@@k46926472sorry but god no. Last time they changed it, it was a huge mess and certain class were completely useless while others were OP. Maybe small tweaks here and there but that’s about it.
I imagine a long line of champions like Shyvana, Tryndamare, Corki, Malphite, Nocturne and etc, waiting, then Viktor arriving, bribing the security with an Arcane ticket, and leaving them behind
Viktor already had a great lore and a badass design, they even set him up in season 1 of arcane to be the original viktor, all that for him to end up as an unreleased warframe character. His new vgu looks more like an appalachian cryptid or an scp, they done butchered a great character.
You guys are so dumb like it looks 10 times better 😂😂😂But here we are complaining because he lost according to his metallic essence that in fact there are many Champions who are metallic And the community is not happy for nothing.
Do you remember when Victor was a hardworking transhumanist engineer, betrayed by a friend and dumped by him on the social bottom? And he also helped the Zaunites to VOLUNTARILY become better? Nah, now it's a non-canon. Instead, we have Jesus from the anti-void.
@quirkycat again, Its an ASU. The ult change is a minimal change like what they did to Ezreal or Morgana. The next VGU is for Shyvana, and it hasnt been revealed yet.
The "new viktor update" should have been nothing more than a skin.. "Arcane Viktor" its fair they want to update his abilities, thats just the progress of a game, but no need to change him just cuz of a (fantastic) show, that already deviates heavily from current live league. I absolutely loved that he used technology, created blitzcrank (a robot!) and through the battlecast/creator skinline we saw his evolution through other champions. He was essentially the cult of mars from 40K. Now he is just a mage..... Yay... We were really missing the magic castwr type on league... So dissapointing honestly.
He didn't fit league nor his glorious evolution theme at all lmfao. He was just a mad cyborg with a russian accent. And no, he is not a mage. Mages in Runterra are BORN.
@itsgonnabeokay9341 did not fit?! XD He has been in league for over a decade he fits perfectly. And I'm not talking mage in a lore aspect. I'm talking about just being someone with magic
@@itsgonnabeokay9341 he totally fit the game and he's even unique compare to other mages in game.. he use technology powered by magic/hextech than just Every other champions that cast magic.. now he was just one of those generic mages .
Viktor being the Machine Herald is what makes viktor cool asf... I'm gonna miss that version of him tho.. i remember playing him way back before and immediately hooked by his designs
Tbh bro, League lore is written like fan fics. Jayces story has him referred to as a "jerk" multiple times, its just shoddy writing. Viktor has always just been a generic villain. I do prefer the horror aspect of og viktor, but there wasn't really much else there.
@@TheMoon1177 this is a bad rework with a retrospective of the old design, we literally have nothing left from the old character, it was also possible to release this Victor without touching the old one and nothing would have changed. The concept of the characters is completely different, this is now not a person who robotized out of despair for the sake of changing himself, who tried to save including ordinary Zaunians, but a guy whose body consists of arcane, bru, who save all ppl, not only zaunits, bsc his friend are dumb idiot and he are jesus.
@@DarkinWithin I do with he wasn't as naked, but the mask alone is already way cooler IMO. Current Viktor doesn't even look that much like a robot, he looks more like a guy in armor (besides the hand of course)
i really really really prefer just the old victor.. maybe it's just me, and if the majority people enjoy the new victor it's totally fine I'll accept this visual update... but I personally just hate it.
I completely agree with you mate, i don't like his skinny branch stick looks, plus i hope it doesn't transform into another Asol/Smolder incident with stacks, hope it stick with that concept of evolutions but not with Asol amd Smolder problems, i'd say more like Syndra if they're gonna rework him.
@@GranMaj Sorry for the long message -> that's the main problem i had with the show, damn man the show was FKN PERFECT, FOR A NON LEAGUE PLAYER, but for a league player, it's perfect and heart breaking at the same time, I play LoL since 2016, and I grew up with the LoL characters, their badass amazing designs like viktor and Warwick, seeing what they did to them in Arcane really disappointed me and broke my heart despite Arcane being an absolute masterpiece, I loved Arcane, yet I wish they didn't destroy literally 9 years of my "childhood" that got so affected by the essence of League of Legends, whether it be lore, designs, gameplay (even tho I like the little gameplay evolutions, I know it's necessary, but is it necessary completely destroying rewriting the lores and appearances of characters that are already almost perfect ?)
@@moremoneyplease6838 victor never fit his lore anyways. everyone shouldnt change but characters like victor who's personalities, design, and lore dont add up can go.
I was not expecting his look in the Arcane finale to be his base skin I cannot lie it's a little shocking/disappointing... he's no longer the machine herald he's the arcane herald. At least he has like 3 skins that pretty much looked identical to his base already so I'm reaaaally hoping full machine viktor will be transformed to look like his old base skin just updated.
Also I guess Blitzcrank just doesn't have a creator now lol... man the lore team is gonna be working overtime after Arcane. I guess we'll just need to wait and see what the post-arcane dev blog says tomorrow about it all
I saw arcane in Portuguese and Jinx call Viktor "o arrauto das maquinas" (the Machine Herald in portuguese translation) in a conversation with Vi during episode 6. I don't like it too, but Roit will keep the original title, although it looks more like an alien than a machine.
LOL. FREE. LMAO. I think we're slaves for a different company here brother. Best they will probably do is release a skin called "traditional Viktor" and price it as a legendary.
@@RottenHeretic They've released free skins with the reworks before, thousand pierces volibear for example, and traditional skins were free if you already had the pre-rework champion
@@skkadoot9533 That was a bit of time ago. Pre 500$ skin chromas. I don't think they will ever do anything like that, unless for a shit ass skin like the new signed one.
I'm just sad that arcane is "cannon" SPOILER ALERT but, a lot of charaters are now or: Dead, don't exists or simply don't have a lore anymore (or a lore that is now meaning less) like, Blitz, Warwick, Seraphine, Renata Glass, Zac, Twitch, Ziggs, Jinx, Hemierdinger and others are characters that for me is like: "so what now?" Viktor desing was iconic to me and i wanted too see his desing on the series now he just looks like a void creature more than anything else, not someone who build Blitzcrank but he is a Bel'veth follower if you put him side by side with Malzarar, Kai'sa or Kha'zix you can see that they look much more alike, at least in the skin lines he is going to be an actual robot, instead of "magical cured boy" (at least i hope)
heimer is not dead, yordles cant die. warwick is not dead, his regeneration will survive the explosion. he tanked 3 hex gems to the chest, why would 1 be enough, jinx is not dead, they showed an escape vent at the end with cait and she smiled, thats "shes still alive" 101 for writing a story. nothing contradicts twitch. nothing contradicts seraphine. nothing contracticts renata. nothing contradicts zac. nothing contradicts ziggs, he can easily just not be in piltover at the moment.
@@jynxed66six54the touch Viktor gave to every person killed the host, leaving just a hive mind, so yeah, Warwick is also dead, and as they said before, Renata and Seraphine (And Camille, between others) just contradicts with everything Arcane put up so, yeah, if Arcane went off to be an adaptation it would be perfect, but forcing it to be the canon lore when half of the champions that have impact in their regions no longer exists is... Not right. Idk, I'm not pleased with this take but I can't do anything regardless
The thing is, Dota is notoriously hard to push into tier 3 tower, especially in the recent patches. Revive buff/Aegis of immortal is never a guarantee free push or even is an advantage at all. In League however, the gameplay is so heavily snowball centric with little room for comeback, this kinda shit gonna be real pain to fight against.
@@legacian4039 - But... It's still a VGU. Pointing this out is not a 'technicality'. Some VGUs didn't include *much* change in gameplay, only minor ones. Still doesn't mean they aren't VGUs. Besides, BigBadBear said this but said literally nothing about his Q, W and passive or how they will work. There is no point in taking this phrase at face value while you aren't given anything about the kit, no information whatsoever. They can 'modernize' him, or they can't, but knowing Viktor, the value of his overall kit and his past absurd presence - maybe they really don't need to change much if they don't want. Simply, they have to change his passive that is his main problem - and do something with the Q and W that make no sense in current Viktor's thematic. So wait for the kit to be properly talked about, goddamn.
@@samm-sung5104 thats not even true necessarily i been thinking he should stillg o down the machine herald path in arcane later on, if they just made arcane viktor a skin thatd be fine, but making him the entire rework when every recent vgu theyve butchered is not a very hopeful thing.
@elias, hah your right these Viktor fans got basically the same dude personality wise just with different powers and appearance, and us Warwick enjoyers have our boy get turned into a robot after only a single act of semi accurate screen time. Oh yeah then they killed of my boy for no reason. Look how they massacred my boy.
I was holding out hope that the mystery VGU would be orianna, who actually really needs it. Viktor's design was good, and fit the theme of Piltover and Zaun better than Arcane Viktor. Arcane was good, but it still doesn't actually mesh with the existing lore despite Riot's claims that 'everything is canon'. It's not so good that we should overwrite all the other existing lore and character designs. Imagine if they butchered Warwick's design like this?
Honestly Orianna doesn't need a vgu, she only needs a model update, her gameplay is more than fine, only her looks and model are off due to being quite outdated, viktor looks are fine but his gameplay is meh. This is my opinion.
Riot did not claim everything is canon, Arcane is the new canon. It does not mesh with existing lore because it is the replacement, the same goes for any new Arcane-esque shows that they create.
As someone who plays both viktor and orianna, orianna needs an ASU not VGU, viktor's base kit hasn't changed in over 10 years, his Q and E are perfectly fine as the way they are, his R is extremely lackluster could use more speed / bigger animation, but his W is absolutely piss useless garbage only useful 1/25 situations, that ability really needs a change, there has been countless moments where someone is standing in my W for over 3 seconds and they do not get stunned. I quite like it as a zoning tool but it is not a crowd control tool, its really nice for self kiting and I hope that that aspect of it is still there, but it really needs more... oomph. like a ground for the duration that its active turning into a stun after 1.5s.
It's so bad, Viktor's character and lore were really good but they just had to change everything because of arcane. They could have made arcane as "star guardian" universe and not the base lore. Viktor needed gameplay changes, some rework on his W and ult...
@@vlbluu124you are so fucking funny and dumb at the same time Bro you are really complaining about that really so you prefer his trash lore over his Best desig and lore guys pls don't make me laugh this is why this community i so fucking dumb I'm not surprised almost all players of this game really complain about things that sometimes are for the better and what they do is worship their old design with a worse lore worse design that's why this community is stupid.
Those are old designs back from when League's lore was written by the programmers who worked on the gameplay just so there was little something to read. Many champion designs got changed for the better. Like Galio, Skarner, Volibear. Those all look better aesthetically and fit in the lore much more
The old lore + designs weren’t particularly well thought out, so it’s pretty hard to justify leaving Arcane as an alternate universe when it’s so much more well written than the old “canon”.
@@Justanothermusicnerdxo Completely disregarding everything that made Viktor a champion that many enjoyed and fell in love with, to overhaul with Arcane is hard to justify.
I think everyone agreed that his E with still be the same, and also his ultimate. They maybe change the other two skills. Since his ultimate will now get bigger, the W lose his main purpose, so they will possible change. In the show, when Viktor and Jayce are flying inside the tower, Jayce try to hit Viktor with Hammer but Vitkor block with his 3 hand. Maybe this will be the New W, something like a Nocturne W Shields
Oh, Athakan is cool! If he's attacking those that comes into his range, then it seems like a solution to close off one ganking pass, making your lane relatively safer, while leaving the bushes open to a counter-gank from your team to punish a winning lane for a heavy push. Or it places a mark on the bloodiest lane with another objective, provoking a teamfight for his buffs, allowing for either a comeback or an even heavier snowball, depending on which team managed to take advantage from it.
I feel new viktor should have different abilities. At lest his ult because his whole thing at the end of arcane is about controlling people. Would have been neat to see a return of old morde ult where when he takes someone down he uses them as a weapon
@@TheDarkSovereignSyndra there are way more champs that need a vgu before viktor imo. shaco, chogath, nocturne, etc. shouldve gotten one way before a champ like viktor. i still think he needs a visual update, but not as badly as other champs is what im trying to say. i get that its for arcane, but most of the champs from arcane dont look like their league counterparts
@@zashhasautismo6301 his current model is boring and uninspired, I’d rather have magical, tech abomination than standard robot man with no inspiration 🥱 you probably don’t even play viktor my man
Old Viktor was cooler and more grounded. The whole arcane thing was a bit too much and Viktor became a weird deity like beeing. I know his purpose was close to the old one but meh, the new design is ugly, bad proportion on the head and the body looks too thin compared to head and shoulders. And the mask is ugly too.
The map doesn't look changed. The gameplay will be really interesting, but I was expecting a visual change. Ty for the recent consistent leaks they're really exciting so far
Funny how Atakhan design is extremely cool (we need real monster champs, not bel'veth and furry Aurora), we get him as an epic monster, better than nothing o guess.
and next we will get mel as a champion which is super boring and lacklustre when theres so much cooler concepts they could explore i don’t get their champion designs choices going for the most generic and safe shit to appeal to everyone its pretty sad
@@katelawyer3689 yeah and its an ugly ass design completely replacing the og viktor that ppl who played him loved instead of directing it into new champs😭
Not sure they will change him. Some characters are, although not identical to old lore, following it in certain parameters. Old Warwick's lore is probably gonna just apply from a "random man" to "Vander", with him sustaining damages and regening himself slowly losing all of his humanity and becoming full Warwick, leaving the human characteristics from the body behind, since Vander is pretty much fully dead.
@@reefjackson2418 - Can't really say for sure, but it is possible that he will just be losing those parts and regenerating them to have his own body - with no Vander, and with no Viktor. In another note, the Warwick we saw in Arcane, even at the end, had a LOT of skin showing - so it is possible that they can excuse that the evolution traits of his body still exist, but are hidden within his fur. Honestly, i find both plausible and they fit the extreme regeneration of Warwick; considering that even in his LoL design he STILL has a lot of metallic things on him.
"Revive buff" You mean the single most hated part of that one temporary game mode that was so hated people didnt even wanna play and constantly complained about it? You mean the single most hated drake ever added to the Rift that had to be removed because it was so hated? Yeah this shit is NOT lasting. It'll become a different buff after one or two ranked splits.
@geke, don’t be egotistical prick. He’s bloody right, as a person entirely in this fandom for the art, music and lore (which save for one of which, are mistreated constantly by Riot). I would love another demon champion for the lore and art that would come out of it.
I mean, the only similar power between the series and its current gameplay is its laser, its R... it seems fine to me, but I don't see him using his Q or his E anymore, they should do something with his power over those "robots"
I was really hoping that final design wasn’t going to be the ingame one but based off the leaked icon from a few weeks ago it’s basically the same. It’s cool that they completely redesigned him but at the same time.. they completely redesigned him :/ I hope we get a skin from how he looked in s1
Eu jogo esse jogo desde 2013, eu ainda amo jogar um league mas pô eu n tô acreditando que esses caras preferem o antigo do que o novo, pra mim é puro saudosismo mesmo, não faz sentido
I hop that Atakhan is a late game spawn because otherwise it's messed up, hard losing lane will just lose even more and impact even more the game of their mates / that the rose's buffs stay for a limited amount of time
Okay so Asol gets his gameplay entirely revamped but Viktor just gets a bit of fine tuning? I never liked playing Viktor so I thought they replace everything except for his E...
i really though they would change his gameplay to fit his arcane power (like they tried to de with Ekko, Jinx, Vi and Cait) like having some heal, a possibility to cast spells from allies, dead ennemie's body control, those freaky robot mannequin minions...
This is exactly what LoL needed, more changes in the map and changes on the objectives, great that for once they're looking for the game's health
I think they should change the god damn item system.
@@k46926472there's almost nothing wrong with it
@@k46926472like what
@@k46926472sorry but god no. Last time they changed it, it was a huge mess and certain class were completely useless while others were OP. Maybe small tweaks here and there but that’s about it.
@@k46926472Why?
I imagine a long line of champions like Shyvana, Tryndamare, Corki, Malphite, Nocturne and etc, waiting, then Viktor arriving, bribing the security with an Arcane ticket, and leaving them behind
lmao corki maybe 5 yrs later
Malphite is perfect now 🤌
@@viniciuslopesmodena I hope they wont never receive one if they will end up like Viktor
"Step aside, I have a bad bitch pass."
Nobody cares about corki
Gonna miss the mechanical viktor... He's not a machine anymore.. metallic but not machine
obviously victor with an arcane power are much more better and unique
@@iqmal690nah
He is a mix technically.
@@iqmal690 Fuck no it isn't, have you heard of malzahar?
@@iqmal690 Does kinda lose the essence of Viktor though, which is sad.
Viktor already had a great lore and a badass design, they even set him up in season 1 of arcane to be the original viktor, all that for him to end up as an unreleased warframe character. His new vgu looks more like an appalachian cryptid or an scp, they done butchered a great character.
I agree
badass design? xd
@@maurofrias8087yea a doctor doom with cobber steel and a blue cape and a robot hand that help and with a russian type of accent is cool as hell
@@0jote idk, I prefer the messianic body horror look he has in arcane.
@@maurofrias8087 whe have malzahar alredy
Rip Viktor, the Machine Herald. May you find peace together with Alien Aatrox, Dampé Yorick and One Hit goofball Sion.
You guys are so dumb like it looks 10 times better 😂😂😂But here we are complaining because he lost according to his metallic essence that in fact there are many Champions who are metallic And the community is not happy for nothing.
Neutered Asol D:
Bro literally became Adeptus Mechanicus🤣 I hope in this vgu you also can control some of his robot
@@sctovadcarcane tourist
Go be stuck at 2009 looking champions. Change is better 🎉
Do you remember when Victor was a hardworking transhumanist engineer, betrayed by a friend and dumped by him on the social bottom? And he also helped the Zaunites to VOLUNTARILY become better? Nah, now it's a non-canon. Instead, we have Jesus from the anti-void.
I wish he was able to control those robots like he did in arcane. Im just hoping they dont make him another aurelion sol 😂
u trippin
Its not a VGU, buddy
@@MisterPlague Riot themselves have stated that they are changing viktor in his skins and gameplay.. did we watch the same video or what
@@MisterPlague It literally is a vgu, buddy, riot has said that they're working on an arcane vgu, viktor is that vgu, buddy.
@quirkycat again, Its an ASU. The ult change is a minimal change like what they did to Ezreal or Morgana. The next VGU is for Shyvana, and it hasnt been revealed yet.
"Revive buff" oh boy, how this takes me back to the days of good old Chemtech Drake......
I mean it is temporary (plus they were comparing it to a GA, so I assume the revive will take some time to actually come through)
It wasn't that long ago nor was it good lmao
@@yeah-yeah2249 someone doesnt know humor
@@T3nDen humor is hard to convey through text
The "new viktor update" should have been nothing more than a skin.. "Arcane Viktor" its fair they want to update his abilities, thats just the progress of a game, but no need to change him just cuz of a (fantastic) show, that already deviates heavily from current live league.
I absolutely loved that he used technology, created blitzcrank (a robot!) and through the battlecast/creator skinline we saw his evolution through other champions. He was essentially the cult of mars from 40K.
Now he is just a mage..... Yay... We were really missing the magic castwr type on league... So dissapointing honestly.
He didn't fit league nor his glorious evolution theme at all lmfao. He was just a mad cyborg with a russian accent. And no, he is not a mage. Mages in Runterra are BORN.
@itsgonnabeokay9341 did not fit?! XD
He has been in league for over a decade he fits perfectly.
And I'm not talking mage in a lore aspect. I'm talking about just being someone with magic
@@itsgonnabeokay9341
Exactly!!
@@itsgonnabeokay9341 he totally fit the game and he's even unique compare to other mages in game.. he use technology powered by magic/hextech than just Every other champions that cast magic.. now he was just one of those generic mages .
Viktor being the Machine Herald is what makes viktor cool asf... I'm gonna miss that version of him tho.. i remember playing him way back before and immediately hooked by his designs
Are you like 13?
@@itsgonnabeokay9341why you so mmad
@@itsgonnabeokay9341 you sound like you ARE 13 lol
Tbh bro, League lore is written like fan fics. Jayces story has him referred to as a "jerk" multiple times, its just shoddy writing. Viktor has always just been a generic villain. I do prefer the horror aspect of og viktor, but there wasn't really much else there.
@hrodvithit body horror viktor still isnt capturing the essence of its epithet
I hope they dont fuck up the battlecast(creator) skin
Too bad they fucked up his base
His base is sick ASF, much better than old Viktor@@pocketedition2.084
@@pocketedition2.084 really? i didnt think it was that bad
@@pocketedition2.084 looks fine, dunno why it's so blue tho
@@TheMoon1177 this is a bad rework with a retrospective of the old design, we literally have nothing left from the old character, it was also possible to release this Victor without touching the old one and nothing would have changed. The concept of the characters is completely different, this is now not a person who robotized out of despair for the sake of changing himself, who tried to save including ordinary Zaunians, but a guy whose body consists of arcane, bru, who save all ppl, not only zaunits, bsc his friend are dumb idiot and he are jesus.
Not really a fan of how exposed his face in the death sworn skin is. Hope that will change in the final version
From cool robot to twink mage...
I wouldn't call him cool but you do you
@Yoshyguy21 I think the machine aesthetic was better than this.
@@DarkinWithin I do with he wasn't as naked, but the mask alone is already way cooler IMO. Current Viktor doesn't even look that much like a robot, he looks more like a guy in armor (besides the hand of course)
@@Yoshyguy21Viktor was never robot but cyborg
i really really really prefer just the old victor.. maybe it's just me, and if the majority people enjoy the new victor it's totally fine I'll accept this visual update... but I personally just hate it.
I completely agree with you mate, i don't like his skinny branch stick looks, plus i hope it doesn't transform into another Asol/Smolder incident with stacks, hope it stick with that concept of evolutions but not with Asol amd Smolder problems, i'd say more like Syndra if they're gonna rework him.
And the amount of Lore mangling thay lead to these rework is honestly not worth it. Some champion's lore will just simply erased thanks to Arcane.
@@GranMaj Sorry for the long message ->
that's the main problem i had with the show, damn man the show was FKN PERFECT, FOR A NON LEAGUE PLAYER, but for a league player, it's perfect and heart breaking at the same time, I play LoL since 2016, and I grew up with the LoL characters, their badass amazing designs like viktor and Warwick, seeing what they did to them in Arcane really disappointed me and broke my heart despite Arcane being an absolute masterpiece, I loved Arcane, yet I wish they didn't destroy literally 9 years of my "childhood" that got so affected by the essence of League of Legends, whether it be lore, designs, gameplay (even tho I like the little gameplay evolutions, I know it's necessary, but is it necessary completely destroying rewriting the lores and appearances of characters that are already almost perfect ?)
His Arcane design is okay BUT HIS LEAGUE DESIGN IS JUST SO ISHWHVEJWWH
WHY ARE THEY DOING THIS???????
@@moremoneyplease6838 victor never fit his lore anyways. everyone shouldnt change but characters like victor who's personalities, design, and lore dont add up can go.
They don't learn, some revive mechanics they put in are too op and they end up removing them, and this will have the same destiny.
Akshan rezes like 20 ppl per game and the game still goes on, it’ll be fine
Chemtech Soul
I was not expecting his look in the Arcane finale to be his base skin I cannot lie it's a little shocking/disappointing... he's no longer the machine herald he's the arcane herald. At least he has like 3 skins that pretty much looked identical to his base already so I'm reaaaally hoping full machine viktor will be transformed to look like his old base skin just updated.
Also I guess Blitzcrank just doesn't have a creator now lol... man the lore team is gonna be working overtime after Arcane. I guess we'll just need to wait and see what the post-arcane dev blog says tomorrow about it all
You for real? He literally controlled hundreds, thousands of robots. Tf you mean "he's no longer the machine herald"???
@@YourEmperorStef What robots? Those are magical puppets, show even called them "inspired by angels". There's nothing machine about him
I saw arcane in Portuguese and Jinx call Viktor "o arrauto das maquinas" (the Machine Herald in portuguese translation) in a conversation with Vi during episode 6. I don't like it too, but Roit will keep the original title, although it looks more like an alien than a machine.
@@ikleyvey my guy... they're metal puppets.. they're practically robots, he's just controlling them.
Makes me wonder what a Targon themed season would be like. Could fight Invilous Vox
Capture the point objective 'climbing mount targon' it'd be cool (if pulled off well)
ngl i prefer the old viktor, i hope we get somesort of (free) Skin that is more like his current design
LOL. FREE. LMAO. I think we're slaves for a different company here brother. Best they will probably do is release a skin called "traditional Viktor" and price it as a legendary.
yeah we prob will like with GP
@@RottenHeretic They've released free skins with the reworks before, thousand pierces volibear for example, and traditional skins were free if you already had the pre-rework champion
@@skkadoot9533 That was a bit of time ago. Pre 500$ skin chromas. I don't think they will ever do anything like that, unless for a shit ass skin like the new signed one.
@@RottenHeretic that skin just sounds like prototype viktor
So the whole story around my boy Viktor being a machine is basically killed, that sucks..
the worst way to remake cyborg that shooting field laser and electronic boomerang while put on badass steel mask
New Viktor design fucking sucks, current one is already perfect. God i hate Riot so much
Then quit league content, because you continue to be disappointed
@Ntwinzz 🪢
He kinda looks too blue? like a weird aphelios
I'm just sad that arcane is "cannon" SPOILER ALERT but, a lot of charaters are now or: Dead, don't exists or simply don't have a lore anymore (or a lore that is now meaning less) like, Blitz, Warwick, Seraphine, Renata Glass, Zac, Twitch, Ziggs, Jinx, Hemierdinger and others are characters that for me is like: "so what now?" Viktor desing was iconic to me and i wanted too see his desing on the series now he just looks like a void creature more than anything else, not someone who build Blitzcrank but he is a Bel'veth follower if you put him side by side with Malzarar, Kai'sa or Kha'zix you can see that they look much more alike, at least in the skin lines he is going to be an actual robot, instead of "magical cured boy" (at least i hope)
heimer is not dead, yordles cant die.
warwick is not dead, his regeneration will survive the explosion. he tanked 3 hex gems to the chest, why would 1 be enough,
jinx is not dead, they showed an escape vent at the end with cait and she smiled, thats "shes still alive" 101 for writing a story.
nothing contradicts twitch.
nothing contradicts seraphine.
nothing contracticts renata.
nothing contradicts zac.
nothing contradicts ziggs, he can easily just not be in piltover at the moment.
@@jynxed66six54renatas lore is conflicted with all arcane lol.
@jynxed66six54 seraphine lore contradicts arcane
Totally agree w u
@@jynxed66six54the touch Viktor gave to every person killed the host, leaving just a hive mind, so yeah, Warwick is also dead, and as they said before, Renata and Seraphine (And Camille, between others) just contradicts with everything Arcane put up so, yeah, if Arcane went off to be an adaptation it would be perfect, but forcing it to be the canon lore when half of the champions that have impact in their regions no longer exists is... Not right. Idk, I'm not pleased with this take but I can't do anything regardless
I like how riot diverted from "you need to be a machine to be soulless " to "you need to be a god to be soulless"
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Welcome back, Rohsan from Dota 2
Baron was actually meant to be League's Roshan. (Read the name backwards)
@@Javano_ If you at least put the "Nashor" for him.
@@Javano_ gosh i love norab
The thing is, Dota is notoriously hard to push into tier 3 tower, especially in the recent patches. Revive buff/Aegis of immortal is never a guarantee free push or even is an advantage at all.
In League however, the gameplay is so heavily snowball centric with little room for comeback, this kinda shit gonna be real pain to fight against.
Roshan gives an item called Aegis of the Immortal and it revives the user also Atakhan is more similar to Roshan than Baron
what have they done to viktor ? LMAO
"Viktor's kit will be mostly unchanged."
Ah... Okay. So this was a midscope ASU, not a VGU.
(it's still a VGU)
@nathanmello4407 your technicality doesn't magically make it better. He needed a modernized kit.
@@legacian4039 - But... It's still a VGU. Pointing this out is not a 'technicality'.
Some VGUs didn't include *much* change in gameplay, only minor ones. Still doesn't mean they aren't VGUs.
Besides, BigBadBear said this but said literally nothing about his Q, W and passive or how they will work. There is no point in taking this phrase at face value while you aren't given anything about the kit, no information whatsoever.
They can 'modernize' him, or they can't, but knowing Viktor, the value of his overall kit and his past absurd presence - maybe they really don't need to change much if they don't want. Simply, they have to change his passive that is his main problem - and do something with the Q and W that make no sense in current Viktor's thematic.
So wait for the kit to be properly talked about, goddamn.
@@nathanmello4407 well forgive me if I'm wary considering Riot's extremely bad track record with midscope updates.
Unfortunate, base viktor is much better imo, Culty viktor is kinda lame for endgame story. And they couldve just had arcane as a skin
the problem with making the rework into a skin is that base viktor wouldn't be canon anymore
@@samm-sung5104 thats not even true necessarily i been thinking he should stillg o down the machine herald path in arcane later on, if they just made arcane viktor a skin thatd be fine, but making him the entire rework when every recent vgu theyve butchered is not a very hopeful thing.
@@samm-sung5104>base champion wouldn't be canon anymore
You mean like Warwick?
@elias, hah your right these Viktor fans got basically the same dude personality wise just with different powers and appearance, and us Warwick enjoyers have our boy get turned into a robot after only a single act of semi accurate screen time. Oh yeah then they killed of my boy for no reason. Look how they massacred my boy.
@@katelawyer3689 Viktor is nothing like he normally is lmao
This is not my Viktor
That reminded me of Paladins
Cry more about the old viktor that has a bad lore than the new one you guys are too funny about that
Relatable man
You have syndra as your profile pic why you acting like you're a viktor main.
@ new league of legends player doesn’t understand anything and only cares about le epic Reddit arcane
I was holding out hope that the mystery VGU would be orianna, who actually really needs it. Viktor's design was good, and fit the theme of Piltover and Zaun better than Arcane Viktor. Arcane was good, but it still doesn't actually mesh with the existing lore despite Riot's claims that 'everything is canon'. It's not so good that we should overwrite all the other existing lore and character designs. Imagine if they butchered Warwick's design like this?
Honestly Orianna doesn't need a vgu, she only needs a model update, her gameplay is more than fine, only her looks and model are off due to being quite outdated, viktor looks are fine but his gameplay is meh.
This is my opinion.
Even Caitlyn, they are removing her hat and also her eyes.. reallt not happy with Riot retconning Arcane as main lore
Riot did not claim everything is canon, Arcane is the new canon. It does not mesh with existing lore because it is the replacement, the same goes for any new Arcane-esque shows that they create.
As someone who plays both viktor and orianna, orianna needs an ASU not VGU, viktor's base kit hasn't changed in over 10 years, his Q and E are perfectly fine as the way they are, his R is extremely lackluster could use more speed / bigger animation, but his W is absolutely piss useless garbage only useful 1/25 situations, that ability really needs a change, there has been countless moments where someone is standing in my W for over 3 seconds and they do not get stunned. I quite like it as a zoning tool but it is not a crowd control tool, its really nice for self kiting and I hope that that aspect of it is still there, but it really needs more... oomph. like a ground for the duration that its active turning into a stun after 1.5s.
@@chymous Um..yes his base kit has changed, mutiple times. Bro has had his passive reworked like 5 times lol
you’re my favorite person to watch for updates. Quick, yet informative! Love your vids!
I'm not too fan of Viktor changes...
It's so bad, Viktor's character and lore were really good but they just had to change everything because of arcane. They could have made arcane as "star guardian" universe and not the base lore.
Viktor needed gameplay changes, some rework on his W and ult...
Same
@@vlbluu124you are so fucking funny and dumb at the same time Bro you are really complaining about that really so you prefer his trash lore over his Best desig and lore guys pls don't make me laugh this is why this community i so fucking dumb I'm not surprised almost all players of this game really complain about things that sometimes are for the better and what they do is worship their old design with a worse lore worse design that's why this community is stupid.
@@vlbluu124 Viktor's old lore was not good why are people pretending like it was
@@Yoshyguy21he is way cooler than whatever ugly ass arcane design we got🤣
I like old base actually. But i want arcane human form skin.
cool that entire champion design goes under the bus because they made an "adaptation" that discregards entire canon.
It ain't the first time. Probably won't be the last. It's their game I guess, they can do to it's world whatever they desire.
Those are old designs back from when League's lore was written by the programmers who worked on the gameplay just so there was little something to read. Many champion designs got changed for the better. Like Galio, Skarner, Volibear. Those all look better aesthetically and fit in the lore much more
The old lore + designs weren’t particularly well thought out, so it’s pretty hard to justify leaving Arcane as an alternate universe when it’s so much more well written than the old “canon”.
@@Justanothermusicnerdxo Completely disregarding everything that made Viktor a champion that many enjoyed and fell in love with, to overhaul with Arcane is hard to justify.
Making arcane canon was one of the dumbest things ever done by riot and that's a hill I'll die on
man this is sad
I think everyone agreed that his E with still be the same, and also his ultimate. They maybe change the other two skills. Since his ultimate will now get bigger, the W lose his main purpose, so they will possible change. In the show, when Viktor and Jayce are flying inside the tower, Jayce try to hit Viktor with Hammer but Vitkor block with his 3 hand. Maybe this will be the New W, something like a Nocturne W Shields
Prob not his q. He used it in his entrance to jayce to punch a whole to the door before lasering it. It still has the two parts to it.
@@clementchung919might get a 3rd upgrade depending on level 😮
I like his Q
I hope his stun will be a herald robots just like in arcane or like Yorick's wall
What time is the dev vlog starting?
Oh, Athakan is cool! If he's attacking those that comes into his range, then it seems like a solution to close off one ganking pass, making your lane relatively safer, while leaving the bushes open to a counter-gank from your team to punish a winning lane for a heavy push. Or it places a mark on the bloodiest lane with another objective, provoking a teamfight for his buffs, allowing for either a comeback or an even heavier snowball, depending on which team managed to take advantage from it.
I feel new viktor should have different abilities. At lest his ult because his whole thing at the end of arcane is about controlling people. Would have been neat to see a return of old morde ult where when he takes someone down he uses them as a weapon
I don't want them to change Viktor. He should have come as a costume. I'll miss you Viktor.
Yah no, he’s crusty and dusty and desperately needs this
@@TheDarkSovereignSyndra he does need a vgu, just not this one...
@@TheDarkSovereignSyndra there are way more champs that need a vgu before viktor imo. shaco, chogath, nocturne, etc. shouldve gotten one way before a champ like viktor. i still think he needs a visual update, but not as badly as other champs is what im trying to say. i get that its for arcane, but most of the champs from arcane dont look like their league counterparts
fr, the best and badass Viktor
@@zashhasautismo6301 his current model is boring and uninspired, I’d rather have magical, tech abomination than standard robot man with no inspiration 🥱 you probably don’t even play viktor my man
Soooooooooooooo old chemtech drake DID find a way to come back...
Old Viktor was cooler and more grounded. The whole arcane thing was a bit too much and Viktor became a weird deity like beeing. I know his purpose was close to the old one but meh, the new design is ugly, bad proportion on the head and the body looks too thin compared to head and shoulders. And the mask is ugly too.
The mask is ugly? It's so damn cool though, like the sides of his mask are literally his human face split in half
@ you can’t see these details in game, it just looks like an ugly mask with a weird shape not like Jhin’s.
The map doesn't look changed. The gameplay will be really interesting, but I was expecting a visual change. Ty for the recent consistent leaks they're really exciting so far
Funny how Atakhan design is extremely cool (we need real monster champs, not bel'veth and furry Aurora), we get him as an epic monster, better than nothing o guess.
and next we will get mel as a champion which is super boring and lacklustre when theres so much cooler concepts they could explore i don’t get their champion designs choices going for the most generic and safe shit to appeal to everyone its pretty sad
Funny you say that @heart because I would say the new Viktor is anything but safe from a design perspective.
@@katelawyer3689 yeah and its an ugly ass design completely replacing the og viktor that ppl who played him loved instead of directing it into new champs😭
Oh boy you would think they learned from Chemtech Soul revive mechanic…
riot better not do a number on my boy warwick
true af wander ww ugly
Not sure they will change him. Some characters are, although not identical to old lore, following it in certain parameters.
Old Warwick's lore is probably gonna just apply from a "random man" to "Vander", with him sustaining damages and regening himself slowly losing all of his humanity and becoming full Warwick, leaving the human characteristics from the body behind, since Vander is pretty much fully dead.
@@nathanmello4407 How does that account for all the 'evolution' bullshit he has on him though.
@@reefjackson2418 - Can't really say for sure, but it is possible that he will just be losing those parts and regenerating them to have his own body - with no Vander, and with no Viktor.
In another note, the Warwick we saw in Arcane, even at the end, had a LOT of skin showing - so it is possible that they can excuse that the evolution traits of his body still exist, but are hidden within his fur.
Honestly, i find both plausible and they fit the extreme regeneration of Warwick; considering that even in his LoL design he STILL has a lot of metallic things on him.
Finally dynamic summoners'rift that will change depending on the current lore happenings i love it
So my boy viktor isnt a machine anymore but a lame eboy , so sad
Geez, Arcane Vik sucks. I love our Adeptus Mechanicus guy
"Revive buff"
You mean the single most hated part of that one temporary game mode that was so hated people didnt even wanna play and constantly complained about it?
You mean the single most hated drake ever added to the Rift that had to be removed because it was so hated?
Yeah this shit is NOT lasting. It'll become a different buff after one or two ranked splits.
I just wish Riot would release another demon champion......
I looove overused generic tropes *Batchest*
@geke, don’t be egotistical prick. He’s bloody right, as a person entirely in this fandom for the art, music and lore (which save for one of which, are mistreated constantly by Riot). I would love another demon champion for the lore and art that would come out of it.
We've come full circle
Roshan is now in League
Holy shit its Atakhan. I actually wanted him in game, love this card
It gives hope, that other cards will maybe be added into the game.
@@BlasphemyNightmare hes a LOR Card? nice
If Riot does not change the W....
I mean, the only similar power between the series and its current gameplay is its laser, its R... it seems fine to me, but I don't see him using his Q or his E anymore, they should do something with his power over those "robots"
Hold up, I’ve only just realized that we got a surprise VGU for Viktor before we got the actual VGU for Shyvana
Damn death sworn Viktor looks very weird
They could make Viktor an inversion of Volibear: base skin is arcane, but you get another one that's the old (in game) version
Viktor got aatrox'd, rip.
I'm gonna miss Viktor even though almost nobody played him he will never be the same for me again
I was really hoping that final design wasn’t going to be the ingame one but based off the leaked icon from a few weeks ago it’s basically the same. It’s cool that they completely redesigned him but at the same time.. they completely redesigned him :/
I hope we get a skin from how he looked in s1
Já tô arrependido de ter desencantado a skin do Viktor Jurado de Morte no Hextech 😭
look at the champions fighting the monster. remember how we got a "void" inspired map this season? WE'RE GETTING NOXUS SEASON!
Now all we need is Vilewmaw on the map once more, and more dragons
no one talking about how they used Demacia and Noxus for this? this is basically confirming what's the next series gonna be
wow this is a really good tease for the next series in noxus specially the concept of the black rose and their demons
It's much game changer. For 3 minutes you have immunity and the team ho win, will just take huge risk to grow without any consequence
Eu jogo esse jogo desde 2013, eu ainda amo jogar um league mas pô eu n tô acreditando que esses caras preferem o antigo do que o novo, pra mim é puro saudosismo mesmo, não faz sentido
They better not take away his mask in the skins, not a big fan of the new design as is
oh shut up dude
@MyobiMarishka no? Lol
I hope they completely change his kit just like Skarner with some of his old one being improved
WHAT HAPPENED TO FUNCTIONALITY OVER FORM‽
Didnt viktor create Blitzcrank?
Atakhan looks like Yorick's ghost maiden till to his animations
don't tell me viktor is gonna have a face now in game... very sad
what they done with my Viktor Death Sworn 😭😭
So I have been wodering, is it Leblanc using Atakhans power in Arcane?
So viktor will be like kayle? Changing form through out the game?
That really confirms that Noxus will be the next region next to PnZ.
Oh my God, what did they do to Viktor 😭
Another objectives and its freaking cool , so I guess the gameplay itself will become much more bloodier or should I say becomes chaotic .
Is atakhan in ranked aswell ? Or is it only fun mode ?
now when im suffering top and see enemy draven & pyke are 20/0 i can have peace knowing they will get a free objective
I hop that Atakhan is a late game spawn because otherwise it's messed up, hard losing lane will just lose even more and impact even more the game of their mates / that the rose's buffs stay for a limited amount of time
Spawns at 20 minutes, they're gonna make Baron spawn later
Something new about mel medarda? :)
Okay so Asol gets his gameplay entirely revamped but Viktor just gets a bit of fine tuning?
I never liked playing Viktor so I thought they replace everything except for his E...
i was actually hoping for a diff gameplay, if thats staying the same then the different visual wont be enough to make me actually want to play him
I agree, I don’t mind playing viktor but I’d rather play any other mage that can do his job but better
Man i want robot viktor back
Any1 else noticed weird yellow circle on viktor after he is hitting q?
ye they fucked up shield display somehow lol, noticed it in my last games
So is Atakhan a boss who shows up in the Rift or...? I feel like I missed a step
It''s a new epic monster like the dragons or the baron
watch his previous vid
Yes, for next year's Noxus themed first split. I think it appears at 20 minutes near the lane with the most kills/damage. Baron spawns later.
Me wanna see MEL gameplay!
Thanks Mr Bear
Será que essas novidades também chegam no Wild Rift?
i really though they would change his gameplay to fit his arcane power (like they tried to de with Ekko, Jinx, Vi and Cait)
like having some heal, a possibility to cast spells from allies, dead ennemie's body control, those freaky robot mannequin minions...
i mean we've only seen his ult, calm down and wait.
LETS GOOOOO RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH🦅🦅🔥🔥🔥
Do you know anything else about viktor bear?
So.. what's the point of rework if his abilities will be unchanged? He's a very unpopular champ atm this does not seem like the greatest call
What about new mythic shop rotation
They killed the original Viktor...this is a glorified Xerath. He is not "I reject my humanity Jojo!" Mechanical Emperor anymore.
blodier matches has to be every single game on eune, I havent played game with under 40 kills at 20 minutes
botlane about to become atakhans faveourite spot
@@MonodySeraphine legit, those dumb botlaners on first wave either trade all sums and die or just trade all sums and die on next wave.
@@GotwaldTheFifth Solution:Jungle Diff
Atakhan? Where did I see him... I feel like I've seen him years ago... Is it from LoR?