Excellent review - you've touched on areas that more lengthy reviewers entirely missed. Well done. (For instance, you mentioned the lack of a honky-tonk piano voice, and you actually showed the panel where the 1/4" headphone jacks are. I've seen spec sheets that erroneously claim the P225 only has one headphone jack.)
Long ago, instead of buying a nice, new car, I bought a new Petrof concert grand. I believe it was 7’6”. After about five years of owning it, I was forced to sell it. Nothing, nothing can replace the experience of that sound, except for another concert grand. Twice I had guests over who were professional, famous pianists. They played it while I walked around it. That experience was incredible.
Interesting. Did you by any chance check the static pressure needed to move C4 (I need something around 50 g - GHS action and Yamaha C7 grand piano that I play have this static pressure needed to move the key and I will not tolerate even 60g because I got into some finger joint problems after playing on P-515 for ten months) Thank you. Michael Ps. Yamaha Canada tells me that it will be available in November
When playing with headphones, how do you find the action noise - do you think it would be disruptive to housemates in another room? Thanks for your review!
It might be, I can bang on it fairly intensely and it does make a pop sound of the keys being pressed. Not horrible just depends on people’s tolerance for the noises when the keys are being hit and released
For me this 225 offers one really good piano sound and the other sounds i would almost never use. How much do you need to spend to get ten great piano sounds.
Thanks for commenting! My opinion: in the Yamaha line, you have to go up to $2k + (Clavinova CSP-150) to get something better, with multiple authentic sounds. But that seems to me anyway, like a whole lot more $$ for a few improvements. I bought the Arius for my parents and it’s in the same vein as this 225 in that it’s a good general use piano while being imounted on a cabinet for aesthetics. Maybe a Roland?
When you connected the p225 to the notebook via USB cable, the sound that came out on the piano speakers was from the virtual instrument of the notebook???
The sound out of the speakers was produced by the sound bank on the p225 piano itself at about 3:26 into the video timeline. If I were to record on the notebook, it would have recorded the sound as an electric piano as that's what track I had open at the moment. Also for what its worth, if you wanted the software (in this case Garage Band) to record the actual piano sounds played from the Yamaha piano, you can set the track on the notebook to Audio Track, as opposed to one of the many virtual instrument of the notebook. Hope that helps!
I would say it’s going to come down to the feel of it, the hammer action, and the sound bank. The P-125 is a great keyboard. It comes with many of the features on the P-225. You would do well with either really, unless your focus is on those concert grand sounds, which imo sets the P-225 apart from the P-125.
@puttothetest great! Thanks for the quick response. My sister's work place was getting rid of a krakaur bros grand upright that's probably 100 years old. I've spent the last year playing on it but It needs tuned and a bit of work so i was trying to find a good portable. I initially started learning on a rock jam semiweighted that I wasn't too fond of. Of course, by the time I commented, I had already put my order in...lol I was worried about that though. But you put it to rest so thanks!
@@jonathanbuchanan5441 coming from a grand to the p-225 is fairly good in terms of weighted keys and sound. I mean it’s not a grand piano, but it’s a good portable. I use it about as much as my upright accoustic. But at night I love playing the p-225 and putting the headphones on and playing without waking up everyone around 👍
Was able to find a Roland fp10 so not quite what you asked but based on the two, I actually prefer the Roland over the Yamaha for action, but it’s personal preference. Yamaha action is more intentional and has what i consider to be greater versatility in the softer range of playing. Roland is right smack in the middle, it’s much more fluid, the action lends to more free spirited play in my opinion. Yamaha is closer to a baby grand. Made a quick short to demonstrate the one thing about the Roland I don’t like, but it’s unrelated to the action: ruclips.net/user/shortsj8RS5wH6iKA?feature=share
When I first got the keyboard I thought it sounded amazing, however after some time with it I noticed it began to sound more and more digital and less acoustic. I don't know why but that initial tone has lost it's brilliance and it just sounds like a cheap keyboard now. I don't think it's broken or anything, I think I just used it so much that I can immediately tell it's just a fake digital imitation. Still, I play it every day, but what can I do to enhance the sound? I've tried all the settings, reverb, walleq, etc. Can a better sound be achieved via a midi cable and then using my own custom samples/synths within a DAW? I've not tried midi, but I suspect there will be a noticeable latency along with errors in transcription. In order to try it I will have to rearrange my furniture and it's going to be a rather big hassle, but if it is possible I will make it happen.
Latency as you mentioned was my first thought too with midi. Curious if these digital pianos have the equivalent of a tune up, based on how often you play. Do you have a laptop? You could temporarily experiment with midi and software and it works for what you needed, then go through the furniture moving. Maybe even do it with something like a tablet, just to get some idea what the software apps do for you and if midi latency is an issue.
Yes it does. More information is on the page marked page 30 in the reference guide at usa.yamaha.com/files/download/other_assets/4/2145734/P-225_P-223_RM_En_B0.pdf Hope this helps!
Oh I wish I could play that! No that was the end of “Starship Trooper” by Yes when @RickWakemanOfficial was touring with the band. I love the way that song rolls on and on. Thanks for watching and thanks for commenting!
@@lucynab6780 (reposting my reply cause I don't think it sent) Same here! He announced his "farewell" tour but I really hope it's not his farewell www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/rick-wakeman-farewell-tour-1234950987/ Already got my tickets :)
I will only mention the cons. It seems that the number of function buttons has been reduced for design reasons, so it is somewhat inconvenient. It seems to sell well as an interior decoration. The speaker size is small, so the sound is not that good. I think it is to reduce the unit price. I recommend listening with headphones. There are not many drum patterns. There are no basic patterns, only complex patterns. You should not think that this product is the only best choice.
From the manual, usa.yamaha.com/files/download/other_assets/4/2145734/P-225_P-223_RM_En_B0.pdf, I found this: "You can shift or transpose the pitch of the entire keyboard up or down in semitone steps. This lets you easily match the pitch of the keyboard to the range of other instruments. F#2-B2 == Shifts the pitch down from normal in semitone steps. C3 == Resets the pitch to normal. C#3-F#3 == Shifts the pitch up from normal in semitone steps." Hope that helps!
Puedes cambiar la afinación precisa de todo el piano, es decir 440Hz u otro valor diferente entre un rango cercano a 440Hz. Lo que el usuario del video te respondió es como transponer. Aunque quizá eso era lo que buscabas
@diyhobbyistcoupleph4985 According to the user manual, usa.yamaha.com/files/download/other_assets/4/2145734/P-225_P-223_RM_En_B0.pdf the voice "Gu Zheng" is available on the P-223 but not the P-225, if I read it right. See page 55.
@@diyhobbyistcoupleph4985 yeah that is odd, i can’t understand why one would have it and it would be omitted in the other model. Maybe they want us to buy both! 😂 (I hope not)
Actually the first few weeks I had it, I was playing with the pedal upside down! Until I vacuumed one day and saw the Yamaha name imprinted on the carpet, did I finally realize I had it upside down!
Excellent review - you've touched on areas that more lengthy reviewers entirely missed. Well done. (For instance, you mentioned the lack of a honky-tonk piano voice, and you actually showed the panel where the 1/4" headphone jacks are. I've seen spec sheets that erroneously claim the P225 only has one headphone jack.)
Thank you for the comment, very much appreciate it!
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Came across this on my home page, beautifully reviewed and yet underrated. Keep it up.
Thank you so much! I very much appreciate that!
Long ago, instead of buying a nice, new car, I bought a new Petrof concert grand. I believe it was 7’6”. After about five years of owning it, I was forced to sell it. Nothing, nothing can replace the experience of that sound, except for another concert grand. Twice I had guests over who were professional, famous pianists. They played it while I walked around it. That experience was incredible.
Thank you for commenting!! that is a wonderful story. Thanks for sharing it.
This is about digital pianos. Nobody is asking for a acustic grand.
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Great some one with real life review with what it sounds like in a room through the speakers.
Interesting. Did you by any chance check the static pressure needed to move C4 (I need something around 50 g - GHS action and Yamaha C7 grand piano that I play have this static pressure needed to move the key and I will not tolerate even 60g because I got into some finger joint problems after playing on P-515 for ten months)
Thank you.
Michael
Ps. Yamaha Canada tells me that it will be available in November
When playing with headphones, how do you find the action noise - do you think it would be disruptive to housemates in another room?
Thanks for your review!
It might be, I can bang on it fairly intensely and it does make a pop sound of the keys being pressed. Not horrible just depends on people’s tolerance for the noises when the keys are being hit and released
Just be thankful you don't have a drummer in our home!
That’s how every review should be
Thank you! Your comment made my day!
For me this 225 offers one really good piano sound and the other sounds i would almost never use. How much do you need to spend to get ten great piano sounds.
Thanks for commenting! My opinion: in the Yamaha line, you have to go up to $2k + (Clavinova CSP-150) to get something better, with multiple authentic sounds. But that seems to me anyway, like a whole lot more $$ for a few improvements. I bought the Arius for my parents and it’s in the same vein as this 225 in that it’s a good general use piano while being imounted on a cabinet for aesthetics. Maybe a Roland?
Try Kawai es120
When you connected the p225 to the notebook via USB cable, the sound that came out on the piano speakers was from the virtual instrument of the notebook???
The sound out of the speakers was produced by the sound bank on the p225 piano itself at about 3:26 into the video timeline. If I were to record on the notebook, it would have recorded the sound as an electric piano as that's what track I had open at the moment. Also for what its worth, if you wanted the software (in this case Garage Band) to record the actual piano sounds played from the Yamaha piano, you can set the track on the notebook to Audio Track, as opposed to one of the many virtual instrument of the notebook. Hope that helps!
What song was that when playing with headphones?
It was the keyboard riff from the end of Starship Trooper by Yes.
I appreciate the review. Bless you and your loved ones in Jesus’ Name.
Hi! Im getting my first digital piano.. do you recommend me this Yamaha p225 over the p125??
I would say it’s going to come down to the feel of it, the hammer action, and the sound bank. The P-125 is a great keyboard. It comes with many of the features on the P-225. You would do well with either really, unless your focus is on those concert grand sounds, which imo sets the P-225 apart from the P-125.
@@puttothetest thanks for your answer
Great info! Thx😊
Glad it was helpful!
Can you use other speakers via one of the aux ports and/or Bluetooth
Or are you limited to just headphones and the built in speakers?
Yes to both. It has Bluetooth which I don’t really use, and the audio out can be routed to a receiver input for speakers.
@puttothetest great! Thanks for the quick response. My sister's work place was getting rid of a krakaur bros grand upright that's probably 100 years old. I've spent the last year playing on it but It needs tuned and a bit of work so i was trying to find a good portable. I initially started learning on a rock jam semiweighted that I wasn't too fond of. Of course, by the time I commented, I had already put my order in...lol I was worried about that though. But you put it to rest so thanks!
@@jonathanbuchanan5441 coming from a grand to the p-225 is fairly good in terms of weighted keys and sound. I mean it’s not a grand piano, but it’s a good portable. I use it about as much as my upright accoustic. But at night I love playing the p-225 and putting the headphones on and playing without waking up everyone around 👍
What is you opinion on the key action? I'm between this one and the fp30x. People usually say the Roland has the closest to an acoustic piano.
Was able to find a Roland fp10 so not quite what you asked but based on the two, I actually prefer the Roland over the Yamaha for action, but it’s personal preference. Yamaha action is more intentional and has what i consider to be greater versatility in the softer range of playing. Roland is right smack in the middle, it’s much more fluid, the action lends to more free spirited play in my opinion. Yamaha is closer to a baby grand. Made a quick short to demonstrate the one thing about the Roland I don’t like, but it’s unrelated to the action:
ruclips.net/user/shortsj8RS5wH6iKA?feature=share
Thank you for the reply, really helped me deciding. Ended up buying the roland. Thanks.
Awesome! Hope you enjoy it!
It's a mater of personal preference. Try them out for yourself in a shop. I personally didn't necessarily enjoy playing the Roland digital pianos
Nice video helps a lot
Beautiful piano, I love piano. Ok thanks.
Thank you for the comment!
When I first got the keyboard I thought it sounded amazing, however after some time with it I noticed it began to sound more and more digital and less acoustic. I don't know why but that initial tone has lost it's brilliance and it just sounds like a cheap keyboard now. I don't think it's broken or anything, I think I just used it so much that I can immediately tell it's just a fake digital imitation. Still, I play it every day, but what can I do to enhance the sound? I've tried all the settings, reverb, walleq, etc. Can a better sound be achieved via a midi cable and then using my own custom samples/synths within a DAW? I've not tried midi, but I suspect there will be a noticeable latency along with errors in transcription. In order to try it I will have to rearrange my furniture and it's going to be a rather big hassle, but if it is possible I will make it happen.
Latency as you mentioned was my first thought too with midi. Curious if these digital pianos have the equivalent of a tune up, based on how often you play. Do you have a laptop? You could temporarily experiment with midi and software and it works for what you needed, then go through the furniture moving. Maybe even do it with something like a tablet, just to get some idea what the software apps do for you and if midi latency is an issue.
Does it have a transpose feature?
Yes it does. More information is on the page marked page 30 in the reference guide at usa.yamaha.com/files/download/other_assets/4/2145734/P-225_P-223_RM_En_B0.pdf Hope this helps!
It's a shame that there's no octave transposition, although there is a transposition function.
Was Nirvana "Heart shaped box" at the end of your video?
Oh I wish I could play that! No that was the end of “Starship Trooper” by Yes when @RickWakemanOfficial was touring with the band. I love the way that song rolls on and on. Thanks for watching and thanks for commenting!
@@puttothetest Rick Wakeman is an amazing pianist!!! I love YES ❤
@@lucynab6780 (reposting my reply cause I don't think it sent) Same here! He announced his "farewell" tour but I really hope it's not his farewell www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/rick-wakeman-farewell-tour-1234950987/ Already got my tickets :)
@@puttothetest 💪💪💪❤❤❤ cooolll!!!
I will only mention the cons. It seems that the number of function buttons has been reduced for design reasons, so it is somewhat inconvenient. It seems to sell well as an interior decoration. The speaker size is small, so the sound is not that good. I think it is to reduce the unit price. I recommend listening with headphones. There are not many drum patterns. There are no basic patterns, only complex patterns. You should not think that this product is the only best choice.
Thanks for the info!
Does it have a quarter tone feature for oriental music?
From the manual, usa.yamaha.com/files/download/other_assets/4/2145734/P-225_P-223_RM_En_B0.pdf, I found this:
"You can shift or transpose the pitch of the entire keyboard up or down in semitone steps. This lets you easily match the pitch of the keyboard to the range of other instruments.
F#2-B2 == Shifts the pitch down from normal in semitone steps.
C3 == Resets the pitch to normal.
C#3-F#3 == Shifts the pitch up from normal in semitone steps."
Hope that helps!
@@puttothetest thank you for your helpfulness
Puedes cambiar la afinación precisa de todo el piano, es decir 440Hz u otro valor diferente entre un rango cercano a 440Hz. Lo que el usuario del video te respondió es como transponer. Aunque quizá eso era lo que buscabas
@@ayrtoninchejanampa6874 gracias por la aclaración y por ver el video. agradezco la información.
Many thanks.
How many rhythms are there.
20 out of the box rhythms. You can make minor changes once you select the initial rhythm.
Haha greag review.. Only a nerd would say " Let the P from Yamaha not confuse you with P value of statistics."
Happy learning, folks 😀
lol thanks for the comment!
Does this have a Guzheng instrument voice?
@diyhobbyistcoupleph4985 According to the user manual, usa.yamaha.com/files/download/other_assets/4/2145734/P-225_P-223_RM_En_B0.pdf the voice "Gu Zheng" is available on the P-223 but not the P-225, if I read it right. See page 55.
@@puttothetest That's what I also understand that it's only available in P223. Thank you very much for the reply.
@@diyhobbyistcoupleph4985 yeah that is odd, i can’t understand why one would have it and it would be omitted in the other model. Maybe they want us to buy both! 😂 (I hope not)
@@puttothetest that's business.lol
@@diyhobbyistcoupleph4985 Hahahaha! true true!!
I THOUGHT THE PEDAL WAS PLAYED UPSIDE DOWN NOT LIKE THAT xddd
Actually the first few weeks I had it, I was playing with the pedal upside down! Until I vacuumed one day and saw the Yamaha name imprinted on the carpet, did I finally realize I had it upside down!
@@puttothetest thanks for telling me!
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