Nice reminder that we probably understand our card's condition more than the random kid at PSA working a minimum wage job. Glad to see upticks across the board
So much inconsistency from company to company, gives me the notion that grading is almost worthless. The fluctuation of value based off the same card makes you wonder how to really give an honest price point. 7 PSA or 8.5 BGS/9 BGS, same exact card. I do believe those cards you regraded deserved the higher grades, they look really nice. Just makes me wonder
it doesn't matter though even with all the companies lacking something there wouldn't be a industry for cards without them, imagine no grading companies ? I would never buy a random raw card off the internet f that, ppl would be getting ripped off so bad and so much no one would collect at all
Psa and their pop control! It’s definitely real! Seems like psa really don’t want to hand out appropriate grade to especially vintage. Some of those example are so extreme! It makes you really wonder about those low pop cards. Thank you for this video Rusty!
Yet, people won't admit this and they'll just say CGC hands out easy grades. Which, anyone and their mother knows that they don't. But then they were TOTALLY fine when PSA handed out 10's like candy.
Just got my grades from my first PSA submission. Sent 20 cards and 13 came back PSA 10's, 6 PSA 9's and 1 PSA 8. Can't complain and super happy with how it turned out other than the 8 which was an ancient mew.
I've been getting killed by PSA on my last 2 submissions (2 more in the works). Cards with obvious whitening that i'm thinking will get an 8/9 are pulling 10s and cards that are flawless, just slightly off center are getting 8s. The consistency just isn't there right now and this video really makes me want to try CGC
Grading is a scam but the 2 was just an error. The bigger scam was the 9.5 and 10 electrodes. Obviously haven't seen the cards in person but assuming they were basically the same condition but different grades as if they got the same it would be too good for the consumer.
Yup grading is messed up.. how many psa 10 grades are actually 7s or 8s.. and people paying massive premium for that shit psa 10 on ebay 🤣🤣🤣 glad I don't partake in this crap..
i wouldn't recommend anyone to do this, rusty is probably a better grader then the graders themselves(and more pokemon expertise) and has a skill to see bad grades. Do not have the same expectations if you were to try and do the same.
For the people that don’t get why there are inconsistencies between the companies. All these cards have surface issues. PSA are harsh on surface issues likes tiny indents etc, and CGC aren’t.
I feel like it has more to do with human error. Theres just too much work pressure, little time, too many cards etcetc for a graders to be consistant all of the time
@@Graysandal4332 that’s also part of it. Minimum pay and human error, but I crack all my dents from PSA 6 cards and get up to 8.5s with CGC depending on the severity of the dent.
That 2 story will be cool to tell man. Those cards that hold a story are way cooler sometimes! Hope you keep that mewtwo for the story 💚 Btw, Congrats!!! Those cards look amazing!
Awesome video. These comparisons really show the standards in which these companies operate. Not necessarily consistently but it shows. I cracked 40 cgc cards and sent them to BGS. Every single one of them came back with significantly better grades. All 40 cards came back from beckett with stronger grades. Thats not a coincidence!
This video is so embarrassing for PSA! It’s videos like yours that show true cards that aren’t deserving of poor grades that help bolster the public’s opinion in CGC over PSA! Great video and I’ll be grading through cgc next!
@@oppa444 I don’t think it’s easier, I think PSA just is lazy and also has population control as well. I think a PSA 8 used to be more valuable than a cgc 9 but that is shifting because people are realizing like this video that PSA is getting sloppy and cgc is much more reliable
@@ELfrancobar it’s embarrassing for PSA because like Rusty said, he looked for cards that were in his opinion mis-graded. So I believe someone like Rusty who finds a card that was graded incorrectly and I believe cgc when they grade it accordingly. Now if the card was a 6 then yes give it a 6. But like that PSA 2, that was a wrong grade - just like every single one of these cards was graded inconsistently and incorrectly
I think people know by now that PSA graded cards are more valuable than CGC graded cards. A PSA 9 card could be worth like $200, and the same card as CGC 9 would only cost around $130-140.
Thank you for this video. I never gave CGC a chance vs PSA and BGS. The slab does look clean and at my local card shop I only see PSA and CGC slabs. If I know I have an absolute pristine card I think I’d go for BGS because of the categorized grading and that gold label pristine 10, but if not then I’d love to give CGC a shot. Got a bunch of 9s and 9.5s through SGC that I’m thinking about regrading through CGC. Thanks again! Happy hunting
Im loving this Rusty. I sent the psa 6 yanma neo discovery I purchased from you and got an 8 from cgc. That charizard 1st edition base I have ungraded definitely needs to go to CGC for grading now.
It’s so frustrating sending cards to whichever company and them always grading them different. Really wish they went 100% robots so if a cards a 10 you always get a 10. If it’s a 9 you always receive a 9. Just frustrating you’re always fighting the grader and the company in the equation for your cards you sent to get graded
Often with PSA you will find some cards that they grade unjustifiedly low in your bulk submissions. Like a pack fresh with decent centering and no whitening yet given impossibly low grades like 6 or 7 or something like that. When it happens, you gotta crack them open and either send them back to psa or other grading companies to get graded again, and most of the time, it’ll come back as a much higher grade. I really dont know how PSA keeps doing this. Like in every 30 or 50 there is always usually 1 or 2 with stupidly unjustifiable low grades that will 90% get much higher grades when you resub them.
What makes you wonder? TCA cherry picked these card because he knows PSA screwed up on their grades. Those cards are all mint condition and should be 9 minimum. PSA's pop control makes them gives 7 and 8s for no reason just to make 9 and 10s more valuable for their VIP customers
As someone new to grading, what company should I use? I'm based in the UK and I see very inconsistent things from PSA. PSA seem to be everyone's fave still?
I think we need a company that gives the same card to 3 people and averages the score tbh. Itll never work but it would weed out the workers who just mark a random number between 7 and 9.5.
I agree! I've been closely watching the company AGS. Haven't sent any cards to them yet but their AI technology takes all the human error out of the grading process. They took the same card and graded it multiple times and it gets the same grade every time. Plus when you scan the code on the back of the slab you get to see why the card got the grade it got.
Yeah I have a few cards with low grades psa4 and a couple 6-7's I've been thinking of breaking out and regrading. I have a base set Flareon PSA 8.5 with older certs and I want the new cert label to match my Vaporeon and Jolteon. But yeah i believe the my Erika's Venusaur should be at least a psa7 but it's a 4. So I'm going to definitely regrade a few of my cards with the hopes they might get a better grade from other cards I've seen.
Great video this was fun to watch! Never could see how people rationalize spending loads of money for someone’s opinion on their cards card graders sound like wine tasters to me
Awesome video on why I can careless about grades in psa. Psa is a joke I'll always stick with BGS....Can you submit some to BGS so we can see the difference? ✌️
CGC is a terrible place to grade cards. I have seen completely Heavily played cards get a 7.5 from cgc. Where bgs or psa would send it back and rightfully so.
soooo… my favorite card of all time has been Charmeleon from Rocket set, question! if I were to buy one first edition graded, what do you or anyone reading this, would recommend for me to purchase, which case?
to eliminate bias. CGC wouldn't want it to look like they're less strict than PSA. Like CGC wouldn't really want to give a PSA 7 a CGC 9 even if it's fair.
I actually bought a PSA 5 Koga from you for dirt cheap because it looked perfect no idea why it was a 5. I cracked it and regraded at PSA and it came back a 10. Makes no sense.
My confidence in grade didn't go up during this video 😂 A 2 instead of 8.5 is an understandable rare mistake. But a 9 instead of a perfect 10?! Somebody is faking to work somewhere...
Surprised to see psa grade below cgc. I was under the impression that cgc was a harder grade. However psa was a better value. I thought a cgc 8 would be a psa 9 not a psa 8 going to a cgc 9 or 9.5
i have a few graded cards ive sent during the pandemic and they got really shafted grades. i can show them to you. would love have your opinion on them. i was really let down by the grades the i believe PSA was holding the grades. I dont think you would be wasting your time. Would you be interested? Thanks and take care.
Unpopular opinion CGC grades easier for all grade levels except pristine and perfect 10. They dock perfect cards down to 9.5 for no reason. On top of that, psa grades vintage harsher than cgc. I always send separate submissions to cgc and psa based on these parameters
I have a beautiful tyranitar ex i just pulled from unseen forces a few weeks back, abaolutly amazing condition and PSA gave it a 9 twice. Im hella temptes to go to CGC next. The value jump is astronomical so its super worth it to try.
Seeing this video is making me reconsider grading with CGC. PSA gave me 5-6 8's recently that I was shocked that they didn't receive 9's at the bare minimum. With layoffs recently too I am worried that the quality control is going to be poor at PSA, on top of turnaround times increasing in length
This video is disgusting to me. PSA needs to go down. We all know they are shady as hell. They just dont care anymore because they are so ingrained into the hobby.
Cgc is clearly the better company from my viewing experience. Both are literally scams but the psa case is disgusting and only considered better because of history. Nothing more, nothing less. Cgc case is better, 0.5s are good, error grading, more consistent. If only a company actually judged the cards on condition rather than price and card quality.
Nice reminder that we probably understand our card's condition more than the random kid at PSA working a minimum wage job. Glad to see upticks across the board
So much inconsistency from company to company, gives me the notion that grading is almost worthless. The fluctuation of value based off the same card makes you wonder how to really give an honest price point. 7 PSA or 8.5 BGS/9 BGS, same exact card. I do believe those cards you regraded deserved the higher grades, they look really nice. Just makes me wonder
it doesn't matter though even with all the companies lacking something there wouldn't be a industry for cards without them, imagine no grading companies ? I would never buy a random raw card off the internet f that, ppl would be getting ripped off so bad and so much no one would collect at all
Psa is inconsistent.
Psa and their pop control! It’s definitely real! Seems like psa really don’t want to hand out appropriate grade to especially vintage.
Some of those example are so extreme!
It makes you really wonder about those low pop cards.
Thank you for this video Rusty!
Yet, people won't admit this and they'll just say CGC hands out easy grades. Which, anyone and their mother knows that they don't. But then they were TOTALLY fine when PSA handed out 10's like candy.
Fantasy
Just got my grades from my first PSA submission. Sent 20 cards and 13 came back PSA 10's, 6 PSA 9's and 1 PSA 8. Can't complain and super happy with how it turned out other than the 8 which was an ancient mew.
I've been getting killed by PSA on my last 2 submissions (2 more in the works). Cards with obvious whitening that i'm thinking will get an 8/9 are pulling 10s and cards that are flawless, just slightly off center are getting 8s. The consistency just isn't there right now and this video really makes me want to try CGC
The CGC slabs also look amazing in hand. crystal freakin clear and feels like higher quality acryl/plastic
Breaking out a 2 and getting an 8.5...bro, grading is a scam.
Grading is a scam but the 2 was just an error. The bigger scam was the 9.5 and 10 electrodes. Obviously haven't seen the cards in person but assuming they were basically the same condition but different grades as if they got the same it would be too good for the consumer.
Yup grading is messed up.. how many psa 10 grades are actually 7s or 8s.. and people paying massive premium for that shit psa 10 on ebay 🤣🤣🤣 glad I don't partake in this crap..
Or CGC is a scam lol
Yep I used to like slabs until I won a cgc 8.5 and it had a bend in it no point in paying for someone to tell you the condition
@@jakebaca264 yeah but they don’t grade on a bend scale. I have “bent” cards graded 10s, it’s not in the grading scale.
By no means a bias between CGC or PSA.
I think this really just shows the inconsistency from PSA. Harsh for no reason, we want accuracy.
i wouldn't recommend anyone to do this, rusty is probably a better grader then the graders themselves(and more pokemon expertise) and has a skill to see bad grades. Do not have the same expectations if you were to try and do the same.
For the people that don’t get why there are inconsistencies between the companies. All these cards have surface issues. PSA are harsh on surface issues likes tiny indents etc, and CGC aren’t.
I feel like it has more to do with human error. Theres just too much work pressure, little time, too many cards etcetc for a graders to be consistant all of the time
@@Graysandal4332 that’s also part of it. Minimum pay and human error, but I crack all my dents from PSA 6 cards and get up to 8.5s with CGC depending on the severity of the dent.
That 2 story will be cool to tell man. Those cards that hold a story are way cooler sometimes! Hope you keep that mewtwo for the story 💚
Btw, Congrats!!! Those cards look amazing!
“Don’t judge them” PSA are literally meant to have two quality checks undertaken for each card. I judge the sh*t out of them 😅
quality check isn't a regrade, its a check of the encasement and if there is damage card or mislabel
Seems like anyone can get a job at PSA.
Psa too harsh and too lenient they need to choose a side 😂
Awesome video. These comparisons really show the standards in which these companies operate. Not necessarily consistently but it shows. I cracked 40 cgc cards and sent them to BGS. Every single one of them came back with significantly better grades. All 40 cards came back from beckett with stronger grades. Thats not a coincidence!
19:37 Thats Sceptile not Scyther Rusty! Lol
Its weird that its usually PSA that give those horrible grades for no reason
That Pichu has been one of my favorite cards since I was a kid. ❤
It really seems like they pull grades out of a bingo spinner sometimes.
This video is so embarrassing for PSA! It’s videos like yours that show true cards that aren’t deserving of poor grades that help bolster the public’s opinion in CGC over PSA! Great video and I’ll be grading through cgc next!
its easier to get higher grades with cgc. a psa 8 depending on the card is more valuable then a cgc 9
@@oppa444 I don’t think it’s easier, I think PSA just is lazy and also has population control as well. I think a PSA 8 used to be more valuable than a cgc 9 but that is shifting because people are realizing like this video that PSA is getting sloppy and cgc is much more reliable
Or is it embarrassing for CGC? They give an 8 on a card that should be a six?
@@ELfrancobar it’s embarrassing for PSA because like Rusty said, he looked for cards that were in his opinion mis-graded. So I believe someone like Rusty who finds a card that was graded incorrectly and I believe cgc when they grade it accordingly. Now if the card was a 6 then yes give it a 6. But like that PSA 2, that was a wrong grade - just like every single one of these cards was graded inconsistently and incorrectly
@@ThePokeCrib
I was a bit sarcastic. For me it is bad for both companies.
I think people know by now that PSA graded cards are more valuable than CGC graded cards. A PSA 9 card could be worth like $200, and the same card as CGC 9 would only cost around $130-140.
Psa is junk on grading. I feel cgc is much fairer.
Thank you for this video. I never gave CGC a chance vs PSA and BGS. The slab does look clean and at my local card shop I only see PSA and CGC slabs. If I know I have an absolute pristine card I think I’d go for BGS because of the categorized grading and that gold label pristine 10, but if not then I’d love to give CGC a shot. Got a bunch of 9s and 9.5s through SGC that I’m thinking about regrading through CGC. Thanks again! Happy hunting
I did send off a lot of the recent pulls from our base set openings to psa. will also share with you and hopefully everyone else when they return.
Im loving this Rusty. I sent the psa 6 yanma neo discovery I purchased from you and got an 8 from cgc. That charizard 1st edition base I have ungraded definitely needs to go to CGC for grading now.
Yeah I had a PSA 6 blaine's moltres 1st edition go to a CGC 8
@@misterscorbunny5524 way to go
Guess it really just depends on the Joe blow looking at the card for 30 seconds
That maril has a huge dent right above the name 😮
Doesn’t look like a dent just a little uneven foil a dent would be seen from the back
It’s so frustrating sending cards to whichever company and them always grading them different. Really wish they went 100% robots so if a cards a 10 you always get a 10. If it’s a 9 you always receive a 9. Just frustrating you’re always fighting the grader and the company in the equation for your cards you sent to get graded
I'm sure we'll have AI grading soon.
Check out AGS I believe that is the future of card grading. Their CEO said that PSA did inquire and their AI technology.
Often with PSA you will find some cards that they grade unjustifiedly low in your bulk submissions. Like a pack fresh with decent centering and no whitening yet given impossibly low grades like 6 or 7 or something like that. When it happens, you gotta crack them open and either send them back to psa or other grading companies to get graded again, and most of the time, it’ll come back as a much higher grade. I really dont know how PSA keeps doing this. Like in every 30 or 50 there is always usually 1 or 2 with stupidly unjustifiable low grades that will 90% get much higher grades when you resub them.
Honestly CGC slabs just feel better than PSA slabs I like their container better
Wow that’s awesome! Cgc always nail me with grades. I’ve gotten better results with psa.
These made sense to transfer but grading has become less and less appealing to me for some reason
Incredible results. Makes you wonder who is more accurate. I wish PSA gave you a breakdown, it would be a huge jump service.
What makes you wonder? TCA cherry picked these card because he knows PSA screwed up on their grades. Those cards are all mint condition and should be 9 minimum. PSA's pop control makes them gives 7 and 8s for no reason just to make 9 and 10s more valuable for their VIP customers
As someone new to grading, what company should I use? I'm based in the UK and I see very inconsistent things from PSA. PSA seem to be everyone's fave still?
It's pretty wild to see all of the bumps, especially by +2, great video.
Not really psa undergrades especially bigger cards
Which company do you find the best to grade with? Both cost wise and from a selling point of view.
I think we need a company that gives the same card to 3 people and averages the score tbh. Itll never work but it would weed out the workers who just mark a random number between 7 and 9.5.
Great showcase of potential upgrades anyone can have! Thank you for showcasing yours Rusty!
Is it better to break them out of the PSA case before sending them in?
They need to come up with a standard grading scale for everyone, something computerized or something to get rid of human error and opinion
I agree! I've been closely watching the company AGS. Haven't sent any cards to them yet but their AI technology takes all the human error out of the grading process. They took the same card and graded it multiple times and it gets the same grade every time. Plus when you scan the code on the back of the slab you get to see why the card got the grade it got.
hey, id have a question, does PSA get informed by cgc that they did this or ? what about the population of psa going theoricly -1?
a 7 on that marill seemed way 2 low for me as well, the 9.5 seemed more fitting.
Do you think these would get the same grades if you send these in slab using the crossover service?
Yeah I have a few cards with low grades psa4 and a couple 6-7's I've been thinking of breaking out and regrading. I have a base set Flareon PSA 8.5 with older certs and I want the new cert label to match my Vaporeon and Jolteon. But yeah i believe the my Erika's Venusaur should be at least a psa7 but it's a 4. So I'm going to definitely regrade a few of my cards with the hopes they might get a better grade from other cards I've seen.
PSA Mint 9 to CGC Gem Mint 9.5 is a full grade jump, not a half grade like the other cgc + grades.
Great video this was fun to watch! Never could see how people rationalize spending loads of money for someone’s opinion on their cards
card graders sound like wine tasters to me
Awesome video on why I can careless about grades in psa. Psa is a joke I'll always stick with BGS....Can you submit some to BGS so we can see the difference? ✌️
That 7 to 9.5 was proof psa is fugazie. Cgc seems more consistent in this video
CGC is a terrible place to grade cards. I have seen completely Heavily played cards get a 7.5 from cgc. Where bgs or psa would send it back and rightfully so.
soooo… my favorite card of all time has been Charmeleon from Rocket set, question! if I were to buy one first edition graded, what do you or anyone reading this, would recommend for me to purchase, which case?
And yet PSA cards are more valuable for respective grades than CGC
What is the advantage to breaking them out of the case and sending in raw versus sending them in as a cross over submission?
to eliminate bias. CGC wouldn't want it to look like they're less strict than PSA. Like CGC wouldn't really want to give a PSA 7 a CGC 9 even if it's fair.
Is it really going up a full grade when going from PSA to CGC? For example, these could get a DSG 10 and it wouldn't add a penny of value...
My point is we've known for YEARS that you will get a higher grade with CGC than PSA on the same card... This isn't anything new
Nice video, PSA can be inconsistent on their grades
Hey Rusty, if your crossing over from PSA to CGC would recommend cracking the PSA card first or just sending to have crossed and regraded ?
always always crack unless you're cracking the metal pokemon cards then its too risky to crack it yourself
PSA giving pack fresh cards a 2 is all you need to know.
You called Sceptile Scyther at the end lol 😝 awesome vid!
I actually bought a PSA 5 Koga from you for dirt cheap because it looked perfect no idea why it was a 5. I cracked it and regraded at PSA and it came back a 10. Makes no sense.
My confidence in grade didn't go up during this video 😂 A 2 instead of 8.5 is an understandable rare mistake. But a 9 instead of a perfect 10?! Somebody is faking to work somewhere...
0:46 where can you pull that mew from?
Im from Europe. Are CGC better to grade than any other company? Thanks for your time
Surprised to see psa grade below cgc. I was under the impression that cgc was a harder grade. However psa was a better value. I thought a cgc 8 would be a psa 9 not a psa 8 going to a cgc 9 or 9.5
While people are cracking cgc to get psa this guy is cracking psa to go cgc. Big balls tcagaming at it again
Man whoever graded those at PSA should def be fired. Hope PSA checks out this video. Those 3+ grade bumps are ridiculous.
This is why AI grading will be superior in five years. The fact that we still value human error and pop control is beyond me
Its because collectors are ocd about that 10
The southern island cards 7 up to 9.5 is bizarre. What is going on haha
i have a few graded cards ive sent during the pandemic and they got really shafted grades. i can show them to you. would love have your opinion on them. i was really let down by the grades the i believe PSA was holding the grades. I dont think you would be wasting your time. Would you be interested? Thanks and take care.
Unpopular opinion CGC grades easier for all grade levels except pristine and perfect 10. They dock perfect cards down to 9.5 for no reason. On top of that, psa grades vintage harsher than cgc. I always send separate submissions to cgc and psa based on these parameters
Comparing cgc prices to psa prices is crazy
Its the "ahhh shoot" for me😂
I think this video makes me question all grading even more! #ImWithRattle
Cgc 10 is better than psa 10
Goes without saying but PSA is just so inconsistent for both high grades and low grades. Don’t see why they’re so trusted when this stuff is so common
I can't say that this makes me feel good about grading. Especially towards CGC
If Leonhart did this 60% of his grades would go down.
Cherry picked or not I’m grading with CGC
These grading companies just throw darts at dart boards to give out grades 😂😂😂
I have a beautiful tyranitar ex i just pulled from unseen forces a few weeks back, abaolutly amazing condition and PSA gave it a 9 twice. Im hella temptes to go to CGC next. The value jump is astronomical so its super worth it to try.
Do it, I guarantee it gets a 9.5 minimum
All those 9.5 are now 10 🔥 🤣
So does that make a PSA 10 more valuable then 👀
Man that sceptile is beautiful
How does this even make sense
Love your work, keep it up big fella
CGC knows what they’re doing. Never had a sub I haven’t agreed with
Seeing this video is making me reconsider grading with CGC. PSA gave me 5-6 8's recently that I was shocked that they didn't receive 9's at the bare minimum. With layoffs recently too I am worried that the quality control is going to be poor at PSA, on top of turnaround times increasing in length
Psa is trash! The one thing they could’ve shined with was giving out easier grade. Clearly they failed.
Should send to scg to get a 10; they are very generous
PSA is a disaster. Cant wait to send more lolol
PSA overgrades not CGC, we laugh about it at conventions when I bring in PSA cards to show CGC
PSA is very inconsistent. CGC seems on average to do better
This video is disgusting to me. PSA needs to go down. We all know they are shady as hell. They just dont care anymore because they are so ingrained into the hobby.
I truely believe that i can grade cards better than these companies.
And people think these things at present are investable 😂
Psa qa2 is a complete joke
too bad we cant see the cgc subgrades
I’m seeing guys cracking cgc and getting much higher grades with psa ? What gives rusty plz explain. My friend !
WHAT??????????????????????????????????????????????????????
ive got the pichu and hera in a 10 😎😎
Cgc is clearly the better company from my viewing experience. Both are literally scams but the psa case is disgusting and only considered better because of history. Nothing more, nothing less. Cgc case is better, 0.5s are good, error grading, more consistent. If only a company actually judged the cards on condition rather than price and card quality.
#CrackGang
Either PSAs technology is inferior or makes more mistakes than CGC or CGC is missing things that PSA doesn't. Either way it's not good for the hobby.