I have had a few of both and I got rid of my IFS vehicles and only have straight axle vehicles now, I hate working on IFS front ends, they are constantly wearing out parts and needing repairs when used like a 4x4 should be. And the ride all depends on your shock, spring and suspension setup, a straight axle can be just as good of a ride as many IFS setups. My XJ with a good set of coil springs, shocks and the right control arm angles rides far better than my IFS Ranger or Dakota ever did.
I have coils on my xj drives as smooth as my ifs but there always gonna be that but if play in wheel once it’s lifted enough im lilted 8-10 inches with a dana 44 up front 8.8 in the rear drives amazing but the steering just not as responsive I’ve been pretty sideways and saved it with ifs it’s just more direct I feel like but I’m only on a 3 inch lift and 33 on my daily
Good video Ronnie. Having both and liking both. With IFS its 80% driver skills and knowing his limitations. When I had my 2000 chevy blazer ZR2 on 33's everywhere my buddies went with their jeeps. It really impressed them. Because they never saw IFS with a Confident driver.
Hey Ronnie you're in PA? So am I. I do a lot of my wheeling in the North Central part and ANF. I just got a Trail Boss it has an IFS and so far it has been good, although I haven't done any crazy rock crawling with it. The rear lockers can help a lot with an IFS because if the front end is having trouble with traction the rear locker can power through especially if you have some balls under the hood.
also, when you lift the IFS you're putting on a much higher load on the CV, not when you lift the solid axel, I own both types, however I'm not doing rough 4x4 in my IFS truck.
Hi.. Good Video! I have both. Zj with 5.2 with dana and I have a T1 3.2 Tuareg. Both I use offroad. The Tuareg has air lifted suspension, and both with 33 tires. The Tuareg body height is lower then 100 mm then Jeep. What is the difference.. ? The Jeep can stack when the solid axles are sitting. I do not know exact english name... may trail.. if the center of the country rod is to hard, and the axles just siting.. and the zj cannot move.. So in this situation the Tuareg better... always can go throw.. Wall climbing depend.. how deep the trace.. Air lifted Tuareg is a really good.. and in Europe, I am Hungarian guy..so has a lot of in the junkyard.. same as jeep in Usa. Here find to any factory parts to my jeep is not so easy.. I have to wait 2-3 weeks from us shop delivery.. but anyway I like my Zj and never sell it.. 😄
Hello my Cherokee people I've have a question, I taking off my dana 30 front axle housing. I think it is bent. What's the best method to check it? I've read about the pole through method and measuring the gaping. If it is off its bent. However is there a easier me that that doesn't require me to pull out the LSD? Btw i have a 2001 WJ V8 limited.
You lose almost all of your ground clearance as the suspension cycles with IFS. Your ground clearance with a solid axle will stay the same no matter what (to the axle not the body). Which is one of the reasons why HMVEE's use portal axles.
Every single Jeep (except Wrangler) has full front and rear independent suspension. It's not new ... Wrangler is the last vehicle left on the planet to have zero independent suspension.
@@pfarraldcash6095 even the new Jeep Recon is full independent suspension and I think they're experimenting with the market in doing that. Let's face it they're competing with Land Rover.... The defender is full independent suspension... Jeep will sell more Jeeps if they can keep good off-road capability and at least put in front Independence suspension because the ride quality will improve. So Jeep has managed to sunset solid axles in all of its Jeeps except for the Wrangler. The thing of it is independent suspension IS better . It's better...period... The only issue they have is the travel... When you get independent suspension to match solid axle travel... It's better ... Period... But 20 years ago Land Rover said that they didn't really need the suspension travel anyway to still get good off-road performance and I think that has bared out for the most part. Take a look at the Cherokee Trailhawk... As long as you're not climbing a 4 ft Rock ledge.... You're going to be fine... Put a 2-in lift on it and it will do just about anything...
@@pfarraldcash6095 we'll see what happens with the Wrangler. Jeep is saying that they are going to keep the Wrangler capabilities alive at least it sounds. I don't think that they will go to Independent suspension unless they can get like 20 inches of travel out of it... If they do that, I would think they would put out a Jeep with 20 inches of travel and 37s , stock. If they don't , the the old one will be better than the new one until aftermarket catches up. I don't think they want that . Companies like Rego Rex sound like they'd kill to get a deal with Jeep (they produced independent suspension for the Wrangler with 20 inches of travel). I don't know if they ever got a deal with Jeep but it looks like they might have gotten one with the military. We'll see.
I have had a few of both and I got rid of my IFS vehicles and only have straight axle vehicles now, I hate working on IFS front ends, they are constantly wearing out parts and needing repairs when used like a 4x4 should be. And the ride all depends on your shock, spring and suspension setup, a straight axle can be just as good of a ride as many IFS setups. My XJ with a good set of coil springs, shocks and the right control arm angles rides far better than my IFS Ranger or Dakota ever did.
I have coils on my xj drives as smooth as my ifs but there always gonna be that but if play in wheel once it’s lifted enough im lilted 8-10 inches with a dana 44 up front 8.8 in the rear drives amazing but the steering just not as responsive I’ve been pretty sideways and saved it with ifs it’s just more direct I feel like but I’m only on a 3 inch lift and 33 on my daily
@@hseriesonlymonctonnb1181 Yeah a vehicle with an 8-10" lift isn't going to have the steering response of a vehicle with a 3" lift.
Good video Ronnie. Having both and liking both. With IFS its 80% driver skills and knowing his limitations. When I had my 2000 chevy blazer ZR2 on 33's everywhere my buddies went with their jeeps. It really impressed them. Because they never saw IFS with a Confident driver.
I agree 💯% with Ronnie,. Strength is sold axel vs. IFA for handling.
Hey Ronnie you're in PA? So am I. I do a lot of my wheeling in the North Central part and ANF. I just got a Trail Boss it has an IFS and so far it has been good, although I haven't done any crazy rock crawling with it. The rear lockers can help a lot with an IFS because if the front end is having trouble with traction the rear locker can power through especially if you have some balls under the hood.
Solid axle just looks wayyy better as well
I have always have better luck with straight axle, they are tougher. IFS has more moving parts.
Great video
also, when you lift the IFS you're putting on a much higher load on the CV, not when you lift the solid axel, I own both types, however I'm not doing rough 4x4 in my IFS truck.
Very well said.
Hi.. Good Video!
I have both.
Zj with 5.2 with dana and I have a T1 3.2 Tuareg.
Both I use offroad.
The Tuareg has air lifted suspension, and both with 33 tires.
The Tuareg body height is lower then 100 mm then Jeep.
What is the difference.. ?
The Jeep can stack when the solid axles are sitting. I do not know exact english name... may trail.. if the center of the country rod is to hard, and the axles just siting.. and the zj cannot move.. So in this situation the Tuareg better... always can go throw..
Wall climbing depend.. how deep the trace..
Air lifted Tuareg is a really good.. and in Europe, I am Hungarian guy..so has a lot of in the junkyard.. same as jeep in Usa.
Here find to any factory parts to my jeep is not so easy.. I have to wait 2-3 weeks from us shop delivery.. but anyway I like my Zj and never sell it.. 😄
Hello my Cherokee people
I've have a question, I taking off my dana 30 front axle housing. I think it is bent. What's the best method to check it? I've read about the pole through method and measuring the gaping. If it is off its bent.
However is there a easier me that that doesn't require me to pull out the LSD? Btw i have a 2001 WJ V8 limited.
You lose almost all of your ground clearance as the suspension cycles with IFS. Your ground clearance with a solid axle will stay the same no matter what (to the axle not the body). Which is one of the reasons why HMVEE's use portal axles.
Not if the springs are stiff. Mine barely move.
@@off-roadingexplained8417 well then they are not articulating and giving you traction. Sounds like a poor offroader if you ask me. Lol
@@ProjectXJ you have no idea how capable a slightly modified KL Trailhawk is...
@@off-roadingexplained8417 lol and i am so happy about it!
@@ProjectXJ do you hate land Rover ?
What state you in Ronnie?
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TTB=best of both worlds
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The new Ford Broncos with IFS are going to have problems in the long run.
I agree
Every single Jeep (except Wrangler) has full front and rear independent suspension. It's not new ... Wrangler is the last vehicle left on the planet to have zero independent suspension.
There is still the ram Power Wagon and Suzuki jimny
@@pfarraldcash6095 I know I'm exaggerating to make a point.... There's like less than five....
@@pfarraldcash6095 even the new Jeep Recon is full independent suspension and I think they're experimenting with the market in doing that. Let's face it they're competing with Land Rover.... The defender is full independent suspension... Jeep will sell more Jeeps if they can keep good off-road capability and at least put in front Independence suspension because the ride quality will improve. So Jeep has managed to sunset solid axles in all of its Jeeps except for the Wrangler.
The thing of it is independent suspension IS better . It's better...period... The only issue they have is the travel... When you get independent suspension to match solid axle travel... It's better ... Period...
But 20 years ago Land Rover said that they didn't really need the suspension travel anyway to still get good off-road performance and I think that has bared out for the most part. Take a look at the Cherokee Trailhawk... As long as you're not climbing a 4 ft Rock ledge.... You're going to be fine... Put a 2-in lift on it and it will do just about anything...
@@off-roadingexplained8417 you are right there are very few
@@pfarraldcash6095 we'll see what happens with the Wrangler. Jeep is saying that they are going to keep the Wrangler capabilities alive at least it sounds.
I don't think that they will go to Independent suspension unless they can get like 20 inches of travel out of it... If they do that, I would think they would put out a Jeep with 20 inches of travel and 37s , stock. If they don't , the the old one will be better than the new one until aftermarket catches up. I don't think they want that .
Companies like Rego Rex sound like they'd kill to get a deal with Jeep (they produced independent suspension for the Wrangler with 20 inches of travel). I don't know if they ever got a deal with Jeep but it looks like they might have gotten one with the military. We'll see.