Please consider talking about the New Vrindaban murders. It’s a beautiful gilded Krishna temple on a mountain top in the middle of West Virginia. I’ve not seen anyone talking about it and it’s such a shame.
I have no idea what to suggest? I only know of the more widely covered cases. I know of more now because of channelers like yourself. Whatever you cover, I am here
What an absolute legend of a girl Lisa is. I can’t believe how smart she was for her young age. I hope she has a wonderful life. She has saved lives of future victims.
I was so upset when I heard after being kidnapped, she came home and nobody cared. No open arms. Most cops didn’t even listen at first. She was completely alone which is devastating. She’s incredibly smart and I’m happy everything didn’t bring her down. She is a warrior and she’s came such a long way. ❤
This is why it's so important to spread TBI (traumatic Brain Injury) awareness. All those head injuries undiagnosed or treated properly. My husband was hit off his motorcycle and in a coma for 4 months, upon impact. He's also highly sexual, but there are thousands of ways survivors change. Some suffer with severe anger and lack other emotions. March is tbi awareness. One of the most common, yet underfunded, uninformed disabilities.
So annoying that the police said she was too “calm”. Like if you were being raped and severely traumatized for the past 26 hours it probably became an out of body experience for her and she just disconnected. Who are they to decide whats an appropriate trauma response?!
I had a policeman tell me after I reported a doorstep visitor who wanted to use my phone that I was making it up and needed counselling. The visitor was wanted by three overlapping forces as oart of a fraud ring. She'd been on crimewatch. I later got her name and knew where she often stayed. He was a very pretty boy. Later on a very good policeman got these details. Bad apples in every box. Pretty boy was sacked I later learned for a misogynistic arrest. Mmm.
Annoying that was said by the officer. Similarly, I had a therapist tell me I didn’t need therapy because I didn’t cry during the session. I was recalling a terrible event that has caused a lot of anxiety and insomnia. She said, “ well I have clients that can’t stop crying.” And dismissed me!
@@barbiejean7947 I have a very similar experience, I've got a mental breakdown after being exhausted and living with depression for years, I just kept having panic attacks and tetany seizures, sometimes with episodes of full blindness for minutes (which is not safe on its own, but I had kids around)... my friends took me to psychiatric hospital for a week and they genuinely didn't want to hospitalize me, because I seemed too calm at the moment to have such problems... and even though they happened to hospitalize be based on what my friends told them they witnessed, they didn't help me with anything, I had no neurological appointment during the stay, they were just asking me the same questions and repeatedly "surprising" me with observations like that I was way too organized and calm to have any mental issues, that it would probably get better if I've decreased the stress in my life (even though I was the first one who actually mentioned it waiting for maybe a further advice or at least a brochure or a book or whatever may help). They were clueless. It helped me, though, because I was just able to switch off, I slept almost 14 hours per day, I had no duties, I've read like 2000 pages of books in their library... it was a nice "me time", but I was probably expecting more by mental health professionals than just letting me rest for a while and then put me back with literally no more information about my status than I had entering the unit. (It's years ago, I helped myself significantly using random sources of wisdom, my kids grew older, our financial situation improved a bit, so it all together got better, but I'm still very frustrated that this is what happens there, maybe to people who had not so much luck being able to manage as I had been able to...)
I heard about this case through a movie on Netflix called Believe Me: The Abduction of Lisa McVey and remember being in absolute awe of this young lady’s determination to stay alive, as well as how smart she is. The ending made me cry of relief knowing that she managed to move on and build the best life she could for herself. Such a hero 🥺
The sick thing was that Lisa's prior abuse was what likely saved her whilst in the clutches of Long. She was already a seasoned victim of abuse and had learned the art of switching off. Had she never experienced that prior abuse, she may have fallen apart in the way most other girls would and ended up on the list of murder victims. I'm glad she was able to turn her life around for the better for sure....
I was thinking the very same thing. Lisa knew an abusers weakness and MO. Very sad for all the awful things she went through in her life, but she is hero and like you also mention she most likely saved lives. I hope she has a great life now, and I wish her everything good.
This.. she had already learned how to move around an abuser and survive a traumatic environment, which is obv tragic... but it saved her life and the lives of countless other girls. ❤ I hope she's OK.
Wow... Lisa is extremely smart. For her to be able to be so calculated, intentional, and forward-thinking in a life or death situation is incredible! And for her young age too! I'm so impressed by her
Extremely smart doesn’t even begin to cover it. “Play accordingly” to try and gain the killer sympathy is a common behavior, leaving your fingerprints on every inche you can is more elaborated, but it’s a regularly given instruction by the police… Now: Clenching her jaw so that her blindfold ended up a little looser, constructing a perfectly accurate picture of his face by touching it and ONLY by touch… All while, going through hell on earth… And then combining all of what she got from these different strategies to deductively build a picture perfect of him - I don’t remember now, but I believe it was a extremely short time if nothing but uninterrupted torment - it’s literally so impressive that if it was a movie people would complain about it being “too unrealistic”. It’s, and I mean that, plain and simple “Sherlock Holmes tier . I’m intrigued about how her career in the force , because he
@@jennaagee7992 Wait, why did you comment this? I don't think that anyone mentioned a dog? It's a bit spooky because my dog is scheduled to be put down in a few hours
I think the fact that she said her dad was sick rather than her mom was such an important factor to this. Instead of seeing the example of women that his mother set for him, he saw in Lisa a kind, devoted, and soft woman that he never got to experience. She subverted the vision of women he had that he had so much anger against and gave him affection that he lacked. The fact that she also said she was a caregiver, gave him the feeling as well of a “maternal” love. Her choices for her story were brilliant!
Please please cover the case of Morgan Kay Harris from Utah!! Her mom is a family friend and the whole situation is absolutely heartbreaking. She and her dog were locked in a storage unit by her boyfriend and then he set it on fire. The justice system totally failed her because he had a history of abusing women and despite violating parole over and over again he never served a sentence for his crimes. Even now he is being treated like he stole a candy bar at a grocery store! This is my absolute favorite true crime channel! I admire how much respect you always show to victims! It would mean the world to so many people if you could cover this.
Does any other woman just feel this collective weight of being a woman? Like, it's this unspoken, deeply felt connection to each others pain. When I hear these stories about women, I feel this deep mourning in my heart.
No. I rarely imagine women as a whole being identified as victims. Rather I believe we are half of the world, thus we are half of the life of all living beings for eternity
She was simply stating that women emotionally connect with the burdens of many other women. Also, men connect with men in different ways as well when carrying exhaustions of the heart. God designed men and women differently and in His Perfection, the two complement one another... when done in a healthy and nurturing manner.. No one in this short window of this thread stated that women are victims. Feminism has no part in connecting to another's compassion to a mournful heart. Anger, Bitterness, and Resentment, i do Not believe were the goal of this original empathetic, open, and vulnerable comment. .... .... .... .... God Bless You In All Truth and Repentance. - In Christ, Christina
@christinaperrigo really? Is this the place to share your beliefs? When being told about how horribly these women have be treat? Thats where you decide to share? Nobody wants to hear your beliefs theyre YOUR beliefs. Have some respect
Lisa is one of my own person heroes. Learning that she had planned to kill herself the very day all this started, it blows my mind. This should have NEVER happened to her, but it is a literal miracle that she not only didn’t take her life and survived that evil man. She is incredible.
She saved so many lives and rapes from occurring! I hope she knows how brave and heroic she is. I hope that after this she had a wonderful life full of kindness and real love🙏❤️🕊️✨. She deserves it after such a terrible childhood ❣️
@@florentina1972 man I wish I knew. I just watched it not long ago. I can't think of the actress name either. But I'm try look her up hold on I'ma search for it. That was a great movie.
I experienced being exposed to my parents doing 18+ stuff as a child as well. It truly messed me up and I was disgusted with myself once puberty started. Parents need to stop being so neglectful
Yes it's not like she couldn't send them out to the couch. She obviously made the choice to keep him in the bed... Like so messed up! I wonder when she did it when he was younger if she thought it was better to not leave him alone in some messed up way. 🤢 I'm pretty sure being left alone with her being at the guy's house would have literally been better.
I feel like it should be under the child sexual abuse umbrella, cause that is fucked up. Like kids should not be seeing that shit on the regular. But I also wonder, our ancestors all lived in one room homes, had 6 kids and did the nasty in front of the kids 24/7. Was the mental toll as bad back then or did no one just talk about it? Cause humans lived like that for most of our history but only lately has it become weird and even abusive. Maybe it's worse with how distanced we've become from our families and the nuclear family with few kids has made this die out. As it should.
The “you don’t act like a victim” shit pisses me the fuck off. I was raped by my “best friend” and my FEMALE police officer said I was lying because I didn’t want to look the advocate in the eye reciting my story of how I just been raped and she said “normal people who have been just been raped would be able to do that”. He went on to admit he did it PUBLICLY on social media and she still refused to do anything. Then we have a fair here every year and he saw me smiled, laughed, and waved at me. Like traumatic as fuck then you have detectives and officers who say you’re not enough of a victim.
To be fair this shit is one of the reasons I didn't bother trying to report my CSA to the police. I most likely have undiagnosed autism so I don't express my emotions in the typical way anyway. With trauma unless someone is actively making me talk about it I look completely fine
@leobeboop4944 "undiagnosed autism" Respectfully, you should go get diagnosed. Wouldn't you rather know than be walking around in limbo? If you find out you aren't, then you no longer need to use it as an excuse for certain behaviors and then you can nip them in the bud. I am in the mental health field, and a lot of folks diagnose themselves online and that's not helpful. Please, take care of yourself. There's only one you.
Considering how Lisa was treated by the police when she filed a report, I am not surprised that the man got away for so long... Sexism and rape culture have made all of this happen. Lisa is really strong! I am amazed at how she kept her composure during the torture she went through. I noted everything you said she did, just in case 🙃 even though I hope something like that doesn't happen to anybody anymore
Yeah, I can't believe how the police, social services, or anyone frantically didn't rescue him as a child while his mom was having sex with strange men, in the bed she shared with child. Or the catastrophic accidents he had a little boy, I guess I would just say, sexism. Furthermore, people comment all the time on body language and say whether complete strangers are telling the truth or not, I am certain you've done it..is that sexism? A police officer did believe her, but initially, they didn't because umm people think they are human lie detectors, and I am certain you've been guilty of this as well and have been wrong.
Rape culture? Rape happens yes but our culture (America, UK, Canada) do not support it. It is not an acceptable part of our culture. But I can tell you cultures that really just don't care.....
It blows my mind that, in the 80s, when forensic science was still a baby and there wasn't all this true crime content, Lisa was smart enough to leave her fingerprints everywhere and all the other measures she took to be able to later identify him. And the sheer fucking resilience, not being believed by multiple people at first, and still pushing on until someone finally took her seriously... Feeling very inspired by her today. Great video as always
This really should be highlighted more... back then we didn't have all these CSI shows or the internet. Forensics was still developing and a lot of police depts were still getting on board so I don't think the general public wouldn't have been as familiar w these techniques as we are now.
Many people are unaware of the fact that head trauma can change a persons personality. With all the blows to his head no wonder he ended up the way he did. Very sad story.
Actualy all of his syptomes after his motobike actident are typical of frotal lobe damage to the brain. The front of his brain definitely had permanent and non reversable damage.
I hope Lisa sees all those comments. She is amazing and as a fellow survivor of long-term Childhood-SA I am so proud of her. Her being a cop that actually hunts those bastards - brought me to tears. You're beacon of hope. Thank you.
Yes! I think her criminal justice degree, gives her a unique insight, that I don't typically find on channels with non-professional creators. While her empathetic nature gives her videos a genuine side that you don't unusually find with creators with professional backgrounds. One of my fav TC creators 😊
@hallievanoutryve3109 This may be a side note but I especially appreciate how she speaks about people with physical disabilities and/or mental illnesses. These topics come up a lot in true crime and they are often talked about ignorantly or in a stigmatizing way. As someone with a disabled partner and several family members with mental health issues I REALLY appreciate that I don't have to feel worried about misinformation and stigma when I click on her videos.
What kills me the most about Bobby’s child hood is they live just the two of them and she would have sex next to her son. Disgusting and ignorant. But to live in a house with other adults and no one stepped it blows my mind. Horrible case. Lisa is such a powerful inspirational woman.
I love watching your youtube channel.. Off topic,have you ever thought of curling your hair to go with your makeup? Not disregarding the horrible story of Lisa. Bless that poor girls heart.
You know you mentioned that this wasn’t a “nice” story and most of them aren’t on your channel because of the nature of the topics. However, I consider this a win, a victim survived and found a new will to live. That’s rare and I am so glad that she’s ok
My husband and I really struggled with addiction quite a few years ago. Lost our vehicles and our home. Had to move in with family and start over. I got sober before him. Caught him being unfaithful multiple times. I sat with a loaded gun my lap and watched him sleep 3 nights in a row. I had made the decision that I was either going to off myself or him because I couldn't take it anymore. I'm so grateful everyday now that I didn't do that. Scary to think about the things we're capable of when we're mentally unstable. I am now medicated and could NEVER imagine behaving that way.
Lisa is the GOAT. A silver lining to her being taken was that she got a new outlook on life. It’s still tragic she had to deal with his sick crimes, but I’m so glad she’s still here working towards making society safer place for young women and girls alike 💕
Girl you can't make this shit up- I was looking at your channel and thinking you hadn't posted in a while and the SECOND that thought entered my brain I got this notification. Edit: I know how algorithms work. I have notifications turned on for her channel, it wasn't a surprise. I got the notification the second the video came out, which happened to be the exact minute I was looking at her recent uploads and wondering when she'd post. The timing is the coincidence, not the notif itself ❤️
You know, what's so bad is that without all of his head trauma, he might have gone on to be "normal" in life. Even after the trauma he suffered from his mom, he was able to have a stable relationship with Cindy which leads me to believe everything that happened was a direct result of the motorcycle accident he was in. What a shame that it turned him into such a sick and twisted individual.
The motorcycle accident caused first horrible change then second accident into telephone pole with Mary caused the second. Not an excuse by any means however one has to wonder if environment (mother) started the process and nature (accidents) caused the progression.
I am 37 weeks pregnant and Danielle, I am convinced my baby is going to recognize your voice coming out lol Thanks for making interesting and empathetic content! I always enjoy listening to your videos
As a victim of multiple SA’s, You act differently when it’s happened multiple times. I only freaked out the first time and the one time unlawful confinement was involved. Its crazy because police rejected her story because she was acting to calm, but police rejected mine because I acted too weird. It’s almost as if there’s no “correct” way to react
So I determine recidivism in sex offenders for our judicial system, and upon reading your comment, I found myself curious. Were you in a particular situation that lead you to being abused multiple times? I.e. bad familial situation? And if not, do you think there is a reason you were targeted as a victim?
@@itskindofafunnystory...3237 I can’t speak for the person above me but i was raped multiple times as a child and the reason was because i was vulnerable child who spent most of her time outside
@mermaid-xd2us I guess you missed the part where I do this for a living. I wanted to hear that particular person's POV. I don't need information from a YT post from you. You were not who I asked. Thanks.
@@itskindofafunnystory...3237if you are someone who “does this for a living”, I would hope you’d know not to so directly ask for the intimate details of someone’s SA experience, especially on a public platform. Just because this person posted a comment divulging some aspects of their experience, that’s not an invitation to be interviewed
Danielle, I watch your videos even if I feel I “know” the story already. Because you go so deep into detail, you always surprise me with things I never knew. Thank you for doing so much research in your videos while still being respectful. It helps a lot to understand the childhood of both victim and perpetrator, as you can kind of see why they are the way they are. We love you girl! Happy Sunday everyone. Be safe and be kind to yourselves. Edited for spelling! I think that automatically made you unheart the comment omg I’m so sad
Yeah for some reason if the RUclips creator likes your comment and then you edit it after, RUclips removes the like, I don’t know why it does it but I’ve seen it happen so many times to people.
exactly, i know most cases she covers but still i watch every single video… just waiting for her to cover the toybox killer or marc dutroux from belgium!!
I often wonder about the abusive parent, in this case, his mother, and how she feels about how her actions affected and caused her son to turn out as he did...she was no better than him. I wish the original abusers paid for THEIR part in these matters.
I really admire Lisa for everything she did to get herself away from him alive. Not many teenage girls would think to do the things that she did. She's a beautiful woman who was too smart for her own good. Bless her. RIP to all the victims who weren't so lucky💔 💜
The way you recount these tragedies is so pure. I love your empathy and your heart. Seriously my favorite podcast channel to listen to. Thank you for all your hard work and dedication ❤
Its honestly so sad how this guy essentially had a horrific switch flipped in his mind after a devastating accident that turned him from a relatively happy, albeit troubled married man in the military, into a deranged sex crazed murderer. Never heard of another case like this where a TBI from an accident completely morphs the killers personality in an instant into the monster he became. Maybe it was in there all along given his genetic abnormalities and traumatic upbringing, but maybe the brain injuries suffered really did turn him into a monster committing absolutely horrific crimes he never would have previously
I am literally baffled by how identical my story is to hers, as well as my approach to trauma. I’ve even been accused of lying by police, and others just because I was calm as well. People don’t understand the depth of what you are capable of once you’ve experienced such trauma. It no longer makes you feel afraid, you feel numb to it all.
Great to see you back! Hope you had a wonderful holiday and got some much needed rest from these cases. Looking forward to what you will bring this year and hope this is a better year. 2023 has maybe been one of the worst years of my life and your videos made me having something to look forward to. Thank you for covering this case. I had suggested Lisa McVey because she reminded me of the other brave victims who survived their assaults and came out stronger.
Lisa’s story always inspired me. It is eerily similar to my life in the sense of she was a twin in foster care, then got out at seven, which is the exact age that I got out of foster care had a tumultuous life with sex abuse, and had a job at a donut shop at a young age because I was literally every single one of those things. Sometimes I look back and I appreciate that I made it through all those hard times, and those late nights walking home alone as a kid she’s a powerful and strong person. I’m glad she made it as well. Hopefully she’s healed a little bit overtime. I know it doesn’t completely go away but at least you can recover in a small way.
L is a had an inner light that hadn't been touched by her abusers. She looked different to the others. Proof that whatever the abuse...some people remain pure. Not all abused children fall into bad ways. I hope you do recover. Fully. Its possible.
Lisa is amazing. She went into law enforcement. Very successful and a great human being Lisa actually peeked under her blindfold,listening for cues where they were driving to, counting between different street lights... she deliberately leaving finger prints, hair strands, very clever
Wow. Wow wow wow. Lisa truly was given a second chance, and she used it to catch a monster. I hope she is blessed for the rest of her life. Thank you for telling us about this case, Danielle. Bravo ❤
I've heard this story and admire Lisa more than i can express. She showed strength and cunning WAY beyond her years. I'm not sure if most older grown women would be able to push down their fear and panic to do what she did. Anyway, I've never heard all the details that you put into it. You do that with all of your cases and it makes you better able to relate to the story. Your hard work is appreciated. As is your sassy commentary. 😘
This was the perfect case to start the year with because in the mist of pure evil pure good emerged. Lisa is a truly good soul and an inspiration for women everywhere. She shows no matter how bad it gets life is worth living you just have to stay focused and keep fighting. I'm sure she has helped many more in many ways and is spreading love everywhere she goes
Believe Me: The Abduction of Lisa McVey this is the exact movie about everything you just mentioned but you did it in so much more detail , well done Danielle I never missed an episode of yours ❤️
I had thought I recognized some details about Bobby’s prior assaults and victims found, listening to Danielle talk about Lisa’s experience and abduction made me really remember the film about her story and it leading to Bobby Joe Long’s capture. What a vile man.. Glad Danielle could cast more light on his unfortunate victims and share Lisa’s powerful life story
Wow Danielle you came back with such an incredible case! You told the victim and survivor stories so well with so much compassion. The way you tell these stories truly makes you feel the gravity of these tragic stories. It’s easy to in some way become desensitised to these stories, especially if you’re a daily crime content consumer like myself.. but you really have a special way of sharing these people’s story Thank you for all that you do to provide us with content and if you need more time to detach and spend with your loved ones, we will definitely wait until you’re ready to start back up Being consumed in content like this is hard and you cover exceptionally heavy cases, so take care and no pressure to return from us at all! ❤
The part about the last accident Bobby Joe Long was in and how afterwards he had an extreme shift in behavior made me think about a common case study we learned in intro to psychology about a man named Phineas Gage. In short, he was an American railroad construction worker in the 1800's who suffered severe trauma to the head, where an iron rod was shoved right through his head. Afterwards, he experienced an extreme shift in behavior, from having a relatively "normal" temperament to extremely angry and easily aggravated. This case study was some of the first evidence on record for where emotion was controlled in the brain. I'm so curious - what would have happened if he never experienced that injury? Would all of this have been avoided? If this case happened today, would this be a talking point in the trial? Truly heartbreaking case, thank you Danielle for bringing awareness. Always looking forward to your Sunday uploads!!
Please consider doing the Shonda Vander Ark case. It's a case of neglect and abuse of her 15 year old special needs son. The trail wrapped up about 2-3 weeks ago, here in Michigan. Thanks for considering Danielle! Happy New Year to you!
I think his mom needs to be held accountable too. If you were abusing/neglecting your kids and they become serial killers, the parents should be arrested or have to pay money to the families of the victims. I hate how these people (sometimes) knowingly create rapists/serial killers. There’s as much blame on them as the killer, bc in retrospect they wouldn’t have been like that if parents weren’t assholes.
I mean how far back should we go with the blame though? I mean what about his mother's abuse? She was supposedly sexually abused her entire childhood and only married his father to get away from her stepfather who was raping her. Then we could likely look into both the grandmother and the stepfather's past and I'm sure we would discover more abuse there as well. Hurt people often go on to hurt people. I completely get the urge to yearn for accountability but I am just not sure how practical it is...
Sometimes it's generational purely based on the fact that it's been normalized to them and they don't even know what normal boundaries are. They sometimes don't even see what they're doing as abusive but just, life. 😑
@@sarahalderman3126 hold everyone who’s still alive accountable perhaps? Maybe none of this would happen if this country would take mental health seriously, destigmatize it, and make it more affordable.
Most psychopaths have a smaller than normal prefrontal cortex. This means that they are not as good at higher process reasoning, analysis, and by having willpower and control over their emotions. This not only impairs the IQ, it makes the individual more susceptible to manipulation. This does go to show when you meet someone with a psychopathic brain (smaller prefrontal cortex) who is actually well-adjusted, usually you will find a strong support structure that enforced boundaries and a connection to community in their upbringing. Kinda scary to think about how isolated kids are nowadays. Seems like the perfect society to breed more violent uncaring psychopaths.
Seeing the picture of Lisa as a grown adult in her police uniform took my breath away. How amazing. Such a strong, strong woman. And her speech is beautiful.
I've followed this case for a while! So glad u covered it! U should do shanda sharer. She was a 12 year old girl who was brutally killed by her ex girlfriend's ex girlfriend. 4 teenage girls tortured and beat her for hours. Her story is harrowing. And I think u would be so good at telling it. The respect and compassion u have for the victims is exactly what shandas story needs. Thanks for everything u do danielle! ❤❤❤
One of the worst cases I’ve listened to. And I’ve cycled through Danielle, Stephanie Harlowe, Eleanor Neale, Sherrilyn Dale and of course Bailey Sarian.
A happy New Year to you and welcome back. Thanks for this case. I've seen it many times and if sassy Danielle comes out I don't blame you. Just like other serial killers he could've been stopped and lots of his crimes could've been prevented. This case makes my blood boil and this monster makes me sick. I'm glad Lisa survived and I hope she's doing great.
I have never heard so much details on this case before and geez, what a backstory. Good job to Lisa for bringing down this horrible man. Thank you, for this case Danielle ❤
Not only was Bobby’s mum grotty but the men who thought it was ok to get off next to a child. I think the difunctional people started way back before his mum
Missed you beautiful Danielle, but hope you were able to relax a bit. You are by far my favorite true crimes presenter. I love your compassion, passion and spunk. I love your wonderful expressions. I spend time thinking about your impressive and important presentations and find myself praying for all those who suffer such horrific injustices. I pray more people listen to your channel to be more vigilant and kinder. You are such a blessing Danielle. Love you.
I knew it would be Bobby Joe Long as soon as I read the title. Lisa's story has always been so interesting to me. I have no idea what I would've done if I had been in her situation when I was 17. The movie about her story where she's portrayed by Katie Douglas is incredible. Definitely recommend to anyone who hasn't seen it
Even though I've heard this story from other TC creators, I still learned something new from your coverage of it. You never cease to amaze me with your attention to detail, compassion and respect towards the victims & survivors.🥰✌🏽
okay, so this ending with his only survivor telling her story, made me sniffle. her strength is undeniable and I'm so happy she is thriving and not a victim!! Justice was served!!
Watching him speak its terrifying. He is speaking like he is talking about the weather.... only he is detailing the last minutes of multiple people's lives
Thank you for this case because I’m so inspired and honored to know of Lisa Mcveys life . She’s truly a survivor and protector of women and children. Can you imagine if she hadn’t been so intelligent to do what she did to get away and then help the police catch him ? He would possibly have many more victims?! God bless her and protect her 🙏🏼!!! May her courage inspire us to be as brave as she. And may all the other victims rip .
Way too many people go through so much abuse in their young lives. It’s absolutely horrible. I am glad this story had a different ending for at least one person.
I’m in full on tears now at the ending of this video/case! 😢😭😭😭 What a brave and courageous woman she was and how her life changed from such a tragic and traumatic experience! She wanted to end her life and this evil man made her want to live. Truly remarkable!!! And the fact that your video was an hour, 11 minutes and 11 seconds is so interesting and symbolic. Angel numbers 🥹🙏🏽🫶🏽 Happy New Year Danielle!! 🥂
The amount of head trauma this man had- no wonder he became a complete monster. Personalities ALWAYS change for the WORST when it comes to serious head trauma.
I work with individuals who struggle with trauma and abuse daily. Unfortunate as it is, they have many larger hurdles in life. Even though she will have struggles this story gives me the most satisfaction over any true crime story that I’ve ever heard based on the fact that she was able to become even more of a TOTAL BADASS after her tragic experience. Since I work with people who are at their lowest of lows, people like her, are the reason so many others find hope. Danielle , this was one of the best way to start the new year and honestly probably inspired so many people.
Glad to see you back! I'm a new subscriber and have been binge watching your videos during the holiday break. I would really like to see your coverage on the Lori Vallow case, even though it's pretty well known, you're one of the few youtubers I feel would give it justice and be respectful in your coverage. I would also like for you to cover the Burari deaths. It's a devastating case, and there's not a lot of coverage. love your videos!
So ecstatic that you're back! You are my absolute favorite content creator and I feel like my life is back on track now that you're back. I sincerely hope 2024 is kind to you and starts off better than 2023 seemed to end for you. Could you cover the case of Diane Downs? I recently heard this case, but the detail was minimal and it would be phenomenal to hear all of the detail and emotion you put into your videos, and to learn any and all potential psychological aspects that may be behind her actions. 💕
Lisa is just incredible. I saw the film based on her story and was delighted when she appeared at the end as an adult. What she went through is horrific and I don’t know how she managed to stay so strong
What a case to start with in 2024, Danielle! This one had me going through a whole range of feelings! I had never even heard about this story before, and as usual, your ability to tell these stories is second to none! You convey such empathy and such powerful emotions that I’m unable to stop watching until the very end! This one was particularly harrowing and yet, empowering at the same time. The strength of Lisa and her self control to keep her cool to ensure he was caught, whether she made it out alive or not, was just awesome! Such a perfect story of the ultimate monster defeated by a brilliant victim. Even better when said victim is a woman! I swear I come away from your videos having learned something new about staying safe and you always put your heart and soul into your work. And it shows! Happy New Year and I’m so looking forward to more of your videos/stories. You’re one in a million, Danielle! Love you!!! ❤❤❤
Incredibly sad that peoples fight or flight responses are different because of brutal harmful treatment/neglect/abuse. Lisa is an amazing inspiration. This really shouldn’t have happened.
AHHHH- Danielle has posted it’s going to be a great day. This one sounds daunting, heard it broken down on other channels but I had to hear Danielle break it down! Thank you Danielle for all your work and I hope your holidays were well!
Wow.. Lisa is just rock solid. She is truly an inspiration. Rest In Peace to the Victims, known and unknown and prayers of healing to the Survivors still out there. It got me thinking though, with so many attacks it would be nothing short of a miracle if there were no babies conceived in these attacks. If there was I hope they never found out what conceived them.
I’m so excited your back and this case just blows my mind. This girl, she was just a child and she just wow! What a great case to bring in the New Year! And I just have to say, you’re my favorite RUclipsr. I recently found you a few months ago and I literally watch you every morning with my cup of tea while doing my makeup for work!
It’s so sad that, had the police listened to her when she got home from Bobby’s, the last girl would probably still have been alive. I also doubt that any of the cops who said she was lying due to being “too calm” - never got held accountable of allowing that last girl to die.
Happy New Year Danielle! I subscribed to your channel like a year ago, but in the last month I’ve been binge watching all your videos and I have to say that you are by far my favorite true crime channel, not to mention how talented you are with makeup!
I just realised, I consumed your conrent regularly for far over a year now. Your pleasant and calm voice and way to describe things make it very easy to follow these stories, even though I'm no native English speaker (or listener in this case). Thank you, for all the work you put into your content, to make our Sunday evening almost every week. ♥️ Oh, and I would be very interested in a coverage of the case of Luca Magnotta. Many could know him from Netflix's "Don't f'ck with cats". Or a case as big as the one of Richard Ramírez would be interesting too.
Makes you wonder if this man didn't hit his head so often if he'd still be the same person. ..but at the same time, his mother was probably the biggest reason he became what he became.. how sad. Love your channel Danielle, glad you're back😊
I feel like that last head injury changed his whole personality even though he saw all that abuse with his mother the neglect it seemed like he changed when he met his girlfriend/wife he was still angry but only towards his mother and maybe the fights got into at school but that Last head injury his whole personality changed he didn't care so much for his wife or for anyone else. So I feel like if he hadn't had suffered the last head injury he probably would've lived a normal life with his wife the brain is one big mystery we will never figure out
I’m super late today. Didn’t expect you to upload today. I’d love to see your coverage of Natasha Cornett, Alvin and Judith Neeley, Crystal Howell, and Rachael Mullenix. All these cases are barely covered and I love when you cover cases that aren’t really covered.
i can’t believe no one’s talking about the movie/short film they did about her case. it was done really well and i think it’s just like a made for tv type thing but i definitely recommend it
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Please consider talking about the New Vrindaban murders. It’s a beautiful gilded Krishna temple on a mountain top in the middle of West Virginia. I’ve not seen anyone talking about it and it’s such a shame.
Happy new year! Please do Paulette's case, it is one of the most polemic cases in Mexico, and it's still remains unsolved!
Happy New Year! I have a case you can look into, the tragic Murder of Sylvia Likens
I have no idea what to suggest? I only know of the more widely covered cases. I know of more now because of channelers like yourself. Whatever you cover, I am here
What an absolute legend of a girl Lisa is. I can’t believe how smart she was for her young age. I hope she has a wonderful life. She has saved lives of future victims.
I came here to say just about the same thing, but you said it better!
They made a movie about her life and she actually became a cop.
I was so upset when I heard after being kidnapped, she came home and nobody cared. No open arms. Most cops didn’t even listen at first. She was completely alone which is devastating. She’s incredibly smart and I’m happy everything didn’t bring her down. She is a warrior and she’s came such a long way. ❤
I remember seeing a interview with Lisa saying she was glad it was her and not another girl bc she could handle it. She is such an inspiration
This is why it's so important to spread TBI (traumatic Brain Injury) awareness. All those head injuries undiagnosed or treated properly. My husband was hit off his motorcycle and in a coma for 4 months, upon impact. He's also highly sexual, but there are thousands of ways survivors change. Some suffer with severe anger and lack other emotions. March is tbi awareness. One of the most common, yet underfunded, uninformed disabilities.
My thoughts
That was my thought. He hit his forehead, the frontal lobe, that controls the impulse, it is the center of judegement.
So annoying that the police said she was too “calm”. Like if you were being raped and severely traumatized for the past 26 hours it probably became an out of body experience for her and she just disconnected. Who are they to decide whats an appropriate trauma response?!
I had a policeman tell me after I reported a doorstep visitor who wanted to use my phone that I was making it up and needed counselling. The visitor was wanted by three overlapping forces as oart of a fraud ring. She'd been on crimewatch. I later got her name and knew where she often stayed. He was a very pretty boy. Later on a very good policeman got these details. Bad apples in every box. Pretty boy was sacked I later learned for a misogynistic arrest. Mmm.
Annoying that was said by the officer. Similarly, I had a therapist tell me I didn’t need therapy because I didn’t cry during the session. I was recalling a terrible event that has caused a lot of anxiety and insomnia. She said, “ well I have clients that can’t stop crying.” And dismissed me!
@@barbiejean7947 I have a very similar experience, I've got a mental breakdown after being exhausted and living with depression for years, I just kept having panic attacks and tetany seizures, sometimes with episodes of full blindness for minutes (which is not safe on its own, but I had kids around)... my friends took me to psychiatric hospital for a week and they genuinely didn't want to hospitalize me, because I seemed too calm at the moment to have such problems... and even though they happened to hospitalize be based on what my friends told them they witnessed, they didn't help me with anything, I had no neurological appointment during the stay, they were just asking me the same questions and repeatedly "surprising" me with observations like that I was way too organized and calm to have any mental issues, that it would probably get better if I've decreased the stress in my life (even though I was the first one who actually mentioned it waiting for maybe a further advice or at least a brochure or a book or whatever may help). They were clueless. It helped me, though, because I was just able to switch off, I slept almost 14 hours per day, I had no duties, I've read like 2000 pages of books in their library... it was a nice "me time", but I was probably expecting more by mental health professionals than just letting me rest for a while and then put me back with literally no more information about my status than I had entering the unit. (It's years ago, I helped myself significantly using random sources of wisdom, my kids grew older, our financial situation improved a bit, so it all together got better, but I'm still very frustrated that this is what happens there, maybe to people who had not so much luck being able to manage as I had been able to...)
Not to mention that she had been through the whole mess for 4 years before that; it's no wonder she was so calm. Poor child.
Omg!😮 he was born on my Birthday !
I heard about this case through a movie on Netflix called Believe Me: The Abduction of Lisa McVey and remember being in absolute awe of this young lady’s determination to stay alive, as well as how smart she is. The ending made me cry of relief knowing that she managed to move on and build the best life she could for herself. Such a hero 🥺
Sadly not on Netflix in my country anymore 😭
Yes!!! This is what I watched
I LOVED this movie. Soo soo good
omg i thought i recognised when she was talking about her experience!! that’s crazy
Yes it was on lifetime. That’s where I watched it
The sick thing was that Lisa's prior abuse was what likely saved her whilst in the clutches of Long. She was already a seasoned victim of abuse and had learned the art of switching off. Had she never experienced that prior abuse, she may have fallen apart in the way most other girls would and ended up on the list of murder victims. I'm glad she was able to turn her life around for the better for sure....
I was thinking the very same thing. Lisa knew an abusers weakness and MO. Very sad for all the awful things she went through in her life, but she is hero and like you also mention she most likely saved lives. I hope she has a great life now, and I wish her everything good.
I was hoping to hear that grandma's boyfriend was arrested too. And probably grandma as well. She knew what was going on.
This.. she had already learned how to move around an abuser and survive a traumatic environment, which is obv tragic... but it saved her life and the lives of countless other girls. ❤ I hope she's OK.
Wow... Lisa is extremely smart. For her to be able to be so calculated, intentional, and forward-thinking in a life or death situation is incredible! And for her young age too! I'm so impressed by her
Movie made from these events. It's amazing u have to watch it. Called Believe me abduction of Lisa McVey. Great movie
It’s a terrifying and horrible experience she went through, but it made her one hell of a cop.
Extremely smart doesn’t even begin to cover it. “Play accordingly” to try and gain the killer sympathy is a common behavior, leaving your fingerprints on every inche you can is more elaborated, but it’s a regularly given instruction by the police… Now: Clenching her jaw so that her blindfold ended up a little looser, constructing a perfectly accurate picture of his face by touching it and ONLY by touch… All while, going through hell on earth… And then combining all of what she got from these different strategies to deductively build a picture perfect of him - I don’t remember now, but I believe it was a extremely short time if nothing but uninterrupted torment - it’s literally so impressive that if it was a movie people would complain about it being “too unrealistic”. It’s, and I mean that, plain and simple “Sherlock Holmes tier . I’m intrigued about how her career in the force , because he
Your dog is precious
@@jennaagee7992 Wait, why did you comment this? I don't think that anyone mentioned a dog?
It's a bit spooky because my dog is scheduled to be put down in a few hours
I think the fact that she said her dad was sick rather than her mom was such an important factor to this. Instead of seeing the example of women that his mother set for him, he saw in Lisa a kind, devoted, and soft woman that he never got to experience. She subverted the vision of women he had that he had so much anger against and gave him affection that he lacked. The fact that she also said she was a caregiver, gave him the feeling as well of a “maternal” love. Her choices for her story were brilliant!
Please please cover the case of Morgan Kay Harris from Utah!! Her mom is a family friend and the whole situation is absolutely heartbreaking. She and her dog were locked in a storage unit by her boyfriend and then he set it on fire. The justice system totally failed her because he had a history of abusing women and despite violating parole over and over again he never served a sentence for his crimes. Even now he is being treated like he stole a candy bar at a grocery store! This is my absolute favorite true crime channel! I admire how much respect you always show to victims! It would mean the world to so many people if you could cover this.
Does any other woman just feel this collective weight of being a woman? Like, it's this unspoken, deeply felt connection to each others pain. When I hear these stories about women, I feel this deep mourning in my heart.
Absolutely
Another statement that Kinda like, Debunks Transgenderism, ay'? Indeed.
No. I rarely imagine women as a whole being identified as victims. Rather I believe we are half of the world, thus we are half of the life of all living beings for eternity
She was simply stating that women emotionally connect with the burdens of many other women. Also, men connect with men in different ways as well when carrying exhaustions of the heart. God designed men and women differently and in His Perfection, the two complement one another... when done in a healthy and nurturing manner.. No one in this short window of this thread stated that women are victims. Feminism has no part in connecting to another's compassion to a mournful heart. Anger, Bitterness, and Resentment, i do Not believe were the goal of this original empathetic, open, and vulnerable comment. .... .... .... .... God Bless You In All Truth and Repentance. - In Christ, Christina
@christinaperrigo really? Is this the place to share your beliefs? When being told about how horribly these women have be treat? Thats where you decide to share? Nobody wants to hear your beliefs theyre YOUR beliefs. Have some respect
Lisa is one of my own person heroes. Learning that she had planned to kill herself the very day all this started, it blows my mind. This should have NEVER happened to her, but it is a literal miracle that she not only didn’t take her life and survived that evil man. She is incredible.
She saved so many lives and rapes from occurring! I hope she knows how brave and heroic she is. I hope that after this she had a wonderful life full of kindness and real love🙏❤️🕊️✨. She deserves it after such a terrible childhood ❣️
I saw the movie made about this case and what happened to Lisa and how she brought him down! shes absolutely a hero of mine
@@rachaelleann9847 Can you please tell me the name of the movie?
@@florentina1972 man I wish I knew. I just watched it not long ago. I can't think of the actress name either. But I'm try look her up hold on I'ma search for it. That was a great movie.
@@florentina1972 found it ! It's called Believe Me. You have to watch it !
I experienced being exposed to my parents doing 18+ stuff as a child as well. It truly messed me up and I was disgusted with myself once puberty started. Parents need to stop being so neglectful
There is a line being open with your kids, and being THAT open with your kids
Yes it's not like she couldn't send them out to the couch. She obviously made the choice to keep him in the bed... Like so messed up! I wonder when she did it when he was younger if she thought it was better to not leave him alone in some messed up way. 🤢 I'm pretty sure being left alone with her being at the guy's house would have literally been better.
I feel like it should be under the child sexual abuse umbrella, cause that is fucked up. Like kids should not be seeing that shit on the regular. But I also wonder, our ancestors all lived in one room homes, had 6 kids and did the nasty in front of the kids 24/7. Was the mental toll as bad back then or did no one just talk about it? Cause humans lived like that for most of our history but only lately has it become weird and even abusive. Maybe it's worse with how distanced we've become from our families and the nuclear family with few kids has made this die out. As it should.
@@TheKleptixmaybe they sent the children outside when they wanted to.
I’m so sorry that happened to you 😢 I’m sorry your innocence was destroyed by your own parents. I truly hope you’re doing well today
She outsmarted and turned him in and then managed to turn her whole life around.What a strong,intelligent and brave woman.❤
The “you don’t act like a victim” shit pisses me the fuck off. I was raped by my “best friend” and my FEMALE police officer said I was lying because I didn’t want to look the advocate in the eye reciting my story of how I just been raped and she said “normal people who have been just been raped would be able to do that”. He went on to admit he did it PUBLICLY on social media and she still refused to do anything. Then we have a fair here every year and he saw me smiled, laughed, and waved at me. Like traumatic as fuck then you have detectives and officers who say you’re not enough of a victim.
I'm super sorry that you have to go through all of that.
To be fair this shit is one of the reasons I didn't bother trying to report my CSA to the police. I most likely have undiagnosed autism so I don't express my emotions in the typical way anyway. With trauma unless someone is actively making me talk about it I look completely fine
That doesn't even consider the fact that some people don't like eye contact for cultural or neurological reasons.
Hugs Hun. So sorry this happened to you!
@leobeboop4944 "undiagnosed autism"
Respectfully, you should go get diagnosed. Wouldn't you rather know than be walking around in limbo? If you find out you aren't, then you no longer need to use it as an excuse for certain behaviors and then you can nip them in the bud. I am in the mental health field, and a lot of folks diagnose themselves online and that's not helpful. Please, take care of yourself. There's only one you.
Considering how Lisa was treated by the police when she filed a report, I am not surprised that the man got away for so long... Sexism and rape culture have made all of this happen. Lisa is really strong! I am amazed at how she kept her composure during the torture she went through. I noted everything you said she did, just in case 🙃 even though I hope something like that doesn't happen to anybody anymore
Main reason I watch true crime is to take notes of how to survive. What to and what not to do
Lisa's story was not initially ignored by law enforcement because of sexism, if you were really paying attention.
We don't have rape culture in the west. We don't condone rape, it's not incentivized, it's not legal, there are punishments, go touch grass.
Yeah, I can't believe how the police, social services, or anyone frantically didn't rescue him as a child while his mom was having sex with strange men, in the bed she shared with child. Or the catastrophic accidents he had a little boy, I guess I would just say, sexism.
Furthermore, people comment all the time on body language and say whether complete strangers are telling the truth or not, I am certain you've done it..is that sexism? A police officer did believe her, but initially, they didn't because umm people think they are human lie detectors, and I am certain you've been guilty of this as well and have been wrong.
Rape culture? Rape happens yes but our culture (America, UK, Canada) do not support it. It is not an acceptable part of our culture. But I can tell you cultures that really just don't care.....
It blows my mind that, in the 80s, when forensic science was still a baby and there wasn't all this true crime content, Lisa was smart enough to leave her fingerprints everywhere and all the other measures she took to be able to later identify him.
And the sheer fucking resilience, not being believed by multiple people at first, and still pushing on until someone finally took her seriously...
Feeling very inspired by her today.
Great video as always
Using finger prints to solve crimes started in 1958 it wasn’t fairly new ..now dna on the other hand wasn’t
This really should be highlighted more... back then we didn't have all these CSI shows or the internet. Forensics was still developing and a lot of police depts were still getting on board so I don't think the general public wouldn't have been as familiar w these techniques as we are now.
Many people are unaware of the fact that head trauma can change a persons personality. With all the blows to his head no wonder he ended up the way he did. Very sad story.
Agree.
Exactly. I keep wondering apart from his mother, maybe Bobby's multiple head injury made him become someone like that...
Very true and many serial killers have a history of brain injuries
A sympton of frontal lobe injury is sex addiction!
Actualy all of his syptomes after his motobike actident are typical of frotal lobe damage to the brain. The front of his brain definitely had permanent and non reversable damage.
It’s really bizarre to be smiling whilst listening to such a terrible story but man, I’m just so freaking proud of Lisa! What an incredible girl ❤❤❤
I hope Lisa sees all those comments.
She is amazing and as a fellow survivor of long-term Childhood-SA I am so proud of her. Her being a cop that actually hunts those bastards - brought me to tears. You're beacon of hope. Thank you.
So glad to see you back. You're one of the true crime creators I find to be most respectful to victims. Looking forward to a new year of content!
Yes! I think her criminal justice degree, gives her a unique insight, that I don't typically find on channels with non-professional creators. While her empathetic nature gives her videos a genuine side that you don't unusually find with creators with professional backgrounds. One of my fav TC creators 😊
@hallievanoutryve3109 This may be a side note but I especially appreciate how she speaks about people with physical disabilities and/or mental illnesses. These topics come up a lot in true crime and they are often talked about ignorantly or in a stigmatizing way. As someone with a disabled partner and several family members with mental health issues I REALLY appreciate that I don't have to feel worried about misinformation and stigma when I click on her videos.
That’s exactly why I love her. She’s so empathetic and respectful ❤️❤️
I love how she pulls everything together. Her background work is equal to a whole Netflix documentary. I pray for her daily.
Agree!!! I love when there’s a new video posted cuz I can only watch the old ones soo many times but I fall asleep to her❤
What kills me the most about Bobby’s child hood is they live just the two of them and she would have sex next to her son. Disgusting and ignorant. But to live in a house with other adults and no one stepped it blows my mind. Horrible case. Lisa is such a powerful inspirational woman.
she should have been charged for child endangerment. Also people get put on the list for just peeing by a school this is much worse.
I love watching your youtube channel.. Off topic,have you ever thought of curling your hair to go with your makeup? Not disregarding the horrible story of Lisa. Bless that poor girls heart.
You know you mentioned that this wasn’t a “nice” story and most of them aren’t on your channel because of the nature of the topics. However, I consider this a win, a victim survived and found a new will to live. That’s rare and I am so glad that she’s ok
My husband and I really struggled with addiction quite a few years ago. Lost our vehicles and our home. Had to move in with family and start over. I got sober before him. Caught him being unfaithful multiple times. I sat with a loaded gun my lap and watched him sleep 3 nights in a row. I had made the decision that I was either going to off myself or him because I couldn't take it anymore. I'm so grateful everyday now that I didn't do that. Scary to think about the things we're capable of when we're mentally unstable. I am now medicated and could NEVER imagine behaving that way.
God bless you, so wonderful you are a survivor and got yourself together.
What a strong woman you have become.
Lisa is the GOAT. A silver lining to her being taken was that she got a new outlook on life. It’s still tragic she had to deal with his sick crimes, but I’m so glad she’s still here working towards making society safer place for young women and girls alike 💕
Girl you can't make this shit up- I was looking at your channel and thinking you hadn't posted in a while and the SECOND that thought entered my brain I got this notification.
Edit: I know how algorithms work. I have notifications turned on for her channel, it wasn't a surprise. I got the notification the second the video came out, which happened to be the exact minute I was looking at her recent uploads and wondering when she'd post. The timing is the coincidence, not the notif itself ❤️
Omg same that’s so scary 😳
Same Same!! Can she read our minds??
Danielle, get out of my mind. It's not safe in there, lol ❤
Your brain know
Same!!
Manifesting 😂❤
You know, what's so bad is that without all of his head trauma, he might have gone on to be "normal" in life. Even after the trauma he suffered from his mom, he was able to have a stable relationship with Cindy which leads me to believe everything that happened was a direct result of the motorcycle accident he was in. What a shame that it turned him into such a sick and twisted individual.
fr. head trauma can drastically change peoples personality, so if it wasnt for that last blow he wouldve been normal :/
Agreed.
And maybe inside it wasn’t him anymore. I belive it’s possible, he could be possessed.
The motorcycle accident caused first horrible change then second accident into telephone pole with Mary caused the second. Not an excuse by any means however one has to wonder if environment (mother) started the process and nature (accidents) caused the progression.
You cant be "possesed" daemons etc arent real. He was just an evil person. His mom started it all.@weronikaweronika3109
I am 37 weeks pregnant and Danielle, I am convinced my baby is going to recognize your voice coming out lol
Thanks for making interesting and empathetic content! I always enjoy listening to your videos
As a victim of multiple SA’s, You act differently when it’s happened multiple times. I only freaked out the first time and the one time unlawful confinement was involved. Its crazy because police rejected her story because she was acting to calm, but police rejected mine because I acted too weird. It’s almost as if there’s no “correct” way to react
So I determine recidivism in sex offenders for our judicial system, and upon reading your comment, I found myself curious. Were you in a particular situation that lead you to being abused multiple times? I.e. bad familial situation? And if not, do you think there is a reason you were targeted as a victim?
@@itskindofafunnystory...3237 I can’t speak for the person above me but i was raped multiple times as a child and the reason was because i was vulnerable child who spent most of her time outside
@mermaid-xd2us I guess you missed the part where I do this for a living. I wanted to hear that particular person's POV. I don't need information from a YT post from you. You were not who I asked. Thanks.
@@itskindofafunnystory...3237if you are someone who “does this for a living”, I would hope you’d know not to so directly ask for the intimate details of someone’s SA experience, especially on a public platform. Just because this person posted a comment divulging some aspects of their experience, that’s not an invitation to be interviewed
that girl was a damn genius. she stayed calm and used her brain instead of emotions and lived to tell the story. amen.
Danielle, I watch your videos even if I feel I “know” the story already. Because you go so deep into detail, you always surprise me with things I never knew. Thank you for doing so much research in your videos while still being respectful. It helps a lot to understand the childhood of both victim and perpetrator, as you can kind of see why they are the way they are. We love you girl! Happy Sunday everyone. Be safe and be kind to yourselves.
Edited for spelling! I think that automatically made you unheart the comment omg I’m so sad
Yeah for some reason if the RUclips creator likes your comment and then you edit it after, RUclips removes the like, I don’t know why it does it but I’ve seen it happen so many times to people.
exactly, i know most cases she covers but still i watch every single video… just waiting for her to cover the toybox killer or marc dutroux from belgium!!
I often wonder about the abusive parent, in this case, his mother, and how she feels about how her actions affected and caused her son to turn out as he did...she was no better than him. I wish the original abusers paid for THEIR part in these matters.
I was thinking that too. She should be in prison.
His mother wouldn't of given a shit about her son
i mean, his mother didn't care about him as a young child, it's very unlikely that she felt much of anything when this news came out..
I really admire Lisa for everything she did to get herself away from him alive. Not many teenage girls would think to do the things that she did. She's a beautiful woman who was too smart for her own good. Bless her. RIP to all the victims who weren't so lucky💔 💜
If u haven't saw the movie from this you should watch it was amazing. Believe me , abduction of Lisa McVey
@@rachaelleann9847 this was the first time I've ever heard of this case but I will definitely have to check it out!
The way you recount these tragedies is so pure. I love your empathy and your heart. Seriously my favorite podcast channel to listen to. Thank you for all your hard work and dedication ❤
Its honestly so sad how this guy essentially had a horrific switch flipped in his mind after a devastating accident that turned him from a relatively happy, albeit troubled married man in the military, into a deranged sex crazed murderer. Never heard of another case like this where a TBI from an accident completely morphs the killers personality in an instant into the monster he became. Maybe it was in there all along given his genetic abnormalities and traumatic upbringing, but maybe the brain injuries suffered really did turn him into a monster committing absolutely horrific crimes he never would have previously
I am literally baffled by how identical my story is to hers, as well as my approach to trauma. I’ve even been accused of lying by police, and others just because I was calm as well. People don’t understand the depth of what you are capable of once you’ve experienced such trauma. It no longer makes you feel afraid, you feel numb to it all.
you are so brave i wish you the best and i hope your able to move past what happened to you ❤️
I wonder if that puts others off. Like, can other people tap on to how confident and fearless one is
Great to see you back! Hope you had a wonderful holiday and got some much needed rest from these cases. Looking forward to what you will bring this year and hope this is a better year. 2023 has maybe been one of the worst years of my life and your videos made me having something to look forward to. Thank you for covering this case. I had suggested Lisa McVey because she reminded me of the other brave victims who survived their assaults and came out stronger.
Lisa’s story always inspired me. It is eerily similar to my life in the sense of she was a twin in foster care, then got out at seven, which is the exact age that I got out of foster care had a tumultuous life with sex abuse, and had a job at a donut shop at a young age because I was literally every single one of those things. Sometimes I look back and I appreciate that I made it through all those hard times, and those late nights walking home alone as a kid she’s a powerful and strong person. I’m glad she made it as well. Hopefully she’s healed a little bit overtime. I know it doesn’t completely go away but at least you can recover in a small way.
L is a had an inner light that hadn't been touched by her abusers. She looked different to the others. Proof that whatever the abuse...some people remain pure. Not all abused children fall into bad ways. I hope you do recover. Fully. Its possible.
you're a very strong person too ❤
@@melissamoonchild9216 wow that means so much to hear that
Lisa is amazing. She went into law enforcement. Very successful and a great human being
Lisa actually peeked under her blindfold,listening for cues where they were driving to, counting between different street lights... she deliberately leaving finger prints, hair strands, very clever
Poor Cindy though man. I’m only partially through the video but I cannot imagine experiencing such a drastic change in your partners personality 😢😢😢
Lisa is so inspiring. She fought so hard to survive. I'm so glad she chose to live that night.
Wow. Wow wow wow. Lisa truly was given a second chance, and she used it to catch a monster. I hope she is blessed for the rest of her life. Thank you for telling us about this case, Danielle. Bravo ❤
I've heard this story and admire Lisa more than i can express. She showed strength and cunning WAY beyond her years. I'm not sure if most older grown women would be able to push down their fear and panic to do what she did. Anyway, I've never heard all the details that you put into it. You do that with all of your cases and it makes you better able to relate to the story. Your hard work is appreciated. As is your sassy commentary. 😘
This was the perfect case to start the year with because in the mist of pure evil pure good emerged. Lisa is a truly good soul and an inspiration for women everywhere. She shows no matter how bad it gets life is worth living you just have to stay focused and keep fighting. I'm sure she has helped many more in many ways and is spreading love everywhere she goes
It's so devastating how one head injury too many can turn a troubled young man into a total monster. Poor Cindy...
I'm so excited you're covering this case! I know I've recommended it in the past. Lisa is a smart and brave badass!
Believe Me: The Abduction of Lisa McVey this is the exact movie about everything you just mentioned but you did it in so much more detail , well done Danielle I never missed an episode of yours ❤️
I had thought I recognized some details about Bobby’s prior assaults and victims found, listening to Danielle talk about Lisa’s experience and abduction made me really remember the film about her story and it leading to Bobby Joe Long’s capture. What a vile man.. Glad Danielle could cast more light on his unfortunate victims and share Lisa’s powerful life story
Is it on Netflix?
Wow Danielle you came back with such an incredible case! You told the victim and survivor stories so well with so much compassion. The way you tell these stories truly makes you feel the gravity of these tragic stories.
It’s easy to in some way become desensitised to these stories, especially if you’re a daily crime content consumer like myself.. but you really have a special way of sharing these people’s story
Thank you for all that you do to provide us with content and if you need more time to detach and spend with your loved ones, we will definitely wait until you’re ready to start back up
Being consumed in content like this is hard and you cover exceptionally heavy cases, so take care and no pressure to return from us at all! ❤
The part about the last accident Bobby Joe Long was in and how afterwards he had an extreme shift in behavior made me think about a common case study we learned in intro to psychology about a man named Phineas Gage. In short, he was an American railroad construction worker in the 1800's who suffered severe trauma to the head, where an iron rod was shoved right through his head. Afterwards, he experienced an extreme shift in behavior, from having a relatively "normal" temperament to extremely angry and easily aggravated. This case study was some of the first evidence on record for where emotion was controlled in the brain. I'm so curious - what would have happened if he never experienced that injury? Would all of this have been avoided? If this case happened today, would this be a talking point in the trial?
Truly heartbreaking case, thank you Danielle for bringing awareness. Always looking forward to your Sunday uploads!!
God bless Lisa. What a miracle. Turning everything terrible around to help others! You go girl!
Please consider doing the Shonda Vander Ark case. It's a case of neglect and abuse of her 15 year old special needs son. The trail wrapped up about 2-3 weeks ago, here in Michigan. Thanks for considering Danielle! Happy New Year to you!
I'm from Michigan, and I've never heard of this. 😢 poor kid
the end of this video made me so emotional. lisa is so incredibly strong & smart, i’m in awe. rest in peace to all the victims.
I think his mom needs to be held accountable too. If you were abusing/neglecting your kids and they become serial killers, the parents should be arrested or have to pay money to the families of the victims. I hate how these people (sometimes) knowingly create rapists/serial killers. There’s as much blame on them as the killer, bc in retrospect they wouldn’t have been like that if parents weren’t assholes.
I mean how far back should we go with the blame though? I mean what about his mother's abuse? She was supposedly sexually abused her entire childhood and only married his father to get away from her stepfather who was raping her. Then we could likely look into both the grandmother and the stepfather's past and I'm sure we would discover more abuse there as well. Hurt people often go on to hurt people. I completely get the urge to yearn for accountability but I am just not sure how practical it is...
I understand your feelings but it's likely a cycle of abuse. It most times does not start with the parent, it's usually a generational issue.
Sometimes it's generational purely based on the fact that it's been normalized to them and they don't even know what normal boundaries are. They sometimes don't even see what they're doing as abusive but just, life. 😑
@@sarahalderman3126 hold everyone who’s still alive accountable perhaps?
Maybe none of this would happen if this country would take mental health seriously, destigmatize it, and make it more affordable.
@@ma.2089 exactly lmfao
Most psychopaths have a smaller than normal prefrontal cortex. This means that they are not as good at higher process reasoning, analysis, and by having willpower and control over their emotions.
This not only impairs the IQ, it makes the individual more susceptible to manipulation.
This does go to show when you meet someone with a psychopathic brain (smaller prefrontal cortex) who is actually well-adjusted, usually you will find a strong support structure that enforced boundaries and a connection to community in their upbringing.
Kinda scary to think about how isolated kids are nowadays. Seems like the perfect society to breed more violent uncaring psychopaths.
Seeing the picture of Lisa as a grown adult in her police uniform took my breath away. How amazing. Such a strong, strong woman. And her speech is beautiful.
I've followed this case for a while! So glad u covered it!
U should do shanda sharer. She was a 12 year old girl who was brutally killed by her ex girlfriend's ex girlfriend. 4 teenage girls tortured and beat her for hours. Her story is harrowing. And I think u would be so good at telling it. The respect and compassion u have for the victims is exactly what shandas story needs. Thanks for everything u do danielle! ❤❤❤
I'm hoping Danielle covers it soon.
One of the worst cases I’ve listened to. And I’ve cycled through Danielle, Stephanie Harlowe, Eleanor Neale, Sherrilyn Dale and of course Bailey Sarian.
Yes, it's horrible and there's barely any coverage.
I think disturban covered it but I’m not sure I just know a RUclipsr I watch covered it
Annie elise as well I love how they told the story and they’re very empathetic as well
A happy New Year to you and welcome back. Thanks for this case. I've seen it many times and if sassy Danielle comes out I don't blame you. Just like other serial killers he could've been stopped and lots of his crimes could've been prevented. This case makes my blood boil and this monster makes me sick. I'm glad Lisa survived and I hope she's doing great.
I have never heard so much details on this case before and geez, what a backstory. Good job to Lisa for bringing down this horrible man. Thank you, for this case Danielle ❤
Have u ever saw the movie from this case ? It's awesome Believe Me is the name of it
Not only was Bobby’s mum grotty but the men who thought it was ok to get off next to a child. I think the difunctional people started way back before his mum
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Thank you, I will check it out soon.
Lisa was extremely brave and the fact that she became an official is amazing!
Missed you beautiful Danielle, but hope you were able to relax a bit. You are by far my favorite true crimes presenter. I love your compassion, passion and spunk. I love your wonderful expressions. I spend time thinking about your impressive and important presentations and find myself praying for all those who suffer such horrific injustices. I pray more people listen to your channel to be more vigilant and kinder. You are such a blessing Danielle. Love you.
I’m so happy to hear how Lisa’s life turned around. What an amazing woman.
I knew it would be Bobby Joe Long as soon as I read the title. Lisa's story has always been so interesting to me. I have no idea what I would've done if I had been in her situation when I was 17. The movie about her story where she's portrayed by Katie Douglas is incredible. Definitely recommend to anyone who hasn't seen it
Even though I've heard this story from other TC creators, I still learned something new from your coverage of it. You never cease to amaze me with your attention to detail, compassion and respect towards the victims & survivors.🥰✌🏽
okay, so this ending with his only survivor telling her story, made me sniffle. her strength is undeniable and I'm so happy she is thriving and not a victim!! Justice was served!!
Lisa is incredible. Her intelligence and strength is unbelievable. Florida is lucky to have her as an officer to serve and protect their children. 👏
Watching him speak its terrifying. He is speaking like he is talking about the weather.... only he is detailing the last minutes of multiple people's lives
Thank you for this case because I’m so inspired and honored to know of Lisa Mcveys life . She’s truly a survivor and protector of women and children. Can you imagine if she hadn’t been so intelligent to do what she did to get away and then help the police catch him ? He would possibly have many more victims?! God bless her and protect her 🙏🏼!!! May her courage inspire us to be as brave as she. And may all the other victims rip .
So happy you’re back!! Case suggestion from Australia is Ivan Milat. Very infamous serial killer who hid bodies in a forest 👀
Way too many people go through so much abuse in their young lives. It’s absolutely horrible. I am glad this story had a different ending for at least one person.
I’m in full on tears now at the ending of this video/case! 😢😭😭😭 What a brave and courageous woman she was and how her life changed from such a tragic and traumatic experience! She wanted to end her life and this evil man made her want to live. Truly remarkable!!! And the fact that your video was an hour, 11 minutes and 11 seconds is so interesting and symbolic. Angel numbers 🥹🙏🏽🫶🏽 Happy New Year Danielle!! 🥂
The amount of head trauma this man had- no wonder he became a complete monster. Personalities ALWAYS change for the WORST when it comes to serious head trauma.
I work with individuals who struggle with trauma and abuse daily. Unfortunate as it is, they have many larger hurdles in life. Even though she will have struggles this story gives me the most satisfaction over any true crime story that I’ve ever heard based on the fact that she was able to become even more of a TOTAL BADASS after her tragic experience. Since I work with people who are at their lowest of lows, people like her, are the reason so many others find hope. Danielle , this was one of the best way to start the new year and honestly probably inspired so many people.
Glad to see you back! I'm a new subscriber and have been binge watching your videos during the holiday break. I would really like to see your coverage on the Lori Vallow case, even though it's pretty well known, you're one of the few youtubers I feel would give it justice and be respectful in your coverage. I would also like for you to cover the Burari deaths. It's a devastating case, and there's not a lot of coverage. love your videos!
Lisa is so so smart, not just for her age. All the little details that she could think of at such a scary scenario, amazing!
Lisa is amazing. So incredibly impressed by how she took control of her life.
So ecstatic that you're back!
You are my absolute favorite content creator and I feel like my life is back on track now that you're back. I sincerely hope 2024 is kind to you and starts off better than 2023 seemed to end for you.
Could you cover the case of Diane Downs? I recently heard this case, but the detail was minimal and it would be phenomenal to hear all of the detail and emotion you put into your videos, and to learn any and all potential psychological aspects that may be behind her actions. 💕
Lisa is just incredible. I saw the film based on her story and was delighted when she appeared at the end as an adult. What she went through is horrific and I don’t know how she managed to stay so strong
What a case to start with in 2024, Danielle! This one had me going through a whole range of feelings! I had never even heard about this story before, and as usual, your ability to tell these stories is second to none! You convey such empathy and such powerful emotions that I’m unable to stop watching until the very end! This one was particularly harrowing and yet, empowering at the same time. The strength of Lisa and her self control to keep her cool to ensure he was caught, whether she made it out alive or not, was just awesome! Such a perfect story of the ultimate monster defeated by a brilliant victim. Even better when said victim is a woman!
I swear I come away from your videos having learned something new about staying safe and you always put your heart and soul into your work. And it shows!
Happy New Year and I’m so looking forward to more of your videos/stories. You’re one in a million, Danielle! Love you!!! ❤❤❤
I legit teared up when you said what Lisa is doing now. I’m very happy she’s created her own family and is living a purpose driven life.
Lisa is an amazing person and survivor! It infuriates me how many people failed her. But she stood up for herself, and took this monster down.
Incredibly sad that peoples fight or flight responses are different because of brutal harmful treatment/neglect/abuse. Lisa is an amazing inspiration. This really shouldn’t have happened.
Can’t believe how strong and smart Lisa is. She’s a true legend!!
AHHHH- Danielle has posted it’s going to be a great day. This one sounds daunting, heard it broken down on other channels but I had to hear Danielle break it down! Thank you Danielle for all your work and I hope your holidays were well!
Wow.. Lisa is just rock solid. She is truly an inspiration. Rest In Peace to the Victims, known and unknown and prayers of healing to the Survivors still out there. It got me thinking though, with so many attacks it would be nothing short of a miracle if there were no babies conceived in these attacks. If there was I hope they never found out what conceived them.
what an amazing woman Lisa is. just unbelievable, all she suffered and she took that pain and turned it into a beautiful thing... she is heroic
I’m so excited your back and this case just blows my mind. This girl, she was just a child and she just wow! What a great case to bring in the New Year! And I just have to say, you’re my favorite RUclipsr. I recently found you a few months ago and I literally watch you every morning with my cup of tea while doing my makeup for work!
It’s almost as if the universe was trying to wipe him out before he could start his horrific crimes.
I’m loving the title of this one. Let’s get the closest to a feel good true crime story we can! Girl power!
It’s so sad that, had the police listened to her when she got home from Bobby’s, the last girl would probably still have been alive.
I also doubt that any of the cops who said she was lying due to being “too calm” - never got held accountable of allowing that last girl to die.
early childhood development is so significant in every case. Both caregivers are important in modeling and guiding appropriate behaviour.
Woo-hoo! I have been feeling depressed, watching you is my comfort show!! So excited you posted today! ❤🎉
Happy New Year Danielle! I subscribed to your channel like a year ago, but in the last month I’ve been binge watching all your videos and I have to say that you are by far my favorite true crime channel, not to mention how talented you are with makeup!
I've questioned why I listen and I feel it is because of the respect you show the victims of the vile monsters you explore
Lisa is such an inspiration. What an amazing young woman.
For case suggestions, please could you cover some Australian crimes?
Agree. There are some psychotic serial killers here such as the back packer murders
I just realised, I consumed your conrent regularly for far over a year now. Your pleasant and calm voice and way to describe things make it very easy to follow these stories, even though I'm no native English speaker (or listener in this case).
Thank you, for all the work you put into your content, to make our Sunday evening almost every week. ♥️
Oh, and I would be very interested in a coverage of the case of Luca Magnotta. Many could know him from Netflix's "Don't f'ck with cats". Or a case as big as the one of Richard Ramírez would be interesting too.
Makes you wonder if this man didn't hit his head so often if he'd still be the same person. ..but at the same time, his mother was probably the biggest reason he became what he became.. how sad. Love your channel Danielle, glad you're back😊
I feel like that last head injury changed his whole personality even though he saw all that abuse with his mother the neglect it seemed like he changed when he met his girlfriend/wife he was still angry but only towards his mother and maybe the fights got into at school but that Last head injury his whole personality changed he didn't care so much for his wife or for anyone else. So I feel like if he hadn't had suffered the last head injury he probably would've lived a normal life with his wife the brain is one big mystery we will never figure out
Lisa's life reflects mine in many ways. It makes me so sad. I'm so glad she survived all of that and had the strength to play Bobby at his own game.
I’m super late today. Didn’t expect you to upload today. I’d love to see your coverage of Natasha Cornett, Alvin and Judith Neeley, Crystal Howell, and Rachael Mullenix. All these cases are barely covered and I love when you cover cases that aren’t really covered.
i can’t believe no one’s talking about the movie/short film they did about her case. it was done really well and i think it’s just like a made for tv type thing but i definitely recommend it