Fun discussion! Also, I feel honored to be quoted lol 😂 I've been a paper and pen (or crayon) person since I was too young to read ... scribbling and rubber stamping led to keeping notebooks and so on!!! I love being able to look back in my extensive bullet journals ... to see what I was doing and studying ... in addition to numbered pages and indexing ... I recommend ALWAYS dating the entry!!!! Even with book notes ... as this comes in handy when looking back!!!!
I have a torn up beat up hot pink small notebook I use for all my fiber arts notes. It's great! I can look back five years and see how I've changed as a human and an artist. It's always in my bag!
Couple of quick thoughts: folders: I love the ones that are sealed on three sides. Papers stay safe inside. I also like A5 portfolios that zip for travel. Buy no rings, no ring binders. For digital, I like OneNote but prefer Google Drive, with Docs and spreadsheets and Keep. Notebooks are too limiting. You are always interesting, thank you
The ones with three sides are wonderful for backpacks when you have to transport the material! For me the rings and ring binders contain material that's not going to move around except from shelf to desk and back to shelf. Google Drive is a useful product, but my usage is pretty limited.
Famously, Marcus Aurelis kept his journal not with intent of it to be published publicly. Shrewd as he was, he noted that never to write anything down that you wish kept secret. It did.
I envy people who really utilize a notebook or journal. I keep a journal but forget about it for long periods of time. I really do try to use an EDC notebook but I'm just not the kind of person to whip out my notebook, every time something occurs to me. I do have a planner; on my kitchen counter; for doctor appointments, etc. If I'm stranded somewhere; with time on my hands; I'd rather read a book. I kind of feel left out of the journal/planner craze. I really enjoyed your views on a notebook as a legal document.
I have a 10 year journal. I was wonderful with it until school ended. It's a hard habit for me. I will write down my idea. But I'm like you: I keep a book with me so I have something to read during any down time. As for the planner: I use it the most often during school.
I've gradually built up over quite a few years a stack of still-unused Moleskine lined notebooks to use for keeping my diary, many given to me by a relative for Christmas. Then I learned on another YT channel that the quality of Moleskine books has gone downhill since the company started outsourcing production; that the books are no longer good for fountain pen use. I'm doing OK in my current Moleskine using ball-point and rollerball/gel pens.
1. As long as I can type 4 times as fast as I can handwrite, and cut/paste exists, I'll use my laptop to create and store text. 2. I considered EverNote, but ended up with SimpleNote, because it's free and adequate. I store short texts there. 3. Notebooks with page numbers and pages at the front for a Table of Contents are the bomb. 4. For drawing, I use sketchbooks, and find getting the size precisely right is important. I have about 4 sizes.
Laptops are perfect for the finished product. I've wondered if I would like a mechanical keyboard better. But definitely typing is faster than writing. I like handwriting for brainstorming/notes. For text, I want to type. Evernote suited my needs better, and I've been invested in the ecosystem for a long time. I have so much there I would struggle to migrate to a different platform. Yes, notebooks that think of page numbering are wonderful! I don't do much drawing, but it is something I want to do.
the new owners of Evernote grind my gears, apparently they laid off all their US staff after they acquired the product. Now that it’s no longer its own thing i’m reconsidering what i want to use moving forward.
The firing was a horrible first step, especially since the US staff had already done so much to make Evernote a far better program than it had been in years. For now I'll continue using it, mainly because I'm so invested in the platform. Moving would be incredibly painful.
Thanks for this! I journal and always have pocket notebooks around. I can be quite sporadic in Journaling/ noting (is that a word?) But Always find value in reading back over journals and notes. Goto now for travels is a Field Notes dot grid memo book (occasionally their 72 pg journal / sketch book) and a vintage Esterbrook mech pencil or fisher space pen or one of my favorite Noodler's FPs. (Usually my #10 Dixie ebonite...never dries out!) Keep on scribbling!
Hah! Although I don't journal, and generally don't like the plethora of notebook and journal reviews, as opposed to paper for writing letters and such, you found my only "weakness" regarding bound paper. Notebooks for jotting down things. As you said, a "second brain." 😁 For this use, you certainly don't need high end "fountain pen friendly" paper. Jotting down memory joggers? Cheap cam be fine. Just don't recommend any fancy inks for this. No glitter, no "special properties." Highly recommend Parker Quink, Waterman, Sheaffer, Diamine's standard line, and the like, for this. Just choose your notebooks wisely. El cheapo is awesome, if it's decent paper. I regularly use a Walmart Pen+Gear pocket notebook. Indian or Vietnamese paper, so it generally works well for fountain pens. This seems to be a theme from those who review "alternative paper." Not Walmart per se, India and Vietnam for paper. Won't generally showcase shimmer or sheen, but they work. Ironically, my first current discovery of decent cheap paper was journaling. Was in therapy, and the therapist wanted EVERYTHING jounaled, and gave out cheap composition notebooks for this. My almost religious use of exclusively a fountain pen, with a standard Diamine ink? No badness, though a dark enough ink and thin enough paper I only used one side. And, for just scratching down notes? Who cares if it's only on one side, if the paper is cheap enough?😉 Shop around. Don't always need Tomoe River. 😁 (And get you some writing paper. It's been a while since you contacted your cousin Abinadab. Write them!😉)
Thank you so much. That was an excellent video and obviously very carefully prepared. I was interested in the security aspect of note-taking. It would seem the electronic storage of notes is more secure. Not only protected by a password but also can be easily copied onto a memory card should the tablet fail or become corrupted. What concerns me is when notes are used as evidence in a legal situation and can they be altered at a later date? Such manipulation of evidence is difficult to hide when records are made using pen and paper. I am not so sure if a report held on an electronic device can be trusted. Surely notes can be added or deleted without trace unlike pen and paper?
You brought up an interesting point about paper vs. electronic. Usually electronic files show the time of their latest edit. But a good hacker can usually find a way around it. Paper records can be falsified, but it's a lot trickier.
I love the Microsoft to do app its a check list super simple you mkae a note in tic list form and you check them off they move to the bottom of the pile and if you ever need them again you can uncheck the box and it will move to where it was in the alphabetical list you can make it un alphabetical or you can make it by time or date and you can make several lists thats what I like about it do you use microsoft to do ? let me know
Yeah, there are apps for just about anything you can imagine, regarding text management. Many are free or even built in. I like SimpleNote, which is free.
I tried electronic todo lists, and I've tried the Microsoft version. It makes a satisfying noise when you complete a task. I use the My Deep Guide planner on my reMarkable tablet. It seems to work best for me.
The reMarkable is NOT secure: There's no encryption for files or the filesystem. (I have lodged tickets about this repeatedly, and they seem to not care ... even though this is *completely* unacceptable. Tablet's pretty great, otherwise, though.)
Fun discussion! Also, I feel honored to be quoted lol 😂
I've been a paper and pen (or crayon) person since I was too young to read ... scribbling and rubber stamping led to keeping notebooks and so on!!!
I love being able to look back in my extensive bullet journals ... to see what I was doing and studying ... in addition to numbered pages and indexing ... I recommend ALWAYS dating the entry!!!! Even with book notes ... as this comes in handy when looking back!!!!
I've come to appreciate a little organization and dating. It really helps put things into perspective.
I have a torn up beat up hot pink small notebook I use for all my fiber arts notes. It's great! I can look back five years and see how I've changed as a human and an artist. It's always in my bag!
Glad to hear that! Sometimes old notes/writing are a mine for ideas. Sometimes it seems like they come from an alien.
I just love your videos! I don't know what took me so long. I use the back of my planner for project notes.
Thank you! Glad to hear you're able to use so much of your planner.
Couple of quick thoughts: folders: I love the ones that are sealed on three sides. Papers stay safe inside. I also like A5 portfolios that zip for travel. Buy no rings, no ring binders.
For digital, I like OneNote but prefer Google Drive, with Docs and spreadsheets and Keep. Notebooks are too limiting. You are always interesting, thank you
The ones with three sides are wonderful for backpacks when you have to transport the material! For me the rings and ring binders contain material that's not going to move around except from shelf to desk and back to shelf.
Google Drive is a useful product, but my usage is pretty limited.
Thanks. Many good thoughts and ideas.
I'm glad you found it useful!
Famously, Marcus Aurelis kept his journal not with intent of it to be published publicly. Shrewd as he was, he noted that never to write anything down that you wish kept secret. It did.
That's good advice. Once it's written down, it could be read. If you say it, you can deny saying it. If you only think it, nobody knows.
I envy people who really utilize a notebook or journal. I keep a journal but forget about it for long periods of time. I really do try to use an EDC notebook but I'm just not the kind of person to whip out my notebook, every time something occurs to me. I do have a planner; on my kitchen counter; for doctor appointments, etc. If I'm stranded somewhere; with time on my hands; I'd rather read a book. I kind of feel left out of the journal/planner craze. I really enjoyed your views on a notebook as a legal document.
I have a 10 year journal. I was wonderful with it until school ended. It's a hard habit for me.
I will write down my idea. But I'm like you: I keep a book with me so I have something to read during any down time.
As for the planner: I use it the most often during school.
I've gradually built up over quite a few years a stack of still-unused Moleskine lined notebooks to use for keeping my diary, many given to me by a relative for Christmas. Then I learned on another YT channel that the quality of Moleskine books has gone downhill since the company started outsourcing production; that the books are no longer good for fountain pen use. I'm doing OK in my current Moleskine using ball-point and rollerball/gel pens.
Yeah, Moleskine has a dreadful reputation amongst fountain pen users.
Moleskine isn't wonderful paper. In some notebooks, I can only use one side of the page. But for notes it doesn't bother me too much.
1. As long as I can type 4 times as fast as I can handwrite, and cut/paste exists, I'll use my laptop to create and store text.
2. I considered EverNote, but ended up with SimpleNote, because it's free and adequate. I store short texts there.
3. Notebooks with page numbers and pages at the front for a Table of Contents are the bomb.
4. For drawing, I use sketchbooks, and find getting the size precisely right is important. I have about 4 sizes.
Laptops are perfect for the finished product. I've wondered if I would like a mechanical keyboard better. But definitely typing is faster than writing. I like handwriting for brainstorming/notes. For text, I want to type.
Evernote suited my needs better, and I've been invested in the ecosystem for a long time. I have so much there I would struggle to migrate to a different platform.
Yes, notebooks that think of page numbering are wonderful!
I don't do much drawing, but it is something I want to do.
I never start electronic: give me my traveler’s notebook anyday!:)
It depends on the function for me. But I agree: I need to handwrite. Finding a handwritten planner that is electronic was a perfect compromise for me.
Have you see Austin Kleon’s video about notebooks? Great stuff.
I have not, but it sounds like there is something important to search up on RUclips!
Interesting discussion. Thanks. Personally, i just find it a lot easier to think with a pen in my hand.
Agreed! Pen and paper is ideal thinking material!
the new owners of Evernote grind my gears, apparently they laid off all their US staff after they acquired the product. Now that it’s no longer its own thing i’m reconsidering what i want to use moving forward.
The firing was a horrible first step, especially since the US staff had already done so much to make Evernote a far better program than it had been in years.
For now I'll continue using it, mainly because I'm so invested in the platform. Moving would be incredibly painful.
Thanks for this! I journal and always have pocket notebooks around. I can be quite sporadic in Journaling/ noting (is that a word?) But Always find value in reading back over journals and notes. Goto now for travels is a Field Notes dot grid memo book (occasionally their 72 pg journal / sketch book) and a vintage Esterbrook mech pencil or fisher space pen or one of my favorite Noodler's FPs. (Usually my #10 Dixie ebonite...never dries out!) Keep on scribbling!
Absolutely! Writing it down in a notebook keeps it safe for access later.
Hah! Although I don't journal, and generally don't like the plethora of notebook and journal reviews, as opposed to paper for writing letters and such, you found my only "weakness" regarding bound paper. Notebooks for jotting down things. As you said, a "second brain." 😁
For this use, you certainly don't need high end "fountain pen friendly" paper. Jotting down memory joggers? Cheap cam be fine. Just don't recommend any fancy inks for this. No glitter, no "special properties." Highly recommend Parker Quink, Waterman, Sheaffer, Diamine's standard line, and the like, for this.
Just choose your notebooks wisely. El cheapo is awesome, if it's decent paper. I regularly use a Walmart Pen+Gear pocket notebook. Indian or Vietnamese paper, so it generally works well for fountain pens. This seems to be a theme from those who review "alternative paper." Not Walmart per se, India and Vietnam for paper. Won't generally showcase shimmer or sheen, but they work.
Ironically, my first current discovery of decent cheap paper was journaling. Was in therapy, and the therapist wanted EVERYTHING jounaled, and gave out cheap composition notebooks for this. My almost religious use of exclusively a fountain pen, with a standard Diamine ink? No badness, though a dark enough ink and thin enough paper I only used one side. And, for just scratching down notes? Who cares if it's only on one side, if the paper is cheap enough?😉
Shop around. Don't always need Tomoe River. 😁 (And get you some writing paper. It's been a while since you contacted your cousin Abinadab. Write them!😉)
I agree! In my notes, I'm happy with a wide array of paper. For many years, I even did notes on the back of printouts.
Thank you so much. That was an excellent video and obviously very carefully prepared. I was interested in the security aspect of note-taking. It would seem the electronic storage of notes is more secure. Not only protected by a password but also can be easily copied onto a memory card should the tablet fail or become corrupted. What concerns me is when notes are used as evidence in a legal situation and can they be altered at a later date? Such manipulation of evidence is difficult to hide when records are made using pen and paper. I am not so sure if a report held on an electronic device can be trusted. Surely notes can be added or deleted without trace unlike pen and paper?
You brought up an interesting point about paper vs. electronic. Usually electronic files show the time of their latest edit. But a good hacker can usually find a way around it. Paper records can be falsified, but it's a lot trickier.
Grid pattern Tomoe River paper is my favourite. Though I find it difficult to get.
I use a lot of reporter size pads.
The reporter pads are interesting, and quite functional for their purpose.
I’m partial to Lamy softcover booklets and the 8 mm line is easier for me to write and read.
Some people like the wider lines. I know when the lines are too narrow, I tend to use them to line up my writing, not as containers for it.
I love the Microsoft to do app its a check list super simple you mkae a note in tic list form and you check them off they move to the bottom of the pile and if you ever need them again you can uncheck the box and it will move to where it was in the alphabetical list you can make it un alphabetical or you can make it by time or date and you can make several lists thats what I like about it do you use microsoft to do ? let me know
Yeah, there are apps for just about anything you can imagine, regarding text management. Many are free or even built in. I like SimpleNote, which is free.
@@ichirofakename so is Microsoft to do :) and way simpler
I tried electronic todo lists, and I've tried the Microsoft version. It makes a satisfying noise when you complete a task.
I use the My Deep Guide planner on my reMarkable tablet. It seems to work best for me.
Well hello! Aren't you up earlay in tha mor-nin.
I schedule these ahead of time. Believe me, I was fast asleep!
The reMarkable is NOT secure: There's no encryption for files or the filesystem.
(I have lodged tickets about this repeatedly, and they seem to not care ... even though this is *completely* unacceptable. Tablet's pretty great, otherwise, though.)
That's a good point on security. It would be more correct to say that the security is good enough for my needs.