Having just wired up one of my Mackie 8 bus mixers and all my rackmount gear to 5 patch bays, and I still have two other mixers to patch in, this gave me moderate anxiety, but I still appreciate seeing patch bays being wired up and used
OMG, audio routing is so much a pain in the neck. The More I look at patch bay videos, the more I get confused. I just got a patch bay myself, I need to stop watching and start experimenting connections - I hope, I will not blow out the studio. Is there actually a risk in doing it wrong and destroying the gear, causing some short circuits or so?
@@ZipSnipe 6:30 you have phantom power on patch bay - those are for mics that need phantom, right? What you say is, if I patch a gear that do not need phantom, correct? What happens then, just to know?
Have you considered looking at investing into AoIP based interfaces like AVB or Dante? Both the MOTU AVB and Focusrite Red and RedNet Dante interfaces offers a unique feature called Routing Matrix, basically a virtual patch bay routing grid that can be done entirely digitally via the control app software which eliminates the need of a physical hardware patch bay and messy cables. I have the MOTU 828ES interface and I can do all the patching internally without touching a single cable.
@@nana-ld4cr still need to make mic connections via xlr, trs, TT, ethercon.etc I have ethercon 4 channel snakes from my live room and iso vox room to xlr console feeds The software allows itb and external hardware I/o routing without the external patch cables, everything is all ready cabled and can be changed on the screen So mic/intrument Hiz, xlr cables into a snake/console/interface Internal software routing for compressors, EQs, Fx, ect. Cabling out to servo/monitor Powered monitor Live room headphone amp Or secondary mixing, mastering or broadcast accommodations I use a hybrid as a complete digital option can be costly also my setup has been in place a long time so I only add things that will increase workflow and pay itself off Or is far superior in audio quality but this is usually not the case
What about the connections to the back of the digital interface? Are they combo jacks? If so, are you connecting them with TRS or XLR and are those combo jacks serving as both mic pre-amp and line in? I really like to know. If they are not, how would you use those types of jacks. Thank you for the video.
I don't understand the "Split" at the @13:45 time mark... If you patch the connection to another chain, then why isn't it completely cutoff from continuing it's original path? I believe you, I just don't understand.
Hi Ryan! This video is so informative. Starting to grasp the concept of the patchbay slowly but surely lol. I do have a question... i'm trying to incorporate some hardware compressors with my setup. my interface is just for recording as of right now. i'm using 8 external pres to record with my 8 analog ins and 8 analog outs interface (apollo x8p). I usually just connect them to its 8 XLR ins but it does have DB25 ins and DB25 outs. Let's say I want to incorporate 4 stereo compressors, is it possible to route them in a way using patchbays that i won't need to plug/unplug my external mic pres when i'm about to record or use the compressors for mixing? Cuz they still go only in those 8 analog ins right? But is it possible to like maybe jump around using patchbays? To my understanding that's how you have it set up right? sorry if it's a bit confusing!
If I just want to connect a few different mics and hardware preamps / compressors to the patchbay, where do all the cables go in the back of the patchbay?
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Having just wired up one of my Mackie 8 bus mixers and all my rackmount gear to 5 patch bays, and I still have two other mixers to patch in, this gave me moderate anxiety, but I still appreciate seeing patch bays being wired up and used
OMG, audio routing is so much a pain in the neck. The More I look at patch bay videos, the more I get confused. I just got a patch bay myself, I need to stop watching and start experimenting connections - I hope, I will not blow out the studio. Is there actually a risk in doing it wrong and destroying the gear, causing some short circuits or so?
If you patch into 48 V phantom powered jack
@@ZipSnipe 6:30 you have phantom power on patch bay - those are for mics that need phantom, right? What you say is, if I patch a gear that do not need phantom, correct? What happens then, just to know?
Bye bye 🎤 (potentially)
Great info here. I did get your Using Outboard Gear course too. One quick question here, how did you make your patch bay labels?
How are you normalled or HM down from separate bay to lower separate bay 12:39
The boxes don’t look connected but maybe it is a 2U box?
Have you considered looking at investing into AoIP based interfaces like AVB or Dante? Both the MOTU AVB and Focusrite Red and RedNet Dante interfaces offers a unique feature called Routing Matrix, basically a virtual patch bay routing grid that can be done entirely digitally via the control app software which eliminates the need of a physical hardware patch bay and messy cables. I have the MOTU 828ES interface and I can do all the patching internally without touching a single cable.
What do you use instead of a snake using AVB or Dante?
@@nana-ld4cr
still need to make mic connections via xlr, trs, TT, ethercon.etc
I have ethercon 4 channel snakes from my live room and iso vox room to xlr console feeds
The software allows itb and external hardware
I/o routing without the external patch cables, everything is all ready cabled and can be changed on the screen
So mic/intrument
Hiz, xlr cables into a snake/console/interface
Internal software routing for compressors, EQs, Fx, ect.
Cabling out to servo/monitor
Powered monitor
Live room headphone amp
Or secondary mixing, mastering or broadcast accommodations
I use a hybrid as a complete digital option can be costly also my setup has been in place a long time so I only add things that will increase workflow and pay itself off
Or is far superior in audio quality but this is usually not the case
For mixing with outboard I wonder what the pros and cons are of having a patchbay vs connecting each piece of gear to an interface?
More versatile with a patch bay.
I know Justin Kollars! That’s so crazy!
What about the connections to the back of the digital interface? Are they combo jacks? If so, are you connecting them with TRS or XLR and are those combo jacks serving as both mic pre-amp and line in? I really like to know. If they are not, how would you use those types of jacks. Thank you for the video.
That was helpful, thanks a lot!!
I don't understand the "Split" at the @13:45 time mark... If you patch the connection to another chain, then why isn't it completely cutoff from continuing it's original path?
I believe you, I just don't understand.
Hi Ryan! This video is so informative. Starting to grasp the concept of the patchbay slowly but surely lol. I do have a question... i'm trying to incorporate some hardware compressors with my setup. my interface is just for recording as of right now. i'm using 8 external pres to record with my 8 analog ins and 8 analog outs interface (apollo x8p). I usually just connect them to its 8 XLR ins but it does have DB25 ins and DB25 outs. Let's say I want to incorporate 4 stereo compressors, is it possible to route them in a way using patchbays that i won't need to plug/unplug my external mic pres when i'm about to record or use the compressors for mixing? Cuz they still go only in those 8 analog ins right? But is it possible to like maybe jump around using patchbays? To my understanding that's how you have it set up right? sorry if it's a bit confusing!
Is that a Neil Young poster in the back at the end?
If I just want to connect a few different mics and hardware preamps / compressors to the patchbay, where do all the cables go in the back of the patchbay?
How are you integrating your desk into your setup? I’ve got an A&H ML3000 and have been messing with a bunch of different ways.
hi, how did you build the PAD?
I don't know what a "snake" is in audio terms... And at this point I'm too afraid to ask.
Google? takes 2 seconds.
Ha'!