Hey Shane! We appreciate the honest review! It's awesome to hear how much you like your old ketal. We would love to hear your opinion of the new ketal when you have a chance to get some use out of it! If you have any issues don't hesitate to reach out to us and we will get you taken care of!
Make it so that the kettle lid opening is slightly larger so that the gsi outdoors steel 1.1 liter boiler can fit in it to make them stackable and a perfect 4 person, cook system.
Thanks for the comment. I’m sticking by my guns. Your company has always in the past out so much detail in the small areas that could yet like hinges and tack welds even the neoprene sleeves that are easy to clean and and allow a persons to pack away gear almost Immediately after cleaning/ usage etc. the old school kettle was a bomb proof item that avid outdoors people bought because it was so rigid. I don’t have a number of sales etc for the kettle but I know this, quality items will sell in the outdoor community. We want items that will take a beating and can be passed down. Your stainless products could be the pinnacle of outdoor gear, more so that it already is. You know the industry your selling to. I’m only one guy with a little voice, I will run this kettle though the paces along with some of the other stuff I ordered from your site. I want to believe you are still the GSI that I have relied on so many time while having outdoor adventures.
The Ketalist 2 kit is such a great product. Unbeatable value and performance in the lightweight Halulite kit. Most folk will use a lightweight alcohol burner with this product especially in fire-sensitive areas, so they’re hardly likely to melt the silicone handle coverings. The thought that has gone into the design (saving weight) are very well executed without compromise. It is not a huge let-down as is being suggested here. I prefer the new product. The Halulite model has riveted handle bosses, not spot welds as shown on the stainless kettle here, I’m sure the weld spots are equally as good as they were in the original kettle, though; it even comes with a mesh bag, so you don’t lose the lid, if you decide that you don’t want to carry an elastic band to retain it (which could also be achieved by a slight outward tweak of the lid rim with a pliers - but remember, you do need to fill the kettle and put any stove items and cups inside it when transporting, so if doing so - don’t overdo it!). Either way, it’s totally perfect for the design purpose, ie to boil water, not to fend off a bear attack! Hats off to GSI, and at under 12.5 ounces all up - check it out.
I noticed this a while ago. I’ve been replacing the kettles in my Trangia 25 kits with these for years. Luckily three out of my four kits have the older style. There was a while where I couldn’t find the standalone kettles. Eventually I picked up a kettalist and ditched the cups. Either version will hold the alcohol burner, pot gripper AND the generic butane burner. The standard aluminum Trangia 25 kettle will also hold these items but it’s trickier loading. I can thankfully report that the new one DOES still fit in a 25, even with the cutting board. I haven’t used it a ton honestly but it seems ok. I see what you’re saying though.
See if you can find an old School Ketalist or check out this kettle. It’s beefy and stainless steel. I use it in my Hot Tent firemaplegear.com/products/antarcti-stainless-steel-kettle
I was looking at that pretty hard the other day. I was almost tempted to get it but I have cook sets I know what to do with 🤣🤣 Thanks for the video brother
Awesome Review,,, I think,,, Compared to your other videos, the recording volume is quite low,,, or your speaking very softly,,, I’ll try to listen when Iam out of this Tractor,,,,
Thanks man sorry. It was a 3am video. Lol. I got home from work and opened it up. I’ll be using it this week to get use out of it and see what it can go through.
@@Thereal111t no but I checked your RUclips channel and that’s a great price. I also subscribed. I think I’ll get one for that price you can’t go wrong. I have a Trangia 27 already but hey, one can never have enough camping gear lol. Thanks!
@@Shanecoffeyoutdoors Yeah that older GSI you've got looks to have a little bigger opening than the fire Maple. And looks a little easier to cook in and clean. It's contoured less on the sides. I do like the concave lid for coals on the fire Maple lid .
The new version looks and feels cheap. Just bought one cause I saw it in many videos. When i got it i was shocked. Those handle holders will poke the shit out of any backpack and overall it feels so terrible. I hate it and will send it back. If this is the alternative I will boil my stuff in a pot and done.
Great comparison Shane. My issue with the new one is the D Ring on the lid does not stand up on it's own which can make it difficult to remove the lid, especially when it is hot. I guess time will tell on the rest of your concerns, but I will agree that the original version (I have as well) seams to a little more robust. I am not planning on using then new version on anything other than a stove so I am not concerned about the plastic coating melting on the handle.
For sure man. I’ll be running it through the paces to see how it hold up. I want to do the company justice since they deserve it. One way or the other. They have always had solid stuff. I’m just not sure about this one.
This kettle is better. The reason why the handle hinges move is so that the handle can stay fixed unlike the first one. You seem to be knitpicking. I have the old and new ones. The new one's lid doesn't fall out like yours when you put it sideways.
Oh yeah. I know I’m knitpicking. I’ll 100% admit that I was really let down from what I expected. I will still stay the course and use it. Who knows, I may come to love it, I’ll also do an update video and correct anything that changes. Like I said in the video. I can’t believe they would change the design and make it worse. Time will tell. Thanks for commenting.
@@Shanecoffeyoutdoors I get it. I am the same way when something that I previously had changes I tend to have a hard time with it. I felt the same when GSI didn't push the stainless steel stuff as much as the aluminum stuff. I actually had a hard time finding the 1.1 liter stainless steel cooking pot that I use when I want more space. You want to talk about disappointed? Just put the stainless steel kettle and cook pot next to the aluminum counterparts and you'll see where GSI really skimped out on the products. Either way, keep the great content coming!
@@GSIOutdoorsLLC If I may suggest something that would be awesome for the camper who has a bigger cook kit that would make the kettle and the gsi outdoors steel 1.1 boiler fit perfectly together would be to make the kettles pot lid opening slightly larger so that the steel 1.1 boiler would fit in it and could be stacked. There are times when I have a few friends outdoors and have both pots with me but they are too cumbersome to carry together all the time because of it.
Tippy lids on a kettle is a deal breaker for me. Although I’m sure the new one can be fixed with a pair of needle nose pliers. Also never cared for a piece of camp cookware that I can’t pitch in the fire without concern.
You can. You just can not buy the Ketalist kit with the older version. It’s almost like a marketing ploy. Buy our original stand alone kettle for more money. Lol 🤷♂️
Shane, I thought about you the other day when I was selling my XRV 750 Honda Africa Twin. We had a mega powercut and I had to fish out a camp kettle to give the buyer a cup of tea. Got your supercub yet? F
Shane…nice videos. what’s your take on fire maple kettle 1liter / 1.5liter. Is that better than gsi stainless kettle . The mouth on the fire maple is a bit smaller than gsi. Firemaple is a cheaper alternative to the Norwegian eagle brand kettle.
I have the fireMaple and i love it. I just wish the lid was larger. Other than that, I use it quite a bit. I have the fireMaple kettle and the cook pot that it nests in. Such an awesome kit.
OK...I MISTAKENLY THOUGHT. you were gonna give a critique, you're worse than my little kids...thanks but no thanks.. BTW... Wheres my package..its still missing...UPS.. Go FedEx..or go home
Hey Shane! We appreciate the honest review! It's awesome to hear how much you like your old ketal. We would love to hear your opinion of the new ketal when you have a chance to get some use out of it! If you have any issues don't hesitate to reach out to us and we will get you taken care of!
Make it so that the kettle lid opening is slightly larger so that the gsi outdoors steel 1.1 liter boiler can fit in it to make them stackable and a perfect 4 person, cook system.
Thanks for the comment. I’m sticking by my guns. Your company has always in the past out so much detail in the small areas that could yet like hinges and tack welds even the neoprene sleeves that are easy to clean and and allow a persons to pack away gear almost
Immediately after cleaning/ usage etc. the old school kettle was a bomb proof item that avid outdoors people bought because it was so rigid. I don’t have a number of sales etc for the kettle but I know this, quality items will sell in the outdoor community. We want items that will take a beating and can be passed down. Your stainless products could be the pinnacle of outdoor gear, more so that it already is. You know the industry your selling to. I’m only one guy with a little voice, I will run this kettle though the paces along with some of the other stuff I ordered from your site. I want to believe you are still the GSI that I have relied on so many time while having outdoor adventures.
@@Shanecoffeyoutdoors Thanks for having an open mind! We will do our best to always have your back gear wise!
The Ketalist 2 kit is such a great product. Unbeatable value and performance in the lightweight Halulite kit. Most folk will use a lightweight alcohol burner with this product especially in fire-sensitive areas, so they’re hardly likely to melt the silicone handle coverings. The thought that has gone into the design (saving weight) are very well executed without compromise. It is not a huge let-down as is being suggested here. I prefer the new product. The Halulite model has riveted handle bosses, not spot welds as shown on the stainless kettle here, I’m sure the weld spots are equally as good as they were in the original kettle, though; it even comes with a mesh bag, so you don’t lose the lid, if you decide that you don’t want to carry an elastic band to retain it (which could also be achieved by a slight outward tweak of the lid rim with a pliers - but remember, you do need to fill the kettle and put any stove items and cups inside it when transporting, so if doing so - don’t overdo it!). Either way, it’s totally perfect for the design purpose, ie to boil water, not to fend off a bear attack! Hats off to GSI, and at under 12.5 ounces all up - check it out.
@@freeforester1717 Wow! Thanks for sharing this! Glad you like it!
You know what they say? They don’t make things like they used to! 😮. I was about to buy one….I think I’ll pass ! Thanks for sharing Shane !
I’m going jot run it through the paces and see what it does. It may be deceiving. We will see
I am glad mine is old version.
Lol awesome. Even the aluminum version is made different it has heavier duty rivets for the handle bracket fasteners.
I noticed this a while ago. I’ve been replacing the kettles in my Trangia 25 kits with these for years. Luckily three out of my four kits have the older style. There was a while where I couldn’t find the standalone kettles. Eventually I picked up a kettalist and ditched the cups. Either version will hold the alcohol burner, pot gripper AND the generic butane burner. The standard aluminum Trangia 25 kettle will also hold these items but it’s trickier loading.
I can thankfully report that the new one DOES still fit in a 25, even with the cutting board.
I haven’t used it a ton honestly but it seems ok. I see what you’re saying though.
I almost just bought that I have been looking for a good kettle seems like I will keep looking.
EAGLE BRAND KETTLE..awesome
See if you can find an old
School Ketalist or check out this kettle. It’s beefy and stainless steel. I use it in my Hot Tent
firemaplegear.com/products/antarcti-stainless-steel-kettle
@@tracker5849 the eagle brand can be hard to come by around my parts.
@@Shanecoffeyoutdoors I have the old school GSI...I love it!!! It's my indoor kettle. It's retired..lol
I was looking at that pretty hard the other day. I was almost tempted to get it but I have cook sets I know what to do with 🤣🤣
Thanks for the video brother
Hmm. I feel like we can never have too many. 😉
Awesome Review,,, I think,,, Compared to your other videos, the recording volume is quite low,,, or your speaking very softly,,, I’ll try to listen when Iam out of this Tractor,,,,
Thanks man sorry. It was a 3am video. Lol. I got home from work and opened it up. I’ll be using it this week to get use out of it and see what it can go through.
PS I did order two more on the sale because I legitimately believe I have a mental illness that way.
Yup. Same here I have so many kettles. I added the Keith Titanium 1 liter kettle to my Trangia 25 kit that I’ve been building on
Lmao, I suffer from same illness. Same with tents, stoves etc. I need therapy.
@@carmenmartinez2882 have you seen the Optimus 77 clones on eBay?
@@Thereal111t no but I checked your RUclips channel and that’s a great price. I also subscribed. I think I’ll get one for that price you can’t go wrong. I have a Trangia 27 already but hey, one can never have enough camping gear lol. Thanks!
@@carmenmartinez2882 they’ve gone up a bit in price… but still less than $20
Yeah too bad it’s impossible to find the old style.
Yeah. I know!!
I agree, I've wondered if it was still available. Looks like they added a thing or Two, but declined the overall quality. Probably buy the Fire Maple.
I know I've got a lot of kettles.. but it just surprises me when companies take a step back In progress.
@@Shanecoffeyoutdoors Yeah that older GSI you've got looks to have a little bigger opening than the fire Maple. And looks a little easier to cook in and clean. It's contoured less on the sides. I do like the concave lid for coals on the fire Maple lid .
Hello, good to see you this morning.
Thanks a lot. I appreciate you stopping by
am sure even if this is both China Made, the 1st one US Influenced design originally But the 2nd one is the proposed China "cost effective " for them.
Thanks for watching. Your probably right. Lol
The new version looks and feels cheap. Just bought one cause I saw it in many videos. When i got it i was shocked. Those handle holders will poke the shit out of any backpack and overall it feels so terrible. I hate it and will send it back. If this is the alternative I will boil my stuff in a pot and done.
Manufactures are cutting costs all over the place. Good review and comparison.
I appreciate it man sorry about the audio. I was trying to be quiet. Lol
Great comparison Shane. My issue with the new one is the D Ring on the lid does not stand up on it's own which can make it difficult to remove the lid, especially when it is hot. I guess time will tell on the rest of your concerns, but I will agree that the original version (I have as well) seams to a little more robust. I am not planning on using then new version on anything other than a stove so I am not concerned about the plastic coating melting on the handle.
For sure man. I’ll be running it through the paces to see how it hold up. I want to do the company justice since they deserve it. One way or the other. They have always had solid stuff. I’m just not sure about this one.
This kettle is better. The reason why the handle hinges move is so that the handle can stay fixed unlike the first one. You seem to be knitpicking. I have the old and new ones. The new one's lid doesn't fall out like yours when you put it sideways.
Oh yeah. I know I’m knitpicking. I’ll 100% admit that I was really let down from what I expected. I will still stay the course and use it. Who knows, I may come to love it, I’ll also do an update video and correct anything that changes. Like I said in the video. I can’t believe they would change the design and make it worse. Time will tell. Thanks for commenting.
@@Shanecoffeyoutdoors
I get it. I am the same way when something that I previously had changes I tend to have a hard time with it. I felt the same when GSI didn't push the stainless steel stuff as much as the aluminum stuff. I actually had a hard time finding the 1.1 liter stainless steel cooking pot that I use when I want more space. You want to talk about disappointed? Just put the stainless steel kettle and cook pot next to the aluminum counterparts and you'll see where GSI really skimped out on the products.
Either way, keep the great content coming!
@@mediocreman561 thanks a lot man I really appreciate it.
😇😇😇
@@GSIOutdoorsLLC
If I may suggest something that would be awesome for the camper who has a bigger cook kit that would make the kettle and the gsi outdoors steel 1.1 boiler fit perfectly together would be to make the kettles pot lid opening slightly larger so that the steel 1.1 boiler would fit in it and could be stacked. There are times when I have a few friends outdoors and have both pots with me but they are too cumbersome to carry together all the time because of it.
Tippy lids on a kettle is a deal breaker for me. Although I’m sure the new one can be fixed with a pair of needle nose pliers. Also never cared for a piece of camp cookware that I can’t pitch in the fire without concern.
Agree
You know GSI has a good design when it starts getting cloned in China. The Ketalist is my first kettle and still my go-to. Thanks for sharing Shane
True. I just don’t understand the concept of improving a design and weakening it. Hopefully it’s a bomb proof design and it’s just misleading is all
The handle on the new one will make a good signaling device...just shake the lid
🤣🤣🤣
As of last week you can still purchase the original kettle by itself on the GSI website.
You can. You just can not buy the Ketalist kit with the older version. It’s almost like a marketing ploy. Buy our original stand alone kettle for more money. Lol 🤷♂️
Shane,
I thought about you the other day when I was selling my XRV 750 Honda Africa Twin.
We had a mega powercut and I had to fish out a camp kettle to give the buyer a cup of tea.
Got your supercub yet?
F
Heck yeah! Been riding the Cub like no other. I’ve got about 4000 miles on it so far. 😉
@@Shanecoffeyoutdoors wow. That's fantastic. Glad you're liking it.
Brother I've used 5 dollar kettles and 100 dollar kettles and none of them have failed don't understand how they could lol
I don't believe it would fail as a kettle, I guess I would ask, Did they take a step back in progress? It's not as well made as the previous model.
Shane…nice videos. what’s your take on fire maple kettle 1liter / 1.5liter. Is that better than gsi stainless kettle . The mouth on the fire maple is a bit smaller than gsi. Firemaple is a cheaper alternative to the Norwegian eagle brand kettle.
I have the fireMaple and i love it. I just wish the lid was larger. Other than that, I use it quite a bit. I have the fireMaple kettle and the cook pot that it nests in. Such an awesome kit.
You do know that GSI sold out to another company? And as is almost always the case, quality may have suffered.
Well.. I do now. lol. Figures doesn't it.
Great review. Time to check out EBay for an older model. (need more gain on your mic. Hard to hear)
I was actually trying to be quiet. No more 3am videos. Lol.
OK...I MISTAKENLY THOUGHT. you were gonna give a critique, you're worse than my little kids...thanks but no thanks..
BTW... Wheres my package..its still missing...UPS..
Go FedEx..or go home
lol!! your mistake!
Thanks for the comment.. I guess. I hope you at least like your little kids..