Deku does actually have a way to kill Gojo. As we see in the Sukuna vs Gojo fight that Gojo can be interacted with even with infinity on because when Sukuna throws a slash at Gojo the shockwave from the slash is able to interact with his hair so the only thing Deku has to do is create a strong enough shockwave in order to kill Gojo and this may not come as a surprise but he most definitely can. As during Shiggy and Deku’s fight they both are able to create island level shockwavesi. So if Deku is able to generate strong enough shockwaves which should be easy with the help of his gauntlets he could potentially win. But this is just a potential way Deku could kill Gojo so take what I say with a grain of salt. Also there are other characters in MHA capable of putting JJK in a pack one of them being Shiggy and I do think he has more and better ways of putting them down especially Gojo as he has quirks like Radio Wave which can potentially bypass infinity and Air Canon allowing him to generate shockwaves that can destroy mountains. But with the Deku potentially bypassing infinity argument this is something that you should take with a grain of salt.
The reason the shockwave from sukuna’s slash got through was simply due to the fact that it wouldn’t harm him, and only final fight shiggy would be able to really do much, but what I see is people constantly compare them via battle to the death, but what if we just view it as if they were put in the verse? Well simple, he would try to get rid of sukuna as fast as possible, and shit y’know?
gear shift actually is stronger then infinity since gear shift shifts reality a little, probably getting through infinity for a split second so yeah only gojo would give Deku a problem, also stronger hax will always be better then infinity
So this guy dosnt know how infinity works anything gojo perceives as a threat his technique will create infinite space between the object or person the only reason sukunas CT can go through it is because gojo can't sense nor see it he can sense and see deku so before deku even touches him infinite space would be created and I think its safe to say infinite void solos deku it took normal humans from gojos 0.2 second domain expansion 2-3 months now while he's in there he cant do anything and if it was a full domain and not 0.2 he would be turned into a vegetable
@@frostydog1191 then again infinity is just simple space, which is why sukuna's slash got through, attacking said space youc an bypass infinity, and like I said, gear shift shifts reality a little, I didn't say he bypasses it completely but can get through for a split second, but yeah a domain would probably cook bro, but knowing deku he wouldn't get to close to be in gojo's range since Deku has no information on limitless, needing him to be cautious, but yeah remove infinity and Gojo is cooked by basically every person in fiction, with or without reality shifting abilities
Deku wins with his gear shift that's all there is to it, Gear shift can speed up or slow down little object and with ofa it recieved a huge boost : he can now do it at cellular level which means that he can slow poeple down like he does for himself + Gear shift ignores inertia so if it is combined with fa jin and ofa it breaks the very laws of physiques, and well the infinity of gojo work with physiques like you are explaining at 14:05 So deku just walk on gojo Bonus domain expansion wouldn't work for 3 reasons 1 deku would see it coming with danger sense so he would prevent gojo from doing it 2 again deku see it coming so he step back from it and with his speed with Gear shift he is easely away in 0.5 seconds top 3 even if he get caught in the domain the previous ofa users would protect him like they've done it in Season 2 (vs shinso), 6(to prevent shigaraki of getting ofa) , and the manga (same reason as for s6) So there deku wins against gojo
And also there is no pizza Guy here only the greatest hero of his verse, still an active hero and a great teacher at one of the most prestigious hero school Put some respect on him
@@GamingJC-x1f Manga prime deku is currently Multi continental. But at his very best alot of mha manga powerscalers are aguring to say that he is planetary. And thats the same for Shigaraki. Personally i definitely dont think that at all Deku and shigaraki are both at multi continental. No where near planetary. Theres only 2 characters in mha that are that level The rest are street-country level Deku can change the weather with just a punch. He is comparable to prime all might who used to basically have the power to nuke cities back in the day. Also weakened all might in season 1 took 300 punches to beat the usj nomu and he punched him out the stratosphere (proven by all mights ultimate in MHOJ2). But he said himself that in his prime it would’ve took 5 punches to beat him. That is how massive the power difference is between Weakened all might and prime all might. And deku has already said back in his dark deku arc that he is way more powerful than all might in his prime. And deku is strong at that point but NOT as strong as he was in his prime manga form. Dekus last punch was so powerful it was felt all the way in America. Which instantly makes it a multi continental feat. He can go hand to hand with shigaraki Someone who has literally took multiple nukes the face like nothing and survived. He has decayed cities in just seconds. And shigarakis Presence alone made a Volcanic Eruption. He also went against the number 1 American hero which is Star and Stripes. She has the power to touch anything and say its name and she can change the law of it So basically she can touch the air and be like “All Air infront of me is GONE” It would indeed begone and she almost killed shigaraki that way but he was way too strong and survived it. Deku in the 2nd movie showed a country level feat as well. Deku can move so fast that he breaks the laws of physics. There is literally a panel in the manga that says that. Right now Deku Multi-continental and is Mftl+ Some of his quirks: Ofa+Gearshift+Fa jinn are really broken quirks that give deku this kind of speed For example for fa jinn If deku keep repeating tons of movements he can store the kinetic energy and use it whenever he wants and it will let out a instant burst of speed and power. So basically if deku wanted to he could store up fa jinn for like a year and then use it and he would probably evaporate himself because of how fast he would go. Then u also have shigaraki who is a bioengineered superhuman with many quirks, super regen and just really broken abilitys who can decay cities in seconds, erupt a volcano with his mere presence and even decay space and time properties. Whole mha verse is planetary but the strongest characters are around country-multi continental. There are some very powerful characters in mha. Too bad it gets hated on so much that people just assume that it has a weak verse. In the newest movie trailers they literally show cracks in the sky and shit as if it was doctor strange or smt Characters literally having dimensional breaking abilities. Yeah for infinity. U can get past infinity with good enough speed or inverted spear of heaven. The lightspeed feats in mha have always been true. Aoyamas lasers have been stated many times to be light and if his lasers werent light. Then they wouldnt be able to light up dark areas or reflect of toru (which torus whole power is literally to reflect light) Theres also most likely a combination of quirks that all for one and shigaraki can do to get past infinity Shigaraki and deku keep evolving. Deku can warp reality so that could get him through. Plus deku has fought against someone that has a similar power to gojos infinity. Obviously they are not the same but they still work the same. Flect turn from the 3rd mha movie deku fought against him. His quirk is reflect so basically anything he comes in contact with close to his body it just reflects. And his quirk is a power that is ALWAYS ACTIVE so he cant turn it off His power is so broken that he couldnt even kill himself. His family couldnt even touch him. Deku managed to get past with plot armour and big punches. Yeah it doesnt work the same as infinity but it still gives deku the experience of fighting someone he cant touch. Star and stripes could get past gojo its like a 50/50 her power is called new order. It allows her to touch something, say the name of it and add a rule to it. She was so broken that they killed her off really quickly. So basically she can be like *touches air* Then she says “Air, the air infront of me will disappear” and basically that would happen. Which would remove any sort of air including any oxygen. She even created a giant susanoo of herself. She could get past infinity. But yeah. Jjk compared to mha is like darth vader against children. Jjk is city level at best and mha is multi continental-planetary. Jjk characters are nothing more than regular humans compared to mha characters Also quirks are not magic. They are a physical thing. And characters in mha with quirks, they are automatically already much more durable and stronger than regular humans For example. Shoto todoroki. He has no quirks that help him be more durable or regen or help him be built stronger in anyway. But he can survive get thrown really fucking hard through a building and barely be hurt by it. Even if u dont have a quirk that focuses on your durability Your still naturally really durable if u are born with a quirk. Another example is lemilion. His quirk allows him to phase through shit like obito. Or like a ghost. And somehow he can punch really fucking hard that a giant monster goes flying. Mha characters with quirks are just naturally really strong and durable.
@@YurokiHakugaisha I think people say shigaraki is planet level due too decay amongst other quirks cause decay awakened is Hella strong destroying any an everything so i think that's why they say he's planetary level
I've seen a couple of vids on deku vs the jjk verse and this comment section seems to be the one in the most denial. There are two things to keep in mind: 1. The jjk verse is a lot weaker than you think. The only characters within jjk that generally even have a chance against anyone outside their own verse is of course, Gojo, sukuna nad mahoraga. 2. Deku is a lot STRONGER than you think. A lot of the misinformation with Deku's power comes from ppl who haven't seen the show, did not pay attention or are straight haters. Aside from Gojo, sukuna nad mahoraga, Deku can easily beat any other character. Maybe a little bit of struggle here and there but Deku is simply that strong.
Alr guys lemme tell you how Deku completely one shots Gojo. First things first, Gearshift is the only reason why Deku wins and for a good reason. As stated in the manga and known by many, Gearshift ignores inertia or "Newton's first law of motion". This law basically states that an object at rest will stay at rest unless a force is applied. An object in motion will stay in motion unless a forces is slowing it down or stops it. This law also works on a sub-atomic level. Deku essentially bypasses all that and therefore also breaking one of the fundemental laws of reality. This means Deku can go from 0 to 100% in an instant. Now for the consequences, if an object ignores inertia (which is also known to hold together the universe) that object would rip apart at a sub-atomic level. However, that is not what we see happening so we can assume the objects or beings Deku uses gearshift on also have some sort of resistance to this. An object which bypasses Inertia would also be moving and stopping randomly and be incredibly unstable. The only reason why Deku doesn't go flying everywhere is that he choses which direction to go in by using some sort of force like a push or jump or even a punch in the air which would work because when one is ignoring inertia they aren't affected by external forces like gravity or air resistance. Now comes the crazy part, if he does infact ignore Inertia and completely bypasses it while being uneffected by other forces, this would mean he would not only accelerate instantly but also infinitely. He would therefore accelerate to the universes speed limit which would be light speed. In addition to this, Deku isn't a particle like light he is a living being, he has a defined mass which would further break reality and if he used fajin to go overdrive he'd already be 5-10 times faster than light and since he breaks the universes speed limit which is light, the next logical step would be to aim for infinite speed which is the fastest speed at which an object can theoretically move. And because deku infinitely accelerates, he wouldn't stop at light speed but continue to accelerate beyond it. Alr enough yappin and i also stole this from D.bunk_ go check the guy out. Bro is better at explaining.
Midoriya one-shoting half of JJK's cast is really inevitable. I would say that only Gojo, mahito, and maybe the "gamble as a DE" have a chance. Arguing that he can't see curses is also kinda bullshit because it works of negative emotions, and I think being used as a punching bag for 10y and getting told to kill himself would do the trick. Mahito is literally overhaul all over again, but on higher difficulty, and Gamble guy needs some extreme luck Gojo is kinda hard to measure, but people often forget that black has never mass nor air resistant, which would allow it to pass through infinity. As for Gearshift and far Jin, I like to think it canceled each other out. Just imagine a random teen trying to square up with you and punching you in the face with normal force despite infinity
since deku can ignore inertia with fa jin and gearshift, he can outrun a blue, hollow purple and bypass gojo's infinity (everybody else in jjk gets cooked)
I already knew Deku could take out the majority of the JJK verse with an exception of Gojo and an uncertainty of Sukuna. Better be careful about how you treat fast food workers from now on. 😳
@@thedarknessinthelight9824yeah sukuna is fucked because no in jjk has the durability to tank any of dekus serious punches. Only thing saving people is hacks
Well, Deku can easily blitz jjk vers, including Gojo, Yuki, Mahito and so on ( mha scaling is far higher then people might think ). Ability to warp laws of Reality ( which includes time, space, physics and so on ) already allows to pass though Infinity and kill Gojo in one punch ( Domain Amplification was a space warping and it was enough to ignore Infinity, so Deku can do the same, you actually don't give any reason why it can't work🤷♂️. Especially when in manga was shown how space warp ). And Deku can easily produce enough power to fully destroy Mahoraga in one punch ( he actually turn AFO into nothing at the end of the manga by just a strong punch and even that version of AFO is already way more powerful then anyone in jjk, while Deku was weakened, so Mahoraga will instantly die ). Deku will kill Yuki before she can do something. Deku show ability to Damage souls and consepts as even Weakened AFO was able to fully destroy Vestiges World, which is Metaphysical Space, which could scale him to 5D, the same for Deku, and AFO was able to damage Deku's soul and even devour vestiges/souks, “the spiritual or immaterial part of a human being or animal, regarded as immortal”, this accurately fits the vestiges because not only do they resemble the humans and have willpower, Deku states that the long-dead OFA predecessors are alive within the vestige world. Deku and Shigaraki both have resistance to Soul manipulation and both can damage souls. Deku was able to damage Black Ball, which exist around Shigaraki soul and was representation of his feelings, which easily scale Deku to 4D, as he can punch something which is made of feelings and don't exist in a physical realm or reality itself ), so Deku can easily kill Mahito. Deku is far more powerful then everyone in jjk, which allows him to blitz the entire vers ( even Deku 5% is enough for that when it comes to speed, strenth and durability ). Gearshift allows to use Gears, base Gear is Deku's own speed, but from Second Gear to Top Gear Deku increase his power and speed at least two times with every Gear. Also, Deku can combine that ability with Fa Jin, which gives him ×5 boost ( reffering to Quintuple Smash ). Plus, all Quirks combin give Deku a boost in power, at least ×2,26, as he turn his 45% into equivalent of 120% ( which we call as "Full Power Deku 45%" ). For AP, in MHA Team up Mission Weakened Base Nine show Small Planet level feat by creating an incredibly huge storm so fast that Deku and Bakugo can't even see it ( the same Deku and Bakugo who easily react at lightspeed attacks ), which is KE: 5.2489637927902E+30 Joules or Small Planet level, and that was only Weakened Base Nine, while Full power Nine is far higher then that and Nine is still only on Weakened AFO level. Or about Uraraka feat, Uraraka's feat with with lifting Toga's clones is way more impressive then you could think at the beginning, Uraraka scale to KE:2.98×10^34 Joules or 7.13 Yottatons (calculing number of clones, their mass and how fast Uraraka threw them up they can't even recognize it, take in mind that mha characters can easily dodge lightspeed attacks like Aoyama’s navel lazer, at the beginning of the series. as 1 ton of TNT is approximately 4.18×10^9 joules, then 2.98×10^34 Joules / 4.18×10^9 per ton = 7.13 × 10^24 tons, 1 yottaton (Yt) is 10^24 tons of TNT ), so Uraraka's feat is actually 7.13 Yottatons of TNT ( wich Large Planet level ). So Uraraka is already far more powerful then jjk vers. Now, for Deku and Shigaraki. Firstly, we need to know Weakened AFO/All Might AP ( both of them are comparable to each other ), Endeavor show that he is comparable to Weakened AFO. Endeavor is way more powerful then Uraraka ( I think it's quite obvious even without explanation ), Endeavor is in a whole different league compared to Uraraka, he can be easily 4-10 times stronger then Uraraka ( even in MHA Databook was stated that Uraraka power is 4/6, whike Endeavor is 6/6 ), I will call "4 times stronger" version as "V1" and "10 times stronger" version as "V2". So, that mean Endeavor scale to V1 = 28.52 Yottatons of TNT or V2 = 71.3 Yottatons of TNT ( Large Planet level ), the same power for Weakened AFO and All Might, as Endeavor is comparable to them. For Prime All Might/AFO, was stated that Prime All Might is at least 60 times stronger then his Weakened version, which mean Prime All Might/AFO are V1 = 1711.2 Yottatons of TNT and V2 = 4278 Yottatons of TNT ( Dwarf Star level ). Now, for Young AFO, was stated that he is getting stronger since he getting younger, in his Prime time AFO was 140-160 years old, while his Young Form look on 30 years, that mean AFO get 2-10 times stronger at bare minimum ( we can also take each year s power multiplier, 160/30=5.3 times stronger. So let's take "×5.3" as a mid ball and "×10" as a high ball ). So, Young AFO scale to: V1: 9096.3 ( mid ball ) - 17112 Yottatons of TNT ( high ball. Both of this results are already Star level ) and V2: 22673.4 Yottatons of TNT ( mid ball ) - 42780 Yottatons of TNT ( high ball. Which is Large Star level ). Now, finally we get to Shigaraki, and it's hard to say is he stronger then Young AFO or not, as for both of them was statedd that they are surpass Prime All Might, but we can say that Apex Shigaraki could be stronger then Young AFO, as Shigaraki in his standard form already surpass Prime All Might and Apex Form is the result of his Power Adaptation ( plus, in ch 410 Shigaraki said by himself that he is getting stronger and start adaptation to Deku's speed ), so we can scale Prime Shigaraki to be 2 times stronger then Young AFO, which scale Shigaraki to: V1: 18192.6 Yottatons of TNT ( mid ball ) - 34224 Yottatons of TNT ( high ball ) and V2: 45346.8 Yottatons of TNT ( mid ball ) - 85560 Yottatons of TNT ( high ball ). Now for Deku, Deku 45% by using Fa Jin and Blackwhip on his muscles can already reach Prime All Might level. Let's talk about Gearshift, this power allows Deku to use Transmission and Overdrive, let's talk about two different versions on how we can multiple Deku's power with them, first version: Deku get "120%" with Gears, which is ×2,26 to his power + Overdrive, which give ×5, and after Quintuple Smash Deku get a refill of the Fa Jin, which allows him to use new Overdrive Blast ( which was stronger then first version with Quintuple Smash, as this Blast Overdrive already damage Shigaraki way harder then Quintuple Smash ), which gives Deku next boost of power, ×2 at bare minimum. Now, for Deku scale ( I will take Shigaraki 85560 Yottatons of TNT as an example ): 4278×2,67×5=57111.3 and with stronger Overdrive Blast, 57111.3 × 2 = 144222.6 Yottatons of TNT ( its already close to Solar System level damage. It's also quite consistent, as this attack was way stronger then Shigaraki's power and actually damage him ). And for another Deku Gearshift scale, we can take every Gear ( from Low to Top ) as power up, which mean that every Gear gives Deku at least "×2" boost, and with such scale: 4278×2×2×2×2×5 = 342240 Yottatons of TNT, and 342240 × 2 = 684480 Yottatons of TNT ( Solar System level ). And it's not even peak scale, as even Endeavor can be calculated to Large Star level, as with his power he can produce flames with hit power in 1.0516×10^31 watts, which is far higher then every Star in Universe, and even Weakened AFO stay alive after that, while Prime AFO is far more powerful then Endeavor, So Deku and Shigaraki are both easily Large Star level and Solar Systen level one way or another. Now for speed, calculating Bakugo's feat from ch 359, Human eyev = 0.022 meters, distance between Bakugo and Shigaraki 0,098 meters, distance traveled by explosion was 10685.982 meters, Tower of the UA is 1450.876 meters, we already know that both bakugo and Shigaraki can easily react at ftl+ characters and mftl+ characters, for low ball version let's take 3×10^10 meters per second perception speed or ×10 ftl, then the whole Bakugo speed calculation is V = 10685.982 × 3×10^10 meters per second/0,098 = 3.27×10^15 meters per second, which is 1.09×10^7 (or about 10.9 million) times faster than the speed of light. Bakugo is comparable to Endeavor/Weakened All Might, then Prime AFO/All Might 10.9 × 60 = ×654 millions ftl, Young AFO scale to: 654×5.3 = ×3.46 billions ftl - 654×10=6.54 billions ftl. And for Prime Shigaraki: ×6.92 billions ftl - ×13.08 billions ftl ( just remind you that it's actually a lowball scale ). About Deku, it's several reasons why Deku is Infinite Speed by using Gearshift, but before that, I would say that with regular Gearshift boosts Deku is already faster then Shigaraki, 654×2.67×5×2= 17.4 billions ftl or 654×2×2×2×2×5×2 = 104 billions ftl ( or we can just say that Deku is 10 times faster then Shigaraki, as he move faster then Shigaraki can see, which is ×130.8 billions ftl ), but all of that is actually a lowball versions, as Gearshift gives Deku Infinite Speed for sure, as Gearshift allows to ignore inertia ( Transmission ) which gives Deku ability to reach max possible speed, because of instant and infinite acceleration from ignoring inertia ( also Deku can slow down his opponent, as he did with Shigaraki. Deku also show ability to instaly stop and accelerate to max speed instantly ), and with ability to Warp Laws of governing reality ( mean warp time, space, physics, consepts and so on, including Universal speed limit), which mean that Deku has no limit in speed and with instant and infinite acceleration he can instantly reach Infinite Speed ( also, proof for that is that sound is literally delayed and it's not just Sonic Boom, as you still can see how object moving when he broke sound barrier, while Deku is just dissappear and only then sound appeared, which mean that space itself can't react at Deku's moves, which prove that Deku is Infinite Speed) So yeah, Deku easily blitz jjk vers
Deku outlast gojo and will waste out his cursed energy and when infinity deactivates, oh boy, gojo's cooked, We've already seen deku last multiple weeks without proper sleeping and eating, we haven't seen gojo last that long
@@MorrisAnthony-bg5nk it can still deactivate either way, especially since we see gojo deactivate it when he touches jogo.... oh god that just gave me Nightmares, "cmon now you'll make me shy" gojo's zesty ah 😭
@@TagakiHizakiwe also misinterpret his high intelligence for high battle IQ because at the end of the day he just relies on punching harder no matter if he knows the enemy powers or not
@@TagakiHizaki you do know Yuta has reverse curse techniques so he can basically just keep healing ihis hands from the Detroit smash, see into the future, literally bend space, or just tell him to die. Sorry sir Deku really is useless
Izuku is going to have field day as he has ability that can force it's way through Infinity and he well outscales everyone there. There are only three attacks that are a threat two of which are suicide attacks being Black Hole and Perfect Sphere, and Sukuna's World Cutting Slash but all of the, are relatively easy to dodge.
@@Henry-sg6iv Yeah Gearshift in simplest words makes it so no amount of opposing force is going to stop Izuku thus Infinity won't be a wall that can't be broken through. Essentially think of Domain Amplification which works but much better
Wait but if we’re using verse equalization and Deku has CE, then wouldn’t he be able to bypass infinity by using the air shot he can send out his fingers? It would be like Sukunas WCS right?
@@ghitaianis9022 Yeah I know he’s not cutting air he’s cutting space, so how come Deku wouldn’t be able to break through infinity/space as well. Like I said we are using verse equalization so the Air shots would be like Sukunas slashes in a way due to the fact that he has CE now.
@@itzlight301 well the normal slashes cut through air and they didn't work and even if deku has CE like you can see in the manga you need a technique that has the right hacks to allow you to bypass infinity just CE doesn't allow any technique to bypass infinity. Also deku having CE will be like how yuji does is only used to enhance the attack since yuji, and deku too, don't have a technique.
if we treat quirks like cursed techniques and the vestiges protecting deku from the quirk stealing like the disabling of quirks from angel, isoh, and the black rope, toji is COOKED but, if he can land a hit with the soul split katana deku would easily be sliced due to the durability negating. Edit: You could also treat the protection as defense from higeruma's domain
@@thegreatestoctopus9739 it's not like Deku is moving at FTL every second of his life lol. And Takaba doesn't have to perceive him anyways. The only 3 big weakness of Takaba is if you out joke him, ruin his mental state, and the fact that he doesn't kill.
@@Rawp0st he kinda those need to perceive him. If he doesn't even process the fact that Deku is there, he wouldn't be able to think of something funny. Plus I'm assuming Deku already has OFA active
We can discuss this if you want, I’m down give a proper explanation (Also every character that’s FTL does not warp physics that’s appealing to reality; heak most don’t even accept those theory of relativity Einstein physics because it would mean that anything moving faster than light would require infinite work or energy)
@@cocopebbles3841 exactly, most don’t take that into account because it would make powerscaling a tough challenge, so they just set that aside and ignore it. And to not get shred apart while going at light speed is kinda warping physics as you need to have veeeery little to no mass like light. But elaborate on what you mean by discuss? If you want, you can drop your discord, but I got school rn, so I’ll only be able to talk later bro
@@konoheisenbergda The first message didn't send but I said basically You limiting fiction not only to a set of real physics rather than the mesh it tends to have as well as specifically to the Theory of Relativity rather than the plethora of other different scientific theorems and vastly accepted studies that not only contradict the theory of relativity but also restructure or retcon it. Like light in present day has a calculable speed of 299 792 458 m / s unlike in early ein.
Takaba: it's funny how I made this guy forget that I could hold off this hero kid long enough for Ui Ui to teleport Maki with Soul Split into the kid's heart, killing him. He loses badly if it's a 1vsAll scenario. also, it's not just Gojo and Mahito that could beat Midoriya. Curse Naoya's Domain Expansion would rip him apart. Master Tengen is sealing deku in a looped ouroboros barrier. Takaba would stalemate and incapacitate him. Hana can depower Deku with Jacob's Ladder In the case where Deku kills any sorcerer, he's susceptible to Higuruma's Domain. It gets worse if you grant them teams, for example: Yuta using Curse Speech to stop Deku in his tracks is a set up that leads into a multitude of Deku Ls. He beats about 95% of the verse in 1v1, but he loses in 1vTeams or 1vAll.
I got Gojo's infinity barrier shower thoughts. 1. I kinda understand how the barrier works, it slows something down by adding a extra number to the space that it can create indefinitely. 2. If anything, Gojo sees something as a threat, he can make the trheat be stopped by barrier. Hear me out. Someone who can control light itself, like. You need kight to see, but you are being hurt. If Gojo makes the barrier abke yo stop light. Woukd he becoume blind but invisible? What about air beding? Bro meeds oxigen. Does his space barrior work like a space void or being under water holding his breath? What about yhings that are already inside the barrier? Like a plant, vine or pencil. Someone with an advanced form of chlorokinesis can manipulate those, pencil made of wood and all.
@@Kris_deltarune-69 I think there would be a certain limit to what he can stop cus if he can stop anything, his dimensionality would go like brr and it would make the JJK scaling very weird, with that said he might be able to stop those things. Im just not sure
Bruh. I just though of something. Is this a truely a shower thoughts? Because this thoughts doesn't seems to stop on coming. Should I edit the original coment or make a second one in this section?
with deku's biq he could immobilize him by punching his hand off or just binding him up with blackwhip. Don't forget that deku could really just use danger sense to detect him coming as well.
Manga prime deku is currently Multi continental. But at his very best alot of mha manga powerscalers are aguring to say that he is planetary. And thats the same for Shigaraki. Personally i definitely dont think that at all Deku and shigaraki are both at multi continental. No where near planetary. Theres only 2 characters in mha that are that level The rest are street-country level Deku can change the weather with just a punch. He is comparable to prime all might who used to basically have the power to nuke cities back in the day. Also weakened all might in season 1 took 300 punches to beat the usj nomu and he punched him out the stratosphere (proven by all mights ultimate in MHOJ2). But he said himself that in his prime it would’ve took 5 punches to beat him. That is how massive the power difference is between Weakened all might and prime all might. And deku has already said back in his dark deku arc that he is way more powerful than all might in his prime. And deku is strong at that point but NOT as strong as he was in his prime manga form. Dekus last punch was so powerful it was felt all the way in America. Which instantly makes it a multi continental feat. He can go hand to hand with shigaraki Someone who has literally took multiple nukes the face like nothing and survived. He has decayed cities in just seconds. And shigarakis Presence alone made a Volcanic Eruption. He also went against the number 1 American hero which is Star and Stripes. She has the power to touch anything and say its name and she can change the law of it So basically she can touch the air and be like “All Air infront of me is GONE” It would indeed begone and she almost killed shigaraki that way but he was way too strong and survived it. Deku in the 2nd movie showed a country level feat as well. Deku can move so fast that he breaks the laws of physics. There is literally a panel in the manga that says that. Right now Deku Multi-continental and is Mftl+ Some of his quirks: Ofa+Gearshift+Fa jinn are really broken quirks that give deku this kind of speed For example for fa jinn If deku keep repeating tons of movements he can store the kinetic energy and use it whenever he wants and it will let out a instant burst of speed and power. So basically if deku wanted to he could store up fa jinn for like a year and then use it and he would probably evaporate himself because of how fast he would go. Then u also have shigaraki who is a bioengineered superhuman with many quirks, super regen and just really broken abilitys who can decay cities in seconds, erupt a volcano with his mere presence and even decay space and time properties. Whole mha verse is planetary but the strongest characters are around country-multi continental. There are some very powerful characters in mha. Too bad it gets hated on so much that people just assume that it has a weak verse. In the newest movie trailers they literally show cracks in the sky and shit as if it was doctor strange or smt Characters literally having dimensional breaking abilities. Yeah for infinity. U can get past infinity with good enough speed or inverted spear of heaven. The lightspeed feats in mha have always been true. Aoyamas lasers have been stated many times to be light and if his lasers werent light. Then they wouldnt be able to light up dark areas or reflect of toru (which torus whole power is literally to reflect light) Theres also most likely a combination of quirks that all for one and shigaraki can do to get past infinity Shigaraki and deku keep evolving. Deku can warp reality so that could get him through. Plus deku has fought against someone that has a similar power to gojos infinity. Obviously they are not the same but they still work the same. Flect turn from the 3rd mha movie deku fought against him. His quirk is reflect so basically anything he comes in contact with close to his body it just reflects. And his quirk is a power that is ALWAYS ACTIVE so he cant turn it off His power is so broken that he couldnt even kill himself. His family couldnt even touch him. Deku managed to get past with plot armour and big punches. Yeah it doesnt work the same as infinity but it still gives deku the experience of fighting someone he cant touch. Star and stripes could get past gojo its like a 50/50 her power is called new order. It allows her to touch something, say the name of it and add a rule to it. She was so broken that they killed her off really quickly. So basically she can be like *touches air* Then she says “Air, the air infront of me will disappear” and basically that would happen. Which would remove any sort of air including any oxygen. She even created a giant susanoo of herself. She could get past infinity. But yeah. Jjk compared to mha is like darth vader against children. Jjk is city level at best and mha is multi continental-planetary. Jjk characters are nothing more than regular humans compared to mha characters Also quirks are not magic. They are a physical thing. And characters in mha with quirks, they are automatically already much more durable and stronger than regular humans For example. Shoto todoroki. He has no quirks that help him be more durable or regen or help him be built stronger in anyway. But he can survive get thrown really fucking hard through a building and barely be hurt by it. Even if u dont have a quirk that focuses on your durability Your still naturally really durable if u are born with a quirk. Another example is lemilion. His quirk allows him to phase through shit like obito. Or like a ghost. And somehow he can punch really fucking hard that a giant monster goes flying. Mha characters with quirks are just naturally really strong and durable.
@@SunWukong-e8q fr, he’s always been pretty strong, but now Continental+ for Deku is insane. He’s already stronger than guys like Mob, JJK and hell even my goat Jotaro
@@konoheisenbergda he has consistent multi-continental scales and the Author ONE stated that his ???% mode will be equal to full power Tatsumaki who should be above second form monster Garou who is one shot tier above his previous form which split sage centipede in half and sage centipede is equal to evil ocean water who has consistent moon level scaling
You forgot about Takaba, who can literally warp reality however he pleases as long as he thinks it's funny. Takaba could theoretically be immune to Deku's entire kit, outspeed, and one-shot him.
You've never debated an actual debater then, because the main arguments would be blitzing Gojo's perception, Gear Shift pushing Deku to move so fast he taps into Inf. Speed and bypass Gojo's Infinity Effects, Gojo doesn't have enough AP to damage Deku, or Gojo isn't fast enough to land a hit on Deku
@@NooneYouknow-g8m did you watch the video? I literally mentioned that Gojo in terms of AP/Speed is getting godstomped And no, he doesn’t tap into Infinity via Gearshift. Gearshift is cool and all, but is just another multiplier at the end of the day, said multiplier is not gonna make Deku have infinite speed to counter Infinity.
@@konoheisenbergda Even then, Deku could perception blitz Gojo before his brain could automatically activate Infinity. And I make that comment before the Gear Shift part, Infinite Speed is definitely a stretch but, it can give him even more speed, more than enough to speed blitz Gojo.
@@NooneYouknow-g8m Gojo always has Infinity activated cus of the ptsd Toji gave that man. I can see Deku no diffing a Teen Gojo, fs, but Currrnt Gojo never has had Infinity off once (maybe I haven’t remembered many JJK scenes well)
The part when you were talking about how muscular deku was the scene you showed was from the beginning of the year (chapter 414 bro looks like super Saiyan blue Goku) also the slab of metal he used in the sports festival weighed like 1,000 pounds
I just started watching, but even though Deku can't bypass Gojo's infinity, he would be stronger than most JJK characters unless we use the large planetary scaling for them, which then JJK solo
I think you kinda downplayed JJK they're not crazy strong. However, the higher-ups should be scaled to large Mountain to like country level consistently, so yeah, still the same outcome Deku wins also I love femboys so another thing I disagreed with the vid but besides that I completely agree Deku wins
@@konoheisenbergda I uh forgot to mention something about Gojo funny enough, which, if true or whenever you accept it as true, could completely change the outcome of the fight me personally I don't believe it at all however I thought it was something worth mentioning which is the possibility of Gojo having inaccessible speed due to the fact that when he was trapped by that weird box thing (I forgot what it was called or who trapped him lmao) it was stated that time or space doesn't exist there/pass meaning to move in there Gojo would have to have Inaccessible speed. It's most likely actually it is an outliner. However, I thought it was something worth mentioning for like an extreme high-end for speed. Plus, you could argue that he was referring to Gojo not being able to age in there instead of it lacking time completely.
Pretty much view the Inaccessible speed scaling as the same way you would view the Large Planetary scaling. You either call them an outliner and go by with your day or say they're a high-end for the JJK verse and go by with your day unless you want to meat ride or make a fight interesting by using these higher end feats then go ahead that's fine by me. FYI: I don't think Large Planetary is that crazy for the JJK verse, tbh However, I understand why people don't really accept it. To me, Large Mountain to like Country level potentially even higher is consistent imo however what do I know? I'm just some guy on the internet with an opinion.... so what I think we learned is that JJK higher ends is extremely fucking OP compared to other verses lmao
In all honesty, Deku slams 99% of the JJK verse, But Deku vs Gojo is a no contest. Deku can’t bypass infinity, and gojo can’t keep up with Deku’s speed. But if Deku manages to drain Gojo’s cursed energy, then Gojo would get his shit rocked. But otherwise, there is no winner in this battle.
@@tenshadowsnotbumgumi i honestly agree. Deku outclasses gojo in every aspect. power, speed and intelligence. The only thing that’s holding Deku back from beating gojo is gojo’s bullshit infinity.
@@idontknowshtr7634 prove me wrong 😭 plus it isn’t air, it’s pressurized. You’re telling gojo to block something that literally could go down to electrons
@@akita.1sinfinite void?! You can’t block that crap with pressurized air and there is no counter to it plus infinity deku cant bypass infinity for more than a second
@@Adventurist01 so you concede to the point that gojo cant block air pressure, cool Deku is leagues faster and stronger. He beats gojo before he even gets his domain.
Deku vs todo(deku wins todo might land 1 hit) Deku vs yuji(deku solos with low diff) Deku vs megumi(neg diff) Deku would solo grade 5-special grade 1 Deku vs yuta(mid diff) Deku vs maki(no diff) Deku vs toji(same as maki) Deku vs jogo(mid diff) Deku vs miwa(miwa solos) Deku vs sukuna (extreme diff) Deku vs gojo(gojo extreme and I MEAN EXTREME DIFF) Deku vs gojo no infinity(deku mid diffa)
This is honestly one of the better videos I’ve seen on this but it’s still mind-boggling to me, i’m not gonna argue that you’re wrong because I don’t think you are but I do think it’s insane that Deku is able to destroy JJK. I am a fan of JJK but I don’t try to glaze any anime as I love a lot of them, I used to love my hero academia so much but there was so many moments of plot holes and I didn’t like the direction they were taking Deku (also a lot of cool characters just don’t get a lot of screen time) since the very beginning it was shown that he was meant to be a very smart person and study peoples quirks but through almost every single fight he ever is in, he just finger flakes and punches/kicks people. Then he gets multiple quirks and starts to just become Jesus of the world, I just wish he studied his enemies more and actually did things I thought were interesting other than just going super fast and punching hard. Good job on the video but I really wish Deku didn’t win as I think realistically he shouldn’t. (I know it’s anime and you shouldn’t say realistically but come on man, this guy didn’t have a quirk then gets this, and was breaking every single bone in his body early on just for him to become the strongest person basically in the anime. Like endeavor being able to create fire, was apparently a strong quirk, then we have this guy being able to probably destroy multiple islands with just one punch and apparently warp “reality”?) again good video but my God.
Also, I know all of this is stupid but this is just been something that’s been bugging me and I just don’t like the fact that Deku can be people like the main big bad (like this dude was literally able to kill something that is able to adapt to staff, his whole technique is practically being able to cut through anything but still loses to a teenager with green hair lol) sorry if all of this was stupid and hurt your brain, I like to believe I’m a big fan of anime and that I am a smart guy, but I just find this honestly kind of mind blowing.
Fr, I think Horikoshi lost it with his writing somewhere and botched up the ending so fucking bad. It’s not that he took away his Quirks being my problem, in fact I like that, that’s good, I’m just so fucking angry to Deku cucking at everyone’s success while he does nothing to try and be a hero, all he does is be some lousy teacher and that’s it! Sure he shares his knowledge to other students and young heroes, but All Might literally has the tech and money to give him a chance to be a hero again. Like, fuck Deku in S1 was able to contend with Bakugo, Salad Bar said that would put him in the Large Building levels of ranges which is insane. Also thanks a lot for the support bro, means a lot
@@konoheisenbergda I can definitely agree as the ending is really dropping the ball, I think it was kind of shown that he would maybe come back with the tech but it’s still all just frustrating but I do understand why he doesn’t get with anyone. They’re all just young and trying to be heroes so it would be adding even more to the plate but I definitely see why everyone hate the ending and I don’t like it either. I would love to share more of my opinions with you as I disagree with some of what was said the most what is factual but still doesn’t make any sense, I literally even had to look up to see because other people were saying all quirks raise physical stats, which with what we see could be true, but it’s never outright stated so it’s more head canon than anything. Which proves my point and makes everything even more hard to gauge as Deku literally gets hurt by punches from people that have quarks that are never outright said to increase their strength, bakugo for sure has increased durability because of his explosion quirk but there’s nothing to show that he outright is physically stronger without using his explosions to speed up (there were times where he actually hurts Deku without speeding up) I literally had someone argue with me of if someone is super strong then they would also be very durable which isn’t necessarily true as we’ve seen in multiple books and animes, that still doesn’t go against my point of Bakugo would have increased durability but there’s no showings of him lifting anything a normal human wouldn’t be able to without his quirk, if people want to disagree and think I’m wrong then that’s fine but these people need to at least see where I’m coming from.
@@konoheisenbergda here are some things I’m thinking about, float is kind of useless as it does give him a range of mobility in mid air but not much. Smokescreen can be somewhat useful but easily dealt with by a lot of characters, danger since is kind of just a op but also stupid as there’s multiple times, it doesn’t work against people who are not trying to hurt him or don’t have malice. gearshift is overall a really weird quirk that I think some people over hype as the best idea with what I know is a practically allows the user to make objects or a person ignore the law of friction, which is all and good until you think about how friction is white create speed and slows things down. meaning technically he would not be able to go faster or slower there for being stuck at whatever speed he just put his self as, there’s also the fact that it limits how much oxygen he will be receiving so he can only use it a limited amount of times. There was more I could say, but I think a lot of that clears what I just thought of at the very moment and I’m sure I could think of way more if I was given time to think
It’s because you normally wouldn’t expect Broccoli Boy to be able to do this stuff. Until you remember all of the stuff he had to go through during the series. The dude had to break his body several times over to learn how to use his abilities and because of that he was able to become a lot stronger than anyone thought he could.
You might be able to argue gear shift getting through infinity because of the fact that it ignored the laws of physics and therefore inertia. In chapter 76, gojo states that he manually used to sort the danger levels of objects based on their cursed energy, which deku doesnt have. But in the same panel he does say that he can now sort them based on the mass, speed AND shape, which if you take literally you could argue he requires either all 3 of those or the cursed energy of an object for infinity to work. Now because gearshift ignores inertia, and without inertia there is no recognisable mass, since the mass of an object and the inertia that acts on it are proportional, you might be able to argue that deku wouldn't have a recognisable mass for infinity to be able to stop him. No idea if this has already been debunked though
gearshift can manipulate the ACCELERATION aspect, not mass. when you are standing still and want to reach top speed, you need to SPEED UP. when you are sprinting and need to stop, you need to SLOW DOWN. with gearshift, you can ignore this speed up/slow down process. you can go from 0 to max speed instantly, and max to 0 speed insantly. but that doesn't matter to gojo as deku still will have a speed, and a mass, and a force, which will be automatically detected and stopped by limitless.
He has danger sense he can easily get out of domain expansion's radios before they even make it's hand singh or just blitzs them from the start. Deku solos all beside gojo cus of infinity
The fact that deku can communicate with the vestiges suggests that deku would know the shape of his soul and the vestiges pulling manito into their soul/quirk realm similar to sukuna
Lemme just debunk the counter arguments Deku gets past Gojo with ease, but he'll tire himself out doing so, as he only ever went MFTL when using Gearshift, and he got extremely exhausted afterwards Deku beats Mahito *soul*-ly due to the fact that Deku understands the soul like Yuji, therefore allowing him to damage Mahito. His domain expansion won't do anything either. Toji is not doing anything at all, if he did, then Maki would've done better anyways. Oh, and they Yuta copying his ability shtick? We already have an example in mha on why that wouldn't work. Monoma! His quirk is Copy, just like how Yuta's CT is Copy. Both work the same way, requirements are different. Just like how Yuta would need to tame the ten shadows if he were to copy Megumi's Technique Deku's quirk is an Accumulation quirk, therefore Monoma couldn't copy it well, as he was not strong enough, nor could he unlock the vestiges quirks. And it's even confirmed in Post-Shibuya that Yuta is only a power type due to cursed energy, and that he's only decent in actual physical strength.
Wait wait wait.... Deku doesn't just need to understand the soul he needs to be able to perceive the spul of himself and others. Which hasn't been shown. Unless we're talking about the seeing kid Shigiraki moments which would barely count only because we don't know if he can attack it
You didn't debunk anything but I agree with you yuta cant copy quirks he can only copy cursed technuiqed and he needs to eat a large enough portion of a cursed user to get there ability. Deku doesn't bypass infinity at all. Moving faster than gojo or blitzing his perception doesn't matter infinity is a wall of infinitely dividing space that will slow deku down and stop any and all if dekus attacks that infinity deems as a threat. Deku can't hurt or see mahito. Toji dies to deku, deku pinky flicks toji. Just gonna say this takaba solos deku if they fought as deku has no counter to comedian.
@@thyentity6295 I looked this up. Gear shift allows the user to move at high speeds while ignoring the law of inertia aka the law of movement. This would allow him to bypass infinity since it wouldn't detect Deku moving. But the catch is it would only work for 5 minutes. And if Deku can't land a solid hit in Gojo who could "teleport" away Deku would exhaust himself leaving him wide opeb
@@bringiton4drago371 yeah no, infinity works by manipulating the concept of infinity and works by dividing space infinity around him, this slows down and stops any incoming attack, deku still travels which all infinity does is add more distance preventing deku from bypassing it
@@thyentity6295 For infinity to slow something down the object has to obey the law of inertia or be Targeted at Gojo specifically. Gear shift (which you look up the quirk) allows the user to move while ignoring the law of inertia (which is bs but hey MHA like the give the middle to most laws of physics) Infinity slowing something down is what creates the infinite distance.....unless infinity is also pushing the object back at the smae time....?
Mahito and Toji don't matter. in these matches, to me, everyone is blood lusted at the jump of Deku speed blitzes and rails the verse except for Yuki's Black Hole, Gojo's Infinity, Yorozu's Perfect Sphere, and Sukuna's World Cutting Slash plus Domain Expansions but even then, most of that is negated because of Deku's crazy Fa Jin + Gearshift + 45% One For All speed feats being FTL to MFTL+ if we're highballing. Deku solos and only saving grace is Gojo's OP Infinity.
Deku absolutely does pass infinity because infinity can literally just be punched through lmao. Y'all act like this ability is near infallible when it's established that it can just be overcome with abilities of greater potency like domains
Gearshift bypasses infinity bc Deku controls his speed .Infinty does not create an infinite space it just slows things down by half instantly.Deku can technically control infinty
Danger sense isn't perfect as if the attack is fast enough it can still hit deku even if he senses it for example lady nagant deku senses the bullet coming and still gets hit by it......either way W video though 👏 👏 👏
I'm pretty sure Deku was tired and extremely sleep deprived while fighting villains nonstop during that arc, so I'm pretty sure Nagant's bullet hitting him wouldn't happen normally
Deku has nothing to do with soul it's just one for all and all for one reacting with each other so mahito provided he takes a few hits is still winning via idle transfiguration
Gearshift can get past infinity Infinity divide's the space between Gojo and a target by 2 an infinite number of times. Gear shift allows deku to increase his speed Basically imagine imagine gojo as the number 0 and Deku as number 1 it doesn't matter how many times you divide 1 by something it will never reach 0 but gearshift introduces subtraction which allows 1 to 0 or in This case deku to reach gojo
@@frostydog1191do u really think unlimited void would pose a threat to someone who can change his speed or anything he touches to light speed Immediately gojo uses unlimited void, danger sense would activate and he would probably move out of the way
@@AlexanderNtui so he misses domain infinity is still up he gets close he cant reach em either gojo can just do another domain and go braindead for a bit or he can somehow pull the bullshittery and land a black flash to refresh his technique and use unlimited void when deku charges him and is stuck hitting air
He’s a bit stupid for not including that once you open a domain a hit is guaranteed unless you have a technique that can deal with it, and deku doesn’t have any techniques he has quirks, not the same also only curses can damage curses
@@konoheisenbergdayes it can forecast danger doesn't mean he will react in time, like the bullet from lady nagant and I doubt he will be fast enough to Dodge a 0.02 domain expansion or an open domain that can expand
@@konoheisenbergda maybe I’m wrong but I don’t think he would be able to dodge something that is stated to be for sure hits, not trying to say you’re wrong but I think he would get hit. The whole idea of domain expansions are you can’t dodge the attacks
He slams all of jjk other than gojo that would either be a stalemate or deku rocks his shit and yes sukuna gets one tapped by deku it's not close and bros not healing from that
In my opinion I think Jogo could potentially catch Deku off guard possibly even beat him because Jogo was only seen fighting against the strongest people in the verse and when he encountered some Grade 1 sorcerers he was actually disrespecting them but just take that with a grain of salt
@@Dachessysigma watch the video dude, I explain that Deku would no diff Sukuna because he doesn’t have any protective hax against him like Gojo and doesn’t have a dura neg ability like Gojo does with Unlimited Void
@@Dachessysigma dude watch the video! I literally said that he wouldn’t! The whole point of the video is to answer ‘if’ Deku can solo, I never said he can solo in the title. Watch the video instead of asking, jeez
You need cursed energy to damage and cursed spirit and to those deku fans who say that no diffs sukuna deku will only be able to as most deku fans say will use his danger sense to dodge all of sukunas attacks and some of y'all say he moves faster then light
Isn't it funny how shindo could solo jjk, he has great reaction feats and speed with the scarf and the minute he catches someone in brainwashing ITS OVER
@@dreamtiya8149 I never said that, I said he can use smoke screen to throw off all his opponents and just one shot them one after on another as they try to search for him in the smoke
@@konoheisenbergda they would still know where he is based off of the simple fact that he's in the domain as long as he has CE they could automatically tell exactly where he is regardless of smoke I'm not saying that it helps him win it's just something that he would probably realize rather soon and stop doing all together
@@dreamtiya8149 true, as I said, there would have to be verse equalisation in this fight, but Deku would just massively speedblitz before they even really think about using their DE and this applies to everyone, except Gojo. He’s literally dodged light and using very many multipliers you can scale him to FTL+. Whereas I mentioned in the video, High Hypersonic is the farthest any JJK character has gone
well deku can technically get past infinity since gojo needs to breathe so we know that air gets through so all deku has to do is send a pressurized wave of air to one shot gojo
That's not how adult gojo's infinity works. It has a filter that keeps any harmful thing away from gojo so it'll just not affect him. Although if deku can spam delaware smash enough time quickly enough he might just suffocate gojo.
If you wanna make it unfair for deku, make the whole verse face him with inf cursed energy and all a their peak, all deku would need to win is eri, omfg if deku had eri the entire earth would be gone in a matter of seconds, no matter how far deku goes, rewind will always rewind him meaning everyone is cooked
Ok so when he fights gojo he will alter the cash machine to make gojo embarrassed and he will un activate his infinity to eat the charity food and deku will kill him with the knife he used to make his burger
Yuki is prob one of the only people who could Outscale Deku Damage wise due to her virtual mass that allows her to apply the force equal to F= M*A (Calculates Force In Newtons). With mass being able to go all the way up to a black hole. Starting from human size which is about 1.18×10^27 kilograms. Or 590,000 Earths all packed into a human sized vessel. Ofc this is all fiction so who gives a fuc-
Dude u cant bring calculations to anime. I guarantee a detroit smash isn't destroying part of a nation. Hell the whole changing the weather thing isn't even consistent and I doubt the author realized wth it would actually mean. I think the author just thought "what is something cool and at the same time seems impossible for a normal person".
Even without those calcs in the lab shigaraki decayed like at least a cities radius and deku is comparable to shig not to mention they both got stronger following this.
@@Skibster-w9l You can take it seriously but if your trying to power scale than you have to power scale all and everything. If there is a single moment that contradicts this display of power then it is automatically discredited. If u bring real world logic to this then it has to bend to real world logic and science called consistency.
@@Keith_Norman he literally outspeeds the bullet at Faux 100%. He's several thousand times faster than said bullet. Do you think his speed in the vigilante arc is his greatest speed or something?
@@thegreatestoctopus9739 ??? he need faux 100% to surpass that bullet. that clearly without faux 100%, he's SLOWER than the bullet, and that he BARELY outsped the bullet, bullets being a little over mach speed. and while gear shift does speed him up, you really think he went from supersonic to near light speed? The author went out of his way to have sonic booms when deku used gear shift. clearly it's to indicate that with this, deku has surpassed MACH SPEED, not freaking light speed. if deku was throwing around light speed punches shigaraki would've exploded. no, deku would've exploded.
So Deku and MHA actually only come up to Mach speed Levels and thats only with traveling speed. Give me one minute and ill return with the math I did from under another video
Lightspeed is 299,792,458 m/s which when translated to Mach Speed (since that's the speed type we are using) is 874,030. 1-1. Lady Nagant's bullet speed travel time, we're gonna use the shot she took at AFO since that's more impressive. We don't know the exact distance for the shot from the hospital to the battle field but we can assume it was around 300kms, since we don't now the actual time the bullet was shot (which is important for determining bullet travel speed) we'll say it traveled 300kms in 1 second which clocks the bullets speed at 1,080,000 kh/h, when we convert that to travel distance speed at Mach 874.. So as we now see her bullets (not her) top speed is about 0.0010006922 the speed of light. which while fast is no where near actual light speed. But this is only her bullets. 1-2. Given that all of her shots have been made from far distances away from her targets we can't really calculate what the reaction speed would be needed to dodge at closer shot. But if we we're to guess unless the target has a precognition quirk then they wouldn't be able to react in time to dodge the shot. 2-1.As I (and many others) have stated never use Aoyama's Navel Laser as a means of a light speed attack since people who we know for a fact aren't light speed aka people like Mineta can dodge it, so unless you want to give Mineta the FTL speed which no joke would put him on par with people like the Flash, Superman, Goku, Whis, and many other character with proven feats than you might want to re think that. This second part is about Jirou blocking the electro waves 2-2. As you have just also stated the MHA characters were barely able to dodge or could only block the Impure Light , which was probably thanks to the visual indicators from AFO's attacks. If you forgot when ever he sent out a light/sound based attack there was always a black spark before he attacked which trained hero's would catch onto. How does Jirou's sound waves help the argument? Sound waves are completely different from Radio waves 2-3. While Radio Waves are a type of electromagnetic wave which can travel through a vacuum (empty space, and I mean like Space) without a medium (a starting point/source), Sound Waves are a type of mechanical wave aren't able to this and NEED a medium. For example while AFO radio wave quirk would work even in outer space, Jirous's wouldn't. This is because electromagnetic waves DON'T need air, while sound waves DO need air. BUT radio waves can make sound which Jirou is able make a loud enough counter noise to halt it.
I'll also post the match ups I did for JJK vs Deku here: So first off were gonna put Deku as a Grade 2 each quirk is a CT that he can use either by itself or in union, He is Grade 2 due to 4 of his CTs have backfires from overuse Sidenote: In JJK Cursed Energy can be used to amp your stats like durability and attack potency, it doesn't get talked about alot given that its pretty common for any Cursed Energy user.
1. Danger Sens ISN'T like Spidey sense. Here is the stated definition of Danger Sense-This Quirk allows the user to detect any potential threats in the surrounding area, thus giving the user the opportunity to properly react to them quickly. This Quirk takes a large toll on the user's body depending on the threat it senses and Here brief description on Spider Sense- It allows Spider-Man to detect danger before it happens and warns him of it in no time. The greater the danger or how close the danger is increases the tingling sensation. It also helps Spider-Man to navigate when unable to see, hear, or if he's disoriented. While Danger Sense act like an alarm bell, Spidey sense is precognitive in nature. Also sufficiently fast attacks can also prevent the user from being able to properly dodge them, as Izuku was heavily injured by Lady Nagant's bullet despite using Danger Sense. 2. Danger sense can both be overwhelmed as well as lied to shown in chapter 320 by Toga and by the other heros in chapter 422, even if trained 3. End of Series Deku DOESN'T have Danger sense. In the final fight it was stolen by AFO in chapter 411, BUT I'm going to use full power Deku meaning he will have Danger sense, but first I'll show how the fight pan out with out danger sense 4. This is the most important part, in JJK it has been stated that even the everyday civilian has a small trace of CE, they just don't have enough to see or use CT. So unless Deku has HR and specifically the one that gives him Toji or Maki's level of CE than DEs will effect him, but this also means he might not be able to see Cursed Spirits since he would have no CE training. 5. We're using EOS characters, why? Becasue this is where they are at their strongest
First Anyone vs Non Danger Sense Deku- only 3 people are getting taken out with mid diff and thats the Kyoto girls. Non of their CTs are strong enough nor are they quick enough to either casue damage to or sustain damage from Deku. You have to realized Deku before Danger Sense was struggling in the field, our boy was putting in work no doubt but without DS he kinda gets stumped until he uses cowling. Everyone else you'll see in the next part. Second when I find the peson who mark Deku as faster than light I'm slapping them, that one movie was for effects. Deku is clocking in at mach speeds as seen when he breaks the sound barrier with gear shift (which has a cool down or else he will be harmed). And now on to the actual fights
Todo vs Deku- This is actually a win for Todo with a high mid-diff thanks to his higher IQ in both Intelligence and Combat IQ a trait shared by all characters in JJK. Why you ask, it's be Boogie Woogie is broken. Boogie Woogie allows him to swap the places of anything that has a crumb of CE and we've seen ypu can imbue an inanimate object with CE. So does he win? By overloading Danger Sense by rapidly clapping with both real and fake swaps. And sorry folks even Blackchain is no use against Boogie Woogie since its a teleportation CT that Deku can't predict where Todo will be. This allows Todo to attack in any place and amount he wants with no risk. And reaction speed is near S rank another trait shared by the high tiers in JJK. Now for the Tokyo School with a near prefect win rate
@jasonblack2477 I mean with people being able to simulate black holes, cut reality, move on the same level as electromagnetic waves, coceptually freeze cursed energy, modify souls, etc. Its no wonder he couldn't do anything to the top tiers of the verse he simply aint got the kit for it. Not to mention (almost) all the top teirs have RCT i'd be hard pressed to know what deku could do to someone like Mahito
@jasonblack2477 Shigaraki's regen doesnt hold a candle to the likes of, Sukuna, Yuji, Gojo, Hikari's, Yuta's or even shoko's. And given the fact that these people can also tank buildings, meteors, and slashes that adjust to the targets durability. I think your point is falling short. And then there's Mahito which Deku can't even permanently harm due to having next to no soul based powers
Different Tiers Of Jjk Top Tier Scaling. Tier 1-11. Inconsistent Lowballs. Tier 1-3 are low balls that are inconsistent and should only be used to make fights fair. Tier 1: Building Level This is a baseline for jjk top tiers and uses scaling and feats, this line of scaling is very inconsistent and should never be used. Tier 2: Multi City Block Level There are multiple feats such as Jogo destorying multiple city blocks from his Maximum Meteor, and Yuta From Jjk 0 Binding vow love blast, and with ryu destorying multiple buildings with granite blast. This level of scaling is very inconsistent. Tier 3: Town Level This is where it gets more consistent but not consistent enough, 15 Finger Yuji Sukuna managed to destory majority of Shibuya with domain fire arrow combo and depending on how much you scale it that could be a town level feat, and gojo destorying most of Shinjuku with a hollow nuke with depending on how much you scale it, it could be an town level feat. Consistent/Relative Scaling Mid Balls. Tier 4-7 Are the most consistent and reliable jjk top tier scaling tiers and should be the ones used most often. Tier 4: City Level. From the same 15 Finger Yuji Sukuna domain and fire arrow feat, it could be city level from how you scale it. Tier 5: Mountain Level From Domain creation feats, Jogo creating an entire volcano, Dagon creating an island that low ball scales only to mountain level, gojo creating an earthquake, and 15 finger Yuji Sukuna domain and fire arrow combo high ball to potentially mountain level, and during sukuna vs mahoraga it's shown them being able to clear the skies which is mountain level. Tier 6: Island Level. From Dagon domain creation feat could be scaled to island level. And Gojo when made that earthquake was in the subduction zone which means gojo's energy could shift these tectonic plates into account that feat would go to island level, and he did that casually. Tier 7: Country Level From the same gojo feat, that feat could be also scaled to country level, and it's stated that gojo could power the entirety of the USA making him country level from that statement, and also station special grades could solo nations. Inconsistent High Balls. Tiers 8-_ Are high balls that are inconsistent and should only be used to make fights fair. Tier 8: Multi Continental level. This also uses the Gojo powering the USA statement, where if gojo has the output and curse energy amount to power the entirety of the USA and since Yuta has higher curse energy amount Yuta should scale above this, but since gojo scales above him, gojo would scale above that which would be Multi Continental level. Tier 9: Planetary From Yuki creating and restricting a black hole with the help of tengen would equal to a small planetary level feat, and kenjaku being able to tank the black hole temporarily before using his anti gravity technique. Extreme Unreliable High Balls. Tiers 10-11 are EXTREME HIGH BALLS and shouldn't be used ever unless necessary. Tier 10: Multi Star Level. From Dagon domain creation feat, seemingly able to create a star with his domain, and top tiers should up scale this into multi Star level, very inconsistent. Tier 11: Universal This comes from Yoruzu being able to create a perfect sphere which has infinite ap, and sukuna being able to develop a world slash which has spatial or dimensional ap, you should NEVER use this.
@@konoheisenbergda I was giving some Debunks about "Soul Protection" from Vestiges,gave some scaling for JJK speed using Kenjaku and Yuta,and gave a little reminder to look more in depth when researching Becauze yes,Electromagnetic waves move at light speed only in vacuum...but they still move around 98% light speed not in vacuum.
@@eliasflawless1698 could I have those debunks and yeah while my point on electromagnetic waves being LS in a vacuum is sorta weak, Sukuna and Kashimo still got hit by lightning so I consider it as some pseudo electromagnetic wave tbh
Mahoraga literally can’t die unless every single fucking molecule of him is completely destroyed, and he did adapt in the sukuna fight, mahoraga can likely solo their verse though, with some characters that likely could kill him, but that’s not many, (shiggy doesn’t have the ability to do this, due to the fact that shiggy’s quirk destroys stuff over time instead of at once.)
1. Diabolical Mahoraga upscale, bro died to the purple Sukuna tanked twice. 2. Mahoraga adapting to slashes is the only reason Sukuna didn't evicerate him with normal slashes. It was never stated Mahoraga had to be atomized. Narrator said Sukuna could've killed him with cleave if he hadn't already adapted to slashes. 3. Mahoraga isn't made of molecules regardless. It's a shikigami. 4. Shiggy's quirk erased things "over time" at speeds near if not above the speed of sound. He absolutely annihilates Mahoraga, he has like 12 quirks we've seen that could've one shot Mahoraga on their own. 5. Yuji violates Mahoraga. 6. So does Ryu. 7. So does Mina Ashido.
@@prez.cookie980 bro the glazing on this man is absolutely disgusting. 1. The purple was a literally nuke of a purple, it had no target, no radius specified, and it wasn’t a premade purple and was a fresh one, and sukuna didn’t die to it because mahoraga tanked it for him, which atomized him, that’s different than the two other purples sukuna tanked 2 mahoraga DOES have to be atomized, as seen in the blueray (and possibly normal) mahoraga was nothing but pure blood on the wall, and he instantly regenerated 3. It is made of molecules, for something to not be made of molecules it has to not be matter, but anti matter, in which case mahoraga and any other shikigami would literally nuke the world by being summoned 4. Proof? We see many times that people who aren’t even that much faster than a care be able to outrun it, why wouldn’t a mahoraga who can regenerate from a bloodstain be able to regenerate before he is fully destroyed, while adapting to it, and end up nullifying it? And the 12 other quirks shiggy can one shot mahoraga with? I admit, you may have me there since I don’t know what these ones are that your talking about 5. No he doesn’t, yuji has absolutely no way to destroy mahoraga, he has no proper technique, we know nothing about his domain, and at best he could tire mahoraga out for a second 6. I don’t know who ryu is so probably 7. Mina’s acid can’t instantly (or very quickly for that matter) dissolve mahoraga, she is actually getting slammed
The thing he said about shigaraki 12 other quirks won't work because mahoraga can just adapt to the concept of quirks but this would only work if the master i.e sukuna orders mahoraga to do so@@Voided01
He does not beat sukuna 100% of the time, however he is capable of killing sukuna. If sukuna pops a domain, deku dies. If deku does a 100% smash on sukuna, sukuna dies. Simple as that, they both are capable of killing eachother so the question is just who goes all out first.
I don't like MHA , but i can't deny that Deku could be at grade 1 or special grade level He actually really strong , but still i doubt he can beat Sukuna or Gojo
At least watch a few clips of the fighting scenes with Deku even if you don't like it. Deku is way above special grade. He has near FTL and multi continental feats because one for all is crazy strong. Respectfully, he speedblitzes Sukuna and kills him immediately. But Gojo? It's a tie for me because Gojo doesn't have the firepower to really hurt Deku, but deku can't get past infinity.
@Junoo9311 Maybe some version of Sukuna but not Sukuna at full Power with acces of all of his binding vow(even if he Will win High diff) Since both Sukuna and Deku (with Gear shift) are Mak 5/ HyperSonic
@Junoo9311 for Gojo instead, he Just Need to open his domain I know now you Will Say it's an asspull, but hinestly i don't see Deku tanking infinite information Also Deku can't Tank an Hollow purple! Hollow purple can negate almost any durability and straight up disintegrate the target to 0 (unless the target it's completely indestructible like Sukuna's finger)
@@AsuraKish8n665 deku with gear shift is mach 5??? bro why don't you try reading mha. deku with gear shift is easily ftl if not faster, simply because of this: multiple characters in mha such as shigi easily reacts to lasers with no difficulty at all, and as we all know deku biltz a much stronger shigi. so yeah deku is not mach 5, stop lowballing him
@bicyclepizzadelivery ftl??? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Seriously? Stop being a clown 🤡 dude! In the manga/anime they clearly said that Deku break the sound barrier, but he isn't faster than Light! Get lost i despise dumb people like you
@@mrsketchysketch680 nvm it’s in their first fight after nanami enters overtime he says he could either fight until mahitos runs out of ce which he could then kill him but that’s unrealistic or just run
Also sukuna would also most likely win as well(not as easy as gojos win) cause any hits sukuna takes can be healed with rct and easier at that(because he is a curse) and all it takes is one domain expansion that has a 200 meter radius to complete wash deku out
Ok so don't come to kill me mha fans but I did some calculations... So, the blackflash attack that sukuna got hit by should be around 1212470383143440000000000 this much force of Tnt cause I calculate since gojo's ap should be island level sealing from Dagons domain and the base energy required to pull of a island level is 4300000000 this much force of tnt and blackflash is a 2.5 Amp so tye number comes to 1212470383143440000000000 this and I have a feeling dekus punches aren't doing much with sukunas RCT In conclusion, duku dies to 1 domain😂
@@ashimbeast4732 just checked on the AP tier list… you got this to planetary…? 2.5 x island level tbh wouldn’t even come close to planetary, at most large island.
@@ashimbeast4732 bro, no, firstly I explained that Dagon’s Domain isn’t an acceptable feat and that even if it was, it’d reach just mountain level. But okay, even if it was island level, at 4.3 gigatons of tnt, multiplying that by 2.5 would give 10.75 gigatons of tnt, still island level…
@@konoheisenbergda my guy, I think you frogot but both the anime and manga said that it was power of 2.5 and multiplying of 2.5. So, for you math failure. It is a exponent of 2.5 and not a multiplication of 2.5.
@@ashimbeast4732 sheesh, ait, still even if you multiply 2.5 with 2.5 and 4.3 gigatons, you’re still gonna get 6.25 x 4.3, which would make 26 gigatons, Deku still claps Sukuna regardless
"characters that are relativistic ot ftl are technically shifting reality" Oh my god that actually made me mad and click off the video😂 I swear mha fans are some of the most annoying people fandom and power scaling. Not talking about you. I know not many people know this but when GoJo was released he caused an earthquake all over Japan, he could kill every person in Japan, his power is a threat to countries and the fact that JoJo's power has literally been stated to be able to power America for a year which would make him higher than country and and by that extension also yuta and sukuna. Also reacting to Hollow purple makes them FTL considering its added Mass or imaginary Mass
What FTL when a literal plant can dodge it. Sukuna couldn't even catch up to red in ch 235 and needed to use piercing because of how far he is. There's nothing in JJK that has FTL feat.
Deku really solos all of JJK, truly our Hero Academia
Deku does actually have a way to kill Gojo. As we see in the Sukuna vs Gojo fight that Gojo can be interacted with even with infinity on because when Sukuna throws a slash at Gojo the shockwave from the slash is able to interact with his hair so the only thing Deku has to do is create a strong enough shockwave in order to kill Gojo and this may not come as a surprise but he most definitely can. As during Shiggy and Deku’s fight they both are able to create island level shockwavesi. So if Deku is able to generate strong enough shockwaves which should be easy with the help of his gauntlets he could potentially win. But this is just a potential way Deku could kill Gojo so take what I say with a grain of salt.
Also there are other characters in MHA capable of putting JJK in a pack one of them being Shiggy and I do think he has more and better ways of putting them down especially Gojo as he has quirks like Radio Wave which can potentially bypass infinity and Air Canon allowing him to generate shockwaves that can destroy mountains. But with the Deku potentially bypassing infinity argument this is something that you should take with a grain of salt.
The reason the shockwave from sukuna’s slash got through was simply due to the fact that it wouldn’t harm him, and only final fight shiggy would be able to really do much, but what I see is people constantly compare them via battle to the death, but what if we just view it as if they were put in the verse? Well simple, he would try to get rid of sukuna as fast as possible, and shit y’know?
gear shift actually is stronger then infinity since gear shift shifts reality a little, probably getting through infinity for a split second so yeah only gojo would give Deku a problem, also stronger hax will always be better then infinity
So this guy dosnt know how infinity works anything gojo perceives as a threat his technique will create infinite space between the object or person the only reason sukunas CT can go through it is because gojo can't sense nor see it he can sense and see deku so before deku even touches him infinite space would be created and I think its safe to say infinite void solos deku it took normal humans from gojos 0.2 second domain expansion 2-3 months now while he's in there he cant do anything and if it was a full domain and not 0.2 he would be turned into a vegetable
@@frostydog1191 then again infinity is just simple space, which is why sukuna's slash got through, attacking said space youc an bypass infinity, and like I said, gear shift shifts reality a little, I didn't say he bypasses it completely but can get through for a split second, but yeah a domain would probably cook bro, but knowing deku he wouldn't get to close to be in gojo's range since Deku has no information on limitless, needing him to be cautious, but yeah remove infinity and Gojo is cooked by basically every person in fiction, with or without reality shifting abilities
@@frostydog1191 sonic solos btw
@@Ezraishere4ulol archie* sonic
Yeah no dawg not just Gojo but deku would run through most of the verse
Deku wins with his gear shift that's all there is to it, Gear shift can speed up or slow down little object and with ofa it recieved a huge boost : he can now do it at cellular level which means that he can slow poeple down like he does for himself + Gear shift ignores inertia so if it is combined with fa jin and ofa it breaks the very laws of physiques, and well the infinity of gojo work with physiques like you are explaining at 14:05
So deku just walk on gojo
Bonus domain expansion wouldn't work for 3 reasons
1 deku would see it coming with danger sense so he would prevent gojo from doing it
2 again deku see it coming so he step back from it and with his speed with Gear shift he is easely away in 0.5 seconds top
3 even if he get caught in the domain the previous ofa users would protect him like they've done it in Season 2 (vs shinso), 6(to prevent shigaraki of getting ofa) , and the manga (same reason as for s6)
So there deku wins against gojo
And also there is no pizza Guy here only the greatest hero of his verse, still an active hero and a great teacher at one of the most prestigious hero school
Put some respect on him
Dekus punch literally changed the weather in a whole separate country. The jjk verse is cooked
*continent
The start of the video is all u need.
Deku solos
Bro atleast people actual explain how strong deku is instead of just saying he's weak
@@GamingJC-x1f Manga prime deku is currently Multi continental.
But at his very best alot of mha manga powerscalers are aguring to say that he is planetary.
And thats the same for Shigaraki.
Personally i definitely dont think that at all
Deku and shigaraki are both at multi continental. No where near planetary.
Theres only 2 characters in mha that are that level
The rest are street-country level
Deku can change the weather with just a punch.
He is comparable to prime all might who used to basically have the power to nuke cities back in the day.
Also weakened all might in season 1 took 300 punches to beat the usj nomu and he punched him out the stratosphere (proven by all mights ultimate in MHOJ2). But he said himself that in his prime it would’ve took 5 punches to beat him. That is how massive the power difference is between Weakened all might and prime all might. And deku has already said back in his dark deku arc that he is way more powerful than all might in his prime. And deku is strong at that point but NOT as strong as he was in his prime manga form.
Dekus last punch was so powerful it was felt all the way in America.
Which instantly makes it a multi continental feat.
He can go hand to hand with shigaraki
Someone who has literally took multiple nukes the face like nothing and survived.
He has decayed cities in just seconds. And shigarakis Presence alone made a Volcanic Eruption.
He also went against the number 1 American hero which is Star and Stripes.
She has the power to touch anything and say its name and she can change the law of it
So basically she can touch the air and be like “All Air infront of me is GONE”
It would indeed begone and she almost killed shigaraki that way but he was way too strong and survived it.
Deku in the 2nd movie showed a country level feat as well.
Deku can move so fast that he breaks the laws of physics. There is literally a panel in the manga that says that.
Right now Deku Multi-continental and is Mftl+
Some of his quirks: Ofa+Gearshift+Fa jinn are really broken quirks that give deku this kind of speed
For example for fa jinn
If deku keep repeating tons of movements he can store the kinetic energy and use it whenever he wants and it will let out a instant burst of speed and power. So basically if deku wanted to he could store up fa jinn for like a year and then use it and he would probably evaporate himself because of how fast he would go.
Then u also have shigaraki who is a bioengineered superhuman with many quirks, super regen and just really broken abilitys who can decay cities in seconds, erupt a volcano with his mere presence and even decay space and time properties.
Whole mha verse is planetary but the strongest characters are around country-multi continental.
There are some very powerful characters in mha.
Too bad it gets hated on so much that people just assume that it has a weak verse.
In the newest movie trailers they literally show cracks in the sky and shit as if it was doctor strange or smt
Characters literally having dimensional breaking abilities.
Yeah for infinity.
U can get past infinity with good enough speed or inverted spear of heaven.
The lightspeed feats in mha have always been true.
Aoyamas lasers have been stated many times to be light and if his lasers werent light. Then they wouldnt be able to light up dark areas or reflect of toru (which torus whole power is literally to reflect light)
Theres also most likely a combination of quirks that all for one and shigaraki can do to get past infinity
Shigaraki and deku keep evolving.
Deku can warp reality so that could get him through. Plus deku has fought against someone that has a similar power to gojos infinity.
Obviously they are not the same but they still work the same.
Flect turn from the 3rd mha movie deku fought against him.
His quirk is reflect so basically anything he comes in contact with close to his body it just reflects. And his quirk is a power that is ALWAYS ACTIVE so he cant turn it off
His power is so broken that he couldnt even kill himself. His family couldnt even touch him.
Deku managed to get past with plot armour and big punches.
Yeah it doesnt work the same as infinity but it still gives deku the experience of fighting someone he cant touch.
Star and stripes could get past gojo its like a 50/50 her power is called new order. It allows her to touch something, say the name of it and add a rule to it.
She was so broken that they killed her off really quickly.
So basically she can be like *touches air*
Then she says “Air, the air infront of me will disappear” and basically that would happen.
Which would remove any sort of air including any oxygen. She even created a giant susanoo of herself.
She could get past infinity. But yeah.
Jjk compared to mha is like darth vader against children.
Jjk is city level at best and mha is multi continental-planetary.
Jjk characters are nothing more than regular humans compared to mha characters
Also quirks are not magic. They are a physical thing.
And characters in mha with quirks, they are automatically already much more durable and stronger than regular humans
For example.
Shoto todoroki.
He has no quirks that help him be more durable or regen or help him be built stronger in anyway.
But he can survive get thrown really fucking hard through a building and barely be hurt by it.
Even if u dont have a quirk that focuses on your durability
Your still naturally really durable if u are born with a quirk.
Another example is lemilion.
His quirk allows him to phase through shit like obito.
Or like a ghost.
And somehow he can punch really fucking hard that a giant monster goes flying.
Mha characters with quirks are just naturally really strong and durable.
@@YurokiHakugaisha I think people say shigaraki is planet level due too decay amongst other quirks cause decay awakened is Hella strong destroying any an everything so i think that's why they say he's planetary level
I've seen a couple of vids on deku vs the jjk verse and this comment section seems to be the one in the most denial. There are two things to keep in mind:
1. The jjk verse is a lot weaker than you think. The only characters within jjk that generally even have a chance against anyone outside their own verse is of course, Gojo, sukuna nad mahoraga.
2. Deku is a lot STRONGER than you think. A lot of the misinformation with Deku's power comes from ppl who haven't seen the show, did not pay attention or are straight haters.
Aside from Gojo, sukuna nad mahoraga, Deku can easily beat any other character. Maybe a little bit of struggle here and there but Deku is simply that strong.
Alr guys lemme tell you how Deku completely one shots Gojo.
First things first, Gearshift is the only reason why Deku wins and for a good reason.
As stated in the manga and known by many, Gearshift ignores inertia or "Newton's first law of motion".
This law basically states that an object at rest will stay at rest unless a force is applied. An object in motion will stay in motion unless a forces is slowing it down or stops it. This law also works on a sub-atomic level.
Deku essentially bypasses all that and therefore also breaking one of the fundemental laws of reality. This means Deku can go from 0 to 100% in an instant.
Now for the consequences, if an object ignores inertia (which is also known to hold together the universe) that object would rip apart at a sub-atomic level. However, that is not what we see happening so we can assume the objects or beings Deku uses gearshift on also have some sort of resistance to this. An object which bypasses Inertia would also be moving and stopping randomly and be incredibly unstable. The only reason why Deku doesn't go flying everywhere is that he choses which direction to go in by using some sort of force like a push or jump or even a punch in the air which would work because when one is ignoring inertia they aren't affected by external forces like gravity or air resistance.
Now comes the crazy part, if he does infact ignore Inertia and completely bypasses it while being uneffected by other forces, this would mean he would not only accelerate instantly but also infinitely. He would therefore accelerate to the universes speed limit which would be light speed.
In addition to this, Deku isn't a particle like light he is a living being, he has a defined mass which would further break reality and if he used fajin to go overdrive he'd already be 5-10 times faster than light and since he breaks the universes speed limit which is light, the next logical step would be to aim for infinite speed which is the fastest speed at which an object can theoretically move.
And because deku infinitely accelerates, he wouldn't stop at light speed but continue to accelerate beyond it.
Alr enough yappin and i also stole this from D.bunk_ go check the guy out. Bro is better at explaining.
d bunk scales arent rly good and as long as deku has mass and shape infintiy stops it
@@tenshadowsnotbumgumiyeah no you can't just Say infinity stops it
Infinity just slows him down
And since his speed is infinite
Infinity doesn't work
@@indiangamerbg8346 his speed isn't infinite
@@tenshadowsnotbumgumi this guy literally explained why
He can technically do that
Not my fault ya can't read ma g
@@indiangamerbg8346 the thing is that he is wrong bro
Midoriya one-shoting half of JJK's cast is really inevitable. I would say that only Gojo, mahito, and maybe the "gamble as a DE" have a chance. Arguing that he can't see curses is also kinda bullshit because it works of negative emotions, and I think being used as a punching bag for 10y and getting told to kill himself would do the trick.
Mahito is literally overhaul all over again, but on higher difficulty, and Gamble guy needs some extreme luck
Gojo is kinda hard to measure, but people often forget that black has never mass nor air resistant, which would allow it to pass through infinity. As for Gearshift and far Jin, I like to think it canceled each other out. Just imagine a random teen trying to square up with you and punching you in the face with normal force despite infinity
since deku can ignore inertia with fa jin and gearshift, he can outrun a blue, hollow purple and bypass gojo's infinity (everybody else in jjk gets cooked)
Before Deku got his power he picked up a 550 all might
Yep all of us are cooked by quirkless Deku after his training, but before eating that piece of hair.
I already knew Deku could take out the majority of the JJK verse with an exception of Gojo and an uncertainty of Sukuna. Better be careful about how you treat fast food workers from now on. 😳
Guarantee on Sukuna getting cooked actually
@@thedarknessinthelight9824yeah sukuna is fucked because no in jjk has the durability to tank any of dekus serious punches. Only thing saving people is hacks
Well, Deku can easily blitz jjk vers, including Gojo, Yuki, Mahito and so on ( mha scaling is far higher then people might think ). Ability to warp laws of Reality ( which includes time, space, physics and so on ) already allows to pass though Infinity and kill Gojo in one punch ( Domain Amplification was a space warping and it was enough to ignore Infinity, so Deku can do the same, you actually don't give any reason why it can't work🤷♂️. Especially when in manga was shown how space warp ). And Deku can easily produce enough power to fully destroy Mahoraga in one punch ( he actually turn AFO into nothing at the end of the manga by just a strong punch and even that version of AFO is already way more powerful then anyone in jjk, while Deku was weakened, so Mahoraga will instantly die ). Deku will kill Yuki before she can do something. Deku show ability to Damage souls and consepts as even Weakened AFO was able to fully destroy Vestiges World, which is Metaphysical Space, which could scale him to 5D, the same for Deku, and AFO was able to damage Deku's soul and even devour vestiges/souks, “the spiritual or immaterial part of a human being or animal, regarded as immortal”, this accurately fits the vestiges because not only do they resemble the humans and have willpower, Deku states that the long-dead OFA predecessors are alive within the vestige world. Deku and Shigaraki both have resistance to Soul manipulation and both can damage souls. Deku was able to damage Black Ball, which exist around Shigaraki soul and was representation of his feelings, which easily scale Deku to 4D, as he can punch something which is made of feelings and don't exist in a physical realm or reality itself ), so Deku can easily kill Mahito. Deku is far more powerful then everyone in jjk, which allows him to blitz the entire vers ( even Deku 5% is enough for that when it comes to speed, strenth and durability ). Gearshift allows to use Gears, base Gear is Deku's own speed, but from Second Gear to Top Gear Deku increase his power and speed at least two times with every Gear. Also, Deku can combine that ability with Fa Jin, which gives him ×5 boost ( reffering to Quintuple Smash ). Plus, all Quirks combin give Deku a boost in power, at least ×2,26, as he turn his 45% into equivalent of 120% ( which we call as "Full Power Deku 45%" ). For AP, in MHA Team up Mission Weakened Base Nine show Small Planet level feat by creating an incredibly huge storm so fast that Deku and Bakugo can't even see it ( the same Deku and Bakugo who easily react at lightspeed attacks ), which is KE: 5.2489637927902E+30 Joules or Small Planet level, and that was only Weakened Base Nine, while Full power Nine is far higher then that and Nine is still only on Weakened AFO level. Or about Uraraka feat, Uraraka's feat with with lifting Toga's clones is way more impressive then you could think at the beginning, Uraraka scale to KE:2.98×10^34 Joules or 7.13 Yottatons (calculing number of clones, their mass and how fast Uraraka threw them up they can't even recognize it, take in mind that mha characters can easily dodge lightspeed attacks like Aoyama’s navel lazer, at the beginning of the series. as 1 ton of TNT is approximately 4.18×10^9 joules, then 2.98×10^34 Joules / 4.18×10^9 per ton = 7.13 × 10^24 tons, 1 yottaton (Yt) is 10^24 tons of TNT ), so Uraraka's feat is actually 7.13 Yottatons of TNT ( wich Large Planet level ). So Uraraka is already far more powerful then jjk vers. Now, for Deku and Shigaraki. Firstly, we need to know Weakened AFO/All Might AP ( both of them are comparable to each other ), Endeavor show that he is comparable to Weakened AFO. Endeavor is way more powerful then Uraraka ( I think it's quite obvious even without explanation ), Endeavor is in a whole different league compared to Uraraka, he can be easily 4-10 times stronger then Uraraka ( even in MHA Databook was stated that Uraraka power is 4/6, whike Endeavor is 6/6 ), I will call "4 times stronger" version as "V1" and "10 times stronger" version as "V2". So, that mean Endeavor scale to V1 = 28.52 Yottatons of TNT or V2 = 71.3 Yottatons of TNT ( Large Planet level ), the same power for Weakened AFO and All Might, as Endeavor is comparable to them. For Prime All Might/AFO, was stated that Prime All Might is at least 60 times stronger then his Weakened version, which mean Prime All Might/AFO are V1 = 1711.2 Yottatons of TNT and V2 = 4278 Yottatons of TNT ( Dwarf Star level ). Now, for Young AFO, was stated that he is getting stronger since he getting younger, in his Prime time AFO was 140-160 years old, while his Young Form look on 30 years, that mean AFO get 2-10 times stronger at bare minimum ( we can also take each year s power multiplier, 160/30=5.3 times stronger. So let's take "×5.3" as a mid ball and "×10" as a high ball ). So, Young AFO scale to: V1: 9096.3 ( mid ball ) - 17112 Yottatons of TNT ( high ball. Both of this results are already Star level ) and V2: 22673.4 Yottatons of TNT ( mid ball ) - 42780 Yottatons of TNT ( high ball. Which is Large Star level ). Now, finally we get to Shigaraki, and it's hard to say is he stronger then Young AFO or not, as for both of them was statedd that they are surpass Prime All Might, but we can say that Apex Shigaraki could be stronger then Young AFO, as Shigaraki in his standard form already surpass Prime All Might and Apex Form is the result of his Power Adaptation ( plus, in ch 410 Shigaraki said by himself that he is getting stronger and start adaptation to Deku's speed ), so we can scale Prime Shigaraki to be 2 times stronger then Young AFO, which scale Shigaraki to: V1: 18192.6 Yottatons of TNT ( mid ball ) - 34224 Yottatons of TNT ( high ball ) and V2: 45346.8 Yottatons of TNT ( mid ball ) - 85560 Yottatons of TNT ( high ball ). Now for Deku, Deku 45% by using Fa Jin and Blackwhip on his muscles can already reach Prime All Might level. Let's talk about Gearshift, this power allows Deku to use Transmission and Overdrive, let's talk about two different versions on how we can multiple Deku's power with them, first version: Deku get "120%" with Gears, which is ×2,26 to his power + Overdrive, which give ×5, and after Quintuple Smash Deku get a refill of the Fa Jin, which allows him to use new Overdrive Blast ( which was stronger then first version with Quintuple Smash, as this Blast Overdrive already damage Shigaraki way harder then Quintuple Smash ), which gives Deku next boost of power, ×2 at bare minimum. Now, for Deku scale ( I will take Shigaraki 85560 Yottatons of TNT as an example ): 4278×2,67×5=57111.3 and with stronger Overdrive Blast, 57111.3 × 2 = 144222.6 Yottatons of TNT ( its already close to Solar System level damage. It's also quite consistent, as this attack was way stronger then Shigaraki's power and actually damage him ). And for another Deku Gearshift scale, we can take every Gear ( from Low to Top ) as power up, which mean that every Gear gives Deku at least "×2" boost, and with such scale: 4278×2×2×2×2×5 = 342240 Yottatons of TNT, and 342240 × 2 = 684480 Yottatons of TNT ( Solar System level ). And it's not even peak scale, as even Endeavor can be calculated to Large Star level, as with his power he can produce flames with hit power in 1.0516×10^31 watts, which is far higher then every Star in Universe, and even Weakened AFO stay alive after that, while Prime AFO is far more powerful then Endeavor, So Deku and Shigaraki are both easily Large Star level and Solar Systen level one way or another. Now for speed, calculating Bakugo's feat from ch 359, Human eyev = 0.022 meters, distance between Bakugo and Shigaraki 0,098 meters, distance traveled by explosion was 10685.982 meters, Tower of the UA is 1450.876 meters, we already know that both bakugo and Shigaraki can easily react at ftl+ characters and mftl+ characters, for low ball version let's take 3×10^10 meters per second perception speed or ×10 ftl, then the whole Bakugo speed calculation is V = 10685.982 × 3×10^10 meters per second/0,098 = 3.27×10^15 meters per second, which is 1.09×10^7 (or about 10.9 million) times faster than the speed of light. Bakugo is comparable to Endeavor/Weakened All Might, then Prime AFO/All Might 10.9 × 60 = ×654 millions ftl, Young AFO scale to: 654×5.3 = ×3.46 billions ftl - 654×10=6.54 billions ftl. And for Prime Shigaraki: ×6.92 billions ftl - ×13.08 billions ftl ( just remind you that it's actually a lowball scale ). About Deku, it's several reasons why Deku is Infinite Speed by using Gearshift, but before that, I would say that with regular Gearshift boosts Deku is already faster then Shigaraki, 654×2.67×5×2= 17.4 billions ftl or 654×2×2×2×2×5×2 = 104 billions ftl ( or we can just say that Deku is 10 times faster then Shigaraki, as he move faster then Shigaraki can see, which is ×130.8 billions ftl ), but all of that is actually a lowball versions, as Gearshift gives Deku Infinite Speed for sure, as Gearshift allows to ignore inertia ( Transmission ) which gives Deku ability to reach max possible speed, because of instant and infinite acceleration from ignoring inertia ( also Deku can slow down his opponent, as he did with Shigaraki. Deku also show ability to instaly stop and accelerate to max speed instantly ), and with ability to Warp Laws of governing reality ( mean warp time, space, physics, consepts and so on, including Universal speed limit), which mean that Deku has no limit in speed and with instant and infinite acceleration he can instantly reach Infinite Speed ( also, proof for that is that sound is literally delayed and it's not just Sonic Boom, as you still can see how object moving when he broke sound barrier, while Deku is just dissappear and only then sound appeared, which mean that space itself can't react at Deku's moves, which prove that Deku is Infinite Speed) So yeah, Deku easily blitz jjk vers
I ain't reading all that
@PurpledBlade9987 you are welcome.
This was the most unnecessarily long comment I've ever seen, and I now understand why people fucking hate powerscalers.
@@Gray_Does_Genocide I don't care hate you or not🤷♂️
Why are you on a yap sesh bro holy christ
The judge domain opens while hanna and yuta are waiting for them to break out for the Jacob’s latter
Yea Gojo infinity is the only thing in that verse, that was some pretty OP power writing on JJK’s part
and mahito's idle transfiguration.
And Comedian as well
Ok listen to me if gojo turns of the infinity the verse ain't doing shit
Deku outlast gojo and will waste out his cursed energy and when infinity deactivates, oh boy, gojo's cooked, We've already seen deku last multiple weeks without proper sleeping and eating, we haven't seen gojo last that long
His infinity does not deactivate lil bro
@@anthonysisam2159 hidden inventory arc, that ring a bell? "lil bro"
@@Chaos-X-editzthat was before his awakening lil bro
@@MorrisAnthony-bg5nk it can still deactivate either way, especially since we see gojo deactivate it when he touches jogo.... oh god that just gave me Nightmares, "cmon now you'll make me shy" gojo's zesty ah 😭
He willingly turned that shit off @@Chaos-X-editz
Many jjk fans using personal concept and its funny , they saying that deku can't see mahito because he is curse lol 😂
Thats a fact? in jjk normole humans cant see curses like the bakery girl nanami talked to couldnt see the curse on her.
@@Dishwasherinwaterit's true though but in death battle it's called "personal concept"
Bust a country?
Yuta busting his hand with that Detroit smash
Also we seem to forget HOW FREAKISHLY SMART DEKU IS FOR A 16 YEAR OLD
@@TagakiHizakiwe also misinterpret his high intelligence for high battle IQ because at the end of the day he just relies on punching harder no matter if he knows the enemy powers or not
@@Keith_NormanI guess you just didn't read his fight with Shigaraki or Nagant, or Gentle, or Overhaul... I think you get the point
@@Keith_Norman 4 words buddy
Wake
Up
To
REALITY
If you watch his fight against Shigaraki in the manga, you’ll know what I mean by Freakishly smart
@@TagakiHizaki you do know Yuta has reverse curse techniques so he can basically just keep healing ihis hands from the Detroit smash, see into the future, literally bend space, or just tell him to die. Sorry sir Deku really is useless
Izuku is going to have field day as he has ability that can force it's way through Infinity and he well outscales everyone there.
There are only three attacks that are a threat two of which are suicide attacks being Black Hole and Perfect Sphere, and Sukuna's World Cutting Slash but all of the, are relatively easy to dodge.
Nah
@@Henry-sg6iv Yeah Gearshift in simplest words makes it so no amount of opposing force is going to stop Izuku thus Infinity won't be a wall that can't be broken through. Essentially think of Domain Amplification which works but much better
@@KiraiKatsujiYES EXACTLY I TRIED TO TELL PEOPLE THIS BUT THEY DONT EVEN LISTEN TO
@@DrippySocks All fandoms love to glaze and i glaze all of them
All that just to peak in highschool😭 they did this mf dirty
Iron deku would actaully be stronger then OFA deku
90% of shonen peak in highschool age ranges so thats not as crazy as u think
Wait but if we’re using verse equalization and Deku has CE, then wouldn’t he be able to bypass infinity by using the air shot he can send out his fingers? It would be like Sukunas WCS right?
Sukuna isn't cutting air with his attack, he's cutting the "world" the space itself. Air shots well air
@@ghitaianis9022 Yeah I know he’s not cutting air he’s cutting space, so how come Deku wouldn’t be able to break through infinity/space as well. Like I said we are using verse equalization so the Air shots would be like Sukunas slashes in a way due to the fact that he has CE now.
@@itzlight301 well the normal slashes cut through air and they didn't work and even if deku has CE like you can see in the manga you need a technique that has the right hacks to allow you to bypass infinity just CE doesn't allow any technique to bypass infinity. Also deku having CE will be like how yuji does is only used to enhance the attack since yuji, and deku too, don't have a technique.
So, doing the calculations if Gojo doesn't block light Deku will eventually win
no. air shot is pushing air. it's basically high pressure wind. infinity can stop wind. only attacks that affect space itself can bypass limitless
Bro I’m not trying to be annoying or eccuse of anything just incase you didn’t know DE can only target people with CE
if we treat quirks like cursed techniques and the vestiges protecting deku from the quirk stealing like the disabling of quirks from angel, isoh, and the black rope, toji is COOKED but, if he can land a hit with the soul split katana deku would easily be sliced due to the durability negating.
Edit: You could also treat the protection as defense from higeruma's domain
Just put the fries in the bag, Deku
7:46 Light also only travels at the speed of light in a vacuum. Light IS an electromagnetic wave.
Deku tries to punch everyone but it does no damage and makes a squeaky toy sound. Takaba laughing his ass off.
@@Rawp0st lol fr
Well that can be an argument against 99.99% of characters
Lol Takaba won't even be able to perceive Deku
@@thegreatestoctopus9739 it's not like Deku is moving at FTL every second of his life lol. And Takaba doesn't have to perceive him anyways. The only 3 big weakness of Takaba is if you out joke him, ruin his mental state, and the fact that he doesn't kill.
@@Rawp0st he kinda those need to perceive him. If he doesn't even process the fact that Deku is there, he wouldn't be able to think of something funny. Plus I'm assuming Deku already has OFA active
I get mad for some reason when jjk loses but i feel even worse when someone says deku loses to anyone that he does best
We can discuss this if you want, I’m down give a proper explanation (Also every character that’s FTL does not warp physics that’s appealing to reality; heak most don’t even accept those theory of relativity Einstein physics because it would mean that anything moving faster than light would require infinite work or energy)
@@cocopebbles3841 exactly, most don’t take that into account because it would make powerscaling a tough challenge, so they just set that aside and ignore it. And to not get shred apart while going at light speed is kinda warping physics as you need to have veeeery little to no mass like light.
But elaborate on what you mean by discuss? If you want, you can drop your discord, but I got school rn, so I’ll only be able to talk later bro
@@konoheisenbergda its also why i said its an appeal to reality
@@konoheisenbergda The first message didn't send but I said basically You limiting fiction not only to a set of real physics rather than the mesh it tends to have as well as specifically to the Theory of Relativity rather than the plethora of other different scientific theorems and vastly accepted studies that not only contradict the theory of relativity but also restructure or retcon it. Like light in present day has a calculable speed of 299 792 458 m / s unlike in early ein.
Just put the fries in the bag lil bro
Just cope with the fax, JJK (except u gojo)
so cringe
Takaba: it's funny how I made this guy forget that I could hold off this hero kid long enough for Ui Ui to teleport Maki with Soul Split into the kid's heart, killing him.
He loses badly if it's a 1vsAll scenario.
also, it's not just Gojo and Mahito that could beat Midoriya.
Curse Naoya's Domain Expansion would rip him apart.
Master Tengen is sealing deku in a looped ouroboros barrier.
Takaba would stalemate and incapacitate him.
Hana can depower Deku with Jacob's Ladder
In the case where Deku kills any sorcerer, he's susceptible to Higuruma's Domain.
It gets worse if you grant them teams, for example:
Yuta using Curse Speech to stop Deku in his tracks is a set up that leads into a multitude of Deku Ls.
He beats about 95% of the verse in 1v1, but he loses in 1vTeams or 1vAll.
Season 6 deku could solo jjk without gojo 100% deku is over kill and is destroying the verse even with gojo 100% deku literally broke someone’s quirk
I got Gojo's infinity barrier shower thoughts.
1. I kinda understand how the barrier works, it slows something down by adding a extra number to the space that it can create indefinitely.
2. If anything, Gojo sees something as a threat, he can make the trheat be stopped by barrier.
Hear me out.
Someone who can control light itself, like. You need kight to see, but you are being hurt. If Gojo makes the barrier abke yo stop light. Woukd he becoume blind but invisible?
What about air beding? Bro meeds oxigen. Does his space barrior work like a space void or being under water holding his breath?
What about yhings that are already inside the barrier? Like a plant, vine or pencil. Someone with an advanced form of chlorokinesis can manipulate those, pencil made of wood and all.
I am done cooking, and this shi- isn't done. Mybad
@@Kris_deltarune-69 You arguments are valid
@@Kris_deltarune-69 I think there would be a certain limit to what he can stop cus if he can stop anything, his dimensionality would go like brr and it would make the JJK scaling very weird, with that said he might be able to stop those things. Im just not sure
Bruh. I just though of something. Is this a truely a shower thoughts? Because this thoughts doesn't seems to stop on coming.
Should I edit the original coment or make a second one in this section?
@@Kris_deltarune-69 make a second one, or drop ur discord if u want
When you say the whole verse where's my goat Todo at? Bro made sukuna confused and with the vibra slap deku would be confused as hell
But I do agree that deku will win.
speed diff ? yk what that means right ?
single big AOE attack in question:
Danger sense plus his speed or an aoe attack
with deku's biq he could immobilize him by punching his hand off or just binding him up with blackwhip. Don't forget that deku could really just use danger sense to detect him coming as well.
Manga prime deku is currently Multi continental.
But at his very best alot of mha manga powerscalers are aguring to say that he is planetary.
And thats the same for Shigaraki.
Personally i definitely dont think that at all
Deku and shigaraki are both at multi continental. No where near planetary.
Theres only 2 characters in mha that are that level
The rest are street-country level
Deku can change the weather with just a punch.
He is comparable to prime all might who used to basically have the power to nuke cities back in the day.
Also weakened all might in season 1 took 300 punches to beat the usj nomu and he punched him out the stratosphere (proven by all mights ultimate in MHOJ2). But he said himself that in his prime it would’ve took 5 punches to beat him. That is how massive the power difference is between Weakened all might and prime all might. And deku has already said back in his dark deku arc that he is way more powerful than all might in his prime. And deku is strong at that point but NOT as strong as he was in his prime manga form.
Dekus last punch was so powerful it was felt all the way in America.
Which instantly makes it a multi continental feat.
He can go hand to hand with shigaraki
Someone who has literally took multiple nukes the face like nothing and survived.
He has decayed cities in just seconds. And shigarakis Presence alone made a Volcanic Eruption.
He also went against the number 1 American hero which is Star and Stripes.
She has the power to touch anything and say its name and she can change the law of it
So basically she can touch the air and be like “All Air infront of me is GONE”
It would indeed begone and she almost killed shigaraki that way but he was way too strong and survived it.
Deku in the 2nd movie showed a country level feat as well.
Deku can move so fast that he breaks the laws of physics. There is literally a panel in the manga that says that.
Right now Deku Multi-continental and is Mftl+
Some of his quirks: Ofa+Gearshift+Fa jinn are really broken quirks that give deku this kind of speed
For example for fa jinn
If deku keep repeating tons of movements he can store the kinetic energy and use it whenever he wants and it will let out a instant burst of speed and power. So basically if deku wanted to he could store up fa jinn for like a year and then use it and he would probably evaporate himself because of how fast he would go.
Then u also have shigaraki who is a bioengineered superhuman with many quirks, super regen and just really broken abilitys who can decay cities in seconds, erupt a volcano with his mere presence and even decay space and time properties.
Whole mha verse is planetary but the strongest characters are around country-multi continental.
There are some very powerful characters in mha.
Too bad it gets hated on so much that people just assume that it has a weak verse.
In the newest movie trailers they literally show cracks in the sky and shit as if it was doctor strange or smt
Characters literally having dimensional breaking abilities.
Yeah for infinity.
U can get past infinity with good enough speed or inverted spear of heaven.
The lightspeed feats in mha have always been true.
Aoyamas lasers have been stated many times to be light and if his lasers werent light. Then they wouldnt be able to light up dark areas or reflect of toru (which torus whole power is literally to reflect light)
Theres also most likely a combination of quirks that all for one and shigaraki can do to get past infinity
Shigaraki and deku keep evolving.
Deku can warp reality so that could get him through. Plus deku has fought against someone that has a similar power to gojos infinity.
Obviously they are not the same but they still work the same.
Flect turn from the 3rd mha movie deku fought against him.
His quirk is reflect so basically anything he comes in contact with close to his body it just reflects. And his quirk is a power that is ALWAYS ACTIVE so he cant turn it off
His power is so broken that he couldnt even kill himself. His family couldnt even touch him.
Deku managed to get past with plot armour and big punches.
Yeah it doesnt work the same as infinity but it still gives deku the experience of fighting someone he cant touch.
Star and stripes could get past gojo its like a 50/50 her power is called new order. It allows her to touch something, say the name of it and add a rule to it.
She was so broken that they killed her off really quickly.
So basically she can be like *touches air*
Then she says “Air, the air infront of me will disappear” and basically that would happen.
Which would remove any sort of air including any oxygen. She even created a giant susanoo of herself.
She could get past infinity. But yeah.
Jjk compared to mha is like darth vader against children.
Jjk is city level at best and mha is multi continental-planetary.
Jjk characters are nothing more than regular humans compared to mha characters
Also quirks are not magic. They are a physical thing.
And characters in mha with quirks, they are automatically already much more durable and stronger than regular humans
For example.
Shoto todoroki.
He has no quirks that help him be more durable or regen or help him be built stronger in anyway.
But he can survive get thrown really fucking hard through a building and barely be hurt by it.
Even if u dont have a quirk that focuses on your durability
Your still naturally really durable if u are born with a quirk.
Another example is lemilion.
His quirk allows him to phase through shit like obito.
Or like a ghost.
And somehow he can punch really fucking hard that a giant monster goes flying.
Mha characters with quirks are just naturally really strong and durable.
i like how dekus finally getting attention for being strong bro
@@SunWukong-e8q fr, he’s always been pretty strong, but now Continental+ for Deku is insane. He’s already stronger than guys like Mob, JJK and hell even my goat Jotaro
@@konoheisenbergda he's not stronger than Mob💀
@@mrsketchysketch680what feats does Moh have? Genuinely asking here I've never watched that show
@@mrsketchysketch680 isn’t he like country level? I’m not sure, Mob Psycho 100 is literally my 3rd fav anime, I best scale it too someday
@@konoheisenbergda he has consistent multi-continental scales and the Author ONE stated that his ???% mode will be equal to full power Tatsumaki who should be above second form monster Garou who is one shot tier above his previous form which split sage centipede in half and sage centipede is equal to evil ocean water who has consistent moon level scaling
Deku vs mahito black whip slam him down to the core of earth Ggs bro
You forgot about Takaba, who can literally warp reality however he pleases as long as he thinks it's funny. Takaba could theoretically be immune to Deku's entire kit, outspeed, and one-shot him.
True, I should've elaborated upon this, but once more, Deku is just much faster. 85 x FTL against High Hypersonic is a humongous gap in terms of speed
@@konoheisenbergda deku isnt ftl he is rel
well he cant if he just gets speed blitz in a million diff ways.
@@tenshadowsnotbumgumi hes not both hes faster
@@GalaxyRocher nah rel
You've never debated an actual debater then, because the main arguments would be blitzing Gojo's perception, Gear Shift pushing Deku to move so fast he taps into Inf. Speed and bypass Gojo's Infinity Effects, Gojo doesn't have enough AP to damage Deku, or Gojo isn't fast enough to land a hit on Deku
@@NooneYouknow-g8m did you watch the video? I literally mentioned that Gojo in terms of AP/Speed is getting godstomped
And no, he doesn’t tap into Infinity via Gearshift. Gearshift is cool and all, but is just another multiplier at the end of the day, said multiplier is not gonna make Deku have infinite speed to counter Infinity.
@@konoheisenbergda Even then, Deku could perception blitz Gojo before his brain could automatically activate Infinity. And I make that comment before the Gear Shift part, Infinite Speed is definitely a stretch but, it can give him even more speed, more than enough to speed blitz Gojo.
@@konoheisenbergda I was having a bad day when I make this comment so sorry if it came across as rude. All respect to your opinion
@@NooneYouknow-g8m Gojo always has Infinity activated cus of the ptsd Toji gave that man. I can see Deku no diffing a Teen Gojo, fs, but Currrnt Gojo never has had Infinity off once (maybe I haven’t remembered many JJK scenes well)
@@NooneYouknow-g8m thanks, hope you’ve had better days since
The part when you were talking about how muscular deku was the scene you showed was from the beginning of the year (chapter 414 bro looks like super Saiyan blue Goku) also the slab of metal he used in the sports festival weighed like 1,000 pounds
I just started watching, but even though Deku can't bypass Gojo's infinity, he would be stronger than most JJK characters unless we use the large planetary scaling for them, which then JJK solo
I think you kinda downplayed JJK they're not crazy strong. However, the higher-ups should be scaled to large Mountain to like country level consistently, so yeah, still the same outcome Deku wins also I love femboys so another thing I disagreed with the vid but besides that I completely agree Deku wins
@@User_Here414 yeah I honestly did, I’d say that they should go to Large Mountain at most nowadays
@@konoheisenbergda fair, I guess 🤷♂️
@@konoheisenbergda I uh forgot to mention something about Gojo funny enough, which, if true or whenever you accept it as true, could completely change the outcome of the fight me personally I don't believe it at all however I thought it was something worth mentioning which is the possibility of Gojo having inaccessible speed due to the fact that when he was trapped by that weird box thing (I forgot what it was called or who trapped him lmao) it was stated that time or space doesn't exist there/pass meaning to move in there Gojo would have to have Inaccessible speed. It's most likely actually it is an outliner. However, I thought it was something worth mentioning for like an extreme high-end for speed. Plus, you could argue that he was referring to Gojo not being able to age in there instead of it lacking time completely.
Pretty much view the Inaccessible speed scaling as the same way you would view the Large Planetary scaling. You either call them an outliner and go by with your day or say they're a high-end for the JJK verse and go by with your day unless you want to meat ride or make a fight interesting by using these higher end feats then go ahead that's fine by me.
FYI: I don't think Large Planetary is that crazy for the JJK verse, tbh However, I understand why people don't really accept it. To me, Large Mountain to like Country level potentially even higher is consistent imo however what do I know? I'm just some guy on the internet with an opinion.... so what I think we learned is that JJK higher ends is extremely fucking OP compared to other verses lmao
In all honesty, Deku slams 99% of the JJK verse, But Deku vs Gojo is a no contest. Deku can’t bypass infinity, and gojo can’t keep up with Deku’s speed. But if Deku manages to drain Gojo’s cursed energy, then Gojo would get his shit rocked. But otherwise, there is no winner in this battle.
He can't drain it tho
deku solos gojo i can yap abt it
@@tenshadowsnotbumgumi i honestly agree. Deku outclasses gojo in every aspect. power, speed and intelligence. The only thing that’s holding Deku back from beating gojo is gojo’s bullshit infinity.
@@Afropeashooter30 h bypasses it
@@tenshadowsnotbumgumi how?
He does solo gojo, gojo has literally no wincon to air pressure that he can’t perceive
There is no way you think gojo gonna loses to air
That is literally so wrong bro
@@idontknowshtr7634 prove me wrong 😭 plus it isn’t air, it’s pressurized. You’re telling gojo to block something that literally could go down to electrons
@@akita.1sinfinite void?! You can’t block that crap with pressurized air and there is no counter to it plus infinity deku cant bypass infinity for more than a second
@@Adventurist01 so you concede to the point that gojo cant block air pressure, cool
Deku is leagues faster and stronger. He beats gojo before he even gets his domain.
Whats the song in the beginig
@@jamesharvey2073 Windmill Isle Act 1. Other songs are in the description 🍌
Deku vs todo(deku wins todo might land 1 hit)
Deku vs yuji(deku solos with low diff)
Deku vs megumi(neg diff)
Deku would solo grade 5-special grade 1
Deku vs yuta(mid diff)
Deku vs maki(no diff)
Deku vs toji(same as maki)
Deku vs jogo(mid diff)
Deku vs miwa(miwa solos)
Deku vs sukuna (extreme diff)
Deku vs gojo(gojo extreme and I MEAN EXTREME DIFF)
Deku vs gojo no infinity(deku mid diffa)
No deku blitzs and 1 shoots everyone but gojo cus of infinity and that's it. Blitzs and 1 shoots means mid diff ig
This is honestly one of the better videos I’ve seen on this but it’s still mind-boggling to me, i’m not gonna argue that you’re wrong because I don’t think you are but I do think it’s insane that Deku is able to destroy JJK. I am a fan of JJK but I don’t try to glaze any anime as I love a lot of them, I used to love my hero academia so much but there was so many moments of plot holes and I didn’t like the direction they were taking Deku (also a lot of cool characters just don’t get a lot of screen time) since the very beginning it was shown that he was meant to be a very smart person and study peoples quirks but through almost every single fight he ever is in, he just finger flakes and punches/kicks people. Then he gets multiple quirks and starts to just become Jesus of the world, I just wish he studied his enemies more and actually did things I thought were interesting other than just going super fast and punching hard. Good job on the video but I really wish Deku didn’t win as I think realistically he shouldn’t. (I know it’s anime and you shouldn’t say realistically but come on man, this guy didn’t have a quirk then gets this, and was breaking every single bone in his body early on just for him to become the strongest person basically in the anime. Like endeavor being able to create fire, was apparently a strong quirk, then we have this guy being able to probably destroy multiple islands with just one punch and apparently warp “reality”?) again good video but my God.
Also, I know all of this is stupid but this is just been something that’s been bugging me and I just don’t like the fact that Deku can be people like the main big bad (like this dude was literally able to kill something that is able to adapt to staff, his whole technique is practically being able to cut through anything but still loses to a teenager with green hair lol) sorry if all of this was stupid and hurt your brain, I like to believe I’m a big fan of anime and that I am a smart guy, but I just find this honestly kind of mind blowing.
Fr, I think Horikoshi lost it with his writing somewhere and botched up the ending so fucking bad. It’s not that he took away his Quirks being my problem, in fact I like that, that’s good, I’m just so fucking angry to Deku cucking at everyone’s success while he does nothing to try and be a hero, all he does is be some lousy teacher and that’s it! Sure he shares his knowledge to other students and young heroes, but All Might literally has the tech and money to give him a chance to be a hero again. Like, fuck Deku in S1 was able to contend with Bakugo, Salad Bar said that would put him in the Large Building levels of ranges which is insane.
Also thanks a lot for the support bro, means a lot
@@konoheisenbergda I can definitely agree as the ending is really dropping the ball, I think it was kind of shown that he would maybe come back with the tech but it’s still all just frustrating but I do understand why he doesn’t get with anyone. They’re all just young and trying to be heroes so it would be adding even more to the plate but I definitely see why everyone hate the ending and I don’t like it either. I would love to share more of my opinions with you as I disagree with some of what was said the most what is factual but still doesn’t make any sense, I literally even had to look up to see because other people were saying all quirks raise physical stats, which with what we see could be true, but it’s never outright stated so it’s more head canon than anything. Which proves my point and makes everything even more hard to gauge as Deku literally gets hurt by punches from people that have quarks that are never outright said to increase their strength, bakugo for sure has increased durability because of his explosion quirk but there’s nothing to show that he outright is physically stronger without using his explosions to speed up (there were times where he actually hurts Deku without speeding up) I literally had someone argue with me of if someone is super strong then they would also be very durable which isn’t necessarily true as we’ve seen in multiple books and animes, that still doesn’t go against my point of Bakugo would have increased durability but there’s no showings of him lifting anything a normal human wouldn’t be able to without his quirk, if people want to disagree and think I’m wrong then that’s fine but these people need to at least see where I’m coming from.
@@konoheisenbergda here are some things I’m thinking about, float is kind of useless as it does give him a range of mobility in mid air but not much. Smokescreen can be somewhat useful but easily dealt with by a lot of characters, danger since is kind of just a op but also stupid as there’s multiple times, it doesn’t work against people who are not trying to hurt him or don’t have malice. gearshift is overall a really weird quirk that I think some people over hype as the best idea with what I know is a practically allows the user to make objects or a person ignore the law of friction, which is all and good until you think about how friction is white create speed and slows things down. meaning technically he would not be able to go faster or slower there for being stuck at whatever speed he just put his self as, there’s also the fact that it limits how much oxygen he will be receiving so he can only use it a limited amount of times. There was more I could say, but I think a lot of that clears what I just thought of at the very moment and I’m sure I could think of way more if I was given time to think
It’s because you normally wouldn’t expect Broccoli Boy to be able to do this stuff. Until you remember all of the stuff he had to go through during the series. The dude had to break his body several times over to learn how to use his abilities and because of that he was able to become a lot stronger than anyone thought he could.
You might be able to argue gear shift getting through infinity because of the fact that it ignored the laws of physics and therefore inertia.
In chapter 76, gojo states that he manually used to sort the danger levels of objects based on their cursed energy, which deku doesnt have. But in the same panel he does say that he can now sort them based on the mass, speed AND shape, which if you take literally you could argue he requires either all 3 of those or the cursed energy of an object for infinity to work.
Now because gearshift ignores inertia, and without inertia there is no recognisable mass, since the mass of an object and the inertia that acts on it are proportional, you might be able to argue that deku wouldn't have a recognisable mass for infinity to be able to stop him. No idea if this has already been debunked though
gearshift can manipulate the ACCELERATION aspect, not mass. when you are standing still and want to reach top speed, you need to SPEED UP. when you are sprinting and need to stop, you need to SLOW DOWN. with gearshift, you can ignore this speed up/slow down process. you can go from 0 to max speed instantly, and max to 0 speed insantly.
but that doesn't matter to gojo as deku still will have a speed, and a mass, and a force, which will be automatically detected and stopped by limitless.
12:32 😂 spawns in front of them like a fucking Enderman
The only true people that can beat deku with a domain expansion Is… Mahito, Can transfigure deku.. Gojo, Giving him the Jogo treatment
I would say the OFA vessel inside Deku's spirit realm would jump him, each with their quirks enchanced.
He has danger sense he can easily get out of domain expansion's radios before they even make it's hand singh or just blitzs them from the start. Deku solos all beside gojo cus of infinity
The fact that deku can communicate with the vestiges suggests that deku would know the shape of his soul and the vestiges pulling manito into their soul/quirk realm similar to sukuna
Lemme just debunk the counter arguments
Deku gets past Gojo with ease, but he'll tire himself out doing so, as he only ever went MFTL when using Gearshift, and he got extremely exhausted afterwards
Deku beats Mahito *soul*-ly due to the fact that Deku understands the soul like Yuji, therefore allowing him to damage Mahito. His domain expansion won't do anything either.
Toji is not doing anything at all, if he did, then Maki would've done better anyways.
Oh, and they Yuta copying his ability shtick? We already have an example in mha on why that wouldn't work.
Monoma! His quirk is Copy, just like how Yuta's CT is Copy. Both work the same way, requirements are different.
Just like how Yuta would need to tame the ten shadows if he were to copy Megumi's Technique
Deku's quirk is an Accumulation quirk, therefore Monoma couldn't copy it well, as he was not strong enough, nor could he unlock the vestiges quirks.
And it's even confirmed in Post-Shibuya that Yuta is only a power type due to cursed energy, and that he's only decent in actual physical strength.
Wait wait wait.... Deku doesn't just need to understand the soul he needs to be able to perceive the spul of himself and others. Which hasn't been shown. Unless we're talking about the seeing kid Shigiraki moments which would barely count only because we don't know if he can attack it
You didn't debunk anything but I agree with you yuta cant copy quirks he can only copy cursed technuiqed and he needs to eat a large enough portion of a cursed user to get there ability.
Deku doesn't bypass infinity at all. Moving faster than gojo or blitzing his perception doesn't matter infinity is a wall of infinitely dividing space that will slow deku down and stop any and all if dekus attacks that infinity deems as a threat.
Deku can't hurt or see mahito.
Toji dies to deku, deku pinky flicks toji.
Just gonna say this takaba solos deku if they fought as deku has no counter to comedian.
@@thyentity6295 I looked this up. Gear shift allows the user to move at high speeds while ignoring the law of inertia aka the law of movement. This would allow him to bypass infinity since it wouldn't detect Deku moving. But the catch is it would only work for 5 minutes. And if Deku can't land a solid hit in Gojo who could "teleport" away Deku would exhaust himself leaving him wide opeb
@@bringiton4drago371 yeah no, infinity works by manipulating the concept of infinity and works by dividing space infinity around him, this slows down and stops any incoming attack, deku still travels which all infinity does is add more distance preventing deku from bypassing it
@@thyentity6295 For infinity to slow something down the object has to obey the law of inertia or be Targeted at Gojo specifically. Gear shift (which you look up the quirk) allows the user to move while ignoring the law of inertia (which is bs but hey MHA like the give the middle to most laws of physics)
Infinity slowing something down is what creates the infinite distance.....unless infinity is also pushing the object back at the smae time....?
Mahito and Toji don't matter. in these matches, to me, everyone is blood lusted at the jump of Deku speed blitzes and rails the verse except for Yuki's Black Hole, Gojo's Infinity, Yorozu's Perfect Sphere, and Sukuna's World Cutting Slash plus Domain Expansions but even then, most of that is negated because of Deku's crazy Fa Jin + Gearshift + 45% One For All speed feats being FTL to MFTL+ if we're highballing. Deku solos and only saving grace is Gojo's OP Infinity.
Deku absolutely does pass infinity because infinity can literally just be punched through lmao. Y'all act like this ability is near infallible when it's established that it can just be overcome with abilities of greater potency like domains
Sorry for constantly reuploading, had to take out some stuff or I would be copyrighted
Good video subscribing
@@Keith_Norman thanks
@@konoheisenbergda np
Y-yeah i-I’ll just have 2 number 9’s
Gearshift bypasses infinity bc Deku controls his speed .Infinty does not create an infinite space it just slows things down by half instantly.Deku can technically control infinty
Danger sense isn't perfect as if the attack is fast enough it can still hit deku even if he senses it for example lady nagant deku senses the bullet coming and still gets hit by it......either way W video though 👏 👏 👏
a current deku is hundreds of times stronger and faster
I'm pretty sure Deku was tired and extremely sleep deprived while fighting villains nonstop during that arc, so I'm pretty sure Nagant's bullet hitting him wouldn't happen normally
Deku has nothing to do with soul it's just one for all and all for one reacting with each other so mahito provided he takes a few hits is still winning via idle transfiguration
wym?
Tbh Jjk rlly had the most debunked powerscale ever like Your know its very weak when deku can solo the verse
Hey would sukuna true form technically chanting and using the wcs on the beam that kashimo used be light speed or ftl?
@@kingnaruto4life422 I literally said neither because he still got blitzed by lightning
@@konoheisenbergda that was weakened tho. He was all beat up and the feat I stated was when he was healed back
Gearshift can get past infinity
Infinity divide's the space between Gojo and a target by 2 an infinite number of times.
Gear shift allows deku to increase his speed
Basically imagine imagine gojo as the number 0 and Deku as number 1 it doesn't matter how many times you divide 1 by something it will never reach 0 but gearshift introduces subtraction which allows 1 to 0 or in This case deku to reach gojo
So are we going to talk about how gearshift has insane drawbacks or no?
@@frostydog1191 Yea it has insane drawbacks but those drawbacks ain't gonna matter cuz gojo ain't lasting that long
@@Eggwastaken969 so even if he somehow gets past infinity (can't he's perceived as a threat) whats he going to do about unlimited void
@@frostydog1191do u really think unlimited void would pose a threat to someone who can change his speed or anything he touches to light speed
Immediately gojo uses unlimited void, danger sense would activate and he would probably move out of the way
@@AlexanderNtui so he misses domain infinity is still up he gets close he cant reach em either gojo can just do another domain and go braindead for a bit or he can somehow pull the bullshittery and land a black flash to refresh his technique and use unlimited void when deku charges him and is stuck hitting air
Lesgo Yuji believers, smashing that soul no way back
He’s a bit stupid for not including that once you open a domain a hit is guaranteed unless you have a technique that can deal with it, and deku doesn’t have any techniques he has quirks, not the same also only curses can damage curses
@@jasonholmes7127 except he somewhat does, Danger Sense forecasts Domain Expansions. Also don’t call me stupid, goofer 🤨
@@konoheisenbergdayes it can forecast danger doesn't mean he will react in time, like the bullet from lady nagant and I doubt he will be fast enough to Dodge a 0.02 domain expansion or an open domain that can expand
@@Keith_NormanDeku is relativistic at a massive lowball, there's no way he's failing to react to a domain expansion
@@konoheisenbergda maybe I’m wrong but I don’t think he would be able to dodge something that is stated to be for sure hits, not trying to say you’re wrong but I think he would get hit. The whole idea of domain expansions are you can’t dodge the attacks
He slams all of jjk other than gojo that would either be a stalemate or deku rocks his shit and yes sukuna gets one tapped by deku it's not close and bros not healing from that
RCT can literally heal the soul also domain expansion and the fact that Gojo is above country level
@@Keith_Normanlmk when Sukuna can react and pop domain before he gets blitzed. Gojo infinity is the only thing in the verse that can win.
And what is RCT gonna do when you're in pieces and can't think
@Keith_Norman was it not literally stated than u can heal from anything where was it stated to heal the soul??
@@Keith_NormanGojo country level ? Delusional 💀💀😂
In my opinion I think Jogo could potentially catch Deku off guard possibly even beat him because Jogo was only seen fighting against the strongest people in the verse and when he encountered some Grade 1 sorcerers he was actually disrespecting them but just take that with a grain of salt
Lack of ap to damage Deku
His lava isn't even as strong as Endeavour's flames
Nice video
@@Inexact70 thanks man, means a lot to hear that
@@konoheisenbergda you clearly put work into this video it’s worth an applause 👏
So who will win gojo and deku vs sukuna?
@@Dachessysigma watch the video dude, I explain that Deku would no diff Sukuna because he doesn’t have any protective hax against him like Gojo and doesn’t have a dura neg ability like Gojo does with Unlimited Void
@@konoheisenbergda but how is he going to break through a infinite barrier between him and gojo
@@Dachessysigma dude watch the video! I literally said that he wouldn’t! The whole point of the video is to answer ‘if’ Deku can solo, I never said he can solo in the title. Watch the video instead of asking, jeez
You need cursed energy to damage and cursed spirit and to those deku fans who say that no diffs sukuna deku will only be able to as most deku fans say will use his danger sense to dodge all of sukunas attacks and some of y'all say he moves faster then light
In order for something to go the speed of light they need to have NO MASS but to go faster than light I don't know😅
Isn't it funny how shindo could solo jjk, he has great reaction feats and speed with the scarf and the minute he catches someone in brainwashing ITS OVER
Gojo destroy that loser, it not even funny
@DelawareSmash1 do anyone give a F***, if he wins by hax,
No way bro said that deku can hide in a domain using smoke screen?! And literally tell if you exactly Where your opponent is based off of their ce
@@dreamtiya8149 I never said that, I said he can use smoke screen to throw off all his opponents and just one shot them one after on another as they try to search for him in the smoke
@@konoheisenbergda they would still know where he is based off of the simple fact that he's in the domain as long as he has CE they could automatically tell exactly where he is regardless of smoke I'm not saying that it helps him win it's just something that he would probably realize rather soon and stop doing all together
@@konoheisenbergda and why didn't you about naoya? He actually probably wins because of his domain
@@dreamtiya8149 true, as I said, there would have to be verse equalisation in this fight, but Deku would just massively speedblitz before they even really think about using their DE and this applies to everyone, except Gojo. He’s literally dodged light and using very many multipliers you can scale him to FTL+. Whereas I mentioned in the video, High Hypersonic is the farthest any JJK character has gone
@@konoheisenbergda naoya who would most certainly land the domain because if they're both bloodlusted he would just instantly pop it
well deku can technically get past infinity since gojo needs to breathe so we know that air gets through so all deku has to do is send a pressurized wave of air to one shot gojo
That's not how adult gojo's infinity works. It has a filter that keeps any harmful thing away from gojo so it'll just not affect him.
Although if deku can spam delaware smash enough time quickly enough he might just suffocate gojo.
This is cope
If you wanna make it unfair for deku, make the whole verse face him with inf cursed energy and all a their peak, all deku would need to win is eri, omfg if deku had eri the entire earth would be gone in a matter of seconds, no matter how far deku goes, rewind will always rewind him meaning everyone is cooked
asta still solos
Reply to this if you wanna explanation
Bro just put the fries in the bag 😭
Ok so when he fights gojo he will alter the cash machine to make gojo embarrassed and he will un activate his infinity to eat the charity food and deku will kill him with the knife he used to make his burger
@@Mhur123average jojo episode be like:
Yuki is prob one of the only people who could Outscale Deku Damage wise due to her virtual mass that allows her to apply the force equal to F= M*A (Calculates Force In Newtons). With mass being able to go all the way up to a black hole. Starting from human size which is about 1.18×10^27 kilograms. Or 590,000 Earths all packed into a human sized vessel.
Ofc this is all fiction so who gives a fuc-
Dude u cant bring calculations to anime. I guarantee a detroit smash isn't destroying part of a nation. Hell the whole changing the weather thing isn't even consistent and I doubt the author realized wth it would actually mean. I think the author just thought "what is something cool and at the same time seems impossible for a normal person".
Even without those calcs in the lab shigaraki decayed like at least a cities radius and deku is comparable to shig not to mention they both got stronger following this.
Yeah, but by that logic you shouldn’t take any of this seriously. Besides, most of the characters can still pull this stuff off anyway.
@@Skibster-w9l You can take it seriously but if your trying to power scale than you have to power scale all and everything. If there is a single moment that contradicts this display of power then it is automatically discredited. If u bring real world logic to this then it has to bend to real world logic and science called consistency.
However he is not FTL he's at best Sub relativistic to relativistic
Nah he's got plenty of feats that easily out him at FTL or MFTL
@@thegreatestoctopus9739 yeah because it's not like he was almost hit by a bullet he's consistently more sub relativistic
@@Keith_Norman he literally outspeeds the bullet at Faux 100%. He's several thousand times faster than said bullet. Do you think his speed in the vigilante arc is his greatest speed or something?
@@thegreatestoctopus9739 ??? he need faux 100% to surpass that bullet. that clearly without faux 100%, he's SLOWER than the bullet, and that he BARELY outsped the bullet, bullets being a little over mach speed. and while gear shift does speed him up, you really think he went from supersonic to near light speed? The author went out of his way to have sonic booms when deku used gear shift. clearly it's to indicate that with this, deku has surpassed MACH SPEED, not freaking light speed. if deku was throwing around light speed punches shigaraki would've exploded. no, deku would've exploded.
Shoto is enough for the verse, take it easy on the jjk fans 😭 ((no shoto can’t beat gojo))
fr but shoto slams
Stop making the stupid fast food joke.
Deku mid diffs jjk verse
So Deku and MHA actually only come up to Mach speed Levels and thats only with traveling speed. Give me one minute and ill return with the math I did from under another video
Lightspeed is 299,792,458 m/s which when translated to Mach Speed (since that's the speed type we are using) is 874,030.
1-1. Lady Nagant's bullet speed travel time, we're gonna use the shot she took at AFO since that's more impressive. We don't know the exact distance for the shot from the hospital to the battle field but we can assume it was around 300kms, since we don't now the actual time the bullet was shot (which is important for determining bullet travel speed) we'll say it traveled 300kms in 1 second which clocks the bullets speed at 1,080,000 kh/h, when we convert that to travel distance speed at Mach 874.. So as we now see her bullets (not her) top speed is about 0.0010006922 the speed of light. which while fast is no where near actual light speed. But this is only her bullets.
1-2. Given that all of her shots have been made from far distances away from her targets we can't really calculate what the reaction speed would be needed to dodge at closer shot. But if we we're to guess unless the target has a precognition quirk then they wouldn't be able to react in time to dodge the shot.
2-1.As I (and many others) have stated never use Aoyama's Navel Laser as a means of a light speed attack since people who we know for a fact aren't light speed aka people like Mineta can dodge it, so unless you want to give Mineta the FTL speed which no joke would put him on par with people like the Flash, Superman, Goku, Whis, and many other character with proven feats than you might want to re think that.
This second part is about Jirou blocking the electro waves
2-2. As you have just also stated the MHA characters were barely able to dodge or could only block the Impure Light , which was probably thanks to the visual indicators from AFO's attacks. If you forgot when ever he sent out a light/sound based attack there was always a black spark before he attacked which trained hero's would catch onto. How does Jirou's sound waves help the argument? Sound waves are completely different from Radio waves
2-3. While Radio Waves are a type of electromagnetic wave which can travel through a vacuum (empty space, and I mean like Space) without a medium (a starting point/source), Sound Waves are a type of mechanical wave aren't able to this and NEED a medium. For example while AFO radio wave quirk would work even in outer space, Jirous's wouldn't. This is because electromagnetic waves DON'T need air, while sound waves DO need air. BUT radio waves can make sound which Jirou is able make a loud enough counter noise to halt it.
I'll also post the match ups I did for JJK vs Deku here:
So first off were gonna put Deku as a Grade 2 each quirk is a CT that he can use either by itself or in union, He is Grade 2 due to 4 of his CTs have backfires from overuse
Sidenote: In JJK Cursed Energy can be used to amp your stats like durability and attack potency, it doesn't get talked about alot given that its pretty common for any Cursed Energy user.
1. Danger Sens ISN'T like Spidey sense. Here is the stated definition of Danger Sense-This Quirk allows the user to detect any potential threats in the surrounding area, thus giving the user the opportunity to properly react to them quickly. This Quirk takes a large toll on the user's body depending on the threat it senses
and Here brief description on Spider Sense- It allows Spider-Man to detect danger before it happens and warns him of it in no time. The greater the danger or how close the danger is increases the tingling sensation. It also helps Spider-Man to navigate when unable to see, hear, or if he's disoriented.
While Danger Sense act like an alarm bell, Spidey sense is precognitive in nature. Also sufficiently fast attacks can also prevent the user from being able to properly dodge them, as Izuku was heavily injured by Lady Nagant's bullet despite using Danger Sense.
2. Danger sense can both be overwhelmed as well as lied to shown in chapter 320 by Toga and by the other heros in chapter 422, even if trained
3. End of Series Deku DOESN'T have Danger sense. In the final fight it was stolen by AFO in chapter 411, BUT I'm going to use full power Deku meaning he will have Danger sense, but first I'll show how the fight pan out with out danger sense
4. This is the most important part, in JJK it has been stated that even the everyday civilian has a small trace of CE, they just don't have enough to see or use CT. So unless Deku has HR and specifically the one that gives him Toji or Maki's level of CE than DEs will effect him, but this also means he might not be able to see Cursed Spirits since he would have no CE training.
5. We're using EOS characters, why? Becasue this is where they are at their strongest
First Anyone vs Non Danger Sense Deku- only 3 people are getting taken out with mid diff and thats the Kyoto girls. Non of their CTs are strong enough nor are they quick enough to either casue damage to or sustain damage from Deku. You have to realized Deku before Danger Sense was struggling in the field, our boy was putting in work no doubt but without DS he kinda gets stumped until he uses cowling. Everyone else you'll see in the next part.
Second when I find the peson who mark Deku as faster than light I'm slapping them, that one movie was for effects. Deku is clocking in at mach speeds as seen when he breaks the sound barrier with gear shift (which has a cool down or else he will be harmed). And now on to the actual fights
Todo vs Deku- This is actually a win for Todo with a high mid-diff thanks to his higher IQ in both Intelligence and Combat IQ a trait shared by all characters in JJK. Why you ask, it's be Boogie Woogie is broken. Boogie Woogie allows him to swap the places of anything that has a crumb of CE and we've seen ypu can imbue an inanimate object with CE. So does he win? By overloading Danger Sense by rapidly clapping with both real and fake swaps. And sorry folks even Blackchain is no use against Boogie Woogie since its a teleportation CT that Deku can't predict where Todo will be.
This allows Todo to attack in any place and amount he wants with no risk. And reaction speed is near S rank another trait shared by the high tiers in JJK.
Now for the Tokyo School with a near prefect win rate
The short answer No he doesnt
The long answer he does well and gets through a lot of people, but still no
Can't get through infinity
@jasonblack2477 I mean with people being able to simulate black holes, cut reality, move on the same level as electromagnetic waves, coceptually freeze cursed energy, modify souls, etc. Its no wonder he couldn't do anything to the top tiers of the verse he simply aint got the kit for it. Not to mention (almost) all the top teirs have RCT i'd be hard pressed to know what deku could do to someone like Mahito
@@TeknoKID19 rct won't do sht shigaraki had better regen and deku outscales😂
@jasonblack2477 Shigaraki's regen doesnt hold a candle to the likes of, Sukuna, Yuji, Gojo, Hikari's, Yuta's or even shoko's. And given the fact that these people can also tank buildings, meteors, and slashes that adjust to the targets durability. I think your point is falling short.
And then there's Mahito which Deku can't even permanently harm due to having next to no soul based powers
@@TeknoKID19 tf are meteors and buldings seriously😂. Deku outscales those city lvl fodders so bad its not even funny. Typical jjk fanboy lmao
Different Tiers Of Jjk Top Tier Scaling.
Tier 1-11.
Inconsistent Lowballs.
Tier 1-3 are low balls that are inconsistent and should only be used to make fights fair.
Tier 1: Building Level
This is a baseline for jjk top tiers and uses scaling and feats, this line of scaling is very inconsistent and should never be used.
Tier 2: Multi City Block Level
There are multiple feats such as Jogo destorying multiple city blocks from his Maximum Meteor, and Yuta From Jjk 0 Binding vow love blast, and with ryu destorying multiple buildings with granite blast. This level of scaling is very inconsistent.
Tier 3: Town Level
This is where it gets more consistent but not consistent enough, 15 Finger Yuji Sukuna managed to destory majority of Shibuya with domain fire arrow combo and depending on how much you scale it that could be a town level feat, and gojo destorying most of Shinjuku with a hollow nuke with depending on how much you scale it, it could be an town level feat.
Consistent/Relative Scaling Mid Balls.
Tier 4-7 Are the most consistent and reliable jjk top tier scaling tiers and should be the ones used most often.
Tier 4: City Level.
From the same 15 Finger Yuji Sukuna domain and fire arrow feat, it could be city level from how you scale it.
Tier 5: Mountain Level
From Domain creation feats, Jogo creating an entire volcano, Dagon creating an island that low ball scales only to mountain level, gojo creating an earthquake, and 15 finger Yuji Sukuna domain and fire arrow combo high ball to potentially mountain level, and during sukuna vs mahoraga it's shown them being able to clear the skies which is mountain level.
Tier 6: Island Level.
From Dagon domain creation feat could be scaled to island level. And Gojo when made that earthquake was in the subduction zone which means gojo's energy could shift these tectonic plates into account that feat would go to island level, and he did that casually.
Tier 7: Country Level
From the same gojo feat, that feat could be also scaled to country level, and it's stated that gojo could power the entirety of the USA making him country level from that statement, and also station special grades could solo nations.
Inconsistent High Balls.
Tiers 8-_ Are high balls that are inconsistent and should only be used to make fights fair.
Tier 8: Multi Continental level.
This also uses the Gojo powering the USA statement, where if gojo has the output and curse energy amount to power the entirety of the USA and since Yuta has higher curse energy amount Yuta should scale above this, but since gojo scales above him, gojo would scale above that which would be Multi Continental level.
Tier 9: Planetary
From Yuki creating and restricting a black hole with the help of tengen would equal to a small planetary level feat, and kenjaku being able to tank the black hole temporarily before using his anti gravity technique.
Extreme Unreliable High Balls.
Tiers 10-11 are EXTREME HIGH BALLS and shouldn't be used ever unless necessary.
Tier 10: Multi Star Level.
From Dagon domain creation feat, seemingly able to create a star with his domain, and top tiers should up scale this into multi Star level, very inconsistent.
Tier 11: Universal
This comes from Yoruzu being able to create a perfect sphere which has infinite ap, and sukuna being able to develop a world slash which has spatial or dimensional ap, you should NEVER use this.
who makes these L takes😭 this the same mf that said cabba beats ssj4 gogeta
@@Stargold-w9m broski what… when did I say that? 😭
@@konoheisenbergda not you 💀 the mf who originally started the question. I’m beefing with the guy who made both takes cause now mfs d riding
because cabba does
@@GalaxyRocher cap
@@Stargold-w9m nah you just think you only speak facts and aren’t willing to listen to anybody else’s thoughts
Ofc Deku solos JJK.
No
@@Keith_Norman No to you
What about EOS deku without the suit?
@@stephenm7843 superhuman so like city block arguably and hypersonic-hypersonic+ reactions.
@@stephenm7843 nah scratch that building arguably city block
Domain expansion would not work man no cursed enegrry ahh expect shrine
Gojos works on people with no cursed energy.
@@Number-1-ball-blast-player it doesnt
@@Number-1-ball-blast-playerthe civilians have CE, do you really not even read JJK?
Every human has curse energy no matter how small. Only exception to this are people who are heavenly restricted
@@Averagebhaiyaar234 except that Deku isn't from JJK, so he wouldn't have CE without verse equalisation
Hm,did my comment not upload?I gave some JJK scaling,because you made some mistakes.
@@eliasflawless1698 really? Where?
@@konoheisenbergda I was giving some Debunks about "Soul Protection" from Vestiges,gave some scaling for JJK speed using Kenjaku and Yuta,and gave a little reminder to look more in depth when researching Becauze yes,Electromagnetic waves move at light speed only in vacuum...but they still move around 98% light speed not in vacuum.
@@konoheisenbergda my comment not upload (
@@eliasflawless1698 could I have those debunks and yeah while my point on electromagnetic waves being LS in a vacuum is sorta weak, Sukuna and Kashimo still got hit by lightning so I consider it as some pseudo electromagnetic wave tbh
@@eliasflawless1698 fr, happens to me a lot too
Ofc it’s cuz of gojo 😭😭
And Mahito
Mahoraga literally can’t die unless every single fucking molecule of him is completely destroyed, and he did adapt in the sukuna fight, mahoraga can likely solo their verse though, with some characters that likely could kill him, but that’s not many, (shiggy doesn’t have the ability to do this, due to the fact that shiggy’s quirk destroys stuff over time instead of at once.)
1. Diabolical Mahoraga upscale, bro died to the purple Sukuna tanked twice.
2. Mahoraga adapting to slashes is the only reason Sukuna didn't evicerate him with normal slashes. It was never stated Mahoraga had to be atomized. Narrator said Sukuna could've killed him with cleave if he hadn't already adapted to slashes.
3. Mahoraga isn't made of molecules regardless. It's a shikigami.
4. Shiggy's quirk erased things "over time" at speeds near if not above the speed of sound. He absolutely annihilates Mahoraga, he has like 12 quirks we've seen that could've one shot Mahoraga on their own.
5. Yuji violates Mahoraga.
6. So does Ryu.
7. So does Mina Ashido.
@@prez.cookie980 bro the glazing on this man is absolutely disgusting.
1. The purple was a literally nuke of a purple, it had no target, no radius specified, and it wasn’t a premade purple and was a fresh one, and sukuna didn’t die to it because mahoraga tanked it for him, which atomized him, that’s different than the two other purples sukuna tanked
2 mahoraga DOES have to be atomized, as seen in the blueray (and possibly normal) mahoraga was nothing but pure blood on the wall, and he instantly regenerated
3. It is made of molecules, for something to not be made of molecules it has to not be matter, but anti matter, in which case mahoraga and any other shikigami would literally nuke the world by being summoned
4. Proof? We see many times that people who aren’t even that much faster than a care be able to outrun it, why wouldn’t a mahoraga who can regenerate from a bloodstain be able to regenerate before he is fully destroyed, while adapting to it, and end up nullifying it? And the 12 other quirks shiggy can one shot mahoraga with? I admit, you may have me there since I don’t know what these ones are that your talking about
5. No he doesn’t, yuji has absolutely no way to destroy mahoraga, he has no proper technique, we know nothing about his domain, and at best he could tire mahoraga out for a second
6. I don’t know who ryu is so probably
7. Mina’s acid can’t instantly (or very quickly for that matter) dissolve mahoraga, she is actually getting slammed
unlikely. it's stated cleave would've killed mahoraga if sukuna started the fight with that.
The thing he said about shigaraki 12 other quirks won't work because mahoraga can just adapt to the concept of quirks but this would only work if the master i.e sukuna orders mahoraga to do so@@Voided01
@@Voided01 don't argue with us JJK fans
Deku comfortably beats everyone on a one on one except for Sukuna and Gojo. (Not including curses)
He does not beat sukuna 100% of the time, however he is capable of killing sukuna. If sukuna pops a domain, deku dies. If deku does a 100% smash on sukuna, sukuna dies. Simple as that, they both are capable of killing eachother so the question is just who goes all out first.
Deku is a walking domain basically.
deku solos the verse
Tomo bien hasta que deku pelea como en las películas 💀
I don't like MHA , but i can't deny that Deku could be at grade 1 or special grade level
He actually really strong , but still i doubt he can beat Sukuna or Gojo
At least watch a few clips of the fighting scenes with Deku even if you don't like it. Deku is way above special grade. He has near FTL and multi continental feats because one for all is crazy strong. Respectfully, he speedblitzes Sukuna and kills him immediately. But Gojo? It's a tie for me because Gojo doesn't have the firepower to really hurt Deku, but deku can't get past infinity.
@Junoo9311 Maybe some version of Sukuna but not Sukuna at full Power with acces of all of his binding vow(even if he Will win High diff)
Since both Sukuna and Deku (with Gear shift) are Mak 5/ HyperSonic
@Junoo9311 for Gojo instead, he Just Need to open his domain
I know now you Will Say it's an asspull, but hinestly i don't see Deku tanking infinite information
Also Deku can't Tank an Hollow purple! Hollow purple can negate almost any durability and straight up disintegrate the target to 0 (unless the target it's completely indestructible like Sukuna's finger)
@@AsuraKish8n665 deku with gear shift is mach 5??? bro why don't you try reading mha. deku with gear shift is easily ftl if not faster, simply because of this: multiple characters in mha such as shigi easily reacts to lasers with no difficulty at all, and as we all know deku biltz a much stronger shigi. so yeah deku is not mach 5, stop lowballing him
@bicyclepizzadelivery ftl??? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Seriously?
Stop being a clown 🤡 dude! In the manga/anime they clearly said that Deku break the sound barrier, but he isn't faster than Light!
Get lost i despise dumb people like you
Mahito can be damaged if you make him use up all his stamina fixing his soul so it’d take a while but Deku would beat him eventually
where did you get that? it's never stated.
@@mrsketchysketch680 nanami says it
@@infamousbry2951 which episode?
@@mrsketchysketch680 I forgot which it’s either it might be in his 2nd fight with yuji and mahito I don’t remember though
@@mrsketchysketch680 nvm it’s in their first fight after nanami enters overtime he says he could either fight until mahitos runs out of ce which he could then kill him but that’s unrealistic or just run
So the Femboy solos the whole Jjk universe?
i don’t like it but he can broooooo
in what way is he a femboy he did nothing wrong (besides have green hair)
@@RX_toocoldThat double standard can be applied to Gojo with his white hair. Anime hair having strange colors isn’t meant to be questioned.
MHA fans glaze deku so much, like yes hes super strong but hes not beating gojo.
@@imperialworkshop3437 seems like someone didn’t watch the video
@@konoheisenbergda deku DOES NOT beat Gojo
@@foxy21287Gojo doesn’t beat Deku either, the speed gap is CRAZY
He certainly beats Gojo. Way faster and stronger. And I hate both JJK and MHA.
@@zamnster9158 how tf does he break infinity? Do you not understand it?
Also sukuna would also most likely win as well(not as easy as gojos win) cause any hits sukuna takes can be healed with rct and easier at that(because he is a curse) and all it takes is one domain expansion that has a 200 meter radius to complete wash deku out
sukuna cannot heal from celluar destruction or existence erasure, and deku would blitz and outrun/pace domain
You know sukuna is a human right?
So short for takaba destroy ?
Ok so don't come to kill me mha fans but I did some calculations...
So, the blackflash attack that sukuna got hit by should be around 1212470383143440000000000 this much force of Tnt cause I calculate since gojo's ap should be island level sealing from Dagons domain and the base energy required to pull of a island level is 4300000000 this much force of tnt and blackflash is a 2.5 Amp so tye number comes to 1212470383143440000000000 this and I have a feeling dekus punches aren't doing much with sukunas RCT
In conclusion, duku dies to 1 domain😂
@@ashimbeast4732 just checked on the AP tier list… you got this to planetary…? 2.5 x island level tbh wouldn’t even come close to planetary, at most large island.
@@konoheisenbergda bruh, You think 1.36x1032 is greater then 1.2124703831434400 × 10^(-18)🤣
@@ashimbeast4732 bro, no, firstly I explained that Dagon’s Domain isn’t an acceptable feat and that even if it was, it’d reach just mountain level. But okay, even if it was island level, at 4.3 gigatons of tnt, multiplying that by 2.5 would give 10.75 gigatons of tnt, still island level…
@@konoheisenbergda my guy, I think you frogot but both the anime and manga said that it was power of 2.5 and multiplying of 2.5. So, for you math failure. It is a exponent of 2.5 and not a multiplication of 2.5.
@@ashimbeast4732 sheesh, ait, still even if you multiply 2.5 with 2.5 and 4.3 gigatons, you’re still gonna get 6.25 x 4.3, which would make 26 gigatons, Deku still claps Sukuna regardless
Not the verse but many of em
Gojo wins by hax
"characters that are relativistic ot ftl are technically shifting reality" Oh my god that actually made me mad and click off the video😂 I swear mha fans are some of the most annoying people fandom and power scaling. Not talking about you. I know not many people know this but when GoJo was released he caused an earthquake all over Japan, he could kill every person in Japan, his power is a threat to countries and the fact that JoJo's power has literally been stated to be able to power America for a year which would make him higher than country and and by that extension also yuta and sukuna. Also reacting to Hollow purple makes them FTL considering its added Mass or imaginary Mass
Literally every one of those feats have been debunked
What FTL when a literal plant can dodge it. Sukuna couldn't even catch up to red in ch 235 and needed to use piercing because of how far he is. There's nothing in JJK that has FTL feat.
@@muhammadsyazwanarif3010 Hakari reacting and slightly dodging an electric blast, not FTL, but Gojo, Sukuna, Yuta and others are faster