Shogun - Lord Toranaga betrayed by his brother Saeki
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When the boy lord swing his sword, I thought "no way it is a clean cut, the show seems to mess it up, but who could ask a child actor to make such a convincing cut". 😅. Of course later the conversation between the adult Toranaga and his most trusted general, Hiromatsu, revealed that the show did not mess it up at all.
Who asks a child to be his second?
@@CrniWukI think it may have been intentional, to embarrass his opponent with his last breath
@@ryanserdan4267I can see if he was a grown man then he botched swings yeah but most of his men would say to the selves he get better.
It took 9 cuts to remove the head, according to the adult Toranaga's conservation.
It's kind of like how Theon Greyjoy beheaded ser rodric with multiple cuts and kicked it off. Very disrespectful and shameful.
Interesting.
9 is a number associated with suffering in Japanese culture, like 4 is associated with death.
All these characters "betraying" Toranaga knew exactly what he was and what his goal was, you really dont get that till the end of the show though. It was really a game of kill or be killed so i really can't look at any of them as "betrayers", they knew what was up. Toranaga was just better at playing the victim as well as playing honorable and that makes all the others look more corrupt and backstabby, that was why they lose in the end.
Would you turn against your brother when he asked for your help?
@@stefan13M given Toranaga was basically planning to use his brother as a back up chess piece I kinda get it. He was trying to play his brother and got played, fair game. I don't really think there were any truly GOOD people vying for power in this show, we saw that at the end when Toranaga was terrorizing Yabu's village after he was the one who burned the boat. Everyone was sacrificing those close to them.
He knew his brother would betray him.. it was all part of the ploy.
The show kept telling us. He was traded as a boy and he learned, enemies are everywhere and Zero friends.
@@stefan13M Depends on the actions of the brother. Just because you are tied to someone by blood doesn't mean you want to be associate with their actions. I wouldn't want someone like Trump or Putin to be kin of mine.
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The samurai taking his dead enemy's head is a fantastic detail. This was a common practice during the time period Shogun takes place. The taking of the head of an opponent you had killed in battle was considered evidence that you had done your duty to your lord. It was also used as a method to record who specifically had been killed in battle. Heads of high ranking samurai with recognizable faces would often be presented to a victorious lord at the end of the battle in a ritualized head viewing ceremony known as "Kubi Jikken".
Its primal
@@LazyIndieGamer and they call the english "barbarians" lmao they the real savages
@@KobeJordanHakeemLooking back in history, there’s plenty of “savagery” everywhere, in every time period. In the time we live in now, we can look at things like this and be rightly horrified. But, don’t think that everyone else’s hands were any cleaner. This was their way of life at the time, and while brutal, I’m sure we can find just as much savagery anywhere else, albeit reflavored for different cultures. Some things are just part of the time period, while others can be seen as terrible atrocities. You can go anywhere from Rwanda, Henry the VIII, and Native American genocide to Hitler in that regard, for example. Bloody hands everywhere.
@@KobeJordanHakeemもちろん野蛮だろう。野蛮でなければ「太陽の沈まぬ国」はできなかった。
@@KobeJordanHakeem
The Romans had their enemies crucified or fed to the lions.
The English drowned or burned "witches".
The American scalped the Natives.
The Aztecs sacrificed both their own people and their captives by ripping out their still beating hearts.
Barbarism and savagery are universal human traits.
So if you're like "[insert specific culture here] are the real savages", you're wrong. Because your people are also real savages.
Saeki was entirely too cheerful and friendly to be trusted right from the start.
Many enemies and zero friends.
I'm sure Toranaga knew this, everything that happened was planned by him and fell all perfectly, he won the war before it even started
ngl saeki is armor and his army looks cool af
Not as cool as Young Toranaga
Thumbnail was the only thing i wanted to see in series.
The entire season he keeps telling us he is surrounded by enemies and no friends. I picked up on that line.
記憶違いかも知れないが昔、ロードショーのテレビ番組で龍の忍者の放映の時、終わりの解説で荻昌弘さんが 真田広之が世界で活躍することことを祈ってます。と言っていた。。 40年以上経ってその通りになった。
Amazing !
遅いし、
日本人俳優としては数が少ない。
使いっ走りだし。
Isn't it his brother In-Law !!
That would make the deception easier to understand
SHAMEFUR DISPRAY
MY LORD! OUR GENERAL HAS FALLEN!
My Lord! Owa men a running from the Batterferird!
TORONAGA-SAMA! YOU PRAY TO FURRIES TOO?
Total War Shogun, I had totally forgotten about that game
Takeda Clan gang rise up
When it comes to sword fights azumi was one of my favorite.
Many Japanese people hold the Bushido spirit close to their hearts
Bushido was not a thing in the sengoku era. The show depicted this accurately, it was eat or be eaten.
False lol
@@blacktree4200 What do you know about Japanese people?
@@user-yd7jy7yr1tmore than u
そんなものはないよ
Watching this show high was a mistake, this scene and the one where Toranagas son slipped and cracked his head open, certainly a shock
Look at those cheek bones, of course Saeki was going to be the bad guy.
The thumbnail would make an excellent painting!
I loved the book, EXCEPT for the name changes. Why did Clavell do that? The history is accurate, everything except the names, yet any student of Japanese history knows them perfectly well..
Ni idea. Se entiende lo de Mariko San porque lo adaptaron de Garasha pero lo demás no tanto.
I could be mistaken, but I swear I heard an elephant in the background; these samurai must have been fought far from Japan?
Shogun is egual to disappointment
So Toranaga was encircled in Edo. How did he escape with his forces?
it doesn't matter 😂😂 he wins no matter what, thats the point
As i understand is, the forces we see are but a garrison( during the meeting with the Teahouse owner, she stated it as such). After Mariko died he fled Edo and joins his main forces gathering elsewhere.
Did you not watch the rest?
@@calebh7902 I did thats why i answered. Its hinted that the troops who were hit by the earthquake arent his main forces and after Marikos death the Lord of Osaka gets a report that Toranaga got away.
@@OkaNieba Yeah... how did he get past the surround forces? Plot armor.
This is very dangerous pls dont do this at home
what is the title of this movie? or is it a TV show? Thank you
Shogun is the title and is a TV show.
We have good news.
"A second season renewal of the limited series is in the works."
tvseriesfinale.com/tv-show/shogun-season-two-renewal-in-the-works-for-fx-drama-hiroyuki-sanada-signed-to-return/
i don't want a second series, the series ended precisely where he needed to end, nothing more nothing less
The novel ends, but the history of Japan is interesting from here on out.The battle at Sekigahara with Ishido, a grand location similar to Game of Thrones, thousands of extras, and a bloody battle scene alone could make a second season. In season 3, the battle of Ochiba (Yodo-dono) who turned around and led Toranaga to victory in the Battle of Sekigahara, and his son fights Toranaga at the impregnable Osaka Castle, the winter camp, the battle of the summer camp, and the novel is written in a foreign country. Although the original author is a human being, starting from season 2, Japanese historians and talented screenwriters selected from Japan will be involved in the production, so the Japanese culture will be doubled.In season 2, Ochiha will be played by Fumika Nikaido, who will be the main character. It will be interesting because he will be the main character along with Hiroyuki Sanada.The Battle of Sekigahara, the Winter Siege, and the Summer Siege will reach the climax in history.
Also, Mariko-sama and Yabushige, who passed away in season 1, will appear in flashback scenes, so they will likely appear in season 2 as well.
Seasons 2 and 3 are likely to have a larger global audience than season 1.
Please consider making a season 2.
Where did you get this info? Are you sure they will be making a season 2? The battle scene would be historic.
Nope no season 2, this is where the novel ends. In ep 10. If there was a s2, they havent started filming yet. So itd be ateast another 5 yrs.
Me when I spread misinformation on the internet
No season 2. The story ended. He already told us what's going to happen. And we already know what his 3rd heart really wants.
@@pogiakolagi1909 what is av3rd heart?
日本製作の時代劇は物語的にも映像的にもトーンの暗い作品て無い印象
日本の場合、痛快娯楽時代劇だから暗い作品はないな。
每次看日本这类古装片就觉得挺有意思的，几个村几百个人打群架，演的像大军阀混战似的。
這部影射日本戰國時代 當時的城鎮已經有相當規模 戰爭一般都以萬人為單位 發留言前做點功課 不難的
這部劇完全沒有戰爭場面，的確有點沒意思
但現實中在這部劇講述即將發生的德川幕府時期前，已經發生萬曆朝鮮戰爭。鬼子30萬大軍越洋入侵朝鮮，明朝10萬官兵支援，為明朝萬曆三大征之一，了解一下
拍摄手法比历害国强也挺有意思的
His little brother, no less.
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