I was attending a bible study that on reflection was less study and more indoctrination. When the facilitator brought up the serpent seed belief, the holy spirit immediately warned me to challenge this. The facilitator then tried bullying me and claiming I was such a young Christian that I needed more ---indoctrination--before I understood. His 30+ years of study made him superior in wisdom. After the study ended premature due to my challenge, others admitted to me they too didn't believe. I asked them why they didn't speak up and they just shied from commenting. They didn't want to make a scene. So beware of cults and indoctrination. The bible is the Word not these heretics.
It was the Holy Spirit that warned you, not only because of my personal experience too but because this doctrine is absolutely evil. It is the definition of “doctrines of devils/demons”. It is directly refuted by the Word (Gen 4:1). Branham got this doctrine from the KKK that ordained him as minister, and in the KKK it was used as a biblical justification for white supremacy and marital segregation (even segregation in general). It’s history goes all the way back to Iraneus who mentions it and condemns as a heresy (Against Heresies). Only through “Bible study”, ie one-way communication which amounts to indoctrination/brainwashing (aka “revelation”) can it ever be accepted by cult members/victims.
So William Branham taught that Cain was the biological son of the serpent, and Able was the biological son of Adam, and then replaced by Seth when Able died. So this is what we have. Cain has the serpent bloodline Seth has Adam’s bloodline Two separate original bloodlines the serpent’s and Adam’s, and this is William Branham’s doctrine of serpent seed. Acts 17 v 26 And hath made of (ONE BLOOD) all nations of men for to dwell on all the face of the earth, and hath determined the times before appointed, and the bounds of their habitation. The Bible teaches one blood created ALL NATIONS OF MEN, and that one bloodline is Adam’s. Also Genesis 4 v 1-2 1. And Adam knew Eve his wife; and she conceived, and bare Cain, and said, I have gotten a man from the Lord. Verse 1 is about the first conception and it is clear who the father is, ADAM Then the second verse 2. And she (AGAIN) bare his brother Able. And Able was a keeper of sheep, but Cain was a tiller of the ground. Nowhere in either verse is the serpent spoken about, and it is also clearly saying that Adam is Cain’s father in the 1st verse. When your prophet contradicts the clear teachings of the Bible it is time to run from that said prophet. Now you will say but but but he did so many miracles. Matthew 24 v 23-24 is what’s going on. He had a bunch of yes men and they worked the prayer cards so he would know the problems people had, and then when he knew their problems they were surprised, but it was the prayer cards he was used to get the info on them. And there are people who died from the same problems that William Branham said he cured them from. He is also wrong about the Trinity, and plenty of verses prove it.
@@homielifesaver2332 so you really think an apple caused them to realize they were naked? That evil seed had to come from somewhere. Adam was God's creation it wasn't Adam's seed. It's obvious.. why lie about healings? If that was the case he would have lived a rich lifestyle and not dedicate all his time preaching. Doesn't make logical sense. You will find out one day . Blind as the pharasees were
Hi! I was born and grew up in the message. I'm 23 and I have been discovering some weird things about it. I am not officially out yet but I am doing researches, gathering proofs... That's why I came across this video. May God help me.
Brother, stay in the word , you know that wnb is the word for the bride remember the sun comes out for the just and the unjust ,this message is not for everybody they r not leaving the message , the message is leaving them , dont u see that theres nothing left of tge message ib them the just want to live like the word they are not eagles, they are falcons and cannot resist the pressure because cannot any higher god bless
@@gilbertoalvarez6067 The more I am reading the word of GOD, the more I am confused with the message. Sure, I will stay in the word of GOD and if something doesn't align with it, I will just throw it away.
@@gascesemesilus5197Hello! I would recommend a RUclips channel called Leaving The Message. Such detailed research, I am sure it will be the answer to your questions. God bless you ❤
I am a Message Believer...but sometimes I am also ashamed to how certain Message churches are going about spreading the Message but its not enough to "force" me out of the Message. Judging from what you saying it has come to my attention that people don't like to be told to dress decently or women are not allowed to cut their hair (it is in the Bible btw, it is not Branhamism). People want to live their lives as they see fit and not be guided by the FULL Word of God...but most people just want to accept the parts that makes them feel good and not the parts that condemns them. I am not a biased person, some churches even baptise people in Branham's name...which is TOTALLY wrong. He was just a man also...In todays life people starting calling something a cult just because it goes against the way things are done today in the modern days. Remember...the prophets in the Bible also made mistakes and disobeyed God cause they were also just human. Now that the Prophet is gone everyone has something to say about him...but everyone was afraid to challenge him when he was around...
Mistakes are fine. Lying over and over and over and over and over and over and over isn't. Contradicting the Bible isn't. Abusing the trust of believers isn't.
It is alarming to see how well known William and "the message" actually is in modern day. My childs father almost dragged me into this but my spirit pull me out.
Thanks to these video series, I started researching the "message" and decided to leave 2 months later. Thank you. Its been quite a roller-coaster ride, from depression to freedom, still having difficult days. But ultimately I am please to say I left such a horrible cult. Btw. I was even a minister.
As a kid when my dad joined the message, we could no longer have a Christmas tree, passing sports was frowned upon, I watched my dad routinely beat the brakes of my mom off she trimmed her hair, wore little make up, or heaven forbid put on a pair of pants. We lived in constant fear.
I too Tiffany was in a church in AZ Ron Peterson is the great deceiver of this church he is a little Hitler and I feel sorry for the ones there that’s afraid to leave
Strange how people said the exact same thing in the days of Jesus. Nobody believes there can be a prophet in their day. There are people and groups in the message that are a cult absolutely but as far as the message from William Branham, he only said what Paul and the other prophets spoke. If you were in the days of Jesus, you would have been yelling “give us Barabas”
@@HDR_AmericaI've always listened and continue to listen to Branham's sermons because I honestly believe his teachings are true. William Branham is not God, and he has never claimed to be God to anyone. People like you destroy God's kingdom and undermine William Branham's ministry. You carry out the devil's plan to transform a Branham into a god, obstructing people's ability to see the truth in his sermons and ministry. Branham would always insist "I'm not Jesus; I'm just a man; I'm your brother,". Please quit lying to people, if you tell lies about the God you believe you serve, he has the power to destroy you because you're not different from a devil. The devils believe in God and tremble at the mention of his name, but the devil is a deceiver.
The message minions have come to issue their judgment. Quite typical. And actually blatant vindication that they follow cult behaviors to the letter. Keep sharing your truth sis! I can tell by your answers that you have a sweet soul!! God Bless!
Stop calling this a cult, it's offensive word if you dont like the message keep it to yourself stop intoxicating people. I grew up in the message and Brother Branham is a real prophet of Jesus. All his his prophecy came to pass I mean even the picture taken with the halo on his head that was when the FBI criticized him of being a fake prophet. Today that picture sits in the museum Dc Washington proven by the FBI agent that the camera captured the halo. You just want to live like this young worldly girls, there is no civilization in Christianity life Jesus Christ is the same yesterday today and forever what he condemned yesterday he will condemn today. Go read your bible and take of that ear ring the bible condemns it, it's sign of slavery.
@@toyoufrombeniunbothored2213 oh you poor poor soul. There is so much you don't know because you are blinded. What you think you know is just a mirage. It's not real. I, too grew up in the message. It is very much a cult and you are very much brainwashed. Cult is not an offensive word. Please look up the definition and criteria of a cult. Good luck!
Hi Charity, thank you so much for bravely sharing your story publicly. I too was raised in the message, but being a guy, I suppose I had it easier in some ways. I thank God that my eyes were opened and I was able to leave this destructive cult. Some of my close family are still in the cult and my heart does break for them sometimes. I believe your videos will be quite useful and inspirational to a lot of people who may be stuck in the message or similar organisations and who may be desperately seeking the courage to leave. Keep up the good work on this channel.
I grew up with this as well and attended until my early 80s. I initially attended in the Caribbean (where one of my uncles is still a minister), and then after moving to the US attended the Local Christian Assembly in NY (where Joseph Coleman preached about 7 Thunders--Coleman began this theory following the death of William Branham, undoubtedly to position himself as the new leader). I didn't attend the church in NY because I believe the seven thunders according to Joe Coleman, but because it was the only church in NY and the rule of "forsaking not the assembly..." loomed largely. I got married in the NY church, at 18yrs old, to a man that was physically and emotionally abusive to me throughout the marriage (abuse that Joseph Coleman, his wife, and other church officials were aware of, but did nothing to help with). Someone who had attended the NY church years before I did, eventually told me that Coleman, had also been physically and emotionally abusive to his wife, and that was how I realized, that when his wife told me, "Any woman can make a man hit her" and the fact that they offered no counseling to my spouse for his behavior which began within days of the marriage, I was destined to live unhappily for the rest of my life. Thankfully, I walked away from the marriage and the message after almost 5 yrs of marital hell. The experiences of being in those message groups were night and day. In the church in NY, Joseph Coleman held a long-standing grudge against people from Trinidad, because of the fact that when he came to preach seven thunders the ministers did not readily embrace it as others had done in other parts of the world. The NY church was unfriendly to the point of being cliquish and unchristian. Before the pandemic, I visited the church and there seemed to have been several modifications; for one they may not have TVs because of the no TV rule, but they love youtube and access it on phones, and tablets--my guess is that they still feel they're not watching TV. The NY church I understand has split into two groups, one of which is preaching a version of 2 souls. Prior to Coleman's death, his son Jonathan Coleman and several coconspirators who were officials in the NY church were convicted of felony charges for Securities fraud (Yes people in the message were defrauded of their money--one elderly sister of her life savings; she died of a heart attack from the stress of that loss), then after his stint in Federal prison Jonathan Coleman, a convicted felon who also exhibited homosexual tendencies (which is highly frowned upon by the group) was welcomed back into the pulpit (there is a video of Jesse Robledo welcoming him back to the pulpit with the only explanation being that he was his brother in law and he loves him). The ultimate for me is a video I saw on RUclips, where Billy Paul Braham, who is still saying he is not old, but undoubtedly now qualifies for Medicare and Social Security (and probably collects these benefits) literally referred to his brother Joseph Braham as the prophet, no double for purposes of succession and the fact that the admission that Billy is old, would invalidate the prophecy of "thus sayeth the Lord that a disastrous flood (California will sink), due would take place before he is old.
Im so sorry Wendy for the abuse that you’ve endured and I’m sorry for the way it was handled within that message church. I attended the LCA in PA, and as you likely know that church was considered “one church” with the NY location and streamed all the sermons. If you watch other parts in this series you will see that I share a lot about Joseph Coleman. I mentioned the investment con in my book, Where the Willow Weeps. My parents also lost a lot of money in that scam. It’s hard to believe they would stay after a Ponzi scheme was endorsed through the pulpit, but cults have a way of keeping people’s loyalty despite things like that. Again I’m so sorry for your trauma and am glad that you are (sounds like) now getting help and finding healing from that abuse. God bless you Wendy ❤️
@@CRWottrich Thank you. Sorry to hear about your parents, being caught up in the mini Madoff scheme. Years ago before the current church building in New York was built they had a building fund to rebuild the church, and when the believers had donated,, Coleman went on a tirade because he didn't think the funds were enough (people who lived in their tiny NY apartments, who had more kids than they could feed were shamed into pledging more money than they could afford). Finally, when the pledges were in before the church was rebuilt, Coleman announced that God had led him to build a second home in the Poconos; years before that God had "laid" on Anthony Fiore, the Associate Pastor's heart that the church should pay off the mortgage on Coleman's Westbury, NY home. The house was built and completed before the church was. It was a home that none but a select few were ever invited to, however, a housewarming dinner was arranged to honor it at Anton's in Westbury, where you were expected to buy a gift on the list as well as purchase a ticket to the event. This and other events surrounding the Coleman's shone a spotlight on their materialistic aspirations, which to me made the Ponzi scheme no surprise.
is there any where in the Sermons of William Branham where he said Thus Saith the Lord" Billy Paul will not be an old man and see california sink? Was it a Thus Saith the Lord?
I watched your video and found it misleading. It seems you don’t fully grasp Brother Branham’s teachings, which indicates a lack of understanding of the Bible's depth as well. I suggest you avoid jumping to conclusions about what you might not completely understand. As a believer in Branham’s message, it's clear to me how insightful and knowledgeable he was, supporting education as a valuable pursuit-like my own two higher education degrees. I recommend conducting thorough research with a logical and rational mindset regarding Branham’s work, and consider revising your video to reflect a more informed view.
@@eagleeye2746 That would be your very specific *interpretation* to your *very* specific experience. I have Muslim neighbors who are kind in every way -- would you assume that means that all followers of their faith behave the same and believe the same? Many, many, many people have had the experiences she is stating.
Personally, it led me to depression and confusion. And being brutally honest here, it actually drove me away from God. So glad I’m out of it now. I’ve made my way back to the lord after some time though
William Branham was translated beyond the curtain of time to give the Bride of Jesus Christ a foretaste of what it will be. (Listen to his sermon: The rejected King) The key: Perfect Love. Love your enemies.
@@homielifesaver2332 outright, and himself. And he was a 2 faced racist who was personally tight with the grand wizard of the KKK. I have no idea why people were taken with this guy... and I'm a Pentacostal!
Seems like the only ones not being called a cult , is the ones who love the world and the things of the world. If you love Hollywood , then you are not cultish, if you love sport heroes, then you are not cultish, if you love the fashions of the world, then you are not cultish, if you love the music of the world, then you are not cultish, if you love money and making money, then you are not cultish, if you like parties , then you are not cultish, if you like mixing religion with other religions then you are not cultish. if you like disobeying and disrespecting your parents then you are not cultish. Fact is the new birth is not like pop corn and it doesn,t come cheap. Pick up your cross and carry it.
I think perhaps you may not understand what a cult actually is by definition. Once you understand what a cult is and how a cult works you will recognize cults in many "secular" places as well. Hollywood is full of cults. But what makes a cult? Look into it.
@johannesmarals1731 - Good list, and you're beginning to make a good point, but it still bears fleshing out and a more thorough and contextual analysis. As it stands, your comment is very vague and general in a highly debatable manner. Who judges who is worldly in a carnal way? If I like Jazz, Rock, Soul music, is that by definition "worldly" and I must repent? Or what in Jazz is OK, what is not? Are all parties bad? If not, which ones? Part of what the "new birth" is is freedom with discipline. Meat sacrificed to idols, anyone? Yes, count me in! See what I mean?
If you don't believe it, don't talk about it. Don't make fun of it. Just walk away. I'll be praying for you. I grew up in this message. I came against it. My whole family did besides my dad. I researched myself. It is 110% the truth brother branham he is just a voice that God uses return unto me and I will return unto you
What a disgusting thing to say. Would you also tell someone they shouldn't warn that water from a lake will kill you? Why wouldn't she want to warn others away from false prophets? Even if you don't believe the same as her, what a ridiculous thing to say.
@@hirotheavitarWow he didn't say anything disgusting? I bet you go to church every Sunday and talk negatively like this to people during the week vs turning the other cheek. Whether you agree with him or her maybe you need to scroll on vs responding. He has a right to defend his beliefs, just like you do with your negative assertion of his comment. We all can agree to disagree, now that is our GOD given right. Have some class instead of making yourself look bad. SMH
Thank you so much for having the courage to speak up about this. I see the comments on this video and know you're catching flack from others still in the cult. Stay strong. I was once in your shoes. ❤️ Praying for your strength, wisdom, and discernment. Let God guide you.
I was never in The Message - but I had heard of William Brahnam while growing up. I have known vaguely of his ministry. I'm just so shocked at everything I have recently learnt about the ministry. Glad you got out. I think I saw your comment on Beulah Mashego's video on why she left The Message.
I have walked a life of seeking the truth and in my journey, the Lord Jesus Christ Himself led me to the Message Of William Marrion Branham! i wasn't indoctrinated into it by man which makes it difficult for any mortal to indoctrinated me out of it. I must admit, no other Message was going to really transform me into a real Christian in the light of the so many voices around in these endtimes! Its been 18 years now and i thank God for sending us William Branham, a type of Haggai instructing Esther on the true taste of the King! I am quiet optimistic when the Bridegroom(Our Lord Jesus Christ) comes(in the Rapture which is upon us), i shall truly be like him! I respect your convictions my sister! The Message of the Hour came for those its predestinated unto! I wished actually i would have like you grown up being influenced by this Message, certain wounds i got would never have come my way! Nevertheless, i count God's timing all joy! And i just hope and trust you havent become worse than you were in terms of your relationship with Jesus Christ our Lord since you left! For i have seen the worst amongst many who left(some became gay, drug addicts, whoremongers, harlots)! Its sad! Anyway, May God bless you!
I too was brought up in this cult... there is a lot of information on spotify a podcast called William Branham Historical Research .... My family are still members and sadly have nothing to do with me, my kids or grandkids....since I questioned my mum. I still believe in God .
@@missredumbrella I can understand that because any time I've been around people still in the message, they talk about over and over, and it's upsetting and unsettling. I hope you are doing good! I know we both are compared to when we were in the message.
I completely connect with what you're saying. We were raised with the long hair for girls and shaved hair for guys (my dad liked to add... to the "religion"). My dad was horrific and would make my life hell telling me he would throw me out of the house at 12 years old and onwards. I really wanted to commit suicide. We were getting hell at school for looking so weird but the hell continued and got worse at home. I don't speak to my parents anymore.
Hi, I can empathize with your story. I’m so sorry for the abuse you endured. I too suffered abuse in the message from family and from others in the church. I have several friends who were abused by family members who justified that abuse using Branham’s words. It’s truly horrific to think of how that environment fostered abuse. The way that women and children were pushed down, corporal punishment was so heavily encouraged, and obeying authority no matter what… it’s awful. All I can say is that you are not alone and I’m so glad that you have found out the truth about Branham. Thanks for watching ❤️
Dear Jaja 001 I am so sorry that you experienced such a horrific up bringing. I can never imagine the betrayal that you experienced, being in the mist a place that is meant to be living truth and love. Please don't think that what you suffer this is the ethos of all message churches?? Before l came into the message church, l suffered bullying and sexual molestation from a person who was meant to be my father. This stated when l was 4 years old,till l was years old! The effects of this abuse would have continued forever,if l hadn't been led into a message church, here in London, UK. The message isn't William Branham, it's the Lord jesus christ,through his prophets? God bless you!
Jesus Loves you, your parents may have treated you that way but is brother branham treated you that way? Did you seek God and aske him if brother Branham is truly is servant? Sometimes we all get to a point where you start wandering am I truly following the Right path we things doesn't work the way you thought it would but you have a God that loves you soo much that if you humble yourself to him and ask him if this message is truly is will for this end time God will answer you and I'm not gonna tell you what he is going to say but wait on the lord and be patient and go sincerely in prayer and in a correct approach to God and see what God is going to tell you. Don't lay on people's beliefs or point of view but seek the revelation on your knees for yourself, if the holy ghost convince you nothing will be able to change your mind. I love you soo much.
I grew up with you guys and I know what your talking about keep doing what your doing charity share that message love and miss you girl! So glad we left that church wasn’t good for anyone and all the rules I never followed cause I knew it was a cult and it really messed me up as a child also , even though my childhood wasn’t good from the start. I remember we couldn’t wear make up , no jewelry , no cutting hair and more rules I never followed that’s another reason I left and told my grandparents I would never return I know you and hope we’re lonely without me but I couldnt handle the abuse we all took every Sunday your doing a wonderful thing and your so successful I’m beyond proud you and how far we have all come it’s amazing!!!
Im so glad you’re doing well and that you got out of there. Thank you for your encouraging words. I’m so thankful that I’m out, you’re out, and many other people I knew as a kid. God is good, and still in the business of redeeming people’s stories. I appreciate you watching and taking the time to leave a comment 💗💗
@@CRWottrich thank you same to you hun! your so welcome I still have all our childhood pictures I will forever cherish! I’m so glad we all realized that church wasn’t good for us and we all grew up to be amazing individuals I found Christ the right way when I left when I was 12 years old I still remember wearing jeans and earrings and I was told never to return and they told me they were ashamed of me as a child I was messed up from it but even though we always were shamed for doing everything was always a sin, but you know what it made us stronger in the long run! And they were the ones wrong not us😘❤️ 💪🏼
i feel you! but its not about how to live the message but the message or the word living in you! most people and leaders are carnal, what they see in the message are laws, they force there members to live a right kind of life, code of rules, how be it when the Spirit will come He will into all Truth, and how can we live if our eyes blinded by the sysstem of men, the message is for the elect, not for the reprobates, not for the seed of discrepancy, not for seekers of money, it has to be a right vessel, right season, and right time that the message of the Prophet sounded become a living Word, not a code of rules but a life of Christ because the Holy Ghost and the Word are one and the same, the Word must become one to the body,.. the mystery are not for everybody for there is standing among this generation of vipers that perfectly receieved the harmony of the Father and the Son.. to them that are lost the message is hid, but to them that called before the foundation of the world, they will see Jesuss Christ again... Amen!
I admire such a display of boldness and audacity. But I do have few questions to ask you. 1. Have you ever had a sincere desire to know what the Message truly is? 2. Have you ever sought in your life as a Message believer to know why you had to live the way you were taught to live? 3. Was there ever a time where you truly desired to compare the Message and Bible to see whether the teachings of WMB are true or false? Have you truly thought about the teachings yourself, or you had to swallow what you were told? From your presentation and a lot of the comments I read here, I can only see a young lady and people who have had to abide by certain rules and regulations during their upbringing. Unfortunately, your inability to cope with such 'rules and regulations' have caused you to deny and even stand against a man of God who did nothing but to point you back to the Truth. I don't condemn you or anyone who has also taken the steps you took. I believe if you had gone an extra mile to seek the truth for yourself, and not merely abide by the so-called rules and regulations, you would have found out what all of these is about. I wasn't born and raised in the Message like you were. But when I accepted this Message, I was not made to abide by 'rules and regulations' (I don't even think there's anything like that in the teachings of the Message). Frankly, there was never a day that I taught, ''hey, I need to cut my hair short (as a guy), or I need to do this or do that in order be saved or go to heaven''. I was introduced to a God who takes a sinful life, changes it and makes it live for Him. I was taught to love Christ and have a personal relationship with Him. I was taught to invite His Holy Spirit in my heart which will automatically make me love Him and want to live my life to His glory and to do what He wants me to do. (If this isn't the Bible, then I don't what is) You see? This is the difference between being the message movement and being in Christ (the Message). And from what I see, you were in the former - a message believer who was blinded by the letter and failed to see Christ beyond the thick walls of mostly man-made rules and regulations. You see, I dress modestly not because I want to abide by a rule, but because I love Jesus Christ, and it's not me doing it but Christ living in me. I love you too well to see you throw away your life like this. I admonish you to consider these and try to locate Christ in all of these. But obviously the choice is yours to make, and I hope you make the right one.
she still believes in Jezus Christ, she didnt lose faith in general. She said this in another comment. And God is allknowing so he knows her heart and why she made the decisions she made, and why she thinks those are the best ones. Only God can judge her.
The Message is true. It is the vindicated Word of God. People are affected by the Word of God in different ways and the result is: True believers; make-believers or unbelievers. Some people go overboard and others stay in the middle of the road. This applies to any faith group. The Message is a Message of Divine Love and the Full Restoration of the Bride to the Original Word, Back to Eden. When people fail to live it the way Bro Branham delivered it as the 7th Messenger, Eliezer of this day, it does not make the Message a cult. Search the Message that bro Branham preached and compare it with the Bible, it dovetails! This Message is True brethren. Please do not spend your time fighting and arguing over this Message, It is vindicated with True signs and miracles following. It speaks for Itself! Our prophet taught us not to fuss over it. It spoke for itself during bro Branham’s time, hence the Pillar of Fire being photographed with Bro Branham. Spirits do not die so let the critics carry on as we continue to make ourselves for the Rapture. This is a Message of love and grace and it is for the Predestinated Seed of Abraham. Let’s pray for the critics and love them anyhow! One day the Lord Jesus Christ will reveal the Truth to them. What is happening now happened during the time of the Lord Jesus Christ. Critics will always be there. Let’s prepare for His coming! It’s nearer than we think. It is not the time to waste fussing with the unbeliever. Let’s pray for them and love them 🙏🏽
@@creative-community-cafe That is you branhamites. The funny thing is most of us who leave your cult usually remain Christian because it was never about not following Christ for us. It’s about not following a con man whose son wouldn’t give blood to save his life. Follow Christ not a man whose life ended in the 60’s.
The bible does tell us how to know when they are false prophets... If they prophesy and it doesn't come to pass... What I have a problem with is when people add to scripture, when it is not in it... No where in the bible does it say that Eve laid with the devil🤷♀️ Also, when a religion tells you, you did wrong because you married someone that is not the same skin color as you. That we should not mix. I have a problem with that...
@@sexicanag8299 Exactly I think it’s insane what they believe. It Isn’t biblical at all. But then again these are people who listen to tapes laced with mysticism from the 60’s from Brahman. It’s very convincing because it f the witchcraft element of it. Branham was beyond evil to me. If they did their research they would know he was a racist democrat who ran around with kkk members like Roy E Davis. Branham was not a prophet but a cult leader. I’m sure many are aware that are part of this cult of exactly what it is. The childhood friend who lead me there, I feel so sorry for. A prophet told me she’s trapped in that church spiritually. That they tamper with peoples blessings and destiny’s. In order words their job is up take them or destroy it. This girl can’t hold down a job to save her life. I see now that her problems are spiritual.
I love everything about this ❤️ also, I love that you’ve responded with kindness and consideration to the people belittling you and trying to shut you down. You have incredible strength and love, and I hope you know how respected and supported you are.
I loved all this video, but what was particularly relevant to me was the bit about tactics of cults, particularly isolation. My parents, who have since officially shunned me, tried very hard to keep me isolated growing up. While they claimed to be Christians (independent fundamental baptist) I’d say their specific beliefs and practices were definitely cult-ish.
I’m so sorry about the shunning. I know all too well the feeling. 💔 I’ve heard of a lot of “fundamentalist” churches having a lot of cult traits. It’s super sad. Have you heard of “the Modesty Files” it’s a relatively new podcast talking about women who left their ‘fundementalist’ churches. Unfortunately, shunning is all too common in legalistic groups like that. So sorry that you had to go through that.
Can’t wait to hear more about this, I also grew up in this cult. Me and my cousin have been discussing the craziness of it all lately. Glad I found your channel!
My great aunt in Arkansas was in this, I only ever heard it, so I didn't know how it was spelled. I thought they were "Brennonites" because of my aunt's accent. Today is the first time I've thought of looking it up 😅 she wasn't allowed to speak to us until her husband died. I went to her husband's funeral, it was the weirdest funeral ever.
@@ettaphil9586 yes, but she wasn't Mennonite, I grew up Pentecostal, so when I went to her church it would _almost_ sound Pentecostal, except that they basically worshipped this "Brennon" guy and the beliefs about women were way worse. Women were always the punching bags of any joke, about driving, about emotive, whatever. They were definitely in this cult. Another difference is that Mennonite women wear small hair coverings over their buns, not in this church.
I grew up in the Golden Dawn Tabernacle in Tucson, AZ. I believe we were even more cult than the general Message believers. I went in when I was 11 and I escaped when I was 19. I'd love to talk with more people who left. Even now, 25 years later and the process of undoctrinating myself has been a journey.
Hi Rob, hablas español? yo tambien estuve en mi juventud en una iglesia del mensaje, y tambien me gusta hablar con otras personas de esta nuestra experiencia.
It is truly a journey; over 20 years for me. You are so right that some groups were more extreme than others. My Ex-husband before we met went to a group that did not wear the color gray because their pastor has a revelation that gray was a deceitful color since it was a mixture of black and white, another pastor only wanted the women in his church to wear dresses and skirt that had box pleats😁 would be disfellowshipped by both these groups because pleats make me look fat and I love the color gray
Absolutely many many cults are around and we must be careful what we are listening and becoming part of it. Great content, new subscriber here.God bless
Glory Hallelujah 🙏🙏🙌 The message is indeed not for everyone.May God be glorified for allowing his word to come to pass in our generation. What a great falling away it is. Let's trim up our lamps believers for the hour is at hand ...
Only the true bride who was predestinated before the foundations of the world were laid will accept and believe the message of the hour, all the others will come and hear the message and later on fall away because they couldn’t believe it in the first place!
God’s message of the hour??? Galatians 1 v 8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you that which we have preached unto you, let him be accused. Nowhere did Paul preach about William Branham, or any new message to come, but only the gospel of Jesus Christ. When you add NEW REVELATION to what Paul preached then you will be accursed. Also William Branham taught false doctrine of the serpent seed being Cain, and that the Trinity was of the Devil.
I've never heard of this particular cult. Thank you for sharing your story and thank God you got out! It is so important for us to question things against what the scripture says. If it does not align, it is not the truth. Period!
I'm so glad your video came up in my feed! You are doing a very good and courageous thing by exposing Branhamism!! (Yes, it is hard to pronounce and had to get in the habit of calling it that after years of calling it the message, isn't it?) I joined it when I was 16 and got out of it when I was 44. It caused so much abuse, misery, fear, and unhappiness in my life. It's so great to be free of it!!! Keep doing what you are doing!
Leslie, I’m so sorry for the abuse and hurt it caused you. But I’m so glad you learned the truth and that you are free of it. Thank you for the encouragement, I really appreciate it.
@@CRWottrich Thank you! I just got done reading your book yesterday and it was so good! You were so brave to do all that you did. I am going to review it on Amazon! I hope you keep putting out content!
Hello. Watching from South Africa. I'm interested in listening to stories like these. God definitely leads us all to the truth and the truth will set you free.
Wow. I grew up in " The Message" and far from it that i dont believe it is a cult. False and misinterpretation of bible- yes. But i wasnt trapped and forced to believe anything. No membership. Nothing. And when i grew old enough and was doing critical thinking, i just decided to stop going. And it was as simple as that. I still keep in touch with a few sisters i was friends with. And many times i contemplate my kids going sunday school to learn about Jesus and get christian friends
Why do people come in with their own anecdotes as proof of someone else's experience not being valid? It's great that your particular church and sect was only cult-lite, but that is only true for you.
Am so glad to have come across your channel. I left the group too 5y ago. I thank God for saving me and opening my eyes. I understand every beat of your story. Keep doing more videos They are a great help to many.
It’s powerful to know that we aren’t alone. I’m glad you’ve enjoyed my videos and I appreciate the support. So glad you are free of the Message/ Branhamism!
Thanks for telling your story for everyone who is interested to learn more of this cult there is another channel called “leaving the message” it is quite interesting
Girllll. This! A friend sent me your video. I’m still in a message church and getting all the info I can to help my family. More people need to talk about the message and the damage it causes. Especially with families. Thank you for your story! Please keep my family in your prayers 🙏🤗
I’m so glad you enjoyed the video. I plan on doing a message believer resource video at some point where I walk through a lot of evidence point by point and give a list of resources. Stay tuned for that.
Its the people being legalistic. Not the Message. For the Message is about Jesus Christ. And Jesus wasn't an abusive individual. He was and is kind, loving, understanding and longsuffering. I'm sorry that people think its the way things are to be. But God is compassionate and willing to give Revelation to those who seek it.
I have never felt a single day that I belonged to a cult...Usually people who were born into believing the prophet struggle....I have been to several churches, listened to their sermons and listening to William Branham made more sense to me than all...How do you claim to be a Christian and dress like the world....Everything William Branham taught was scriptural.... People just don't want to forsake their own ways and cleave to what's Holy and true
@richardapakah3497, i challenge everyone who is against the Message of William Branham to receive the genuine Baptism of the Holy Ghost then see if they will still call it a cult!
William Branham, his teachings were not all scriptural. He said hell was not eternal. There’s enough scripture to disprove him with that. His teaching on the serpent seed doctrine was false. That he was Elijah. The prophet from Malachi chapter 4 was false. That he’s the seventh angel of the book of revelation is false. Many teachings that the Branhamites bring out are false doctrine.
Things you said that are not true: Bro Braham's sermons being "on par" with scripture. Of course scripture is higher... The "message believers" I know would never say such a thing. Words that he said being "words from God" Who says message believers think this way? You're so wrong about everyone elevating Bro Branham's words above scripture. Yes, people have done it, but most have not done it. If you or your church did that, yeah, that's wrong, but don't think all "message believers" are like that. He was very much a man with faults like anyone else. Prophecies that haven't yet come to pass are much different than false prophecies. Jesus's own birth was a prophecy that took hundreds of years to come to pass, but it did. False healings? He wasn't a healer nor claimed to be. Healing is up to the individuals faith. What about all the times that he saw the future of them healed, and it did happen exactly as he said? But you throw it all out for being skeptical. Stories not being the same over years of seeing visions, give the guy a break, my own dad can't get his stories right... the vast majority was correct though, and if he didn't get the year right, or the number of people wasn't the same, those things any person could get mixed up. Numbers can get mixed up in our brains over time. See if it isn't so. By the definition of a cult, you just said Jesus's followers were a cult. Shunning, gas lighting, I've never witness this. Bro Branham was very inclusive when it came to fellowshipping with any and all Christian groups. Yes he preached against forming doctrines that can't be adjusted as happens in denominations including the message. But my "message" church is very free. Anyone can go to my church; a guy with dreadlocks got his life back together at my church (including his wife and kids returning). Isolation, information controlling? It's not information controlling, you can scrutinize every word preached, and you can look what others say about him and not like it if you so choose. His prophecies did come to pass, and there are a few future prophecies obviously about to happen like driverless cars. You are the false prophet/teacher. You have a small following. You're a cult saying Bro Branham's false. Better stone him if he is...You've got to be kidding. A prophecy is very different from a prediction. Saying "Thus saith the Lord" is very different from I predict, and this is just me speaking. But he's blamed for making human prediction when he said not to quote him on it. Where in the tapes does bro Branham make the stature of a perfect man a doctrine, what is it? There are many churches that preach about the stature of a perfect man, but it's not a doctrine I've ever heard... You're right that there can be cults around the message, but not every "message believer" is what you're saying. Most are very dedicated Bible believers that use the tapes to supplement their understanding as well as using many other teachers to do their research. It's not exclusive. The reality that I've experienced from you is much different from yours. I've also met many direct witnesses of Bro Branham. Just because you were taught a different standard to do things, doesn't mean the world is right in what it does. The Bible teaches for a woman not to cut the hair, in many multiple places. I've done my own studies on it, and it has some amazing symbiology in it. Bro Branham was rude as Elijah in the Bible was too, but that don't mean we're to use him as our example. Jesus is our example. But whoa, I'm a message believer saying this. Yes. Your church may have been strict, and rules without wisdom of why they make sense will cause rebellion as I see happened in you. But there's also a difference between looking natural with makeup and looking "different"... You definitely came from a legalistic church. Not every message church is like that. Girls can wear whatever they want to, but if you could see the spirits influencing dress and saw the future of where it'd end up like Bro Branham did, you'd have fiercely preached against it too... What's wrong with a lady wearing more feminine clothing in this transgender world? Every church has dress codes, and rules. Some more or less, but bro Branham was going to an extreme of modesty to fight the future extreme of immodesty that he saw till every year christian dancing in the church has less and less clothing being worn. And I predict within the next 7 years "christians" will go so far as dancing in church near topless (because guys can after all...) Why follow the trends of the world with low cut shirts? Why not go against the trends? Bro Branham's teachings were against the trends, but I value that courage to take a stand for what you believe is right. You don't have to agree with him or me, but I am a witness Bro Branham was a servant of God. You do him a disgrace. When my church got to see the different sites in AZ while Bro Green was documenting them on video, while we were at the site where the whirlwind came down 3 times (indicating three major earthquakes were to hit the western coastline, two have already happened), a halo rainbow appeared around the cliff outcropping know as the profile of Bro Branham for the duration we were there. I could see the myrtle trees on the one side of the road had their tops all cut short from the whirlwind, and the rock face all blown out flat. I have a picture of it that my uncle took. The rainbow was perfectly centered around the profile of Bro Branham during this documentary. My whole church witnessed it. But you say there's nothing to him, that he was a lier, a false prophet. Yet listen to the discernment. He did have a gift. There were witnesses that saw the pillar of fire in the meetings. Say what you want. I find it hard that you'd want to believe it after feeling so good bashing it. But at least, leave it alone. My advice. Wait 7 years, and if there are no driverless cars in that amount of time, then speak against it. If the Roman Catholic Church has no power in the supreme court of the US then speak against Him for saying that a woman perhaps Rome would rise up in the US. As of Oct 2021 there are 7 out of 9 Supreme court justices that are Catholic. www.law.com/nationallawjournal/2021/10/01/the-marble-palace-blog-before-the-supreme-courts-first-monday-comes-the-sunday-red-mass/?slreturn=20220230203521 If LA never slides into the ocean, then speak against it, but wait 15 years (I half expect it to happen during the 2028 Summer Olympics in LA). Will the prophecy of Russia sending an atomic bomb or something like it on the Vatican come to pass? Wait and see. He said to watch when Russia comes down for the oil. Russia tried right now to do just that. They might be stopped, and try again years later, but just watch it. People bring up the bridge prophecy saying it was false, yet I listened to old eye witness that saw that number of men fall as bridges scaffolding fell down. In that day many construction workers came to work and were given a chip, and at the day's end they turned in their chip for their wage. There was no record of who worked, and thus you wouldn't have heard who they were in the paper, nor would the construction company have wanted such news to be reported. Construction workers died all the time and went unnoticed. (my sister diligently researched and found this out) ) But who cares, we can't even go back and find out. For you can't prove it didn't happen either... But listen to the tapes of when eye witnesses testify of a prophecy that did happen. But still you can disbelieve it. You can watch Deep calleth to the Deep on RUclips, and still say he faked it all. But why not, watch and see and not judge, lest ye be judged. Like the Bible says, "Refrain from these men, and let them alone: for if this counsel or this work be of men, it will come to nought: 39But if it be of God, ye cannot overthrow it; lest haply ye be found even to fight against God." Acts 5:38
Br brahman was true prophet for this age..he came as god provided way & he stand for father’s apostles doctrines he never compromise even one bible single words like alija..he is not against to any man or women .. he is only against of devel doctrines & that lipstick painted jajibal who lead by devel doctrines… ..he is very humble man just like Poul..god bless you
@@homielifesaver2332 He is not false ,there is somany witness, pls do visit @ruclips.net/video/MA528bRQWAk/видео.html God bless you. Only believe all things are possible.
I was born into the End Time Message Church, and at 27, I decided to carve my own path. Those close to me saw this as a rejection of their beliefs, which led to my exclusion from the community and the loss of friends. This really illustrates a major issue: in this belief system with the message, if you don’t align with their views, you’re considered condemned. You are not allowed to question Brother William Marrion Branham because all he said is all true. ruclips.net/video/6WhN2JSYpdI/видео.html
Such a good idea to share this part of your testimony as a series, It’s a story I don’t get tired hearing! Make sure to put this series of videos in a YT playlist!
Hi! Some members of my family converted to branhamism and I am more and more worried about them. Thank you for your time and I look forward to hearing more from you! God bless you!!!
Hi, thanks for watching and for your comment. I’m sorry about your family; I can empathize as someone who has family still in the cult. I hope that their involvement is temporary and they find the truth. Thankfully there has been a boom in resources about Branhamism lately that expose him for who he was.
@@CRWottrich Thank you for your vidéo about branhamisme. I was branhamist I grew up in this cult but I have left beacuse brahamism is not christianity. Christianity and branhamisme are two different things. WMB brought a false Gospel and He met Avak Hagopian who was a occultist wichcraft. But what says Deuteronomy 18 verse 10 ???? Branhamism teaches false teaching. I am so so so sad for those who are still in Message Churches. They need To know the Truth. Jesus Christ is the way the Truth and Life Jesus and only him.
Hi! There is a RUclips Channel called Leaving The Message. It's brilliant, and it will give you all the facts you need, to help you, and your family. God bless you ❤
I was also raised in the message and Im no longer a part of it. Everything from this video was accurate aside from the part about education being discouraged. I'm a woman and even though myself and my family were members of the message, I was still guided to achieve a high education and find a good career. It would be too hard on a family to survive off of only one income. But there was still a choice in the matter. My sister, who's still in the message, chose to be a housewife. Being a housewife and not pursuing a career was never a rule, that was a choice.
YOU ARE A STAR, Keep on discovering yourself, your video was so inspirational for me when i was coming out, i have a video up if youre intrested in my story💜
May God bless you Seek for the holy spirit He will guide you in truth I firmly believe that Bro. Branham was the prophet for the last age. Please read Malachi 4 verse 5 to 6
@@annebritraaen2237 praise the lord sister If you read Malachi chp 4 verse 5 n 6 I.e. Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the Lord: And he shall turn the heart of the fathers to the children, and the heart of the children to their fathers, lest I come and smite the earth with a curse. So sister it is written and read as there will be Elijah coming when at 2 events The great day of the Lord And The dreadful day of the Lord So I believe that you know and too believe that St. John the Baptist was the forerunner for the first coming of the Lord Jesus Christ right And then who you believe and know is for the Second coming of the lord??? Here let me be very clear I am talking for Gentiles. Not the Jewish Coz Jewish too are expecting their prophets too come I.e Moses and Elijah But what about the Gentile bride of Jesus Christ. So there has to be a prophet And that Prophet is Bro Branham.
@@annebritraaen2237I accept that we have bible but they also had scrolls written by their prophets. I don't know but you are misunderstanding some things Guess I am not able to convey it. On RUclips if you wish you can listen and go through the topic "the life story of William Marrion Branham" And I don't claim myself that I am branhamite. But I believe that he was man sent from God And let me tell you something you cannot understand with carnal mind For that you have to have spiritual mind too
Oh my I had a boss who was in this and it’s nuts Her husband worked at the place they make the tapes. Also his grave is across the bridge and it’s weird
I was raised in the Message, we must create a WhatsApp group or something like that to share experiences and our current points of view. I'm agnostic, that's why I left the message back in 2012 my father is a Pastor.
My father is a pastor too, I currently live with family and there's mandatory church every Sunday but I stopped believing in all this around 2017 or dare I say I've always had my doubts and only started exploring elsewhere in 2017. I think I might go atheist in a couple years. My dad is older, 60 something and I don't know how I'd break it to him that I don't subscribe to what he's tried to drill in me all my life. We definitely should find a way to connect to more like us
These are wolves in sheepskin In Hinduism there was also a miracle man called Sai Baba who had Mystic abilities. He healed people from diseases like cancer and He could read people's minds and knew their past present And future He had and still has a great following throughout India and the west But He was also attracted to young boys and had heads of state under his control. He had large sums of gold and money You see Mystic abilities are not the sign of a person who loves God. People who have Mystic abilities exploit their neighbors instead of loving them.
I also grew up with this cult, and my family still follows Brother Brahnams teachings, and they still read his books and listen to tapes of brother Veil still, too.
i had a cousin his a member of william Bramham, he said that he hears voices insulting him but i think its a auditory hallucination, he also says that as if he hears my voice talking to him also but I'm not around, he invited me to the church but I'm not happy in their church, i still love my cousin even so, i don't know what to do with him i can't be so close to him he confess that he reads zodiac which i really don't like, its a spirit of fortune telling a kind of witchcraft its an abomination to the Lord
I will disprove you by the Word 1st corinthians 11: 15( long hair given for covering so a woman is nazirite. Just like samson) 1st Timothy 5:14(woman should MARRY, BEAR CHILDREN) 1st Timothy 2:9(woman should adorn herself in modest apparel. Check the dictionary meaning of “modest apparel”) Gen 35: 4( they gave Jacob their Strange gods and “EARRINGS”) For stature of the perfect man read 2peter 5-9. These are characters in which God builds in a believer who is baptized in the Holy Ghost. Now Christ is coming for a perfect bride( believer). We believers should have these qualities while waiting for the rapture.
You are making assumptions about me that are not true instead of actually hearing my story. That is not why I rejected Branham. I rejected him because he’s a false prophet by the standard of the Bible. He had many prophesies that did not come to pass. Signs that were supposed to ‘vindicate him’ did not happen the way he said and he blatantly lied many times (including about his own birthday). I’m believing the Bible over any man.
Am not sure you know about 1Timothy 2:9 and 1Timothy 2:11 read them before talk about long hair and makeup.Relate your words to the Bible. Do not rejoice in sin.
@@julietkisakye5817 I’m not sure if you know about (Acts 17:26). This verse clearly states that all men come from one bloodline, and Adam’s bloodline is the only one. The serpent seed doctrine is a false doctrine taught by a false prophet.
I have watched a lot of things, but when it comes to people claiming other person's religion is a cult on what basis do we look at it. I was lucky enough to read a few theses on what makes certain groups a cult. The question that always arises is how do you judge it. If a christian wrote those papers they need to write it according the bible. I have read SDA, Jehovah, Mormonism, etc. is cults, but on what basis? I really thought she was going to give scripture, but the things she said that that this PEOPLE follow, you can find it in the bible. Jewelry 1peter 3:3, 1 Corinthinans11:15 long hair is covering. The bible says woman dress yourself modestly 1 Timothy 2:9. I really thought you were going to give BIBLE and not just opinions. Yes going to say there is links, but I have learned not to take the word of man. Give bible examples please not your opinion, just claiming a set of people is a cult because it differs is what happened in the Dark Ages when people were burned to the stake and with no proof or basis. The bible says test all spirits through the word of God meaning bible. When Satan tempted Jesus, he said it is written. The stature of a perfect MAN: Googled it, 2 Peter 1: 1-8 bible gives a good breakdown of it End of the day if you are a Christian use the bible not opinions.
That’s right friend...that’s true! Scriptural ignorance and lack of God’s revelation of his Word. If it’s a scriptural issue then it should be challenged by the scriptures and not personal opinions.
Thank you for sharing. I think this is very important. As a child, I experienced being involved with “the message”. Although I personally do not agree with Branham’s teachings, I remember the majority of followers to be nice people who seemed to be significantly controlled based on the teachings. Unfortunately, this exact cult has been a reason my biological father and I have not had a relationship in many, many years. I am excited to hear more of what you share!
I was in the Message for 28 years and most of the people I knew were very nice. But that doesn't mean the teachings are true or that these very nice people hesitate to enforce the false teachings that destroy families and individfuals.
I was a message believer I thank Lord Jesus Christ for protecting me from that cult..it was a taboo to speak in tongues, people judge like they’re God, women are not considered in many things, Yoh
God will remain God. Even when Jesus was here on earth him self was called a belzabulb. This message is for the believers and not you a non believer. It's good that you are now in your place.
God Richly Bless you.... Everything William Branham taught was scriptural if you will only look with your spiritual binoculars... People just don't want to forsake the lust of the world and leave a Holy life..
So glad you left that place,I haven't finished watching this video yet but I have a question,are you still a believer or have you lost "lost" your faith?
@CRWottrich awesome praise the Lord!!!The only reason I'm asking is that a lot of people coming out of a cult or charismaniac movement depart from the faith.Find a good Bible believing Baptist church and follow the true Jesus of the Bible.May God keep you near to Him and God bless.
@@mariodebeer yes thank God, I am bless in that regard. It’s the main reason I started making videos and wrote my book. I hope that more people see who God really is after leaving a toxic religious environment like the message.
Brother Branham was the Prophet of Malachi 4:5-6...God proved him time and time again. God always proves His true servants, and Brother Branham portrayed the fruits of a true prophet.
Praise God for leading you out of this deception! You did a great job giving an overview of what a cult is and why Branham was a false prophet. I'm so happy to see you are using scripture as your measuring stick for truth! It's heartbreaking to see some of these testimonials. So many people come out of false movements and their faith has been shipwrecked. Thank you for sharing something so personal with all of us ❤️
May I ask you a question? If Brother Branham wasn't the fulfillment of Malachi 4: 5-6, then where is God's Elijah for today? The Word has nearly been completely revealed. The Bride is about to take Her translation. Remember the door of mercy will close without observation. Who then is the friend of the Bridegroom who introduces the Bride. Be careful!! You can identify many false prophets, but will you be able to distinguish the true one when he comes...or has he come already?!!
@@gabesanchez2613 your question basically says the following: “I have made up my mind that the Bible says what my false prophet and false teacher has told me it says, and because HE says there must be an Elijah or there must be translation or there must be whatever (even if the Bible doesn’t say any or at least some of these), I am asking you all my questions on the basis of what HE has said…” Why don’t you take a small break, shake off temporarily your cult imprinted ideas and look at the bigger picture before you try to engage in any meaningful dialogue? I am sure if you do that you will get proper responses.
@@missredumbrella I was raised in Catholicism. The Word also expresses that in the day of the Voice of the Seventh Angel. When he shall begin to sound the Mystery of God shall be finished, as He (God) hath declared to His servants the prophets. No worries though. Perhaps the Message is not meant for you. And I'm not saying that you're not saved.
@@gabesanchez2613 The message ? No not for me, full of lies and manipulations . I love my Father without William Branham interfering. This message damages people, I have seen this first hand. The walk with God is not supposed to be in riddles ,,,or fake stories . God Bless you !
23/10/24...Branamism is not a Cult but the teaching of the truthful Word of God . William Branham became one with God when preaching His Word but He were not God. ...but an instrument....used by God.
I was a Muslim and came into the message of William Branham. All you are saying is neither here not there. Every one has a following. You belong somewhere now and believe what you want to believe. The Bible say you are naked, wretched, miserable, blind and sadly don't even know it. You just can't live the life of the word of God and want a way out. My sister God loves you. Come back to the word for your day.
He had some interesting sermons. I don't think I'd classify him as a cult leader. One of the dangers of calling all other small religious groups as cults is that you also become a cult.
As someone who was raised in it and very familiar with his doctrines yes there are some “interesting sermons” but also dangerous and unbiblical teachings as I address in other videos. Definitely enough evidence to classify as a cult.
Sandra you may want to do some research your self. WMB also stated he had 1000's of letters from doctors and notary's of so called healings. Yet voice of god ministries cannot produce a single letter! why? you may want to research his sermons and inconsistencies, I will even give you the sermons so you can read them yourself: You wonder why people doubt William Branham’s testimony. Let me give you some examples: In his description of his first revival in a tent near where the Branham Tabernacle is located today, in his sermon 64-0405 WMB states a revival of 3000 people, 17 baptisms and that it occurred on the Ohio River. He also states a mystic light appear and he received his calling form God. He also stated that this event was carried on all newspapers including the AP. In the Book by Gordon Lindsey “A man sent from God” stated 130 were baptized that day, not 17. In a later sermon 50-0820E it was 100s baptized and 1000s standing next to the river. Another sermon he says 55-0117 200 to 300 were baptized and 100s standing next to the river. In 1955 55-0227E he states 500 baptized and 7-8 thousand on the river side. And in 64-0412 he stated 1000s baptized and 10 thousand were standing on the river. Archives from newspapers show us only one local newspaper had an article and it state 14 converted. Here is another example: In WMB 1946 commission to heal the sick and angel appears to him and says no disease can stand before you if you can get the people to believe you. 47-1102. He would have a healing ministry, vibrations in his hand and he would know a person’s heart. Problems are as follows: When did his calling happen: 47-1102 he says two years ago, 1945. 54-0809E he says 5-7-46. In 54-0718A he gives a date of 5-7-47. He gives at least three dates, 45,46 and 47. Then where did this call happen: 47-1102 says the angel appeared to him in his home. He also stated that he thought it was a light from a car. In his sermon 53-0509 he stated that he was in a cave when the angel appeared and then in his sermon 53-0117 he stated that it was a log cabin. WMB goes on to say in his sermon in 50-0821 it was not a car because his cabin was too far from the road. Then what was he praying: in his sermon 55-0117 it was fear and repentance. In his sermon 51-0720 he was not in fear but praising God and then in his sermon 47-1102 he was not praying but reading his Bible. Two different events, but each time he tells about the story his story changes. He would never be allowed to testify in a court of law much less be an end time prophet. All one has to do is compare his sermons and you will see he is inconsistent, is someone is inconsistent in their life’s events then this is an indication of a person lying about his lift. Two events with this kind of impact, one would remember all the details and get it right every time. No my message believer, WMB is not the man he claims. There are many more examples if you care to just examine his words. Recommend you go to CAFR videos or look up these sermons on VOG. Here are some places you may want to research yourself on Google: Searching for Vindication, Believe the Sign, www.william-branham.org and some books that may enlighten you if you are open for the real truth: Preacher behind the white hoods; Stone Mountain to Dallas; William Branham; 20th century Charlatan, investigating William Branham: the unfolding story of plagiarisms and Errors. I suspect you have drank the Kool aid left over from Jim Jones and he and WMB were friends and co leaders.
Thanks for posting this video. Some IFB/KJO Churches have similar rules we use to attend. We were looking to attend a church call "Love Divine Fellowship" only to fine they were in fellowship with a church call "Tucson Tabernacle" only to read someone's google comments: "This is a Christian Church, but influenced by the teachings of William Branham, with apostolic church overtones." What a disappointment! We attend a SBC church but will be withdrawing our membership due to "wokeism" not "legalism" if it doesn't close down first.
@@michaelgriswold1809 I don’t attend Love Divine. I attend another “message” church. But no, I do not like it. After one learns about the Bible, one cannot like the message of Branham.
@@zmartieq We ran into a similar problem with the IFB church with their strictness or legalism theology which comes from dependence on moral law rather than on personal religious faith. "Stress obedience apart from faith and you produce legalism"
I grew up in this cult aswell, my granfparents pulled us in and it was hell, me and my older brother tried to escape every sunday hoping we wouldnt have to go to their meeting, i love my grands dearly but id never go back there m, ever in my life
My family are message believers, I'm 16 years old and have no control over my life and when I say I dont want to take part in it they restrict me from my life. I am forced to wear skirts and have long hair, I cant wear makeup or do things that normal teenage girls do, I feel trapped, confused and I dont know how to get out.
Im so sorry for your situation Madison! I will be praying for you and your family this morning. I relate to that more than you know - we are about to get into it with the next few parts of my story, but I also had a difficult time as a teenager in my parents house. It may seem like a long time until you can be on your own, but I would spend time building a plan for how you can start to support yourself and move out. I moved out of my parents house when I was 19. More important than all of that though, I would advise you to ask God for help - if your parents are isolating you, I know it can be incredibly lonely and difficult. You are not alone.
I completely relate. I ran away in the end. That sadly ended up in a huge mess. This whole thing really messes with your mind. Especially when you have to cut off parents as limited support to being in the big bad world. I wish you well.
People all over the world are leaving The message, adventist, Mennonites, Catholic etc the question should be, are they going back to Christ to have a personal relationship with Him? The Word of God is the final authority in a believer's life. That's what matters. There are so many people talking about false prophets but very few of them can point out true believers that are walking in the prophetic gift. Watch out for deception of the age!
Who is she trying to impress when broadcasting to the RUclips world that she left a religion? I personally don't need to hear her bragging about getting her ears pierced and cutting her hair. She seems self-centered. It's not really called "Branhamism", though. It's a Bible-based belief, with even quite a few Bible verses that described how a prophet would be here. If it wasn't William Marion Branham, does she think she can tell us who it was, then? We are, in fact, near a third world war, and the Bible speaks of calamities and bad things that would indicate thus to be near the ending of the world, so if she's reading this lengthy comment, I hope she can tell me who that prophet is, since she's so intellectual and full of what she thinks is truer knowledge than what she was taught before.
William Brenham was a very gifted man of God, healing evangelist. I understand he had a very profound prophetic gifting. However I also understand his theology and teachings where not sound in later years before his passing. The Bible is always our plum line to test and measure teaching and prophecy
Did you listen to the message yourself or do you just follow these make believers.... 11:25 At that time Jesus answered and said, I thank thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent, and hast revealed them unto babes.11:26 Even so, Father: for so it seemed good in thy sight. Matthew 11:25
@@ryanehlis426 Yes just like in the days of the Lord Jesus in His Son of Man ministry.... 6:64 But there are some of you that believe not. For Jesus knew from the beginning who they were that believed not, and who should betray him.6:65 And he said, Therefore said I unto you, that no man can come unto me, except it were given unto him of my Father.6:66 From that time many of his disciples went back, and walked no more with him. John (666)👈🤔
@@ryanehlis426 Bro Branham ministry is either the fulfillment of the Elijah of Malachi 4...Luke 17:30...Rev 3...Revelation 10:7 etc...or he was a delusional man.... It all boils down to your choice.... The church people in Jesus's day said for Good works we stone the not but because Thou makes Thyself the Spoken Word of God made manifest. 10:32 Jesus answered them, Many good works have I shewed you from my Father; for which of those works do ye stone me? 10:33 The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God. John 10
“Now, that make-believer is considered the hypocrite. Now, let's take a makebeliever. It was Judas. He was the make-believer. And the make-believer hangs on and on, trying to find some way that they can get something on it. They stick around long enough just to find out if they can't find a little fault, then go out and expose it somewhere. "We want to find what kind of a gimmick, what rabbit foot you got that rubs behind your ears. What is the gimmick?" so they can impersonate It or something. That's make-believers. That's Judatarian.” (Go awake Jesus: 63-1130E)
My last name is Branham, thats how I found out about branhamism but im not a follower. Christ is king 👑 and his word is the word i follow to the best of my ability.
Hello, I plan to do a video on this after the series, when I was in The Message I was taught I could not doubt for a moment or I was sinning, so I did not question he had many prophesies that came to pass. When I finally was doing research, I saw the hard reality. I was hard pressed to find any real prophesies that were not super vague that came to pass. What I did find however, was a trail of unfulfilled prophesies that were justified away or covered up, or prophesies so vague they could perhaps still happen. He also would change they way he shared the prophesy over time. here is a resource for you: en.believethesign.com/index.php?title=The_Prophecies_of_William_Branham
Shalom bayo @true dear the message of the hour is mystery revealed only to the bride of Jesus, not to everyone My love for William Branham ❤is immeasurable Seventh age prophet I thank God for him. This lady has no idea who Branham was.. I Pity her.
@@missredumbrella that's your opinion and it isn't right, I researched 1st b4 I concluded He is a true Prophet of God Am a witness of a true message via William Martin Branham . We are here to stay and forever will be @the message ❤♥💜💙 Endless
Satan will perform false signs and wonders as well...read the scripture...it only takes ONE false prophecy to make someone a false prophet! God is 100%accurate at all times...look at all these bafoons who said trump would win...then they still held on to their lies and said oh you just gotta wait...it will happen. False prophets everywhere!!!
It is an interesting topic. I've never heard of 'Branhamism' before. I'm looking forward to hearing more. Thank God for the gift of Salvation. New subscriber ✅
While I don’t live this message a lot of this is not true. Most of my family was all brought up in the message. I know many girls in the message that wear sleeveless shirts and wear their tops lower than 2 fingers. I know many religions that teach you to dress moral as well and find nothing wrong with that As far as tattoos go, the Bible does mention about desecrating your body.
If I leave the message of the day! I keep quiet and live a sinful life, I criticize it not and be the servant of the devil.... But I understand it's hard to take a pit bull like this Message, people want to live in sin and claim to be a Christian but a pit bull like this one its difficult.
Imagine calling a person a dog!? So i’m guessing God approves you insulting people ? Being a hypocrite by telling her to not criticise yet you’re here calling her names? Let me show your comment to your pastor in fact.
@@abigail71999 no one was called a dog! "ITS HARD TO TAKE A PITBULL LIKE THIS MESSAGE" - not everyone loves a pitbull because it's rugged, it's a figure of speech meaning it's hard to take a hard message like this. Go show your pastor that's not a problem at all, I reverse not what I've said
@@abigail71999 I'm not here to teach you English, if you missed it in class I'm sorry but if possible I'll do anything to help you understand PUNCTUATIONS
The last part mentioned is about tattoos, piercing, make up and modest apparel. How is that not biblical ? We better pray for revelation before taking what makes sense to our minds.
I didn’t know what this comment meant when I initially read it…. Just reviewing my comments today and realized your name 😂😅 Yes the cult being named “Branhamism” is unfortunate for you. Thankfully it also goes by “the message” 😬
Hi charity good morning ; you are commenting on Brother Branham as your foundation for your video , taking Bible Scriptures, so Did he as The Lord Jesus being his foundation.,here is for you ,read it ,take Genesis 3:13-15 serpent seed ! and the first book of Corinthians chapter 11. cutting of hair check it out! and 2nd Kings 9:30-37for the lesson of painted face [Jezebel! } You want to look different go ahead that is our privilege given by God All Mighty is also known as choosing ,, Mother Eve did that too ,,,, if some one in this world tell you that drinking ,smoking paint your face is not good for you is because they have love for you ,you want to check it out on your own is ok, and I am glad you are taking the Bible try to read the scripture that you are referring to in your videos it will be very good for you and your viewers, sincerely Aurora
I was attending a bible study that on reflection was less study and more indoctrination. When the facilitator brought up the serpent seed belief, the holy spirit immediately warned me to challenge this. The facilitator then tried bullying me and claiming I was such a young Christian that I needed more ---indoctrination--before I understood. His 30+ years of study made him superior in wisdom. After the study ended premature due to my challenge, others admitted to me they too didn't believe. I asked them why they didn't speak up and they just shied from commenting. They didn't want to make a scene. So beware of cults and indoctrination. The bible is the Word not these heretics.
As cults work. So glad you stayed free
It was the Holy Spirit that warned you, not only because of my personal experience too but because this doctrine is absolutely evil.
It is the definition of “doctrines of devils/demons”. It is directly refuted by the Word (Gen 4:1). Branham got this doctrine from the KKK that ordained him as minister, and in the KKK it was used as a biblical justification for white supremacy and marital segregation (even segregation in general).
It’s history goes all the way back to Iraneus who mentions it and condemns as a heresy (Against Heresies).
Only through “Bible study”, ie one-way communication which amounts to indoctrination/brainwashing (aka “revelation”) can it ever be accepted by cult members/victims.
@wanagi horse if it was the Holy Spirit though, do you think you might be in real trouble by what you are saying?
So William Branham taught that Cain was the biological son of the serpent, and Able was the biological son of Adam, and then replaced by Seth when Able died.
So this is what we have.
Cain has the serpent bloodline
Seth has Adam’s bloodline
Two separate original bloodlines the serpent’s and Adam’s, and this is William Branham’s doctrine of serpent seed.
Acts 17 v 26
And hath made of (ONE BLOOD) all nations of men for to dwell on all the face of the earth, and hath determined the times before appointed, and the bounds of their habitation.
The Bible teaches one blood created ALL NATIONS OF MEN, and that one bloodline is Adam’s.
Also
Genesis 4 v 1-2
1. And Adam knew Eve his wife; and she conceived, and bare Cain, and said, I have gotten a man from the Lord.
Verse 1 is about the first conception and it is clear who the father is, ADAM
Then the second verse
2. And she (AGAIN) bare his brother Able. And Able was a keeper of sheep, but Cain was a tiller of the ground.
Nowhere in either verse is the serpent spoken about, and it is also clearly saying that Adam is Cain’s father in the 1st verse.
When your prophet contradicts the clear teachings of the Bible it is time to run from that said prophet.
Now you will say but but but he did so many miracles.
Matthew 24 v 23-24 is what’s going on.
He had a bunch of yes men and they worked the prayer cards so he would know the problems people had, and then when he knew their problems they were surprised, but it was the prayer cards he was used to get the info on them.
And there are people who died from the same problems that William Branham said he cured them from.
He is also wrong about the Trinity, and plenty of verses prove it.
@@homielifesaver2332 so you really think an apple caused them to realize they were naked? That evil seed had to come from somewhere. Adam was God's creation it wasn't Adam's seed. It's obvious.. why lie about healings? If that was the case he would have lived a rich lifestyle and not dedicate all his time preaching. Doesn't make logical sense. You will find out one day . Blind as the pharasees were
Hi!
I was born and grew up in the message.
I'm 23 and I have been discovering some weird things about it.
I am not officially out yet but I am doing researches, gathering proofs... That's why I came across this video.
May God help me.
Brother, stay in the word , you know that wnb is the word for the bride remember the sun comes out for the just and the unjust ,this message is not for everybody they r not leaving the message , the message is leaving them , dont u see that theres nothing left of tge message ib them the just want to live like the word they are not eagles, they are falcons and cannot resist the pressure because cannot any higher god bless
@@gilbertoalvarez6067 The more I am reading the word of GOD, the more I am confused with the message.
Sure, I will stay in the word of GOD and if something doesn't align with it, I will just throw it away.
@@gilbertoalvarez6067wise words brother man
Hello, I would recommend a RUclips channel called Leaving The Message. It has all the research, and answers you could possibly need. God bless you ❤
@@gascesemesilus5197Hello! I would recommend a RUclips channel called Leaving The Message. Such detailed research, I am sure it will be the answer to your questions. God bless you ❤
I am a Message Believer...but sometimes I am also ashamed to how certain Message churches are going about spreading the Message but its not enough to "force" me out of the Message. Judging from what you saying it has come to my attention that people don't like to be told to dress decently or women are not allowed to cut their hair (it is in the Bible btw, it is not Branhamism). People want to live their lives as they see fit and not be guided by the FULL Word of God...but most people just want to accept the parts that makes them feel good and not the parts that condemns them. I am not a biased person, some churches even baptise people in Branham's name...which is TOTALLY wrong. He was just a man also...In todays life people starting calling something a cult just because it goes against the way things are done today in the modern days.
Remember...the prophets in the Bible also made mistakes and disobeyed God cause they were also just human.
Now that the Prophet is gone everyone has something to say about him...but everyone was afraid to challenge him when he was around...
Here frome germany ... God bess you Brother
Mistakes are fine. Lying over and over and over and over and over and over and over isn't. Contradicting the Bible isn't. Abusing the trust of believers isn't.
I am very blessed by the ministry of the prophet of God, the brother William Marrion Branham.
@@ioanfaur3200 Hey, sounds like what most cult followers say!
@@hirotheavitar It's important what God says about me and about others, not what those disbelievers who made this video, are telling you !
It is alarming to see how well known William and "the message" actually is in modern day. My childs father almost dragged me into this but my spirit pull me out.
You really dodged a bullet there.
same here, my cousin invited me once and the Lord did not allowed me to intend again
I heard of him but didn't know he still had followers. Thought that was all over.
its because its God sovereignty to choose whom He will choose did Jesus said no one can come unto except the Father draweth.
The message isn't meant for everyone. To some, it's bondage, but to others, it's the grace of God by the revelation of Jesus christ Peter 1:13
Thanks to these video series,
I started researching the "message" and decided to leave 2 months later. Thank you. Its been quite a roller-coaster ride, from depression to freedom, still having difficult days. But ultimately I am please to say I left such a horrible cult. Btw. I was even a minister.
How long did you stay there?
As a kid when my dad joined the message, we could no longer have a Christmas tree, passing sports was frowned upon, I watched my dad routinely beat the brakes of my mom off she trimmed her hair, wore little make up, or heaven forbid put on a pair of pants. We lived in constant fear.
I was raised in this cult in AZ and left 4 years ago! Ive only recently come to terms with the fact that I was raised in a true cult. Subscribed!
I too Tiffany was in a church in AZ Ron Peterson is the great deceiver of this church he is a little Hitler and I feel sorry for the ones there that’s afraid to leave
Strange how people said the exact same thing in the days of Jesus. Nobody believes there can be a prophet in their day. There are people and groups in the message that are a cult absolutely but as far as the message from William Branham, he only said what Paul and the other prophets spoke. If you were in the days of Jesus, you would have been yelling “give us Barabas”
@benjaminfigure4734, God bless you
Wolves in sheepskin
@@julesana8818 he was a prophet and God. He is called a prophet in several instances in the New Testament.
@@HDR_AmericaI've always listened and continue to listen to Branham's sermons because I honestly believe his teachings are true. William Branham is not God, and he has never claimed to be God to anyone. People like you destroy God's kingdom and undermine William Branham's ministry. You carry out the devil's plan to transform a Branham into a god, obstructing people's ability to see the truth in his sermons and ministry. Branham would always insist "I'm not Jesus; I'm just a man; I'm your brother,". Please quit lying to people, if you tell lies about the God you believe you serve, he has the power to destroy you because you're not different from a devil. The devils believe in God and tremble at the mention of his name, but the devil is a deceiver.
As they did in Noah's time as well. As they did everytime
The message minions have come to issue their judgment. Quite typical. And actually blatant vindication that they follow cult behaviors to the letter. Keep sharing your truth sis! I can tell by your answers that you have a sweet soul!! God Bless!
Thank you for your comment and kindness. God bless you as well
Circle:Which Church do you go to?
Do u believe. The 5 fold ministry preachings .it is the truth & only the truth
Stop calling this a cult, it's offensive word if you dont like the message keep it to yourself stop intoxicating people. I grew up in the message and Brother Branham is a real prophet of Jesus. All his his prophecy came to pass I mean even the picture taken with the halo on his head that was when the FBI criticized him of being a fake prophet. Today that picture sits in the museum Dc Washington proven by the FBI agent that the camera captured the halo. You just want to live like this young worldly girls, there is no civilization in Christianity life Jesus Christ is the same yesterday today and forever what he condemned yesterday he will condemn today. Go read your bible and take of that ear ring the bible condemns it, it's sign of slavery.
@@toyoufrombeniunbothored2213 oh you poor poor soul. There is so much you don't know because you are blinded. What you think you know is just a mirage. It's not real. I, too grew up in the message. It is very much a cult and you are very much brainwashed. Cult is not an offensive word. Please look up the definition and criteria of a cult. Good luck!
Hi Charity, thank you so much for bravely sharing your story publicly.
I too was raised in the message, but being a guy, I suppose I had it easier in some ways. I thank God that my eyes were opened and I was able to leave this destructive cult. Some of my close family are still in the cult and my heart does break for them sometimes.
I believe your videos will be quite useful and inspirational to a lot of people who may be stuck in the message or similar organisations and who may be desperately seeking the courage to leave. Keep up the good work on this channel.
I grew up with this as well and attended until my early 80s. I initially attended in the Caribbean (where one of my uncles is still a minister), and then after moving to the US attended the Local Christian Assembly in NY (where Joseph Coleman preached about 7 Thunders--Coleman began this theory following the death of William Branham, undoubtedly to position himself as the new leader). I didn't attend the church in NY because I believe the seven thunders according to Joe Coleman, but because it was the only church in NY and the rule of "forsaking not the assembly..." loomed largely. I got married in the NY church, at 18yrs old, to a man that was physically and emotionally abusive to me throughout the marriage (abuse that Joseph Coleman, his wife, and other church officials were aware of, but did nothing to help with). Someone who had attended the NY church years before I did, eventually told me that Coleman, had also been physically and emotionally abusive to his wife, and that was how I realized, that when his wife told me, "Any woman can make a man hit her" and the fact that they offered no counseling to my spouse for his behavior which began within days of the marriage, I was destined to live unhappily for the rest of my life. Thankfully, I walked away from the marriage and the message after almost 5 yrs of marital hell. The experiences of being in those message groups were night and day. In the church in NY, Joseph Coleman held a long-standing grudge against people from Trinidad, because of the fact that when he came to preach seven thunders the ministers did not readily embrace it as others had done in other parts of the world. The NY church was unfriendly to the point of being cliquish and unchristian. Before the pandemic, I visited the church and there seemed to have been several modifications; for one they may not have TVs because of the no TV rule, but they love youtube and access it on phones, and tablets--my guess is that they still feel they're not watching TV. The NY church I understand has split into two groups, one of which is preaching a version of 2 souls. Prior to Coleman's death, his son Jonathan Coleman and several coconspirators who were officials in the NY church were convicted of felony charges for Securities fraud (Yes people in the message were defrauded of their money--one elderly sister of her life savings; she died of a heart attack from the stress of that loss), then after his stint in Federal prison Jonathan Coleman, a convicted felon who also exhibited homosexual tendencies (which is highly frowned upon by the group) was welcomed back into the pulpit (there is a video of Jesse Robledo welcoming him back to the pulpit with the only explanation being that he was his brother in law and he loves him). The ultimate for me is a video I saw on RUclips, where Billy Paul Braham, who is still saying he is not old, but undoubtedly now qualifies for Medicare and Social Security (and probably collects these benefits) literally referred to his brother Joseph Braham as the prophet, no double for purposes of succession and the fact that the admission that Billy is old, would invalidate the prophecy of "thus sayeth the Lord that a disastrous flood (California will sink), due would take place before he is old.
Im so sorry Wendy for the abuse that you’ve endured and I’m sorry for the way it was handled within that message church. I attended the LCA in PA, and as you likely know that church was considered “one church” with the NY location and streamed all the sermons. If you watch other parts in this series you will see that I share a lot about Joseph Coleman. I mentioned the investment con in my book, Where the Willow Weeps. My parents also lost a lot of money in that scam. It’s hard to believe they would stay after a Ponzi scheme was endorsed through the pulpit, but cults have a way of keeping people’s loyalty despite things like that.
Again I’m so sorry for your trauma and am glad that you are (sounds like) now getting help and finding healing from that abuse. God bless you Wendy ❤️
@@CRWottrich Thank you. Sorry to hear about your parents, being caught up in the mini Madoff scheme. Years ago before the current church building in New York was built they had a building fund to rebuild the church, and when the believers had donated,, Coleman went on a tirade because he didn't think the funds were enough (people who lived in their tiny NY apartments, who had more kids than they could feed were shamed into pledging more money than they could afford). Finally, when the pledges were in before the church was rebuilt, Coleman announced that God had led him to build a second home in the Poconos; years before that God had "laid" on Anthony Fiore, the Associate Pastor's heart that the church should pay off the mortgage on Coleman's Westbury, NY home. The house was built and completed before the church was. It was a home that none but a select few were ever invited to, however, a housewarming dinner was arranged to honor it at Anton's in Westbury, where you were expected to buy a gift on the list as well as purchase a ticket to the event. This and other events surrounding the Coleman's shone a spotlight on their materialistic aspirations, which to me made the Ponzi scheme no surprise.
Hello, I would highly recommend a RUclips Channel called Leaving The Message. Your testimony would be so appreciated. God bless you ❤
is there any where in the Sermons of William Branham where he said Thus Saith the Lord" Billy Paul will not be an old man and see california sink? Was it a Thus Saith the Lord?
I watched your video and found it misleading. It seems you don’t fully grasp Brother Branham’s teachings, which indicates a lack of understanding of the Bible's depth as well. I suggest you avoid jumping to conclusions about what you might not completely understand. As a believer in Branham’s message, it's clear to me how insightful and knowledgeable he was, supporting education as a valuable pursuit-like my own two higher education degrees. I recommend conducting thorough research with a logical and rational mindset regarding Branham’s work, and consider revising your video to reflect a more informed view.
Bro Branham's ministry always leads us to christ, not to Himself.
Amen
@@eagleeye2746 That would be your very specific *interpretation* to your *very* specific experience. I have Muslim neighbors who are kind in every way -- would you assume that means that all followers of their faith behave the same and believe the same? Many, many, many people have had the experiences she is stating.
His teachings are wrong lol.
Personally, it led me to depression and confusion. And being brutally honest here, it actually drove me away from God. So glad I’m out of it now. I’ve made my way back to the lord after some time though
@@Rkk-kk3gw Idek how to get outta this since my direct family is so engrained it it
William Branham was translated beyond the curtain of time to give the Bride of Jesus Christ a foretaste of what it will be. (Listen to his sermon: The rejected King) The key: Perfect Love. Love your enemies.
William Branham contradicted the Bible.
He predicted 1977 as the end of the world. Say no more.
@@homielifesaver2332 outright, and himself. And he was a 2 faced racist who was personally tight with the grand wizard of the KKK.
I have no idea why people were taken with this guy... and I'm a Pentacostal!
Bro Brahnam is a true prophet of God, I believe his message and Iam his follower!!
Amen! The rejected King glory to God!
Seems like the only ones not being called a cult , is the ones who love the world and the things of the world. If you love Hollywood , then you are not cultish, if you love sport heroes, then you are not cultish, if you love the fashions of the world, then you are not cultish, if you love the music of the world, then you are not cultish, if you love money and making money, then you are not cultish, if you like parties , then you are not cultish, if you like mixing religion with other religions then you are not cultish. if you like disobeying and disrespecting your parents then you are not cultish. Fact is the new birth is not like pop corn and it doesn,t come cheap. Pick up your cross and carry it.
I think perhaps you may not understand what a cult actually is by definition. Once you understand what a cult is and how a cult works you will recognize cults in many "secular" places as well. Hollywood is full of cults. But what makes a cult? Look into it.
Agree.
They will find out.
@johannesmarais1731, God bless you! You have quiet the eye!
@johannesmarals1731 - Good list, and you're beginning to make a good point, but it still bears fleshing out and a more thorough and contextual analysis. As it stands, your comment is very vague and general in a highly debatable manner. Who judges who is worldly in a carnal way? If I like Jazz, Rock, Soul music, is that by definition "worldly" and I must repent? Or what in Jazz is OK, what is not? Are all parties bad? If not, which ones? Part of what the "new birth" is is freedom with discipline. Meat sacrificed to idols, anyone? Yes, count me in! See what I mean?
If you don't believe it, don't talk about it. Don't make fun of it. Just walk away. I'll be praying for you. I grew up in this message. I came against it. My whole family did besides my dad. I researched myself. It is 110% the truth brother branham he is just a voice that God uses return unto me and I will return unto you
What a disgusting thing to say. Would you also tell someone they shouldn't warn that water from a lake will kill you? Why wouldn't she want to warn others away from false prophets? Even if you don't believe the same as her, what a ridiculous thing to say.
@@hirotheavitarWow he didn't say anything disgusting? I bet you go to church every Sunday and talk negatively like this to people during the week vs turning the other cheek. Whether you agree with him or her maybe you need to scroll on vs responding. He has a right to defend his beliefs, just like you do with your negative assertion of his comment. We all can agree to disagree, now that is our GOD given right. Have some class instead of making yourself look bad. SMH
Thank you so much for having the courage to speak up about this. I see the comments on this video and know you're catching flack from others still in the cult. Stay strong. I was once in your shoes. ❤️ Praying for your strength, wisdom, and discernment. Let God guide you.
Tell me what did brother Branham told us that's not in the Bible? The voice of brother branham Led me to Jesus Christ.
Hi, I would highly recommend a RUclips channel called Leaving The Message. It's brilliant. God bless you ❤
I also grew up in this message cult all the way from South Africa and I really am enjoying your content, new subbie 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
Thanks for the sub Hope! Glad to have you here ❤️❤️
@@CRWottrichYou are wrong. Stop the lies
I was never in The Message - but I had heard of William Brahnam while growing up. I have known vaguely of his ministry. I'm just so shocked at everything I have recently learnt about the ministry. Glad you got out. I think I saw your comment on Beulah Mashego's video on why she left The Message.
My bf attends the message...well ex
Interesting. I’ve not heard of Branhamism. Sad how deceptive false religions amd cults can be.
It is very sad, hopefully I can help some people identify non biblical traits so that they can get out. Thank you for watching.
Shannon:Just listen to one sermon that William Branham has preached you will be blessed
I have walked a life of seeking the truth and in my journey, the Lord Jesus Christ Himself led me to the Message Of William Marrion Branham! i wasn't indoctrinated into it by man which makes it difficult for any mortal to indoctrinated me out of it. I must admit, no other Message was going to really transform me into a real Christian in the light of the so many voices around in these endtimes! Its been 18 years now and i thank God for sending us William Branham, a type of Haggai instructing Esther on the true taste of the King! I am quiet optimistic when the Bridegroom(Our Lord Jesus Christ) comes(in the Rapture which is upon us), i shall truly be like him! I respect your convictions my sister! The Message of the Hour came for those its predestinated unto! I wished actually i would have like you grown up being influenced by this Message, certain wounds i got would never have come my way! Nevertheless, i count God's timing all joy! And i just hope and trust you havent become worse than you were in terms of your relationship with Jesus Christ our Lord since you left! For i have seen the worst amongst many who left(some became gay, drug addicts, whoremongers, harlots)! Its sad! Anyway, May God bless you!
I too was brought up in this cult... there is a lot of information on spotify a podcast called William Branham Historical Research .... My family are still members and sadly have nothing to do with me, my kids or grandkids....since I questioned my mum. I still believe in God .
I'm sorry your family is shunning you! Another case of the so called end time message destroying a family. So sad.
@@lesliewells1062 In all honesty it has helped so much with my mental state and the kids don't miss what they never had I guess...but thank you .
@@missredumbrella I can understand that because any time I've been around people still in the message, they talk about over and over, and it's upsetting and unsettling. I hope you are doing good! I know we both are compared to when we were in the message.
@@lesliewells1062 I am ok, thank you :) and yes we were compared as that is one thing they are gifted in ....
I completely connect with what you're saying. We were raised with the long hair for girls and shaved hair for guys (my dad liked to add... to the "religion"). My dad was horrific and would make my life hell telling me he would throw me out of the house at 12 years old and onwards. I really wanted to commit suicide. We were getting hell at school for looking so weird but the hell continued and got worse at home. I don't speak to my parents anymore.
Hi, I can empathize with your story. I’m so sorry for the abuse you endured. I too suffered abuse in the message from family and from others in the church. I have several friends who were abused by family members who justified that abuse using Branham’s words. It’s truly horrific to think of how that environment fostered abuse. The way that women and children were pushed down, corporal punishment was so heavily encouraged, and obeying authority no matter what… it’s awful. All I can say is that you are not alone and I’m so glad that you have found out the truth about Branham. Thanks for watching ❤️
Dear Jaja 001
I am so sorry that you experienced such a horrific up bringing.
I can never imagine the betrayal that you experienced, being in the mist a place that is meant to be living truth and love.
Please don't think that what you suffer this is the ethos of all message churches??
Before l came into the message church, l suffered bullying and sexual molestation from a person who was meant to be my father.
This stated when l was 4 years old,till l was years old!
The effects of this abuse would have continued forever,if l hadn't been led into a message church, here in London, UK.
The message isn't William Branham, it's the Lord jesus christ,through his prophets?
God bless you!
@@creative-community-cafe That's right👍May God bless you. And grant your hearts desires my sister 🙏
Jesus Loves you, your parents may have treated you that way but is brother branham treated you that way? Did you seek God and aske him if brother Branham is truly is servant? Sometimes we all get to a point where you start wandering am I truly following the Right path we things doesn't work the way you thought it would but you have a God that loves you soo much that if you humble yourself to him and ask him if this message is truly is will for this end time God will answer you and I'm not gonna tell you what he is going to say but wait on the lord and be patient and go sincerely in prayer and in a correct approach to God and see what God is going to tell you. Don't lay on people's beliefs or point of view but seek the revelation on your knees for yourself, if the holy ghost convince you nothing will be able to change your mind. I love you soo much.
See Das ur parents Das not him him himself his children were trouble but he never done anything extreem
I grew up with you guys and I know what your talking about keep doing what your doing charity share that message love and miss you girl! So glad we left that church wasn’t good for anyone and all the rules I never followed cause I knew it was a cult and it really messed me up as a child also , even though my childhood wasn’t good from the start. I remember we couldn’t wear make up , no jewelry , no cutting hair and more rules I never followed that’s another reason I left and told my grandparents I would never return I know you and hope we’re lonely without me but I couldnt handle the abuse we all took every Sunday your doing a wonderful thing and your so successful I’m beyond proud you and how far we have all come it’s amazing!!!
Im so glad you’re doing well and that you got out of there. Thank you for your encouraging words. I’m so thankful that I’m out, you’re out, and many other people I knew as a kid. God is good, and still in the business of redeeming people’s stories. I appreciate you watching and taking the time to leave a comment 💗💗
@@CRWottrich thank you same to you hun! your so welcome I still have all our childhood pictures I will forever cherish! I’m so glad we all realized that church wasn’t good for us and we all grew up to be amazing individuals I found Christ the right way when I left when I was 12 years old I still remember wearing jeans and earrings and I was told never to return and they told me they were ashamed of me as a child I was messed up from it but even though we always were shamed for doing everything was always a sin, but you know what it made us stronger in the long run! And they were the ones wrong not us😘❤️ 💪🏼
@@brittanynowland2984 you’re right! I’m so glad you found Christ and I’m glad we are stronger now. ❤️
i feel you! but its not about how to live the message but the message or the word living in you! most people and leaders are carnal, what they see in the message are laws, they force there members to live a right kind of life, code of rules, how be it when the Spirit will come He will into all Truth, and how can we live if our eyes blinded by the sysstem of men, the message is for the elect, not for the reprobates, not for the seed of discrepancy, not for seekers of money, it has to be a right vessel, right season, and right time that the message of the Prophet sounded become a living Word, not a code of rules but a life of Christ because the Holy Ghost and the Word are one and the same, the Word must become one to the body,.. the mystery are not for everybody for there is standing among this generation of vipers that perfectly receieved the harmony of the Father and the Son.. to them that are lost the message is hid, but to them that called before the foundation of the world, they will see Jesuss Christ again... Amen!
Are we naturally meant to we wear make up? Where could the idea of adding on to our beauty come from?
I admire such a display of boldness and audacity. But I do have few questions to ask you.
1. Have you ever had a sincere desire to know what the Message truly is?
2. Have you ever sought in your life as a Message believer to know why you had to live the way you were taught to live?
3. Was there ever a time where you truly desired to compare the Message and Bible to see whether the teachings of WMB are true or false? Have you truly thought about the teachings yourself, or you had to swallow what you were told?
From your presentation and a lot of the comments I read here, I can only see a young lady and people who have had to abide by certain rules and regulations during their upbringing. Unfortunately, your inability to cope with such 'rules and regulations' have caused you to deny and even stand against a man of God who did nothing but to point you back to the Truth.
I don't condemn you or anyone who has also taken the steps you took. I believe if you had gone an extra mile to seek the truth for yourself, and not merely abide by the so-called rules and regulations, you would have found out what all of these is about.
I wasn't born and raised in the Message like you were. But when I accepted this Message, I was not made to abide by 'rules and regulations' (I don't even think there's anything like that in the teachings of the Message).
Frankly, there was never a day that I taught, ''hey, I need to cut my hair short (as a guy), or I need to do this or do that in order be saved or go to heaven''.
I was introduced to a God who takes a sinful life, changes it and makes it live for Him.
I was taught to love Christ and have a personal relationship with Him. I was taught to invite His Holy Spirit in my heart which will automatically make me love Him and want to live my life to His glory and to do what He wants me to do. (If this isn't the Bible, then I don't what is)
You see? This is the difference between being the message movement and being in Christ (the Message). And from what I see, you were in the former - a message believer who was blinded by the letter and failed to see Christ beyond the thick walls of mostly man-made rules and regulations.
You see, I dress modestly not because I want to abide by a rule, but because I love Jesus Christ, and it's not me doing it but Christ living in me.
I love you too well to see you throw away your life like this. I admonish you to consider these and try to locate Christ in all of these.
But obviously the choice is yours to make, and I hope you make the right one.
@Benjamin, God bless you
she still believes in Jezus Christ, she didnt lose faith in general. She said this in another comment. And God is allknowing so he knows her heart and why she made the decisions she made, and why she thinks those are the best ones. Only God can judge her.
The Message is true. It is the vindicated Word of God. People are affected by the Word of God in different ways and the result is: True believers; make-believers or unbelievers. Some people go overboard and others stay in the middle of the road. This applies to any faith group. The Message is a Message of Divine Love and the Full Restoration of the Bride to the Original Word, Back to Eden. When people fail to live it the way Bro Branham delivered it as the 7th Messenger, Eliezer of this day, it does not make the Message a cult. Search the Message that bro Branham preached and compare it with the Bible, it dovetails! This Message is True brethren. Please do not spend your time fighting and arguing over this Message, It is vindicated with True signs and miracles following. It speaks for Itself! Our prophet taught us not to fuss over it. It spoke for itself during bro Branham’s time, hence the Pillar of Fire being photographed with Bro Branham. Spirits do not die so let the critics carry on as we continue to make ourselves for the Rapture. This is a Message of love and grace and it is for the Predestinated Seed of Abraham. Let’s pray for the critics and love them anyhow! One day the Lord Jesus Christ will reveal the Truth to them. What is happening now happened during the time of the Lord Jesus Christ. Critics will always be there. Let’s prepare for His coming! It’s nearer than we think. It is not the time to waste fussing with the unbeliever. Let’s pray for them and love them 🙏🏽
Cult!!
@@deborahonabanjo l feel very sorry for your arrogant, shallow single word statement !!!
@@creative-community-cafe That is you branhamites. The funny thing is most of us who leave your cult usually remain Christian because it was never about not following Christ for us. It’s about not following a con man whose son wouldn’t give blood to save his life. Follow Christ not a man whose life ended in the 60’s.
The bible does tell us how to know when they are false prophets... If they prophesy and it doesn't come to pass... What I have a problem with is when people add to scripture, when it is not in it... No where in the bible does it say that Eve laid with the devil🤷♀️
Also, when a religion tells you, you did wrong because you married someone that is not the same skin color as you. That we should not mix. I have a problem with that...
@@sexicanag8299 Exactly I think it’s insane what they believe. It Isn’t biblical at all. But then again these are people who listen to tapes laced with mysticism from the 60’s from Brahman. It’s very convincing because it f the witchcraft element of it. Branham was beyond evil to me. If they did their research they would know he was a racist democrat who ran around with kkk members like Roy E Davis. Branham was not a prophet but a cult leader. I’m sure many are aware that are part of this cult of exactly what it is. The childhood friend who lead me there, I feel so sorry for. A prophet told me she’s trapped in that church spiritually. That they tamper with peoples blessings and destiny’s. In order words their job is up take them or destroy it. This girl can’t hold down a job to save her life. I see now that her problems are spiritual.
I love everything about this ❤️ also, I love that you’ve responded with kindness and consideration to the people belittling you and trying to shut you down. You have incredible strength and love, and I hope you know how respected and supported you are.
Thank you so much Marissa ❤️ your support and kindness warms my heart. Thanks for watching and commenting!
I loved all this video, but what was particularly relevant to me was the bit about tactics of cults, particularly isolation. My parents, who have since officially shunned me, tried very hard to keep me isolated growing up. While they claimed to be Christians (independent fundamental baptist) I’d say their specific beliefs and practices were definitely cult-ish.
I’m so sorry about the shunning. I know all too well the feeling. 💔 I’ve heard of a lot of “fundamentalist” churches having a lot of cult traits. It’s super sad. Have you heard of “the Modesty Files” it’s a relatively new podcast talking about women who left their ‘fundementalist’ churches. Unfortunately, shunning is all too common in legalistic groups like that. So sorry that you had to go through that.
Thanks for sharing your powerful testimony of coming out of the cult and into true faith in Christ. The blood of Jesus still saves!
Can’t wait to hear more about this, I also grew up in this cult. Me and my cousin have been discussing the craziness of it all lately. Glad I found your channel!
Im glad you’re here! If you ever have video suggestions let me know. Praise God that you are no longer in it. 😄 God bless
@@CRWottrich where can I reach you at? Ig/email? I have some stuff I would like to suggest!!!
@@nd3759 on Instagram or at crwottrich@gmail.com would be great!
You should definitely have us on a video one time. We have a lot of insight.
@@andreasalinas2601 hey i assume you’re the cousin! That would be cool
My great aunt in Arkansas was in this, I only ever heard it, so I didn't know how it was spelled. I thought they were "Brennonites" because of my aunt's accent. Today is the first time I've thought of looking it up 😅 she wasn't allowed to speak to us until her husband died. I went to her husband's funeral, it was the weirdest funeral ever.
There is also the "Mennonites".
@@ettaphil9586 yes, but she wasn't Mennonite, I grew up Pentecostal, so when I went to her church it would _almost_ sound Pentecostal, except that they basically worshipped this "Brennon" guy and the beliefs about women were way worse. Women were always the punching bags of any joke, about driving, about emotive, whatever. They were definitely in this cult. Another difference is that Mennonite women wear small hair coverings over their buns, not in this church.
If her husband was a true Branhamism, he is with God. You and your aunt need to repent if you want to join them
I grew up in the Golden Dawn Tabernacle in Tucson, AZ. I believe we were even more cult than the general Message believers. I went in when I was 11 and I escaped when I was 19. I'd love to talk with more people who left. Even now, 25 years later and the process of undoctrinating myself has been a journey.
Hi Rob, hablas español? yo tambien estuve en mi juventud en una iglesia del mensaje, y tambien me gusta hablar con otras personas de esta nuestra experiencia.
It is truly a journey; over 20 years for me. You are so right that some groups were more extreme than others. My Ex-husband before we met went to a group that did not wear the color gray because their pastor has a revelation that gray was a deceitful color since it was a mixture of black and white, another pastor only wanted the women in his church to wear dresses and skirt that had box pleats😁 would be disfellowshipped by both these groups because pleats make me look fat and I love the color gray
What! Omg same. It is worse now. What’s your first name, if you’re comfortable sharing?
@zmiem9556 Hey sorry, didn't see this. My name is Robert Roa
Hi @robr8029.
Sorry to bother you but can we talk?
There's a u tube channel called Leaving the Message w/ jaw dropping information. I still haven't heard your testimony but will be hearing it now.
Absolutely many many cults are around and we must be careful what we are listening and becoming part of it. Great content, new subscriber here.God bless
Don't worry, the message was simply not for you, it is only for the children of God.
Glory Hallelujah 🙏🙏🙌 The message is indeed not for everyone.May God be glorified for allowing his word to come to pass in our generation. What a great falling away it is. Let's trim up our lamps believers for the hour is at hand ...
AMEN !
Only the true bride who was predestinated before the foundations of the world were laid will accept and believe the message of the hour, all the others will come and hear the message and later on fall away because they couldn’t believe it in the first place!
Amen 🙌🙌
Ameeeen from kenya
God’s message of the hour???
Galatians 1 v 8
But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you that which we have preached unto you, let him be accused.
Nowhere did Paul preach about William Branham, or any new message to come, but only the gospel of Jesus Christ.
When you add NEW REVELATION to what Paul preached then you will be accursed.
Also William Branham taught false doctrine of the serpent seed being Cain, and that the Trinity was of the Devil.
I've never heard of this particular cult. Thank you for sharing your story and thank God you got out! It is so important for us to question things against what the scripture says. If it does not align, it is not the truth. Period!
Omg i was also in this cult and i got out at the age of 18 i am from trinidad and tobago but we called him here the the branhamites
Praise God for your escape ❤️ happy that you also got out.
Cristal, I went to church in Trinidad too; what church did you attend? as you know there were several groups
@@CRWottrichYou are fake
I'm so glad your video came up in my feed! You are doing a very good and courageous thing by exposing Branhamism!! (Yes, it is hard to pronounce and had to get in the habit of calling it that after years of calling it the message, isn't it?) I joined it when I was 16 and got out of it when I was 44. It caused so much abuse, misery, fear, and unhappiness in my life. It's so great to be free of it!!! Keep doing what you are doing!
Leslie, I’m so sorry for the abuse and hurt it caused you. But I’m so glad you learned the truth and that you are free of it. Thank you for the encouragement, I really appreciate it.
@@CRWottrich Thank you! I just got done reading your book yesterday and it was so good! You were so brave to do all that you did. I am going to review it on Amazon! I hope you keep putting out content!
Hello. Watching from South Africa. I'm interested in listening to stories like these. God definitely leads us all to the truth and the truth will set you free.
He has indeed set me free by the truth! God bless you!
Also from South Africa, and raised in the "message". It was a horror abuse story growing up. It seems awfully popular here in SA.
This is a very good description of a cult. Particularly isolation, shunning and fake prophecy.
so sister I hope and believe you have THE COMPLETE TRUTH !!! you are now not in a cult. good luck. HOW OLD ARE YOU!!!
Her age is irrelevant
Only God knows the complete truth. You should be old enough to know that!
Wow. I grew up in " The Message" and far from it that i dont believe it is a cult. False and misinterpretation of bible- yes. But i wasnt trapped and forced to believe anything. No membership. Nothing. And when i grew old enough and was doing critical thinking, i just decided to stop going. And it was as simple as that.
I still keep in touch with a few sisters i was friends with. And many times i contemplate my kids going sunday school to learn about Jesus and get christian friends
Why do people come in with their own anecdotes as proof of someone else's experience not being valid? It's great that your particular church and sect was only cult-lite, but that is only true for you.
Am so glad to have come across your channel. I left the group too 5y ago. I thank God for saving me and opening my eyes. I understand every beat of your story. Keep doing more videos
They are a great help to many.
It’s powerful to know that we aren’t alone. I’m glad you’ve enjoyed my videos and I appreciate the support. So glad you are free of the Message/ Branhamism!
Hi! There is a RUclips Channel called Leaving The Message, it's brilliant. I am sure you would find it interesting. God bless you ❤
Thanks for telling your story for everyone who is interested to learn more of this cult there is another channel called “leaving the message” it is quite interesting
Girllll. This! A friend sent me your video. I’m still in a message church and getting all the info I can to help my family. More people need to talk about the message and the damage it causes. Especially with families. Thank you for your story!
Please keep my family in your prayers 🙏🤗
I’m so glad you enjoyed the video. I plan on doing a message believer resource video at some point where I walk through a lot of evidence point by point and give a list of resources. Stay tuned for that.
@@CRWottrich that’s going to be awesome 👏
Its the people being legalistic. Not the Message. For the Message is about Jesus Christ. And Jesus wasn't an abusive individual. He was and is kind, loving, understanding and longsuffering. I'm sorry that people think its the way things are to be. But God is compassionate and willing to give Revelation to those who seek it.
@@gabesanchez2613 the message of William Branham is quite different than the message of the Bible
@@gabesanchez2613 “revelation” is code name for “make the Bible say what I would like it to say”.
I have never felt a single day that I belonged to a cult...Usually people who were born into believing the prophet struggle....I have been to several churches, listened to their sermons and listening to William Branham made more sense to me than all...How do you claim to be a Christian and dress like the world....Everything William Branham taught was scriptural.... People just don't want to forsake their own ways and cleave to what's Holy and true
@richardapakah3497, i challenge everyone who is against the Message of William Branham to receive the genuine Baptism of the Holy Ghost then see if they will still call it a cult!
William Branham, his teachings were not all scriptural. He said hell was not eternal. There’s enough scripture to disprove him with that. His teaching on the serpent seed doctrine was false. That he was Elijah. The prophet from Malachi chapter 4 was false. That he’s the seventh angel of the book of revelation is false. Many teachings that the Branhamites bring out are false doctrine.
Things you said that are not true: Bro Braham's sermons being "on par" with scripture. Of course scripture is higher... The "message believers" I know would never say such a thing. Words that he said being "words from God" Who says message believers think this way? You're so wrong about everyone elevating Bro Branham's words above scripture. Yes, people have done it, but most have not done it. If you or your church did that, yeah, that's wrong, but don't think all "message believers" are like that. He was very much a man with faults like anyone else. Prophecies that haven't yet come to pass are much different than false prophecies. Jesus's own birth was a prophecy that took hundreds of years to come to pass, but it did. False healings? He wasn't a healer nor claimed to be. Healing is up to the individuals faith. What about all the times that he saw the future of them healed, and it did happen exactly as he said? But you throw it all out for being skeptical. Stories not being the same over years of seeing visions, give the guy a break, my own dad can't get his stories right... the vast majority was correct though, and if he didn't get the year right, or the number of people wasn't the same, those things any person could get mixed up. Numbers can get mixed up in our brains over time. See if it isn't so. By the definition of a cult, you just said Jesus's followers were a cult. Shunning, gas lighting, I've never witness this. Bro Branham was very inclusive when it came to fellowshipping with any and all Christian groups. Yes he preached against forming doctrines that can't be adjusted as happens in denominations including the message. But my "message" church is very free. Anyone can go to my church; a guy with dreadlocks got his life back together at my church (including his wife and kids returning). Isolation, information controlling? It's not information controlling, you can scrutinize every word preached, and you can look what others say about him and not like it if you so choose.
His prophecies did come to pass, and there are a few future prophecies obviously about to happen like driverless cars. You are the false prophet/teacher. You have a small following. You're a cult saying Bro Branham's false. Better stone him if he is...You've got to be kidding. A prophecy is very different from a prediction. Saying "Thus saith the Lord" is very different from I predict, and this is just me speaking. But he's blamed for making human prediction when he said not to quote him on it. Where in the tapes does bro Branham make the stature of a perfect man a doctrine, what is it? There are many churches that preach about the stature of a perfect man, but it's not a doctrine I've ever heard... You're right that there can be cults around the message, but not every "message believer" is what you're saying. Most are very dedicated Bible believers that use the tapes to supplement their understanding as well as using many other teachers to do their research. It's not exclusive. The reality that I've experienced from you is much different from yours. I've also met many direct witnesses of Bro Branham. Just because you were taught a different standard to do things, doesn't mean the world is right in what it does. The Bible teaches for a woman not to cut the hair, in many multiple places. I've done my own studies on it, and it has some amazing symbiology in it. Bro Branham was rude as Elijah in the Bible was too, but that don't mean we're to use him as our example. Jesus is our example. But whoa, I'm a message believer saying this. Yes. Your church may have been strict, and rules without wisdom of why they make sense will cause rebellion as I see happened in you. But there's also a difference between looking natural with makeup and looking "different"... You definitely came from a legalistic church. Not every message church is like that. Girls can wear whatever they want to, but if you could see the spirits influencing dress and saw the future of where it'd end up like Bro Branham did, you'd have fiercely preached against it too... What's wrong with a lady wearing more feminine clothing in this transgender world? Every church has dress codes, and rules. Some more or less, but bro Branham was going to an extreme of modesty to fight the future extreme of immodesty that he saw till every year christian dancing in the church has less and less clothing being worn. And I predict within the next 7 years "christians" will go so far as dancing in church near topless (because guys can after all...) Why follow the trends of the world with low cut shirts? Why not go against the trends? Bro Branham's teachings were against the trends, but I value that courage to take a stand for what you believe is right. You don't have to agree with him or me, but I am a witness Bro Branham was a servant of God. You do him a disgrace. When my church got to see the different sites in AZ while Bro Green was documenting them on video, while we were at the site where the whirlwind came down 3 times (indicating three major earthquakes were to hit the western coastline, two have already happened), a halo rainbow appeared around the cliff outcropping know as the profile of Bro Branham for the duration we were there. I could see the myrtle trees on the one side of the road had their tops all cut short from the whirlwind, and the rock face all blown out flat. I have a picture of it that my uncle took. The rainbow was perfectly centered around the profile of Bro Branham during this documentary. My whole church witnessed it. But you say there's nothing to him, that he was a lier, a false prophet. Yet listen to the discernment. He did have a gift. There were witnesses that saw the pillar of fire in the meetings. Say what you want. I find it hard that you'd want to believe it after feeling so good bashing it. But at least, leave it alone.
My advice. Wait 7 years, and if there are no driverless cars in that amount of time, then speak against it. If the Roman Catholic Church has no power in the supreme court of the US then speak against Him for saying that a woman perhaps Rome would rise up in the US. As of Oct 2021 there are 7 out of 9 Supreme court justices that are Catholic. www.law.com/nationallawjournal/2021/10/01/the-marble-palace-blog-before-the-supreme-courts-first-monday-comes-the-sunday-red-mass/?slreturn=20220230203521
If LA never slides into the ocean, then speak against it, but wait 15 years (I half expect it to happen during the 2028 Summer Olympics in LA). Will the prophecy of Russia sending an atomic bomb or something like it on the Vatican come to pass? Wait and see. He said to watch when Russia comes down for the oil. Russia tried right now to do just that. They might be stopped, and try again years later, but just watch it.
People bring up the bridge prophecy saying it was false, yet I listened to old eye witness that saw that number of men fall as bridges scaffolding fell down. In that day many construction workers came to work and were given a chip, and at the day's end they turned in their chip for their wage. There was no record of who worked, and thus you wouldn't have heard who they were in the paper, nor would the construction company have wanted such news to be reported. Construction workers died all the time and went unnoticed. (my sister diligently researched and found this out) ) But who cares, we can't even go back and find out. For you can't prove it didn't happen either... But listen to the tapes of when eye witnesses testify of a prophecy that did happen. But still you can disbelieve it. You can watch Deep calleth to the Deep on RUclips, and still say he faked it all.
But why not, watch and see and not judge, lest ye be judged. Like the Bible says, "Refrain from these men, and let them alone: for if this counsel or this work be of men, it will come to nought: 39But if it be of God, ye cannot overthrow it; lest haply ye be found even to fight against God." Acts 5:38
Hallelujah..
Br brahman was true prophet for this age..he came as god provided way & he stand for father’s apostles doctrines he never compromise even one bible single words like alija..he is not against to any man or women .. he is only against of devel doctrines & that lipstick painted jajibal who lead by devel doctrines… ..he is very humble man just like Poul..god bless you
But William Branham taught false doctrine.
@@homielifesaver2332 He is not false ,there is somany witness, pls do visit @ruclips.net/video/MA528bRQWAk/видео.html
God bless you.
Only believe all things are possible.
Brahman is not in The Bible. There is no proof he is a prophet or chosen by God!! Stop distorting Scripture
@jayanthballa956, God bless you!
Thanks for coming forward to tell it all. We need more people like you. May God almighty bless you.
I was born into the End Time Message Church, and at 27, I decided to carve my own path. Those close to me saw this as a rejection of their beliefs, which led to my exclusion from the community and the loss of friends. This really illustrates a major issue: in this belief system with the message, if you don’t align with their views, you’re considered condemned. You are not allowed to question Brother William Marrion Branham because all he said is all true. ruclips.net/video/6WhN2JSYpdI/видео.html
Such a good idea to share this part of your testimony as a series, It’s a story I don’t get tired hearing! Make sure to put this series of videos in a YT playlist!
It’s already added to a playlist, and is just awaiting my other videos.
fancy seeing you here 😅 i loved your french drain video lol
@@josuemancias6166 Haha yes small world, Charity is my wife!
My ex fiancee and his mother were also caught up in this cult. He tryed to convert me and i knew straight away it was a cult.
why it is cult? pls explain to me? those his message not in the bible?
Hi! Some members of my family converted to branhamism and I am more and more worried about them. Thank you for your time and I look forward to hearing more from you!
God bless you!!!
Hi, thanks for watching and for your comment. I’m sorry about your family; I can empathize as someone who has family still in the cult. I hope that their involvement is temporary and they find the truth. Thankfully there has been a boom in resources about Branhamism lately that expose him for who he was.
@@CRWottrich Thank you for your vidéo about branhamisme. I was branhamist I grew up in this cult but I have left beacuse brahamism is not christianity. Christianity and branhamisme are two different things. WMB brought a false Gospel and He met Avak Hagopian who was a occultist wichcraft. But what says Deuteronomy 18 verse 10 ????
Branhamism teaches false teaching. I am so so so sad for those who are still in Message Churches. They need To know the Truth. Jesus Christ is the way the Truth and Life Jesus and only him.
Hi! There is a RUclips Channel called Leaving The Message. It's brilliant, and it will give you all the facts you need, to help you, and your family. God bless you ❤
Ouch. Young lady sorry for the spiritual abuse bullies that have come out of the woodwork. They seem to idolize WB. Wow.
I appreciate you noticing and commenting. I’m thankful for kind hearted commenters like you 😊
my mum has so many photos of him with the fake light above his head etc ....they worship him not God
@@missredumbrella my mom has them on the walls🤦♀
I was also raised in the message and Im no longer a part of it. Everything from this video was accurate aside from the part about education being discouraged. I'm a woman and even though myself and my family were members of the message, I was still guided to achieve a high education and find a good career. It would be too hard on a family to survive off of only one income. But there was still a choice in the matter. My sister, who's still in the message, chose to be a housewife. Being a housewife and not pursuing a career was never a rule, that was a choice.
May you repent and go back to the message
@@Marie-cy5pk no way. “The message” is simply a satanic cult.
Thank you for sharing! I know at times it can not be easy.
Thank you!
I am a male and everything you said we went through and also we couldn’t wear shorts or short sleeves and no tv.
This is not the message, this what is your family believes.
@@toyoufrombeniunbothored2213 sounds like it to me
YOU ARE A STAR, Keep on discovering yourself, your video was so inspirational for me when i was coming out, i have a video up if youre intrested in my story💜
May God bless you
Seek for the holy spirit
He will guide you in truth
I firmly believe that Bro. Branham was the prophet for the last age.
Please read Malachi 4 verse 5 to 6
How can Malachi prove that Branham was "the prophet"? Where do Christ come into the equation -if at all?
@@annebritraaen2237 praise the lord sister
If you read Malachi chp 4 verse 5 n 6 I.e.
Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the Lord:
And he shall turn the heart of the fathers to the children, and the heart of the children to their fathers, lest I come and smite the earth with a curse.
So sister it is written and read as there will be
Elijah coming when at 2 events
The great day of the Lord
And The dreadful day of the Lord
So I believe that you know and too believe that St. John the Baptist was the forerunner for the first coming of the Lord Jesus Christ right
And then who you believe and know is for the
Second coming of the lord???
Here let me be very clear
I am talking for Gentiles.
Not the Jewish
Coz Jewish too are expecting their prophets too come I.e Moses and Elijah
But what about the Gentile bride of Jesus Christ.
So there has to be a prophet
And that Prophet is Bro Branham.
@@ashishbodke8943 Well, he did. It was John the Baptist. We don't need prophets anymore. We've got the Bible. They didn't.
@@annebritraaen2237I accept that we have bible but they also had scrolls written by their prophets.
I don't know but you are misunderstanding some things
Guess I am not able to convey it.
On RUclips if you wish you can listen and go through the topic "the life story of William Marrion Branham"
And I don't claim myself that I am branhamite.
But I believe that he was man sent from God
And let me tell you something you cannot understand with carnal mind
For that you have to have spiritual mind too
@@ashishbodke8943 YOU are misunderstanding everything, things if you choose to follow a certified liar.
I love the message so true and real
we don’t it’s false and ridiculous
Then maybe you are in the wrong place. Your statement is to gain what? Most people here are damaged from this cult.
Bro branham is a true prophet of God
@@missredumbrella How Damaged? can you explain
Why do you guys come on this video and decide to comment this ? If you believe it then you shouldn't even be here!
Oh my I had a boss who was in this and it’s nuts Her husband worked at the place they make the tapes. Also his grave is across the bridge and it’s weird
You the one that's weird.
I was raised in the Message, we must create a WhatsApp group or something like that to share experiences and our current points of view. I'm agnostic, that's why I left the message back in 2012 my father is a Pastor.
My father is a pastor too, I currently live with family and there's mandatory church every Sunday but I stopped believing in all this around 2017 or dare I say I've always had my doubts and only started exploring elsewhere in 2017. I think I might go atheist in a couple years. My dad is older, 60 something and I don't know how I'd break it to him that I don't subscribe to what he's tried to drill in me all my life. We definitely should find a way to connect to more like us
@@ethereal946 any idea how can we connect?
@@ethereal946Hi! There is a RUclips Channel called Leaving The Message. I can't recommend it highly enough. I know it woyld help you. ❤
Please check out Leaving The Message, a great RUclips Channel. You can connect with like minded people, who understand what your going through. ❤
I never heard of this Branhamism but thanks for sharing this. I will try to check more of this.
Thanks for the comment! It’s not a super well known group.
Search for yourself prayfully.
yup! When someone prophesies yet it does not come to pass, he's a false prophet. Glad you're in the faith!
I grew up in the Branham church, my dad was a pastor. I have always wanted to meet someone else who went through it. I have some pretty crazy stories.
Sorry that you also went through this, but glad you know it for what it is now. Thanks for commenting!
Hi! There is a RUclips Channel called Leaving The Message. It's brilliant, and I am sure it would be a great help to you. God bless you ❤
These are wolves in sheepskin
In Hinduism there was also a miracle man called Sai Baba who had Mystic abilities. He healed people from diseases like cancer and He could read people's minds and knew their past present And future
He had and still has a great following throughout India and the west
But He was also attracted to young boys and had heads of state under his control. He had large sums of gold and money
You see Mystic abilities are not the sign of a person who loves God. People who have Mystic abilities exploit their neighbors instead of loving them.
Never heard of Sai Baba thank you for sharing, it really isn’t all that uncommon
I also grew up with this cult, and my family still follows Brother Brahnams teachings, and they still read his books and listen to tapes of brother Veil still, too.
i had a cousin his a member of william Bramham, he said that he hears voices insulting him but i think its a auditory hallucination, he also says that as if he hears my voice talking to him also but I'm not around, he invited me to the church but I'm not happy in their church, i still love my cousin even so, i don't know what to do with him i can't be so close to him he confess that he reads zodiac which i really don't like, its a spirit of fortune telling a kind of witchcraft its an abomination to the Lord
I will disprove you by the Word
1st corinthians 11: 15( long hair given for covering so a woman is nazirite. Just like samson)
1st Timothy 5:14(woman should MARRY, BEAR CHILDREN)
1st Timothy 2:9(woman should adorn herself in modest apparel. Check the dictionary meaning of “modest apparel”)
Gen 35: 4( they gave Jacob their Strange gods and “EARRINGS”)
For stature of the perfect man read 2peter 5-9. These are characters in which God builds in a believer who is baptized in the Holy Ghost. Now Christ is coming for a perfect bride( believer). We believers should have these qualities while waiting for the rapture.
May God be with us to the end .
Did they put an emphasis on long times of praying in tongues?
You reject him because you want to look like the world.
You are making assumptions about me that are not true instead of actually hearing my story. That is not why I rejected Branham. I rejected him because he’s a false prophet by the standard of the Bible. He had many prophesies that did not come to pass. Signs that were supposed to ‘vindicate him’ did not happen the way he said and he blatantly lied many times (including about his own birthday). I’m believing the Bible over any man.
Am not sure you know about 1Timothy 2:9 and 1Timothy 2:11 read them before talk about long hair and makeup.Relate your words to the Bible. Do not rejoice in sin.
Read 1 Corinthians 11:15 About long hair
@@julietkisakye5817
I’m not sure if you know about (Acts 17:26). This verse clearly states that all men come from one bloodline, and Adam’s bloodline is the only one.
The serpent seed doctrine is a false doctrine taught by a false prophet.
I have watched a lot of things, but when it comes to people claiming other person's religion is a cult on what basis do we look at it. I was lucky enough to read a few theses on what makes certain groups a cult. The question that always arises is how do you judge it. If a christian wrote those papers they need to write it according the bible. I have read SDA, Jehovah, Mormonism, etc. is cults, but on what basis?
I really thought she was going to give scripture, but the things she said that that this PEOPLE follow, you can find it in the bible. Jewelry 1peter 3:3, 1 Corinthinans11:15 long hair is covering. The bible says woman dress yourself modestly 1 Timothy 2:9.
I really thought you were going to give BIBLE and not just opinions. Yes going to say there is links, but I have learned not to take the word of man. Give bible examples please not your opinion, just claiming a set of people is a cult because it differs is what happened in the Dark Ages when people were burned to the stake and with no proof or basis.
The bible says test all spirits through the word of God meaning bible. When Satan tempted Jesus, he said it is written.
The stature of a perfect MAN: Googled it, 2 Peter 1: 1-8 bible gives a good breakdown of it
End of the day if you are a Christian use the bible not opinions.
Amen brother
Right 👍 on brother, preach it.
That’s right friend...that’s true!
Scriptural ignorance and lack of God’s revelation of his Word. If it’s a scriptural issue then it should be challenged by the scriptures and not personal opinions.
@@graysonthomas7037 amen bro
Thank you for sharing. I think this is very important. As a child, I experienced being involved with “the message”. Although I personally do not agree with Branham’s teachings, I remember the majority of followers to be nice people who seemed to be significantly controlled based on the teachings. Unfortunately, this exact cult has been a reason my biological father and I have not had a relationship in many, many years. I am excited to hear more of what you share!
I was in the Message for 28 years and most of the people I knew were very nice. But that doesn't mean the teachings are true or that these very nice people hesitate to enforce the false teachings that destroy families and individfuals.
I was a message believer I thank Lord Jesus Christ for protecting me from that cult..it was a taboo to speak in tongues, people judge like they’re God, women are not considered in many things, Yoh
God will remain God. Even when Jesus was here on earth him self was called a belzabulb. This message is for the believers and not you a non believer. It's good that you are now in your place.
Maybe it's time you read the real message- the one you find in The Bible?
@@annebritraaen2237 how does the message contradict Jesus and the Apostles? I'll wait.
Amen brother
His Real Name Is Yeshua. There Is no J in the Greek and Hebrew!!
God Richly Bless you.... Everything William Branham taught was scriptural if you will only look with your spiritual binoculars... People just don't want to forsake the lust of the world and leave a Holy life..
So glad you left that place,I haven't finished watching this video yet but I have a question,are you still a believer or have you lost "lost" your faith?
I clung onto the fringes of Christianity for a few years before becoming a regenerate believer and actually giving my life to Christ
@CRWottrich awesome praise the Lord!!!The only reason I'm asking is that a lot of people coming out of a cult or charismaniac movement depart from the faith.Find a good Bible believing Baptist church and follow the true Jesus of the Bible.May God keep you near to Him and God bless.
@@mariodebeer yes thank God, I am bless in that regard. It’s the main reason I started making videos and wrote my book. I hope that more people see who God really is after leaving a toxic religious environment like the message.
@@mariodebeer I’ve been very involved with my church for the past 5 years. It’s been a blessing to be in Biblical community.
@CRWottrich May your Love and knowledge of God grow everyday and may He bless your paths in Jesus name.
Wow! I'm really looking forward to hearing more of your story.
Thank you, I’m excited to share. I hope it can help people, and bring awareness.
Brother Branham was the Prophet of Malachi 4:5-6...God proved him time and time again. God always proves His true servants, and Brother Branham portrayed the fruits of a true prophet.
Praise God for leading you out of this deception! You did a great job giving an overview of what a cult is and why Branham was a false prophet. I'm so happy to see you are using scripture as your measuring stick for truth! It's heartbreaking to see some of these testimonials. So many people come out of false movements and their faith has been shipwrecked. Thank you for sharing something so personal with all of us ❤️
May I ask you a question? If Brother Branham wasn't the fulfillment of Malachi 4: 5-6, then where is God's Elijah for today? The Word has nearly been completely revealed. The Bride is about to take Her translation. Remember the door of mercy will close without observation. Who then is the friend of the Bridegroom who introduces the Bride. Be careful!! You can identify many false prophets, but will you be able to distinguish the true one when he comes...or has he come already?!!
@@gabesanchez2613 your question basically says the following:
“I have made up my mind that the Bible says what my false prophet and false teacher has told me it says, and because HE says there must be an Elijah or there must be translation or there must be whatever (even if the Bible doesn’t say any or at least some of these), I am asking you all my questions on the basis of what HE has said…”
Why don’t you take a small break, shake off temporarily your cult imprinted ideas and look at the bigger picture before you try to engage in any meaningful dialogue?
I am sure if you do that you will get proper responses.
@@georgesmyrnis1742 well said and I fully agree
@@missredumbrella I was raised in Catholicism. The Word also expresses that in the day of the Voice of the Seventh Angel. When he shall begin to sound the Mystery of God shall be finished, as He (God) hath declared to His servants the prophets. No worries though. Perhaps the Message is not meant for you. And I'm not saying that you're not saved.
@@gabesanchez2613 The message ? No not for me, full of lies and manipulations . I love my Father without William Branham interfering. This message damages people, I have seen this first hand. The walk with God is not supposed to be in riddles ,,,or fake stories . God Bless you !
23/10/24...Branamism is not a Cult but the teaching of the truthful Word of God . William Branham became one with God when preaching His Word but He were not God. ...but an instrument....used by God.
I was a Muslim and came into the message of William Branham. All you are saying is neither here not there. Every one has a following. You belong somewhere now and believe what you want to believe. The Bible say you are naked, wretched, miserable, blind and sadly don't even know it. You just can't live the life of the word of God and want a way out. My sister God loves you. Come back to the word for your day.
He had some interesting sermons. I don't think I'd classify him as a cult leader. One of the dangers of calling all other small religious groups as cults is that you also become a cult.
As someone who was raised in it and very familiar with his doctrines yes there are some “interesting sermons” but also dangerous and unbiblical teachings as I address in other videos. Definitely enough evidence to classify as a cult.
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Sandra you may want to do some research your self. WMB also stated he had 1000's of letters from doctors and notary's of so called healings. Yet voice of god ministries cannot produce a single letter! why? you may want to research his sermons and inconsistencies, I will even give you the sermons so you can read them yourself: You wonder why people doubt William Branham’s testimony. Let me give you some examples: In his description of his first revival in a tent near where the Branham Tabernacle is located today, in his sermon 64-0405 WMB states a revival of 3000 people, 17 baptisms and that it occurred on the Ohio River. He also states a mystic light appear and he received his calling form God. He also stated that this event was carried on all newspapers including the AP. In the Book by Gordon Lindsey “A man sent from God” stated 130 were baptized that day, not 17. In a later sermon 50-0820E it was 100s baptized and 1000s standing next to the river. Another sermon he says 55-0117 200 to 300 were baptized and 100s standing next to the river. In 1955 55-0227E he states 500 baptized and 7-8 thousand on the river side. And in 64-0412 he stated 1000s baptized and 10 thousand were standing on the river. Archives from newspapers show us only one local newspaper had an article and it state 14 converted.
Here is another example: In WMB 1946 commission to heal the sick and angel appears to him and says no disease can stand before you if you can get the people to believe you. 47-1102. He would have a healing ministry, vibrations in his hand and he would know a person’s heart. Problems are as follows: When did his calling happen: 47-1102 he says two years ago, 1945. 54-0809E he says 5-7-46. In 54-0718A he gives a date of 5-7-47. He gives at least three dates, 45,46 and 47.
Then where did this call happen: 47-1102 says the angel appeared to him in his home. He also stated that he thought it was a light from a car. In his sermon 53-0509 he stated that he was in a cave when the angel appeared and then in his sermon 53-0117 he stated that it was a log cabin. WMB goes on to say in his sermon in 50-0821 it was not a car because his cabin was too far from the road.
Then what was he praying: in his sermon 55-0117 it was fear and repentance. In his sermon 51-0720 he was not in fear but praising God and then in his sermon 47-1102 he was not praying but reading his Bible.
Two different events, but each time he tells about the story his story changes. He would never be allowed to testify in a court of law much less be an end time prophet. All one has to do is compare his sermons and you will see he is inconsistent, is someone is inconsistent in their life’s events then this is an indication of a person lying about his lift. Two events with this kind of impact, one would remember all the details and get it right every time. No my message believer, WMB is not the man he claims. There are many more examples if you care to just examine his words. Recommend you go to CAFR videos or look up these sermons on VOG.
Here are some places you may want to research yourself on Google: Searching for Vindication, Believe the Sign, www.william-branham.org and some books that may enlighten you if you are open for the real truth: Preacher behind the white hoods; Stone Mountain to Dallas; William Branham; 20th century Charlatan, investigating William Branham: the unfolding story of plagiarisms and Errors. I suspect you have drank the Kool aid left over from Jim Jones and he and WMB were friends and co leaders.
Thanks for posting this video. Some IFB/KJO Churches have similar rules we use to attend. We were looking to attend a church call "Love Divine Fellowship" only to fine they were in fellowship with a church call "Tucson Tabernacle" only to read someone's google comments: "This is a Christian Church, but influenced by the teachings of William Branham, with apostolic church overtones." What a disappointment! We attend a SBC church but will be withdrawing our membership due to "wokeism" not "legalism" if it doesn't close down first.
I’m familiar with Love Divine. I would say it’s a “softer” version of the same message cult I’m in. Good to hear you did your research :)
@@zmartieq So you still attend and do you like it?
@@michaelgriswold1809 I don’t attend Love Divine. I attend another “message” church. But no, I do not like it. After one learns about the Bible, one cannot like the message of Branham.
@@zmartieq We ran into a similar problem with the IFB church with their strictness or legalism theology which comes from dependence on moral law rather than on personal religious faith. "Stress obedience apart from faith and you produce legalism"
I grew up in a cult too, different one.
What cult were you apart of?
@@CRWottrich cfm, they go by the names of the door, victory chapel, one80 and the potter's house.
@@fromjayne4726 What happened in that cult? Did they have a leader they follow? Are you still in it?
I grew up in this cult aswell, my granfparents pulled us in and it was hell, me and my older brother tried to escape every sunday hoping we wouldnt have to go to their meeting, i love my grands dearly but id never go back there m, ever in my life
My family are message believers, I'm 16 years old and have no control over my life and when I say I dont want to take part in it they restrict me from my life. I am forced to wear skirts and have long hair, I cant wear makeup or do things that normal teenage girls do, I feel trapped, confused and I dont know how to get out.
Im so sorry for your situation Madison! I will be praying for you and your family this morning. I relate to that more than you know - we are about to get into it with the next few parts of my story, but I also had a difficult time as a teenager in my parents house. It may seem like a long time until you can be on your own, but I would spend time building a plan for how you can start to support yourself and move out. I moved out of my parents house when I was 19. More important than all of that though, I would advise you to ask God for help - if your parents are isolating you, I know it can be incredibly lonely and difficult. You are not alone.
@@CRWottrich Thank you so much. Is there anyway I could stay in contact with you? Do you have social media?
I completely relate. I ran away in the end. That sadly ended up in a huge mess. This whole thing really messes with your mind. Especially when you have to cut off parents as limited support to being in the big bad world. I wish you well.
@@madisongill178 hey Madison, my Instagram is @thisartistslife
Pray :)
People all over the world are leaving The message, adventist, Mennonites, Catholic etc the question should be, are they going back to Christ to have a personal relationship with Him? The Word of God is the final authority in a believer's life. That's what matters. There are so many people talking about false prophets but very few of them can point out true believers that are walking in the prophetic gift. Watch out for deception of the age!
Who is she trying to impress when broadcasting to the RUclips world that she left a religion? I personally don't need to hear her bragging about getting her ears pierced and cutting her hair. She seems self-centered. It's not really called "Branhamism", though. It's a Bible-based belief, with even quite a few Bible verses that described how a prophet would be here. If it wasn't William Marion Branham, does she think she can tell us who it was, then? We are, in fact, near a third world war, and the Bible speaks of calamities and bad things that would indicate thus to be near the ending of the world, so if she's reading this lengthy comment, I hope she can tell me who that prophet is, since she's so intellectual and full of what she thinks is truer knowledge than what she was taught before.
Amen
Branhams teachings are not Bible based. They are false teachings to stray people away from Jesus similar to Mormons
William Brenham was a very gifted man of God, healing evangelist. I understand he had a very profound prophetic gifting. However I also understand his theology and teachings where not sound in later years before his passing. The Bible is always our plum line to test and measure teaching and prophecy
Did you listen to the message yourself or do you just follow these make believers....
11:25 At that time Jesus answered and said, I thank thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent, and hast revealed them unto babes.11:26 Even so, Father: for so it seemed good in thy sight. Matthew 11:25
@@eagleeyes6642 ? Make believers?
@@ryanehlis426 Yes just like in the days of the Lord Jesus in His Son of Man ministry....
6:64 But there are some of you that believe not. For Jesus knew from the beginning who they were that believed not, and who should betray him.6:65 And he said, Therefore said I unto you, that no man can come unto me, except it were given unto him of my Father.6:66 From that time many of his disciples went back, and walked no more with him. John (666)👈🤔
@@eagleeyes6642 ok, the fact that there is a cult idolizing Brenham today don’t make his ministry and teaching entirely wrong or false.
@@ryanehlis426 Bro Branham ministry is either the fulfillment of the Elijah of Malachi 4...Luke 17:30...Rev 3...Revelation 10:7 etc...or he was a delusional man....
It all boils down to your choice....
The church people in Jesus's day said for Good works we stone the not but because Thou makes Thyself the Spoken Word of God made manifest.
10:32 Jesus answered them, Many good works have I shewed you from my Father; for which of those works do ye stone me?
10:33 The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God. John 10
“Now, that make-believer is considered the hypocrite. Now, let's take a makebeliever. It was Judas. He was the make-believer. And the make-believer hangs on and on,
trying to find some way that they can get something on it. They stick around long enough
just to find out if they can't find a little fault, then go out and expose it somewhere. "We
want to find what kind of a gimmick, what rabbit foot you got that rubs behind your ears.
What is the gimmick?" so they can impersonate It or something. That's make-believers.
That's Judatarian.” (Go awake Jesus: 63-1130E)
@tinashemukungwa1726, Amen to that!
My last name is Branham, thats how I found out about branhamism but im not a follower.
Christ is king 👑 and his word is the word i follow to the best of my ability.
and if it was a cult how do u classify the prophecies he said that came to pass
Hello, I plan to do a video on this after the series, when I was in The Message I was taught I could not doubt for a moment or I was sinning, so I did not question he had many prophesies that came to pass. When I finally was doing research, I saw the hard reality. I was hard pressed to find any real prophesies that were not super vague that came to pass. What I did find however, was a trail of unfulfilled prophesies that were justified away or covered up, or prophesies so vague they could perhaps still happen. He also would change they way he shared the prophesy over time. here is a resource for you: en.believethesign.com/index.php?title=The_Prophecies_of_William_Branham
Shalom bayo @true dear the message of the hour is mystery revealed only to the bride of Jesus, not to everyone
My love for William Branham ❤is immeasurable
Seventh age prophet
I thank God for him.
This lady has no idea who Branham was..
I Pity her.
@@raelnzulu143 My love for GOD ❤is immeasurable.....WB was a false man with a lot of dark secrets ..... research his TAPE BOYS!
@@missredumbrella that's your opinion and it isn't right, I researched 1st b4 I concluded
He is a true Prophet of God
Am a witness of a true message via William Martin Branham .
We are here to stay and forever will be @the message ❤♥💜💙
Endless
Satan will perform false signs and wonders as well...read the scripture...it only takes ONE false prophecy to make someone a false prophet! God is 100%accurate at all times...look at all these bafoons who said trump would win...then they still held on to their lies and said oh you just gotta wait...it will happen. False prophets everywhere!!!
My mother is in this cult, i hardly visit because i cant wear pants, in 2022
It is an interesting topic. I've never heard of 'Branhamism' before. I'm looking forward to hearing more. Thank God for the gift of Salvation. New subscriber ✅
Thanks for watching! Yes, Branhamism is a more obscure group. I’m glad you learned something from my video.
Why don't you listen to Branham's sermons yourself, hear it from the horse's mouth as it were
@@whseed Ain't got time bro. I spend more time listening to Jesus messages.
@@whseed
As soon as your prophet contradicted the Bible was when I knew he was wrong.
While I don’t live this message a lot of this is not true. Most of my family was all brought up in the message. I know many girls in the message that wear sleeveless shirts and wear their tops lower than 2 fingers. I know many religions that teach you to dress moral as well and find nothing wrong with that As far as tattoos go, the Bible does mention about desecrating your body.
If I leave the message of the day! I keep quiet and live a sinful life, I criticize it not and be the servant of the devil.... But I understand it's hard to take a pit bull like this Message, people want to live in sin and claim to be a Christian but a pit bull like this one its difficult.
Amen brother
Yes brother
Imagine calling a person a dog!? So i’m guessing God approves you insulting people ? Being a hypocrite by telling her to not criticise yet you’re here calling her names? Let me show your comment to your pastor in fact.
@@abigail71999 no one was called a dog! "ITS HARD TO TAKE A PITBULL LIKE THIS MESSAGE" - not everyone loves a pitbull because it's rugged, it's a figure of speech meaning it's hard to take a hard message like this.
Go show your pastor that's not a problem at all, I reverse not what I've said
@@abigail71999 I'm not here to teach you English, if you missed it in class I'm sorry but if possible I'll do anything to help you understand PUNCTUATIONS
The last part mentioned is about tattoos, piercing, make up and modest apparel. How is that not biblical ? We better pray for revelation before taking what makes sense to our minds.
I didn't know my whole family was a cult...
I didn’t know what this comment meant when I initially read it…. Just reviewing my comments today and realized your name 😂😅 Yes the cult being named “Branhamism” is unfortunate for you. Thankfully it also goes by “the message” 😬
Are you related to William Branham? Billy Paul Branham, Joseph Branham?
Hi charity good morning ; you are commenting on Brother Branham as your foundation for your video , taking Bible Scriptures, so Did he as The Lord Jesus being his foundation.,here is for you ,read it ,take Genesis 3:13-15 serpent seed ! and the first book of Corinthians chapter 11. cutting of hair check it out! and 2nd Kings 9:30-37for the lesson of painted face [Jezebel! } You want to look different go ahead that is our privilege given by God All Mighty is also known as choosing ,, Mother Eve did that too ,,,, if some one in this world tell you that drinking ,smoking paint your face is not good for you is because they have love for you ,you want to check it out on your own is ok, and I am glad you are taking the Bible try to read the scripture that you are referring to in your videos it will be very good for you and your viewers, sincerely Aurora