Revenge counter cost 2 blast stocks. It should reset neutral. And it should be powerful. Why does super counter and perception have a better risk/ reward with less cost. If revenge counter becomes to big of an issue make it cost 3 blast stocks in the next update
Ngl don the Revenge counter take is HIGHKEY an L take Revenge counter is suppose to be a get off me move but pre-patch it was TERRIBLE. You were basically spending 2 stocks to reset the enemy's combo lol But now you get out of a combo and resets neutral, which is perfect
Ngl, the revenge counter change is a great one. You gotta remember, prepatch there was no reason to use it unless your opponent had low health and you needed to close out the round. It cost 2 points, its slow, predictable, sidestepable, you can percept it, super counter it, and it triggers wildsense and afterimage. And even if it used to connect, the opponent can just mash and get their turn back anyway. Now it pushes you further back to reset neutral and give the defender breathing room. Now its a very high risk/ high reward maneuver, whereas before it was very high risk/ minimal reward.
Im okay with it being a bit faster since you are sacrificing skill points and before it seems like a hail mary. But what i dont like is that they restricted a bunch of other moves and get arounds that didnt need to be removed. One was the side that. You cant no longer move out of the way or dash around in alot of situations JUST so that the revenge coubter works thats completely stupid. Thats like rewarding lazy players and punishing people who learn many ways to get around. I press 10 diffrent buttons to move around and start my game and you can just press circle or r3 and you can just lazy through the game. Feels super stiff , half of my playstyle is gone with this patch and now its very predictable game play. Half ass combo, get person on ground blast perception rinse and repeat. It s getting more boring . I used to never have to use perception now the game seems imposible without it. It s ridiculous
Revenge counter is probably the best buff currently, you’ll see way less vanish wars and it makes it less about ki management at high lvl but more about hands and neutral.
You aren't cooking with the revenge counter point, it's a reset tool that can't be used from behind, making it actually useful and it costs 2 skill points, so there's a cost to use it, neither you or your opponent is at an inherent advantage, it's serving it's intended purpose as a defensive option that actually isn't overtuned. Also, Idk why we acting like they can't make shit up with new characters, these were the same guys that made ssj3 vegeta, so a teen goten and trunks can be done. I want 21 and super 17 if i'm being honest though.
I never used revenge counter before the patch because it was garbage. You shouldn’t be able to continue hitting someone after performing a counter ESPECIALLY when it cost 2 skill stocks to use, you can’t with perception or super counter so it never made sense for revenge counter. Resetting to neutral is how it should work these changes are great
revenge counter seems fine to me now cuz before once u did it ur opponent could just continue their combo like nothing happened😭 the dude just caught u off guard with the side step
If there’s wasn’t a lot of blind hate and delusional outtake’s about this game. Actual criticism of this game could be heard and taken seriously more. This community is mixed up.
I hope zoning with ki blasts gets touched next patch. Zoning doesn't take any skill. What is considered "controlling tempo" with zoning in Sparking would literally qualify for stalling in any other arena fighter/fighter. Which is why if you lose to zoning in this game it really isn't a skill issue cause it takes no skill in the first place and it's counter is equally unskillful. Think about it, your hp stays static, your stock goes up, your opponent just has to deflect it which takes no skill/block if it's charged. There's no true progression on the game state. It's literally stalling, unless you're trying to chip someone out it fits the definition of stalling.
I hit Z Rank yesterday and I’m 41th best SH ultimate gohan in the world rn. But I’m retiring until I hit z on my alt account before I start to try to crazy and hit the leader boards with him. We need to run the ones frfr gang!
Thanks for talking about the game itself and not just pvp issues. Quality of life is the most important thing for this game because it’s dragon ball. We all wanna be drippy and get the best maps. I play custom story’s and make my story’s. Using the same map is boring. The new dlc characters gonna hold us of for a good couple weeks then it’s back to the norm.
I think their too many defensive options in the game and not enough offensive options they need to make z burst dash 1 ki bar again to counter these things i spend to much ki just trying to engage opponents
The game needs more outfits , customizable colors for every character like xeno has obviously needs maps and definitely needs way more game modes some more casuals ones that friends can play together + the assault vanish glitch and sparking mode still has no ki sickness
Another perspective on revenge counters can be that if you had to choose between super counter spam and revenge counter Id probably choose revenge counter. Revenge counter actually reset neutral now so if you were beaten their ass in neutral you just have to do it again and they're down 2 skill points. They needed something more beginner friendly for people to use as a combo breaker that wasn't super counter spam. I believe super countering should be a reward for actually learning the game timings and animations in different match ups. Most of the people probably do not know revenge counter was shadow fixed so they feel they lost a way to get out of combos. Love ya vids Don keep it up.
I know they don't want to add any characters that haven't been showcased in the anime, but I don't quite understand why? I know folks are feening for Ultra Ego Vegeta more than any other character. On top of him, some desired characters are Granolah, Moro and Gas. I can understand why they haven't added Black Frieza in particular since we haven't seen him fight literally at all.
The revenge counter was straight trash B4 this patch. I think the problem with the revenge counter is that what is the main purpose of even using it? It costs 1 skill point to counter the revenge counter that takes 2 skill point that's trash. As far as the dlc I'm been peeping the laziness..no maps, Gohan(SH) is just a re-skin with the same moves as everybody else. Gohan and Piccolo has the same ultimate blast same animations. As far as this game lasting beyond this year they need to add characters that are missing, maps, and do sumthing about the repetitive combat system. Just vanishes,super counter, and throwing hands gets straight bored. As far as Perception if you're still having issues it's not the mechanic it's you at the point. I find that side stepping is just plain ridiculous in my opinion there's way too much invisibility frames.
Nah saying they actin lazy on this game is crazy gang ngl, you can clearly see the effort, they can’t just release everyting in the span of 3 months😭 you gotta give them time to release more dlcs with maps outfits and shit
I can understand and agree the vanishing battles that was an excelent change imo but the w the revenge counter mechanic change they made so many other moves obsolete. I used to be able to re start the combo on a revenge counter and i cant do that anymore. My whole style has to change yet again because they ... What the hell are they doing over at Bandai. Im big on movement as a playstyle but it gets more and more stiff. A plus on this patch is the camera when you are below the enemy now allows you to look up whereas before you were blind. And although i had moves that explited that, im okay with that change.
Sparking Zero Haters when you can't play as Background Character #3 from some filler arc or a random red ribbon soldier that was in the movie for 5 minutes. We should strive for characters that actually can add to the game, padding DLC is a Xenoverse strat. The DLC just started and the game preformed beyond expectations, we just have to play the waiting game. Probably the Daima DLC holds the cool stuff since it's brand new.
For me it's not even the characters it's the lack of damn maps we have because we have so many different movie characters but not their respective maps? Shit makes no damn sense
@ or customization. 18 has 5 outfits. Vegeta has like 3 of the exact same outfit. But so many are missing. Trunks from bojack, krillin and tien from buu saga, a ton for gohan, end of z goku. And they should make a skinny buu skin for fat buu. Also it would funny if they made an alternate “fusion” for mighty mask or just make it a costume for gotenks
bruh yes the perception input should be punishable by a major extant no cap its perception for cryi8ng out lout and players just be holding that button and block mixed with ki spam or what the fuck ever like bruh why absolutly why the fuck is it possible to spam 3 to 5 inputs and still be at advantage when you do it anytime not a specific time fucking anytime it happens.
I think if they added being able to change supers this game would be wayyyyyy better i forget which game you could tenchaichi 3 maybe? Or budokai 3 idk but i want that shit even skills . Like change either 1 skill or 1 super. 🔥🔥
RC puts yall in neutral bruh that was highly necessary when it’s supposed to be a combo breaker…but if it’s a quiet nerf im not really messing with is how mon flyers fall way too fast now. They’re annoying to fight against and feels weird to use unless you’re near the ground, they tried to go too hard on “character accuracy” when this whole game makes no sense on accuracy since the release
i think perception is in a good place its just when you side step it it shouldnt work like when your beside them or even sometimes when your behind them it still triggers. im sure it needs a little more tweaking but its alot more manageable now. also no one talks about this but the tracking on the perfect smash is ass. that was a go to for me in tenkaichi series but in this game it hits like 20 percent of them time maybe even less. it needs to track like vanishing assault does. also that vanishing assault glitch needs to be fixed. some of these bums abuse that. but aside from that the game is feeling alot better.
Idk bro, perception being slower is noticeable, im punishing it so much easier now. I agree on your take of revenge counter. But this patch is a W! Im enjoying SH gohan and turning into ultimate. They should definitely put GT Vegeta! I hated GT but id play Vegeta if he has ssj1 and 2 and probably add ssj4 to him and not have him as a seperate character
11:00 cost issue, but more importantly, 202X AAA games are not held at 200X standards. Smaller, more time crunched teams of devs. Pay for them's plateauing, plateauing the company, and vice versa. Laziness(devs and management). Emphasis to churn out, lets be fair, BETA games to be 'patched'(dlc[more money]) in it's unoptimized state that more than likely will never be correctly updated/upgraded.
Revenge counter is more so what perception should be. Perception don’t even need to be in the game. Would be cool to have some other offensive option. Maybe a Z dash thing to make it more applicable.
I feel like goten and trunks will drop after this new series about them drops, at least I hope so We Need teen goten!!! Hope they do him justice he’s Goku’s son! 🫡😭😂
It feels like you grind and they patch and then you have to relearn the whole f-ing game. They changed , when you up triangle kick an opponent and then jump, you are stuck in that jump as opposed to before you could chose what to do , if you want to follow that combo or step away and do something else. And i feel like that got rid of that just to make the revenge counter fit everywhere. I hate it how they are making the game so stiff.
They made it seem like they would update it way more consistently than this. When you compare its content to other db games, theres not alot of quality if life modes. Dev team gotta make some staff upgrades fr
When the anime starts to implement the movie, they 100% will incorporate super hero trunks and super hero goten , who will definitely have their own unique moves … that’s what people mean by they should of added trunks and goten, and yes , they should off … I agree with yoh gt points though
Yo, how you feeling that SS4 Goku? I think he might be the best 3 bar character in the game now, either him or ultimate Gohan. SS4 Goku was already amazing, and they gave a huge buff to my boy 😂
I doubt they would buff an "amazing" character. His pick rate must have been very low, and his 5 seconds ability must have had incredibly low usage among players.
They probably wanted another way out of backshots since most people that play this are casual and would complain that they cant get super counters. Even tho they usually spammin
Yeah you have to predict when they're gonna do it. If you predict correctly your most likely get them. The only problem i have is when they're lagging then you'll miss it.
You tweaking fr with this one. Just a couple months ago y'all were hollering about how broken the game was. They took their 3 months to fix it up now mfs want costumes and maps. Either get content or get patches cant have both especially when the decision was made before release Releasing the game in oct altered how this game's life was gonna go. I promise you this was a 2025 march release. Maiden squad would've got base forms, super 17 and eis/nuova would've got in but they aint. You would've had more maps too but you don't. That right there is how dev cycles work, so before you gas mods understand this The team aint want it to end like this either but this is the reality of developing. Before you do that mod antagonizing that players always to do to developers, realize those modders aint got no deadline or plans outside releasing their one off addition or something I don't see them preparing hype for dlc on a deadline. I didn't see not one modder fix rage quitters or rebalance the game either. Nah y'all could never make a game only ever fix or add to what was already made And don't bring xeno into this. Comparing xeno stages to sparking is like ps3 to ps4, it aint even close. To call the devs lazy is crazy when all it takes is some asset placement and your work is done with xeno. With sparking your actually developing a stage not some terrain.
Nigga what? Random people literally make costume and map mods for free and you telling me millions of people paid 120 for the deluxe edition of this game and you saying we tweaking for asking for costumes. Niggas make custom fits for characters in 30 minutes mind you. It can’t be hard to Set aside a group of 10 devs to make custom outfits for the game.
And i disagree.. every fight today, EVERY SINGLE PLAYER was OD spaming perception the whole time. Even training mode like it seems like they made it so that you have to perception as oposed to regular guard Dont like how they make it more stiff after every patch. It feels more stiff. It feels like you can get by the game just perceptioning the whole f ing game.
im ngl coolio, i think they should have added older trunks and goten ngl, fuck if they have the sam move set a bit fr because its not like they have actual updated versions of the characters and if you argue the gt versions, these mfs basically the same lol
its not like we actually saw goten and trunks do anything special in gt so whats wrong here ? lol but I understand why you would say its a waste tho as well but im in the middle
@ maybe if you’re shit at the game. This game isn’t even Budokai Tenkaichi anymore and the z dashing is so inconsistent now. Not to mention all the visual bugs in the middle of fights. You blat asses ruined SZ
lowkey I can say pan other than goten does have actual feats trunks and pan do but goten hell nah ounce in the baby arc maybe and just maybe but yeah they all three mostly have no significant feats in the anime or games. because they not even in the budokai games its just gotenks no videl no pan no kid anything but buu and just gotenks like bruh they dont do shit Major EDIT :they are in budokai 2 and 3 but still nothing significance or even entertaining other than becoming gotenks
What piss me off is the 50 fucking costume slots for every character if I’m being honest it seem like they trying to do some shady shit where they want to sell skins in reality but they trying to find out how to do it cause the game still fucked up and they will kill the game if they do it . Modders love the show so they do the shit, do yall not love the actual series yall getting paid for. Fit is entry level programming fuck outta here .
😂 Gamers when you tell them good things in life aint free. Y'all just want anything now and for free too don't ya? Yea that's right go ahead and start using that modder excuse whenever you don't get your way. Bet you pirate games too whenever a dev says something you don't like on social media. Just sensitive fr 😭 Your crying how sparking will die if they implement paid costumes yet xenoverse hasn't done better since with em. That's how I know your talkin crap smokin it too
Either approach and fight or stand back and pressure but chyou aint gonna get both. Dash nerf forces you to play the game without feeling comfortable just spamming and having all the time in the world to approach. You will learn to manage your ki
Fighterz aka the best DRAGONBALL game ever made is only 8gbs - 7 years old and no new maps only 8gigs and never brought a map or costumes so I’m worried it might be the same……
It costs stock and honestly a lot of the time when you’re pressing O even at the right time, it doesn’t come out, so it’s not worth the risk instead of just blocking or sidestepping
Revenge counter cost 2 blast stocks. It should reset neutral. And it should be powerful. Why does super counter and perception have a better risk/ reward with less cost. If revenge counter becomes to big of an issue make it cost 3 blast stocks in the next update
Ngl u got a good point I can’t be mad at all abt it now🤝
Definitely should reset neutral I think he too used to the old patch he gotta let that go
It does reset neutral now
@ we know
That is literally what they said 😐@@mugen4516
Ngl don the Revenge counter take is HIGHKEY an L take
Revenge counter is suppose to be a get off me move but pre-patch it was TERRIBLE. You were basically spending 2 stocks to reset the enemy's combo lol
But now you get out of a combo and resets neutral, which is perfect
Yea I agree bruh pre patch couldn’t even use them because it didn’t reset neutral and they could punish.
@@Duke9793yeah only time revenge counter was working back then was after a super
he genuinely tripping with that take😭
Ngl, the revenge counter change is a great one. You gotta remember, prepatch there was no reason to use it unless your opponent had low health and you needed to close out the round. It cost 2 points, its slow, predictable, sidestepable, you can percept it, super counter it, and it triggers wildsense and afterimage. And even if it used to connect, the opponent can just mash and get their turn back anyway. Now it pushes you further back to reset neutral and give the defender breathing room. Now its a very high risk/ high reward maneuver, whereas before it was very high risk/ minimal reward.
Im okay with it being a bit faster since you are sacrificing skill points and before it seems like a hail mary. But what i dont like is that they restricted a bunch of other moves and get arounds that didnt need to be removed. One was the side that. You cant no longer move out of the way or dash around in alot of situations JUST so that the revenge coubter works thats completely stupid.
Thats like rewarding lazy players and punishing people who learn many ways to get around.
I press 10 diffrent buttons to move around and start my game and you can just press circle or r3 and you can just lazy through the game.
Feels super stiff , half of my playstyle is gone with this patch and now its very predictable game play. Half ass combo, get person on ground blast perception rinse and repeat. It s getting more boring .
I used to never have to use perception now the game seems imposible without it. It s ridiculous
Revenge counter is probably the best buff currently, you’ll see way less vanish wars and it makes it less about ki management at high lvl but more about hands and neutral.
You aren't cooking with the revenge counter point, it's a reset tool that can't be used from behind, making it actually useful and it costs 2 skill points, so there's a cost to use it, neither you or your opponent is at an inherent advantage, it's serving it's intended purpose as a defensive option that actually isn't overtuned. Also, Idk why we acting like they can't make shit up with new characters, these were the same guys that made ssj3 vegeta, so a teen goten and trunks can be done. I want 21 and super 17 if i'm being honest though.
I never used revenge counter before the patch because it was garbage. You shouldn’t be able to continue hitting someone after performing a counter ESPECIALLY when it cost 2 skill stocks to use, you can’t with perception or super counter so it never made sense for revenge counter. Resetting to neutral is how it should work these changes are great
@@OmnipotentGamer1 I agree bruh. Revenge counter needed this.
revenge counter seems fine to me now cuz before once u did it ur opponent could just continue their combo like nothing happened😭 the dude just caught u off guard with the side step
To be fair about the Goten, Trunks, and Pan situation, Tapion didn’t do anything in Wrath of The Dragon, yet he is still in the game.
Yeah but tapion is the goat
@ He is, don’t get me wrong, but brodie was getting destroyed and did nothing. He even failed at rizzing up Bulma (God I hate using that word.)
Agreed maps n costumes r the biggest letdown imo hopefully next dlc
Nah the game feels stiff and you punch through people mid combo. I dont mind the revenge counter speed but it feels stiff and weird
This shit getting wack u gotta relearn core mechanics over and over since launch cause they can’t fine tune jack nothing
If there’s wasn’t a lot of blind hate and delusional outtake’s about this game.
Actual criticism of this game could be heard and taken seriously more.
This community is mixed up.
Why should it cost 2 ki stock if it’s so punishable like pre patch? It should have always reset to neutral like how it does now
I hope zoning with ki blasts gets touched next patch. Zoning doesn't take any skill. What is considered "controlling tempo" with zoning in Sparking would literally qualify for stalling in any other arena fighter/fighter. Which is why if you lose to zoning in this game it really isn't a skill issue cause it takes no skill in the first place and it's counter is equally unskillful. Think about it, your hp stays static, your stock goes up, your opponent just has to deflect it which takes no skill/block if it's charged. There's no true progression on the game state. It's literally stalling, unless you're trying to chip someone out it fits the definition of stalling.
Leelo is chill as well. He’s got a RUclips channel as well Don. W video
I hit Z Rank yesterday and I’m 41th best SH ultimate gohan in the world rn. But I’m retiring until I hit z on my alt account before I start to try to crazy and hit the leader boards with him. We need to run the ones frfr gang!
Thanks for talking about the game itself and not just pvp issues. Quality of life is the most important thing for this game because it’s dragon ball. We all wanna be drippy and get the best maps. I play custom story’s and make my story’s. Using the same map is boring. The new dlc characters gonna hold us of for a good couple weeks then it’s back to the norm.
I think their too many defensive options in the game and not enough offensive options they need to make z burst dash 1 ki bar again to counter these things i spend to much ki just trying to engage opponents
Revenge counter being neutral is valid especially for characters with no defensive stocks
7:21 WTF ???
Yeah tf was that😂
Lol I jus peeped
Lmao 😂
LMAOOO
The game needs more outfits , customizable colors for every character like xeno has obviously needs maps and definitely needs way more game modes some more casuals ones that friends can play together + the assault vanish glitch and sparking mode still has no ki sickness
the sequence from 1:45-2:06 was filthy
LeeLos is a great player. Very Honorable Z Rank. Had great fights with him
Another perspective on revenge counters can be that if you had to choose between super counter spam and revenge counter Id probably choose revenge counter. Revenge counter actually reset neutral now so if you were beaten their ass in neutral you just have to do it again and they're down 2 skill points. They needed something more beginner friendly for people to use as a combo breaker that wasn't super counter spam. I believe super countering should be a reward for actually learning the game timings and animations in different match ups. Most of the people probably do not know revenge counter was shadow fixed so they feel they lost a way to get out of combos. Love ya vids Don keep it up.
I’m big on customization maaaan. The main way to keep a game fresh; especially if they plan on doing bare minimum for these DLCs
I know they don't want to add any characters that haven't been showcased in the anime, but I don't quite understand why? I know folks are feening for Ultra Ego Vegeta more than any other character. On top of him, some desired characters are Granolah, Moro and Gas. I can understand why they haven't added Black Frieza in particular since we haven't seen him fight literally at all.
Revenge Counter sets you neutral now.
You can super counter revenge counter btw …
The revenge counter was straight trash B4 this patch. I think the problem with the revenge counter is that what is the main purpose of even using it?
It costs 1 skill point to counter the revenge counter that takes 2 skill point that's trash.
As far as the dlc I'm been peeping the laziness..no maps, Gohan(SH) is just a re-skin with the same moves as everybody else. Gohan and Piccolo has the same ultimate blast same animations.
As far as this game lasting beyond this year they need to add characters that are missing, maps, and do sumthing about the repetitive combat system. Just vanishes,super counter, and throwing hands gets straight bored.
As far as Perception if you're still having issues it's not the mechanic it's you at the point. I find that side stepping is just plain ridiculous in my opinion there's way too much invisibility frames.
Nah saying they actin lazy on this game is crazy gang ngl, you can clearly see the effort, they can’t just release everyting in the span of 3 months😭 you gotta give them time to release more dlcs with maps outfits and shit
Yeah the fact kame house not In the game is diabolical
could you imagine the beautiful water and sky in that stage on this game. It’s AMAZING
I can understand and agree the vanishing battles that was an excelent change imo but the w the revenge counter mechanic change they made so many other moves obsolete. I used to be able to re start the combo on a revenge counter and i cant do that anymore. My whole style has to change yet again because they ...
What the hell are they doing over at Bandai.
Im big on movement as a playstyle but it gets more and more stiff.
A plus on this patch is the camera when you are below the enemy now allows you to look up whereas before you were blind. And although i had moves that explited that, im okay with that change.
Sparking Zero Haters when you can't play as Background Character #3 from some filler arc or a random red ribbon soldier that was in the movie for 5 minutes. We should strive for characters that actually can add to the game, padding DLC is a Xenoverse strat. The DLC just started and the game preformed beyond expectations, we just have to play the waiting game. Probably the Daima DLC holds the cool stuff since it's brand new.
True but where is super android 17 and pikkon?
For me it's not even the characters it's the lack of damn maps we have because we have so many different movie characters but not their respective maps? Shit makes no damn sense
@ or customization. 18 has 5 outfits. Vegeta has like 3 of the exact same outfit. But so many are missing. Trunks from bojack, krillin and tien from buu saga, a ton for gohan, end of z goku. And they should make a skinny buu skin for fat buu. Also it would funny if they made an alternate “fusion” for mighty mask or just make it a costume for gotenks
Is no one gonna talk about 7:20? bro that was goofy as hell
bruh yes the perception input should be punishable by a major extant no cap its perception for cryi8ng out lout and players just be holding that button and block mixed with ki spam or what the fuck ever like bruh why absolutly why the fuck is it possible to spam 3 to 5 inputs and still be at advantage when you do it anytime not a specific time fucking anytime it happens.
You gone get his ass next time don don’t trip Brodie you still nice asf
All I’m asking for is new maps and do something with customization but I’m with you on is needing more Gt characters
Leelos raw af that’s my guy
I also think it’d be pretty cool if they added some of the shadow dragons from GT like Ice and Nova. Hopefully we end up getting Super 17 as well
I think if they added being able to change supers this game would be wayyyyyy better i forget which game you could tenchaichi 3 maybe? Or budokai 3 idk but i want that shit even skills . Like change either 1 skill or 1 super. 🔥🔥
RC puts yall in neutral bruh that was highly necessary when it’s supposed to be a combo breaker…but if it’s a quiet nerf im not really messing with is how mon flyers fall way too fast now. They’re annoying to fight against and feels weird to use unless you’re near the ground, they tried to go too hard on “character accuracy” when this whole game makes no sense on accuracy since the release
The patch kinda match my skills now I can do unlimited back shots
i think perception is in a good place its just when you side step it it shouldnt work like when your beside them or even sometimes when your behind them it still triggers. im sure it needs a little more tweaking but its alot more manageable now. also no one talks about this but the tracking on the perfect smash is ass. that was a go to for me in tenkaichi series but in this game it hits like 20 percent of them time maybe even less. it needs to track like vanishing assault does. also that vanishing assault glitch needs to be fixed. some of these bums abuse that. but aside from that the game is feeling alot better.
Idk bro, perception being slower is noticeable, im punishing it so much easier now. I agree on your take of revenge counter. But this patch is a W! Im enjoying SH gohan and turning into ultimate. They should definitely put GT Vegeta! I hated GT but id play Vegeta if he has ssj1 and 2 and probably add ssj4 to him and not have him as a seperate character
That Beat you in 5 seconds so OP now that shit worse than instant spark. Mf spammed supers back to back on me until it landed.
They decided to buff ssj4 goku again but wont change the z burst dash back to how it was before. Buffing this move was unnecessary bruh.
11:00 cost issue, but more importantly, 202X AAA games are not held at 200X standards. Smaller, more time crunched teams of devs. Pay for them's plateauing, plateauing the company, and vice versa. Laziness(devs and management). Emphasis to churn out, lets be fair, BETA games to be 'patched'(dlc[more money]) in it's unoptimized state that more than likely will never be correctly updated/upgraded.
Revenge counter is more so what perception should be. Perception don’t even need to be in the game. Would be cool to have some other offensive option. Maybe a Z dash thing to make it more applicable.
People was complaining about the knock backs that’s why they did that with the super counters
I kinda found myself using revenge and it also getting used on me to be very easy to punish with a perception or vanish
Who wouldn’t wanna troll with fat gotenks wym I’d rage if I lost to fat gotenks
U speaking facts where tf the skins and stages man
I feel like goten and trunks will drop after this new series about them drops, at least I hope so We Need teen goten!!! Hope they do him justice he’s Goku’s son! 🫡😭😂
It feels like you grind and they patch and then you have to relearn the whole f-ing game.
They changed , when you up triangle kick an opponent and then jump, you are stuck in that jump as opposed to before you could chose what to do , if you want to follow that combo or step away and do something else. And i feel like that got rid of that just to make the revenge counter fit everywhere.
I hate it how they are making the game so stiff.
why did you make four different comments..
@@Me.___ because thats how much this game is starting to suck. Now you punch through people on top of that
They could have put moves from the manga on goten and trunks like they have the rest of them gamma burst flash? I’d have played goten and trunks on DP
I want PIKKON. That was my main in raging blast. He has the best combos along with Tapion imo
Nah Deadass Teen Gohan Bojack unbound fit is def needed
They could add manga content off top. This dlc is not enough.
I like the new revenge counter because it cost 2 skill points
They made it seem like they would update it way more consistently than this.
When you compare its content to other db games, theres not alot of quality if life modes.
Dev team gotta make some staff upgrades fr
When the anime starts to implement the movie, they 100% will incorporate super hero trunks and super hero goten , who will definitely have their own unique moves … that’s what people mean by they should of added trunks and goten, and yes , they should off …
I agree with yoh gt points though
They’ve made wayyy too much money from fans to not pay for someone to make new stages for us to enjoy. It’s no excuse
Stage dlc coming soon
Yo, how you feeling that SS4 Goku? I think he might be the best 3 bar character in the game now, either him or ultimate Gohan. SS4 Goku was already amazing, and they gave a huge buff to my boy 😂
I doubt they would buff an "amazing" character. His pick rate must have been very low, and his 5 seconds ability must have had incredibly low usage among players.
They probably wanted another way out of backshots since most people that play this are casual and would complain that they cant get super counters. Even tho they usually spammin
I think for the revenge counter thing you just have to press perception and perfect counter it.
After a rush attack it don’t work at least when I tried it a dozen times, idk the timing but it’s definitely smth you have to expect
Yeah you have to predict when they're gonna do it. If you predict correctly your most likely get them. The only problem i have is when they're lagging then you'll miss it.
You tweaking fr with this one. Just a couple months ago y'all were hollering about how broken the game was. They took their 3 months to fix it up now mfs want costumes and maps. Either get content or get patches cant have both especially when the decision was made before release
Releasing the game in oct altered how this game's life was gonna go. I promise you this was a 2025 march release. Maiden squad would've got base forms, super 17 and eis/nuova would've got in but they aint. You would've had more maps too but you don't. That right there is how dev cycles work, so before you gas mods understand this
The team aint want it to end like this either but this is the reality of developing. Before you do that mod antagonizing that players always to do to developers, realize those modders aint got no deadline or plans outside releasing their one off addition or something
I don't see them preparing hype for dlc on a deadline. I didn't see not one modder fix rage quitters or rebalance the game either. Nah y'all could never make a game only ever fix or add to what was already made
And don't bring xeno into this. Comparing xeno stages to sparking is like ps3 to ps4, it aint even close. To call the devs lazy is crazy when all it takes is some asset placement and your work is done with xeno. With sparking your actually developing a stage not some terrain.
Nigga what? Random people literally make costume and map mods for free and you telling me millions of people paid 120 for the deluxe edition of this game and you saying we tweaking for asking for costumes. Niggas make custom fits for characters in 30 minutes mind you. It can’t be hard to Set aside a group of 10 devs to make custom outfits for the game.
RC is sooo reasonable bro, loose skill, lost health. SC And ZC are Free and balanced yet was crazy to see back to back
And i disagree.. every fight today, EVERY SINGLE PLAYER was OD spaming perception the whole time. Even training mode like it seems like they made it so that you have to perception as oposed to regular guard Dont like how they make it more stiff after every patch.
It feels more stiff.
It feels like you can get by the game just perceptioning the whole f ing game.
I eat perception holders for desert 🤫
But seriously tho perception only catch mashers so if it causes you issue reevaluate your playstyle
@Narutaux it s predictavle when the oponent is always defaulting to that but makes annoying that im forced to use it. I would rarely prepatch
I actually wanted to play as teen trunks and goten
Also why add goten trunks and pan when y’all gonna only play the same character lol no one is gonna play them 😭
And I’m annoyed bout story why do we wanna have bonus battles we could make our self’s
If you think about they reskinned MUI into Beast gohan . GT vegeta on top of all the GT characters
im ngl coolio, i think they should have added older trunks and goten ngl, fuck if they have the sam move set a bit fr because its not like they have actual updated versions of the characters and if you argue the gt versions, these mfs basically the same lol
its not like we actually saw goten and trunks do anything special in gt so whats wrong here ? lol but I understand why you would say its a waste tho as well but im in the middle
@@kendougGGi mean got the fat chick from the tournament of power and her friends instead of gt trunks and goten… and pikkon
@@MrShlokerand super 17 too
@@MrShlokerhell that one guy gohan fought that could make multiple pictures of himself could’ve been cool.
I still can stop revenge counters you can super counter it 100%
Hot topic: this game was better before the yajirobe nerf
worst take: this game was better before the yajirobe nerf
omm
@ maybe if you’re shit at the game. This game isn’t even Budokai Tenkaichi anymore and the z dashing is so inconsistent now. Not to mention all the visual bugs in the middle of fights. You blat asses ruined SZ
Lol said no one.
@ like I said hot topic, go ask rhyme style all the dragon ball OGs. Shit ain’t a BT game anymore. Just a toxic cry fest
lowkey I can say pan other than goten does have actual feats trunks and pan do but goten hell nah ounce in the baby arc maybe and just maybe but yeah they all three mostly have no significant feats in the anime or games. because they not even in the budokai games its just gotenks no videl no pan no kid anything but buu and just gotenks like bruh they dont do shit
Major EDIT :they are in budokai 2 and 3 but still nothing significance or even entertaining other than becoming gotenks
Maps are just an expense and so is outfits , like in tekken it cost 200000 to make
Nah granola or Moro and Gas
They should add those characters
What piss me off is the 50 fucking costume slots for every character if I’m being honest it seem like they trying to do some shady shit where they want to sell skins in reality but they trying to find out how to do it cause the game still fucked up and they will kill the game if they do it . Modders love the show so they do the shit, do yall not love the actual series yall getting paid for. Fit is entry level programming fuck outta here .
😂 Gamers when you tell them good things in life aint free. Y'all just want anything now and for free too don't ya?
Yea that's right go ahead and start using that modder excuse whenever you don't get your way. Bet you pirate games too whenever a dev says something you don't like on social media. Just sensitive fr 😭
Your crying how sparking will die if they implement paid costumes yet xenoverse hasn't done better since with em. That's how I know your talkin crap smokin it too
Perception doesn’t need to be touched. Yall trying to water this game down
HE CRY ABOUT EVERY THING. if he dont win evry match he start shitting hisself and even when he do win he still crying.
They shoulda never patched z dash or super counter. Infinite backshot combos the new meta. Or teleporting after every punch thrown.
Either approach and fight or stand back and pressure but chyou aint gonna get both. Dash nerf forces you to play the game without feeling comfortable just spamming and having all the time in the world to approach. You will learn to manage your ki
@ I accepted the dash, it was cool after I got use to it but this super counter bs is ridiculous. It’s hard asf to time, esp playing online.
Gt Goten is my favorite character. I’ve been praying for years they add him to a game lol. They did him dirty in gt by replacing him with dam Pan.
Not like people gone use them lol
Exactly bro. Ppl use 5 characters an want every character in existence
This game is trash I prefer when the game came out
Ngl they fucked up i agree with you
The worst take of all time
Revenge counters are fine bro, chill
Fighterz aka the best DRAGONBALL game ever made is only 8gbs - 7 years old and no new maps only 8gigs and never brought a map or costumes so I’m worried it might be the same……
It might just be…cuz fighterz(I would assume) wouldn’t take as much effort to add maps as sparking zero
Can’t u just catch the revenge counter?
It costs stock and honestly a lot of the time when you’re pressing O even at the right time, it doesn’t come out, so it’s not worth the risk instead of just blocking or sidestepping
@@monkyk1ngOh I see, I wasn’t aware it cost to catch it either
Wheres the dlc it supposed to drop today but its still not buyable