The Amish Dilemma
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- Опубликовано: 11 июн 2024
- Three generations of Amish make a rare decision to tell their stories after months of reflection and debate with their pastors. How can they live between an ancestral ideology and a civilization of consumption pushed to the extreme? This documentary raises questions about the notion of individual freedom, belonging to a minority, economic and social norms, as well as the place of women.
Director : Mélanie Van Der Ender 
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Diese KI- Sprecher sind furchtbar😮
Ohne Ton zuschauen und nur mitlesen hilft gegen diese "dumme KI" ....zwar ein Widerspruch in sich, aber wahr.
Absolut.😳 Das ruiniert die komplette Doku
Ich hätte es gern geguckt, aber die Sprecher gehen leider gar nicht .
KI halt, ja, unangenehm zuzuhören.
KI ...... total bescheuert
Mei serntezeit😂
Here, in El Salvador, there's a Christian denomination similar to the Amish community. They are called: "Apostoles y Profetas" (Apostles and Prophets). Actually, they're a community oriented church. They're so strict with their rules and laws: the way they dress up: woman clothing are just like Amish dresses, exactly the same; men are similar: they use long sleeve shirts, and always dress formal.
But they allow technology and cars. Another thing that they do like the Amish denomination, is that: they stop going to school at 9th grade, and dedicate their life to run their own business.
They are no perfect, like any other Christians: but the way they fear GOD, and the way they try to obey GOD`s law, is the way that make them a Blessed Community (GOD bless them so much, in all the ways of life). I'm already a Christian, but I'm thinking to join their church and community (They allow anyone in, and they have no problem of any age or if i`m a professional with an Architect degree). They`re focused on preaching the Gospel and to bring newcomers into the Christian life. I call them: "The moral reserve of Christian Church".
May GOD Bless us all. GOD Bless America.
C'est un reportage que j'ai déjà vu donc je réitère mon observation à savoir que c'est une belle idée de vivre loin de ce monde cruel mais le gros problème, toujours le même, est que les femmes sont toujours sous-estimées et doivent être serviables. Si ils étaient égaux hommes et femme ce serait une société parfaite.
"L'égalité"; cela ne veut rien dire; L'état de la socièté moderne en est la preuve.Echec total de la société de consommation.
rien n'est égal sur Terre, tout est différent..Acceptez la différence est la base de la vie.
Elle nous fait évoluer dans le bon sens. La société marche sur la tête en inversant les valeurs.
Your opinion is Bullshit . even man and woman have they same rights they failed in thier life
Les enfants n'ont aucune éducation, ils ne connaissent rien du monde, rien des uns et des autres, rien en maths, lecture, sciences, technologies, c'est une société profondément raciste et lgbtphobe. Rien d'idéal.
Ils sont égaux dans leur différence.
J'ai l'impression surtout que ce reportage interroge des femmes Amish qui ne sont pas en accord avec leurs principes et qui, peut-être choisissent de continuer parce qu'elles aiment leur mari ou pour une autre raison, mais je ne crois pas qu'ils pensent que les femmes sont inférieures aux hommes.
Ja ich kònnte so nicht leben aber ein super Zusammenhalt das finde ich schòn
wenn du von Geburt an so lebst schon haha xD
What's wrong with washing machines?? People create obstacles for themselves and heroically overcome them)
And the "mens work" seems to have relatively modern tools using solar power. We had a wringer washer when I was a kid in the 1960's it took a long time, and the wringers were dangerous, my sister broke her arm helping mom.
Thank you for that Doco, I enjoyed it very much 🙏
Für mich sind es Menschen ,die grosse Angst vor ihren eigenen Schwächen haben und deshalb sich und ihre Kinder wie unter Kontrollsucht halten... wenn ich mein Kind gut begleitet habe ins Leben,kann ich ihm auch gestatten,die sogenannten Versuchungen kennenzulernen und vertraue darauf,dass es richtig für sich entscheiden wird... dass alles hier ist der Versuch Kontrolle zu behalten und Misstrauen,sich selbst gegenüber
The wise man is he who despite surrounded by good , bad, beauty , ugliness, happy , sorrow etc not affected by the duality. Not by running away from the ever changing world. (Sanatana Dharma teachings)
We know you worship him: *Rig Veda 10.23.4* "With him is this rains: Indra throws drops of moisture on his yellow beard"
*Rig Veda 1.100.18* “Indra attacked the Dasyus and the Śimyus; won the land, sunlight, and water with his white-complexioned friends”
*Rig Veda 1.130.8* “Indra defends his Ārya worshiper. He consumes the malignant; he tore off the b_______ skin; and him who delights in cruelty.”
*Rig Veda 2.20.7* “Indra, the slayer of Vṛtra, destroyer of cities scattered the b______-sprung servile.”
*Rig Veda 9.73.5* “They have burned up riteless men, Blowing away the b______ skin which Indra hates.”
Хорошие люди!!!Благослови их Господь!!!
Peculiar.
obrigada pela reportagem , muito bom esse modo de viver , tem paz de Deus
Our culture works best when we question nothing and accept everything we are told. Christian North Korea.
Human mind creates it's world. Many minds in agreement form a group. This agreement requires continual reinforcement. Church, cultures, military, cults, politics, countries.
Ça ça s'appelle de la soumission.
@@AGPO4468Non...chacun est libre de choisir
@@pascalemayne9518 Quand on interdit on est pas libre de choisir par définition.
@@AGPO4468 Alors je ne sais pas où vous vivez...mais tous les jours les gens s ingénient à faire le contraire de ce qui est interdit....(p.ex: GSM en conduisant) et ce n est qu un exemple. Pas anodin bien sûr vu les conséquences dramatiques parfois.
Verstehe ich das richtig? Anschluss an das Stromnetz ist tabu, aber Solarpanele und Dieselgeneratoren sind erlaubt? Warum????
The women have to use old applainces from the 1950's. But those tools for furniture making are quite modern, 20:00 a electric palm sander neumatic tools, and a forklift 20:56
The farmer's equipment was also fro, the 1950s. Perhaps the furniture factory is what brings in the most money and takes care of the poorer of the community? I find the contradictions more disturbing - no electricity or washing machines, but a computer and a telephone to be able to run the business? if it is ok to accept a computer out of necessity, then washing machines and farming equipment need to be accepted too, and nothing to do with gender, just consistency.
@@annerigby4400 amen
@@annerigby4400 amen!!!
Personally I think our greatest invention was the electric washing machine.. it changed womens' lives FOREVER !! We were finally set free to do more than just spend all week washing and drying clothes and linen! 😮
I could happily live without a mobile phone or computers, but don't take my washing machine 😢😅
@@catshez Actually, at least where I'm from, women didn't spend all week washing and drying simply because they didn't have the amount of clothes that would have required that, or the time to spend washing every day. They had one day every week where they went to the public laundry place (a covered place with a large basin of moving water and a large kettle to boil clothes). The wealthier people with more clothes used the services of a washer woman. Also keep in mind that in the past, not all clothes got washed. Think dry cleaning nowadays but done differently - spot checking and alcohol, for instance. So, I agree that the washing machine is a great tool but it is also what allows us to have ridiculous amounts of wear-once cheap clothes and waste massive amounts of water in the process.
this video made me very sad. The sect where children have to wear black and the whole life is centered around preventin g falling into temptation is evil. Truly evil. At the end, the old folks having fun in Florida seem to have learned something but it is not for the young ones at home. So sad.
I'd love to have the Amish as neighbors and buy their vegetables, pies, furniture, construction work . . . rather than Redneck/Hillbilly Baptists/Evangelicals. And do get me started with Meccans and Medinans.
Ich würde mit denen sehr gern tauschen bei den Dingen, die ich in meinem ehemals schönen Land erleben muss.
Kein Auto, kein Strom pp., aber mit Plastik haben sie keine Berührungsängste?
So eine Kommentar hätte nur aus Deutschland kommen können keine Sorge ihr rettet die Welt 😅
@@PelinBakir Totschlagargumentierer?
@@PelinBakir Warum sollte ich? Das ist ein Job für Hilfsarbeiter ohne nennenswerte Kenntnisse. Dazu zähle ich nicht.
So ganz scheinen sie aber die EInflüsse der Moderne nicht abzulehnen.
Die Brillen sehen recht aktuell aus. Und jemand muß sie ihnen anpassen - Nutzung der Kenntnisse der Physik (Optik). Kunststoffe (Spielzeug, Verpackungsmaterial), morderne Kinderwagen, Schreibuntensilien waren nicht genau zu erkennen, sahen aber auch nicht nach Federkiel aus, ...
Die Mode hat sich seit dem 19. Jh nicht verändert. - Hm, aber bis dahin anscheinend doch, denn die Religionsgemeinschaft ist älter. Hat da jemand ein Machtwort gesprochen?
Aber diese Gemeinschaften können sicher nur in ziemlicher Abschottung so überleben. Sonst würden viele den Verlockungen der Moderne erliegen. Im Guten wie im Schlechten.
A part of me doesn't understand why they need to shun things like electricity, which could make their lives easier. I think they seem a bit obsessed with temptation and sin. What is wrong with music? What is wrong with colorful clothing?
I agree
Est-ce une idée pire de se mettre à l'écart de la modernité par réaction aux persécutions plutôt que de vivre surarmé et d'avoir la haine contre les voisins ? Pour l'égalité hommes-femmes je suis d'accord et malheureusement cette égalité est loin d'être une réalité à travers le monde, ni même un idéal à atteindre partagé par tous. Quant à l'individualisme. . On sait que ce qu'il donne poussé à l'extrême. Ce refus de la modernité est manque de confiance en eux-mêmes, trouver un équilibre n'est pas si difficile.
It reminds me to Jehovas Witnesses …
Every extreme Religion arent good for the people.
Poor kids who are born in Religions like this…
Danke für den beitrag!
die KI - stimme ☹️
A fascinating video….
I can see the logic of only allowing technology that you absolutely have to. Submission of individuality to a common cause makes sense if you are on spiritual path to unity/God. If not then "it's putting the cart before the horse"...sorry for the pun.
Le style de vie reste le choix de chacun...religieux où pas,l'argent reste le but ...une communauté extrémiste qui ne survivrait pas juste avec des ressources non pécuniaires dans le monde actuel.
Tu essayes de te raconter des histoires. Cette communauté a survécu dans des conditions bien plus difficiles que le monde moderne. C'est seulement si les gens superficiels du monde actuel voulaient les empêcher de vivre qu'ils auraient des difficultés.
Toi, tu as besoin du monde moderne pour survivre. Eux n'ont besoin de rien.
Thank you for this video .
❤ Amish People God
What worries me is whether these men living in such a rude way are really good men who don't rob their wives and children. Living in simplicity does not mean being humble and being a person.
I admire the community aspect, as well as thr informal education.
🔥Pure ADMIRABLE WISE PPL!.....Bravo!
Sir how you protect the family from burgarlars, robbers without wepons
Burglars like to steal electronics and shit. Stuff that you can easily sell. How do you sell a horse cart or a 1950s Washing machine ?
Anything can be a weapon. Even a pillow..
And those houses and barns are filled with heavy & sharp objects. When you don't have powetools you need a big sharp blade..
And they have power in numbers, their community members..
Most of the world's civilians live without GUNS, 120,000 men women and children are shot every year in the u.s.a,mainly thanks to the second amendment, ...😅😅😅
Il n'y a rien d'intéressant à voler chez cette communauté.
Pensez-vous qu'à travers le monde, chacun possède une arme chez soi ?
What??? what burglars? what robbers? who would burglar or rob an Amish home? what would they take? If you live simply and don't have unnecessary luxuries, then there is nothing of any interest to the kind of people who take from others. Think a bit! Have you always been this frightened?
Ça dit que leur vie est toute tracée et c'est vrai, mais de notre côté aussi nos vies sont tracées. Je pense qu'il nous est tout aussi difficile de quitter nos vies actuelles que pour eux.
Yes but belonging to a big family makes life easier.....if you can stand it.
Die Zugehörigkeit ist ein Muss.Ein freiwilliger Zwang!
Et chez les "Schwarzentruber", le savon est liquide dans un flacon en plastique .-)
these cults make me shiver! with horror
Eu errei muito na vida e um desses erros vieram por falta de disciplina familiar...Hj tenho 2 filhos, sou mãe solo( não me orgulho disso)...Acho sim q mulher tem suas vestias próprias e homens tb...A tecnologia se bem usada serve p aprendermos mas sabemos q a modernidade, a Tecnologia é mais usada p futilidade do q p aperfeiçoamento( manter a tradição é importante sim)
Thankyou for that interesting video. I knew nothing about the Amish. We have similar sects in Australia, but they are not called Amish. 🌺🦘
Não usam máquinas modernas??? 😂😂😂 Não foi o que eu vi.... 😏 Os móveis todos feitos com máquinas elétricas e ganham MUITO dinheiro. Que treta.
Avec une génératrice au diésel ! Si vous aviez écouté au lieu de juger...
Ich dachte was für eine Stimme aber ist doch voll in Ordnung
I wonder what do Amish people think of nuns? For us regular people nuns are the closest to god bc of their lifestyle. However for Amish people they believe their lifestyles is the closest to god. For example: nuns don’t have any children bc they’re married to god. Amish people on the other hand have often familie of 7-11 children bc the more children the close you are to god they believe. Idk I just thought about it.
The Amish don't allow people of colour into their communities. Yet, God created all humans into His own image. How can they be the closest to God, when they are so racist?
A luta contra a modernidade parece que não está dando certo....
Ils fabriquent eux-mêmes les verres de leurs lunettes ?
Die Frage war gut! Also zum Optiker gehen sie hin aber Arzt dürfen sie nicht werden. Sehr kurios.
@@ginalaengrich5298 ben c'est pas parce que tu vas chez le médecin que tu vas vouloir devenir médecin, c'est bizarre comme façon de penser.
Vous allez chez le coiffeur ? C'est pas pour autant que vous voudrez devenir coiffeur...
Ich wünschte, ich hätte dieses Wissen und Umsetzungsmöglichkeiten ohne Strom und Wasser aus der Wasserleitung usw zu leben. Es wird immer wichtiger und hier immer verbotener, denke ich
아뮈쉬 존경하지만 전기덕분에 저도 아미쉬를 알게되는건데 머가 맞는지 모르겟습니다
Dans l'ancien testament, David jouait des instruments....
I wish I'd been born Amish - our society is sick compared to theirs
28:30 there is an amish cat ❤
I saw him too :) He's gorgeous!
I don't get why these kind of rules in Amish community?
Religion..
Because they don't want to end up with blue haired people and men in dresses like in our 'normal' society.
Im the 1st one to comment
Im an entrepreneur and one day i would wosh to board an aeroplane to france ❤❤
Why🤔🤔🤔?
Come come and drink the nice wine and eat the perfect dishes. Come and experience France
Warum die K1 Stimmer ?
Weil die extrem weniger kostet, als ein menschlicher Sprecher.
Alles nur ein Kostenfaktor. Echt traurig.
A woman is not alowd to use a elektic waschmaschien but a man can use elektric tool's ? Why? 🤔🤔🤔
Gleichberechtigung gilt anscheinend nur für die Männer. Da werden die Augen zugegriffen. Und warum? Weil durch die moderne Elektrizität mehr Umsatz in finanziellen Mitteln gemacht werden kann. Ja die Gleichberechtigung trägt Hosen und Hosenträger.
Bonjour, ils vivent 10 fois plus à l'aise que la soit-disant civilisation. Depuis Abidjan côte d'voire !
SZALOM ALEICHEM AH DZIECI DZISIAJ DWUDZIESTEGO CZWARTEGO DNIA TEGO MIESIĄCA JA KAZIMIERZ TRZYNASTY UCZEŃ PANA MEGO I RABBIEGO JEZUSA CHRYSTUSA OTO DZISIAJ STOJĘ PRZED WASZYMI DRZWIAMI I KOŁACZE CZY PRZYJMIECIE MNIE??? AH DZIECI W TYCH DNIACH OSTATNICH Z WOLI PANA MEGO I RABBIEGO JEZUSA CHRYSTUSA PRZYSZEDŁEM ODNOWIĆ WASZĄ WIARĘ I ODBUDOWAĆ NADZIEJĘ ISRAELA AH DZIECI JESTEM POSŁAŃCEM PANA MEGO I WASZEGO CZY PRZYJMIECIE MNIE ??? CZEKAM NA WASZE TAK LUB NIE AMEN
c mieux pour eux une vie simple sans stress, j,aimerait bien être avec eux
Wow these Amish community people's are amazing 👏 sir does any Amish boy or girl service in U,S military is that allows in Amish community 🤔
Of Slavic & German decent... In many ways I respect the simplicity & ingenuity of these people yet it shows what too much belief does and keeps people backward... Where lack of any belief condemns humanity to lack of certain insights ... Balance please.... Also they the ultimate preppers😅
slavic?? lol no
@@funkmachine9094 Are you referring to the Amish ?
Homem domina homem para o seu prejuízo
Les machines mécanique c'est pas tres amish.
Et pour la machine a coudre ma grand mère a tj utilisée une machine manuelle donc! Mouai
Amei ,não sabia deste povo .❤
Pleasing that they see womens work as work, and women are therefore able to use washing machines and sewing machines.
they control and isolate them
Acho que mais parece conveniência. 😢
Bis auf die Bärte der Männer is das voll okay so wie das ist. Bärte ab u. jeder Mann trägt Bart in verschiedenen Formen u. Arten so wie er mag (u. seine Frau das mag).
Pas de mixité imaginez quils auraient envie de forniquer.
Tu as totalement raison
intrusion of modernity - why do they have plastics? A ball? clothes and shoes produced in massive companies, why do they buy so much food? It is completely possible to live out of your own grown things and process it yourself. (I know they grow a lot, but not everything).. I have so many genuine questions - I do not mean to argue but I would love to have a discussion with an Amish person regarding this to gain a bit of more understanding
I had a reaction seeing the plastic items too. I think their community is in constant conflict with what should or should not be allowed balanced against what is perceived as necessary or not. It seems to me that if a community wants to claim to live without change since the early 18th C then they should. Otherwise, their children should have the option for those who want to, of getting a higher education. When I visited a 'Pennsylvania "Dutch"" region, I was confused to see shop keepers using computers and some of the traditionally-dressed people with cell phones. I had a passing thought that actually it's not a bad idea to have everyone in a community carry on dressing a certain way, look like they're living as in the past, and make a living from tourists and tourist goods and foods from people who come to see what they look like. As always in any human environment, there will be those who stick to the rules and those who bend them. What I don't understand is when it was said about the farmer that he used this or that because of the competition. What competition? do they sell their farmed goods on the national markets? if yes, then why not have the modern equipment. I don't think the diesel engines he was using were around in the early 18th C, so why not just use modern and more efficient machinery? It seems to be more a matter of fearing modernity because it is called modern. A computer??? that is the conduit to world society! all the good, the bad, the best, the worse.....
@@annerigby4400thanks a lot for the comment! I absolutely agree with you and as much as I respect different communities, some of the rules are bent just for their own benefit no matter the logic behind it. Most of the rules do not make sense and seem to be rather shallow and restrictive towards education. It looks like they fear higher education because the kids would see more sense in certain things and might leave the community so that is why they are not allowed education and must work at home because it is supposed to be like that. But why? Some questions would still remain unanswered in a logical way…
what a trip
weniger KI wäre angenehmer zu zuhören und zu schauen ist sehr sehr antrengend und macht kopfschmerzen
Sie machen jetzt schon Zugeständnisse, es werden mehr 😮.....😅
Seems like beautiful life!
They're beating a dead horse
aren't they dutch as well??
Their religion is Dutch, but we no longer have any of its followers. The Amish are 'Mennonites': followers of religious cult created by Menno Simons (Minne Siemens in Frisian) The leader came from Frisia, a province in the Netherlands. They fled religious persecution and went on to work and build typical Dutch settlements in the east of Europe, like in Poland (Gdańsk).
So yes their religion is of Frisian/Dutch origin, and its followers are the friends they made along the way, lol.
They are called Pennsylvania dutch, but the word dutch come from the wrong way of saying deutsch.
Похоже на секту.
La secte c'est la société qu'on vous impose ! Ne vous trompez pas d'ennemi.
Technology will destroy humanity's mind and healthy lifestyle...
Przez to ze tak żyją, czesto patologie środowiskowe są na poziomie XX wieku.... wiele osob tam nie jest szczesliwych i chcieli by odejsc ale są zastraszani i nie znaja inneho zycia
L'hypocrisie d'une secte parmi tant d'autres que l'on nous présente dans un reportage qui survole le sujet façon petite maison dans la prairie.
Und ? Leben Sie besser?
@@stefanie2541 Voilez vous la face si cela vous chante.
i think pete is cool
Progrediscono come vogliono loro, il computer ce l'hanno🤔🤌🏻
Eine ruhige, sichere Welt. Würde gerne mal eine Zeit lang dort leben.sichere Werte🙏
Wohl eher nicht
"L'église ne l'aurorise pas à utiliser un lave-linge moderne"... Je ne peux plus continuer à regarder, c'est trop pour moi.
Computador pra fazer dinheiro pode ,mas uma máquina de lavar não ,kkkkk me poupe ignorantes
En cas de fin du monde, je m'installe chez eux.
armselige Computerstimme ....KI
J'aime cette vie simple.. mais à mon sens, trop de bible.. je ne suis pas contre.. mais consanguinité.. pas d'études supérieures.. où vont-ils se soigner.? Après ce sont leur concept et la loi leur permet.. qu'ils continuent à vivre en paix... même si je ne comprends pas tout 😅😊
Vielleicht wäre die Doku inhaltlich sogar interessant, aber die erklärenden Sprechpassagen sind einfach furchtbar... oder zumindest sind sie für mich unerträglich.
i like This way of life one love ❤
Et ce n'est pas parce qu'on utilise une machine à laver qu'on risque de se détourner de Dieu. Il est là, partout et nous désire libres, responsables. Ils n'ont pas les mêmes scrupules vis-à-vis de l'argent que vis-à-vis de la modernité.
Unfortunately most of them are not Christians, they are not saved according to the Bible, that teaches that we are saved by grace. They live by rules and they can't save you, that's what religion never can. That's very tragical.
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Ihr solltet mal Eure KI darauf programmieren englisch auf deutsch zu übersetzen; so wie die hier redet, halte ich das im Kopf nicht aus...
„Unsere Sozialwissenschaften basieren auf biblischen Prinzipien“…
Auge um Auge, Zahn um Zahn?
Liebe deinen Nächsten wie dich selbst.
04:37 ... ils refusent toutes intrusion de la modernité........... mais 2 sc après il y'a quand même les glaces et pizzas qui ne sont surement pas fabriquées "maison" 😅
Les lunettes, glaces, pizzas ne date pas du début du 20eme siècle, du moment que c'est inventé avant la colonisation de l'Amérique ils y ont droit
🙃🙃🙃🙃🤕🤕🤕🤕😂😂😂😂
En même temps la théorie de l' évolution porte bien son nom . C'est une théorie et ce n'est pas un fait prouvé !!!
Die KI Sprache ist fürchterlich!😢
Ignorantes, não tem nada disso na Bíblia
Sont nuls les mecs à Hollywood!....Le monde collapse!...Tu vas voir ton pote amish ;)
Tu descends dans la cave surtout!....Mais tu chopes de quoi boire avant.
Wie schlecht kann man denn lesen? Da kriegt man ja Ohrenschmerzen
Guten Morgen,
es handelt sich um KI.
sorry muss abbrechen ist echt anstrengend und nicht Menschlicht nur noch kopfschmerzen hätte gerne weiter geschaut .....
Mereka Kristen yg menolak berperang...tidak seperti katolik,yahudi dan islam
Macht mal so wie die Amisch !
Ihr Weicheier ,da könnte mal auch was lernen. Hart aber vielleicht Erfüllend . Sie sind auch im Umbruch . Die Stimme
der Doku ist sehr Grüngesteuert .
So.. All women have extremely hairy armpits?
hairy box also
Yes ! Exciting! Isn’t it ?
I want to join Amish