What if Snape was not killed by Voldemort, and he Seeked out harry during the Battle of Hogwarts? What would the conversation look like between the two? How would Snape convince harry he was on there side?
@TheRationalTurk SPOILER ALERT In an alternate timeline in the Cursed Child where Voldemort won the Battle of Hogwarts, Snape is still alive and teaching Potions under Headmistress Dolores Umbridge.
That Mint Yes, Scorpius goes to him for help to retrieve the original timeline. When they come back from u doing what Scorpius did with the First Task, like in Half-Blood Prince, Snape (sorta) kills the Head of Hogwarts.
@TheRationalTurk I sometimes have the same thoughts, I even think he could have been Albus Severus (from cursed child) godfather. If Snape convinces Harry he is on there side
Snape was million times skillfull wizard than any of those marauders. So what if he was interested in dark arts. He was just interested the limits of magic which dark magic provided him. It does not mean he is bad. I think in gryffindor under McGonagall and dumbledore's guidance he would have done wonderful.
It really depends on how you use magic. Even if some magic is not classified as Dark Arts, you can still cause harm using them. One perfect example is how James used Scourgify to chok Snape, given the spell was created for cleaning originally. Even the most innocent spells like Wingardium Leviosa could be misused, say you use the spell to smash a heavy object to someone's head causing concussion or other fatal brain damage. It was never the magic that is evil, it was the caster's intention. That's why I personally don't think practicing Dark Arts is "bad" or evil. If someone engage in the Dark Arts out of curiosity and ambition to be a powerful wizard, it's not a problem. It's a problem only when someone harms with magic, be it Dark Arts or non-Dark Arts.
I think it would be rated PG-17 or higher due to the fact that his father literally *tortured* him. And here's the thing: bigotry is horrible, but sometimes it's based on something. Snape's bigotry against muggles may have been due to the fact that his father was a muggle; that does not justify the bigotry, but at least it's not completely incomprehensible.
What if when Petunia had said "that boy" when explaining how she knew about Azkaban, and Harry told her to admit that it is was his father, she had instead replied with "No that Snape boy".
Oh then Voldemort would have been suspicious of Snape. People don't seem to understand that if Snape did give Harry a chance then Death Eater spy would have reported everything back to Voldemort. Another thing to consider is that Harry's mind was open book. Yes it was also because he had part of Voldemort inside him.
I find it hard to believe that James would befriend Peter Petigrew but not Severus Snape. Even if they got off on the wrong foot before the sorting. I think they would eventually become friends since they have all their classes together and share a dorm room. James was prejudiced against Slytherins, so if Snape was is Gryffindor, James wouldn’t have hated him so much.
But if Snape was in the same dorm as James and Sirius, isn't there a chance that they would eventually warm up to each other after J/S initially teasing him? I mean since James and Sirius would have had lesser reasons to hate a Gryffindor Snape. Their one encounter on the train wouldn't have sealed the fate of their relationship. Sometimes kids get off on the wrong foot but eventually become friends. Plus, Remus convinced James and Sirius to include Peter in their group and they listened to him because JKR said James and Sirius valued Remus' kindness. If Remus showed Snape the same kindness, J/S might have listened to him about Snape like they did about Peter.
Yeah. I don't think things would've been anywhere near as contentious between Snape and James if they'd gotten to know one another. James was picking on a nerdy kid from another house. It's entirely possible he would've chosen a different target if Snape'd been in Gryffindor.
@Dean Winchester Yeah:) He would have been better than that rat (Peter). I don't think he would have betrayed them if they were his best friends. It would have been nice if that rat Peter and him were switched between Gryffindor and Slyhterin.
@EmileeArsenic It wasn't just James that targeted, it was James AND Sirius. And they didn't target Snape because he was nerdy. It doesn't necessarily mean that James and Sirius would target one particular person without Snape in Slytherin. In HBP, Harry targeted Crabbe and Filch to test out the HBP spells. Harry targeted them because of their awful characters. It's likely that the people James and Sirius targeted were also similar (ie: Sytherins like Crabbe).
I love this idea. But don't forget, James hated the dark arts. He and Sirius would not like Severus at all. However, I do think that Lupin may have befriended Snape. He did befriend Peter, who would've been similar in social status to Snape; the lowest in the social hierarchy of the housr. I believe that Peter might have eventually befriended Snape through Lupin if he did not get in with the marauders. Although at first Peter would have felt uncomfortable around Snape and Snape may have looked down on Peter, they might eventually have formed some kind of friendship. I'd also like to think Snape and Lily would have stayed close and maybe he would have overcome his prejudices. That's just wishful thinking though, since the scars of a childhood of abuse don't just vanish over night.
fugiapple96 hey took on the role of a double agent lying and risking his life everyday allowing everyone to think he was a monster. If that's not courage and loyalty then what is?
You raise a great point. Courage is akin to Gryffindor, while Hufflepuff is akin to loyalty. I may not have been explicit enough, but I was attempting to emphasize his intellect. His brilliance rivaled the likes of Tom Riddle to the point Voldemort would go to Snape directly for any questions he had. With that said, Snape was remarkably brave.
I think he would have made a remarkable Gryffindor and would have taken the place of Peter, It may have been a rough start but I fully believe he would have been Moony, Fork tongue, Padfoot, and Prong. But if it did go that way I could easily see Snape being asked to act as the double agent by the Order and agree in hopes of helping his friends. Under the guise of being jealous of James and Lily, He would have been a remarkable 2nd Godfather to Harry I say 2nd because he would have been Lily's choice.
@Tino Saldivar I agree:) I see Snape's animagus being a panther for some reason. It takes more than bravery to be Gryffindor I think. Even Tom Riddle showed a lot of bravery. Gryffindors are usually reckless and can be quite foolhardy in their bravery. Snape isn't reckless and I think he's usually more cautious/tactful in his moves which made him a great spy/ double agent.
Then Explain Hermione, I think they have a lot in common. Both brilliant and willing to go to the wall for there fiends even when those friends are mad at them or asking for something huge. Domador being the best example. He asked Snap for the hardest thing he could do. Plus I'm sure his animagus would be a snake. In my head I could see him chasing that rat Peter around. I could honestly see there roles switching around and Remus being the professor and Snape being framed for murder and Sirius spending his life trying to prove his friends innocents.
Bullying isn't a Slytherin trait. James wasn't cunning or bigoted like Draco. He showed much more bravery and chivalry than Draco. He's also reckless like a Gryffindor rather than tactful. But yes, he has the same Slytherin traits as Harry (disregard for the rules, determination, resourcefulness). Had he have been in Slytherin, Snape and him might have become friends or at least civil to each other. I assume James would have wanted friends in his dorm.
Draco was a cowardly, ignorant, and deluded bully. James faced death with his head held high, he became an illegal animagus so Remus wouldn't be alone, he took Sirius in after he ran away, he also took Lupin in because werwolves weren't able to find paying jobs. He was awful to Snape, but Snape did laugh when his own gang bullied others. We saw ONE flashback from Snape's point of view... that is NOWHERE near enough for us to deduce if James was exactly like Draco. Not to mention, he grew out his arrogant ways by seventh year then joined the Order and died for his wife and children.
so if severus's dad wasn't so horrible to him and his mom for having magical abilites he wouldn't be so quick to reject his muggle side because I think some of his issues stem from his dad's mistreatment of him and his mother
Since you are all searching for that answer I would like to explain what I wanted to do.. I wanted to stay with the Dark Lord, not as a loyal servant but as someone to hear the information and maybe warn some people. I heard my friend Severus defected for a girl, I would have contacted him (profided I wasn't sentenced to Azkaban for my crimes) and figured out a way to protect her. My friend is dear to me and I can not put him through misery. I would also have contacted my brother, he might not have liked Slytherins but he wanted to give me a chance, as long as I could show him some proof of my defection. If by chance I would have managed to survive in that cave, I would have shown him the locket. Now all that is there for him is a letter, written in a way to know I still care. I do hope this clears things up, if you have any questions feel free to contact me, Sincerely, Regulus Black
What if Hagrid gave baby Harry to Sirius instead of taking him to the Dursleys?. I was rereading Prisoners of Az when I had this thought and the house of cards it would unleash
Katheryne Koelker I know. This is part of the house of cards would have been kicked off in my head. When Hagrid went to rescue Harry he meet Sirius he asked Hagrid to give Harry to him as his Godfather. Hagrid refused due to following Dumbledors orders. However, what if Hagrid hadn't. Even if Dumbledor step in the next day would it be too late? What about Wormtail? There are what if questions here?
lqyzdm Would Sirius have been able to protect Harry? Sirius had been accused (by Peter, if I remember) of the Potters' death. The Ministry, if they found Sirius, would have taken Harry from Sirius.
I think in Snape's life Lily symbolized something good when all was strained at his home. But instead of their friendship developing into a healthy relationship for both of them Snape developed unriquited feeling for Lily and put her on a pedestal but as Lily grew up she changed and no longer fit into that pedestal and hence the rift between them. If Snape would have only accepted his friendship with Lily at it's face value, he wouldn't have been so lonely and may be it would have changed somethings for him.
Best case scenario I think that he wouldn't have fallen in with the Death Eaters, but he still would've hated James. Lily would still end up with James but her and Snape wouldn't grow apart, he'd just not get along with James. But realistically, most likely your theory
James was much more than just an arrogant bully. And he did mature out of it. Bullying is not a Slyhterin trait. He would have been in Slytherin because he disregarded rules, was determined, resourceful and had talent (all priced Slyhterin traits according to Dumbledore).
Very interesting vid. Snape is a person who "lives in inside his own head" and doesn't like people very much at all. Maybe I'm wrong, but I don't remember any of the Griffindors actually bullying each other. To me it seems that if Snape was sorted into Griffindor, Moony, Padfood, Wormtail and Prongs probably wouldn't have teased him at all, seeing Snape as a bookworm, and not very much fun.
I don't think Severus did truly subscribe to the blood prejudice ideology, he had a low opinion of muggles sure thanks to his father but I really do not think he was as opposed to them as one may think. Being sorted into Slytherin thereby subsequently separated from Lily and surrounded by future Death Eaters increased Snape's desire for acknowledgement and greatness to unhealthy lengths. In my mind, that day he called Lily a mudblood was not due to genuine prejudice but simply irrational anger and the bad influence people like Avery, Mulciber and Malfoy had on him. If he were sorted into Gryffindor, the more positive aspects of his personality would begin to flourish and subsequently reshape him into quite a different character which is why I have to respectfully disagree with a few things on this video as it is very much of the mentality that Snape would still show such little growth. I definitely think the Marauders would still bully Snape but as time went on and Severus developed into the brave, loyal, strong and admirable man we have seen him capable of being in Canon I do think they would eventually see Snape not as some greasy git but as a fellow housemate and a respectable wizard and human being. As for Lily, Rowling herself once stated that whole issue could be boiled down to the fact Snape at the end of the day had to choose between the Dark Arts or Lily and as we all know in Canon he chose quite poorly but here there's no reason for Snily not to happen in this scenario as I will explain. Had he been in Gryffindor I do truly believe Snape would've been surrounded by the positivity he was so desperately starved of as a child. The sad truth is Snape was an emotionally damaged time bomb of a child and being put in the same house as people like Lucius Malfoy and literal Death Eaters in training (not all Slytherins but lets face it a lot of them) did no good for him. But remove those bad influences and the appeal of the Dark Arts is diminished massively because Snape would be able to maintain his strong friendship with Lily much better here with no problem and that would blossom into a romance I do think. James while not nearly as horrible as fans sometimes portray him is still an arrogant bully and he only underwent his attitude change during his last years at Hogwarts while Severus and Lily's relationship dynamic which dates back to Pre-Hogwarts and has had so much time to develop unstrained so I cannot in good conscience say Jily triumphs in this what-if. Long and short of it, Gryffindor Snape would've been very different to Canon Snape in that he would have been put in an environment that encouraged the best aspects of his personality and completely rewritten his story and overall...he would just be happier.
I think him and Remus would get along, Remus was attracted towards the outcasts which is why he took a shine towards Peter, he would’ve probably become really good friends with him and even prevented James and Sirius Bullying Him and told them to be nicer to him
Voldemort would've been more suspicious of him and the plan between Snape and Dumbledore likely would've failed and with it the second wizarding war would be lost.
Jakby Snejpa przydzielono do Gryffindoru to może byłby jednym z Huncwotów i nie miałby wstrętu do szlam. Jakby był z Lily to James wywaliłby go z paczki...
I actually disagree with you Remus is also a half blood and a also felt isolated. I do think that they could a started a friendship. James and Sirius aren't the only people in dorms. I actually think that Sirius wouldn't have cared about Severus half as much if he was a Gryffindor. I do agree that James and Lily would still end up together but thats all
True, Remus would have been kind to him. Pottermore said that James and Sirius took a shine to Remus because of his kindness and listened to him about including Peter. They might have listened to him about Snape too. James and Sirius would have lesser reasons to hate Snape if he was Slytherin, so the 3 boys might have warmed up to each other after initial coldness, being in the same dorm and everything.
I believe the Marauders would be less of a bullies towards Snape, but more like bitter rivals toward each other, especially James and Snape, because they share the same crush towards Lily.
I agree with you completely. Snape would certainly not been the most popular person in Griffindor, but Snape is not a people person, is he? Yes, James and Lily would have ended up together, and Snape would probably just as heartbroken and resentful of James.
This is assuming that Snape doesn't get the same development arc as Neville Longbottom. Over the course of Neville's Hogwarts schooling, he went from someone who looked to have been destined for Hufflepuff to as pure a Gryffindor as Harry Potter himself. I would think that during his schooling, a Gryffindor Severus Snape would have had his Slytherin traits boiled away, possibly resulting in Snape replacing Pettigrew as one of the messers on the Marauder's Map.
I have a question. If a hourcrux from someone like Tom Riddle, who has the ability to talk snake, can make the person living with a hourcrux inside them make them speak to snakes, then what will happen if a wizard made a hourcrux and put it inside a muggle or squib? Will they have the ability to do magic? P.S.: I will be coping this commenting this in every video so you can see it.
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Very good one, Dean!!!!! Could you consider a video that explores the concept of a spell or artifact that could implant the magical gene into a muggle, thereby making them a witch or wizard? Just a concept that has been on my mind for quite a while and I would dearly love to hear your thoughts on this. I think it is intriguing.
I don't think McGonnagle would have allowed one Gryffindor to torment or bully another Gryffindor for more than 3-4 months at most, but a Gryffindor doing that to a Slytherin? it would have just been seen as house Rivalry. there never really was any infighting within the houses but there was between the houses, mainly Slytherin and Gryffindor (to my knowledge)
Snape was a brave man and a hero very true..but teaching was NOT his calling, he was a horrible cruel teacher showed favoritism to Slytherins..and was horrible to Harry just because he didn't like James..cruel to a child for what his father had done..a father he had never truly even known
PipsKay Severus had reason to be a dick to Harry. He had to put on a charade. If he was nice then he wouldn't have been able to get close to Voldemort. Harry understood in the end.
Moody/Barty Crouch Jr proved to be a loyal death eater without having to verbally harass Harry every other minute. It wasn't just Harry that Snape was awful too.... For example: There was absolutely no reason to taunt Hermione's teeth, or attempt to stain Neville's reputation with new teachers but he did it anyways because was cruel to the kids.
@crap bag Rowling herself dismissed that claim and said that Snape was vindictive and bullying on Twitter. She also said that Snape projected his hatred and jealousy of James onto Harry.
PipsKay Not cruel - he clearly had very high standards, and was not prepared to lower them. I like that. A lot. And Harry is an Unreliable Narrator, who is biased against Snape. Who was almost certainly nowhere near as bad as Harry claims. We ought to remember that Harry is a child, whereas Snape is (1) a grown-up (2) whom Harry dislikes (3) and is a teacher (4) with authority over Harry. So Snape is very unlikely to be described in anything but an unfavourable way by Harry.
- Harry hadn't even said one word before Snape started condescending him and taking points of Gryffindor for no reason. - Yes, Harry is an unreliable narrator, so lets look at it from other character p.o.v: His entire class glares at him, Bill thinks he's a git, Dumbledore said "You disgust me", etc. - Mcgonangall has high standards... Snape has warped standards. Remember when he gave Harry a 0% on his potion, because SNAPE purposely dropped it. Or how about when he threatened him with illegal vertiserum when he wrongfully accused Harry of stealing ingredients when in reality it was Barty Crouch Jr, or when he tried to have Lupin's soul sucked out because of a schoolboy grudge, or when he tried to ban Harry from playing Quidditch because he happened to walk across a petrified student. Snape is very unlikely to be described in anything but an unfavourable way by Harry, because for 6 years Snape has been nothing but petty and cruel to him
Maybe James and Sirius wouldnt have bullied him if they were in The same house, he would be a little like remus, a little nerdy and reading alot Maybe they would have been alright, not friends but not enemies either
C Mineur They didn’t quit Hogwarts, they graduated, James and Lily were both Head Boy & Head Girl so no way they’d just leave school. They graduated in 1978.
I know this will be weird but..... I secretly wanted Harry to be Snape's son and Lily's....... WHAT!! I looooooove Snape Edit:i just realized how weird that sounds
How did voldemort's and dumbledore's wands make a stream of light while they were battling? i know it probably isn't in the book but idk, i have no read order of the pheonix in a while. but im just wondering how dumbledore and voldemort had a wand stream of light thingy
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i was wondering if you could give us your thoughts on what would happen if someone draws on the marauders map. i mean most of the time its just a piece of parchment.
I'm reminded of a radio interview between Whitley Strieber and Peter Levenda, where they were discussing dark occultism and the people who are attracted to it. At one point, Whitley pointed out that you go over to the dark side to gain knowledge and wisdom, not to live the life that the inhabitants of that realm would have you live. I think Snape understood this from a very early age. Lily and James, being of a more superficial mentality, could never have truly understood this. Which is why I think Lily and James would have always ended up together. They were simply a better match. But if they were all in the same house, perhaps the break up of Snape and Lilys friendship wouldn't have happened, or at least it wouldn't have been as traumatic for Snape.
Some disgusting person put a Confundus Charm on the Sorting Hat... What the Hat had actually meant was: "Potter James - Arrogant, Rude, a Bully... SLYTHERIN" "Snape Severus - Brave, Talented, Strong... GRYFFINDOR"...
what is bad if some one has interest in dark arts. Severus call lily mud blood because he was angry . but Ron weasly also angry on harry and said your parents are dead l just want to say such kind of thing is not responsible for going into houses
JK Rowling actually stated that Lily and Severus probably would have ended up together if he wasn't so interested in the dark arts as she didn't like it, she never allowed those feelings to happen.
Nah. not true.. Snape's last words were "You have your mother's eyes"... the "always" line came from the last bit of Snape's memory when he gave it to Harry just before he died (after he conjured a doe as his patronus, and Albus asked him "after all this time? " (in reference to his love for Lily)
This video just breaks my heart with how much truth there is to it. I too do believe that Severus would have still been badly bullied if he had been sorted into Gryffindor, even more so since he would have to have shred a dorm with them. The things they would have done to that poor boy in his sleep. :( although I don't believe his disliking for his father was the reason he was sorted into Slytherin. Severus wanted to be in Slytherin house because it's the house he know the most about, it was his mother's house, and the house were great witches and wizards came from. To me Severus joining the Death Eaters, one James and his gang were members of the order, and would have bullied the hell out of him if he had tried to join, as well as it would have broken his heard a hundred times a day at seeing James fluting Lily all day, two the Death Eaters were the only people that give him propose, he know many of the Death Eaters from school, and put trust into them not to lead him a stray into their pure-blood mania. I think Severus didn't like being a muggle, and Harry was the same way, but I don't 100% think he hated muggles, or was a pure-blood manic.
James and Sirius would have lesser reasons to bully Snape if he was their fellow Gryffindor. House prejudice was one the reasons they hated him. Remus would have talked them into accepting Snape like he did with Peter. James did mature and change as a person, so it's unfair to assume that he would have bullied the hell out of Snape if Snape was in the Order. Even JKR states on Pottermore that the Marauders gave up their immature Hogwarts stuff to focus on the war in the final few months of their 7th year.
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What if Snape was not killed by Voldemort, and he Seeked out harry during the Battle of Hogwarts? What would the conversation look like between the two? How would Snape convince harry he was on there side?
@TheRationalTurk SPOILER ALERT In an alternate timeline in the Cursed Child where Voldemort won the Battle of Hogwarts, Snape is still alive and teaching Potions under Headmistress Dolores Umbridge.
Alex Downs really? is that on the actual book or? i thought nagini bit and killed him (sorry, new potterhead)
That Mint Yes, Scorpius goes to him for help to retrieve the original timeline. When they come back from u doing what Scorpius did with the First Task, like in Half-Blood Prince, Snape (sorta) kills the Head of Hogwarts.
Mary Ampil Cursed child. Its weird. I know
@TheRationalTurk I sometimes have the same thoughts, I even think he could have been Albus Severus (from cursed child) godfather. If Snape convinces Harry he is on there side
Snape was million times skillfull wizard than any of those marauders. So what if he was interested in dark arts. He was just interested the limits of magic which dark magic provided him. It does not mean he is bad. I think in gryffindor under McGonagall and dumbledore's guidance he would have done wonderful.
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If snape was a jedi, he would practice the 7th form: vapaad.
It really depends on how you use magic. Even if some magic is not classified as Dark Arts, you can still cause harm using them. One perfect example is how James used Scourgify to chok Snape, given the spell was created for cleaning originally. Even the most innocent spells like Wingardium Leviosa could be misused, say you use the spell to smash a heavy object to someone's head causing concussion or other fatal brain damage. It was never the magic that is evil, it was the caster's intention. That's why I personally don't think practicing Dark Arts is "bad" or evil. If someone engage in the Dark Arts out of curiosity and ambition to be a powerful wizard, it's not a problem. It's a problem only when someone harms with magic, be it Dark Arts or non-Dark Arts.
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I would love to see a movie based on Severus growing up
They need to do a series on the first wizarding war era period! They have so much material to work with
I think it would be rated PG-17 or higher due to the fact that his father literally *tortured* him. And here's the thing: bigotry is horrible, but sometimes it's based on something. Snape's bigotry against muggles may have been due to the fact that his father was a muggle; that does not justify the bigotry, but at least it's not completely incomprehensible.
What if when Petunia had said "that boy" when explaining how she knew about Azkaban, and Harry told her to admit that it is was his father, she had instead replied with "No that Snape boy".
CornishCreamtea07 i think she would go no not your father. This boy was called Severus Snape i never heard from him again
Oh then Voldemort would have been suspicious of Snape. People don't seem to understand that if Snape did give Harry a chance then Death Eater spy would have reported everything back to Voldemort. Another thing to consider is that Harry's mind was open book. Yes it was also because he had part of Voldemort inside him.
I find it hard to believe that James would befriend Peter Petigrew but not Severus Snape. Even if they got off on the wrong foot before the sorting. I think they would eventually become friends since they have all their classes together and share a dorm room. James was prejudiced against Slytherins, so if Snape was is Gryffindor, James wouldn’t have hated him so much.
I love it! Nice one Dean!
Thank you! Can't wait for your next video man!
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But if Snape was in the same dorm as James and Sirius, isn't there a chance that they would eventually warm up to each other after J/S initially teasing him? I mean since James and Sirius would have had lesser reasons to hate a Gryffindor Snape. Their one encounter on the train wouldn't have sealed the fate of their relationship. Sometimes kids get off on the wrong foot but eventually become friends. Plus, Remus convinced James and Sirius to include Peter in their group and they listened to him because JKR said James and Sirius valued Remus' kindness. If Remus showed Snape the same kindness, J/S might have listened to him about Snape like they did about Peter.
That would be nice, Snape would have been a great member of the Marauders helping with the map and with his magical and potions skills.
Yeah. I don't think things would've been anywhere near as contentious between Snape and James if they'd gotten to know one another. James was picking on a nerdy kid from another house. It's entirely possible he would've chosen a different target if Snape'd been in Gryffindor.
@Dean Winchester Yeah:) He would have been better than that rat (Peter). I don't think he would have betrayed them if they were his best friends. It would have been nice if that rat Peter and him were switched between Gryffindor and Slyhterin.
@EmileeArsenic It wasn't just James that targeted, it was James AND Sirius. And they didn't target Snape because he was nerdy. It doesn't necessarily mean that James and Sirius would target one particular person without Snape in Slytherin. In HBP, Harry targeted Crabbe and Filch to test out the HBP spells. Harry targeted them because of their awful characters. It's likely that the people James and Sirius targeted were also similar (ie: Sytherins like Crabbe).
I love this idea. But don't forget, James hated the dark arts. He and Sirius would not like Severus at all. However, I do think that Lupin may have befriended Snape. He did befriend Peter, who would've been similar in social status to Snape; the lowest in the social hierarchy of the housr. I believe that Peter might have eventually befriended Snape through Lupin if he did not get in with the marauders. Although at first Peter would have felt uncomfortable around Snape and Snape may have looked down on Peter, they might eventually have formed some kind of friendship. I'd also like to think Snape and Lily would have stayed close and maybe he would have overcome his prejudices. That's just wishful thinking though, since the scars of a childhood of abuse don't just vanish over night.
The House Severus Snape most closely resembles other than Slytherin is Ravenclaw. He was innovative in his teaching and application of magic.
fugiapple96 hey took on the role of a double agent lying and risking his life everyday allowing everyone to think he was a monster. If that's not courage and loyalty then what is?
You raise a great point. Courage is akin to Gryffindor, while Hufflepuff is akin to loyalty. I may not have been explicit enough, but I was attempting to emphasize his intellect. His brilliance rivaled the likes of Tom Riddle to the point Voldemort would go to Snape directly for any questions he had. With that said, Snape was remarkably brave.
I think he would have made a remarkable Gryffindor and would have taken the place of Peter, It may have been a rough start but I fully believe he would have been Moony, Fork tongue, Padfoot, and Prong. But if it did go that way I could easily see Snape being asked to act as the double agent by the Order and agree in hopes of helping his friends. Under the guise of being jealous of James and Lily, He would have been a remarkable 2nd Godfather to Harry I say 2nd because he would have been Lily's choice.
@Tino Saldivar I agree:) I see Snape's animagus being a panther for some reason. It takes more than bravery to be Gryffindor I think. Even Tom Riddle showed a lot of bravery. Gryffindors are usually reckless and can be quite foolhardy in their bravery. Snape isn't reckless and I think he's usually more cautious/tactful in his moves which made him a great spy/ double agent.
Then Explain Hermione, I think they have a lot in common. Both brilliant and willing to go to the wall for there fiends even when those friends are mad at them or asking for something huge. Domador being the best example. He asked Snap for the hardest thing he could do. Plus I'm sure his animagus would be a snake. In my head I could see him chasing that rat Peter around. I could honestly see there roles switching around and Remus being the professor and Snape being framed for murder and Sirius spending his life trying to prove his friends innocents.
What if James Potter was sorted into Slytherin? He was arrogant, pure blooded, and a bully. Everything Draco was.
Shaden0040 , exactly!!
He was brave and not a pure blood supremistst though.
Bullying isn't a Slytherin trait. James wasn't cunning or bigoted like Draco. He showed much more bravery and chivalry than Draco. He's also reckless like a Gryffindor rather than tactful. But yes, he has the same Slytherin traits as Harry (disregard for the rules, determination, resourcefulness). Had he have been in Slytherin, Snape and him might have become friends or at least civil to each other. I assume James would have wanted friends in his dorm.
Shaden0040 The perfect Slytherin. No wonder Harry was so upset when he found out what his father was really like.
Draco was a cowardly, ignorant, and deluded bully. James faced death with his head held high, he became an illegal animagus so Remus wouldn't be alone, he took Sirius in after he ran away, he also took Lupin in because werwolves weren't able to find paying jobs.
He was awful to Snape, but Snape did laugh when his own gang bullied others. We saw ONE flashback from Snape's point of view... that is NOWHERE near enough for us to deduce if James was exactly like Draco.
Not to mention, he grew out his arrogant ways by seventh year then joined the Order and died for his wife and children.
so if severus's dad wasn't so horrible to him and his mom for having magical abilites he wouldn't be so quick to reject his muggle side because I think some of his issues stem from his dad's mistreatment of him and his mother
I think that if anything he'd be sorted into Ravenclaw.
I'm loving these 'What Ifs' lately, I'm hoping there's more to come.
Chiko was here dark and forbidden knowledge is still knowledge and knowledge is power
What if Regulus Black had survived?
Then the Black family line would not have been finished
Lara Oakley il
I would really like to hear this one please
Since you are all searching for that answer I would like to explain what I wanted to do..
I wanted to stay with the Dark Lord, not as a loyal servant but as someone to hear the information and maybe warn some people. I heard my friend Severus defected for a girl, I would have contacted him (profided I wasn't sentenced to Azkaban for my crimes) and figured out a way to protect her. My friend is dear to me and I can not put him through misery.
I would also have contacted my brother, he might not have liked Slytherins but he wanted to give me a chance, as long as I could show him some proof of my defection. If by chance I would have managed to survive in that cave, I would have shown him the locket. Now all that is there for him is a letter, written in a way to know I still care.
I do hope this clears things up, if you have any questions feel free to contact me,
Sincerely,
Regulus Black
Snape deserves a hug for what he's been through
What if Hagrid gave baby Harry to Sirius instead of taking him to the Dursleys?. I was rereading Prisoners of Az when I had this thought and the house of cards it would unleash
Sirius was not a blood relative (Petunia was his mother's sister), so Harry would not have had the benefit of that protection.
Katheryne Koelker I know. This is part of the house of cards would have been kicked off in my head.
When Hagrid went to rescue Harry he meet Sirius he asked Hagrid to give Harry to him as his Godfather. Hagrid refused due to following Dumbledors orders. However, what if Hagrid hadn't. Even if Dumbledor step in the next day would it be too late? What about Wormtail? There are what if questions here?
Also imagine being raised in a grief-stricken house of black
lqyzdm Would Sirius have been able to protect Harry? Sirius had been accused (by Peter, if I remember) of the Potters' death. The Ministry, if they found Sirius, would have taken Harry from Sirius.
lqyzdm Sirius had been sorted into Gryffindor and did not hold to the Black family views on blold purity.
I think in Snape's life Lily symbolized something good when all was strained at his home. But instead of their friendship developing into a healthy relationship for both of them Snape developed unriquited feeling for Lily and put her on a pedestal but as Lily grew up she changed and no longer fit into that pedestal and hence the rift between them. If Snape would have only accepted his friendship with Lily at it's face value, he wouldn't have been so lonely and may be it would have changed somethings for him.
Sirius and Severus would also become friends over hating their fathers (family)
I think Snape would have done better in Ravenclaw.
Snape is a better snake than eagle...remus is a perfect ravenclaw
yes but he would be a better eagle then lion.
Same
Ditto to the 10th power
Best case scenario I think that he wouldn't have fallen in with the Death Eaters, but he still would've hated James. Lily would still end up with James but her and Snape wouldn't grow apart, he'd just not get along with James.
But realistically, most likely your theory
What if James Potter was a Slytherin?
James was much more than just an arrogant bully. And he did mature out of it. Bullying is not a Slyhterin trait. He would have been in Slytherin because he disregarded rules, was determined, resourceful and had talent (all priced Slyhterin traits according to Dumbledore).
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Tasha9313 Then maybe harry's father is snape and then maybe harry was in slytherin
Very interesting vid. Snape is a person who "lives in inside his own head" and doesn't like people very much at all. Maybe I'm wrong, but I don't remember any of the Griffindors actually bullying each other. To me it seems that if Snape was sorted into Griffindor, Moony, Padfood, Wormtail and Prongs probably wouldn't have teased him at all, seeing Snape as a bookworm, and not very much fun.
Sometimes, when you look at what happened to Snape, you start to hate James a tad bit more
what if Lily was sorted in to slytherin. that might be a game changer (sorry if you already have a video like that)
What If Peter Pettigrew Was Sorted Into Slytherin?
What if Dumbldore used the pensive to show Harry’s memory of the graveyard.
If he was sorted into Griffindor, he would probably get married to Lily and not get bullied that much by the Maurauders.
I don't think Severus did truly subscribe to the blood prejudice ideology, he had a low opinion of muggles sure thanks to his father but I really do not think he was as opposed to them as one may think. Being sorted into Slytherin thereby subsequently separated from Lily and surrounded by future Death Eaters increased Snape's desire for acknowledgement and greatness to unhealthy lengths. In my mind, that day he called Lily a mudblood was not due to genuine prejudice but simply irrational anger and the bad influence people like Avery, Mulciber and Malfoy had on him.
If he were sorted into Gryffindor, the more positive aspects of his personality would begin to flourish and subsequently reshape him into quite a different character which is why I have to respectfully disagree with a few things on this video as it is very much of the mentality that Snape would still show such little growth. I definitely think the Marauders would still bully Snape but as time went on and Severus developed into the brave, loyal, strong and admirable man we have seen him capable of being in Canon I do think they would eventually see Snape not as some greasy git but as a fellow housemate and a respectable wizard and human being. As for Lily, Rowling herself once stated that whole issue could be boiled down to the fact Snape at the end of the day had to choose between the Dark Arts or Lily and as we all know in Canon he chose quite poorly but here there's no reason for Snily not to happen in this scenario as I will explain.
Had he been in Gryffindor I do truly believe Snape would've been surrounded by the positivity he was so desperately starved of as a child. The sad truth is Snape was an emotionally damaged time bomb of a child and being put in the same house as people like Lucius Malfoy and literal Death Eaters in training (not all Slytherins but lets face it a lot of them) did no good for him. But remove those bad influences and the appeal of the Dark Arts is diminished massively because Snape would be able to maintain his strong friendship with Lily much better here with no problem and that would blossom into a romance I do think. James while not nearly as horrible as fans sometimes portray him is still an arrogant bully and he only underwent his attitude change during his last years at Hogwarts while Severus and Lily's relationship dynamic which dates back to Pre-Hogwarts and has had so much time to develop unstrained so I cannot in good conscience say Jily triumphs in this what-if.
Long and short of it, Gryffindor Snape would've been very different to Canon Snape in that he would have been put in an environment that encouraged the best aspects of his personality and completely rewritten his story and overall...he would just be happier.
I think him and Remus would get along, Remus was attracted towards the outcasts which is why he took a shine towards Peter, he would’ve probably become really good friends with him and even prevented James and Sirius Bullying Him and told them to be nicer to him
Snape would get so angry at James as a death eater that he'd even kill him in the first wizarding war.
It is possible that if she was vitalising them bullying Snape on a regular basis, she would of never grown to like James.
I believe Harry would have died had Severus not learned the Dark Arts. It's because he did that Harry had a fighting chance.
What if snape was part of the marauders?
That would have been fascinating.
Nice idea my friend
Voldemort would've been more suspicious of him and the plan between Snape and Dumbledore likely would've failed and with it the second wizarding war would be lost.
Jakby Snejpa przydzielono do Gryffindoru to może byłby jednym z Huncwotów i nie miałby wstrętu do szlam. Jakby był z Lily to James wywaliłby go z paczki...
Nie obchodzi Cię kim jestem? Sorry mate I don't speak foreign
What if Draco Malfoy went to Durmstrang like his father wanted him to?
Alex Downs YES.
Alex Downs That would be awesome...
I think a more realistic scenario would be lily in hufflepuff and snape in ravenclaw
What if percy weasley was sorted into slytherin
I actually disagree with you Remus is also a half blood and a also felt isolated. I do think that they could a started a friendship. James and Sirius aren't the only people in dorms. I actually think that Sirius wouldn't have cared about Severus half as much if he was a Gryffindor. I do agree that James and Lily would still end up together but thats all
True, Remus would have been kind to him. Pottermore said that James and Sirius took a shine to Remus because of his kindness and listened to him about including Peter. They might have listened to him about Snape too. James and Sirius would have lesser reasons to hate Snape if he was Slytherin, so the 3 boys might have warmed up to each other after initial coldness, being in the same dorm and everything.
I believe the Marauders would be less of a bullies towards Snape, but more like bitter rivals toward each other, especially James and Snape, because they share the same crush towards Lily.
I agree with you completely. Snape would certainly not been the most popular person in Griffindor, but Snape is not a people person, is he? Yes, James and Lily would have ended up together, and Snape would probably just as heartbroken and resentful of James.
This is assuming that Snape doesn't get the same development arc as Neville Longbottom. Over the course of Neville's Hogwarts schooling, he went from someone who looked to have been destined for Hufflepuff to as pure a Gryffindor as Harry Potter himself. I would think that during his schooling, a Gryffindor Severus Snape would have had his Slytherin traits boiled away, possibly resulting in Snape replacing Pettigrew as one of the messers on the Marauder's Map.
I wonder what his nickname would've been.
I suspect he would become a bat, so something like fangs or wings, I guess.
I have a question. If a hourcrux from someone like Tom Riddle, who has the ability to talk snake, can make the person living with a hourcrux inside them make them speak to snakes, then what will happen if a wizard made a hourcrux and put it inside a muggle or squib? Will they have the ability to do magic?
P.S.: I will be coping this commenting this in every video so you can see it.
Eduardo Miranda probably.they will be live Muggle born but will make everyone near him hate him
What if Salazar Slytherin never left Hogwarts
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DID YOU KNOW!? THAT LILY WAS PREGNANT WITH HER SECOND CHILD WHEN VOLDEMORT KILLED HER! Even worse, she had finally convinced James to make peace with Severus, and wanted him to be her second born's godfather. Now we can all cry together! NOW YOU KNOW!😫😭😢😩😧😦😭😭😭😭😭😢😢😢😢
your videos are great!!!
Very good one, Dean!!!!! Could you consider a video that explores the concept of a spell or artifact that could implant the magical gene into a muggle, thereby making them a witch or wizard? Just a concept that has been on my mind for quite a while and I would dearly love to hear your thoughts on this. I think it is intriguing.
According to Rowling
That the Sorting hat made 7 mistakes
One of them is putting Severus Snape in Slytherin
Finally been requesting this for ages :D
Could you do Where did dumbledore go when he was going to be arrested in the order of the phoenix
Omg!!!!! I suggested this video to him on a live chat!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I cant get over this
James and Sirius were rude to him because he was hoping they’d both be in slytherin tho right?
I don't think McGonnagle would have allowed one Gryffindor to torment or bully another Gryffindor for more than 3-4 months at most, but a Gryffindor doing that to a Slytherin? it would have just been seen as house Rivalry. there never really was any infighting within the houses but there was between the houses, mainly Slytherin and Gryffindor (to my knowledge)
Snape was a brave man and a hero very true..but teaching was NOT his calling, he was a horrible cruel teacher showed favoritism to Slytherins..and was horrible to Harry just because he didn't like James..cruel to a child for what his father had done..a father he had never truly even known
PipsKay Severus had reason to be a dick to Harry. He had to put on a charade. If he was nice then he wouldn't have been able to get close to Voldemort. Harry understood in the end.
Moody/Barty Crouch Jr proved to be a loyal death eater without having to verbally harass Harry every other minute.
It wasn't just Harry that Snape was awful too.... For example:
There was absolutely no reason to taunt Hermione's teeth, or attempt to stain Neville's reputation with new teachers but he did it anyways because was cruel to the kids.
@crap bag Rowling herself dismissed that claim and said that Snape was vindictive and bullying on Twitter. She also said that Snape projected his hatred and jealousy of James onto Harry.
PipsKay Not cruel - he clearly had very high standards, and was not prepared to lower them. I like that. A lot. And Harry is an Unreliable Narrator, who is biased against Snape. Who was almost certainly nowhere near as bad as Harry claims. We ought to remember that Harry is a child, whereas Snape is
(1) a grown-up
(2) whom Harry dislikes
(3) and is a teacher
(4) with authority over Harry.
So Snape is very unlikely to be described in anything but an unfavourable way by Harry.
- Harry hadn't even said one word before Snape started condescending him and taking points of Gryffindor for no reason.
- Yes, Harry is an unreliable narrator, so lets look at it from other character p.o.v: His entire class glares at him, Bill thinks he's a git, Dumbledore said "You disgust me", etc.
- Mcgonangall has high standards... Snape has warped standards. Remember when he gave Harry a 0% on his potion, because SNAPE purposely dropped it. Or how about when he threatened him with illegal vertiserum when he wrongfully accused Harry of stealing ingredients when in reality it was Barty Crouch Jr, or when he tried to have Lupin's soul sucked out because of a schoolboy grudge, or when he tried to ban Harry from playing Quidditch because he happened to walk across a petrified student.
Snape is very unlikely to be described in anything but an unfavourable way by Harry, because for 6 years Snape has been nothing but petty and cruel to him
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Snape should have been in Hufflepuff I think
Harry Potter described him not as "one of the bravest man" but as "the bravest man he ever knew"
Maybe James and Sirius wouldnt have bullied him if they were in The same house, he would be a little like remus, a little nerdy and reading alot Maybe they would have been alright, not friends but not enemies either
I can’t think of a video idea so imma just sit here quietly 😁
Interesting video and I love that pic at 3:00 do you have a link to it?
I love the new theories!
he will be the greatest wizard of all time. 😉
Can't you do a vid about Lilly and James since they both quit Hogwarts 1978 and they died 1981 what did they do between? What did Sirius Black do.
C Mineur They didn’t quit Hogwarts, they graduated, James and Lily were both Head Boy & Head Girl so no way they’d just leave school. They graduated in 1978.
I know this will be weird but.....
I secretly wanted Harry to be Snape's son and Lily's.......
WHAT!! I looooooove Snape
Edit:i just realized how weird that sounds
How did voldemort's and dumbledore's wands make a stream of light while they were battling? i know it probably isn't in the book but idk, i have no read order of the pheonix in a while. but im just wondering how dumbledore and voldemort had a wand stream of light thingy
You should make a video what if James was a slytherin or what if Sirius was in slytherin
What if Snape had bought shampoo?
Centaurs Apocalypse His hair would not be as long
Hey can u do a video of a theory that Is Mason Greyback from Wizards of Waverly Place related to Fenrir Greyback as they both are werewolves and they both are British!???Plz!!??
Raj Nath I love that show
YES! I was (am) going to do a video on this in the future once I do more research I have been thinking about this sense I finished the show
If Snape would be in Gryffindor, he would not only get bullied by the Marauders but also by the Slytherin gang.
I like this video and thank you
i was wondering if you could give us your thoughts on what would happen if someone draws on the marauders map. i mean most of the time its just a piece of parchment.
Now, what if ginny got sorted into slytherin
Brilliant video
I'm reminded of a radio interview between Whitley Strieber and Peter Levenda, where they were discussing dark occultism and the people who are attracted to it. At one point, Whitley pointed out that you go over to the dark side to gain knowledge and wisdom, not to live the life that the inhabitants of that realm would have you live. I think Snape understood this from a very early age. Lily and James, being of a more superficial mentality, could never have truly understood this. Which is why I think Lily and James would have always ended up together. They were simply a better match. But if they were all in the same house, perhaps the break up of Snape and Lilys friendship wouldn't have happened, or at least it wouldn't have been as traumatic for Snape.
Ayyy, he used my idea! :D :D :D
I’ve been waiting for this thank you 🖤
Honestly I really ship snape and lily
song?
i would have made a good father
Some disgusting person put a Confundus Charm on the Sorting Hat... What the Hat had actually meant was:
"Potter James - Arrogant, Rude, a Bully... SLYTHERIN"
"Snape Severus - Brave, Talented, Strong... GRYFFINDOR"...
What if Victor Krum had resisted Barty Crouch Jr's Imperious Curse?
I think James would have thought of him less as "Snivellus, the little Slytherin punk" and more like "that creepy weird kid that Lily hangs out with".
What house was Dumbeldor
Interesting analysis
The music 😱❤️
How about a video where Severus & Lily do end up together?
what is bad if some one has interest in dark arts. Severus call lily mud blood because he was angry . but Ron weasly also angry on harry and said your parents are dead l just want to say such kind of thing is not responsible for going into houses
Please I want this start up music when it shows the Harry Potter folklore logo
You weren't even explaining what would happen if Snape was sorted into Gryffindor
JK Rowling actually stated that Lily and Severus probably would have ended up together if he wasn't so interested in the dark arts as she didn't like it, she never allowed those feelings to happen.
Fun Fact: Lily and Snape died saying the same words, "Always" (I saw this in Pintrest, don't hate if this is not true)
Nah. not true.. Snape's last words were "You have your mother's eyes"... the "always" line came from the last bit of Snape's memory when he gave it to Harry just before he died (after he conjured a doe as his patronus, and Albus asked him "after all this time? " (in reference to his love for Lily)
Anyone else see the titles for these videos and think "that was such a common sense question, why didn't I think of that?" 😂
If snape was sorted in gryffindor maybe James and Sirius wouldn’t bully him.
video suggestion: you should do a video on "what if Voldemort had never tried to kill harry"
2:15 I wouldn’t say that Snape was creepy. I’d say he was just different, like everybody.
If you ask me, Severus Snape would've made a great Ravenclaw student.
Where do you get all this info?
What if voldemort disarmed and killed Dumbledore in the astronomy tower?
Bruh i love how Albus Potter was sorted in slytherin 💚💚💚
This video just breaks my heart with how much truth there is to it.
I too do believe that Severus would have still been badly bullied if he had been sorted into Gryffindor, even more so since he would have to have shred a dorm with them. The things they would have done to that poor boy in his sleep. :(
although I don't believe his disliking for his father was the reason he was sorted into Slytherin. Severus wanted to be in Slytherin house because it's the house he know the most about, it was his mother's house, and the house were great witches and wizards came from. To me Severus joining the Death Eaters, one James and his gang were members of the order, and would have bullied the hell out of him if he had tried to join, as well as it would have broken his heard a hundred times a day at seeing James fluting Lily all day, two the Death Eaters were the only people that give him propose, he know many of the Death Eaters from school, and put trust into them not to lead him a stray into their pure-blood mania.
I think Severus didn't like being a muggle, and Harry was the same way, but I don't 100% think he hated muggles, or was a pure-blood manic.
James and Sirius would have lesser reasons to bully Snape if he was their fellow Gryffindor. House prejudice was one the reasons they hated him. Remus would have talked them into accepting Snape like he did with Peter. James did mature and change as a person, so it's unfair to assume that he would have bullied the hell out of Snape if Snape was in the Order. Even JKR states on Pottermore that the Marauders gave up their immature Hogwarts stuff to focus on the war in the final few months of their 7th year.
Please do a video about how first years buy their robes when they don't know there house
You really want to sell those t-shirts