War Thunder F-86F-2 | F-86 vs Mig-19 Spam
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- Опубликовано: 28 фев 2019
- Ammo:
-20mm: Default
Convergence: 400m
Manual Engine Control settings:
1440p!
My most interesting F2 match while I was researching the F100. Stay fast and alert and Migs will struggle to hit you.
A key thing to remember is that subsonic performance decreases with altitude while supersonic performance increases with altitude. The smallest performance gap is at low altitude, so as a subsonic you want to bring the fight lower. The clouds at 2km probably helped keep the fight low in this match.
What can outnumbered Mig19s do?
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What kind of thumbnail do you prefer?
Screenshot of the actual video.
No HUD screenshot taken from the replay.
@@AdamTheEnginerd the second one for sure :)
This one.
second one 100%
MiG 17s & MiG 19s: Enjoying the scenery
Adam: *Good Afternoon*
Lmao.
That last Mig-19: see all the subsonic American jets overhead
"Guess I'll die" *crashes plane*
Lmao yeah most likely its last thoughts.
Manual Engine Control Settings:
*1440p*
Lmao advanced MEC ;).
I can confirm it increases the performance way too much.
The only time I go afk like that is if I have to really pee from drinking too much beer and I passed out in the bathroom.
Lol oddly specific.
@@AdamTheEnginerd I had to give that guy an excuse because saying he was on tinder wouldnt be good enough
That thumbnail is nuts
Haha I agree!
Just wanted to say I love the way you do your vids. No bullshit and just pure information.
Thanks for the feedback, glad you like them!
Holy shit noice thumbnail!
My production team thanks you!
Is production team literally Adam late night on his pc working on the video instead of his assignments? 😉
Anyways, my poor Tas got shafted by heavy repair costs. But man the H1 is addictive to play. Btw any video/tips on how to take on spits in a relatively slower plane with high roll rates? I'm struggling against later spits in a rolly polly fighter. I decimate them in 109s but 190s/152..im not that confident
Haha I don't possess the skills to make that kind of thumbnail.
H1 vs Spits you mean?
@@AdamTheEnginerd H1 vs spits, please!
You are faster than the 5.7 Spitfires at sea level. I wouldn't dogfight them, but use combat and takeoff flaps when you're forced to dogfight.
OMG, you Landed without dying. What a positieve change :))))))))))
Lol I usually don't die when landing.
@@AdamTheEnginerd
You sure about that???
After intercepting 2 mig 19s and getting an ace: Gotta pretend i have bad aim.
Well i dont think they are falling for it.
Nice vid as always
Haha thanks!
That thumbnail is beautiful! MiG-17 anytime soon?
It's on my list, but I did a lot of jets in December-January so prob not any time soon.
I love spraying 50 cals from sabre on extending migs. I dont think its feasible due to ammo count with F2 though
Yeah can't really spray.
Awesome gameplay and great flying, nice kills on the 4th and 5th, can't wait till next week
Thanks!
Friday is the best day of the week eh?
Yup! Friday is my favorite day
well done,keep up the good job Adam
Thanks, I will!
Your aim is insane mate. Great video!
Thanks mate!
Hey adam thanks to you im two planes away of getting this f2, im a ps4 user and even i cant believe it. Im able to get this far with the help of you. Thankk youu so muchh and keep up the great work sirr!!💫🔥🙌🏻
Thanks for the praise! I will!
Adam, thanks for encouraging more min fuel sabre gameplay. Just more free kills for the rest of us who took enough fuel to last the match.
My KD won't pad itself
Where's the encouragement?
@@thekspguy4421 you said 'if you're carrying'. Shouldn't you always assume to be carrying the team though with the current meta? The advantages of a min fuel sabre do not outweigh the main disadvantage, ESPECIALLY with supersonics now in game.
Min fuel is enjoyable on maps like Korea due to its small size.
love your higher tier gameplays!
Thanks! Only the higher tier stuff? I think my prop videos are better.
@@AdamTheEnginerd I've watched all your prop stuff Haha, I love it too! It's just that high tier is a kinda different style of gameplay and seeing your perspective on it is really helpful to me; hence the mix of content is refreshing sometimes. You helped me start doing well with my f100 so thanks!!
My pleasure!
great work!! subbed!
Thanks, welcome!
Now you could add the J-35 Draken to the mix. It would be appropriate, as the planes were contemporaries. IRL, the J-35 first flew in 1953, and entered service in 1955, well before the F-4, and MiG-21, about the same time as the F-100.
Looks funky atm haha.
Those stats you give at the top are badass. Ima follow you now for that lmao
Haha thanks, welcome!
Well, most of the kills were done over an already engaged enemy! Nevertheless, I like your videos for their best visual impact. No bs, good reason and you can see not only How but Why as well. Bravo, Adam.
Yeah that's the reality of jet matches.
Thanks!
Your aim and flying are really insane in jet fightings too!
Thanks! Better in props though.
6:18 I don't think I've ever paid attention to base AA shooting an enemy plane, but I must say, the amount of fire being sent up is impressive.
Yeah noticed that too, I think they are more visible because of the clouds.
Made myself a head tracking thing with 3 regular LED's i had from some toys, stamped some tape over them to difuse the light, brought the web cam contrast to 0 so it doesn't see anything but the LED's. i got the facetracknoIR for 2 bucks, bought a 10 bucks stick, and never went back to any game mode than sim. Its amazing ! Amazing I say ! And it only took me 10-20 minutes to set up and build the head track LED's. You should all try it.
Yeah I know someone who did something similar.
Sim is tough on my eyes though.
Yeah, it is hard to spot things and so on, but radars are comming in the next patch ! First jets, and then I think ww2 planes in the following patches will have radars.
The F86 F2 cannons are the best in the game. Change my mind.
I'd say the Mig19 30mm if we're just comparing guns.
lmao we all know the po2 has the best armament for a plane in game
@@n1hilanth314 im pretty sure it does have a jet kill to its name making it the only biplane with such a title but dont quote me there
F-100D's M39s. Comparable to the F2's guns but with double the ammo. The Mig-19's NR-30s are great but the ammo count is horrible.
@@colin.k6263 it was a maneuver kill on an f94
Hey man! Nice Vid. How does one get a hud with the TAS and AoA information?
Thanks!
It's called the "local host".
How to access the "local host":
You need to be running War Thunder or it won't work!
Option 1: on the same computer that is running WT:
-Type localhost:8111/ in the address bar and press enter and voila.
Option 2 (which also works on the computer that runs WT):
-Type Your_IP_Address:8111/ where you replace "Your_IP_Address" by your IP Address (192.168.X.XXX) in the address bar and press enter and voila, you can look at the characteristics on another device while flying.
Cara tu é muito bom, otimo video!
Thanks!
Congrats on 18K!
Thanks!
How do you get those stats in the upper left corner?thrust ,power deg,etc?
It's called the "local host".
How to access the "local host":
You need to be running War Thunder or it won't work!
Option 1: on the same computer that is running WT:
-Type localhost:8111/ in the address bar and press enter and voila.
Option 2 (which also works on the computer that runs WT):
-Type Your_IP_Address:8111/ where you replace "Your_IP_Address" by your IP Address (192.168.X.XXX) in the address bar and press enter and voila, you can look at the characteristics on another device while flying.
Do you use vertical targeting? It's been months since I play air battles and going back is always a shock, learning how to aim again
Nope I don't use VT.
Adam, more jets gameplay please 👍 and ofc pretty nice thumbnail
Eh I did a lot of top tier jets in the recent past, I showed the main ones already.
Hi adam i love the vids been watching for ages trying to improve my game is there a chance we can get a vid of your control setup your mouse sensitivity and also how to get better at lower BR please thank you and fly safe brother
Control setup is essentially default, with MEC added. Mouse sensitivity is default.
Adam what are your thoughts on the Do 335 B-2? I'm currently using the Me 410 B-6/R3 and am wondering how they would compare in terms of characteristics.
It's for tank RB so lots of pulling up to avoid crashing into the ground haha.
Do335 is fine for bomber hunting, but that's not what I do. It's better than Me410 though. 410 is prob better in tank RB though, top speed isn't very useful.
Ok thanks Adam, shame the Germans didn't decide that they needed more mk 103s in a plane.
Nice vid. Where did you find the instant thrust value ? It's quite useful to understand an aticraft
Thanks!
It's called the "local host".
How to access the "local host":
You need to be running War Thunder or it won't work!
Option 1: on the same computer that is running WT:
-Type localhost:8111/ in the address bar and press enter and voila.
Option 2 (which also works on the computer that runs WT):
-Type Your_IP_Address:8111/ where you replace "Your_IP_Address" by your IP Address (192.168.X.XXX) in the address bar and press enter and voila, you can look at the characteristics on another device while flying.
Adam514 thank you very much !
You are probably the best shot that I have seen in this game. One question: do you have your boosters turned off?
Thanks!
I didn't have boosters researched, so I didn't have them.
Adam i dare you to play in this tier with the g91 r/1😁
Lol that doesn't sound fun.
How do you get that little info box you have, with the TAS, IAS and everything?
It's called the "local host".
How to access the "local host":
You need to be running War Thunder or it won't work!
Option 1: on the same computer that is running WT:
-Type localhost:8111/ in the address bar and press enter and voila.
Option 2 (which also works on the computer that runs WT):
-Type Your_IP_Address:8111/ where you replace "Your_IP_Address" by your IP Address (192.168.X.XXX) in the address bar and press enter and voila, you can look at the characteristics on another device while flying.
@@AdamTheEnginerd Thanks! Is there a way to get it overlayed in-game like yours? Or is that an edited effect for your videos?
adam i have a question .u can prevent fuel tank explode with less fuel?
Depends. You will stop burning when there's no fuel.
Kinda what causes fires are the fuel gas inside the tank and oxygen, so if you don't have a full tank you can catch fire. But as Adam said if you get empty the fire will likely cease.
I'm not sure how Gaijin models fuel tanks, maybe carrying less fuel will completely empty some of the fuel tanks on the plane, that would prevent fires
Nice video! I’ve had a bad habit of zooming in (right clicking) before shooting another plane down, especially when I’m very close. Do you find it easier to aim with out zooming in?
Thanks!
Yeah zooming in doesn't inherently increase accuracy. It makes you lose some of your field of vision and forces you to learn to lead with and without zoom, slowing your aim improvement.
Adam514 Just finished playing some games without using the zoom in. It was so much easier to aim and lead a target. I’ve used some of your tips in your videos with great results. Thanks!
I subscribed to you by the way :)
hey, where can i get that mod or whatever that you have on the upper left corner?
It's called the "local host".
How to access the "local host":
You need to be running War Thunder or it won't work!
Option 1: on the same computer that is running WT:
-Type localhost:8111/ in the address bar and press enter and voila.
Option 2 (which also works on the computer that runs WT):
-Type Your_IP_Address:8111/ where you replace "Your_IP_Address" by your IP Address (192.168.X.XXX) in the address bar and press enter and voila, you can look at the characteristics on another device while flying.
How you on stats Vy,m/s and TAS/IAS, km/h? Replay settings?
No, it's called the "local host".
How to access the "local host":
You need to be running War Thunder or it won't work!
Option 1: on the same computer that is running WT:
-Type localhost:8111/ in the address bar and press enter and voila.
Option 2 (which also works on the computer that runs WT):
-Type Your_IP_Address:8111/ where you replace "Your_IP_Address" by your IP Address (192.168.X.XXX) in the address bar and press enter and voila, you can look at the characteristics on another device while flying.
I wish you would come back but I understand life happens so have a great rest of your day Mr Adam the enginerd.
wow I thought I was good at playing jets, thanks for showing me what the next level is like.
Haha there's room for a level above me.
Hey! This might be a little late but i have gotten the venom and have played 30 or 40 games in it and have a pretty shitty kd... I was wondering if you had any tips to help me get better :)
Not for that jet, I don't think I've even flown it. I recommend checking out DEFYN (another RUclipsr), he reviews jets.
@@AdamTheEnginerd thanks for the reply :) I will be sure to check him out thanks!
Hey Adam, IK u probably get asked this question all the time but how do I get the bar with all the info?
It's called the "local host".
How to access the "local host":
You need to be running War Thunder or it won't work!
Option 1: on the same computer that is running WT:
-Type localhost:8111/ in the address bar and press enter and voila.
Option 2 (which also works on the computer that runs WT):
-Type Your_IP_Address:8111/ where you replace "Your_IP_Address" by your IP Address (192.168.X.XXX) in the address bar and press enter and voila, you can look at the characteristics on another device while flying.
@@AdamTheEnginerd Thank You! o7 ))
Hey Adam, did you noticed that Gaijin raised american early jets and some props repair costs? The B29 that was last week 39k sl is now 41k, while the Tu 4 (which is a 8.0) is 31k!
The P80 (which is the jet im playing right now) got raised from 12k to 14k. The problem is: most of the players at 7.0 are still getting used to jet battle stuff, such as aiming, studying enemy planes and getting discipline with reduced ammo load and time to aim, which is my example. We still dont have that skill to make our early jets battles flow relaxing, so its common for us to accidentaly crash our planes on the ground or on an enemy plane. The frustating part is that they only raised the P80 costs, because the F84, Sabres and the Supersabre (even if they were raised too, its still ok the cost). But why only raise this way the P80? The Mig 9 is costing something around 7k and 10k, I dont remember...
B29 players are now, more than ever, sentenced to bankruptcy...
Why only American planes? Why not also German and Soviet jets?
I don't look or care about repair costs.
Perhaps it's to reduce the overcrowding in US queues.
Do you have the "New boosters" upgrade installed? Or did you remove it?
'cause That thing causes my wings rip off
Even I tried with the minimum fuel (7min) and still ripping my wings.
I don't think I had them researched yet. Need to be careful when rolling and turning with boosters indeed.
@@AdamTheEnginerd uggh, with that installed, I can not longer do my crazy moves at high speed
You can uninstall them if you like.
Can you make a video playing the Meteor?
It's on my list!
9,9k! almost there!
Almost famous!
Adam, do you use boosters on the Sabres?
I don't have them unlocked, so no.
can you another vid on the k4 as it got its br nerfed this patch
It's on my list!
Your aim is insane ! Could you do the F6F ?
Thanks!
It's on my list!
Oi Adam
He 162 A2 Is now decent/good at 6.3 (as you said before).
The only problem are the b29s (because they keep space climbing).
And jet games at 7.0/7.3 (for balance is ok for me).
A lot of running thought.
Haven't found it so fun to play back when it was 6.7
Now is a joy to fly and relaxing.
Yeah it's fine at 6.3 BR. I haven't had issue with spaceclimbing B29s though, yet.
How do you make F-2 look formidable against 10.0 Russian jets? I always end up getting blacked out and dying lol. Also, does gun convergence matter on nose mounted guns?
Haha I'm not that good in the F2 compared to props though. You need slightly better crew, patience, and strategy. Look at what the enemy is doing and what your teammates are doing, and position yourself appropriately to capitalize on distracted enemies.
Convergence still changes where the reticle is on the screen, and that matters for close up shots.
How long did you wait for jet RB?
It's usually not too bad at the time I played this (December).
Did you know sputnik_8a91 and semyorka(mig19 player) are popular warthunder streamer?
Expected very tough battle but finished it very easy. Impressive fight
Nope I did not.
adam, do you uninstall the booster of saber?
Nope, but was stock here.
oh you are so awesome :D
Thanks!
Would love to see you play the Hunter and show us how it's done, I only have a stock one and even with 5 min fuel its not exactly viable.
That probably won't happen any time soon haha, Hunter doesn't seem very good these days.
@@AdamTheEnginerd When one of the better pilots out there even acknowledges how non-competitive the late UK tech tree is, just sort of says a'lot.
Supersonic UK when?
@@AdamTheEnginerd Gaijin: BuT tHe hUnTeR cAn AlReAdY gO sUpErSoNiC
Adam, how do you maneuver the plane to roll, dodge, and cause overshoots...all while looking back? What controls/buttons are you using?
I use keyboard, and I move the mouse behind to look behind and maneuver with it at the same time.
@@AdamTheEnginerd ok, so while you are using C with mouse for view, you are using pitch and roll keys?
No, my mouse still controls pitch when looking back.
@@AdamTheEnginerd how do you do this?
Depending on my mouse position on the screen, i'll potch jn tje direction I want.
"mostly subsonic vs 50% subsonic"
I don't think this is how math works
What do you mean?
Our team is mostly subsonic while the enemy team is half-half.
we're not just talking about any math, we're talking about gaijin math
Can the f86 with mgs be played the same?
Yup.
it certainly been a while since i saw the normandy air battles map
Now that I think about it, me too.
2:43 were those hits, misses or just ghost rounds?
First 2 + sparks.
Can u make a Spitfire Mk14 vs Ta152H MER video?
I did a video on the LF Mk IX vs Ta152H. LF Mk IX has slightly better MER than Mk14 at low altitude at least, and Ta152H beats them both. You can look at my spreadsheet in the description.
@@AdamTheEnginerd ahh...i see thanks
Love your videos! What is your name on STEAM it would be really nice if we could play some rounds War Thunder :D
Same name as on here, but your best bet is to join the Discord.
Adam514 can you send the discord link please
It's in the description of my videos.
how to do gradual turning?
Move your cursor just ahead of the aircraft instead of far in front, you'll turn slower.
What side is Japan on usually in this matchup?
They aren't usually in supersonic matches, I don't know.
@@AdamTheEnginerd But they will be very soon. That is why i am asking
"Mostly sub sonics vs 50% supersonics" that math doesn't add up dog
Haha how? You aren't the first person to say that either.
My team: mostly subsonics
Enemy team: 50% supersonics
Where is the issue?
Why is the F-86F-2 and Mig-17 facing the supersonic jets it’s unbalanced
They do sufficiently well against F100 and Mig19. T2 should probably be at 10.3.
Adam514 it would be cancer to face an t2 good gameplay btw
Thanks!
Takes a gd pilot to fly mig bis correctly it's those damn 86guns op
They are good yes.
that landing made me not want to play WT ever again...the fact that its possible
You're not feeling the drift?
@@AdamTheEnginerd not really so much in a mig
Adam do you not play tanks at all?
Not really, I have 1 tank video.
Adam514 oh okay I'll track that one down pun intended lol, was just curious because your aircraft videos are so informative especially for me as a pilot trying to improve in RB in both aircraft and helicopters and also tanks I used to be solid arcade player only but am finding rb much much more rewarding and fun, I just think tank gameplay/tutorials by you would be epic but otherwise keep up the solid content mate
I'm not qualified to teach tanks haha.
I remember when the f2 was by far the worst jet. Times change.
Huh I must have not been in jets at that time.
nice gameplay, how about playing F-86 F-40 ?
Thanks!
Perhaps one day.
Ayo this game was so different then, im sad I didn't catch it like this I joined a week before the C phantom came
Oof yeah very different.
You still answer comments lmao
@@lambsaucy69 Of course.
@@AdamTheEnginerd sheesh
@@AdamTheEnginerd hey what about u make a video about the f2 sabre cuz the t-2 is 9.7,and harriers, and mig 21s holy shit. I just realized it gets very power crept
Hey Adam I just wanted to say I love your vids and I hope to catch you in the skies one day so I can be finessed and utterly destroyed
Thanks!
Haha even if we are on the same team?
F2 is a nightmare for the MiG 19PT
Yeah, trash rudder.
Adam514 yup all the cancerous rolls and asspulling energy. Most of my kills on Sabre’s in my MiG 19 came from just energy trapping and afk’ers. So much easier for me to kill a F100
FINALLY A NEW VIDEO!!!!!!!!!!
Every week!
Do you plan on flying the G91-YS?
One day I suppose.
@@AdamTheEnginerd cheers! thanks for answering
I like your videos
Glad you like them!
Your aim is insane.
Thanks! Other videos are more impressive than this one in terms of aim though.
Can you play the G-6?
It's on my list!
I think it’s a great 109, my best stats plane so far
6:42 You make deflection shooting like that look so much easier than it is wtf
You should make a vid on the german mig 15
Haha Russian Mig15 isn't enough?
No we need germany mig 15:)))))
Yak-30?
I have no idea how to use it, i need this
It's on my list! I'm no Yak30 expert though.
@@AdamTheEnginerd YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES
the sabre is so good
Used to be the top dog.
Adam can you open a custom server where you teach people how to aim good? We would all of that! Especially Green! (But also me cuz I suck!)
Haha how do you teach aim though?
this made me sub you
Welcome!
could you do a take 2 of this against the current match maker... it's like vs MiG-21's & stuff... pretty cancerous
Wouldn't that be a max uptier for the F86?
@@AdamTheEnginerd nah 9.7... MiG-21F-13 & F-100D's
for the 86F-2 specifically it's a 9.0 to .7 uptier
Adam do you ever play tanks?
Cause you're pretty good in the air what about the ground tho?
Not really, I have 1 tank video.
lol i remember this match, im Skellenator, did legit nothing that match, just flew back and forth while u killed everything lol
Lol everyone has a use! Except bombers.
id like to note you can actually only use 2 cannons at a time on the f2 and they are still very effective
Yeah, my key bindings aren't ergonomic for that though.
@@AdamTheEnginerd no side mouse buttons?
Yeah, but I didn't start off with mouse buttons so I can never get used to using them.
@@AdamTheEnginerd well everyone has their preference
Please start including also the SL and RP you get from the battle.
I don't look at that stuff myself though.
These accurate small bursts tho
Ye boi.
Is Adam this good or am I completely terrible? I’ve been playing on Xbox for a year and can’t even hit the computer il2’s with these guns. Yes mouse aim
Practice and patience! Also watch my videos and see what I do.
I watch every vid bud- I guess we all fall short of the pro. Thanks for all the great videos man, I’ve learned so much
My pleasure!
tbh this is a fairly accurate portrayal of Mig Ally, just replace the Mig-19's with Mig-15's
I'm not sure what you mean.
@@AdamTheEnginerd basically during the Korean War the area where the Yula River meets the ocean was called Mig Ally by the UN forces because of the sheer amount of jet to jet dogfights that occurred mostly involving the Mig-15 and F-86 Sabre
I think you already start practicing for incoming mig 19s spam. I call it, the cl 13 2.0...
Lol yeah there's gonna be massive spam.
try to play the stock Mystere IIC against mig 19 and cl13 ))))
Lol I'm not close to getting French jets.
@@AdamTheEnginerd well good luck lol