Alright, a lot was cut out of the literature review section, because the entire video ended up leaning more towards a film analysis than a social science one, so theorists like James Hillman ended up cut. As a result a Man of Steel video is coming soon, because I don't want to throw away all the unused notes.
Hey, I have been waiting for this post so I can comment. I'm working on a paper right now that'd designed to link agency, identity, and play as the three essential components to a happy life. I wanted to know all the books your like and recomend, specifically the ones on identity.
@@isaacphoenix9200 Err, well I read more research papers than books (and embarrassingly on Google scholar most of the time), so off the top of my head, the identity theorists I dig is Erving Goffman, Michel de Certeau, Emile Durkheim, Charles Cooley, Howard Becker, Gergen and Gergen - they all deal with culture and identity in some way, so I'd totally recommend their work when you're researching!
@@ImplicitlyPretentious I wouldn't say that's embarrassing at all. I have written several papers, one reinventing story structure and a lot of the information for that comes from RUclips. So I have you beat on the embarrassing research sources. Actually I use a lot of your videos in research for my papers, especially this one. What is that book you have that you always quote. Woth Michael pickering?
@@isaacphoenix9200 Lol that's so flattering, I hope I haven't gotten you into trouble with my videos😂 There's 2 references written by Emily Keightley and Michael Pickering, their main book "Mnemonic Imagination: Remembering as creative practice" and their paper (you can get for free on Google Scholar) "Trauma, discourse and communicative limits"!
Lois doesn’t say, “you smell good.” She says, “you spoke.” Because he hadn’t spoke up till then. Maybe not the most elegant words, but she is standing next to her dead boyfriend who just spoke. So there’s that.
She says "you smell good" in the 2017 version, because "you spoke" wouldn't have made sense as he had already spoken in the Whedon reshoot. Not sure why Whedon felt he had to keep that in at all, though.
Haha I was gonna say the same. I watch stuff with subtitles by default and noticed this. I did think the line was “you smell good” cuz it does sound like she says that and the scene and the lines kinda lend to such dialogue I guess.
I like the idea of the Justice League being a nuclear family, but I'll make a further comparison. The New Gods on Apokolips represent a broken family. Steppenwolf wants to prove himself and finally be allowed to come home. I mean his Macguffin is literally called "The Unity" which is his key to restoring his place in the family.
That is indeed an excellent extension of the comparison. Also, the individual boxes are called Mother Boxes & we see in Cyborg's mind that the three boxes show themselves as three ghastly figures (presumably women). If I remember correctly, there are some continuities in DC where Darkseid's mother, Hegra, upon being executed after her usurping, has her damn soul sucked from her dying body, then split into multiple parts & placed in the boxes that would be known as Mother Boxes, hence the name. So, maybe the three ghastly figures are actually three parts of Hegra's soul, still haunting the Mother Boxes & anybody like Cyborg who goes poking around in them.
Calling this version of the League a family is kinda suspect since I don’t even by them as friends They more act like students assigned to a group project. There to do a job and never talk to each other after
I really love the Superman arc across all three movies, his earthly father was convinced the world wasn't ready for Superman and it came to fruition in Batman v Superman, and then after losing Superman, after he gave them hope when the world was finally ready you hear his Earthly father combined with his Krypton Father saying "Fly son, it's time." I really loved that moment.
@@ImplicitlyPretentious Yeah even I had a similar thing. I also said to my friends that the smell good line was still Zack’s And how odd that was and they literally just said the hell she said you spoke! Then I turned on subtitles and yeah it’s that. But it makes sense considering in this version he didn’t speak till he reached the Kent Farm.
@@ImplicitlyPretentious Mistakes happen, you can edit the video and write on the screen the correction at that moment you said that. I've seen other youtubers do it saying like "I was totally wrong here" or something so I know it can be done. EDIT: Great videos by the way.
Oh man! I have seen the movie twice and heard "you smell good" both times. But i loved that line in zack's version because it connects with the earlier moment when the young woman smells/embraces arthur's shirt. Oh well, we still have lois handing Clarke his shirt, so the two scenes can still stay connected in my head.
@@slkjvlkfsvnlsdfhgdght5447in most storylines (except for maybe the Burton films) Alfred is former British special ops. In the Snyder films, Alfred has three roles; the classic Alfred that is a mentor, Lucius Fox type character that helps design, repair, and build Batman’s equipment, and part Oracle by providing intelligence and targeting information over the radio from the Batcave. Lastly, Aquaman literally calls uses the word badass when he first meets him. So it’s safe to say that every character (except maybe Diana) wishes they had their father figure available to them like Bruce does.
Great video essay. But Lois doesn’t say, “You smell good.” She says, “You spoke” because it was actually the first time Clark says anything since being resurrected. In the Snyder Cut, Superman remains confused and not himself after being brought back to life, which also explains why Snyder didn’t have him remember the events of BvS and taunt Batman by saying, “Do you bleed?” Just more things that show Whedon was obsessed more about inserting his stupid jokes than understanding the story and the characters.
@@katherinealvarez9216 "Hello, Mr. White, I'm Bruce Wayne. I actually kidnapped Mr. Kent here to work on a top secret Wayne project, and replaced him with a clone body which was buried in Smallville. Standard procedure really... anyway, I hope that all makes sense, also I just bought the Daily Planet."
Could easily say that he was kidnapped with Lois by Luthor then put into witness protection. Use his ties to J’onn/Swanwick and Waller to fabricate the story.
Zack Snyder Justice league is a movie about resurrecting Superman back to life while the movie itself being resurrected back to life by the fans... On that note of Resurrection.... HAPPY EASTER Everyone...
@@ShirDeutch so Kal-El means Light God? Or I guess God of light. So I guess superman is a God that Shines a light of hope, in a darkness of fear. Fitting...
@@hunterzagreus7270 sorry, I wasn't clear enough. Light as in lightweight. So more like a lightweight god. But even that's a stretch, because hebrew is ordered backwards compare to English, so he'd have to be called El Kal for it to mean anything...
Act 1 had me screaming internally cursing your name for being too accurate, but Act 3 is legitimately the best dissection of the film I've seen yet. Almost as big a comeback as Mr. Snyder. And I'm glad you didn't write off the epilogue just because it had the big bad Leto Joker, as it is the thematic cherry on top, as you so highlighted. Hallelujah.
Lois did not say "you smell good" this time around, she said "you spoke." While in the Whedon Cut, Clark had taunted Bruce by repeating his "do you bleed" line, in the Snyder Cut he was completely silent for the entire scene, and his reaction showed that he didn't even notice it himself. "This is home" are his first words since coming back from the dead in the Snyder Cut, and I think it's a more poignant first line.
I thought that Martian Manhunter should have revealed himself to Superman. Superman revealing himself, should have inspired him to join and fight for humanity as himself. But I'm still wondering why he didn't help in the end fight. That would have been nice.
I agree that Martian Manhunter should have revealed himself Superman since they were both aliens, but it was okay to reveal himself to Batman. I think Martian manhunter didn't reveal himself due to mankind being potentially fearful of him.
I recently read someone’s comment on another video and suggested that Clark already knew about MM but wanted to respect that secret identity kept, like during MOS at the interrogation room where Clark breaks the handcuffs the only one who didn’t flinch or surprised was the general and when Clark X-rayed the room to show that he could see them the only person he didn’t call out was the general. The only other person who actually called the kryptonians by their name was the general since during zod’s message he didn’t introduce him and his group as kryptonians, just revealing that Clark was there and demand that he should be handed over.
The scene was supposed to be done with Green lantern revealing himself to Bruce Wayne but WB shit over it because zack was using too many characters(as to my knowledge) and it ended up with Martian Manhunter instead
Superman punching Steppenwolf through the portal is a callback to Man Of Steel, where he was convinced he could somehow beat Zod without killing him- he says "I'm going to stop you!" and then gets Zod in a headlock and just stops, like he's won the fight and now Zod has to say Uncle and go away. Zod says "you can only stop me by killing me" and he turns out to be right. In Justice League, Superman punches Steppenwolf through the portal, planning to non-lethally dispose of him- this IS a circumstance where you can just make the baddie go away! And it probably would have been that simple, if Steppenwolf hadn't taunted Wonder Woman so much and made her really mad...
While I don’t really enjoy Synder’s films (other than the weird owl one, because it’s just so weird), I still enjoyed this video. I will say, something I figured you were going to mention but you didn’t that I think is worth noting - you mention how the Justice League coming together is, symbolically, the reuniting of cultures. The thing is, all of the heroes are explicitly mavericks by the standards of their cultures - Clark the only non-test tube baby, Diana leaving home for the great wide out there, Bruce using his wealth to do good, Barry having a tie to the prisons, and Cyborg as a cyborg. I’m not entirely sure what that means, but it definitely would affect your argument, I think.
I actually think it reinforces it. These abnormal champions of their society are the ones to unite them because of their individuality. The reason these civilizations don't want to unite is because their legacy restricts it. If all red wants to do is be red, they will never meet with blue and with green. It isn't until a red accidentally or on purpose makes a purple, it then starts to realize that why are we so closed off, let me be different, let me reach out. In Man of Steel that's why Jor El even sent Clark to Earth in the first place. He didn't want to him to be raised as a Kryptonian because they were all set in their ways and refused to change due to some sense of tradition and legacy. It takes the outlier to think outside the box and to want to do something different than what their civilization or society has been telling them or intends them to do. All these paragons of their different societies both embody all the strengths of their civilizations while allowing them to be different so they can think outside of their people's conditioning.
Building on what cbear94 said, traditionally *all* mythological heroes are outliers of some kind, either gods or demigods who are a cut above the rest in some way form of function. Hercules ridiculously strong even by divine standards, Odysseus brilliant and clever, Atalanta a female warrior as strong as a man, Achilles almost completely invincible, etc. But like Jason that something extraordinary makes other people follow them, and follow their example. And like Perseus the deeds they accomplish make them leaders in their cultures.
I don’t like Snyder’s films but I actually really enjoyed JLSC. Yeah, it had some of the usual issues I have with Snyder’s direction but the writing was waaaaaay better than it was in his two previous superhero flicks
No prob, man. This film is better than Josstice League by a long shot. I’m happy we finally got to see Snyder’s vision. We were robbed back at 2017. Thousands of people like me wanna see more from him and a possible sequel. I’m happy for the guy and I’m happy he completed his vision for his daughter. #RestoreTheSnyderVerse
"I don't know how that works because Cark was publicly announced dead". That's comic books thought lol. Happens every time and they never explain it. Peter Parker, Bruce Wayne, Clark Kent, etc. Any time a hero dies or goes missing for years nobody every asks questions when they return.
A really good commentary that dives deeper into the hidden meanings of ZSJL. I'm not gonna lie, as much as I loved this film, I kinda thought that the movie was extremely shallow compared to something as loaded as BvS and MoS. But this vid made me realize I was wrong, and ZSJL was MUCH more subtle about its themes than those two movies. And from the looks of it, it seems like this type of more subtle storytelling worked better for the general audiences. It's also probably why a lot of them felt something "welling up inside them" whenever they saw some scenes but are unable to elaborate on it. I think your video pretty much uncovered the movie's hidden elements that were causing these unexplainable emotions and thoughts we experienced as audiences. One thing I have to add: As much as I loved this movie, I absolutely agree with you that this movie feels incomplete, even on a detail-level. It's interesting because MoS and BvS are movies that can stand on their own without each other, but ZSJL feels like a small part that was ripped out of a bigger movie. I think this becomes even more apparent when the movie didn't explain certain parts of the story. Like, why did Darkseid forget about Earth's location? (There was apparently a civil war in his homeworld, which could easily explain how his former allies would have erased Earth's coordinates somehow as a last "f you" before falling to Darkseid.) Why doesn't Flash just spam time reversal? (The movie kinda implies this, but if Flash reverses time to save something, then something of equal value will be lost, which explains how reviving Superman got Silas killed, and saving the world would result in the knightmare world.) I honestly would have preferred if Zack showed scenes that explained these problems, but it's clear that Zack, although having clear explanations for these things already, decided to elaborate on these interesting problems in the sequel. Stuff like this definitely shows ZSJL isn't a movie that's supposed to be able to stand on its own. But yeah, aside from this, it's honestly a splendid movie that takes you on big trip. If I'm not mistaken, I think you were pretty mixed on BvS, so it's awesome to hear that you enjoyed this movie more. Thanks for the awesome essay. I can appreciate this movie even now thanks to you.
Her line is "you spoke" to which Clark replies "did I not before?" Watch it again if needed. Even the subtitles say "you spoke" not Josh Whedon's "you smell good."
"You spoke" not "You smell good" in Zack Snyder's Justice League... although I'd imagine her surprise that he smelt good after the Kryptonian amniotic fluid and Cyborg's Gillette/ Axe spray cannon would do the trick either way... carry on then 🤣🙏🏽#RestoreTheSnyderVerse
Always a great time watching your videos, you strike a great balance of humour and actual new insights I hadn't necessarily though of before or at least haven't heard. Also definitely worth sending this to Amy Adams' management so she hears your proposal
If you are a fan of this franchise & want to see it continue, them I would encourage you to read the article in the Hollywood Reporter, where they interviewed Ray Fisher (Cyborg), and he goes into more detail about what happened to him during production of this movie, and how both the director (Joss Whedon) and the studio, mistreated him. Then, I'd read the article in Vanity Fair, where they interviewed writer Chris Terrio, and he also had some stories to tell, about how mismanaged everything was. He goes into some detail about just awful those people running WB truly are, as well. People need to know about this kind of of stuff, so that they can make informed decisions when deciding what entertainment they want to support. I know I don't want to support nothing made by Warner Bros, til they make things right w/Zack Snyder & Ray Fisher! I'm not suggesting people boycott things or be toxic, but... I plan on being in the comment section on ALL Warner Bros related content from now on, screaming: 😤🤳🏼🔥🔥🔥🔥 #RestoreTheSnyderverse
@@KabbalahSherry I've already seen a lot of stuff about the behind the scenes for a lot of the production and shit, sucks to see how badly so many people were treated (Ray being the most notable but other people obviously being badly treated like Gal too), hopefully Warner do at least improve on that even if they don't continue the Snyder universe
Dude watch it again! Lois says "You spoke" because he hadn't said a word since his death until just then! In Josstice League, she says "You smell good" because....Comedy?
I don't think Martian manhunter was Martha the entire time.... They're two separate characters. MM was just used in that scene as Martha to help bring her back on her feet. Great video btw. I also found funny that when Superman got resurrected everyone was calling him Clark lol. Anyway.... Awesome video for an amazing movie.
I'm not really bothered by Superman maiming Steppenwolf or participating in his death. In my book, you threaten to destroy the whole planet, you lose your mercy pass. Superman's never really had the endless mercy that characters like Batman and Spider-Man have traditionally had in the comics. Batman being a murder-machine rings far more false than Superman brutalizing enemies that can clearly take it.
I have one slim defense for the violence Wonder Woman inflicted upon the terrorists in the London bank (and arguably the rest of JL for that matter in Zack's DCEU): Zack Snyder is a Christian, and the Bible keeps bringing up how God will inflict his divine justice upon those who are of wicked nature. But in the context strictly of DC Comics, Diana is the loosest with any no-kill rule (if any); she's a warrior after all. She thrives off of battle
I really dig this movie, but hot damn, if Whedon actually tried making a 2-hour version of it to release, instead of adding all the nonsense he did, I wonder what would've happened then. #RestoreTheSnyderverse
People looking back on BvS and MoS and being like ah shit it was part of the plan all along to have it go from grim to light and have faith restored sents me everytime.
No not really, MOS yes, BvS is still frustrating to get through, it’s dark going to more dark and JL is in the middle of light and dark and from the looks of it even MORE dark That’s not enjoyable
@@ninjanibba4259 yes MoS is dark But then Superman’s Consequences Is truly brought up with BvS and Plus it’s a Batman movie on it’s side so it kinda has to be a dark movie. It all culminates in Clark’s death into which the world would go into despair and By the ending of Justice league and beginning of JL 2 or a majority of it the film would have been lighter due to hope restored after the league formed and Superman came back. It’s like Jason Momoa said in the snyder cut None Are Taken Back From The Darkness. Not Without Giving One Up In Return. Again That’s just my view on the tones.
@@thabreez456 that’s a fine view, but don’t you think Superman and Batman should’ve had their own films of before their on screen? I mean Superman gets his own story and Batman is thrusted into Superman’s story with little time to get a true arc, maybe that would help Batman killing look more justified somehow Plus JL used Superman as a prop instead of finishing his own arc, Batman gets to bring the team together but all that darkness of him just goes away? Maybe that should be questioned like Superman was in BvS Idk, it’s all rushed in some areas and with the runtimes given, there’s no reason it wouldn’t be there to flesh things out properly
@@ninjanibba4259 i think cause we’ve already seen a alpha of Batman in Nolan’s trilogy Zack wanted to show a new perspective and So his arc in BvS requires Superman. He needed superman to inspire him and the others,especially Batman for their characters in JL. Notice how in JL when Superman comes back batman doesn’t try to just brute force at him like in BvS where he was so blinded by hatred he didn’t even bother to listen to Clark asking him to help him with Lex. I think mostly that’s why Zack never gave them all a solo movie. Most of their characters were shaped by The League members. Such as Cyborg by Diana and His Father Aquaman’s Ignorance of his responsibilities And his eventual acceptance of it is shown by joining the league. All them are broken and alone in their minds but it takes each other for them to realize they aren’t.
@@ninjanibba4259 we had gotten man of steel and bvs which are both Superman films technically speaking. I do want an actual man of steel sequel tho, but that can’t be blamed on zack, only the studio. As for Batman, same thing but I get the feeling that the studio didn’t want another Batman movie after just getting around to finishing the Nolan trilogy. They probably were hesitant on that which forced zack to make this. At the end of the day tho, this character is different from what we have seen of him before and was made to be that way. An interesting take that u don’t need to like or dislike, but appreciate when his character arc comes full circle.
@@TheRodg43 it still made no sense, why acknowledge that for? I rather it just cut to him in the house and then to playing with the butterfly Show don’t tell is important, less is more is too
@@ninjanibba4259 "this is home" "you spoke" "did I not before?" it's just three lines.. Plus if he first spoke at the house she still had to acknowledge him speaking..
Let's be clear: the Bruce-Lois storyline was planned to be the two of them lifting each other out of their guilt and grief throughout the first Justice League movie. Like a widow who's firefighter husband died on 9/11 and became romantically involved with his best friend, or something. And then Superman suddenly re-enters the picture and it can't happen. Bruce knows this, but the damage has already been done. I think this is a very human way to show how people can learn to love again (and Batman, for Christ sake) and what its consequences are. I thought it was bold and a great opportunity. Oh well.
I feel like Flashpoint already happened in Zack Snyder's Universe, it's just that we never got to know of it on screen. Because of Bruce having those Knightmares.
My headcanon is that Bruce sending Flash to tinker with time caused one universe that was *close* to averting the Knightmare (Josstice League) and then after one more tweak we got ZSJL, which lead to Barry creating Flashpoint and eventually completely averting the Knightmare.
Amy Adams next role should be Samus Aran. She has a really quiet and contemplative demeanor that matches the character really well. Start with the Zero Suit and build up the suit with plot points and action. And the whole film should be silent like Wall-E.
Athena, Hades, Poseidon, Hermes and Hephaestus team up to resurrect Apollo. (I know Ares is an actual guy already, but the guy from MARS who masquerades as a military commander feels like he's kind of an Ares.)
This channel is such bullshit... Using fancy language to make yourself look smarter without making any interesting points or even really understanding the words used in the first place is the definition of pretentiousness. The problem is that there is actually a requirement for pretense. If you are actually making interesting points and providing sources for the vocabulary used them you are not really being pretentious, implicitly or otherwise.
the snydercut and the snyderverse in general is very terrible, how can wonder woman lasso hold doomsday but cant hold superman, why are the motherboxes the ultimate weaopn of darksied afraid of superman when darkseid can destroy superman. snyder need to stay away from our characters.
im sorry but the real alfred would have had the tea ready for all of them before they arived. And for those asking how would he know to make that much tea, the answer is simple he just was
Correction: Steppenwolf activates the Unity, and all the kingdoms AND ALFRED watch in horror. Don't underestimate the super senses of the most powerful being on the planet.
"Yeah, that's how I feel about Obama." I hollered and I feel bad for that. Not because I am black nor because I am Canadian, but because I can't understand how he went into this joke, political alignment aside (neither Elephant nor Dem. I am just Canadian) .
My biggest and main problem with the Snyder cut is Superman. The movie does center around how Superman's death is the catalyst for the events of the movie, how Superman being gone is the inspiration for the formation of the justice league, and how Superman is the only member of the justice league powerful enough to defeat Steppenwolf, but it still sets Superman on a darker path whether he's a hero or a potential villain. When he's the hero, Superman wears his black suit as a metaphor to how he has changed, and he brutally attacks Steppenwolf when his job is mainly to subdue his opponent. I feel that the theatrical cut really did bring Superman back and made him be the true Superman.
@Lordyeezusberry I respectfully disagree. Ideals matter, especially when the world is in danger of being destroyed. Ideals can't just be forgotten for convenience or you risk losing sight of what you are fighting for. Superman is special because of the ideals he represents.
@Lordyeezusberry a life without ideals isn't worth living. The knightmare scenes show what happened when Superman loses not only his loved ones, but his ideals. Superman becomes a slave of Darkseid and caused much death and destruction.
@@StareachValcin He doesn't lose his ideals in the knightmare sequence he becomes vulnerable after losing Lois and then falls under the influence of the anti life equation. Plus if he was going to kill Steppenwolf don't you think he would've lasered his whole head rather than his horn? Also what would they do after subduing him? Throw him into the space? What stops him from coming back with more? His ideals are still in there when he is dealing with earth problems. This concerns the whole planet. "You need ideals against threats like Doomsday" was he supposed to talk sense into Doomsday?? I'd like you to explain what do you mean by ideals against aliens invading earth?
I don’t mind the idea of Lois having Bruce’s kid too much as long as she wasn’t cheating on Clark. Feels weird but tolerable. What I don’t like is that Bruce was unable or insufficiently motivated to save Lois unless he learnt it was his own flesh & blood at stake. There’s no way he wouldn’t endanger himself to save Lois, he knows Superman’s hope & light depends on her so for that alone he’d sacrifice himself to save her. Tweak it a bit like in the first timeline he’s separated by bulletproof glass which he tries to punch through to get to her but in the rebooted timeline after Flash’s warning he’s desperate enough to throw a grenade at the glass to break it but gets injured from the blast & shrapnel. Then bloodied & bruised as he is he throws himself in front of the Omega beams to save her.
In the storyboards Bruce tries to save her the first time, before he knew she was carrying his child but he comes too late. This is the timeline in which Barry warns Bruce in BvS, he even says "Am I too soon?" because at that point Bruce hasn't even met Barry yet so Bruce doesn't understand why Lois is the key. After the events of JL, Darkseid comes to earth, Lex tells Darkseid that Lois is Superman's weakness and he comes after her in Batcave. No one expects Darkseid going after her and Bruce can't react in enough time. Knigtmare stuff happens, Barry says to Bruce that's his child Lois is carrying, coming in a correct time this time. Bruce is a bit more protective of her instinctively and he is able react in time this time, taking the omega beams himself.
Alright, a lot was cut out of the literature review section, because the entire video ended up leaning more towards a film analysis than a social science one, so theorists like James Hillman ended up cut. As a result a Man of Steel video is coming soon, because I don't want to throw away all the unused notes.
Hey, I have been waiting for this post so I can comment. I'm working on a paper right now that'd designed to link agency, identity, and play as the three essential components to a happy life. I wanted to know all the books your like and recomend, specifically the ones on identity.
If you are free of course. Feel free to post here or even email me at work@pollen.games
@@isaacphoenix9200 Err, well I read more research papers than books (and embarrassingly on Google scholar most of the time), so off the top of my head, the identity theorists I dig is Erving Goffman, Michel de Certeau, Emile Durkheim, Charles Cooley, Howard Becker, Gergen and Gergen - they all deal with culture and identity in some way, so I'd totally recommend their work when you're researching!
@@ImplicitlyPretentious I wouldn't say that's embarrassing at all. I have written several papers, one reinventing story structure and a lot of the information for that comes from RUclips. So I have you beat on the embarrassing research sources. Actually I use a lot of your videos in research for my papers, especially this one. What is that book you have that you always quote. Woth Michael pickering?
@@isaacphoenix9200 Lol that's so flattering, I hope I haven't gotten you into trouble with my videos😂 There's 2 references written by Emily Keightley and Michael Pickering, their main book "Mnemonic Imagination: Remembering as creative practice" and their paper (you can get for free on Google Scholar) "Trauma, discourse and communicative limits"!
Lois doesn’t say, “you smell good.” She says, “you spoke.” Because he hadn’t spoke up till then. Maybe not the most elegant words, but she is standing next to her dead boyfriend who just spoke. So there’s that.
Thank you,I was about to the say the same thing
Huh, you're right
She says "you smell good" in the 2017 version, because "you spoke" wouldn't have made sense as he had already spoken in the Whedon reshoot. Not sure why Whedon felt he had to keep that in at all, though.
I was about to comment the same thing
Haha I was gonna say the same.
I watch stuff with subtitles by default and noticed this. I did think the line was “you smell good” cuz it does sound like she says that and the scene and the lines kinda lend to such dialogue I guess.
I like the idea of the Justice League being a nuclear family, but I'll make a further comparison.
The New Gods on Apokolips represent a broken family. Steppenwolf wants to prove himself and finally be allowed to come home.
I mean his Macguffin is literally called "The Unity" which is his key to restoring his place in the family.
That is an excellent extension of the comparison.
That is indeed an excellent extension of the comparison. Also, the individual boxes are called Mother Boxes & we see in Cyborg's mind that the three boxes show themselves as three ghastly figures (presumably women). If I remember correctly, there are some continuities in DC where Darkseid's mother, Hegra, upon being executed after her usurping, has her damn soul sucked from her dying body, then split into multiple parts & placed in the boxes that would be known as Mother Boxes, hence the name. So, maybe the three ghastly figures are actually three parts of Hegra's soul, still haunting the Mother Boxes & anybody like Cyborg who goes poking around in them.
Calling this version of the League a family is kinda suspect since I don’t even by them as friends
They more act like students assigned to a group project. There to do a job and never talk to each other after
What's more broken with the Apokoliptians is that, iirc, Steppenwolf is Darkseid's uncle, making him his elder. Yet Steppenwolf is Darkseid's servant.
I really love the Superman arc across all three movies, his earthly father was convinced the world wasn't ready for Superman and it came to fruition in Batman v Superman, and then after losing Superman, after he gave them hope when the world was finally ready you hear his Earthly father combined with his Krypton Father saying "Fly son, it's time." I really loved that moment.
wtf the "you smell good" was instead "you spoke" soo...it's still Joss Whedon's fault
Holy crap, I was listening to that scene over and over again and couldn't hear "you spoke" until now :o
@@ImplicitlyPretentious It's in the subs too tho, but yeah Joss changed it with ADR sadly lol
@@ImplicitlyPretentious Yeah even I had a similar thing. I also said to my friends that the smell good line was still Zack’s And how odd that was and they literally just said the hell she said you spoke! Then I turned on subtitles and yeah it’s that. But it makes sense considering in this version he didn’t speak till he reached the Kent Farm.
@@ImplicitlyPretentious Mistakes happen, you can edit the video and write on the screen the correction at that moment you said that. I've seen other youtubers do it saying like "I was totally wrong here" or something so I know it can be done.
EDIT: Great videos by the way.
Oh man! I have seen the movie twice and heard "you smell good" both times. But i loved that line in zack's version because it connects with the earlier moment when the young woman smells/embraces arthur's shirt. Oh well, we still have lois handing Clarke his shirt, so the two scenes can still stay connected in my head.
For the family part you forgot to mention Alfred as the badass grandfather that everyone wishes they had.
badass?
@@slkjvlkfsvnlsdfhgdght5447in most storylines (except for maybe the Burton films) Alfred is former British special ops. In the Snyder films, Alfred has three roles; the classic Alfred that is a mentor, Lucius Fox type character that helps design, repair, and build Batman’s equipment, and part Oracle by providing intelligence and targeting information over the radio from the Batcave. Lastly, Aquaman literally calls uses the word badass when he first meets him. So it’s safe to say that every character (except maybe Diana) wishes they had their father figure available to them like Bruce does.
Great video essay. But Lois doesn’t say, “You smell good.” She says, “You spoke” because it was actually the first time Clark says anything since being resurrected. In the Snyder Cut, Superman remains confused and not himself after being brought back to life, which also explains why Snyder didn’t have him remember the events of BvS and taunt Batman by saying, “Do you bleed?” Just more things that show Whedon was obsessed more about inserting his stupid jokes than understanding the story and the characters.
17:13
Perry: Oh, I thought you died
Clark: My death was greatly exaggerated
I'm guessing he had help there, named Bruce.
@@katherinealvarez9216 "Hello, Mr. White, I'm Bruce Wayne. I actually kidnapped Mr. Kent here to work on a top secret Wayne project, and replaced him with a clone body which was buried in Smallville. Standard procedure really... anyway, I hope that all makes sense, also I just bought the Daily Planet."
Mega Mind reference.
@@stranger59 oooooo! they should've done that
Could easily say that he was kidnapped with Lois by Luthor then put into witness protection. Use his ties to J’onn/Swanwick and Waller to fabricate the story.
Zack Snyder Justice league is a movie about resurrecting Superman back to life while the movie itself being resurrected back to life by the fans... On that note of Resurrection....
HAPPY EASTER Everyone...
I spent my Easter bringing the Zack trilogy. It’s basically Jesus doing and coming back to life lol
So it had no meaning before?
To comment on Superman for a sec:
His name is (as you said) based on Hebrew. As his creators Jerry Siegel and Joe shutter were Jewish themselves.
P.S. Leo,
All your videos smack. All of them. Nuff said.
💙
@@LaBooF42 😊😊
Also, Kal means light or easy.
Jor doesn't mean anything 😆
@@ShirDeutch so Kal-El means Light God?
Or I guess God of light.
So I guess superman is a God that Shines a light of hope, in a darkness of fear. Fitting...
@@hunterzagreus7270 sorry, I wasn't clear enough. Light as in lightweight. So more like a lightweight god.
But even that's a stretch, because hebrew is ordered backwards compare to English, so he'd have to be called El Kal for it to mean anything...
Act 1 had me screaming internally cursing your name for being too accurate, but Act 3 is legitimately the best dissection of the film I've seen yet. Almost as big a comeback as Mr. Snyder. And I'm glad you didn't write off the epilogue just because it had the big bad Leto Joker, as it is the thematic cherry on top, as you so highlighted. Hallelujah.
13:08 Actually fam, she says "You spoke" lol not "you smell good". Anyway fantastic analysis. Keep them coming.
Lois did not say "you smell good" this time around, she said "you spoke."
While in the Whedon Cut, Clark had taunted Bruce by repeating his "do you bleed" line, in the Snyder Cut he was completely silent for the entire scene, and his reaction showed that he didn't even notice it himself. "This is home" are his first words since coming back from the dead in the Snyder Cut, and I think it's a more poignant first line.
Like a lost child who has no real geographical knowledge of world,bur who is still able to point out how home looks like
LMAO THAT LAST CLIIIIPPPPP I'M SCREAMING
This channel is such quality, man.
I Love ZSJL to much.
I hope I said somthing meaningful about it in the essay!
how many times have you seen it so far?
@@ubzSS 12 times.......
@@t.w.k9755 Lol, nice. still working on my fif.
@@ubzSS I got 2 viewings in so far. I really enjoy ZSJL. But 4 hours are hard to set time aside for.
"so this is the essence of superman"
"awsome... and that's how I feel about Obama"
Killed me. What a great essay
"Batman is absolutely such a simp for Superman in this movie..."
You're not wrong.
Bruce: "I bought the bank."
There are six of us not five there's no us without him
I thought that Martian Manhunter should have revealed himself to Superman. Superman revealing himself, should have inspired him to join and fight for humanity as himself. But I'm still wondering why he didn't help in the end fight. That would have been nice.
He was waiting for the heroes of Earth to unite. Why? I don't know and we may never found out...
Yeah.....
I agree that Martian Manhunter should have revealed himself Superman since they were both aliens, but it was okay to reveal himself to Batman. I think Martian manhunter didn't reveal himself due to mankind being potentially fearful of him.
I recently read someone’s comment on another video and suggested that Clark already knew about MM but wanted to respect that secret identity kept, like during MOS at the interrogation room where Clark breaks the handcuffs the only one who didn’t flinch or surprised was the general and when Clark X-rayed the room to show that he could see them the only person he didn’t call out was the general. The only other person who actually called the kryptonians by their name was the general since during zod’s message he didn’t introduce him and his group as kryptonians, just revealing that Clark was there and demand that he should be handed over.
The scene was supposed to be done with Green lantern revealing himself to Bruce Wayne but WB shit over it because zack was using too many characters(as to my knowledge) and it ended up with Martian Manhunter instead
Already know this video is gonna be great
Aww I hope my cough-filled voice isn't going to ruin it!
Superman punching Steppenwolf through the portal is a callback to Man Of Steel, where he was convinced he could somehow beat Zod without killing him- he says "I'm going to stop you!" and then gets Zod in a headlock and just stops, like he's won the fight and now Zod has to say Uncle and go away. Zod says "you can only stop me by killing me" and he turns out to be right.
In Justice League, Superman punches Steppenwolf through the portal, planning to non-lethally dispose of him- this IS a circumstance where you can just make the baddie go away! And it probably would have been that simple, if Steppenwolf hadn't taunted Wonder Woman so much and made her really mad...
Authur did stab Steppenwolf in the back through the chest, he was dead already but Superman just sent the body back to Apocalypse
While I don’t really enjoy Synder’s films (other than the weird owl one, because it’s just so weird), I still enjoyed this video.
I will say, something I figured you were going to mention but you didn’t that I think is worth noting - you mention how the Justice League coming together is, symbolically, the reuniting of cultures. The thing is, all of the heroes are explicitly mavericks by the standards of their cultures - Clark the only non-test tube baby, Diana leaving home for the great wide out there, Bruce using his wealth to do good, Barry having a tie to the prisons, and Cyborg as a cyborg. I’m not entirely sure what that means, but it definitely would affect your argument, I think.
I actually think it reinforces it. These abnormal champions of their society are the ones to unite them because of their individuality. The reason these civilizations don't want to unite is because their legacy restricts it. If all red wants to do is be red, they will never meet with blue and with green. It isn't until a red accidentally or on purpose makes a purple, it then starts to realize that why are we so closed off, let me be different, let me reach out.
In Man of Steel that's why Jor El even sent Clark to Earth in the first place. He didn't want to him to be raised as a Kryptonian because they were all set in their ways and refused to change due to some sense of tradition and legacy. It takes the outlier to think outside the box and to want to do something different than what their civilization or society has been telling them or intends them to do. All these paragons of their different societies both embody all the strengths of their civilizations while allowing them to be different so they can think outside of their people's conditioning.
Building on what cbear94 said, traditionally *all* mythological heroes are outliers of some kind, either gods or demigods who are a cut above the rest in some way form of function. Hercules ridiculously strong even by divine standards, Odysseus brilliant and clever, Atalanta a female warrior as strong as a man, Achilles almost completely invincible, etc. But like Jason that something extraordinary makes other people follow them, and follow their example. And like Perseus the deeds they accomplish make them leaders in their cultures.
I don’t like Snyder’s films but I actually really enjoyed JLSC.
Yeah, it had some of the usual issues I have with Snyder’s direction but the writing was waaaaaay better than it was in his two previous superhero flicks
tbh i want the owl film to have a proper remake
My favorite thing about Snyder is that you can SEE how much he ducking loves his job. Filmmaking is his favorite thing to do and it shows.
If you rewatch the scene where Lois shows up, that’s the moment Clark saw that she was pregnant - she even nods her head at him
Damn, great video!! I mean as always, but Zack Snyder’s artistic style lends itself to academic analysis particularly well.
What an amazing video essay!
Aww thank you so much for enjoying it! :)
No prob, man. This film is better than Josstice League by a long shot. I’m happy we finally got to see Snyder’s vision. We were robbed back at 2017. Thousands of people like me wanna see more from him and a possible sequel. I’m happy for the guy and I’m happy he completed his vision for his daughter.
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"I don't know how that works because Cark was publicly announced dead". That's comic books thought lol. Happens every time and they never explain it. Peter Parker, Bruce Wayne, Clark Kent, etc. Any time a hero dies or goes missing for years nobody every asks questions when they return.
This movie is becoming one that I need to watch at least once a year...
Anyone watch The Muppets and can't stop imagining Amy Adams is Lois Lane?
at least the climax has a theme in this cut. the original cut was just "yay superheros"
"Batman then uses Gillette to shave...which is really weird, because you'd think Bruce Wayne would spend more than 5.99 on razors"
Sent meeee 🤣😭
A really good commentary that dives deeper into the hidden meanings of ZSJL. I'm not gonna lie, as much as I loved this film, I kinda thought that the movie was extremely shallow compared to something as loaded as BvS and MoS. But this vid made me realize I was wrong, and ZSJL was MUCH more subtle about its themes than those two movies.
And from the looks of it, it seems like this type of more subtle storytelling worked better for the general audiences. It's also probably why a lot of them felt something "welling up inside them" whenever they saw some scenes but are unable to elaborate on it. I think your video pretty much uncovered the movie's hidden elements that were causing these unexplainable emotions and thoughts we experienced as audiences.
One thing I have to add: As much as I loved this movie, I absolutely agree with you that this movie feels incomplete, even on a detail-level. It's interesting because MoS and BvS are movies that can stand on their own without each other, but ZSJL feels like a small part that was ripped out of a bigger movie. I think this becomes even more apparent when the movie didn't explain certain parts of the story. Like, why did Darkseid forget about Earth's location? (There was apparently a civil war in his homeworld, which could easily explain how his former allies would have erased Earth's coordinates somehow as a last "f you" before falling to Darkseid.) Why doesn't Flash just spam time reversal? (The movie kinda implies this, but if Flash reverses time to save something, then something of equal value will be lost, which explains how reviving Superman got Silas killed, and saving the world would result in the knightmare world.) I honestly would have preferred if Zack showed scenes that explained these problems, but it's clear that Zack, although having clear explanations for these things already, decided to elaborate on these interesting problems in the sequel. Stuff like this definitely shows ZSJL isn't a movie that's supposed to be able to stand on its own.
But yeah, aside from this, it's honestly a splendid movie that takes you on big trip. If I'm not mistaken, I think you were pretty mixed on BvS, so it's awesome to hear that you enjoyed this movie more.
Thanks for the awesome essay. I can appreciate this movie even now thanks to you.
If you're really interested in the religious subtext and want a deeper dive into it, look up Nathan Knows dissection of the movie.
@@anyanyanyanyanyany3551 I'll take a look at that. Thanks a bunch!
It’s “you spoke”, joss added, “you smell good”
Her line is "you spoke" to which Clark replies "did I not before?" Watch it again if needed. Even the subtitles say "you spoke" not Josh Whedon's "you smell good."
"You spoke" not "You smell good" in Zack Snyder's Justice League... although I'd imagine her surprise that he smelt good after the Kryptonian amniotic fluid and Cyborg's Gillette/ Axe spray cannon would do the trick either way... carry on then 🤣🙏🏽#RestoreTheSnyderVerse
@@kp1x lol ty... tone gets lost in text... its fine.
Always a great time watching your videos, you strike a great balance of humour and actual new insights I hadn't necessarily though of before or at least haven't heard. Also definitely worth sending this to Amy Adams' management so she hears your proposal
If you are a fan of this franchise & want to see it continue, them I would encourage you to read the article in the Hollywood Reporter, where they interviewed Ray Fisher (Cyborg), and he goes into more detail about what happened to him during production of this movie, and how both the director (Joss Whedon) and the studio, mistreated him. Then, I'd read the article in Vanity Fair, where they interviewed writer Chris Terrio, and he also had some stories to tell, about how mismanaged everything was. He goes into some detail about just awful those people running WB truly are, as well.
People need to know about this kind of of stuff, so that they can make informed decisions when deciding what entertainment they want to support. I know I don't want to support nothing made by Warner Bros, til they make things right w/Zack Snyder & Ray Fisher! I'm not suggesting people boycott things or be toxic, but...
I plan on being in the comment section on ALL Warner Bros related content from now on, screaming:
😤🤳🏼🔥🔥🔥🔥 #RestoreTheSnyderverse
@@KabbalahSherry I've already seen a lot of stuff about the behind the scenes for a lot of the production and shit, sucks to see how badly so many people were treated (Ray being the most notable but other people obviously being badly treated like Gal too), hopefully Warner do at least improve on that even if they don't continue the Snyder universe
Dude watch it again! Lois says "You spoke" because he hadn't said a word since his death until just then! In Josstice League, she says "You smell good" because....Comedy?
There is so much depth to this iteration of Justice League. I really enjoyed your video. Thank you.
Brilliant analysis ends with "Amy Addams. Please marry me!"
Me: That's my conclusion after seeing the film too!
Superman: "Save Mart---ian"
Batman: "What?"
Superman:" What?"
I don't think Martian manhunter was Martha the entire time.... They're two separate characters. MM was just used in that scene as Martha to help bring her back on her feet.
Great video btw. I also found funny that when Superman got resurrected everyone was calling him Clark lol. Anyway.... Awesome video for an amazing movie.
Yeah, I always felt that scene was an obvious retcon.
Always a primo intro.
Never shut up, Leo. ;)
Great ending clip! :)
Not a perfect movie, but it makes me care about some of the characters, especially cyborg
This was beautiful. Thank you
Fantastic video essay
I'm not really bothered by Superman maiming Steppenwolf or participating in his death. In my book, you threaten to destroy the whole planet, you lose your mercy pass. Superman's never really had the endless mercy that characters like Batman and Spider-Man have traditionally had in the comics. Batman being a murder-machine rings far more false than Superman brutalizing enemies that can clearly take it.
I respectfully disagree.
How does 4 hours = 1 day gone?
I just binge watched 6 hours of Netflix shows
"And the Green Goblin" 😂
I loved this video. It made me love Justice League more. I believe I’ll rewatch it.
It's been a while,...but I might as well
I have one slim defense for the violence Wonder Woman inflicted upon the terrorists in the London bank (and arguably the rest of JL for that matter in Zack's DCEU): Zack Snyder is a Christian, and the Bible keeps bringing up how God will inflict his divine justice upon those who are of wicked nature. But in the context strictly of DC Comics, Diana is the loosest with any no-kill rule (if any); she's a warrior after all. She thrives off of battle
I love the writing in this vid, very entertaining. Well done 😉
I really dig this movie, but hot damn, if Whedon actually tried making a 2-hour version of it to release, instead of adding all the nonsense he did, I wonder what would've happened then.
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You should cover seasons two and three of Daredevil next! Love your videos!! 💯
Just curious, have you ever thought about making a video about the Smallville show?
Please no I’m not finished yet and I don’t want to be spoiled yet
I’m addicted to his videos
I thought the Gillette call-out was gonna be a transition into a Dollar Shave Club ad and I was here for it. Dollar Shave Club, sponsor this man!
This is how you make a justice league movie
People looking back on BvS and MoS and being like ah shit it was part of the plan all along to have it go from grim to light and have faith restored sents me everytime.
No not really, MOS yes, BvS is still frustrating to get through, it’s dark going to more dark and JL is in the middle of light and dark and from the looks of it even MORE dark
That’s not enjoyable
@@ninjanibba4259 yes MoS is dark But then Superman’s Consequences Is truly brought up with BvS and Plus it’s a Batman movie on it’s side so it kinda has to be a dark movie. It all culminates in Clark’s death into which the world would go into despair and By the ending of Justice league and beginning of JL 2 or a majority of it the film would have been lighter due to hope restored after the league formed and Superman came back.
It’s like Jason Momoa said in the snyder cut
None Are Taken Back From The Darkness. Not Without Giving One Up In Return.
Again That’s just my view on the tones.
@@thabreez456 that’s a fine view, but don’t you think Superman and Batman should’ve had their own films of before their on screen? I mean Superman gets his own story and Batman is thrusted into Superman’s story with little time to get a true arc, maybe that would help Batman killing look more justified somehow
Plus JL used Superman as a prop instead of finishing his own arc, Batman gets to bring the team together but all that darkness of him just goes away? Maybe that should be questioned like Superman was in BvS
Idk, it’s all rushed in some areas and with the runtimes given, there’s no reason it wouldn’t be there to flesh things out properly
@@ninjanibba4259 i think cause we’ve already seen a alpha of Batman in Nolan’s trilogy Zack wanted to show a new perspective and So his arc in BvS requires Superman. He needed superman to inspire him and the others,especially Batman for their characters in JL. Notice how in JL when Superman comes back batman doesn’t try to just brute force at him like in BvS where he was so blinded by hatred he didn’t even bother to listen to Clark asking him to help him with Lex. I think mostly that’s why Zack never gave them all a solo movie. Most of their characters were shaped by The League members. Such as Cyborg by Diana and His Father Aquaman’s Ignorance of his responsibilities And his eventual acceptance of it is shown by joining the league. All them are broken and alone in their minds but it takes each other for them to realize they aren’t.
@@ninjanibba4259 we had gotten man of steel and bvs which are both Superman films technically speaking. I do want an actual man of steel sequel tho, but that can’t be blamed on zack, only the studio. As for Batman, same thing but I get the feeling that the studio didn’t want another Batman movie after just getting around to finishing the Nolan trilogy. They probably were hesitant on that which forced zack to make this. At the end of the day tho, this character is different from what we have seen of him before and was made to be that way. An interesting take that u don’t need to like or dislike, but appreciate when his character arc comes full circle.
I love this film
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Wait....... they're were going to cvck Superman?? 🤣🤣
WTF......
Good review very spot on!
Lois actually said 'you spoke' and not 'you smell good'. Little mistake it's fine
It still makes no sense
@@ninjanibba4259 he couldn't speak and when he said 'this is home' it was the first time he spoke. Simple as that.
@@TheRodg43 it still made no sense, why acknowledge that for? I rather it just cut to him in the house and then to playing with the butterfly
Show don’t tell is important, less is more is too
@@ninjanibba4259 "this is home" "you spoke" "did I not before?" it's just three lines.. Plus if he first spoke at the house she still had to acknowledge him speaking..
@@ninjanibba4259 anyways let's agree to disagree
Little note. Lois didn’t say “you smell good” in this one. She says “you spoke.”
Let's be clear: the Bruce-Lois storyline was planned to be the two of them lifting each other out of their guilt and grief throughout the first Justice League movie. Like a widow who's firefighter husband died on 9/11 and became romantically involved with his best friend, or something. And then Superman suddenly re-enters the picture and it can't happen. Bruce knows this, but the damage has already been done. I think this is a very human way to show how people can learn to love again (and Batman, for Christ sake) and what its consequences are. I thought it was bold and a great opportunity. Oh well.
Hope they allow Snyder to make JL 2 and 3 and complete his story.
"Awesome... Well, that is how I feel about Obama". Lol!!
Great analysis!
by no means a perfect movie, such a thing doesn't exist, but a damn good one, leagues better than we could ever have hoped for
Comprehensive Justice League, when LOTR meet Seven Samurai, ZSJL is masterpiece
I feel like Flashpoint already happened in Zack Snyder's Universe, it's just that we never got to know of it on screen. Because of Bruce having those Knightmares.
My headcanon is that Bruce sending Flash to tinker with time caused one universe that was *close* to averting the Knightmare (Josstice League) and then after one more tweak we got ZSJL, which lead to Barry creating Flashpoint and eventually completely averting the Knightmare.
This trilogy should go on history. Never seen anything like it, I don’t think we’ll ever will.
Thank you Zack
He had me cracking up the entire time, referring to characters the actors played from other movies 😆.
Amy Adams next role should be Samus Aran. She has a really quiet and contemplative demeanor that matches the character really well. Start with the Zero Suit and build up the suit with plot points and action. And the whole film should be silent like Wall-E.
Athena, Hades, Poseidon, Hermes and Hephaestus team up to resurrect Apollo.
(I know Ares is an actual guy already, but the guy from MARS who masquerades as a military commander feels like he's kind of an Ares.)
24:30 Damn you just went for it huh.
This channel is such bullshit... Using fancy language to make yourself look smarter without making any interesting points or even really understanding the words used in the first place is the definition of pretentiousness.
The problem is that there is actually a requirement for pretense. If you are actually making interesting points and providing sources for the vocabulary used them you are not really being pretentious, implicitly or otherwise.
the snydercut and the snyderverse in general is very terrible, how can wonder woman lasso hold doomsday but cant hold superman, why are the motherboxes the ultimate weaopn of darksied afraid of superman when darkseid can destroy superman. snyder need to stay away from our characters.
Seriously, they could have gotten back on track with a Man of Steel 2!
im sorry but the real alfred would have had the tea ready for all of them before they arived. And for those asking how would he know to make that much tea, the answer is simple he just was
Hindsight being 20/20.....Zack Snyder should have been chosen to helm Star Wars Episode 7-9
"That's how I feel about Obama"
I WAS EATING BRO. WHY YOU GOTTA DO THAT
This makes me watch snydercut again
9:16 ok I love your videos but that “get pictures of spider-man” line had me dead 🤣🤣🤣
A great video like always my good sir.
Correction: Steppenwolf activates the Unity, and all the kingdoms AND ALFRED watch in horror. Don't underestimate the super senses of the most powerful being on the planet.
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My those were terrible ideas for Justice League 2. I really hope he was gonna change that.
The og plans are just a first draft.
"Yeah, that's how I feel about Obama."
I hollered and I feel bad for that. Not because I am black nor because I am Canadian, but because I can't understand how he went into this joke, political alignment aside (neither Elephant nor Dem. I am just Canadian) .
This just made me love this film even more
She says
-YOU SPOKE
-DID I NOT BEFORE
This movie was awesome but personally I like BvS UE more.
The day I find your intro music will be the happiest day of my life
I think it’s ok pop ko
@@piaroussy OH MY GOD
this video is a master piece,thanks for making it
What's up with the random frames with doodles thrown in?
It's not "You smell good," it's "You spoke"
2:33 any else notice the plain in the background
SHE SAID "YOU SPOKE" NOT "YOU SMELL GOOD"!!!!
My biggest and main problem with the Snyder cut is Superman. The movie does center around how Superman's death is the catalyst for the events of the movie, how Superman being gone is the inspiration for the formation of the justice league, and how Superman is the only member of the justice league powerful enough to defeat Steppenwolf, but it still sets Superman on a darker path whether he's a hero or a potential villain. When he's the hero, Superman wears his black suit as a metaphor to how he has changed, and he brutally attacks Steppenwolf when his job is mainly to subdue his opponent. I feel that the theatrical cut really did bring Superman back and made him be the true Superman.
@Lordyeezusberry I respectfully disagree. Ideals matter, especially when the world is in danger of being destroyed. Ideals can't just be forgotten for convenience or you risk losing sight of what you are fighting for. Superman is special because of the ideals he represents.
@Lordyeezusberry a life without ideals isn't worth living. The knightmare scenes show what happened when Superman loses not only his loved ones, but his ideals. Superman becomes a slave of Darkseid and caused much death and destruction.
@Lordyeezusberry you need ideals against threats like Doomsday and especially evil despots like Darkseid. Superman without ideals isn't Superman.
@Lordyeezusberry without ideals, Superman becomes just as much of a threat as the likes of Doomsday and Darkseid.
@@StareachValcin He doesn't lose his ideals in the knightmare sequence he becomes vulnerable after losing Lois and then falls under the influence of the anti life equation. Plus if he was going to kill Steppenwolf don't you think he would've lasered his whole head rather than his horn?
Also what would they do after subduing him? Throw him into the space? What stops him from coming back with more?
His ideals are still in there when he is dealing with earth problems. This concerns the whole planet.
"You need ideals against threats like Doomsday" was he supposed to talk sense into Doomsday?? I'd like you to explain what do you mean by ideals against aliens invading earth?
that proposal at the end, who could say no?
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Are you kidding Gilette proves Bruce is rich, have you seen the cost of those refills?
Buying another razor with a couple of blades in the pack is cheaper.
*"Well that's how I feel about Obama."*
Wait she doesnt say u smell good, she says you spoke, at 13:15 lol
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You know you want it.
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I don’t mind the idea of Lois having Bruce’s kid too much as long as she wasn’t cheating on Clark. Feels weird but tolerable.
What I don’t like is that Bruce was unable or insufficiently motivated to save Lois unless he learnt it was his own flesh & blood at stake. There’s no way he wouldn’t endanger himself to save Lois, he knows Superman’s hope & light depends on her so for that alone he’d sacrifice himself to save her.
Tweak it a bit like in the first timeline he’s separated by bulletproof glass which he tries to punch through to get to her but in the rebooted timeline after Flash’s warning he’s desperate enough to throw a grenade at the glass to break it but gets injured from the blast & shrapnel.
Then bloodied & bruised as he is he throws himself in front of the Omega beams to save her.
In the storyboards Bruce tries to save her the first time, before he knew she was carrying his child but he comes too late.
This is the timeline in which Barry warns Bruce in BvS, he even says "Am I too soon?" because at that point Bruce hasn't even met Barry yet so Bruce doesn't understand why Lois is the key. After the events of JL, Darkseid comes to earth, Lex tells Darkseid that Lois is Superman's weakness and he comes after her in Batcave. No one expects Darkseid going after her and Bruce can't react in enough time. Knigtmare stuff happens, Barry says to Bruce that's his child Lois is carrying, coming in a correct time this time. Bruce is a bit more protective of her instinctively and he is able react in time this time, taking the omega beams himself.