when I first read the Silmarillion it seemed to me that Melkor's malice wasn't initially innate in him, but it grew out of the sadness that his contrary nature caused him. He didn't work with the other Valar and so become lonely which lead to depression which lead to malice. Maeglin seems to be following a similar path. I'm reminded of Hind scripture where we are called to act in Dharma for the good of all but acting on one's own selfish behalf leads to further disaster, often causing a chain of events that gets worse and worse
This channel is like a hidden gem of Tolkien lore , I felt like im that dwarf who found the arkenstone when i found this channel . This channel is the real arkenstone for lotr fans. You sir got a new sub.
It’s crazy that Aredhel feared Eol so much considering how she was seemingly unfazed by Ungoliant’s Brood and their webs of shadows. Really goes to show how fearsome and wicked Eol was.
Such a dark and discordant tale- hard to believe that it comes from the same author who could write the Hobbit. Tolkien certainly had some horror and thriller chops, it reminds me of the abandoned fourth age story. Great video!
And so we begin one of the three main stories of the Silmarillion which are also great tragedies: Gondolin falls due to Maeglin's treachery, Luthien dies as a mortal for her love of Beren, and Turin suffers Morgoth's curse. Who said Tolkien couldn't write tragedy and dark stuff?
I love this chapter! Such a refreshing change of pace and story telling when compared to the previous more geographic and political tellings. I love how Tolkien’s lore feels like real history accountings. They feel very factual and not overly dramatic. Thus when the drama does hit, it hits hard.
Oh no! I just started reading the Silmarillion and these videos have been necessary for me to understand and get through and appreciate each chapter. What am I going to do now???
Sad that five weeks have passed without a new video. I've been recommending your channel to all my D&D friends, many of whom have wanted to read the Silmarillion but have been daunted by its prose. Really hope you keep on going cos your videos are perfect for beating the night terrors to sleep and far better than other channels I've seen when it comes to explaining the Sil. Please continue cos I can't wait to hear about the fall of Beleriand in your voice, eerily enough :D Edit: just been through all the other vids in the playlist to like them but stop livestreaming and keep explaining the Silmarillion goddammit..
I think it's quite sad how if Idril showed Maeglin affection as a family member rather than distancing herself from him, The Fall of Gondolin could've possibly been avoided. So in actuality, Idril indirectly contributed to the Fall of Gondolin by giving him the cold shoulder instead of helping him. She must've known Maeglin was a deeply troubled individual considering her wise and intelligent personality and knowing of his feelings of her. It puzzles me as to why she would give him the cold shoulder or at least that's what Tolkien implies happened from the texts. It also makes me curious as to why she didn't tell her father about Maeglin's feelings, surely he would've addressed Maeglin and gave him council.
So many great stories in Gondolin. Maeglin's intention from the start was a bit wicked bc he wanted to learn the location of Gondolin by any means he could. Which meant whittling down his mother or by reading her mind against her will. He was driven by the idea of becoming the heir to the king of Gondolin. When he fell in love with Idril, he behaves much like his father did when Eol entrapped Aredhel to his dwelling then taking her as his wife. Another story says he forcibly took her against her will. I would love to see Eol's black armor that was supple yet hard enough to stop a blade or arrow.. Absolutely fascinating story telling.
Maeglin is arguably more evil than his father because he is much more ambitious. Though Eol is incredibly sinister, he does not desire (with the exception of aredhel) to control that which is not already his. Maeglin, on the other hand, has a far greater desire to take what is not yet his, and as a result, the damage he does is much more widespread.
I grew impatient and stopped watching these over a year ago because of the length of time between videos. The production value and information contained in these videos is superb, and first-rate. They need to make (What I would joking call:) A "New International Version" of the Silmarillion that gathers canon and makes a better compilation in a more contemporaneous language. I appreciate the artistic style in the use of archaic English. It's artistically fitting, but makes for difficult reading. I've come back only to hit another cliffhanger. Well, your work, style, and effort is deeply appreciated, and in future if you want any voice work done, I would love to audition with a script sometime. ;) Thanks for doing what you do!
I'm really glad you came back to it, and I hope you can hold onto your patience while I continue to work on new episodes. And I am looking for more voice actors for upcoming episodes; if you have a showreel or sample that you'd like to send me, you can email me at: danofgeekdom@gmail.com -- or just hit me up on Twitter -- I'm predominantly looking for those who can do western European accents. 😁
Silmarillion is such a great book. Far more dramatic and emotional. With female characters driving the action more than male, dwarves and elves who aren't in line with their monarchs or racialized priorities, who focus on personal goals or conflicts.
Yeah it would have been nice to see a couple, but maybe that was because the elves looked at the past and learned from the mistakes of their ancestors.
For some reason, as I was reading, I thought Eöl might survive the fall. I'm glad he did not. His last words were used to curse his son, so good riddance.
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When i first read The Silmarllion , the fall of Gondolan always captivated me most. I think its time to read it again. 👍
when I first read the Silmarillion it seemed to me that Melkor's malice wasn't initially innate in him, but it grew out of the sadness that his contrary nature caused him. He didn't work with the other Valar and so become lonely which lead to depression which lead to malice. Maeglin seems to be following a similar path. I'm reminded of Hind scripture where we are called to act in Dharma for the good of all but acting on one's own selfish behalf leads to further disaster, often causing a chain of events that gets worse and worse
This channel is like a hidden gem of Tolkien lore , I felt like im that dwarf who found the arkenstone when i found this channel . This channel is the real arkenstone for lotr fans.
You sir got a new sub.
We need more commenters that can express themselves poetically, hope you'll have a great time here 😀
It’s crazy that Aredhel feared Eol so much considering how she was seemingly unfazed by Ungoliant’s Brood and their webs of shadows. Really goes to show how fearsome and wicked Eol was.
Such a dark and discordant tale- hard to believe that it comes from the same author who could write the Hobbit. Tolkien certainly had some horror and thriller chops, it reminds me of the abandoned fourth age story. Great video!
Just wait until we get to Túrin Turambar... 😢
@@VoiceofGeekdom The Children of Húrin were *not* into little sister eroge (yes, that is a real thing).
The Necromancer, just in name, is a lot creepier and more evil than Eol could ever be.
And so we begin one of the three main stories of the Silmarillion which are also great tragedies: Gondolin falls due to Maeglin's treachery, Luthien dies as a mortal for her love of Beren, and Turin suffers Morgoth's curse. Who said Tolkien couldn't write tragedy and dark stuff?
Thank you guys for letting me be part of this!
Thanks Chase, your voice work really stole the show!
Beautifully done! Your voice actors are first-rate.
I'm very lucky to have had such talented volunteers show up for me! 😁
I literally just started reading this chapter and this video popped up. LMAO
It was fate 🙌🏻
I love this chapter! Such a refreshing change of pace and story telling when compared to the previous more geographic and political tellings. I love how Tolkien’s lore feels like real history accountings. They feel very factual and not overly dramatic. Thus when the drama does hit, it hits hard.
Oh no! I just started reading the Silmarillion and these videos have been necessary for me to understand and get through and appreciate each chapter. What am I going to do now???
Sad that five weeks have passed without a new video. I've been recommending your channel to all my D&D friends, many of whom have wanted to read the Silmarillion but have been daunted by its prose. Really hope you keep on going cos your videos are perfect for beating the night terrors to sleep and far better than other channels I've seen when it comes to explaining the Sil. Please continue cos I can't wait to hear about the fall of Beleriand in your voice, eerily enough :D Edit: just been through all the other vids in the playlist to like them but stop livestreaming and keep explaining the Silmarillion goddammit..
Have you found one comparable because I've passed the last video now too
@@athenaspsyche Tolkien Untangled and Nerd of the Rings are pretty good as well.
I think it's quite sad how if Idril showed Maeglin affection as a family member rather than distancing herself from him, The Fall of Gondolin could've possibly been avoided. So in actuality, Idril indirectly contributed to the Fall of Gondolin by giving him the cold shoulder instead of helping him. She must've known Maeglin was a deeply troubled individual considering her wise and intelligent personality and knowing of his feelings of her. It puzzles me as to why she would give him the cold shoulder or at least that's what Tolkien implies happened from the texts. It also makes me curious as to why she didn't tell her father about Maeglin's feelings, surely he would've addressed Maeglin and gave him council.
So many great stories in Gondolin. Maeglin's intention from the start was a bit wicked bc he wanted to learn the location of Gondolin by any means he could. Which meant whittling down his mother or by reading her mind against her will. He was driven by the idea of becoming the heir to the king of Gondolin. When he fell in love with Idril, he behaves much like his father did when Eol entrapped Aredhel to his dwelling then taking her as his wife. Another story says he forcibly took her against her will. I would love to see Eol's black armor that was supple yet hard enough to stop a blade or arrow.. Absolutely fascinating story telling.
Maeglin is arguably more evil than his father because he is much more ambitious. Though Eol is incredibly sinister, he does not desire (with the exception of aredhel) to control that which is not already his. Maeglin, on the other hand, has a far greater desire to take what is not yet his, and as a result, the damage he does is much more widespread.
Great video! Love the story of Maeglin and would be interesting to see live action. Also a great role for an actor
Great video from one of my favourite Tolkien channels.
Omg this story when I read it I wasn’t liking it to much but the way you broke this down is greatness. Thank you
I grew impatient and stopped watching these over a year ago because of the length of time between videos. The production value and information contained in these videos is superb, and first-rate. They need to make (What I would joking call:) A "New International Version" of the Silmarillion that gathers canon and makes a better compilation in a more contemporaneous language. I appreciate the artistic style in the use of archaic English. It's artistically fitting, but makes for difficult reading. I've come back only to hit another cliffhanger.
Well, your work, style, and effort is deeply appreciated, and in future if you want any voice work done, I would love to audition with a script sometime. ;) Thanks for doing what you do!
I'm really glad you came back to it, and I hope you can hold onto your patience while I continue to work on new episodes.
And I am looking for more voice actors for upcoming episodes; if you have a showreel or sample that you'd like to send me, you can email me at: danofgeekdom@gmail.com -- or just hit me up on Twitter -- I'm predominantly looking for those who can do western European accents. 😁
So had Maeglin been slain by Eol, would the fall of Gondolin would have been delayed and occured much differently without Maeglin's betrayal?
Probably yes.
Silmarillion is such a great book. Far more dramatic and emotional. With female characters driving the action more than male, dwarves and elves who aren't in line with their monarchs or racialized priorities, who focus on personal goals or conflicts.
Will the rest of the chapters get videos? I just finished ch 17 and I don't see a video for it. I'll try to find one by someone else I guess.
Shame that in the Second and Third Ages, there are hardly any elves that were bad and corrupt as Feanor, the sons of Feanor, Eol or Maeglin.
Yeah it would have been nice to see a couple, but maybe that was because the elves looked at the past and learned from the mistakes of their ancestors.
@@thehoneybunempress1664 That's true.
Why Morgoth never bothered to use Eol and his hatred of the Noldor as a tool for his (Melkor's) personal gain?
Perhaps at that time Melkor still had business with the race of Men. CMIIW
For some reason, as I was reading, I thought Eöl might survive the fall. I'm glad he did not. His last words were used to curse his son, so good riddance.