Why Belarus Suddenly Wants Russia to End the War
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Belarus president Lukashenko has asked Putin and Zelenskyy to put an immediate end to the fighting in Ukraine. The question is, does Belarus really want peace - or are they serving in a puppet role for Russia to help Putin achieve his goals?
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Also, sorry for the misnaming of some countries (Latvia, Lithuania) on the maps. I worked with an outside editor for some map animations and didn’t check their labeling carefully.
I could literally feel the "Ukraine is winning" copium in this script. The next vid will be a good laugh. All about how the front lines which anyone with eyeballs can see has not moved for a year; is totally not a stalemate. I'm sure you'll talk about how Ukraine took control of the black sea or something and that was the "real counteroffensive". Bro, I could literally write your material while I'm sitting on the toilet in 15 minutes; if you ever need someone to write for you for free; I'm here.
@@IconoclastX
Stay on that toilet until you 💩 your brains free of your nonsense.
@@IconoclastX And you can easily tell that delusion from just the first 40 seconds as soon as the he mentions the casualties. Because it's pretty sure that the casualty number is higher for the ukranians (or otherwise they wouldn't even use regular civilians without any training as "soldiers", which is a well known thing).
Also there is more behind the war than just "let's walk through on that country with the army!!!", so of course it won't go quickly.
@@icarusprojecti gave up at 5.43 having been waiting for the topic of the headline!
Sad cause it interested me.
That’s my feedback/A
For Ukriane, negotiating via Lukashenko would be like asking your mother-in-law to mediate your divorce.
😁😁😁
More like asking the Gimp in Pulp Fiction to negotiate for your release from the basement of the gun store while his master is having his ways with you.
My Belarusian wife spat her tea when I told her this 😂😂😂
@@thomaskinoshta Black is white, white is black, and the special military operation is going great.
Cleverly put!
Never trust Lukashenko. We remember what part Belarus played in the early days of the invasion
Trust Biden when he says my son didn't profit from corruption in Ukraine!
Exactly
But Lukashenko is totally trustworthy and can get Putin to sit down to negotiate. Remember when he stepped in to negotiate the talks between Putin and Prigozhin? And that worked out great for both sides.
@@paulybeefs8588 ur kidding
@@paulybeefs8588plane go brrrrr bang☄
Belarus doesn't want Russia to end the war. Belarus wants Ukraine to stop defending itself. Big difference.
The average Russian can not understand why Ukraine is fighting back. The just assume they will win and Ukraine is just being annoying.
Boy, when they find out what is really happening, Putin's life will be worthless.
The Belorussian people don’t want anything of the sort
@@546268 The Belorussian people has no army, Belarus has army. And it is Uncle Luka's army until Putin annexes Belarus. It will happen in 5 years.
In 5? Why not in a week? Huh...couch warrior
@@dodge6571 a week is within 5 years, dumbo.
All I'll say is know who else went through Lukashenko for negotiations? Prigozhin. And it certainly didn't end up well for him.
Facts.
I still firmly believe he and Putin faked his death so Putin could project power and get rid of the independent militias. And now he’s living on some estate in somewhere in Africa.
russian imperialists have a well earned reputation for being unintelligent
On the bright side, he didn't fall out of a window.....
Excellent point!
Most of the attack was launched from Belarus, and hence they should bear some responsibility for this invasion.
As mentioned in the video, there is a distinction between Belarusian people and Lukashenko.
I'm not sure about it. I don't think you can blame Belarus for Moscow.
@@gargoyle7863 but just remove lukashenko to be sure
@@Nikita_Turbobut no distinction between Putin and the Russian people?
Lukashenko has no more credibility than Putin.
Ukraine would never accept a ceasefire with Russia. Putin would almost certainly use the ceasefire to pull in more resources to the frontline. I mean we're talking about a guy who was playing chicken with one of the largest nuclear facilities in the world, by positioning troops and equipment there (which is illegal) and using it as a shield against Ukrainian strikes.
Yes. This. Any form of capitulation by Ukraine will just offer Putin time to regroup and attack again at a time of his choosing. The Ukrainians have learned they cannot have peace with Putin, not when he wants their nation destroyed for not bowing to him.
Ukraine will honor a cease fire as soon as all Russians leave all of Ukraine's land. That simple, but Putin wants all of Ukraine, now or later.
That's not quite true, Ukraine would accept a peacefire if Russia withdraws to 1992 borders first
@@miscbits6399the likelihood that Russia withdraws from all occupied territories voluntarily, including Donbas and Crimea, is close to zero.
@@NotFound-sm9rg true, but Ukraine would accept it as a precursor to a ceasefire
Maybe something to do with all those Belarussians training and fighting for Ukraine who intend to free Belarus too.
Освободить,от чего?от дешёвых платежей за коммуналку или чистых городов или традиционных ценностей .
@@kdv3271 tyranny
@@kdv3271What??? Ohhhh... that's why they're called the last dictatorship because they're good to their people...? Clown!!
@@kdv3271
Free from a man who needs to cheat commit fraud to win elections, free from a man who sends the military on protesters when they protest said fraud, free from a man who has a plane hijacked so he can kill a regime critic.
Or as you call it "free from traditional values"
@@kdv3271 Free of oppression by their KGB, for instance? Lukashenko wasn't even so decent to rename this instrument of tyranny after the downfall of Soviet Union.
A Victory for Ukraine is a Victory for the World! Take care of each other, be safe and God bless. Peace
😂
It is what it is. Like to hear it, love to see it. Take care, be safe, and MAY God bless you and all yours as to his will. Amen. Peace
Thanks chat GPT. Great statement.
More like it's a win for jews either way.
This old man had to look up GPT. Take care of your self, be safe and God bless you and yours. Peace
If Lukashenka's starting to back down, that's bad news for Putin, and good news for the world.
lukashekaloo is still vlads bitch; vlad wants a settlement too, so he can rebuild and attach again
Lukashenko won't go all the way to the Hague with putin 💙🇺🇦💛🖖🏻
600, 000 Excess Deaths in the US alone ?
He’ll need to avoid windows and tea
He can’t back down if he hasn’t moved! All he does is talk and let Russian equipment drive through at the very beginning of the war. His military won’t move against their Slavic brothers. And Poland would enter the war if Belarus did something stupid.
Lukeshenka was just as sure of a quick victory. But is now worried that Belarus will get dragged into this mess.
They were a jumping off point for the invasion. They are already involved.
I bet Putin wanted them ot join in in full and Luka said no, with Putin now putting ever more pressure on them joining for a quick victory. But then what will Poland do? Will Belarus even be effective at all? Will Luka get trouble back home because thye want him gone?
Yup. He assumed that Russia would win in 48 hours.
Not doing so has guaranteed his downfall. As soon as Russia is out of Ukraine, Belarus will either be absorbed into Russia or go fully independent - without Lukeshenka at the helm
So, the question becomes....what % of Belarusian soldiers will fight Russia, and what % will fight Ukraine? They are at a crossroads. They can choose their own destiny, or remain a vassal puppet state of Russia.
@@Jay.Kellett I believe the answer runs something along the lines of 100% and 0%
If Lukeshenka didn't have overwhelming numbers of russians in his country, he would have already been removed by the army. As I pointed out elswehere, 1/3 of the entire army deserted to go and fight on the side of the Ukrainians when Russia invaded. If he orders an attack on Ukraine then the remaining military will remove him and if there is an attack on Belarus from Russia then Ukraine, Poland and those Belarusian deserters will be joining the fray
They already dragged in this war, but we can't do anything about this. Bucha didn't happen if not Belorussia.
I met Belaruski anarchists and others during Euromaidan in Kyiv. Even drank tea with them!! They fully supported Ukraine's revolution against rascki control!!! Слава захисникам України!! 🟦🟨
yes, we are! Слава захисникам України!! 🟦🟨
They are next if russia wins
Would u mind translating
Uncle Luka thinks he is Belarus, in the same way Putin thinks he is Russia.
In world war 2 a stricken tanker was lashed alongside a destroyer which was helping it to port - The captain of the destroyer had a team on each rope with axes in case the tanker went down.
Russia is payrolling Belarus and Lukashenko, but Putin is not going to keep the begging bowl full in the long term. Will Belarus lash themselves to a Russian Tanker, or a European one...
@@andrewgray1949
Go European or Putin will end up owning the destroyer.
Looks like Putin's house of cards might finally be coming down.
I was told Putin was an excellent poker player. Seems as though he overplayed his hand this time, and is going "all in" with a pair of deuces.
Putin lost the war in the first few days. He failed at all of his stated objectives. When he started his war, NATO was weakened and to the point of pointlessness. Now NATO has reason to exist and has seen its membership increase, and its funding increase exponentially. If this war was going to "weaken NATO" Putin is an utter failure.
@@Jay.Kellett To add to your metaphor: the deuces looked like aces but when the ammo depots turned out to be half empty because some oligarch had sold off half the stock off the books, well, it turned out those aces were not aces after all.
I think, Putin failing at the beginning to take Kyiv with a lot of veteran troops, that basically all have been wiped out, had hit him so hard that the rest didn't work out either. He used his hammer without an anvil and managed to break it in the process.
Not enough qualified Russians to train the new recruits, or enough time to train them. So, they just send meat waves to attack. Russian demographics are falling fast.
🤦🤦♂🤦♀
Wiped out? They just panicked they were outnumbered because dumb generals placed three times less men than the defending side so they had to retreat. Most of them were located to the Donbas front.
Look to the south where the generals turned their brains on and what's left of piggies' counteroffence
You are so brainwashed it couldn't be described with words
A very intelligent observation
Also, Putin is a Paper Bear. His military is utterly incompetent. The last time they tried to conquer a country the size of Ukraine, it ended their empire. That country is called Afghanistan and was far technologically inferior to Russia. But Russia lost its entire empire fighting a stupid pointless war there just like they're doing right now. They'll get the same exact result because a country based upon white supremacy is automatically a weak nation because it tells comforting lies to itself.
Considering how Putin‘s holed up in his bunker and doesn’t want to hear bad news, his yes-men have no doubt told him that Kiev and Bakhmut have been taken, Crimea is still under Russian control, Belarus has conquered Poland, the Ukranian army has been killed 3x over, NATO forces have joined the war, NATO forces have lost the war, and Russia has recaptured Alaska. :P
Hmmm, I think this is more to put pressure on Ukraine than on Russia. After all, it's calling for ceasefire and negotiations, which benefits Russia more than it does Ukraine. It would either end things either as is (which means Russia takes a significant portion of Ukraine), or to create some breathing room for Russia to recover.
im not sure about that. russia suffers from heavy losses, but it also suffers from ongoing sanctions.
regarding the sustained losses: what do they loose? (citation V.Putin: "we have lost nothing!")
they loose old soviet equipment, ofc some more modern stuff as well, especially the ship losses hurt a lot, but mostly they loos stuff thats rotting away anyway.
and they loose minorities and gopniks, which they send to the meatgrinder.
putin doesnt care for that.
but the sanctions hurt very much.
maybe the cease fire option would be hurting ukrainian ego at first, but if sanctions keep in place as long as ukrainian soil is occupied, this might be a valid solution...
but one would be really need to be chasing the closing of black market gaps in the sanctions, for this strategy to be valid. Unsure if the west is willing to sustain a unified cold war front against russia for possibly decades (one western state that disobey could make a lot of money, so a lot of political pressure needed)
yeah well no not really if you actually follow the war its not hard to see that Ukranian counteroffensives have been defeated and now its the Russian turn, we have no idea what the russians are gonna put int he field they are making an army of 350k for deployment in the next summer along with force generation for reinforcements in current units. Even if Ukranians pour blood and iron to stop the Russians next summer what after the year after the next, Russians won't stop its all out for them now. Ukranians getting a ceasefire is the best possibility for them, it could be much worse - we will find out next year.
If Ukraine backs down, they know that Russia will invade again. Dictators are never happy with failure of their attempts to take over territory, and Putin is behaving exactly like that.
there are 3 comments and I can't see either of them. Thanks youtube censorship
@@jmister6824 Probably Russian bot comments. :P
If ive learnt one thing from russia its that words mean nothing its their actions you watch!
I wouldnt trust them or belarus until they leave or are pushed out of ukraine
"I wouldnt trust them or belarus until they leave or are pushed out of ukraine"
I will never trust them regardless of whether they leave or are pushed out. Neither scenario will ever turn known liars into honest people. Russia has lied about nearly everything since Tsarist times..It's in their DNA..
Same goes for everybody watch what they do
I wouldn't trust them even if they hung Putin and became a democratic country. The horrors those people have lived through for over 100 years will take *many* generations to overcome...
The phrase "trust Russia" is an oxymoron. The two words are mutually exclusive and contradict each other. Might as well just say go slow fast.
And not even then.
The last scenario is the most likely, the Belarusians don't want to be drawn into a war against an old ally....a dictator won't want to be ousted by a popular uprising.
Pro-Z comments always scream "stalemate" as if being stuck in a stalemate 150km from your border, with a country less than half equipped as you, while not even securing the capitals of two of those oblasts, is some sort of crushing victory.
It's not a crushing victory, but if the world can be lulled into accepting it, it is a victory.
its also funny that they think the aid provided to Ukraine totally excuses their failures on the front lines, less than 2% of NATO's collective military finances have been provided to Ukraine and Russia has been brought to the absolute edge of a cliff with just that.
@@dominuslogik484 Makes me wonder even more why NATO isn't properly supporting Ukraine.
During WW2, while the UK were themselves at war, the UK provided 10% of their military budget to the USSR.
Fighting Russia will never be easy, but imagine what Ukraine could do if that were still how things worked today.
@@a5cent well I know the US still has a bunch of the approved funds for supplying Ukraine unallocated. as for why Europe is getting cold feet is because they all suddenly started worrying about another war on terror kicking off along with spiking energy prices because of the middle east.
not to mention the migration crisis tanking the European welfare states.
@@dominuslogik484 I'm actually in Europe right now (temporarily) and I don't think your view of European support for Ukraine matches up with reality. I don't want to say it's been great, because IMHO almost no country (except the Baltics) has done a great job of supporting Ukraine.
If we dig a bit deeper, the European lead becomes substantially larger than it already is on paper, but I'll skip those details for now. Either way, I don't think "cold feet" describes the European view of the war in Ukraine at all. Where I do think Europe truly struggles is in their ability to ramp up military production. The US is so far ahead on that front that Europe can't even see the US from where they stand. That's why NATO needs the US to keep shipping military equipment, while Europe sends the cash.
If either falters, so will Ukraine, and right now it looks like the US is closer to faltering than Europe, at least that's my impression based on US media I've seen.
Icarus, Ukraine refused to give ground since Russia first attempt all the way back in 1992.
This war would end only one way, Russia leaving and Ukraine in NATO.
Agreed! I see you commented just a few minutes after I posted this one, so you may not have seen it yet, but that's exactly the point that is made in this video.
@@icarusproject Ofc, thank you for the high production quality videos, now please don't disturb the line, hook and sinker.
mad cope
@@KekusMagnusIncoherent remark.
@@icarusprojectlol you really believe these delusions. Keep spewing the bs. Even the USA government is not listing those casualties numbers
"Belarus is considered to be Europe's last dictstorship" *Hungary coughs
Hungary is still very far from factual dictatorship.
Is it a dictatorship or an extremely illiberal democracy👨🏿🦯🤏🏿
I live in the EU, like those countries are democracy. Don't make me laugh. It's the same elite that rule (almost) the whole world.
And Russia is primarily a European country too, so they also cough.
Erdogan also tries to get a cough
All good info. I wish more people in USA 🇺🇸 would watch this.
A good comment but I get the impression at times that the American people are clueless with regard to anything beyond their country. Have seen many interviews with particularly young Americans displaying incredidble ignorance and a lack of education about world events/history.
Hello from America 🇺🇸
What really gets me is that some ppl. are now saying why does Ukraine not just let Russia have the areas /land it’s just a small part of Ukraine anyway.....
A small part of Ukraine ...WE ARE taking about a land mass is almost 200,000 sq km
In EU terms thats the size of Belgium, Holland, luxembourg and Greece all put together..
In UK terms that the size of all of Scotland , Wales and 80% of England all put together !!
In US terms is the size of South Carolina, West Virginia and New Jersey all put together !!
Why the f. should Ukraine give Russia all that land for what? TO ONLY be invaded some years later when Russia as had a brake and regrouped ,rebuilt its army and fortified positions !!
I SAY RUSSIA GETS TO TAKE LAND AND DEMAND UKRAINE CAN NOT JOIN NATO IS NOT ACCEPTABLE AT ALL !! Nobody wants to be a "buffer country". NO nation wants to have a little bit of freedom !!!! ; The whole concept is demeaning to an independent nation. NO nation wants to have a little bit of freedom and self-determination, like some sort of 2nd class country; That is not right, and Russia has no right to demand or bully Ukrainians or Ukraine to accept that Ukraine and its ppl. should become some sort of lap dog on a leash 2nd class country to serve kremlins geopolitical agenda; so Kremlin, Putin and RuZZans can feel better about themselves ...
Eastern European countries (ex soviet countries like Poland the baltic states ect ect ..) joined NATO because they are scared of Russia and want to be and stay independent. Nobody forced them to join NATO they was the ones running and knocking and begging to be able to join NATO and the EU ,,, .
When Russia invaded Ukraine Russia then just showed why it was a good idea for those countries to join NATO, because if they didn't they might just have got invaded as well just like Ukraine and Georgia did .
During Soviet times those Eastern European countries were nothing less than Russia puppet states. If they didn't join NATO after the fall of the USSR then they for sure couldn't guarantee their own independence from Russia.
Nato did nothing wrong, the only mistake was Ukraine not joining NATO to ensure Ukraines independence; Remember former satellite states like Poland, Romania, Czech Republic and The Baltic states, Slovakia ect ect all came running by their own accord, knocking, kicking, screaming and banging at the front door of EU and NATO begging to come in, no one forced them into it .
If Russia was not such a asshole country and stoped constantly bulling neighboring countries maybe other neighboring countries will not need to join NATO and by more open and welcoming to Russia ..
Also these people who advocate this view that Ukraine shroud just give up land and appeasement to Russians wants wishes are also being very ignorant to the fact that there were already treaties in place between Russia and Ukraine where Russia respecting the integrity of Ukraine's borders plus other treaties relating to the seas around Ukraine.
Putin has already broken those treaties.
Why would Ukraine believe Putin would stick to a new treaty when he's just broken half a dozen of the previous Russia Ukraine treaties and agreements.
Russia has demonstrated its treaties and agreements are worthless and you enter them at your great peril.
never trust Russias , Chinese, Iranians, Taliban.
Well said
Germany prevented Ukraine from joining NATO in 2005
@@spage80Ukraine applied to integrate with a NATO membership action plan(MAP) in 2008
@@spage80 NO infact it was in 2008 not 2005 and other countries like France was also in the same boat of thinking as so was Germany at the time and Merkel at the time ... But there was never any desiccation about Ukriane joining NATO there was a desiccation about a M.A.P (an membership action plan) to be drawn up And as the NATO summit closed, Merkel herself came up with an alternative solution a final communique promised Ukraine eventual membership though it did stop short of actually offering a timeline or a concrete action plan for doing so.
The is not Merkel preventing Ukraine from joining NATO this is a solid promise that one day Ukraine will join when Ukraine has reformed to democratic values political transparency and rule of law and their military is up to NATO level and standards
Belarus has no power to tell anyone to stop, certainly not to Russia as its vassal state.
If you didn't know there are a few countries that are "free"(not vassal state)
@@mihailcoscodan8422 ?
@@turkoositerapsidi I think that guy was trying to muddy the waters between a small country and one whose leaders are chosen by some other country.
@@havable I guess you are right, but I wanted them to write it clearly. But maybe they do not have the courage to write it. Let's see do they respond.
I think it’s having a big effect on Belarus. They expected this to end quickly. But now no one wants anything to do with them like Russia. The Dictator could end up getting the boot, as in assassinated.
“Oh no, our actions have consequences. That’s not fair.”
Thanks for providing us with the sources you oriented yourself on. So many RUclipsr cover these important topics without giving their sources (which makes them unreliable)
I’m from Belarus, thank you for a great perspective on the Belarus government’s schemes(and some nice shots of Minsk btw)
What do Belorusians think of russia from your experience? Are they supporting it or are against it?
>Пiша змагарок з пад вiльнi цi з пад Варшавы…. Ахахах
From my experience in Belarus many were okayish with russia before this war but almost all younger generations hate their government. Now most see russia more clearly for what it is.
From my experience in Belarus many were okayish with russia before this war but almost all younger generations hate their government. Now most see russia more clearly for what it is.
From my experience in Belarus many were okayish with russia before this war but almost all younger generations hate their government. Now most see russia more clearly for what it is.
The war has greatly weakened Russia and is leading to a loosening of ties with all the Russian client states not just Belarus. Lukashenko knows what happened to the Ceausescus could easily happen to him so he is trying to distance himself. That is by far the most likely explanation
I think this would make a lot of sense. Frankly, Lukashenko is stuck between a rock and a hard place. He might not want to be a puppet to Putin, but he know the west isn’t going to come to his defense if he defies Putin.
As Russia commits more resources to the war though, they have fewer resources to keep the Belarusian people in line, and Lukashenko might be prodding for an opportunity to assert independence.
Christmas is near...
I agree, most dictators are paranoid and fear for their safety, if the population sense that Russia has been sufficiently weakened they may see it as the best opportunity to overthrow Lukashenko .
Ukraine is defending there home. why would they give up
You must be an illiterate Russian troll to think that, genius.
They've done it before.
If they would just lay down weapons in the beginning, the only thing would change is the Management Company of their house and its office, and they would live there just like they did before. Now they destroyed their house trying to protect it from...??? Was it worth it?
@@nathanhiggers4606 Historically, yes. The Russians themselves have successfully employed scorched earth tactics while on the retreat.
@@nathanhiggers4606 "If they would just lay down weapons in the beginning"
But your Putin should have known that was not going to happen unless he doesn't know the history of his own country, particularly the Holodomor genocide where Russia butchered five million Ukrainians mostly by starving and raping them to death. If that was in your history, you would know that such a place would never submit to your rule. It is more likely that Ukraine conquers Russia than Russia conquers Ukraine. The most likely outcome is that Russia gets pushed out of Ukraine, and then the war ends. And then Russia starts building up to start a new year in about five years. But by then, Ukraine will have already built its own nukes and they will be pointed at Russia to prevent more Nazi invasions from the Nazis in Nazi Russia.
Ukraine should give them NOTHING! Negotiate no land!
The possibility I am hearing is that the Russian military is so weakened that luka shanko is starting to worry about russia's capacity to win a bella russian civil war. That would mean that keeping up the strength of the russian military in the midterm is lukashenko's true goal.
There would also be some fear among the Belarussian public that if the Lukashenko govt is gone they would face an invasion too. Belarus isn't powerful with its army.
@@davidk6264 yeah 100% the Russians will invade them, and they already have significant force concentration inside Belarus so its not even an invasion.
@@davidk6264 Yup, but such an invasion would be met with the Poles immediately coming to Belarusian aid (Poland has the _largest_ and best trained western european land army/air force)
@@miscbits6399
Yeah sure, how about the Poles send a shit ton of weapons and we can have a Ukraine 2.0 in Minsk.
@@miscbits6399 Unlikely. The relationship between Poland and Ukraine is vastly different than between Poland and Belarus. Poland and Ukraine have been friendly for years. Belarus makes a regular show of antagonizing Poland.
Option 5... a combination of all four previously mentioned options,adding that Luco maybe looking for a bolt-hole and an amnesty for himself if he was to kicked out of office,forced to leave to country and not to be labelled an international war criminal
Human lives mean nothing to putler, unless it’s his own.
Great video 👍🏼
Your analysis is on point. Lukashenko is a mouthpiece for Putin.
Great video!!
Russia conquers, then uses people from that conquered land to CONQUER MORE LAND. If you're unaware of this like I was prior to Feb 24, 2022 then u should educate yourself
💯 agree with you!
Lukashenko is trying to give Putin an out, like the little guy holding back a heavyweight MMA fighter at the weigh-in
vlad cant sue for peace talks now, russia has lost to much.
You're likely right - Russia can sue for peace, but Putin can't.
They could lose a lot more though so...
I bet Lukashenko's villa is currently giving him a bad case of Majestic Landscape Fatigue Syndrome (MLFS), where one becomes too used to seeing nothing up close and thus simultaneously increasingly paranoid of snipers.
Since it's not a war, it would just be a special military retreat
I like that. They could spin it as a PE exercise where they get tea and crumpets and a day spa.
I doubt Lukashenko suddenly started to act independently. Its probably Putin moving his lips again to achieve pause, which Putin cannot be seen to offer, but clearly needs, to rebuild the army
Edit, author actually offered same theory, later in the video
Uncle Luka has the power of a pithed frog.
Each world war took over half a decade to end… The Ukraine war is nowhere near the scale of those conflicts, so the attrition rates are much lesser as well. This war is not going to end anytime soon, unfortunately. Hopefully the clowns in the Republican Party are either voted out, or find some integrity. I wish Ronald Reagan was still the spirit of the party, what happened to the arsenal of freedom.
He got replaced by fascists idiots sadly.
It got distracted standing on their moral pedestal pontificating to the world. Frankly the democrats aren't any better. They are just pontificating about different things.
@@ADobbin1
The Republicans have a plan to undermine the system and turn it into an autocracy.
While the Democrats are not perfect and there are a lot of things to disagree with they neither praise dictators, nor plan to overthrow the system.
That's not some "they probably want to do this" situation, there's a plan written down by one of the most influential think tanks and they are actively recruiting MAGA yes-men for replacing the executive branch. You can apply for it right now.
It's called Project 2025 and might turn the US into a theocracy.
And due to the Republicans turning pretty much into the MAGA party they _will_ try to implement it.
@@ADobbin1 Still tons better, even if not perfect. How bad the democrats are isn't as bad as the republicans are.
@@mitsunekolucky671That's just your ideology outweighing your common sense. The Dems suck just as hard. In fact, they are worse when it comes to domestic and economic issues. That's an objective fact. Gas is 150% more expensive under a Dem. Eggs cost you 200% more. Milk is up 70%. Inflation is rampant. All of it directly the fault of the Democrat admin. Period. Knock off the ideological bullshit and try some critical thought. Both parties are in fact one party. You and I live in a freaking oligarchy.
Bear in mind also that Russia has basically declared unending war against the west ... Ukraine included.
Yeah but they also said Kherson is forever Russia and that lasted what, like half a year? Their words mean nothing.
@@sogerc1 Whose words you say mean nothing? Weren't it Minsk agreements and the promise not to expand NATO?
Another d-ass.
@@nathanhiggers4606 Who could have made any such promise? I do not think that Nato leaders would agree on such terms.
@@turkoositerapsidi Who was the US president in 90s? That's him.
@@nathanhiggers4606 You mean the two Minsk agreements that the so called DPR (which was of course Russia) broke. Yeah, like I said, their words mean nothing. And show me the treaty where it says NATO will not expand! Even of there was such a conversation, to which there's no evidence, we don't know in what context it was said. If it would've been important to Russia, they would've demanded it in writing. This is just one of those Putin whinings, because Russia is always the victim.
Noone listens to puppets.
Lukashenko is a puppet. Belorussian people stand for Ukraine. Russia is weak and isolated. Zelenskiy is a gigachad. Ukrainian summer counteroffensive was successful, the progress is just slow.
10/10 original & 11/10 objective video
SLAVA UKRAINE! 🔱💙💛✌😊
Lukashenko said many things in the past which someone could falsely interpret and critique or opposition to Putin. It's just bla bla, in fact Belarus and his power are dependent on Putins money. The protests in 2020 were beaten down by Russian soldiers and police who also trained the Belarusian police
What would be catastrophic for the Russian side is that Europe decides to finally provide their full support short of providing troops. Germany has recently increased their support, we have yet to see France step in with a commensurate commitment. Belarus is appealing to the opposition against the conflict in Europe, which is much more vocal than in the U.S. The fate of a politician in Europe could hang in the balance should they pledge their support while opposition is growing in a recession, despite the fact that the EU has already been in talks for Ukraine to enter the union.
Im hoping EU continues to support Ukraine. As an American, im frustrated by the conflicting opinions but that is the entire point of our system (although i wish there was a little less fluidity). I still think the wider public is pro-Ukraine but im hoping we continue to give them what they need to defend themselves.
Especially now that a large percentage of Americans are unaware of our historical role in Europe keeping the peace so that countries like Germany don't rearm those days are long gone now
I think if it occurred to ppl that Europe was an emerging superpower, they would be more supportive of military aid to Ukraine, and not focus exclusively on the humanitarian side. Russia kept threatening the UK with annihilation on a daily basis via their propaganda news channel, so this had the impact of having the UK provide storm shadow and challenger II. Germany has been countering political opposition at home by redoubling their military support, and publicly announcing a GDP figure towards its own military contribution. I’m truly wondering how France is going to decide to take a more active role.
Here’s a video from Covert Cabal on North Korea, who recently pledged to provide 1m. artillery shells. You have to wonder how this might impact Wester European politics, since this deepens and escalates the conflict => ruclips.net/video/ziu9HapiCok/видео.htmlsi=UOiTaRGxPxcK8y32
The Baltic states know they are next if Ukraine falls, so they are staunch supporters. Poland is just arming itself to the teeth, as it NEVER wants to be ruled by Russia ever again!
Finland made the right move at the right time....smart. I suspect other Russian puppet states are biding their time too. Everyone is looking for potential gains in this conflict.
Oh....and no one wants Russian military equipment any more....LOL
EU has a problem in sending aid to Ukraine. Individual countries can, but not the EU because it has to be unanimous and President Orban of Hungary is a huge Putin fan-boi and would probably orally please Putin if asked.
Let's be real, Russia can not afford anymore "gains" in Ukraine. Every square km occupied is a net cost for Russia. Imagine for a second they occupy Kiev, how many men, equipment and resources would that cost. Resources and men they apparently don't have anymore. Russia already lost in April 2022, when they had to accept they can't win quickly all of Ukraine. It's been an agony since then. It will not stop.
I say again: any significant progress of russian forces in Ukraine will cost them much more than any benefit they might gain. What sort of gain did they get from Donbass? Probably Crimea can be counted as a net strategic and that's all. I suspect some of their military already know this, maybe even Putin is starting to realize.
Afgan was a huge problem for the mighty USSR. Russia has lost the industry, demographics and a lot of the resources of the USSR and is trying to occupy a much bigger, stronger enemy than Afgan. Lol... Talk about "gains"...
Yes, let's imagine the utopian case that Russia would occupy all of Ukraine. Does Putin believe that Ukrainians will become good subjects of the Kremlin again after these crimes that Russia has committed in Ukraine so far? In order to subjugate Ukraine, Russia would have to permanently station at least 2 million soldiers, police officers, civil servants, etc. there, whose lives would be in danger there day and night. Russians should remember Afghanistan, which was more like a pony farm when compared to an occupied Ukraine.
Yep. Even if they conquered all of Ukraine, they'd still have to deal with "the hard part" which is "occupation." Ukraine will never submit to Russia because of The Holodomor.
Lots of words Not much said Glory to Ukraine 🇺🇦
One thing is very clear.. Lukashenko could kick Putin’s ass.. Look at the difference in size!
It's Lithuania on the top left side of Belarus not Latvia.
Russia should eff off and go home!
Exceptionally well thought out…nice work.
I want Belarus to be free. NOT Liberal lunatic free, but free. Belarus needs Belarussian People´s Front to rule the country!
You first said Luka was Putin's puppet.
And they you are saying Luka had the chance to prevent the war by saying no to Russia.
How is that possible if he is already a puppet? Puppet are not independent players to make their own decisions.
"Would you PLEASE stop shooting at each other?"
Neighbor in between.
I haven't finished the video yet, but I think that Luka wants the war to end now with a strong Russia rather than later with a weak Russia, because a weak Russia will get less favorable terms in the peace deal, and Belarus will, in turn, receive worse terms in the peace deal.
It’s already weaker. Kazakhstan, which not so long ago relied on Russian troops to put down civil insurrection, is taking a much more independent line and has expressed support for Ukraine. Armenia, which looked to Russia to support it against Azerbaijan, has received no support and is now looking to the US and NATO. The long dormant calls for independence amongst the many conquered nations which make up the Russian Federation are coming out into the open. Putin thought he was building a bigger Russia: the outcome will be the opposite
@@jontalbot1 "Armenia, which looked to Russia to support it against Azerbaijan, has received no support"
And people wonder why nobody wants to join Putin's defense pac and that that only countries who have joined it were either invaded or their leaders are their leaders because of Russian bot farms conning their voters. Like all things with a dictator, Putin's 'defense pac' is one-way only. The "members" of the pac are to defend Russia but Russia is not to defend them. That's a deal nobody wants, except Russia.
Fun Fact: It was Russia who saved The Union during the American Civil War as they sent their Navy to San Francisco and New York when England and France were just about to enter the war on the side of the Confederates since London created the Confederates. France was already in Mexico making a spear head movement to resupply the Confederates and to open up a Pacific Theatre and to create a port in California. England already amassed 11,000 troops and growing stationed at their Northern Confederacies border now called Canada ready to open a Northern Theatre to divert Union troops away from their Southern Confederacy then to attack The Unions naval blockade. The Union would have been completely destroyed and annexed by those two great powers leaving the Confederates to exist as either a puppet state of London or to be fully brought back into the fold of the British Empire.
London was already courting (threatening/bribing) other countries to get involved like Spain while Russia was in talks with Prussia to ally with incase London was to intervene.
Seeing all of this Tsar Alexander II wrote a letter to Queen Victoria saying “If you enter in this war it will be a casus belli for all out war with the Russian Empire”. The stage was set for the 1st World War and Russia stopped it.
There is also a memorial in San Francisco for the
hundreds of Russian sailors who came off their Asiatic fleet ships that died while helping the city put out a fire that threatened to lay waste to it during the War.
The Russian fleet also threatened to Shell Australian ports along with other British Pacific Colonies if Britain aided the Confederates. A confederate war ship spent a lot of time in Australian waters and was supported by the Australian public, some even signing on as crew members. This Confederate war ship laid waist to the US Pacific whaling fleet and is reported to have fired the last shot in the war
Russia also helped Thailand (Kingdom of Siam) maintain its sovereignty from being completely Partitioned/Annexed from the British and French around the same time. The very word Thai (ไทย) means 'free man' in the Thai language which is partially to thank to the Russians as they might have ended up being a colony or part of another country/colony if not for their intervention.
@@BBSr-q2w You sir give me hope in humanity. For reference if you want to know more about this and what resulted one of best books to start with to read on the subject is "The Clash of the Two Americas. The Unfinished Symphony" by Matthew Ehret. I have no affiliation with them but they also have an audiobook which can make it easier since not many people like to sit down and read anymore. It has multiple references on the bottom of each page of the book. It talks about more than just the civil war but it is a decent portion of the book as an example of a much bigger picture.
Belarus - Europes last dictatorship...except for Hungary, Turkey, and of course Russia. I know of no student of authoritarianism who considers Belarus to be Europes only dictorship
I wonder if one of the reasons is as Belarus borders both countries and is an ally of Putin, the risks of being pulled into the conflict in a significantly negative manner grow the longer the conflict goes on.
Even when this ends Lukashenko will have a battle hardened neighbor next door with a long memory.
Belarus people are eyeing Ukrainians and thinking: “Tough guys who defended their land and stood up against the russian bear. Why not us? Georgians are next to fight for independence, why not us? When Chechnya get the guts to fight back again, Belarus will surely be fed up with dictatorship.
> "Here are four reasons"
> Lists one reason three times, just different wording
Another possible reason for Lukashenko's appeal for negotiations is that if Russia loses and he is held to account, he can claim he was the peacemaker. Then there is also the possibility that he is considering changing sides. Militarily, Russia is immensely weakened and would not want to engage in another war against Belorussia where the predominance of symapthy is for Ukraine and things have gone so badly in Ukraine.
Lukashenko may have been threatened by Putin, that unless he joins the war against Ukraine, he will pull the plug on supporting him. Lukashenko may be preparing for the day that support fails when he can claim that he had no option but to work with Putin because Belorussia would have ended up being crushed by Russia like Ukraine if he did not comply.
The sentiment might even be true. But now Russia is so weak, he can pre-empt that withdrawal of support by declaring against Russia and save his own skin. If Lukashenko was left by Putin to the mercy of those he now controls, a popular revolt would soon see him dead but if he had already changed sides, it might see him survive.
Russians in February 2022: "We'll conquer Kyiv in 3 days", Russians 630+ days later and 200k dead: "Everything goes according to plan" 🤡
To be fair, I've never seen any trustworthy source for the 3 days-claim being Russian.
But nonetheless, we have enough data to conclude that Russia didn't plan for an engagement longer than even just a couple of months.
You have an interesting way of pronouncing Putin....I believe it's pronounced "Putler, Vladolf". & his arm is shoulder deep up Lickashenka's a55 flapping his mouth!
11;37 that guy's pissed off that he didn't get his ear protection on in time 🤣
very good one, BUT YOUR PRONUNCIATION OF BELARUSIAN IS THE COLONIAL 🇷🇺 ONE , THE CORRECT ONE IS ˌbeləˈro͞osēən (Belarusian) , Rus´ is the base , not "russia" which is Muscovite 18c. product of rebranding. With Love from Bielarus´!
+1
The Vietnam war was 8 years, 58000 Americans killed, many more wounded, I think. Its the Afghanistan war that was 20 years. Such an obvious error! Why listen to more? Its just click bait.
Hey, thx for the video, but
next time, please spell KYIV as it's written(Ukrainian pronunciation) and not kiev because that's russian pronunciation. I now it's harder at first, but it's much appreciated by all Ukrainians.
@The Icarus Project - Thank you for an interesting and thought provocing video. Cheers from Scandinavia.
If Russia occupied Texas would we, in the US, call s ceasefire?
Putin needs a pause to rebuild and train.
That's it, period.
Belarus just needs a spark to start their change.
It might be that Belarus is worried that Russia is depleting its military and won’t be able to support the current regime against domestic insurrection.
I feel bad for Belarusian people, because although a lot were against the war of aggression, ultimately their country played a part in it and will have to face the consequences. Belarus will surely need to pay in the reconstruction of Ukraine.
Belarus railway workers bravely delayed Russian supplies. Don't think Belarus "need to pay."
Most Belarussians would rather rid themselves of Lukashenko and Putin. They are a hostage people.
Further oppressing the already oppressed? 😬 Good lesson to not trust Western nations - conquering as opposed to liberating.
Ukrainians know about how Belarusians wrecked railway lines to mess with the Russian invasion. They know the Bela govt had nothing to do with it, but they know there are people in Bela who are on their side and always have been.
One of the few things I'm excited for in the future is seeing how THIS turns out. Quite optimistic at the moment
Lukashenko looking along his border at a Militarized Poland looking for some historical payback. Belarus justifiably wants no part in that.
Nobody should make deals with invaders. If invaders want a deal, they should have their troops exit the country they invaded first. If that means Putin loses face, it sounds like a dictator problem to me.
Because instead of.russians, they have a brain
Them saying it is a stalemate is key, I beg to differ it is. It is a slow slog but gains are made, Russia is in the back foot. Ceasefire simply allows Russia to refocus
Lukashenko- sanctions are hellish. Putin- sanctions are having no effect. You decide which is likely to be more believable.
As for negotiations between 2014 to 2022 there were some 200 negotiations and some 20 ceasefires all broken by Russia.
What's the problem with the people who think Ukraine should cave and let Russia have 25% of its land. If this was our back yard would you not fight for it. If you ask a good part of us North Americans what they think they say fight to the death. don't give in to a dictator. I sure none of you would. In our opinion the world is not supporting Ukraine enough.
Just a propaganda game to appear peaceful and reasonable while blaming Ukraine for continuing the war. Sickening.
Dude! You really should be a speechwriter for the various politicians in Washington who want Russia to go home!
You nail just about every talking point they need to convey the correct message!
Maybe have bi-partisan Senators and Congressmen each take up the subject on a point-by-point format so that it doesn't drag on into one long speech where important points get swallowed up in the others.
I find your analyses to be cogent and unbiased in any way other than the reality of what is going on!
Keep up your great work!
The Kremlin: Reporting bad news is llegal
Also the Kremlin: Why only good news from Ukraine?!
That commercial right at the beginning blew me away. I have no idea what was in this post, other than the catchy headline.
What I'm seeing is a WWI-like stalemate, that is a stalemate based on the superiority of defensive weapons and tactics over offensive ones. But in WWI that stalemate was challenged by offensive tactics (assault and infiltration by infantry) and broken by new technologies (tanks). Of course, that process took years to come to fruition. Meanwhile, both sides but especially Ukraine are iterating quickly looking for ways to break that stalemate. It's likely only a matter of time before a solution is found.
I'd add, that what we are seeing more broadly with drone warfare and other social dynamics appears to be a decline in the overwhelming advantage that centralized nation-states gained in during the military revolutions of the 16th and 17th centuries. When $1000 worth of off the shelf hardware purchased on the web can be built into an effective antitank weapon constructed in a home or small shop, there seems to be a shift underway.
Ukraine is also getting weapons with longer range and greater accuracy, which would reach deeper into Belarus if they get frisky again. I don't know how far into Belarus they could reach, but military staging areas near the border would be legitimate targets and accessible from well within Ukraine. IF Belarus starts anything, including allowing Russia to stage troops.
How can Belarus be Europe's last dictatorship when Tsar Vladimir is the dictator of Russia?
500k casualties?
That's two weeks of WW1.
WW1 had far more men and countries involved, hence the "World" in the name.
Point being? Not enough carnage? Not worth caring about 500k dead?
@@a5cent Those are rookie numbers. Not so easy to drain Russia's endless supply of Mobiks.
@@svr5423demographic crisis machine go brrrrr
@@svr5423 Surely you aren't so naive as to think either side will be drained of manpower? Right?
That is not how this war will be decided, just like draining the US of manpower is not how Korea, Vietnam or Afghanistan were decided.
11:37 lmfaoooooooo that guy is so pissed lmfaoo. The artillery fired a shell down range when he wasn’t prepared didn’t have his ear protection on then gets frustrated at the staged camera crew
Lol - russia is not becoming weary and weak, it's always been that way 😂
Of course not, russia is just totally unhealthy due to 400 years of addiction to alcohol, lack of exercise, bad eating habits, belief that they can’t make mistakes, inability to learn, dishonesty, and hereditary propensity to drug addiction. Birth rate and ruble plummeting in russia- and they were ALREADY POOR! Mentally, they are still back in the Middle Ages.
Is that the reason why West is desperately trying to weaken Russia?
Agree with the last part.
Following the war from the battlefield is far different then what the and other media tells you.
Western propaganda.. sorry but I gotta call it out when I see it. Russia is in a much more favorable position seeing as they are still occupying much of Ukraine.. also Russia has much more of an Air Force than Ukraine and without air superiority it is nearly impossible to advance
Land isn't an advantage, tactical position is. Russia has an overstretched logistical tail, and they are largely unable to use their Aircraft as they're denied access to the airspace. Air power isn't exactly necessary, as long as artillery and guided weapons like drones are available to do the same job. Except for extremely dug in positions. That's when air power becomes more critical.
@@madisondines7441 you really think the Russians aren’t well dug in at this point? I would be willing the bet the Russians have learned a few lessons and have really fortified their defenses.. and just saying that based on the general lack of movement. For the past year or however long
Russia is occupying much of Ukraine?
~17% isn't really much.
@@adamdudley8736 yes and no.
Funnily enough Russia might have done better if Belarus had said no... Instead they spread their forces all over the place and lost their best ones very quick....
Another really great video from you. So sane, so reasonable! I already hated Russia before it stole Crimea, and this endless nightmare merely helps me hate it more.
My fellow "right-wing extremists" in American activism have been instant idiots regarding Russia's aggression. They think Putin is Elvis and spout the propaganda lies that "Ukraine isn't a real country" blah blah. It's like when they suddenly went neocon and supported the incipient "war on terror" -- actually a war OF terror -- on the flimsy excuse that we couldn't agree with the Dummacrats about anything.
Belarus was one of the few hero nations during the Covidiocy -- it refused to shut down under what was clearly a snow job for a power grab. Something told me that its independence would be crushed and voila -- it's Russia's whore because of, as you show, its evil puppet president. Maybe it's time to revive the Captive Nations Parade in NYC?
Hey, isn't Lukashenko a Ukrainian name? Shame on him in any case for giving Putin any cooperation in this rape of NOBLE, HUMBLE, PEACEABLE, LONG-SUFFERING Ukraine.
Is Belarus included in the sanctions like Russia?
Yes
Unless Russia leaves Ukraine, Ukraine will lose. Belarus is still Russia’s toady. Russia wants to stop the war to rest and rearm. Then start again at a time of its choosing!
maybe. but it will cost russia alot. it already is costing russia alot.
Do you really think Belarus had any choice about letting Russia use his country as a launch point?
Also, lukeshenko has been in power longer than Putin, and was instrumental in Putin coming to power.
Quite a few inaccuracies in this report.
I just learned that everyone else that I watch has been pronouncing Lukashenko wrong. Props for the proper way to say it.
Lukashenko may be feeling some heat from his own citizens and his dictatorship, now that Russia is too busy to back him up against any coup.
Never trust those who are with your enemy.
Not good Zelensky shaking hands with Lukashenko, and you should have Icarus Projects told people that this picture was taken 'before' the war, and placed this in context?