100% powers granted by Imu we only got their Yokai names not fruit names would be kinda weird if we get the reveals later not at the perfect moment "back then"
Exactly, Marco isn't introduced as the pheonix or kaido as dragon They're mentioned as the users of the bird bird fruit mythical model pheonix and fish fish fruit mythical model azure dragon
@@ranjitschmid1993yeah, on top of making a story that’s been ongoing for 25 years, choreographing fights, constantly having to think of new and unique abilities to prevent the story from getting stale and now that the story’s getting close to it’s end he’s putting in overtime to pay off all of the stuff he’s set up
Jupiter’s devil form could also have taken inspiration from the Mongolian Deathworm. Another thing I want to point out is the design of Jupiter’s devil form may have been influenced by Monstro from Disney’s adaptation of Pinnochio. Even down to the habit of swallowing people whole.
Now that i think about it, it makes perfect sense that haki is stronger than devilfruit powers. If df powers are the manifestation of someone’s dreams and haki the manifestation of willpower, one’s own willpower to make their abmitions reality should be stronger than relying on dreamspowers, which may have not even been your own dreams coming true in df roulette. Does this make sense to any one else?
Yes, but no. This makes it an argument of willpower versus the power of someone's dreams. Which opens a whole new level of discussion. Plus, ones dreams can easily be (and often are) bigger/stronger than one's ambition. In universe or not
Maybe it could also explain DF awakenings. When will power (haki) and dream power (DF), have almost the same or aligning purpose, that's when awakening happens 😅
As I understand Dunes sand worm is based on mythical blood worm from Mongolia in 1920's named Olgoy Chorchoy. So this may be a combination of both things
@@EndlessSpirals All Gorosei have Mythical Zoans based on traditional Japanese Yokai, except for Sheperd Ju Peter who is based on the Dune worm, his transformation also doesn't include his scar
The real-life sand worm is a monster of Mongolian myth, the Olgoi-khorkhoi, more commonly/simply known as the Mongolian Death Worm. It's listed as a modern day cryptid as people think it still hunts under the sands of the Gobi Desert.
The gorosei and oda never said they have devil fruits whenever a devil fruit is shown we get a fruit name and the model we never got that we got demon name and the giants said there is no race or power heard of like that
That would make them too op tho? I mean luffy can barely stay in gear 5. If the 5 elders are that strong then what abt the god knights an imu? That’d be too op for a luffy who gets gassed in 20 min of fighting
I think they are all immortal,I think they all have had the Ope Ope No Mi Immortal surgery that's why they were so batshit crazy over finding that fruit at all cost once it respawned, and now they're all Immortal at least aging wise so they wanted to find the fruit again so no one else could get the same procedure and try to stop their plans 1,000 % sure on this I could be wrong but I just have this feeling.
Its kinda ironic that their demon forms might be coming from how they probably see the rest of the world as. since: one a spider that see people as insects ones a bird that sees people as having birds for brains (aka dumb) ones a worm that sees people as lowly worms ones a boar that sees people as filthy pigs ones a horse that sees people as dumbasses
I think that’s the case if your fruits animal species is different from yours, since luffy is human and ate a human model fruit I think it automatically put him into a hybrid form by default
Alternatively from my previous comment maybe luffy after eating the fruit transformed but not noticing that and not realizing he wasn’t in his normal body just kinda stuck with it and never realized the truth. This could mean his various gears are similar in nature to choppers rumble forms where it is a “transformation” but it’s not his proper base/hybrid/zoan forms in play.
Jupiter powers likely come from the mongolian sand worm. As such, each gorosei likely as a dangerous legendary monster from east asia countries (japan, china, mongolia, korea, vietnam)
Hate that everyone still thinks these are devil fruits, these are 100% not devil fruits and powers from imu, they can do things even experienced devil fruit users cannot do and plus take a haki hit better then even kaido
I’m ngl. I feel like for some reason right, we gonna get to the point in this arc where shanks might actually show up last second when something is about to happen such as the escape not working. If not any power such as that idk how the whole gang is getting off the island unless some sacrifice(s) are made
plost twist im saving this and calling it now imu is the water devil fruit user and the earth god. i could imagine if imu is derragned enough to want the whole world he would definitely want to be called the earth god and make his devil fruit the most busted thing in the world just like blackbeard.
What’s odd to me is that Mihawk is apparently the “greatest swordsman to ever live” but then you have one of the 5 elders who is also a swordsman- so is he the best or mihawk?! I expect the elder guy is but still
So we now know who defeated kiado in the past, seven enemies were mentioned on kiados introduction as he jump off of sky piea the four gorosei ,imu, rogger,and saint furgerland shanks grandfather oh and gear fifth luffy
The source if the gorosei power will be the source of devil fruits. And they will end up having the traits of ALL devil fruit categories. That's why i think when he's hit its like a logia but he's clearly in zoen form.
I was thinking what if they are nightmares. Think of it Imu is the opposite of Nika. Nika's powers are based off imagination and dreams. Imu having the powers of nightmares would line up as a foil to Nika powers. Also, we are assuming the devil fruits were yokai based ones what if they were nightmare constructs of Imu and were giving human based devil fruits. We saw how Kanjiro could make semi sentient sketches. What if Imu created these nightmares, gave them human based devil fruits, they would then have nightmare powers. Like crazy regeneration, teleportation, and being dreams can make peoples head explode as they attack the subconscious of the weak willed. As for their haki it could be a portion of Imu's since they are his constructs. And since inanimate objects can eat devil fruits constructs should be able to. Thoughts?
I wish I could find and post all the comments where ppl said that the gorosei were weak like spamda and I was one of the few that said no way were the gorosei weak and wait till you see their power. Thank you ODA-sensei for proving me right
Outta all the 5 elders Jupiter and Mars are the only two elders that I don't hate as much, still hate them but not as much as Saturn, Nusjuro, and Walrus face.
I said it from the begining that the gorosei were a devil race once saturn first transformed i also said that i think BlackBeard and Nico Robin is also part of this devil race thats why we havent seen robin throughout this arc and when she defeated Maria Robin used her devil form but we didnt see what she realy looks like caused once the gorosei would have been revealed we the readers would have piece it together
I think I know what mythical creature Ju Peters worm is based off: it's the Mongolian Death Worm, a fire breating worm like mythical creature which does tie in well with the rest of the Gorosei zoan fruits being based off Eastern asian mythological creatures.
Sand worm also comes from Mongolia they have a myth about it not called that but it conducts electricity like an eel to shock its prey and is an ambush predator
The sandworm is possibly inspired by a Mongolian mythological monster sadly I don’t remember its name. It’s said that it can exponentially grow so long as it lives and that its bite is venomous.
I think there have been different elders over the past 8 centuries. It would explain why they were unaware of the truth of Luffy's devil fruit. I think Imu only chooses Con-haki users from the celestial dragons to promote to elder then grants them a mythical demon-zoan power. It would explain why they don't expose themselves very often. They would be hard to replace.
There’s a Mongolian mythical creature called the Death Worm that inhabits the deserts of china and the greater Mongolian steppe. So I don’t think it’s a Dune reference
I can't believe you missed this. The Sandworms in Dune are based on a real Earth myth or legend. The Mongolian Death Worm. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mongolian_death_worm
Would you think Imu has some kind of reality power to create things from thin air? I got that vibe from Imu, or we would hear about the name of the Devil Fruit power from each Gorosei. Not gonna lie.
They haven't aged because of laws devil fruit. That's why it's so valuable m the "perpetual youth " grants immortality to whoever it's used upon but it kills the user. Imu monopolized this fruit to ensure they them and their followers would never die from age nor grow weaker.
Oda might have used actual myths for ju peter.. there are greek myths of 10 foot demon worms called skolex or horrible indian worms.. or the ghibli which is said to be a worm demon who resemble maggots who turn into demons
I think your on to something with ethanbaron. I do belive somewhere in history there was a English samurai. Actually it's also the plot of the movie The last Samurai. But it was American instead of English. To-may-to to-ma-to. Close enough. But there has to be something in history for it.
All of the strawhat will have luffys power as in nika power just like bonney. bonney posses that power earlier, is because she found her freedom at last and want to fight evil force. and presence of luffy
It's a Mongolian death worm from Mongolian mythology that could be where the creator of one piece got the idea from not from Dune. Since he's into creating characters devil fruit forms from mythology
Oda needs to take a break, Brody has been carrying the anime and manga world on his back for decades. Toriyama, kishimoto, and Kubo really helped but now... not to assume weakness... I just don't want Oda working himself to death.
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The sandworm originates from Mongolian mythology
@@Mehnir5427 ohh really coool
Itsumade was killed by a master archer… Sogekings return 👀😂
He's a sniper, not archer
@@Atwinkie-tk5ggThey’re both marksmen it’s not hard to see the parallel dude
wow.
Lark will kill him. He'll be Garlings son.
100% powers granted by Imu we only got their Yokai names not fruit names would be kinda weird if we get the reveals later not at the perfect moment "back then"
That's what I've been saying, Imu is busted.
Can't wait to see endgame Luffy fight them.
True its an extension of Imu power.
Maybe they were promised with these powers by imu if they submit their loyalty to him and also help him defeat joyboy.
Exactly, Marco isn't introduced as the pheonix or kaido as dragon
They're mentioned as the users of the bird bird fruit mythical model pheonix and fish fish fruit mythical model azure dragon
Why black flames then like zoans?
I don't blame Oda for a 3 week break after revealing these insane forms
if i could go on break after drawing and writing a few pictures per week....
@@ranjitschmid1993 oda has been grinding it everyday for longer than many ppl have been alive
@@ranjitschmid1993yeah, on top of making a story that’s been ongoing for 25 years, choreographing fights, constantly having to think of new and unique abilities to prevent the story from getting stale and now that the story’s getting close to it’s end he’s putting in overtime to pay off all of the stuff he’s set up
@@ranjitschmid1993 but you can't, so zip that mouth
Jupiter’s devil form could also have taken inspiration from the Mongolian Deathworm. Another thing I want to point out is the design of Jupiter’s devil form may have been influenced by Monstro from Disney’s adaptation of Pinnochio. Even down to the habit of swallowing people whole.
Your right
mars has definitely the best design in my opinion, he is the only one that looks truly scary and can fly. my favourite of all the 5
The 4 tusk boar low-key looks fire too
@@travisf7818 He would look even better if Oda gave him proper legs. Those legs he currently has look so goofy with the fat body.
Now that i think about it, it makes perfect sense that haki is stronger than devilfruit powers. If df powers are the manifestation of someone’s dreams and haki the manifestation of willpower, one’s own willpower to make their abmitions reality should be stronger than relying on dreamspowers, which may have not even been your own dreams coming true in df roulette. Does this make sense to any one else?
Yes
Yes, but no. This makes it an argument of willpower versus the power of someone's dreams. Which opens a whole new level of discussion. Plus, ones dreams can easily be (and often are) bigger/stronger than one's ambition. In universe or not
Maybe it could also explain DF awakenings. When will power (haki) and dream power (DF), have almost the same or aligning purpose, that's when awakening happens 😅
Thats mean human willpower is always superior above those devil.. Haki is a representation of human nature
Yup
The Sandworm isn't just from Dune funnily enough. It's a monster in Mongolian mythology too!
As I understand Dunes sand worm is based on mythical blood worm from Mongolia in 1920's named Olgoy Chorchoy. So this may be a combination of both things
I wonder if Dragon killed a Celestial and stole his Mythical Fruit.
That's why we have a Gorosei who is kind of the odd one out in a lot of regards.
Which one would be the odd one out?
@@EndlessSpirals All Gorosei have Mythical Zoans based on traditional Japanese Yokai, except for Sheperd Ju Peter who is based on the Dune worm, his transformation also doesn't include his scar
@TheNightVixen, i get your point but Dragon himself looks like he doesn't have a zoan. It's more like an elemental fruit. Lets see
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It's similar to the Millennium Items from Yugioh, when there's light there must be shadow.
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I feel like the sand worm is going to relate more to the Mongolian Death Worm myth.
The real-life sand worm is a monster of Mongolian myth, the Olgoi-khorkhoi, more commonly/simply known as the Mongolian Death Worm. It's listed as a modern day cryptid as people think it still hunts under the sands of the Gobi Desert.
Ayyyy, finally an explanation!
This is why there were never scared of shanks when he entered the room.😂
Theres gotta be some four horse men of the apocalypse here too Nusjuro definitely seems like the Pale Horse of pestilence
It was never said they have devil fruit abilities
Does this mean that there are other stages to Luffys 5th Gear and that he's only at stage 1 of 5th Gear.
Finally shedding some light on the Alaskan Bull Worm fruit.
The gorosei and oda never said they have devil fruits whenever a devil fruit is shown we get a fruit name and the model we never got that we got demon name and the giants said there is no race or power heard of like that
He keeps saying awakened zoan devil fruits. But almost everybody in the community is convinced these are not devil fruits. These are just devils.
I think ODA formally stated these transformations ARE NOT DEVIL FRUIT POWERS
look it up
Some people keep on saying their devil fruit user but chapter say otherwise lol
That would make them too op tho? I mean luffy can barely stay in gear 5. If the 5 elders are that strong then what abt the god knights an imu? That’d be too op for a luffy who gets gassed in 20 min of fighting
@@crystalsims831that is good that they are op, Luffy needs to get stronger 👍
I think they are all immortal,I think they all have had the Ope Ope No Mi Immortal surgery that's why they were so batshit crazy over finding that fruit at all cost once it respawned, and now they're all Immortal at least aging wise so they wanted to find the fruit again so no one else could get the same procedure and try to stop their plans 1,000 % sure on this I could be wrong but I just have this feeling.
Its kinda ironic that their demon forms might be coming from how they probably see the rest of the world as. since:
one a spider that see people as insects
ones a bird that sees people as having birds for brains (aka dumb)
ones a worm that sees people as lowly worms
ones a boar that sees people as filthy pigs
ones a horse that sees people as dumbasses
Great review, quite a bit of One Piece action happening!
wait zoans have a normal, hybrid, and beast? what r luffys 3 forms then? he gets 5?
I think that’s the case if your fruits animal species is different from yours, since luffy is human and ate a human model fruit I think it automatically put him into a hybrid form by default
Alternatively from my previous comment maybe luffy after eating the fruit transformed but not noticing that and not realizing he wasn’t in his normal body just kinda stuck with it and never realized the truth. This could mean his various gears are similar in nature to choppers rumble forms where it is a “transformation” but it’s not his proper base/hybrid/zoan forms in play.
His is a god fruit like Sangoku. Cosider G5 as full nika and all others as hybrids.
Jupiter powers likely come from the mongolian sand worm. As such, each gorosei likely as a dangerous legendary monster from east asia countries (japan, china, mongolia, korea, vietnam)
Keep up the great work and videos guys love the video
Hate that everyone still thinks these are devil fruits, these are 100% not devil fruits and powers from imu, they can do things even experienced devil fruit users cannot do and plus take a haki hit better then even kaido
Chill
"oh i just hate it, its riles me up, oh man i gotta bitch about it in the comments to 4 people"
@@foofoolame9127 better to express my thoughts then be a sheep
Until Oda confirm, it neither agree or deny for me
Bro it is way waaaayy to early for a video about their powers 😂
I would love if saint Ethan’s ice power is super natural/soul based similar to brooks soul power. Being a spirit horse and all
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I’m ngl. I feel like for some reason right, we gonna get to the point in this arc where shanks might actually show up last second when something is about to happen such as the escape not working. If not any power such as that idk how the whole gang is getting off the island unless some sacrifice(s) are made
why Saturn can’t disappear the scar on his face? don’t you guys think whatever is the cause of that scar might be the answer to defeating them?
they all have a scar
It is theorized they received those scars before they even got their demonic powers
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i have a feeling onepiece will spend another decade to reach this point
When this gets animated it gonna blowup🗣️🔥🗣️🔥
Tbf if I were an Immortal Demon, I'd consider all Mortal Races as insects
Not sure if anyone else said it but Ju Peter might actually be based on the Mongolian death worm not dunes sandworms
Nice video.serious explanation based in true facts*❤
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Also, are we sure it is the sandworm from Dune and not something else, like Beetlejuice?
It’s not based on dune. Why people still copy paste this sh!t? I know both movie and this almost came at the same time but damn
plost twist im saving this and calling it now imu is the water devil fruit user and the earth god. i could imagine if imu is derragned enough to want the whole world he would definitely want to be called the earth god and make his devil fruit the most busted thing in the world just like blackbeard.
16:13 maybe his control over fire/heat allows him to drain it and makes things freeze as a result.
The gorosei represent how our governments think about the common people
If the gorosei are named after planets wat if the ancient weapon Uranus use to be one of them but then switch sides or sumthing
What’s odd to me is that Mihawk is apparently the “greatest swordsman to ever live” but then you have one of the 5 elders who is also a swordsman- so is he the best or mihawk?! I expect the elder guy is but still
lulsia got climate changed right to the bottom of the ocean is actually so cold🥶
So we now know who defeated kiado in the past, seven enemies were mentioned on kiados introduction as he jump off of sky piea the four gorosei ,imu, rogger,and saint furgerland shanks grandfather oh and gear fifth luffy
Hybrid form of the Sandworm would be interesting.
Last guy could be associated with Oseichu or Sanshi, can't really find any details on them besides connection to disease, etc
Mongolian Death Worm?
Saturns beast form reminds me of the boiler man from spirited away
Sounds like imu is not from earth at all. So they feed off the despair fear and contol of the worlds people.
Imu sama is the SEA DEVIL AND THE GORO SEI ARE HER MINIONS
The source if the gorosei power will be the source of devil fruits. And they will end up having the traits of ALL devil fruit categories. That's why i think when he's hit its like a logia but he's clearly in zoen form.
I was thinking what if they are nightmares. Think of it Imu is the opposite of Nika. Nika's powers are based off imagination and dreams. Imu having the powers of nightmares would line up as a foil to Nika powers. Also, we are assuming the devil fruits were yokai based ones what if they were nightmare constructs of Imu and were giving human based devil fruits. We saw how Kanjiro could make semi sentient sketches. What if Imu created these nightmares, gave them human based devil fruits, they would then have nightmare powers. Like crazy regeneration, teleportation, and being dreams can make peoples head explode as they attack the subconscious of the weak willed. As for their haki it could be a portion of Imu's since they are his constructs. And since inanimate objects can eat devil fruits constructs should be able to. Thoughts?
I wish I could find and post all the comments where ppl said that the gorosei were weak like spamda and I was one of the few that said no way were the gorosei weak and wait till you see their power. Thank you ODA-sensei for proving me right
Outta all the 5 elders Jupiter and Mars are the only two elders that I don't hate as much, still hate them but not as much as Saturn, Nusjuro, and Walrus face.
I said it from the begining that the gorosei were a devil race once saturn first transformed i also said that i think BlackBeard and Nico Robin is also part of this devil race thats why we havent seen robin throughout this arc and when she defeated Maria Robin used her devil form but we didnt see what she realy looks like caused once the gorosei would have been revealed we the readers would have piece it together
Jupiter is the biggest planet in the solar system, and Peter's Sandworm form makes him the biggest out of the five
I think I know what mythical creature Ju Peters worm is based off: it's the Mongolian Death Worm, a fire breating worm like mythical creature which does tie in well with the rest of the Gorosei zoan fruits being based off Eastern asian mythological creatures.
Funny enough, a friend mentioned that Jupiters possible fruit power is based on a Mongolian Myth.
Sand worm also comes from Mongolia they have a myth about it not called that but it conducts electricity like an eel to shock its prey and is an ambush predator
The fact that he has the smoke _clouds and has 3 forms proves its a fruit power
Can't wait for our "hiroari" to shoot down marcus mars the strange bird "itsumade/til when"
The sandworm is possibly inspired by a Mongolian mythological monster sadly I don’t remember its name. It’s said that it can exponentially grow so long as it lives and that its bite is venomous.
I think there have been different elders over the past 8 centuries. It would explain why they were unaware of the truth of Luffy's devil fruit.
I think Imu only chooses Con-haki users from the celestial dragons to promote to elder then grants them a mythical demon-zoan power. It would explain why they don't expose themselves very often. They would be hard to replace.
As far as the sand worm goes there is a mythical creature called a Death Worm that it could be based upon.
Oda himself said it wasnt devil fruit powers but that the Gorosei are demons themselves based on Yokai.
There’s a Mongolian mythical creature called the Death Worm that inhabits the deserts of china and the greater Mongolian steppe. So I don’t think it’s a Dune reference
Seeing so much info put out at this stage in the magna! I wonder now again…. how would Roger favor against the Elders!!!?
Everyone debates on Saturn's scar but what if it's from before these immortal powers came to be as u said he's always looked this way
Probably ate a punch to the face by Joy Boy hahaha
I can't believe you missed this. The Sandworms in Dune are based on a real Earth myth or legend. The Mongolian Death Worm.
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mongolian_death_worm
Would you think Imu has some kind of reality power to create things from thin air?
I got that vibe from Imu, or we would hear about the name of the Devil Fruit power from each Gorosei.
Not gonna lie.
They haven't aged because of laws devil fruit. That's why it's so valuable m the "perpetual youth " grants immortality to whoever it's used upon but it kills the user.
Imu monopolized this fruit to ensure they them and their followers would never die from age nor grow weaker.
Oda might have used actual myths for ju peter.. there are greek myths of 10 foot demon worms called skolex or horrible indian worms.. or the ghibli which is said to be a worm demon who resemble maggots who turn into demons
The Sandworm is based off the Mongolian Death Worm
What if he is the world's greatest samurai? Their greatest tool was their horse.
We’ve never seen the gorosei sleep yet like black beard
Their transformation ability may not be due to the devil fruit, but because they are actually devils.
I think your on to something with ethanbaron. I do belive somewhere in history there was a English samurai. Actually it's also the plot of the movie The last Samurai. But it was American instead of English. To-may-to to-ma-to. Close enough. But there has to be something in history for it.
All of the strawhat will have luffys power as in nika power just like bonney. bonney posses that power earlier, is because she found her freedom at last and want to fight evil force. and presence of luffy
It's like Brook they both have soul based abilitys of a undead creature
i think they have devil fruits but it might be like something off with their fruits which is why they can summon each other
Luffy will definitely need another enhancement to gear 5 or even some assistance from allies bc this shii ain’t fair 😂.
4 of them wear west like clothes with tie and such while 1 of them has white but in asia white is mourn color.
I'm tired of all this guesswork and whatnot.
imma just wait till Oda tells us when we need to know exactly why the gorosei are so damn broken.
It's a Mongolian death worm from Mongolian mythology that could be where the creator of one piece got the idea from not from Dune. Since he's into creating characters devil fruit forms from mythology
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Bro make yonkos vs the five elder stars
actually Oda has Confirmed that the Five Elders are not Devil Fruit Users
Jupiter's power could also be based on the Mongolian death worm
Another unexpected 😲 twist.
I still subscribe to the idea the 5 elders dot have devil fruits they are devil fruits
well the worm guy could been named after The Mongolian death worm in mythology i don't think it's from dune
Oda needs to take a break, Brody has been carrying the anime and manga world on his back for decades. Toriyama, kishimoto, and Kubo really helped but now... not to assume weakness... I just don't want Oda working himself to death.
He is taking a break..
What if they are joy boy crew that imu made to betrayed him🫢