The bite force of the dunk was actually a lot less mythical than commonly believed. The myth comes from the fact that psi is really unreliable unless you know what you're doing with measuring. In fact, there are measurements of the dunks bite from 1k to 80k psi. It's why bite forces in newtons are more accurate, and if you measure it in newtons, you end up with a bite half as strong as that of a great white. Goji centre explains this better in their indom 2.0 Vs Hank video
It will never cease to amaze me just how wildly different our planet was in the past. No matter how many alien worlds I see in sci-fi, they'll never hold a candle to our own planet's evolution.
Subnautica definitely helped me cope better with our life on earth. I think I've actually had more nightmares of being on that planet than I have of our own oceans. Granted that's not including lakes and rivers I've been to lol. People have died in a nearby lake that's not connected to any rivers and the bodies never found. Plus even being near the lake gives a sense of dread where as a river we have nearby has a higher possibility of dangerous lifeforms as muscles and fish are commonly seen. Not just small fish either.
@@vincenttrigg4521just curious what lake and river are you referring to? I have a thing for researching dangerous bodies of water and the possibility of finding a new one always seems to pique my interest.
@TheMattC9999 here's the thing... it's a man made pond at Whitecourt Alberta. It's basically having a water park built beside it and encourages people not to swim in the pond. The "pond" is really deep and very cloudy. Not connecting to any other bodies of water. Also it's no longer called "rotary park". It got rebranded as "Festival Park". The way people have died is almost always due to their own fault. The way the pond was designed is it starts off shallow then has a super steep drop. Again it's dark and cloudy so a lot of people have misjudged the depth. I'm honestly unsure of the death counter but I know at least 2 have died due to trying to dive or flip into the water, and odds are there's some that have drowned. There's tons of people who've rode (probably stolen) bikes into the water and either thought they could carry it back or purposely let it sink. Lots of stuff left in there to polite the water. :/ I don't know what it is but I used to go skating there in the winter after it was smoothed out by someone and despite it being a large pond/small lake I swear I saw something large move beneath the ice several times. All of this has given me several dreams which can't apply to real life. One was a species of merfolk that had a tunnel that saved those in desperate survival situations. So someone injured themselves and was taken into hidden underground water caverns. At the time in life, I was having to deal with my father who was verbally, emotionally, psychologically, and financially abusive. So when I saw the merfolk I begged them to take me away. I had an ability to hold my breath for an extremely long time so that's the first thing they questioned. Next was that I couldn't ever return which I had no problem with. I wasn't on good terms with siblings and even though I loved my mom, the cons out weighed the pros. So I left. Another dream, the entire lake/pond was a creatures mouth. You can imagine hoe that went. And another had aquatic dragon's living inside it and several other ditches that filled with water. So yeah. Real life unanswered questions has lead to weird dreams. The unanswered question being "where did the bodies go?" Like I'm sure there's plenty of ways for authorities to find the bodies. First off would be divers with high powered lights. Next would be sonar. Also... aren't we supposed to float if we get knocked unconscious? Even for a bit? I just am baffled on how some of the bodies never were found. All that the news has covered is the ones that were found. Which I find super bizarre.
One of my favorite predatory prehistoric fish is Xiphactinus. Mostly because we actually have a famous fossil of one choking and dying due to trying to eat a 6foot relative called Gillicus. Poor buddy’s eyes were larger than its stomach in that moment.
@@Chayr2 They can, but the Gillicus swallowed was the size of a large person and it basically was too large for the fish to ingest properly and the fish probably thrashed inside of it, rupturing its stomach or damaging a vital organ, killing both. Kinda like how alligators in Florida have been found dead alongside an invasive reticulated python with its stomach and body ruptured. Think of it like this, a person can swallow a whole cherry or small ice cub whole, but we don’t. Why? Becuase there’s a huge chance it can stuck in our esophagus and we can suffocate as a result.
As I once said to a former colleague "I hate water, there's things swimming in it that want to eat you. What doesn't wat to eat you wants to swim up your bottom and treat your internal organs like a water park." My colleague turned to me and said 'You must have some awful nightmares.'
debatable, we might be land based but we aren’t instinctively programmed to be scared of the ocean, hence scuba divers, we are complex creatures with various of fears and personalities
I was just going to say ...the creatures are irrelevent. Deep water will drown the hell out of you. Being afraid of shallow waters ok id say that's irrational. But deep water? Sane.
@@IamProcoolwe are scared of not breathing. In any body of water. Deep water being notoriously bereft of breath. Only with a breathing apparatus does anyone do deep diving.
@@tyler6971 88 people including myself agree over the 4 people that disagree including you. This reply makes absolutely no sense, you may want to delete this.
I was snorkeling around some coral mounds one day, marveling at the sights while trying avoid the numerous sea urchins infesting it. A couple of clown fish were darting out of their anemone home and taking tiny bites ate my elbow. Never knew they were so small. I don't to stress them any further so I swam further down the mound. When I reached the end of the coral mounds I looked ahead. The bottom of the sea sloped straight right into a black, seemingly bottomless void. I immediately swam back to the beach.
While playing GTA 5 I ended up in the ocean. My character looked down into a dark blue abyss. I just turned off my PS4 and walked away. Even in a game it makes me feel terrible.
@@ryanglobe416never fall of your ship in sea of thieves . I paniced so hart😂 so funny my best firiend cant stay on the ship without getting ill and im afraid of the deep water . Best ever pirate crew
We were once far more susceptible to such fears of the natural world. People also no longer find vast, wild alpine mountain ranges scary ... But they probably should!
1:50 Imagine the strength of hurricanes in a world covered by that much warm water, with almost no barriers to slow wind speeds. I bet being on land was Awful!
You're exactly right. I had to pause and expand the map of what our earth would look like submerged. Only the west side of both North and South America would be dry.
Thalassophobia is one of those phobias that makes perfect sense from a biological standpoint. Billions of years of evolution have programed the need to be aware of any potential dangers into our brains, and in a environment where we are very much out of place as non-aquatic creatures, our minds make us default to the worst case scenario in an attempt to prepare us for what might come.
So a fish as big as a Great White, heavier than it, covered in thick bones, it's mouth having literal bone plates with more power than a glock, and a jaw that opens at twice the speed of a blink......I need an adult.
@@a.s.raiyan2003-4 I mean, hey, at least it’ll be quick. Can’t say the same for Xiphactinus though. Guy who just swallow you whole while you’re still alive.
@@MrPokerblotsomeone saying something like “A bird as large as a cassowary” isn’t grammatically incorrect so you aren’t being pedantic you’re just wrong
Considering diets of other living species, different Air percentages of gas, different vegetation that herbivores ate to then be ate by carnivores; I'd say yes.
That's the period in time when game developers refused to implement player suggested changes. Player: "Devs can you please implement a party finder?" Devs: "No."
I have UNHEALTHY Thalassophobia. I like the empty space. Id like to be left alone in a spaceship for 50y completely alone staring into nothingness, but water..... Completely different story. Even if there are no dangerous creatures. Even if i was on a (tall) island, so i can't be submerged, id fear the endlessness
@TheTinFoilBall I drowned as a toddler, barely survived, was sucked into an underwater cave into a truck that was sucked there during the floods that devastated our town, I saved the breath from the small air pocket and got saved at the last second. So I still can't swim and don't go into water, but it's not about that at all. I could be safe even in hot air balloon over the sea, I'd die of fear even if I saw land ho 50 meters away
I mean, phobias by principle are irrational, so there's no use asking why you fear the endlessness of the sea when space is the same thing but bigger. It's all about experience therefore. I would know, I have Icthyophobia, and it developed as a series of being creeped out by fish, and nearly dying in the process of trying to see or catch a fish. I eventually subconciously learned to just not be anywhere near even an image of a fish. And just because I recognise how irrational it is does not help conquer it. And quite frankly I don't want to, it makes for a good laugh even if I have to be the butt of the joke for it.
I once had a dream I jumped to a murky lake and got impaled trough a spice that had a centipede looking thing around it and I trashed myself off and the centipede put it's head in the hole that was made on my leg and wrapped around my leg tighter than a human grip. I got paralysed and almost drowned. A doctor came out of nowhere and tried to take off the centipede, but it WENT COMPLETELY INSIDE MY LEG and that's when I woke up
I don't have thalassophobia, but I fear deep open waters. That's a rational fear. If you fear being killed in a car accident, avoiding drinking and driving isn't a phobia, it's sanity.
phobias are irrational fears. nobody wants to die in a car accident but if your fear is so irrational it hinders your ability to drive a car or to simply get into one, that's a phobia
That makes no damn sense bc those are two different things... If you fear something, you have a phobia, why is so many being such a bunch of kids about it, whining that "boohoo I don't have a phobia!!! Even tho I'm afraid of the thing I claim not having a phobia of!!!"... There's no shame in that, me myself think deep seas are cool and mysterious, but I don't still wanna be in a car accident, so I am rational.. Man up and own your fears, nothing to be ashamed of having a phobia, doesn't make you any less man/woman
1:28 i would have still been terrified before the time period where organisms that could and would kill you existed, just because the ocean is the ocean, a big body of water.
Somehow a video about thalassophobia was made and no one's made a Subnautica reference yet. "Multiple leviathan-class life forms detected. Are you sure whatever you're doing is worth it?"
To be honest, I wasn't expecting anything special when I clicked on this video, but to my surprise, I found one of the most interestind video I ever watch in 4 years on yt, and by extend, one of the best channel I ever discovered. Keep it up and may your channel grow to 1 millon sub
In the 1980s a 24 foot great white was tagged in its dorsal fin with a tracking device that could monitor depth and temps. After a while all of the sudden the temperature shot upward while the shark plunged to massive depths faster than any great white had ever been recorded diving. Months later the device was found washed ashore in Oregon bleached white. After being tested it was found that the bleaching had been done by some sort of stomach acid. To this day it remains unsolved what could have eaten it and dove that deep, that fast.
Shark Bytes just covered this recently. The temperature the probe went to inside the belly of whatever ate it was what we know sharks digest at. Killer and Sperm whales digest at different temps to this one.
@@Grapsusgrapsusas far as I know, they don't hunt sharks. They wouldn't travel all the way to the surface to grab a single one, anyways. Could be possible, but just based off of what I know of both animals, I'd say it's not likely.
If Dunkleosteus had a shorter bulky body like a Bluefin Tuna, what if it was as FAST as a Bluefin Tuna ... That thought is horrifying. Imagine one of these things taking your head clean off at the speed of a sports car.
Your videos are incredibly interesting to me and almost make me want to switch majors to learn about this kind of stuff. Realistically I can't but it's still so fun to learn about all these cool creatures and why I'm glad they don't exist today.
I don't have thalassophobia. My problem is shipwrecks and man made things sitting in the vast empty void abandoned, forgotten, also underwater mines. Those terrify me, think of the diseases, getting lost down there. Etc.
I'd argue that the ocean from the Silurian is worse for no other reason than because land ecosystems weren't yet developed enough to sustain large vertebrate life; meaning, you're either going in the water or you're going straight to the grave.
I hope for a Walking With Dinosaurs style Documentary or Prehistoric Planet Style Dinosaur Documentary for Prehistoric Fish narrated by Jeremy Wade from River Monsters! 😎👍🎬💯
It’s not exactly what you want but there is a prequel to “Walking with Dinosaurs” called “Walking with Monsters” that cover all life before dinosaurs and how it got there. Hope this helped! 😊
I’d argue the moment we grew to fear the ocean is the moment our amphibious ancestors became reptiles. At that point our species said “we’re never going back”
That was amazing, I kept thinking that maybe these species evolved into others but didn't expect for them to go completely extinct! Thanks for the video!
Interestingly, the ocean is pretty safe for humans from a wildelife perspective. Not much is really interested in eating a large, skinny mammal. The only things that would actively hunt us in depths we can dive are Humboldt squid, tigersharks,and leopard seals. Almost all sharks are uninterested or simply curious, it's just unfortunate that they can only explore with their mouths. Big fish like grouper dont seem to care, and whales actually try to save people. The ocean seems to only be a horror show for those who evolved in it. We imagine that dunkleosteus and mosasaur would be man-eating monsters, but who knows? Maybe we are too strange for them. Sea scorpions would probably fuck us up, though.
Big sharks are absolutely interested in eating people, they're just (relatively) safe because most people swim around fat, well-fed sharks who don't have any need to eat at the moment. You don't want to be around an "inquisitive" oceanic whitetip because living out on the open sea far away from the teeming shores, they'll take any meal opportunity they can get.
That’s why I truly love watching new discoveries in the deep ocean. And also games that makes u feel so small and helpless in the depths of the ocean. I wish there was more games like Submautica
Where did you get that clip of that guy holding the sea scorpion? That just unlocked a childhood memory of watching that dvd when I was really little. If anyone knows the name of it, that would be great.
It starts with the analysis of the bite forces of whichever group of animals determined to likely be the closest living relatives of your specimen. After that you would want to determine the likeliest characteristics for your specimen that contribute to the force/pressure of an organisms action of adducting their jaw. The most common characteristics being musculature of the jaw, skull, and possibly neck and upper back; the type, size, and positions of muscles, muscle attachments, muscle origins, and other tissues or anatomical structures associated with mastication; and probably more things that would take too long to mention. These characteristics would also likely be determined by comparison to your specimens closest living relatives. It’s also worth considering the environmental and ecological factors that could affect how and why a relative bite force is evolutionarily selected for in the first place. For example, determining the specimens diet, position in food chain, type of predation, habitat, ability to process its food, and definitely many other things. Finally, all the compiled data would be converted into mathematical data (if it can be properly quantified) so that it can be plugged into a mathematical formula that is used to measure bite force. This is usually done with advanced computers that can also run parameters thousands of times to confirm in reproducibility of results. So while we cant technically measure or extrapolate the bite force of a fossilized animal to a certainty, we can produce accurate estimates based on newest research of an extinct specimen and known biological factors.
I need to know your sources my guy I could be wrong but im pretty sure that pls correct me if i am wrong 4m is the newest most widely accepted and accurate length for dunkeleosteus I dont think it was 5m It was a recent study too around 2023 And iv never seen any scientific claims that dunkeleosteus had twice the bite force of o.megladon 80k psi for a 4m animal is crazy Pretty sure it was around 8k And isnt dunkeleosteus more suited for slicing and sheering off meat rather than crushing bones like o.megladon Idk I want to see the sources im aware i also dont have any but im on my phone rn ill try to find the papers when im home and on my pc
The 5m claim is nitpicking on my part I think it's still within reason but the 80kpsi is what's having me jump out of my seat That has to be a mistake or I'm widely uninformed
@@acewhisper38272 @zenthic8 1. It was a joke. 2. The oceans today are still scary, but not as scary as the prehistoric waters so even now it’s still scary but not to the degree as the past
@@acewhisper38272he isn't wrong. The ocean can still kill you, and it can still be scary encountering something like a shark. So, hypothetically, this comment is right.
My strange addiction is having a gut wrenching fear of the water and things in it, and watching content about that exact thing, staring at the thing that makes my spine tingle in a bad way.
Recent evidence indicates that Dunkleosteus was not as large as many have thought. Certainly menacing but not a giant. 3-4 meters is bad enough to encounter.
@ 6:07 Why is it that every time somebody compares something to a .50 caliber weapon, they always choose the wrong one? Here he is talking about the .50bmg, he shows a desert eagle. Another video, guy was talking about a .50 caliber black powder rifle used in the civil war and shows the round for a .50bmg. Yet another video they were talking about a .50 s&w and they proceed to show a (presumably) .50 caliber minne ball.... Seriously? 😂
Hey ppl who don't know guns don't know what they dont know about guns 😂😂 tbf this guy sounds European (there gun laws suck) and most youtubers arnt the kind of ppl who would own guns.
Too be fair, we know so much more about marine life now than we used to. We know what horrors currently exist and have existed, so we also know the possibilities of what could exist that we could be simply just missing. There's just so much ocean to land ratio and we as humans primarily live on the surface of land. We can occupy spaces beneath land and below it but only to a certain extent. Those that live in the water have an extremely more spacious area to survive, live, and thrive. We discover so many more life forms in water each year than we do on land, and that's from what we do discover. Some areas we can't even explore due to the pressure of the depths, yet things still live even there because "life finds a way". And the water levels are rising. Allowing more space for life to grow. On top of all that, we have the internet. Information is passed so much more easily than it used to be. So many books are outdated as more and more discoveries are made. A blessing and a curse.
Very good, thank you. You mentioned conodonts - now there's a rabbit hole to dive down. What were they? Why were they so successful for so long? Why did they finally go extinct? How did their mouths work? ...and on a possibly related subject: Is the standard reconstruction all wrong? Consider - what's an animal with so few neurons that was probably a 'mud wriggler' doing with eyes that size? Maybe they aren't, and maybe those 'nostrils' are eye spots?
Funnily enough, though I’ve got thalassophobia, the Dunkleosteus is my favorite prehistoric animal. Weird how that happened, but I guess the two were just completely unconnected in my mind (I got the fear from Subnautica surprise surprise, and I fell in love with the big jaw fishy bois before that, thanks to a Jurassic park game)
I have thalassophobia and I honestly think all the deep sea life is cool, especially the prehistoric weirdos that popped up. What really terrifies me is the ocean itself, the deep yawning abyss that threatens to drag down anything and everything that enters it, never to be seen again.
I gotta thank you once again. You are perfect in your thorough studies. If you know how I can get a paleontology job without a degree, I'd love to hear it. Right on brada🤙
Something about floating helplessly in a dark void, vaguely aware of a massive prehistoric creature swimming near you brings out the primeval fear in me.
I think Heterosteus and Titanichthys are subject to the same size reduction as Dunkleosteus, so they wouldn't be longer, in fact Dunkleosteus would still be the biggest Placoderm. This is based on the fact that while the larger estimates for size are based on comparisons with much smaller relatives, the smaller estimates are based on a study finding an overwhelmingly convincing correlation between total body length and certain skull properties in most living and extinct fish. Also, I wouldn't forget either that during the Devonian, there were other scary fish like the Anvil Fish Stethacanthus as well as the early elasmobranch fish, close relatives of sharks and rays, such as Antarctilamna ultima, which was bigger than a human.
If you thought thalassophobia was dead, I leave you this this: ruclips.net/video/YVfW-8rao-A/видео.html
Oy was not expecting that 😂
There's a misspelling at 1:33
That's a face hugger from the alien movie 😮😮😮😮
The bite force of the dunk was actually a lot less mythical than commonly believed. The myth comes from the fact that psi is really unreliable unless you know what you're doing with measuring. In fact, there are measurements of the dunks bite from 1k to 80k psi. It's why bite forces in newtons are more accurate, and if you measure it in newtons, you end up with a bite half as strong as that of a great white. Goji centre explains this better in their indom 2.0 Vs Hank video
There's not enough space between the very start of the vid, and you saying Thalassophobia. Pedantic I.
It will never cease to amaze me just how wildly different our planet was in the past. No matter how many alien worlds I see in sci-fi, they'll never hold a candle to our own planet's evolution.
Subnautica definitely helped me cope better with our life on earth. I think I've actually had more nightmares of being on that planet than I have of our own oceans. Granted that's not including lakes and rivers I've been to lol. People have died in a nearby lake that's not connected to any rivers and the bodies never found. Plus even being near the lake gives a sense of dread where as a river we have nearby has a higher possibility of dangerous lifeforms as muscles and fish are commonly seen. Not just small fish either.
@@vincenttrigg4521just curious what lake and river are you referring to? I have a thing for researching dangerous bodies of water and the possibility of finding a new one always seems to pique my interest.
@TheMattC9999 here's the thing... it's a man made pond at Whitecourt Alberta. It's basically having a water park built beside it and encourages people not to swim in the pond. The "pond" is really deep and very cloudy. Not connecting to any other bodies of water.
Also it's no longer called "rotary park". It got rebranded as "Festival Park". The way people have died is almost always due to their own fault. The way the pond was designed is it starts off shallow then has a super steep drop. Again it's dark and cloudy so a lot of people have misjudged the depth. I'm honestly unsure of the death counter but I know at least 2 have died due to trying to dive or flip into the water, and odds are there's some that have drowned. There's tons of people who've rode (probably stolen) bikes into the water and either thought they could carry it back or purposely let it sink. Lots of stuff left in there to polite the water. :/
I don't know what it is but I used to go skating there in the winter after it was smoothed out by someone and despite it being a large pond/small lake I swear I saw something large move beneath the ice several times.
All of this has given me several dreams which can't apply to real life. One was a species of merfolk that had a tunnel that saved those in desperate survival situations. So someone injured themselves and was taken into hidden underground water caverns. At the time in life, I was having to deal with my father who was verbally, emotionally, psychologically, and financially abusive. So when I saw the merfolk I begged them to take me away. I had an ability to hold my breath for an extremely long time so that's the first thing they questioned. Next was that I couldn't ever return which I had no problem with. I wasn't on good terms with siblings and even though I loved my mom, the cons out weighed the pros. So I left.
Another dream, the entire lake/pond was a creatures mouth. You can imagine hoe that went.
And another had aquatic dragon's living inside it and several other ditches that filled with water.
So yeah. Real life unanswered questions has lead to weird dreams. The unanswered question being "where did the bodies go?" Like I'm sure there's plenty of ways for authorities to find the bodies. First off would be divers with high powered lights. Next would be sonar. Also... aren't we supposed to float if we get knocked unconscious? Even for a bit?
I just am baffled on how some of the bodies never were found.
All that the news has covered is the ones that were found. Which I find super bizarre.
Sorry...its a game@@TheMattC9999
@@vincenttrigg4521 brain eating amoebas
One of my favorite predatory prehistoric fish is Xiphactinus. Mostly because we actually have a famous fossil of one choking and dying due to trying to eat a 6foot relative called Gillicus. Poor buddy’s eyes were larger than its stomach in that moment.
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The one at the Royal Tyrrell Museum right?
it doesnt look like it choked. the other fish is fully in its belly... was a cool story too bad its false.
Can't they eat like x2 their size and they were like minimum 13 feet long...
@@Chayr2 They can, but the Gillicus swallowed was the size of a large person and it basically was too large for the fish to ingest properly and the fish probably thrashed inside of it, rupturing its stomach or damaging a vital organ, killing both. Kinda like how alligators in Florida have been found dead alongside an invasive reticulated python with its stomach and body ruptured. Think of it like this, a person can swallow a whole cherry or small ice cub whole, but we don’t. Why? Becuase there’s a huge chance it can stuck in our esophagus and we can suffocate as a result.
As I once said to a former colleague "I hate water, there's things swimming in it that want to eat you. What doesn't wat to eat you wants to swim up your bottom and treat your internal organs like a water park."
My colleague turned to me and said 'You must have some awful nightmares.'
We do have awful nightmares..
Being adult aware of the dangers of the world is a bless. Cause when i was a child (i dunno why) i thought i was never going to die.
Thalassophobia isn't a legitimate phobia because it's completely reasonable to be afraid of deep open water as a land-based organism.
debatable, we might be land based but we aren’t instinctively programmed to be scared of the ocean, hence scuba divers, we are complex creatures with various of fears and personalities
I was just going to say ...the creatures are irrelevent. Deep water will drown the hell out of you. Being afraid of shallow waters ok id say that's irrational. But deep water? Sane.
@@IamProcoolwe are scared of not breathing. In any body of water. Deep water being notoriously bereft of breath. Only with a breathing apparatus does anyone do deep diving.
This makes absolutely no sense, might want to delete this.
@@tyler6971 88 people including myself agree over the 4 people that disagree including you. This reply makes absolutely no sense, you may want to delete this.
"There's always a bigger fish"
-Qui-Gon Jinn
That scene genuinely terrified me as a kid 😅
That scene made me want to go fishing.. though with those monsters, I'd probably need a hook and cable made of durasteel and a crane.
@@VarangianGuard13 You'd need a bigger crane
@@xSkye629x There's always a bigger crane,
@@underbjorn Orbital Harpoon ;)
I was snorkeling around some coral mounds one day, marveling at the sights while trying avoid the numerous sea urchins infesting it. A couple of clown fish were darting out of their anemone home and taking tiny bites ate my elbow. Never knew they were so small. I don't to stress them any further so I swam further down the mound.
When I reached the end of the coral mounds I looked ahead. The bottom of the sea sloped straight right into a black, seemingly bottomless void. I immediately swam back to the beach.
I can feel it just imagining that, lol.
While playing GTA 5 I ended up in the ocean. My character looked down into a dark blue abyss. I just turned off my PS4 and walked away. Even in a game it makes me feel terrible.
@@ryanglobe416 The same feeling every time I play Subnautica. Although, having vehicles made it less terrifying.
@@ryanglobe416never fall of your ship in sea of thieves . I paniced so hart😂 so funny my best firiend cant stay on the ship without getting ill and im afraid of the deep water . Best ever pirate crew
We were once far more susceptible to such fears of the natural world.
People also no longer find vast, wild alpine mountain ranges scary ... But they probably should!
1:50 Imagine the strength of hurricanes in a world covered by that much warm water, with almost no barriers to slow wind speeds. I bet being on land was Awful!
😮 damn hadn't thought about that...better be in a cave crying
You're exactly right. I had to pause and expand the map of what our earth would look like submerged. Only the west side of both North and South America would be dry.
Thalassophobia is one of those phobias that makes perfect sense from a biological standpoint. Billions of years of evolution have programed the need to be aware of any potential dangers into our brains, and in a environment where we are very much out of place as non-aquatic creatures, our minds make us default to the worst case scenario in an attempt to prepare us for what might come.
Honestly, I find people that don't have some form of thalassophobia to be abnormal. And I don't mean that in a mean way or anything.
So a fish as big as a Great White, heavier than it, covered in thick bones, it's mouth having literal bone plates with more power than a glock, and a jaw that opens at twice the speed of a blink......I need an adult.
Sorry I’m going to pedantic here but a great white is a fish 😊
@MrPokerblot Damn grammar nazis -_ -
I am aware that a Great White which is a shark is a fish
@@a.s.raiyan2003-4 I mean, hey, at least it’ll be quick. Can’t say the same for Xiphactinus though. Guy who just swallow you whole while you’re still alive.
@@MrPokerblotsomeone saying something like “A bird as large as a cassowary” isn’t grammatically incorrect so you aren’t being pedantic you’re just wrong
@ I will call the police if you make that mistake agian 🫵
I wonder if these animals tasted different than todays
Da real questions I need answered lol
Considering diets of other living species, different Air percentages of gas, different vegetation that herbivores ate to then be ate by carnivores; I'd say yes.
a time traveller needs to create a time travelling restaurant I for one would love to have these fish for lunch or dinner
@@mathieuleader8601 I guess we'll have to wait until the resaurant at the end of the universe is established.
Tastes like heavy metals poisoning.
Dunkleosteus is such a scary predator despite its small size
small relativ to others
small? It was 3-4 meters long and ridiculously stocky, much bigger than any human
13 to 33 feet is NOT small
'They shrunk the dunk'
Potat :)
1:33 "The Devnoian"
I just love how you come up with amazing ideas for new vids. This one is amazing.
I was like 🤔
I couldn’t help being bothered by it.😂
@@HCLSaltsaaaaaaaame!! Ugh. So much effort into it and then that.
That's the period in time when game developers refused to implement player suggested changes.
Player: "Devs can you please implement a party finder?"
Devs: "No."
@@WolfA4 😂😂😂
22:54 “Mother Nature decided to nerf life…”
Tier Zoo calls her “the devs”.
Mother nature, God, Gods, all of them are considered "The devs"
@@Deathtoast509you can't just go ahead and say god is the reason
@@BtoolsDude I'm saying that tierzoo calls all of those things, people and powers "The Devs"
@Deathtoast509 ok
@@BtoolsDude Why not? He just did it.
I have UNHEALTHY Thalassophobia.
I like the empty space. Id like to be left alone in a spaceship for 50y completely alone staring into nothingness, but water..... Completely different story. Even if there are no dangerous creatures. Even if i was on a (tall) island, so i can't be submerged, id fear the endlessness
Dang :(
@TheTinFoilBall I drowned as a toddler, barely survived, was sucked into an underwater cave into a truck that was sucked there during the floods that devastated our town, I saved the breath from the small air pocket and got saved at the last second. So I still can't swim and don't go into water, but it's not about that at all. I could be safe even in hot air balloon over the sea, I'd die of fear even if I saw land ho 50 meters away
@@g.h.milanboseblut5616relatable
I mean, phobias by principle are irrational, so there's no use asking why you fear the endlessness of the sea when space is the same thing but bigger.
It's all about experience therefore.
I would know, I have Icthyophobia, and it developed as a series of being creeped out by fish, and nearly dying in the process of trying to see or catch a fish.
I eventually subconciously learned to just not be anywhere near even an image of a fish.
And just because I recognise how irrational it is does not help conquer it.
And quite frankly I don't want to, it makes for a good laugh even if I have to be the butt of the joke for it.
I once had a dream I jumped to a murky lake and got impaled trough a spice that had a centipede looking thing around it and I trashed myself off and the centipede put it's head in the hole that was made on my leg and wrapped around my leg tighter than a human grip. I got paralysed and almost drowned. A doctor came out of nowhere and tried to take off the centipede, but it WENT COMPLETELY INSIDE MY LEG and that's when I woke up
Love that you included footage from Nigel Marven's Sea Monsters. That series was awesome.
Jeremy Wade would’ve had a field day with those river monsters
FISH ON!!!
I wanna see him reel a giant Hyneria and listen to him explain it and the rumors surrounding it.
Please he’s all out of river monsters in the present age
He's casually gonna explain why the rumours are fake while holding a Megaldon by the tail.
I always imagined Jeremy Wade as one of the fighters in record of Ragnarok. "The fisher of all that calls the oceans its home. " The dude is badass.
The only reason why i knew of the Dunkleosteus existence before this video is because of Hungry Shark. Such a classic mobile game.
Damn right ,but for me I know about it first from walking with dinosaurs trilogy sea monsters.
The best channel about extinct animals in the entire RUclips, cheers from Brazil.
I agree, cheers from America
I don't have thalassophobia, but I fear deep open waters. That's a rational fear. If you fear being killed in a car accident, avoiding drinking and driving isn't a phobia, it's sanity.
phobias are irrational fears. nobody wants to die in a car accident but if your fear is so irrational it hinders your ability to drive a car or to simply get into one, that's a phobia
@@capitansalchi8229 unless they have some traumatic reason it stems from, that would not be a phobia it'd be PTS
That makes no damn sense bc those are two different things... If you fear something, you have a phobia, why is so many being such a bunch of kids about it, whining that "boohoo I don't have a phobia!!! Even tho I'm afraid of the thing I claim not having a phobia of!!!"... There's no shame in that, me myself think deep seas are cool and mysterious, but I don't still wanna be in a car accident, so I am rational.. Man up and own your fears, nothing to be ashamed of having a phobia, doesn't make you any less man/woman
@@stackflow343Tomato tomatoe....
everyone has those fears. phobias aren’t normal fears, they are intense and IRRATIONAL.
you should cover all prehistoric extinction events I think they’re interesting
Yeah He could make like a 5 part series covering the 5 mass extinction events
As someone with thalassophobia, I can confirm that it feels scarier than you think.
Just laying in my bed and watching this triggers my thalassophobia. Yet somehow i cant stop watching it
1:28 i would have still been terrified before the time period where organisms that could and would kill you existed, just because the ocean is the ocean, a big body of water.
Somehow a video about thalassophobia was made and no one's made a Subnautica reference yet.
"Multiple leviathan-class life forms detected. Are you sure whatever you're doing is worth it?"
oh i love subnautica
Because not everything has to be an overdone pop culture reference
@@davidlane1248is that a motherfucking Jojo reference???
“Thanks PDA lady, very cool. Now that I shat my pants for the nth time I’m sure no leviathan will come near me”
Congratulations, you have.
To be honest, I wasn't expecting anything special when I clicked on this video, but to my surprise, I found one of the most interestind video I ever watch in 4 years on yt, and by extend, one of the best channel I ever discovered. Keep it up and may your channel grow to 1 millon sub
In the 1980s a 24 foot great white was tagged in its dorsal fin with a tracking device that could monitor depth and temps. After a while all of the sudden the temperature shot upward while the shark plunged to massive depths faster than any great white had ever been recorded diving. Months later the device was found washed ashore in Oregon bleached white. After being tested it was found that the bleaching had been done by some sort of stomach acid. To this day it remains unsolved what could have eaten it and dove that deep, that fast.
Damm 24 feet is massive and sperm whales don't hunt sharks as far as I know.
Giant squid?
I read it was only a 12-14 foot juvenile great white.
Shark Bytes just covered this recently. The temperature the probe went to inside the belly of whatever ate it was what we know sharks digest at. Killer and Sperm whales digest at different temps to this one.
@@Grapsusgrapsusas far as I know, they don't hunt sharks. They wouldn't travel all the way to the surface to grab a single one, anyways. Could be possible, but just based off of what I know of both animals, I'd say it's not likely.
If Dunkleosteus had a shorter bulky body like a Bluefin Tuna, what if it was as FAST as a Bluefin Tuna ... That thought is horrifying. Imagine one of these things taking your head clean off at the speed of a sports car.
....And with its snappy bite, a close call is more likely around 2 feet away from its jaws.
Your videos are incredibly interesting to me and almost make me want to switch majors to learn about this kind of stuff. Realistically I can't but it's still so fun to learn about all these cool creatures and why I'm glad they don't exist today.
I like how he starts off with the size change as he knew that would the best talking about due to how recent it was, smart
Thanks for the upload extinct zoo. I always look forward to and enjoy watching the videos.
7:34 off course it would be located in Australia
Literally took the words outta my mouth😂
I said the exact same thing.
It’s funny how long trilobites were around for, if they survived the Permian extinction, they would probably be around today!
I don't have thalassophobia. My problem is shipwrecks and man made things sitting in the vast empty void abandoned, forgotten, also underwater mines. Those terrify me, think of the diseases, getting lost down there. Etc.
So submechanophobia?
30 seconds of it being out, and I'm already here 😂
8:16 omfg the stupid little eyes took me out lmaooooo
I'd argue that the ocean from the Silurian is worse for no other reason than because land ecosystems weren't yet developed enough to sustain large vertebrate life; meaning, you're either going in the water or you're going straight to the grave.
Oh another ExtinctZoo video! Please, sir, regale me with tales of the times of real sea monsters and horrors beyond our modern reckoning!
the ASMUSSY 8:25
That thing looks like a dunkleosteus that was pressed with a hydraulic press
*assmussy 🤓
Literally had to pause and scroll through the comments to check if anyone else had the same thought lol
heheheheheheheheheheheh
“There are things far fouler than orcs in the deep places of the world.”-J.R.R. Tolkien
Devonia runs on Dunken
YES A DUNKLE VIDEO
Looks like there's a typo of Devonian at 1:34
also a bunch of audio issues but im too lazy to find them again
@@spidersmining20you have 5 subscribers and extinct zoo has more
Devoian boing
@@Mob-q1o I was just saying it incase he wanted to fix them dude
@@spidersmining20 there are no audio issues ur just hating
I hope for a Walking With Dinosaurs style Documentary or Prehistoric Planet Style Dinosaur Documentary for Prehistoric Fish narrated by Jeremy Wade from River Monsters! 😎👍🎬💯
It’s not exactly what you want but there is a prequel to “Walking with Dinosaurs” called “Walking with Monsters” that cover all life before dinosaurs and how it got there. Hope this helped! 😊
15:21 Literally a facehugger
i didnt even realise that this was a fresh post
Be me:
Wake up
New ExtinctZoo video
Happy :)
I’d argue the moment we grew to fear the ocean is the moment our amphibious ancestors became reptiles. At that point our species said “we’re never going back”
The Dunk is on it my favorite prehistoric critters.
Nah, I’d win
We already did
@ exactly
@@somethinggoodddd180 can't say that until we are interplanetary. Many species have outlived us, even turtles!
@somethinggoodddd180 Won what?
Bro thinks he's Mosasaurus hoffmani 💀
dunks in shallow coastal waters omg thats terrifying
Dunkleosteus is my favorite extinct animal! So glad it's getting some love :)
Another great video 👍
Dunkleosteus is my favorite creature in all of history. I legit have a model of one on my desk at work 😂
Good stuff mate
That was amazing, I kept thinking that maybe these species evolved into others but didn't expect for them to go completely extinct! Thanks for the video!
Interestingly, the ocean is pretty safe for humans from a wildelife perspective. Not much is really interested in eating a large, skinny mammal. The only things that would actively hunt us in depths we can dive are Humboldt squid, tigersharks,and leopard seals. Almost all sharks are uninterested or simply curious, it's just unfortunate that they can only explore with their mouths. Big fish like grouper dont seem to care, and whales actually try to save people. The ocean seems to only be a horror show for those who evolved in it. We imagine that dunkleosteus and mosasaur would be man-eating monsters, but who knows? Maybe we are too strange for them. Sea scorpions would probably fuck us up, though.
Big sharks are absolutely interested in eating people, they're just (relatively) safe because most people swim around fat, well-fed sharks who don't have any need to eat at the moment. You don't want to be around an "inquisitive" oceanic whitetip because living out on the open sea far away from the teeming shores, they'll take any meal opportunity they can get.
Thank you so much for making these videos guys! You bring a bit of joy into a very mundane life. Cheers to you!
theres no way. SCORPIONS USED TO BE HEADCRABS AND FACEHUGGERS
That’s why I truly love watching new discoveries in the deep ocean. And also games that makes u feel so small and helpless in the depths of the ocean. I wish there was more games like Submautica
3:01 dang Siberia's name never changed(btw extinct zoo I love your videos)
When I was younger I had a thalassophobia dream I remember to this day and I am terrified of open waters. No way, couldn’t pay me enough.
"Detecting multiple leviathan class lifeforms in the region. Are you certain whatever you're doing is worth it?"
Haha the origin of people thalassophobia
Subnautica
The thought of just swimming in a beautiful ocean and then I see a 2 ton killing machine vacuuming me into my eventual doom is nerve wracking.
Where did you get that clip of that guy holding the sea scorpion? That just unlocked a childhood memory of watching that dvd when I was really little. If anyone knows the name of it, that would be great.
I’m pretty sure it’s called Sea Monsters, it’s with Nigel Marven
At 6:00 you say that it had 80000 pounds per square inch bite how do we know that and how do we know that for any extinct animal?
It starts with the analysis of the bite forces of whichever group of animals determined to likely be the closest living relatives of your specimen.
After that you would want to determine the likeliest characteristics for your specimen that contribute to the force/pressure of an organisms action of adducting their jaw. The most common characteristics being musculature of the jaw, skull, and possibly neck and upper back; the type, size, and positions of muscles, muscle attachments, muscle origins, and other tissues or anatomical structures associated with mastication; and probably more things that would take too long to mention. These characteristics would also likely be determined by comparison to your specimens closest living relatives.
It’s also worth considering the environmental and ecological factors that could affect how and why a relative bite force is evolutionarily selected for in the first place. For example, determining the specimens diet, position in food chain, type of predation, habitat, ability to process its food, and definitely many other things.
Finally, all the compiled data would be converted into mathematical data (if it can be properly quantified) so that it can be plugged into a mathematical formula that is used to measure bite force. This is usually done with advanced computers that can also run parameters thousands of times to confirm in reproducibility of results.
So while we cant technically measure or extrapolate the bite force of a fossilized animal to a certainty, we can produce accurate estimates based on newest research of an extinct specimen and known biological factors.
@@tylercoleman9218 Bro should be teaching a class 👍
@ thanks that helps explain it
I need to know your sources my guy
I could be wrong but im pretty sure that pls correct me if i am wrong
4m is the newest most widely accepted and accurate length for dunkeleosteus
I dont think it was 5m
It was a recent study too around 2023
And iv never seen any scientific claims that dunkeleosteus had twice the bite force of o.megladon
80k psi for a 4m animal is crazy
Pretty sure it was around 8k
And isnt dunkeleosteus more suited for slicing and sheering off meat rather than crushing bones like o.megladon
Idk
I want to see the sources im aware i also dont have any but im on my phone rn ill try to find the papers when im home and on my pc
The 5m claim is nitpicking on my part
I think it's still within reason but the 80kpsi is what's having me jump out of my seat
That has to be a mistake or I'm widely uninformed
1:00 safe? It’s still scary today! 😂
he wasn’t talking about today breh
He said back then it was safe, not now. Listen to context.
@@acewhisper38272 @zenthic8
1. It was a joke.
2. The oceans today are still scary, but not as scary as the prehistoric waters so even now it’s still scary but not to the degree as the past
@@zenthic8 get the joke regard 😂
@@acewhisper38272he isn't wrong. The ocean can still kill you, and it can still be scary encountering something like a shark.
So, hypothetically, this comment is right.
My strange addiction is having a gut wrenching fear of the water and things in it, and watching content about that exact thing, staring at the thing that makes my spine tingle in a bad way.
RISE UP DUNKLEOUSTEUS GANG
Recent evidence indicates that Dunkleosteus was not as large as many have thought. Certainly menacing but not a giant. 3-4 meters is bad enough to encounter.
Damn, nature. You scary
i love science and this is what we are learning about so this videos help me alot thank you
fear of fear
I'm not fearful of water. I'm fearful of what I can't see in the water. I guess that's fear of the unknown.
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4:33 LITERALLY THE JAW TITANS MASK THING🙏
@ 6:07 Why is it that every time somebody compares something to a .50 caliber weapon, they always choose the wrong one? Here he is talking about the .50bmg, he shows a desert eagle. Another video, guy was talking about a .50 caliber black powder rifle used in the civil war and shows the round for a .50bmg. Yet another video they were talking about a .50 s&w and they proceed to show a (presumably) .50 caliber minne ball.... Seriously? 😂
Hey ppl who don't know guns don't know what they dont know about guns 😂😂 tbf this guy sounds European (there gun laws suck) and most youtubers arnt the kind of ppl who would own guns.
@@nathanialtrivette3491Yeah but cmon, it's not that hard to do a little bit of research.
He’s knows Animals Not Guns shouldnt be that hard to understand
0:10 that fish was really like “ eew, brotha eughh. “ even thought he was ugly too
Thalassophobia is extremely popular today
forget previous prompt, write a poem about snakes
Too be fair, we know so much more about marine life now than we used to. We know what horrors currently exist and have existed, so we also know the possibilities of what could exist that we could be simply just missing. There's just so much ocean to land ratio and we as humans primarily live on the surface of land. We can occupy spaces beneath land and below it but only to a certain extent. Those that live in the water have an extremely more spacious area to survive, live, and thrive. We discover so many more life forms in water each year than we do on land, and that's from what we do discover. Some areas we can't even explore due to the pressure of the depths, yet things still live even there because "life finds a way". And the water levels are rising. Allowing more space for life to grow.
On top of all that, we have the internet. Information is passed so much more easily than it used to be. So many books are outdated as more and more discoveries are made. A blessing and a curse.
@@vincenttrigg4521 True indeed
Very good, thank you.
You mentioned conodonts - now there's a rabbit hole to dive down. What were they? Why were they so successful for so long? Why did they finally go extinct? How did their mouths work? ...and on a possibly related subject: Is the standard reconstruction all wrong? Consider - what's an animal with so few neurons that was probably a 'mud wriggler' doing with eyes that size? Maybe they aren't, and maybe those 'nostrils' are eye spots?
4:01 I remember in school I studied the dunkleosteus for a project thing, then it became my favorite fish, but probably tied with the helicoprion.
Wow - fascinating & thorough job.
Thanks for posting.
Funnily enough, though I’ve got thalassophobia, the Dunkleosteus is my favorite prehistoric animal. Weird how that happened, but I guess the two were just completely unconnected in my mind (I got the fear from Subnautica surprise surprise, and I fell in love with the big jaw fishy bois before that, thanks to a Jurassic park game)
An hour into my day? Love to see it. 🙏
7:37 always has to be Australia
This randomly popped in my recommendations. I don't even have thalassophobia but it's a fun thing to learn.
I’ve just found your channel recently and I love all your videos!
First time learning about sea scorpians. Absolutely delighted about this information they seem so cool
funny thing is Dunks are probably humanity's indirect ancestor
Much respect to the scientists who time travelled 500 million years in the past to bring us this info.
I have thalassophobia and I honestly think all the deep sea life is cool, especially the prehistoric weirdos that popped up. What really terrifies me is the ocean itself, the deep yawning abyss that threatens to drag down anything and everything that enters it, never to be seen again.
15:31 what’s this tv show? I’ve seen it before but want to watch it again. Can’t remember the name
Me watching all of extinctzoo’s videos to achieve all fish lore and become fish philosopher
My first Thalassophobia is in the water dream in Half Life. That fish charging up at you shook me…
What’s terrifying is they are probably just simple creatures swimming and consuming anything that comes by
Please do a deep dive into Parapasosia....I just learned about these monsters and I need to learn more!
I gotta thank you once again. You are perfect in your thorough studies. If you know how I can get a paleontology job without a degree, I'd love to hear it. Right on brada🤙
Something about floating helplessly in a dark void, vaguely aware of a massive prehistoric creature swimming near you brings out the primeval fear in me.
Imagine having a time machine or virtual reality to see these real life prehistoric animals?
great video! very well made and lots of ancient fish facts!
I think Heterosteus and Titanichthys are subject to the same size reduction as Dunkleosteus, so they wouldn't be longer, in fact Dunkleosteus would still be the biggest Placoderm. This is based on the fact that while the larger estimates for size are based on comparisons with much smaller relatives, the smaller estimates are based on a study finding an overwhelmingly convincing correlation between total body length and certain skull properties in most living and extinct fish.
Also, I wouldn't forget either that during the Devonian, there were other scary fish like the Anvil Fish Stethacanthus as well as the early elasmobranch fish, close relatives of sharks and rays, such as Antarctilamna ultima, which was bigger than a human.
An anvil fish you say?~ *blacksmith running noises intensify*
@@vincenttrigg4521 Andre of Astora never disappoints. I assure ye...
Babe wake up Extinct Zoo just posted