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Just gonna leave this here Sorry if I messed up the spelling or forgot an artist. Tier 1 Alcest Summoning Deafheaven Wolves in the Throne Room Harakiri for The Sky Tier 2 (Any band from Norway) Mgła Watain Dissection Marduk Dark Funeral Sargeist Horna Tier 3 Blasphemy Revenge Beherit Damaar Naked Whipper Tier 4 Blut Aus Nord Deathspell Omega Diapsiquir Jute Gyte Mamaleek Tier 5 any in the Les Legions Noire Mutiilation Vlad Tepes Obskiritatem Black Cilice Sortilegia Moonblood Xasthur Leviathan Tier 6 (The Nerdy Shit) Abruptum Sutekh Hexen Semen drenched slave of the Devil Emit check out Enbilulugugal too
I think the band in the thumbnail is Weakling in case someone was interested(its wolves in the Throne Room, idk why I thought it why I confused it for the weakling logo)
@@dethronedemperor I worked with Dustin from enbilulugugal before he died last year for my latest release. iamdeadsmiles58.bandcamp.com/track/lonely-goat-corpse-ft-enbilulugugal
Still waiting for "Man hitting a guitar into a trash can while screaming Satan at the top of his lungs" metal, entirely recorded on a 1995 phone answering machine.
I'm from Lebanon and I was very pleasantly surprised to see Damaar on here, you were spot on about how overly religious this country is. Great vid btw, earned my sub
@@rufussamsquanch_6547 Especially since we have bands like Abigor and Deathspell omega as well as blut aus nord etc being widely talked about compared to necroholocaust for instance.
It's very individually imo. For me bands like Bölzer, Pseudogod, Archgoat, Teitanblood, Grave Miasma, Adversarial, Vassafor are far more accessible than any single Deathspell Omega post Infernal Battles song..
@@artyomkurakin3393 agreed, I think these are way more head bang worthy than Diapsiquir or Mamaleek. Yeah, I get that since Bestial is more raw it’d be next to the “Necro” tier but I wouldn’t say it’s less accessible than the Oddball tier
What about depressive black metal or “DSBM?” Silencer, Austere, Exiled From Light. You mentioned Xasthur and Leviathan but yeah. Haha sorry I don’t mean to sound like an elitist but that is definitely a subgenre of black metal that has a fairly large listener base.
@@Nightgaunt616 I'm checking them out now. They're definitely "out there" but in a good way. I wouldn't consider them "Darkweb" since they lack that "creep out" factor that will ruin your high (note to self: NEVER listen to Emit while blazed).
I got dragged into the genre by Al-Namrood. I think their very unique approach to the genre makes them a really good starting point. Both through the folk elements like the utilization of the arabian scale and traditional arabic instruments as well as through the more accessible style of their current vocalist Humbaba (since "Heen Yadhar Al Ghasq"). Also I never met anybody - metalhead or not - who wasn't interested in taking a listen to their music after learning that their from Saudi-Arabia and could literally be executed for their music.
@junesuprise who you never met and wtf are you talking about 😂 why would someone who you don't know be interested about you not being interested in something?
i was refering "Also I never met anybody - metalhead or not - who wasn't interested in taking a listen to their music after learning that their from Saudi-Arabia and could literally be executed for their music."@@punkjay4681
Just found your channel. Been looking for a rather underground knowledge type channel such as yours for awhile now and you totally fit the bill for me. Without going into too much more high praise, I appreciate the way you lay out your explanations. Most places come off very linear like they're reading straight from a script but I can tell no scripts probably ever needed for you because the time and knowledge is that deep. Ty man! Currently going through your catalog as well as anticipating new vids!
Great point about Damaar- I love that "legitimate"/lived experience coming through music. Makes such an impact, even when the chops aren't apex. Throwing it out there about Revenge- living/growing up in the same area as them, I very much get the same feeling about Revenge. I don't know them personally or anything, and perhaps I'm projecting, but I feel like their music bleeds the discontent of Alberta very specifically
Lebanon isn't as bad religiously as he describes it tho lmao. They wouldn't have been killed for their music (mostly because it was underground) but still. The drummer went to australia and converted back to islam is the version I heard. And I think the vocalist was in a thrash band called nightchains which I recommend you check out
@@muchwizardrainbowgandalfwi675 well I said that cause ive heard so many people say they got "death threats" from their music thus which is why they fled to Australia.
@@huggiedistance u should prolly listen to City Morgue/Zillakami, maybe sum scarlxrd. It really all depends on what ur lookin for, if ur lookin for metal or at least harder soundin rap then I’d say those 2. I like a lot of underground street rap but idk if you’d like it cuz obviously we on a black metal video
@@yungwxiner4226 hell yeah man, I love city mourge and scarlxrd, I'm actually mostly into thrash metal and the band anthrax had a huge relation to early gangsta rap. Public Enemy and NWA are some of my favorite rap groups.
Another one that could be on tier 6 is stallagh. It's a project formed by some guys who work at an asylum and they convinced the people in charge to let them record the patients screaming as a form of therapy. You can kind of hear some riffs and drums in the background at points, but it's mostly just screaming. It's just really hard to listen to.
Bro I recently found your channel and Im in love. I turned my ad blocker off for you lol. Its everything Ive ever wanted in a metal channel. The format, the tidbits of backstory with some bands (but not so much that it detracts from the music), etc...are all fantastic. Please dont detract too much from the whole "sitting in a chair infront of records spitting knowledge" format. One suggestion is you could add the bands you mention in your description. Other than that, keep on keeping on. Ill plug your channel as much as I can on the various metal subreddits.
Emit's music isn't all noisy. They (he?) has also released some Dark Ambient stuff like Spectre Music Of An Antiquary (which is actually quite relaxing to listen to, if you can believe it). Also, one of the guys who played in Emit has got a Roman Catholic Black Metal band called Reverorum Ib Malacht, which is every bit as weird and odd, though much less noisy. I must admit though, it's weird (but welcoming) to see people outside the UK know about Emit. Tier 6 could basically be called the Todestrieb Records roster, as we have a fair few of these weird, oddball noisy Black Metal bands, such as T.O.M.B., Extinction, Basilisk, and The Tyrant of Manchester (yes that is the band name)
I used to literally call them “Magla”. Until I got to know a polish friend who told me it’s “Mgła”. Literally, no other syllable than the A, and the L is pronounced weirdly.
Since you talked about Damaar n religion: there's this anti-islamic black metal band called Janaza. It's a musical project by an Iraqi woman (who, in fact lives in Iraq, how brave). Pretty good stuff.
Yes, Alcest are such a great place to start for most. I've played their records for a few friends and everyone found them beautiful, even if they didn't like metal in general.
One I didn’t mention that’s similar to Alcest but easily my favorite for the style would be “Lantlos” Their album “Neon” is perfection and that balances out shoegaze and black metal to a near perfect even degree.
Alcest is just plain calming for a lot of songs I mean try and do a full length cover of "sur le ocean couler de fer" without accidentally carrying yourself into an almost hypnotic sleep. It's perfect
I absolutely adore Jute Gyte! His recent records Oviri and Mitrealität in particular are some of the most impressively composed and uncompromising extreme guitar music out there with some really fascinating, alien riffing and incredibly imaginative production. Also, all respect for bringing up Diapsiquir. Definitely one of the oddest black metal acts I've listened to, peculiarly charming in this super off-kilter way. The way that you described them was absolutely on point. Incidentally, funny thing when you compared Sutekh Hexen to Prurient: I'm not sure if you're aware of this or not, but Dominick Fernow is in several black metal projects, including Departure Chandelier and Ash Pool (whose song "Holocaust Temple" has some incredible melodic vocal work). Guy seriously gets around.
I've had that Damaar record since Hell Headbangers got copies back in 2007, it's one of the jewels in my collection. Good video Wyatt, interesting premise, and a good execution.
Cool. I love these iceberg videos. Very well done and deep explained. My favorite subgenre of metal is black metal and its a deep dark abyss to get into.
I really enjoyed this video. One thing that surprised me was that the avant-garde / dissonant stuff was below the "war metal" tier. I'd say that Beherit is much less accessible than Deathspell Omega, at least to my ears. Great video though!
I'm really glad you gave Jute Gyte a mention; he is one artist I never hear anyone speak or know of. I actually listen to all of his styles he makes, sometimes his chaotic black metal, sometimes his ambient glitch stuff really hits the spot if I crave something less stimulating. Have you ever heard of the band Wold? I feel like they could have had a mention under your Dark Web Black Metal tier. They are basically harsh noise with Donald Duck or Eric Cartman on vocals. It's some nasty, scathing shit. But it's oddly relaxing to listen to? Also, perhaps Gnaw Their Tongues could have been another band for this tier as well? More of that experimental, nasty dark black metal stuff. Nice video though, I enjoyed it. P.S. You may have gotten me interested in Sutekh Hexen. Also, I actually love Deafheaven, and I used to listen to Alcest.
LLN and the associated acts is what really drew me into black metal as a teen. Sure I had listened to some Gorgoroth, some Carpathian Forest, and even some Darkthrone, but nothing compared to the LLN. I was too young to really appreciate all of it, but the "gems" I found kept me coming back time and time again. I only like them more as I grow older too. They really provide some next level darkness. Top tier BM to this day.
Once I listened a track from WITTR with my mom and she dig it. She said the music was awesome, but didn't get the shouting vocals. So, yes, Wolves is pretty much Tier 1
Sounds like you're describing Saudi Arabia rather than Lebanon. Lebanon is one of the more liberal countries in the Middle East. Although, you can't get too liberal in the Middle East-that's true
I would put those later havohej albums in the tier 6 list section or somewhere up there. Cool video, i wasn't expecting someone to do a good black metal iceberg list!
If you want noise with a black metal vibe listen to Hurqalya by Sacrificial Totem. This release in particular was dubbed "blackest ambient metal" and while I don't think there's enough black metal influence in it to be placed in this list the discussion of noise at the end made me think of it.
I feel honored to have been able to give this the 666th like haha. Also for the oddball tier I think I'd personally add Todestoss, I don't feel like they get mentioned enough. They're totally nuts and fascinating. For the raw tier I think I'd add Nihill and Novae Militiae. I don't know, maybe they're not essential but they're some of the best in my eyes Great video! Lots of bands I'm excited to check out after watching this
@@ConvincingPeople do not worry we shall hunt you down, it has been foretold, you will not poison thy gene pool. We are ancient we have always watched you.
Satanhartalt is a group that you could consider to be Tier 6 black metal. Being a black noise, it is very eerie and dark, super raw, I love it. It's like exploring a Medieval hell (the art on their tapes gives that vibe).
"stuff that really pushes the sanity level" Me guessing ahead: Ooh, ooh, Depressive Suicidal Black metal, definitely! Also Me: Oh no...what if it goes deeper??
really dig this video. don't know shit abt black metal but it's cool seeing it getting broken down into six "types" that actually delves into the subject further than "guy screams in his car for 40 minutes and makes a 4 hour long black metal project with it" my only gripe with this is that it feels like a band recommendation video and not really an iceberg. it'd take a small group of seasoned fans to pull together a berg covering not only notable bands, but also historical events like controversies, tropes like shithouse quality black metal, injokes and practices and common beliefs in the scene, all sorts of shit, and then ranking all that shit by obscurity. it would be super sick seeing something like that, but its understandably a shitload of work
Great vid! Learned a lot of new things about my favorite metal sub genre. Out of curiosity, where on the Iceberg would you put the more accessible avant-garde bands like Krallice and Spectral Lore?
Been more of a Death Metal fan traditionally, but the range of sounds that you can get within black metal is so much more creatively freeing, thanks for the recommendations! They are great! 1914 is my favorite “bestial” or “war” metal band because they honor the horrors of war and slow down the tempo because it’s not just about the action, but the consequences of such horror.
Yea that's not war metal . 1914 is blackend death doom. 1914 is way better than any war metal crap noise. War metal is white noise and is recorded live .
I can't see anyone talking about Mamaleek. I feel you 100% how you seem mesmerized trying to give off an impression of what they music is; it's the most creative thing i have heard in my music life. It is so rich, so deep, the way their wright their songs is something i have never came accross in any genre. it's clearly a demonstration of music as an art.
Great list. I got to know some interesting new bands, especially in the lower 2 tiers. Here are some of my additions: Tier 1: Panopticon, None, Agalloch Tier 2: Judas Iscariot (American so doesn't fall under the anything-from-Norway category) Tier 2.5 (Crust punk): Drakthrone (later), Wolfbrigade, All Pigs Must Die, Oathbreaker, Black Breath Tier 4: Imperial Triumphant, Krallice, Oranssi Pazuzu, Liturgy, Thy Catafalque (they may also go in Tier 1), Sigh Tier 6: Stalaggh (if you want to still call that black metal or, you know... music)
I seem to be a strange case, as I managed to end up on both ends of the black metal ice berg without really crossing into the middle. Very shortly after being shown Darkthrone, Mayhem, Burzum, Bathory, etc, I somehow found Dead Before Death by Emit. Can confirm, basically noise. Interesting noise, gut wrenching noise, but noise.
You could probably expand it to more tiers. I think some of the "harsher" atmospheric bands like Drudkh and some of the more symphonic or folkish bands like Nokturnal Mortum and Moonsorrow could fit in a tier between 1 and 2. Also there's room for another tier between 2 and 3 for bands like Peste Noire, Goatmoon, and Warwulf that still sort of "carry on the spirit" of black metal but at the same time are trying to keep it more obscure and inaccessible. And then there's the question of whether or not NSBM gets its own tier for the sheer inaccessibility of its themes and messages.
@@crushed_infamy Wrong. But they are pretty much as close to it as you can get without being full blown NSBM. You want actual NSBM? Check out Wolfnacht and Ar*an Blood.
@Ryan Williams lol looks like your comment was shadow-banned by youtube for saying a verboten word. I can see it in my notifications because you replied to me but I don't think anyone else can. And I can't help it if more "problematic" bands make better black metal than the politically correct ones. Maybe you should make your own RABM band and show all us "ebil nahtzees" how it's done.
@@matthewcarson3736 Very few good NSBM and borderline NSBM bands imo, but gotta give props where props is due. Peste Noire's early albums rule. Peste Noire - Split - Peste Noire on the other hand though... lol
I remember how claustrophobic Rites Through the Twillight of Hell felt when I was still discovering BM (long ago). This demo is still something extremely fascinating to me, even though I must be one of the only person to like this demo given how they could barely play their instruments at the time lol. But the production and smothering of the sound was so perfect in creating the atmosphere...
Never in my life have I enjoyed black metal but I’m excited to give some of these bands a try! I’ve heard random inaudible black metal in the past and just wrote it off, but ima try to do this the right way this time🤘
I'd say tier 1 in my favorite tier, lots of nostalgic love for tier 2, tier 3 is just... meh closest thing I like in that category MIGHT be Inquisition but that may be more tier 2, tier 4 has some great stuff there, tier 5 also great, tier 6 is legitimately alien to me, as much as I like challenging music, I like music, not the electrical interpretation of schizophrenia, which sounds cooler than the music actually sounds like. Great vid! I am looking forward to checking these out. Shout out to these underrated bands: Alter of Plagues 1914 Ash Borer Crafteon Bufhimat Elegiac Ellende Firelink NONE Nordicwinter Pan- Amerikan Native Front Panopticon SAOR AEvangilist Cairn YMIR SPIRIT PROCESSION Non Opus Del
Interesting take on describing Black Metal. My introduction albums were, De Mysteriis Dom Sathanas, In The Nightside Eclipse and Opus iv back in the mid 90s. Pretty well upon release. Still a few of my favorite albums. Like Summoning a lot. Earlier Summoning was not so atmospheric. Prior to De Mysteriis Dom Sathanas, almost all Black Metal was recorded in "tin can" style you mentioned. Varg had a video on RUclips where he explains this. Don't know if it is still up considering they took down his videos. He basically says the "tin can" recordings were anti pop music. Clean was seen as mainstream. Abruptum for the most part is definately noise. But they do have a few good songs. They are actually capable of playing their instruments.
For me it was the opposite about the raw black metal. I always thought that this genre should sound like this and therefore, it became my favourite. I love the haunting atmosphere that raw black metal produces.
Yeah, I am under the impression that it is the essence of black metal, and the other genres are more about experimentation or finding other ways to express this, giving rise to extremely different things. That being said, I've been into BM for so long now that I totally understand that newer fans may be put off by how barebones this stuff can be. Also, production quality has improved massively since then and as such it's very understandable that people may have a harder time than before to get back into this. (Also, I'm not a snob: it's a good thing production quality went up as it allows some stuff that wasn't really possible before. Good production quality can help enhancing brutality or specific feelings in ways that weren't possible before, overall helping to expand what black metal can be).
Recommended updates: Level 1: Summoning: Just the first record "Lugburz" which is actually BM, Would add Venom and Bathory to a certain extend too Level 2: Unanimated, Ancient Rites, Keep of Kalessin, Evol, Anaal Nathrakh, Necrophobic, Decameron, Satanized, Impaled Nazarene or more contemporarely: Sarastus: Enter the necropolis Level 3: Belphegor, Mor Dagor, Forgotten Woods, Pest (both from SWE and from NOR), Level 4: Abigor (especially "Fractal Possession"), Dodheimsgard, Mysticum (the first album) Level 5: Nargaroth, Judas Iscariot, Katharsis (Germany), Graveland, Satanic Warmaster, Urgehal, Level 7: There are plenty of those who just release cassettes or limited EP - Sombre Records from Germany were famous for releasing such bands Level 8: Tape traded shit like the "Chainsaw gutsfuck" demo from Mayhem on tape.
Not a fan of the music but I observe it as a form of entertainment. Black metal had its heyday in the '90's and early 2000's. But there are so many artists now and they're all so similarly wired (to my ears) it's hard to really tell one from the other. IMO extreme music is heading in the direction of non-genre specific metal. Bands like Meshuggah are doing things like taking thrash music and adding truly extreme blendings of percussion and guitars with unique vocals. Or Portal took death metal to an atmospheric place, a la norwegian black metal. Their music is truly chaos, something most bands require horrific visuals to attain. Again, not something I can sit there and listen to but fun to observe how this form of art is evolving from the sidelines.
I always introduce people to black metal with Abigor or Horna. Or I just put on Puritanical Euphoric Misanthropia for something more on the melodic side but still heavy. I know a lot of people don’t consider Dimmu Borgir as “black metal”, but it’s more to slowly lead them into what you’d consider more traditional or “true” black metal due to the obvious influence. A lot of people lose interest immediately if you just throw on something with tons of blast beats and tremolo picking lol It’s similar to trying to show people death metal for the first time. Usually I have to look through my library for music with more of a groove and rhythm. A lot of times in your face growls, aggressive riffs and drums with a ton going on pushes them away never to return lmao It’s always a challenge when a non metal head asks me “what kind of music do you listen to?”. If they dont already know the music or terminology, I have to resort to just playing the music for them. I have to think “well...where did I start out? What’s the lightest aggressive music that I have?” Haha if I just put on my heaviest stuff then they make that cringe face and try to be polite and say something like “well....it’s definitely...interesting. I cant see why you like it!....”. Meanwhile I’m sitting there like “we both know you’re lying, you want this experience to end 45 seconds ago and your ears are bleeding.” Lol Black Metal is for sure an acquired taste. It’s basically the craft beer of music. Most people probably start out with like bud light or corona before they’re drinking indie craft double IPA’s. You gotta go slow to appreciate it then go back and be like “huh, maybe the stuff I was consuming before was actually watered down garbage.” I know that may be a dumb analogy, but if you got into craft beers and stuff after drinking “normal” beer, you’ll get what I’m saying in terms of quality and flavor. At first it’s like “this is alright I guess.” But you appreciate it later once your pallet gets accustomed and you can really taste all the different flavors/notes. That sounds kind of snobby probably, but it’s the best thing I can think of.
Yo. Been digging Blasphemy for a while. Thanks for the heads up with Naked Whipper. Shit is brutal! This is a really good list. I’m happy you spoke about deathspell without the, you know, um, stuff that has nothing to do with the music. Props for that. Question: where on the list would Portal and Wold be on?
Although he already featured Portal in his death metal iceberg video, he could also put Portal in the oddball tier. So, in a sense, Portal is oddball blackened death. I could put Wold in the deep web tier. I could feature some other related bands to Wold such as Gnaw Their Tongues, Enbilulugugal, Ahulabrum, Mnima, Utarm, and a few others. Some very authentic underground bands such as Tritonchasm, Wheel of Sickies, Mhnunrrn, and Baxbakwalanuxsiwae.
Wyatt, if you would include every black metal band out there, this video would be 6 hours long. Great video nonetheless. 👍 Im definately all about tier 2, 3. 4 not at all. 5 im into again. Havent touched much on tier 6 yet.
I would merge the first two tiers because people getting into it out of curiossity usually start in either the hipster bands or the Trve Kvlt bands, then move onto either dsbm with Silencer or Xasthur, prog bm like Enslaved or Blut aus Nord, dystopian/based/raw bm like Peste Noire or Satanic Warmaster, occult/satanic^2 bm like Dark Funeral or Watain, symphonic bm like Dimmu Borgir or Ceremonial Castings or ambient/ Dungeon Synth bm like Summoning or Lustre.
That's Ultra metal (among with Reencarnación, Blasfemia, maybe Nekromantie, Astaroth, Sacrilegio) a proto death/black metal that certainly is in the tier of roots of black metal, but not black metal per se. Same with Sarcofago or Vulcano from Brasil or Bloody Cross from Chile (which is far much black metal than the mentioned previous bands)
@@paulomirandaarias9544 Ultra Metal was a movement comprised of different subgenres, I wouldn't call Danger, Mierda, or Ekhymosis' demo proto-black. All those bands you mentioned fall under black/thrash while being proto-black.
Very cool video, man! I guess I spend most of my black metal listening in tier 1,3,4,5. Tier 2 bores me to death and I'm not kvlt enough to have even heard of any bands that would be in tier 6. Maybe Gnaw Their Tongues? IDK if I'd put WITTR in the "pretty black metal" tier. Maybe later albums, but earlier ones were still fairly inaccessible. Long songs, harsher vocals, more traditional black metal riffing on an album like two hunters. I'd put Agalloch and most of that "folk black" subgenre in there; they are all considerably more accessible than the ones in tier 2 and still listenable to non black metal fans. Teitanblood is so fucking good; their latest release does have a lot more variation in pace. I find that a lot of the war metal genre, especially the good parts, are like 75% death metal and the other 25% some combination of black, grind, and thrash. LLN aged so much better than the Norwegian counterparts; its some of the few 90s black metal I actually like.
Just gonna leave this here
Sorry if I messed up the spelling or forgot an artist.
Tier 1 Alcest
Summoning
Deafheaven
Wolves in the Throne Room
Harakiri for The Sky
Tier 2 (Any band from Norway)
Mgła
Watain
Dissection
Marduk
Dark Funeral
Sargeist
Horna
Tier 3 Blasphemy
Revenge
Beherit
Damaar
Naked Whipper
Tier 4 Blut Aus Nord
Deathspell Omega
Diapsiquir
Jute Gyte
Mamaleek
Tier 5 any in the Les Legions Noire
Mutiilation
Vlad Tepes
Obskiritatem
Black Cilice
Sortilegia
Moonblood
Xasthur
Leviathan
Tier 6 (The Nerdy Shit)
Abruptum
Sutekh Hexen
Semen drenched slave of the Devil
Emit
check out Enbilulugugal too
I think the band in the thumbnail is Weakling in case someone was interested(its wolves in the Throne Room, idk why I thought it why I confused it for the weakling logo)
Thank you! I'd been researching as I was listening. But for the life of me, I couldn't figure out diapsiquir and black cilice lmao
Props for mentioning Enbilulugugal. They fucking slay
eh idk why i dont like sutekh hexen, its just okay. Maybe try gnaw their tongues
@@dethronedemperor I worked with Dustin from enbilulugugal before he died last year for my latest release. iamdeadsmiles58.bandcamp.com/track/lonely-goat-corpse-ft-enbilulugugal
Black Metal Surface Level itself is a deep abyss in the music world.
Hell it's a deep abyss just on the Heavy Metal Iceberg.
@@derrickbonsell true
And it should be left alone and never disturbed.
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not really
The slam side isn't any shallower
I only clicked on this to get some new bands into my rotation, didn't expect to learn as much as I did about my favorite subgenre. Good work man.
Still waiting for "Man hitting a guitar into a trash can while screaming Satan at the top of his lungs" metal, entirely recorded on a 1995 phone answering machine.
are we sure merzbow hasnt done this?
Just so we're clear, does it have to be metal trash can or will any old material do? I'm asking for a "friend" with a "project"...
Trve Kvlt
🤣🤣
Go listen to Impaled Northern Moonforest
I'm from Lebanon and I was very pleasantly surprised to see Damaar on here, you were spot on about how overly religious this country is. Great vid btw, earned my sub
Much respect!
@@dread-cthulu Thank you!
@@chrisistopher yooo man im from Lebanon too
@@occultus284 happy to see other lebanese people in the community
@@chrisistopher yep, follow me on Instagram if you want so we can get in touch more. Occultus.666
Honestly I’d switch the war metal and experimental tier around, war metal is far less accessible and more obscure than deathspell omega.
Agreed
@@rufussamsquanch_6547 Especially since we have bands like Abigor and Deathspell omega as well as blut aus nord etc being widely talked about compared to necroholocaust for instance.
It's very individually imo. For me bands like Bölzer, Pseudogod, Archgoat, Teitanblood, Grave Miasma, Adversarial, Vassafor are far more accessible than any single Deathspell Omega post Infernal Battles song..
@@artyomkurakin3393 agreed, I think these are way more head bang worthy than Diapsiquir or Mamaleek. Yeah, I get that since Bestial is more raw it’d be next to the “Necro” tier but I wouldn’t say it’s less accessible than the Oddball tier
yeah war metal is way more intense then death spell
An iceberg for black metal that I haven't seen that before
What about depressive black metal or “DSBM?”
Silencer, Austere, Exiled From Light. You mentioned Xasthur and Leviathan but yeah. Haha sorry I don’t mean to sound like an elitist but that is definitely a subgenre of black metal that has a fairly large listener base.
I was waiting for it too, was surprised to see Xasthur in the raw section.
I wish I could enjoy Silencer... and it pains me that I can't.
@@HopefulNihilist why can’t you?
@@SinizterOfficial
The vocals.
I don't consider myself to be picky, but I just can't get used to them. And believe me, I tried.
Elite taste my friend
Darkweb Black Metal = perfect description of Emit. The music sounds like the picture looks.
Rofl yes
Check out Portal
@@Nightgaunt616 I'm checking them out now. They're definitely "out there" but in a good way. I wouldn't consider them "Darkweb" since they lack that "creep out" factor that will ruin your high (note to self: NEVER listen to Emit while blazed).
But the thing is Emit really ISNT BM its black ambient! no metal passages
@@wewuzwolves4428 i just listened to emit stoned and my ears are melting
Ulver and Agalloch would also fit pretty damn well in tier 1 I think
-and pretty much any band with a pagan theme.
yes yes yes
Ulver - Bergtatt is a rite of passage in my opinion.
Id also say Apati
Everything they made that is not Nattens Madrigal. That record in particular is a bit rough for the uninitiated.
I got dragged into the genre by Al-Namrood. I think their very unique approach to the genre makes them a really good starting point. Both through the folk elements like the utilization of the arabian scale and traditional arabic instruments as well as through the more accessible style of their current vocalist Humbaba (since "Heen Yadhar Al Ghasq"). Also I never met anybody - metalhead or not - who wasn't interested in taking a listen to their music after learning that their from Saudi-Arabia and could literally be executed for their music.
Thanks for adding a new band to my playlist :)
We never met but I’m not interested. Sounds “clickbaity” if you know what I mean.
@junesuprise who you never met and wtf are you talking about 😂 why would someone who you don't know be interested about you not being interested in something?
i was refering "Also I never met anybody - metalhead or not - who wasn't interested in taking a listen to their music after learning that their from Saudi-Arabia and could literally be executed for their music."@@punkjay4681
Master's Hammer album in the background, nice
One of the best albums of all-time!
@@canticlesfromthecatacombs7856 absolutely man
Czech classic. Metalheads here are proud, that someone actually knows our bands!
black metal virtue signaling
Nice pfp!
Just found your channel. Been looking for a rather underground knowledge type channel such as yours for awhile now and you totally fit the bill for me. Without going into too much more high praise, I appreciate the way you lay out your explanations. Most places come off very linear like they're reading straight from a script but I can tell no scripts probably ever needed for you because the time and knowledge is that deep. Ty man! Currently going through your catalog as well as anticipating new vids!
Great point about Damaar- I love that "legitimate"/lived experience coming through music. Makes such an impact, even when the chops aren't apex. Throwing it out there about Revenge- living/growing up in the same area as them, I very much get the same feeling about Revenge. I don't know them personally or anything, and perhaps I'm projecting, but I feel like their music bleeds the discontent of Alberta very specifically
As an Albertan, this is true.
As a Lebanese dude, I agree
Lebanon isn't as bad religiously as he describes it tho lmao. They wouldn't have been killed for their music (mostly because it was underground) but still. The drummer went to australia and converted back to islam is the version I heard. And I think the vocalist was in a thrash band called nightchains which I recommend you check out
@@muchwizardrainbowgandalfwi675 yoo what's your ig
@@muchwizardrainbowgandalfwi675 well I said that cause ive heard so many people say they got "death threats" from their music thus which is why they fled to Australia.
Don’t know how I ended up here cuz I listen to rap music but this was an interesting video, ill probably check out these bands now.
Start in tier 2
What rappers do you like? I'm currently getting into rap from metal and punk.
@@huggiedistance u should prolly listen to City Morgue/Zillakami, maybe sum scarlxrd. It really all depends on what ur lookin for, if ur lookin for metal or at least harder soundin rap then I’d say those 2. I like a lot of underground street rap but idk if you’d like it cuz obviously we on a black metal video
@@yungwxiner4226 hell yeah man, I love city mourge and scarlxrd, I'm actually mostly into thrash metal and the band anthrax had a huge relation to early gangsta rap. Public Enemy and NWA are some of my favorite rap groups.
@@yungwxiner4226 but I would love some more street rap suggestions.
Another one that could be on tier 6 is stallagh. It's a project formed by some guys who work at an asylum and they convinced the people in charge to let them record the patients screaming as a form of therapy. You can kind of hear some riffs and drums in the background at points, but it's mostly just screaming. It's just really hard to listen to.
not really black metal though its legit just noise is all it is
Nah the Stallagh is just some edgelord nihilists from lebannon and the netherlands lol the whole story is a marketing trick.
its not black metal its more in the harsh noise genre
@am i a pseudo intellectual? yes or no i mean yeah but pure misanthropia has like 0 black metal influence whatsoever
@am i a pseudo intellectual? yes or no ?
Thanks for bringing up Xasthur and Leviathan/ Lurker of chalice.
Just started getting into Black Metal! Saving this one, this looks like it'll be really helpful.
top of the ice berg MAYHEM bottom of the ice berg MAYHEM background story
i think the background story is pretty mainstream , i mean even people who dont listen to black metal know about the whole varg vikernes stuff
@@a.r.i.a5003 hahahah Varg..... well he's a MEME now.... so yeah its pretty mainstream...... agreed
All Mayhem is insanely good
@@a.r.i.a5003 top of the ice berg Mayhem story. Bottom of the iceberg The ToF
Mayhem is the drizzling shits.... just pure unadulterated crap..
Bro I recently found your channel and Im in love. I turned my ad blocker off for you lol. Its everything Ive ever wanted in a metal channel. The format, the tidbits of backstory with some bands (but not so much that it detracts from the music), etc...are all fantastic. Please dont detract too much from the whole "sitting in a chair infront of records spitting knowledge" format. One suggestion is you could add the bands you mention in your description. Other than that, keep on keeping on. Ill plug your channel as much as I can on the various metal subreddits.
Emit's music isn't all noisy. They (he?) has also released some Dark Ambient stuff like Spectre Music Of An Antiquary (which is actually quite relaxing to listen to, if you can believe it). Also, one of the guys who played in Emit has got a Roman Catholic Black Metal band called Reverorum Ib Malacht, which is every bit as weird and odd, though much less noisy. I must admit though, it's weird (but welcoming) to see people outside the UK know about Emit. Tier 6 could basically be called the Todestrieb Records roster, as we have a fair few of these weird, oddball noisy Black Metal bands, such as T.O.M.B., Extinction, Basilisk, and The Tyrant of Manchester (yes that is the band name)
5:27 I commend you for pronouncing mgła correctly, haven't heard many people even try
I used to literally call them “Magla”. Until I got to know a polish friend who told me it’s “Mgła”. Literally, no other syllable than the A, and the L is pronounced weirdly.
@@JacobA666 Ł is pronounced like english W, eg. White, biały, ławka, wow, łał
if only you wrote 'commend' correct when complimenting someone on their pronunciation lol
@@JacobA666 well Magla has the same meaning as Mgła, just a different language
@@whitewizard1914 what do you know.. linguistics are amazing :)
Loved the video, so much information, and so well explained. Thank you for such short yet well thought-out analysis.
Normally I don't like these iceberg videos, as I think they're pretty overdone, but this one was actually engaging. Good stuff!
Since you talked about Damaar n religion: there's this anti-islamic black metal band called Janaza. It's a musical project by an Iraqi woman (who, in fact lives in Iraq, how brave). Pretty good stuff.
I thought that band was debunked as a hoax some years ago.
@@JohnDiabol Oh, I didn't know that. But, whether that's true or not, the music still slaps.
@@formrkelse3138 I'm definitely always up for some anti Islamic black metal.
Think I'm going to make a response video just adding on some points of this. Really well put together stuff!
thank you for the Damaar suggestion! been looking for something like this (similar to one of my favorite CDs, Slavia's Strength and Vision) THANK YOU.
Yes, Alcest are such a great place to start for most. I've played their records for a few friends and everyone found them beautiful, even if they didn't like metal in general.
One I didn’t mention that’s similar to Alcest but easily my favorite for the style would be “Lantlos”
Their album “Neon” is perfection and that balances out shoegaze and black metal to a near perfect even degree.
Id also say Les Discreits or however you spell it
Alcest is just plain calming for a lot of songs I mean try and do a full length cover of "sur le ocean couler de fer" without accidentally carrying yourself into an almost hypnotic sleep. It's perfect
I absolutely adore Jute Gyte! His recent records Oviri and Mitrealität in particular are some of the most impressively composed and uncompromising extreme guitar music out there with some really fascinating, alien riffing and incredibly imaginative production. Also, all respect for bringing up Diapsiquir. Definitely one of the oddest black metal acts I've listened to, peculiarly charming in this super off-kilter way. The way that you described them was absolutely on point.
Incidentally, funny thing when you compared Sutekh Hexen to Prurient: I'm not sure if you're aware of this or not, but Dominick Fernow is in several black metal projects, including Departure Chandelier and Ash Pool (whose song "Holocaust Temple" has some incredible melodic vocal work). Guy seriously gets around.
I've had that Damaar record since Hell Headbangers got copies back in 2007, it's one of the jewels in my collection. Good video Wyatt, interesting premise, and a good execution.
Cool. I love these iceberg videos. Very well done and deep explained. My favorite subgenre of metal is black metal and its a deep dark abyss to get into.
I really enjoyed this video. One thing that surprised me was that the avant-garde / dissonant stuff was below the "war metal" tier. I'd say that Beherit is much less accessible than Deathspell Omega, at least to my ears. Great video though!
I'm really glad you gave Jute Gyte a mention; he is one artist I never hear anyone speak or know of. I actually listen to all of his styles he makes, sometimes his chaotic black metal, sometimes his ambient glitch stuff really hits the spot if I crave something less stimulating.
Have you ever heard of the band Wold? I feel like they could have had a mention under your Dark Web Black Metal tier. They are basically harsh noise with Donald Duck or Eric Cartman on vocals. It's some nasty, scathing shit. But it's oddly relaxing to listen to?
Also, perhaps Gnaw Their Tongues could have been another band for this tier as well? More of that experimental, nasty dark black metal stuff.
Nice video though, I enjoyed it.
P.S. You may have gotten me interested in Sutekh Hexen. Also, I actually love Deafheaven, and I used to listen to Alcest.
The microtonal album ship of theseus is one of my fav8
Also I love escatalogical scatology by gnaw there tongues
LLN and the associated acts is what really drew me into black metal as a teen. Sure I had listened to some Gorgoroth, some Carpathian Forest, and even some Darkthrone, but nothing compared to the LLN. I was too young to really appreciate all of it, but the "gems" I found kept me coming back time and time again. I only like them more as I grow older too. They really provide some next level darkness. Top tier BM to this day.
nice video dude 👌🏻 thoroughly enjoyed this
Right on! Just found this channel.. let the binge watching begin
Once I listened a track from WITTR with my mom and she dig it. She said the music was awesome, but didn't get the shouting vocals. So, yes, Wolves is pretty much Tier 1
Sounds like you're describing Saudi Arabia rather than Lebanon. Lebanon is one of the more liberal countries in the Middle East. Although, you can't get too liberal in the Middle East-that's true
Appreciate that Master’s Hammer - Ritual LP in the background🤘🏻
I would put those later havohej albums in the tier 6 list section or somewhere up there. Cool video, i wasn't expecting someone to do a good black metal iceberg list!
If you want noise with a black metal vibe listen to Hurqalya by Sacrificial Totem. This release in particular was dubbed "blackest ambient metal" and while I don't think there's enough black metal influence in it to be placed in this list the discussion of noise at the end made me think of it.
Thanks for breaking this down, I've been wondering lately what the limit for darkness would be, and I think I found it
Welcome
I am starting to get into black metal...this video helped me allot! Thank you kind sir :)
I feel honored to have been able to give this the 666th like haha.
Also for the oddball tier I think I'd personally add Todestoss, I don't feel like they get mentioned enough. They're totally nuts and fascinating. For the raw tier I think I'd add Nihill and Novae Militiae. I don't know, maybe they're not essential but they're some of the best in my eyes
Great video! Lots of bands I'm excited to check out after watching this
Holy shit, another Todesstoß fan in the wild! I think they keep the five or so of us apart so we don't breed and further poison the gene pool…
@@ConvincingPeople do not worry we shall hunt you down, it has been foretold, you will not poison thy gene pool. We are ancient we have always watched you.
Satanhartalt is a group that you could consider to be Tier 6 black metal. Being a black noise, it is very eerie and dark, super raw, I love it. It's like exploring a Medieval hell (the art on their tapes gives that vibe).
Appreciate the recommendation!
Thanks man
is this dungeon synth?
Great video really enjoyed the info and your personality. You just got a new sub
Yo big props for covering this, black metal on the internet is so polarizing to discuss
Me: (backing up a forklift) i'll take the whole berg, thank you
You should do the iceberg on all genres!!
Great video, man!
Sick Triumvir Foul shirt, dude. Subscribed!
I feel like S T A L L A G G H should be there somewhere, probably in a seventh tier
eight tier and silencer or diagnose lebensgefahr
I would put some of the dsbm bands on the 7th or even the 8th tier
Projekt Terrror was a... it was a ride
i feel like the occasional instrumentals feel more noise-grind, no?
I thought he was going to bring up them in the last tier because you really can’t understand anything expect for screaming children
I'm more the deathcore/deathmetal guy, but this video was very interesting to listen to. Thank you!
Great video. I always liked the atmosphere of abrumptum, since the 90s.I never thought of them in the sense you described.
Didn't expect you to mention diapsiquir! First time i've ever heard someone talk about them in a video, very cool!
I'm so thankful this video has been uploaded. Do you have any videos reviewing all your records? I would love to see something like that.
I have a playlist for my vinyl collection
"stuff that really pushes the sanity level"
Me guessing ahead: Ooh, ooh, Depressive Suicidal Black metal, definitely!
Also Me: Oh no...what if it goes deeper??
really dig this video. don't know shit abt black metal but it's cool seeing it getting broken down into six "types" that actually delves into the subject further than "guy screams in his car for 40 minutes and makes a 4 hour long black metal project with it"
my only gripe with this is that it feels like a band recommendation video and not really an iceberg. it'd take a small group of seasoned fans to pull together a berg covering not only notable bands, but also historical events like controversies, tropes like shithouse quality black metal, injokes and practices and common beliefs in the scene, all sorts of shit, and then ranking all that shit by obscurity. it would be super sick seeing something like that, but its understandably a shitload of work
Great vid! Learned a lot of new things about my favorite metal sub genre.
Out of curiosity, where on the Iceberg would you put the more accessible avant-garde bands like Krallice and Spectral Lore?
It’s so beautiful to see how many insanely talented and creative people black metal has gone on to inspire
Amy examples? I'm actually curious
@@MooSaidChicken Igorrr
22:02 Prurient (Dominck Fernow) is a member of Departure Chandelier credited as Fanalis
Man. Ur list gave me chills. Thanks for bunch. Confirmed Sub here.
Great video. I would very much recommend Vessel of Iniquity too, one of my favourite discoveries of last year.
Of that’s some intense shit ! I’m pretty sure I still got his demo on vinyl
R.I.P Damaar
Been more of a Death Metal fan traditionally, but the range of sounds that you can get within black metal is so much more creatively freeing, thanks for the recommendations! They are great! 1914 is my favorite “bestial” or “war” metal band because they honor the horrors of war and slow down the tempo because it’s not just about the action, but the consequences of such horror.
1914 are fucking sick
Try to listen another ukrainian bm band Burshtyn, they also have very good songs.
1914 are not war metal lol
Yea that's not war metal . 1914 is blackend death doom. 1914 is way better than any war metal crap noise. War metal is white noise and is recorded live .
I can't see anyone talking about Mamaleek. I feel you 100% how you seem mesmerized trying to give off an impression of what they music is; it's the most creative thing i have heard in my music life. It is so rich, so deep, the way their wright their songs is something i have never came accross in any genre. it's clearly a demonstration of music as an art.
IT, the founder of Abruptum, also had a band called Ophthalamia which was amazing. Definitely worth checking out.
Ophtalamia, they are great on their first album vocalist was Jon from Dissection, on later albums Legion from Marduk
@@mariozd971 I particularly love the second one
@@ashkandi1337I thought I was the only one!
Great list. I got to know some interesting new bands, especially in the lower 2 tiers.
Here are some of my additions:
Tier 1: Panopticon, None, Agalloch
Tier 2: Judas Iscariot (American so doesn't fall under the anything-from-Norway category)
Tier 2.5 (Crust punk): Drakthrone (later), Wolfbrigade, All Pigs Must Die, Oathbreaker, Black Breath
Tier 4: Imperial Triumphant, Krallice, Oranssi Pazuzu, Liturgy, Thy Catafalque (they may also go in Tier 1), Sigh
Tier 6: Stalaggh (if you want to still call that black metal or, you know... music)
Liturgy is literally layer 1 stuff
Strongly agree with your tiers, @kristofbe1 - also, never heard of None, so I’ll be checking them out!
I seem to be a strange case, as I managed to end up on both ends of the black metal ice berg without really crossing into the middle. Very shortly after being shown Darkthrone, Mayhem, Burzum, Bathory, etc, I somehow found Dead Before Death by Emit. Can confirm, basically noise. Interesting noise, gut wrenching noise, but noise.
found some great bands here mate thanks! really enjoying Abruptum its so raw and dark
Awesome video!
Welp thanks for givin’ me new bands to listen to, delving into tier 6 lmao.
I've never been so excited to learn lol
NGL, listening to Sutekh Hexen now and this is fire. Thanks!
We also have MZ412 which is like if Abruptum met more traditional dark noise with the general feel of burzum
burzum will never be outdone. It was one man posessed with greatness
You could probably expand it to more tiers. I think some of the "harsher" atmospheric bands like Drudkh and some of the more symphonic or folkish bands like Nokturnal Mortum and Moonsorrow could fit in a tier between 1 and 2. Also there's room for another tier between 2 and 3 for bands like Peste Noire, Goatmoon, and Warwulf that still sort of "carry on the spirit" of black metal but at the same time are trying to keep it more obscure and inaccessible. And then there's the question of whether or not NSBM gets its own tier for the sheer inaccessibility of its themes and messages.
I immediately had the thought of where KPN might fit into all this
Peste Noire are NSBM.
@@crushed_infamy Wrong. But they are pretty much as close to it as you can get without being full blown NSBM. You want actual NSBM? Check out Wolfnacht and Ar*an Blood.
@Ryan Williams lol looks like your comment was shadow-banned by youtube for saying a verboten word. I can see it in my notifications because you replied to me but I don't think anyone else can.
And I can't help it if more "problematic" bands make better black metal than the politically correct ones. Maybe you should make your own RABM band and show all us "ebil nahtzees" how it's done.
@@matthewcarson3736 Very few good NSBM and borderline NSBM bands imo, but gotta give props where props is due. Peste Noire's early albums rule.
Peste Noire - Split - Peste Noire on the other hand though... lol
Actually, the band that made me love black metal was Mutiilation. As soon as I heard Transylvania I knew this genre is something magical...
I remember how claustrophobic Rites Through the Twillight of Hell felt when I was still discovering BM (long ago). This demo is still something extremely fascinating to me, even though I must be one of the only person to like this demo given how they could barely play their instruments at the time lol. But the production and smothering of the sound was so perfect in creating the atmosphere...
Never in my life have I enjoyed black metal but I’m excited to give some of these bands a try! I’ve heard random inaudible black metal in the past and just wrote it off, but ima try to do this the right way this time🤘
how its going karen 🤣
Probably heard stalaggh
I'd say tier 1 in my favorite tier, lots of nostalgic love for tier 2, tier 3 is just... meh closest thing I like in that category MIGHT be Inquisition but that may be more tier 2, tier 4 has some great stuff there, tier 5 also great, tier 6 is legitimately alien to me, as much as I like challenging music, I like music, not the electrical interpretation of schizophrenia, which sounds cooler than the music actually sounds like.
Great vid! I am looking forward to checking these out.
Shout out to these underrated bands:
Alter of Plagues
1914
Ash Borer
Crafteon
Bufhimat
Elegiac
Ellende
Firelink
NONE
Nordicwinter
Pan- Amerikan Native Front
Panopticon
SAOR
AEvangilist
Cairn
YMIR
SPIRIT PROCESSION
Non Opus Del
1914 are awesome, I’ve been listening to them a lot lately.
Interesting take on describing Black Metal. My introduction albums were, De Mysteriis Dom Sathanas, In The Nightside Eclipse and Opus iv back in the mid 90s. Pretty well upon release. Still a few of my favorite albums. Like Summoning a lot. Earlier Summoning was not so atmospheric. Prior to De Mysteriis Dom Sathanas, almost all Black Metal was recorded in "tin can" style you mentioned. Varg had a video on RUclips where he explains this. Don't know if it is still up considering they took down his videos. He basically says the "tin can" recordings were anti pop music. Clean was seen as mainstream. Abruptum for the most part is definately noise. But they do have a few good songs. They are actually capable of playing their instruments.
For me it was the opposite about the raw black metal. I always thought that this genre should sound like this and therefore, it became my favourite. I love the haunting atmosphere that raw black metal produces.
Yeah, I am under the impression that it is the essence of black metal, and the other genres are more about experimentation or finding other ways to express this, giving rise to extremely different things.
That being said, I've been into BM for so long now that I totally understand that newer fans may be put off by how barebones this stuff can be. Also, production quality has improved massively since then and as such it's very understandable that people may have a harder time than before to get back into this. (Also, I'm not a snob: it's a good thing production quality went up as it allows some stuff that wasn't really possible before. Good production quality can help enhancing brutality or specific feelings in ways that weren't possible before, overall helping to expand what black metal can be).
Oh hey you even used the iceberg graphic that I personally made like a decade ago. Its weird to see that keep popping up.
You can articulate very well
Any chance we can get a list of these bands mentioned for looking up purposes? Thank you!
If you haven't seen it already, there's a pinned comment at the top with all the bands mentioned
@@skeletalremains8555 I did see it! Thanks for the thought to reply!
I had no idea you got yourself a blackout tattoo, looks good on you too.
Great video bro, I think you were spot on with your tiers. And a big thanx for Naked Whipper! I listened to Painstreak and got fucking goose bumps!
A big suggestion for tier 6:
German band Dawnfall with their album Drei Räume
Recommended updates:
Level 1: Summoning: Just the first record "Lugburz" which is actually BM, Would add Venom and Bathory to a certain extend too
Level 2: Unanimated, Ancient Rites, Keep of Kalessin, Evol, Anaal Nathrakh, Necrophobic, Decameron, Satanized, Impaled Nazarene or more contemporarely: Sarastus: Enter the necropolis
Level 3: Belphegor, Mor Dagor, Forgotten Woods, Pest (both from SWE and from NOR),
Level 4: Abigor (especially "Fractal Possession"), Dodheimsgard, Mysticum (the first album)
Level 5: Nargaroth, Judas Iscariot, Katharsis (Germany), Graveland, Satanic Warmaster, Urgehal,
Level 7: There are plenty of those who just release cassettes or limited EP - Sombre Records from Germany were famous for releasing such bands
Level 8: Tape traded shit like the "Chainsaw gutsfuck" demo from Mayhem on tape.
Not a fan of the music but I observe it as a form of entertainment. Black metal had its heyday in the '90's and early 2000's. But there are so many artists now and they're all so similarly wired (to my ears) it's hard to really tell one from the other. IMO extreme music is heading in the direction of non-genre specific metal. Bands like Meshuggah are doing things like taking thrash music and adding truly extreme blendings of percussion and guitars with unique vocals. Or Portal took death metal to an atmospheric place, a la norwegian black metal. Their music is truly chaos, something most bands require horrific visuals to attain. Again, not something I can sit there and listen to but fun to observe how this form of art is evolving from the sidelines.
I'm also wearing a Triumvir Foul shirt today. #twinning
I always introduce people to black metal with Abigor or Horna. Or I just put on Puritanical Euphoric Misanthropia for something more on the melodic side but still heavy. I know a lot of people don’t consider Dimmu Borgir as “black metal”, but it’s more to slowly lead them into what you’d consider more traditional or “true” black metal due to the obvious influence. A lot of people lose interest immediately if you just throw on something with tons of blast beats and tremolo picking lol It’s similar to trying to show people death metal for the first time. Usually I have to look through my library for music with more of a groove and rhythm. A lot of times in your face growls, aggressive riffs and drums with a ton going on pushes them away never to return lmao It’s always a challenge when a non metal head asks me “what kind of music do you listen to?”. If they dont already know the music or terminology, I have to resort to just playing the music for them. I have to think “well...where did I start out? What’s the lightest aggressive music that I have?” Haha if I just put on my heaviest stuff then they make that cringe face and try to be polite and say something like “well....it’s definitely...interesting. I cant see why you like it!....”. Meanwhile I’m sitting there like “we both know you’re lying, you want this experience to end 45 seconds ago and your ears are bleeding.” Lol Black Metal is for sure an acquired taste. It’s basically the craft beer of music. Most people probably start out with like bud light or corona before they’re drinking indie craft double IPA’s. You gotta go slow to appreciate it then go back and be like “huh, maybe the stuff I was consuming before was actually watered down garbage.” I know that may be a dumb analogy, but if you got into craft beers and stuff after drinking “normal” beer, you’ll get what I’m saying in terms of quality and flavor. At first it’s like “this is alright I guess.” But you appreciate it later once your pallet gets accustomed and you can really taste all the different flavors/notes. That sounds kind of snobby probably, but it’s the best thing I can think of.
Yo. Been digging Blasphemy for a while. Thanks for the heads up with Naked Whipper. Shit is brutal! This is a really good list. I’m happy you spoke about deathspell without the, you know, um, stuff that has nothing to do with the music. Props for that. Question: where on the list would Portal and Wold be on?
Although he already featured Portal in his death metal iceberg video, he could also put Portal in the oddball tier. So, in a sense, Portal is oddball blackened death.
I could put Wold in the deep web tier. I could feature some other related bands to Wold such as Gnaw Their Tongues, Enbilulugugal, Ahulabrum, Mnima, Utarm, and a few others. Some very authentic underground bands such as Tritonchasm, Wheel of Sickies, Mhnunrrn, and Baxbakwalanuxsiwae.
Another few projects that could fit in the bottom tier could be Grausamkeit, Witchmoon, Friedhof, and Paysage D’Hiver.
sunn o))) have occasional tier 6 moments. *ducks. Axis Of Perdition scrapes into 6 occasionally too.
Wyatt, if you would include every black metal band out there, this video would be 6 hours long. Great video nonetheless. 👍
Im definately all about tier 2, 3.
4 not at all.
5 im into again. Havent touched much on tier 6 yet.
I would merge the first two tiers because people getting into it out of curiossity usually start in either the hipster bands or the Trve Kvlt bands, then move onto either dsbm with Silencer or Xasthur, prog bm like Enslaved or Blut aus Nord, dystopian/based/raw bm like Peste Noire or Satanic Warmaster, occult/satanic^2 bm like Dark Funeral or Watain, symphonic bm like Dimmu Borgir or Ceremonial Castings or ambient/ Dungeon Synth bm like Summoning or Lustre.
"Necro Black Metal"
Malaise - Bringer of Destruction
The most stripped down to the bones black metal demo out there. 1 riff per song
Luftwaffe Raid
Satanic Funeral
Obehag
Lethal Diabolic
Durthang
Nad
Check out Parabellum from Colombia! Idk what tier they would be at, but with those improvised cacophonies, I feel a 5
That's Ultra metal (among with Reencarnación, Blasfemia, maybe Nekromantie, Astaroth, Sacrilegio) a proto death/black metal that certainly is in the tier of roots of black metal, but not black metal per se. Same with Sarcofago or Vulcano from Brasil or Bloody Cross from Chile (which is far much black metal than the mentioned previous bands)
@@paulomirandaarias9544 Ultra Metal was a movement comprised of different subgenres, I wouldn't call Danger, Mierda, or Ekhymosis' demo proto-black. All those bands you mentioned fall under black/thrash while being proto-black.
Very cool video, man! I guess I spend most of my black metal listening in tier 1,3,4,5. Tier 2 bores me to death and I'm not kvlt enough to have even heard of any bands that would be in tier 6. Maybe Gnaw Their Tongues?
IDK if I'd put WITTR in the "pretty black metal" tier. Maybe later albums, but earlier ones were still fairly inaccessible. Long songs, harsher vocals, more traditional black metal riffing on an album like two hunters. I'd put Agalloch and most of that "folk black" subgenre in there; they are all considerably more accessible than the ones in tier 2 and still listenable to non black metal fans.
Teitanblood is so fucking good; their latest release does have a lot more variation in pace. I find that a lot of the war metal genre, especially the good parts, are like 75% death metal and the other 25% some combination of black, grind, and thrash.
LLN aged so much better than the Norwegian counterparts; its some of the few 90s black metal I actually like.
That right hand sleeve looks rad dude