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I have always used red line with great success. Amsoil would be my 2nd choice. For folks that are running gdi systems this should be a part of your daily maintenance. Great video sir! 👍🇨🇦
Project Farm did similar testing inside a lawnmower engine, and only the Berryman made the spark plugs look cleaner. People have also said they got good results from the Royal Purple Maxlife for cleaning dirty fuel injectors.
Since they all did pretty well, then price becomes the biggest differentiator. You can do 5 B-12 treatments for the price of 1 BG, so for the same price, the B-12 would be better.
So id imagine the heat from the engine, along with the cleaners, would make a huge difference. Just soaking them cold works but not like adding a 200 degree engine
Redline. My 05 envoy had a rough idle and would almost shut off when ac was on. I ttied everything. Finally i ran a bottle of redline and it smoothed right out. Im guessing it had some stopped up injectors maybe. No other fuel system cleaner helped. I thought it was bs until i used it. Hands down the best
I used Berryman in my 26 year old Jeep Wrangler with the 4 litre engine.. What a difference one can made. I was even more impressed when you consider the price......
Thanks for your video. Here's a thought for an improvement. Weigh each sparkplug before and after each treatment. Let them become perfectly dry of course. The difference in weight will represent how much carbon is removed. Still not a perfect test but it would be less subjective.
@@WhipCityWrencher I tested 2 cheap mini electrical scales and one of them worked perfectly for your project. You should get a scale that labels a precision of 0.01 gram. Here is my lesson. Do not believe those claim precision of 0.01 gram and weigh high than 0-500 g, the broader range, the less precise. I tried a 0-200 g one and tested it with distilled water and a medical syringe. The best result was 0.98 g for 1.00 ml. The weight was between 0.93-0.98 and the average was 0.952 g. Considering the residual in the syringe or manual error, I think that is an ideal scale for your project.
In your video, I noticed within one hour the Berryman B12 took chunks off the plug, versus the others. Secondly, Redline showed a heavy cloud, followed by Amsoil PI. I guess the point is to utilize these cleaners consistently for meaningful results. Thanks for the video. Very educational!
The point is for these particles to be suspended and burned and exhausted from system. Such as an injector micro screen (top of injector) instead of build up and clog. Heat also adds to the cleaning of Redline SL1
I've used berrymans for 30 years and has always worked for me.... Price is probably the lowest. Need to run them through the gas tank for the best test.
I’m redline customer and very happy with it. I’m a VW Atlas (DI VR6)and Lexus ES (D-4S A25A-FKS) owner. I also used this on my Infiniti QX70 (MPI VQ37) and never had issues with carbon build up or any fuel related problems. The Atlas bought new in 2019, Lexus bought new 2021 Infiniti bought certified used 2019
Redline looks pretty good, but I think it boils down to price. The BG makes a lot of claims and is very expensive compared to the others, the BG is $25 - $30 a bottle.
Great video in detail and camera work. It looks as if Redline was the most effective. After the Redline it looks as if second place was almost a tie. I agree though I thought that these fuel injector cleaners would be more effective. Thanks again!
I like the way Redline was more of a cloud then chunks. Easier to dispose of the cloudy fuel through the engine. Regular use of the Redline (or any cleaner) would have those deposits removed but definitely prefer Redline after the way it dissolved the carbon for sure.
i use amsoil at work and have had great success with it, i use it on small engines in golf carts and we have lots of carb issues as they get stored over winter. i think that heat and vibration would show a difference
Just from a visual perspective, it seems to me the Redline did the best. However, the method you used isn't a realistic application. Honestly, I don't know how you'd accomplish that. These cleaners were designed to be active in the combustion process. All that being said, I've been using Berryman's since the 90s at every oil change and have never been disappointed. Thanks for the great videos.
@@crayshaunhenderson1265 i use Berryman's at every oil change. I put one can in the crankcase, run it to operating temp, then change my oil. Then, I put a can in the next tank after the oil change. Been doing that for about 20 years.
Just bought some Redline for $15.99 at Advance Auto. It was actually recommended to me by an Auto Zone employee when I asked him what the best stuff was.
B12 don't like particles a few of them had some can cause restrictions in carburator. 1st place winner Redline, then 2nd Cumout is the winner if your looking at cost. But in the long run cost of gas & fuel system ? 🤔👍Redline nice clip
It would appear that whichever bowl is the dirtiest produce the best results. If that being true? Then the best results would be determined by the darkest bowl with the most discoloration to the lightest. 1. Redline 2. Amsoil 3. BG44 4.Gumout 5. B-12
Or which spark plug was dirtiest which makes this not a proper test all the spark plugs in this video came off of different vehicles so this test is not an accurate test but nevertheless I appreciate the video
With B-12 being so cheap I wonder if you put 2 cans in one tank full if it would make a difference. With 2 cans it would still be 1/3 the price of Redline. Good job, thanks.
Working in a Mobil terminal, an employee put one pint of Mobil's concentrated additive (would treat 500 gal of gas) in his tank. By the time he drove home his car was burning oil, kicking out blue smoke, the additives took all lubrication off the cylinder walls. He had to call Mobil's lab in Fairfax VA to find out what to do to get his car back to normal. So be careful how much you add.
I say Redline did the best cleaning in this video but I would also like to see Redline and Amsoil up against Lucas Fuel System Cleaner. Thank you...California!
I have a GDI Kia and the manual says to put in Chevron Techron. Would like to see Redline vs Techron. The KIA dealer uses BG44k to clean out engines ....as well as a mechanic down the street. I use Techron but was seeing your results with Redline...so I will use that in my Dodge minivan with 160 K miles. It only get 17 MPG mixed and mecahnic says it needs to be de carbonized to get better.
Here's one with Techron in it but without the Redline, link is below. Let me know if you see any improvement after you run the Redline through. Probably best to do a couple of tank fulls of the stuff. Hope it helps and Thanks for sharing!👍 studio.ruclips.net/user/video7qDh7DM2AAc/edit
I know this was recorded long time ago, but I would say that the most aggressive is not necessarily the best, as it could be harmful for other internal parts.
It looks like Red Line dissolved the most gunk. It would be interesting to test BG 44K vs. Amsoil because they both seem to work well and are closely matched. Great video! 👍👍
If I had to pick from viewing this video alone, I'd choose Redline, it didn't seem to scrub off carbon chunks like the other ones did. Those chunks could make things problematic, like clogging fuel filters faster or obstructing injectors.
Seeing the others break chunks off was good and bad, good it works but big chunks could cause problem or stick downstream. The redline properly dissolved it and looks like it woukd pass easier downstream.
Thanks, what has been your findings & in yiur Vehicles….? I running, 2015 JOURNEY 4 CYL, *& 2007 GMC Canyon 4 CYL(** interestingly just done***** TECHRON (pea hopefully)FUEL INJ Clean, ***with “no Ethanol HIGH Test Gas”, some three tankfuls**==== about 2-3****mpg increase during three tankfuls observations!; close observations..…@141,000 miles,Though also, changed TO PUROLATER BOSS OIL FILTER ( normally NAPA GILD, WIX)…?.. interestingly, DODGE Dealer uses BGK44 RECIMMENDED,.. I have had no,real issues with Dodge @90,000 , occasionally using RED LINE AS routine several moth Peeiods…..BIT OF STUMBLING(??) now…….
@@opera93 I just run a bottle of it right before an oil change and that's it. From what I understand its too powerful to run all the time unless of course you're only running a few ounces per tankful. I also remove and clean the throttle body every 30K miles or so. Between the two it keeps the fuel system clean.
redline cleans out the fuel tank and the fuel system right? and the fuel injector cleaner cleans the fuel injectors i wonder if you can mixed them together so you can kill 2 birds one stone
In my opinion: You realize that you're attempting to do analysis of fuel system cleaners on ignition parts don't you? Some if those cleaners are heat activated like Amsoil PI. So the crud comes off with the power stroke. So they boost octane to do it. It probably doesn't matter what one you use. Very few passenger vehicles have 21 gallon fuel tanks making the dosing extra strength at the get go. I never seen any particular fuel system cleaner make such a profound change with seriously neglected leaky injectors to say it's even worth paying extra.
redline, tie for second 44K and PI, Regain in 3rd, and B12 didn't do squat. Would help if we could see the plugs in the after shot. I'm going by dirt in the bowl. Personally deposits in the combustion chamber isn't a concern of mine, clogged injector nozzles is. I always dump 2 bottles of 44k in the tank (19 gallons) before a road trip.
Videos are great, they’re addictive, help people pick the right products for them, and are plain ass super basic which I appreciate. I see others saying “weigh” the plugs and yes sounds great, but what if also you made a contraption that would allow you to individually house maybe 6 plugs at once in their own little space, while in a ultra sonic clearer. That’d be nice to see, cause I know when cleaning injectors, sht makes for easy work.
Your testing method is a bit rough, but I think that before/after photo's for each and let them dry off before showing. Also I would suggest a light brushing with a toothbrush both before and after you do the treatments to simulate the vibration and air flow w/in the engine vs just assuming that the carbon will fall off on its own. Thanks, Ken.
Also test against the Lucas and Supertech cleaners(the 1 Qt bottles fuel treatment which has PEA in them). That stuff will actually work on fouled diesel injectors with a double dose in a full tank run.
Good Test. TY. Let the other commenters weigh in but my 2cents is place one in just gas as a control and the others in just the respective cleaners. Looks like red line did the best in this case.
Well I'm going to drop some nuggets and gems for everyone use gumout rogaine complete fuel system cleaner and 4 Oz of marvel mystery oil every fill up and the mechanic shops will be mad at you 😂😂😂💯👍, that'll the best combo for old and high miles vehicles
I have a 2010 Nissan Titan V8 started using seafoam I can feel slight increase in power but your video redline looks pretty good thinking of maybe switching oh by the way dealership told me to replace spark plugs every 100,000 miles Can’t wait for your next video
For spark plugs remember they’re not submerged in cleaner. What I would do, coat them with a cleaner.. reinstall the plugs and let them sit for a few hours, start the engine, give it a few revs then pull them again. A lot of cleaners going through the fuel system rely on the pressure, heat, etc generated to get the loose carbon removed. Personally, B12 has given me good results in classics but I also use their carb cleaner. For modern engines, never found a need to use a cleaner unless it was in the crankcase right before an oil change, and for that I just do the sea foam route
I have been using Gumout for over 45 years have never had any internal engine issues....Also i've used i qt of Rislone in every oil change for about the same amount of time ....again never any internal engine isues
Although I get the impression that Red-Line and Amsoil did a slightly better job, this test did/cannot represent actual conditions of a heated combustion process of which may fair better. So my thoughts are to use and soak the plugs in a full strength concentrated product over the course of say...7 days and make a daily inspection and then put them back in the bowl! This may reveal a slightly better result and thus possibly give some hope to what a driver may expect if using a product over a few tankful's????? In theory, if a concentrated product works then the diluted product should work! As an alternate test, you could rig up a high temp test stand and boil the concentration that you have diluted in this video and see if the heat accelerates the cleaning process. Use covered steam table and not open flame please! 😱 😎 Don't tell the wife, she will have you steaming veggies for dinner 🤣
Although your points are all valid, I wouldn't totally discount this test. For one, it showed that all of them (except redline) produced carbon chunks, which could be something to think about when you consider the possible risk to the fuel filter and injectors.
I wish you had checked to see which of them actually ignite and burn. I think the Project Farm tests showed only the B12 actually ignited and the rest wouldn't. I may be wrong about none of the others igniting.
You are probably correct, I did try putting them on white plates before to see which ones burn cleaner but they would not ignite. I can't remember which ones I tested, but I scrapped that idea.
My question is, if i remember correctly, Berryman products have Methanol in them. Now i believe many car companies do not recommend using Methanol in your gas, which is why Ethanol is at the gas station. So if true, what gives with that ? Is it because its diluted ?
I'm no scientist so I dont know what makes Berrymans B12 so good but it is some strong stuff. Here's a link to their ingredients. www.berrymanproducts.com/assets/3A-5M-0112-1112-1165.pdf
I wonder if injector cleaners would work better spraying them in the intake before the injectors IN ADDITION to putting them in the tank. This way you can potentially clean the outside of the injector as well as the inside...
Very hard decision . I would go for the redline as the bowel looked it had done a better job . Then the amsoil .the rest of the others not so good. ..plus I would use NGK plugs if I had a petrol car ...
I like (and use) Redline, but, why does the spark plug from the redline look different than all the others (6:30+ mark)? If that plug came from a different vehicle it would have different carbon build up characteristics and different cleaning requirements. Is this a proper test?
Looks like Redline and B-12 did the best, with maybe Redline doing the best? It's hard to tell. Especially since this isn't how it would actually be used in the vehicle. But, yeah, that redline seems quite powerful. I personally am running some B-12 in my car at the moment so that's why I'm here. I don't pick favorites just because it's something I have. I pick what I think appears to do the best, then I'll use that next time. I may give the Redline a shot in another 3-4k miles. I also run MMO with every tank of fuel I run, but just the "recommended" amount. I know it has cleaner in it, but I primarily use it for the lubrication. IMO, it's practically Lucas UCL with 30% of it being cleaning additives. But, anyways, car has been running like crap. It's either a bad ECU, something bad in the EVAP system or a vacuum leak... or a combination of these things. Not sure. Maybe even a blown headgasket, I dunno. Anyways, I noticed my car has been smoking on start up since adding the B-12... and I can only hope that's from blowing out crud after adding it to the fuel. I put a full bottle into the tank with 13-14 gallons of gas in the tank. Time will tell.
The way this stuff works has something to do with heat and compression. It is a dynamic process not a static lay in a bowl process. It is possible to make the cleaner so strong that it will clean the plugs just laying in a bowl ( in 15 minutes) but will also destroy the O rings and seals with it. Not this simple.
I am not sure but I think that those types of cleaning agents get activated by heat so when they get injected inside the combustion chamber they get heated up and reacte with the carbon, if somebody knows exactly how it works, hit me, I liked to know the science behind that.
Yes, I don't have a full physiological explanation, but heat does matter. The additives help to "burn off" the deposits. Most of the time with heavy carbon deposits, you can take a plumbers torch to get it hot, then easily brush deposits off.
So you are right, most chemical reactions need either energy (from heat or other source) or an enzyme. Typically though, if you give something a ton of time the reactions eventually do occur with the exceptions of reactions that require activation energy. Just like "cold" brewing coffee takes 72 hours but "hot" brewing coffee takes 2 minutes. Therefore in theory if you let these things soak for days it might become comparable to running it in an engine. Maybe not.
Would bg44k work on my 2007 civic? I’ve added another brand 4k miles ago see no difference I get about 115 miles from empty to full tank I got new spark plugs my mechanic told me to check my injectors….
JMHO, If your problem is dirty injectors the BG44K should help. The Berryman B12 also works well and costs a lot less. Two cans of Berrymans would do a good cleaning also.
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Redline and BG44K
Why waste your money with the 44k when the Redline easily did the best? It’s much more expensive and didn’t perform as well
@@meaculpamishegasyes you are right. Redline looks like it did much better than all of the others.
I have to say as an auto mechanic, I have to state that Redline & BG44K did the best soak cleaning. Doug
REDLINE hands down!!!
I have always used red line with great success. Amsoil would be my 2nd choice. For folks that are running gdi systems this should be a part of your daily maintenance. Great video sir! 👍🇨🇦
Thank You!
@@WhipCityWrencher
Redline has the most PEA along with Chevron.
Have you done a test with Techron ?
@@dfls5069 Here's one with Techron in it. ruclips.net/video/7qDh7DM2AAc/видео.html&ab_channel=WhipCityWrencher
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That's techron fuel injector cleaner, the high PEA concentration is in the fuel treatment
@WD-tr7pq 💯 % Sorry that's what I meant by daily. Just before every oil change.
I have used Chevron and BG44 and now I use Redline. It works the best for me. Thank you for you time.
Hi Aero,
Thanks for sharing!👍
damn really redline
@@topg3200 Red Line!
Project Farm did similar testing inside a lawnmower engine, and only the Berryman made the spark plugs look cleaner. People have also said they got good results from the Royal Purple Maxlife for cleaning dirty fuel injectors.
Thanks for the feedback👍
Since they all did pretty well, then price becomes the biggest differentiator. You can do 5 B-12 treatments for the price of 1 BG, so for the same price, the B-12 would be better.
So id imagine the heat from the engine, along with the cleaners, would make a huge difference. Just soaking them cold works but not like adding a 200 degree engine
BG is a 3 step process for an injection service in my shop I. Tried a few and BG made such difference people came back for it
Redline. My 05 envoy had a rough idle and would almost shut off when ac was on. I ttied everything. Finally i ran a bottle of redline and it smoothed right out. Im guessing it had some stopped up injectors maybe. No other fuel system cleaner helped. I thought it was bs until i used it. Hands down the best
Thanks for sharing your experience.
I'm not so worried about prices as long as they do what they say it will do. From what I observed, Redline and BG44K.
I used Berryman in my 26 year old Jeep Wrangler with the 4 litre engine.. What a difference one can made. I was even more impressed when you consider the price......
I wanna out the b-12 in my ford thunderbird and see if it helps
Helped my 1998 F-150 150K B-12 bottle once a month 🤙😎 Also Marvel Mystery Oil every fill up 4oz each 10 gallons ✅💡.
5 $ and change wal mart
Thanks for your video. Here's a thought for an improvement. Weigh each sparkplug before and after each treatment. Let them become perfectly dry of course. The difference in weight will represent how much carbon is removed. Still not a perfect test but it would be less subjective.
Glad you liked the video and thanks for the suggestion.
I will have to look into that, I would need a very precise and accurate scale.
Redline
@@WhipCityWrencher I tested 2 cheap mini electrical scales and one of them worked perfectly for your project. You should get a scale that labels a precision of 0.01 gram. Here is my lesson. Do not believe those claim precision of 0.01 gram and weigh high than 0-500 g, the broader range, the less precise. I tried a 0-200 g one and tested it with distilled water and a medical syringe. The best result was 0.98 g for 1.00 ml. The weight was between 0.93-0.98 and the average was 0.952 g. Considering the residual in the syringe or manual error, I think that is an ideal scale for your project.
@@breezeli6233 Thanks for the suggestion!👍
I’ve used all the ones you tested and redline is definitely the best. Awesome video.
Thank You! Glad you liked the video😊
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You should have a gas only test bowl as a baseline.......
In your video, I noticed within one hour the Berryman B12 took chunks off the plug, versus the others. Secondly, Redline showed a heavy cloud, followed by Amsoil PI. I guess the point is to utilize these cleaners consistently for meaningful results. Thanks for the video. Very educational!
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The point is for these particles to be suspended and burned and exhausted from system. Such as an injector micro screen (top of injector) instead of build up and clog. Heat also adds to the cleaning of Redline SL1
I've used berrymans for 30 years and has always worked for me.... Price is probably the lowest. Need to run them through the gas tank for the best test.
I’m redline customer and very happy with it. I’m a VW Atlas (DI VR6)and Lexus ES (D-4S A25A-FKS) owner. I also used this on my Infiniti QX70 (MPI VQ37) and never had issues with carbon build up or any fuel related problems. The Atlas bought new in 2019, Lexus bought new 2021 Infiniti bought certified used 2019
B12 Chemtool all day every day. Nothing makes your vehicle run stronger than Berryman. Pour it and Floor it!
It is strong stuff
Redline looks pretty good, but I think it boils down to price. The BG makes a lot of claims and is very expensive compared to the others, the BG is $25 - $30 a bottle.
I have used redline complete fuel system cleaner and it seem to work the best. I liked amsoil PI before they switched to the red bottle.
so the redline is the truth huh cause i want to put a cleaner in my car as soon as possible
what about the red bottle made you ...implying you might not like it as much?
Great video in detail and camera work. It looks as if Redline was the most effective. After the Redline it looks as if second place was almost a tie. I agree though I thought that these fuel injector cleaners would be more effective. Thanks again!
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I like the way Redline was more of a cloud then chunks. Easier to dispose of the cloudy fuel through the engine. Regular use of the Redline (or any cleaner) would have those deposits removed but definitely prefer Redline after the way it dissolved the carbon for sure.
A control with only gasoline would be an interesting comparison as well.
Hi Danny,
Here's one I did with gasoline. ruclips.net/video/oqnClAZtr1I/видео.html&ab_channel=WhipCityWrencher
@@WhipCityWrencher Awesome! Thank you!
I would say redline did the best! As far as second place I believe either amsoil or bg44. It's hard to really say as there isn't a lot of difference
Yeah, they were pretty close.
i use amsoil at work and have had great success with it, i use it on small engines in golf carts and we have lots of carb issues as they get stored over winter. i think that heat and vibration would show a difference
Thanks for sharing!👍
Bg44 k excellent product for cleaning carbon deposits
Just from a visual perspective, it seems to me the Redline did the best. However, the method you used isn't a realistic application. Honestly, I don't know how you'd accomplish that. These cleaners were designed to be active in the combustion process.
All that being said, I've been using Berryman's since the 90s at every oil change and have never been disappointed. Thanks for the great videos.
Fair enough!
so it's safe to say i can use the berryman every 3 months right
@@crayshaunhenderson1265 i use Berryman's at every oil change. I put one can in the crankcase, run it to operating temp, then change my oil. Then, I put a can in the next tank after the oil change. Been doing that for about 20 years.
@@theezeelife292 wow sounds good i'm about to try the redline line up. their motor oil and their fuel system cleaner
Just bought some Redline for $15.99 at Advance Auto. It was actually recommended to me by an Auto Zone employee when I asked him what the best stuff was.
B12 don't like particles a few of them had some can cause restrictions in carburator. 1st place winner Redline, then 2nd Cumout is the winner if your looking at cost. But in the long run cost of gas & fuel system ? 🤔👍Redline nice clip
Thanks for you're feedback!👍
It would appear that whichever bowl is the dirtiest produce the best results. If that being true? Then the best results would be determined by the darkest bowl with the most discoloration to the lightest. 1. Redline
2. Amsoil 3. BG44
4.Gumout 5. B-12
Or which spark plug was dirtiest which makes this not a proper test all the spark plugs in this video came off of different vehicles so this test is not an accurate test but nevertheless I appreciate the video
With B-12 being so cheap I wonder if you put 2 cans in one tank full if it would make a difference. With 2 cans it would still be 1/3 the price of Redline. Good job, thanks.
Working in a Mobil terminal, an employee put one pint of Mobil's concentrated additive (would treat 500 gal of gas) in his tank. By the time he drove home his car was burning oil, kicking out blue smoke, the additives took all lubrication off the cylinder walls. He had to call Mobil's lab in Fairfax VA to find out what to do to get his car back to normal. So be careful how much you add.
@@happydays8171 Good point thanks.
I say Redline did the best cleaning in this video but I would also like to see Redline and Amsoil up against Lucas Fuel System Cleaner. Thank you...California!
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I have a GDI Kia and the manual says to put in Chevron Techron. Would like to see Redline vs Techron. The KIA dealer uses BG44k to clean out engines ....as well as a mechanic down the street.
I use Techron but was seeing your results with Redline...so I will use that in my Dodge minivan with 160 K miles. It only get 17 MPG mixed and mecahnic says it needs to be de carbonized to get better.
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To me looks like Redline dissolved more carbon. So looks like I'm trying out Redline this week when I fill my truck.
how the redline did for your fuel system
I know this was recorded long time ago, but I would say that the most aggressive is not necessarily the best, as it could be harmful for other internal parts.
I use lucas. It not only cleans it, lubes the injectors, and fuel pump.
Cost to Performance - Gumout. Best cleaner - Redline Chemtool did a great job for costing $3 at Walmart.
Yep,
The B12 is a good deal for the money
It looks like Red Line dissolved the most gunk. It would be interesting to test BG 44K vs. Amsoil because they both seem to work well and are closely matched. Great video! 👍👍
Thank You!
If I had to pick from viewing this video alone, I'd choose Redline, it didn't seem to scrub off carbon chunks like the other ones did. Those chunks could make things problematic, like clogging fuel filters faster or obstructing injectors.
Thanks for your feedback👍
Seeing the others break chunks off was good and bad, good it works but big chunks could cause problem or stick downstream. The redline properly dissolved it and looks like it woukd pass easier downstream.
If the build up is on the spark plugs that means it’s past the fuel lines filters & injectors…
@@hairycods2273 where'd I write anything about spark plugs?
@@Mikgwerd who said you wrote something about spark plugs?
I've had excellent results with bg44k I call it a mechanic in a can
Yes, it's good stuff.
Redline Si-1 has the highest amount of PEA out there so I would expect it to do the best overall.
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Thanks, what has been your findings & in yiur Vehicles….? I running, 2015 JOURNEY 4 CYL, *& 2007 GMC Canyon 4 CYL(** interestingly just done***** TECHRON (pea hopefully)FUEL INJ Clean, ***with “no Ethanol HIGH Test Gas”, some three tankfuls**==== about 2-3****mpg increase during three tankfuls observations!; close observations..…@141,000 miles,Though also, changed TO PUROLATER BOSS OIL FILTER ( normally NAPA GILD, WIX)…?.. interestingly, DODGE Dealer uses BGK44 RECIMMENDED,.. I have had no,real issues with Dodge @90,000 , occasionally using RED LINE AS routine several moth Peeiods…..BIT OF STUMBLING(??) now…….
@@opera93 I just run a bottle of it right before an oil change and that's it. From what I understand its too powerful to run all the time unless of course you're only running a few ounces per tankful. I also remove and clean the throttle body every 30K miles or so. Between the two it keeps the fuel system clean.
redline cleans out the fuel tank and the fuel system right? and the fuel injector cleaner cleans the fuel injectors i wonder if you can mixed them together so you can kill 2 birds one stone
Yes but all these need heat not room temp liquid bath.
I can immediat3ely notice a drastic improvement with the BG 44K
great video but next time you need to add techron cleaner and compare, my guess #1 REDLINE #2 AMSOIL #3 TECHRON
Thanks👍
In my opinion: You realize that you're attempting to do analysis of fuel system cleaners on ignition parts don't you?
Some if those cleaners are heat activated like Amsoil PI. So the crud comes off with the power stroke. So they boost octane to do it.
It probably doesn't matter what one you use. Very few passenger vehicles have 21 gallon fuel tanks making the dosing extra strength at the get go.
I never seen any particular fuel system cleaner make such a profound change with seriously neglected leaky injectors to say it's even worth paying extra.
I know it's not a perfect test, but it does give you some idea of which fuel cleaner is stronger and would probably do a better job.JMHO
redline, tie for second 44K and PI, Regain in 3rd, and B12 didn't do squat. Would help if we could see the plugs in the after shot. I'm going by dirt in the bowl. Personally deposits in the combustion chamber isn't a concern of mine, clogged injector nozzles is. I always dump 2 bottles of 44k in the tank (19 gallons) before a road trip.
i never tried the bg 44k but i want to try that but i can buy redline and 44k
Videos are great, they’re addictive, help people pick the right products for them, and are plain ass super basic which I appreciate.
I see others saying “weigh” the plugs and yes sounds great, but what if also you made a contraption that would allow you to individually house maybe 6 plugs at once in their own little space, while in a ultra sonic clearer. That’d be nice to see, cause I know when cleaning injectors, sht makes for easy work.
Redline vs 44k. I think they're the best of these brands here.
Your testing method is a bit rough, but I think that before/after photo's for each and let them dry off before showing. Also I would suggest a light brushing with a toothbrush both before and after you do the treatments to simulate the vibration and air flow w/in the engine vs just assuming that the carbon will fall off on its own. Thanks, Ken.
redline and amsoil the best
Also test against the Lucas and Supertech cleaners(the 1 Qt bottles fuel treatment which has PEA in them). That stuff will actually work on fouled diesel injectors with a double dose in a full tank run.
Thanks for the suggestion!
The Supertech has PEA??
@@kenweller2032 The 1 Qt big bottle says it does. Just bought one a month or so ago.
@@GT-mn3bx THANKS!!
redline and the bg 44k did really good
Thanks for your feedback!
Redline looked the best by far! They are probably designed to work when they are igniting under fire?
Thanks for nice and visual information about cleaners. Yeah, we doesn't have it all in Estonia, Europe but we can find some of them.
Thanks for watching!👍
How does redline compare to rislone and dura last fuel cleaner
Sorry, I dont know. I never tested the Rislone or Duralast fuel cleaners.
Good Test. TY. Let the other commenters weigh in but my 2cents is place one in just gas as a control and the others in just the respective cleaners. Looks like red line did the best in this case.
Thanks for the suggestion!
Redline,
Redline and then BG44k in 2nd place,
Well I'm going to drop some nuggets and gems for everyone use gumout rogaine complete fuel system cleaner and 4 Oz of marvel mystery oil every fill up and the mechanic shops will be mad at you 😂😂😂💯👍, that'll the best combo for old and high miles vehicles
Thanks, Charlie.
You welcome
RED LINE DID THE BEST FOLLOWED VERY CLOSELY BY AMSOIL.
#1 red line.
RED LINE!
Redline, for sure.
The Redline did the best.
I have a 2010 Nissan Titan V8 started using seafoam I can feel slight increase in power but your video redline looks pretty good thinking of maybe switching oh by the way dealership told me to replace spark plugs every 100,000 miles Can’t wait for your next video
Thanks for sharing!
You should try the binary Rislone. Do a video like this for catalytic converter cleaners
Thanks for the suggestion👍
For spark plugs remember they’re not submerged in cleaner. What I would do, coat them with a cleaner.. reinstall the plugs and let them sit for a few hours, start the engine, give it a few revs then pull them again.
A lot of cleaners going through the fuel system rely on the pressure, heat, etc generated to get the loose carbon removed.
Personally, B12 has given me good results in classics but I also use their carb cleaner. For modern engines, never found a need to use a cleaner unless it was in the crankcase right before an oil change, and for that I just do the sea foam route
B12 always works great.
I'm surprised Techron wasn't used.
I have it in another video look at the pinned list
B-60 High Mileage is even more powerful than B-12. I'd like to see that versus BG44K
I have been using Gumout for over 45 years have never had any internal engine issues....Also i've used i qt of Rislone in every oil change for about the same amount of time ....again never any internal engine isues
Thanks for Sharing👍
Although I get the impression that Red-Line and Amsoil did a slightly better job, this test did/cannot represent actual conditions of a heated combustion process of which may fair better. So my thoughts are to use and soak the plugs in a full strength concentrated product over the course of say...7 days and make a daily inspection and then put them back in the bowl! This may reveal a slightly better result and thus possibly give some hope to what a driver may expect if using a product over a few tankful's????? In theory, if a concentrated product works then the diluted product should work!
As an alternate test, you could rig up a high temp test stand and boil the concentration that you have diluted in this video and see if the heat accelerates the cleaning process. Use covered steam table and not open flame please! 😱 😎 Don't tell the wife, she will have you steaming veggies for dinner 🤣
Although your points are all valid, I wouldn't totally discount this test. For one, it showed that all of them (except redline) produced carbon chunks, which could be something to think about when you consider the possible risk to the fuel filter and injectors.
Good point.
I wish you had checked to see which of them actually ignite and burn. I think the Project Farm tests showed only the B12 actually ignited and the rest wouldn't. I may be wrong about none of the others igniting.
You are probably correct, I did try putting them on white plates before to see which ones burn cleaner but they would not ignite. I can't remember which ones I tested, but I scrapped that idea.
Bg 44k and redline are both great products
Yes they are!
BG44 all the way
Have you reviewed 505 CRF ? Its a pretty expensive fuel additive that has a lot of good reviews.
No, I haven't. (not yet)
My question is, if i remember correctly, Berryman products have Methanol in them. Now i believe many car companies do not recommend using Methanol in your gas, which is why Ethanol is at the gas station. So if true, what gives with that ? Is it because its diluted ?
I'm no scientist so I dont know what makes Berrymans B12 so good but it is some strong stuff. Here's a link to their ingredients. www.berrymanproducts.com/assets/3A-5M-0112-1112-1165.pdf
Redline did best
Of course Redline
I use Red Line it has the highest PEA in it vs other brands.
Higher than Amsoil pi ? And bg44k?
Redline, B44
Redline and BG
I wonder if injector cleaners would work better spraying them in the intake before the injectors IN ADDITION to putting them in the tank. This way you can potentially clean the outside of the injector as well as the inside...
No. They clog up from the inside.
I always run a dash of Berrymans in my lawnmower and snow blower.
Thanks!
That's a great idea, should help keep the carb clean.👍
Great Video!
Thank you for all that you do.
I've had success with ATS 505 CRF, it seemed to work well also.
Me too, it was a Scotty recommended product and it really works.
I'll try that some time, Thanks!
So what happens to the gunk that comes off inside the engine? Where does it go? Surely that is an important question?
Redline the best
Redline in first & BD44K in second.
But what whould happen if you mix all of the liquid together and the soak spark plugs in the mixture
I don't know but I wouldn't use all of them at once either.
Is testing how well it removes carbon from a spark plug REALLY the equivalent of how well it does on fuel injectors?
Very hard decision . I would go for the redline as the bowel looked it had done a better job . Then the amsoil .the rest of the others not so good. ..plus I would use NGK plugs if I had a petrol car ...
Thanks for your feedback👍
I like (and use) Redline, but, why does the spark plug from the redline look different than all the others (6:30+ mark)? If that plug came from a different vehicle it would have different carbon build up characteristics and different cleaning requirements. Is this a proper test?
They are different plugs but still carboned up just the same. You can compare them at the 6:35 mark.
Good test but should of used the same spark plugs from one car to get a fair test
Looks like Redline and B-12 did the best, with maybe Redline doing the best?
It's hard to tell. Especially since this isn't how it would actually be used in the vehicle. But, yeah, that redline seems quite powerful.
I personally am running some B-12 in my car at the moment so that's why I'm here. I don't pick favorites just because it's something I have. I pick what I think appears to do the best, then I'll use that next time.
I may give the Redline a shot in another 3-4k miles. I also run MMO with every tank of fuel I run, but just the "recommended" amount. I know it has cleaner in it, but I primarily use it for the lubrication. IMO, it's practically Lucas UCL with 30% of it being cleaning additives.
But, anyways, car has been running like crap. It's either a bad ECU, something bad in the EVAP system or a vacuum leak... or a combination of these things. Not sure. Maybe even a blown headgasket, I dunno. Anyways, I noticed my car has been smoking on start up since adding the B-12... and I can only hope that's from blowing out crud after adding it to the fuel. I put a full bottle into the tank with 13-14 gallons of gas in the tank. Time will tell.
If it's smoking you probably have a problem that a fuel injector cleaner won't fix🙁
Thanks for Sharing👍
Try the K&N fuel system cleaner.
Got it.
And what about a control in this test? In other words - Gasoline without additives? I bet results would be similar.
Well he did disclose that it wasn't scientific lol. But yeah, that would've been helpful regardless.
Thank you. For my budget, me thinks any of these OK for regular use
Thanks for sharing.👍
The two I probably use most out of these is the B12 and Gumout.
The way this stuff works has something to do with heat and compression. It is a dynamic process not a static lay in a bowl process. It is possible to make the cleaner so strong that it will clean the plugs just laying in a bowl ( in 15 minutes) but will also destroy the O rings and seals with it. Not this simple.
What you say is true and these are not scientific results. But I hope it shows which cleaner would probably do a better job. Thanks for your feedback!
so which one would you recommend for me i just got my first car so can you help me get it running i'm in alaska
Redline is my favorite.
i added stp fuel injector into the engine insted of tank is it dangerous
I hope you didn't put it in the engine oil, if you did I'd change it out ASAP.
I am not sure but I think that those types of cleaning agents get activated by heat so when they get injected inside the combustion chamber they get heated up and reacte with the carbon, if somebody knows exactly how it works, hit me, I liked to know the science behind that.
Yes, I don't have a full physiological explanation, but heat does matter. The additives help to "burn off" the deposits.
Most of the time with heavy carbon deposits, you can take a plumbers torch to get it hot, then easily brush deposits off.
So you are right, most chemical reactions need either energy (from heat or other source) or an enzyme. Typically though, if you give something a ton of time the reactions eventually do occur with the exceptions of reactions that require activation energy. Just like "cold" brewing coffee takes 72 hours but "hot" brewing coffee takes 2 minutes. Therefore in theory if you let these things soak for days it might become comparable to running it in an engine. Maybe not.
@@SuperDancingdonkey thanks for replying it is greatly appreciated
Would bg44k work on my 2007 civic? I’ve added another brand 4k miles ago see no difference I get about 115 miles from empty to full tank I got new spark plugs my mechanic told me to check my injectors….
JMHO, If your problem is dirty injectors the BG44K should help. The Berryman B12 also works well and costs a lot less. Two cans of Berrymans would do a good cleaning also.
@@WhipCityWrencher I went with redline cleaner
@@WhipCityWrencher how does Amsoil pi fuel additive compare to redline fuel add?
@@topg3200 I think they are about the same from what I see here.
@@WhipCityWrencher what’s the pea on Amsoil, redline and bg44k fuel cleaner?