Why Do You Think You Have Rights Over Palestine! Shamsi VS Jews | Speakers Corner
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I can't believe we are actually discussing this topic when we clearly know what the truth is.
what is the truth?
What is the truth?
i wonder what is the truth?
The truth is One.
There is no god but One God. Aalmighty and Merciful.
God of Adam, Noah, Abraham, Moses, Jesus, Mary, Mohammad and all other messengers of God and all of us now.
One God and submission to Him alone.
Praise be He, who created the heavens and earth in 6 days.
The Master of the Day of Judgement.
That can not be denied.
The truth is it's Israels land and always will be!
Brother shamsi you're sooo good man ! Ellhamdoulillah that there is muslims like you
Even UN(various religions/Countries) approve ISREAL on 1948, Arab Muslim contries attacked on Isreal. That is first wrong of Arab Muslim countries and they shouldnt involve. Isreal also wrong due they never follow up UN. Both of them are wrong.
Anyway, we all must agree the development of ISREAL country due UN approved.
He is lying
If you gathered all prophets in one place, they don't have any conflict or contradiction in any field... their followers don't understand the original purpose of this life.
As a Christian Armenian , i enjoyed this discussion.. well done on communication
On that day the Lord made a covenant with Abram and said, "To your descendants I give this land, from the Wadi of Egypt to the great river, the Euphrates - the land of the Kenites, Kenizzites, Kadmonites, Hittites, Perizzites, Rephaites, Amorites, Canaanites, Girgashites and Jebusites." - Genesis 15:18-21.
@@GODOURSALVATION. Тогда они были Единобожники как Мусульман, сейчас они уже заблудшие община
@@GODOURSALVATION.❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤😊😊0
@@ILYAS-7 Your post is an error, but but for the sake of the argument let's say you are correct. In that case you agree that the land that God promised he gave it to the Jews.
@@Figs4Life Аллах отдал эту территорию за то что они соблюдали Единобожия. А не за то что из-за их национальности. Когда они стали заблудшими и начали убивать Посланники Аллаха, им настигли карма.
Everyone knows the Story. But no one is telling the Truth!
jews contradict themselves, they quote the Torah to argue jewish presence within Palestine, but disbelieve in the rest of the Torah by not implementing it at all. In fact they implement anti Torah laws, since this “jewish” state is implementing secularism, and promoting liberalist values, which goes against the Torah, thus meaning this “jewish” state implements anti-jewish law. How can that be? How can a jewish state be so anti jewish? You see the inconsistency? You see the contradiction?
As Allah says in the Quran: “Then is it only a part of the Book that ye believe in, and do ye reject the rest?” (Surah Al-Baqarah, Ayah 85)
The only thing this “jewish” state has done, is spread corruption within the holy land. H@m@sexuality which is a sin, is prevalent within jewish cities within Palestine. How come you believe in parts of the scripture and disbelieve in the rest? And not only that, but you kick out the inhabitants of those dwelling within Palestine by establishing settlements, thus displacing innocent people from their homes. And you expect no reaction? After all the injustices the Palestinians are forced to endure you expect no reaction. I can go on and on, but I have already made my point. And I doubt you or anyone will have a rebuttal to my statements. I only stated this for the sake of Allah. And he is a witness over all things. My Allah grant victory to the Muslims in Palestine against the oppressors, may Allah drive the oppressors out of the holy land. Those who spread corruption within it. Ameen.
What the truth in your opinion n knowledge ?
@@lindapuspita2902which planet u from?
rubbish talk from someone who came from the country that never exist... delusion
Even UN(various religions/Countries) approve ISREAL on 1948, Arab Muslim contries attacked on Isreal. That is first wrong of Arab Muslim countries and they shouldnt involve. Isreal also wrong due they never follow up UN. Both of them are wrong.
Anyway, we all must agree the development of ISREAL country due UN approved.
These demonic people run from the truth and ignore the acts they bring upon people to oppress them as long as they benefit.
Who is demonic ?
@@chrismichaels6928 who do u think. The people that are oppressing Palestinians, stealing land, and commiting mass murder upon civilians in the name of finding Hamas.
☝️May Allah help and protect the people of Palestine🇵🇸🤲
On that day the Lord made a covenant with Abram and said, "To your descendants I give this land, from the Wadi of Egypt to the great river, the Euphrates - the land of the Kenites, Kenizzites, Kadmonites, Hittites, Perizzites, Rephaites, Amorites, Canaanites, Girgashites and Jebusites." - Genesis 15:18-21.
Jesus was not a Muslim. Jesus rabbi Joshua Ben Josef Jesus was Jewish in land of Israel and he practiced Judaism not Islam.. Jesus was Zionist.
True! But are you saying this is why the the people who claim to be the Chosen People have the right to that Land? I’m putting an Emphasis on the Word Claim!!
@@as1israelkingdom4life you claim for Jewish people to be chosen. Chosen to follow laws rules and regulations given to Moses by God God has dedicated children of Israel as nation and land of Israel for that purpose. Muslim Arabs can live in peace in land of Israel and practice Islam' but you cannot have your own government and army and rule over Jews and Christians. Because Allah Said so
@@as1israelkingdom4life
[Moses said]: O my people! Enter the Holy Land which God has written for you, and do not turn tail, otherwise you will be losers." Mohammed here understands "written" to mean this is the final word from God on the subject. In reaction, he was inundated with hate mail.
And We said to the Children of Israel after Pharaoh, “Reside in the land, but when the promise of the Hereafter comes to pass, We will bring you all together.”
- Surah Al-Isra 17:104
And ˹remember˺ when Moses said to his people, “O my people! ...Enter the Holy Land which Allah has destined for you ˹to enter˺. And do not turn back or else you will become losers.”
- Surah Al-Ma'idah 5:20-107
Land of Israel was given to the Jewish people. Muslims can live in land of Israel in peace and practice Islam but they cannot form their own government and rule over Jews and Christians. How And where Allah can gather children of Israel when you put your "Palestine* on the top of Isreal?
From the river to the sea Palestine will be Free lnshaALLAH❤ from Indian Muslim 🇮🇳.We are against Israeli Terrorism
On that day the Lord made a covenant with Abram and said, "To your descendants I give this land, from the Wadi of Egypt to the great river, the Euphrates - the land of the Kenites, Kenizzites, Kadmonites, Hittites, Perizzites, Rephaites, Amorites, Canaanites, Girgashites and Jebusites." - Genesis 15:18-21.
Let india be free move to pakistan
Yes Free India from Muslim occupation who are eating poor slim Indian cows .I feel sorry for the animals.
He has passion ,once he realises and becomes a Muslim he he will do well for himself and others, May Allah guide us all inshallah!!
Ameen
Ameen
So he will only do well if he becomes Muslim? You are delusional
Ken Canaan kadar it all black people no red Muslims black people
Even UN(various religions/Countries) approve ISREAL on 1948, Arab Muslim contries attacked on Isreal. That is first wrong of Arab Muslim countries and they shouldnt involve. Isreal also wrong due they never follow up UN. Both of them are wrong.
Anyway, we all must agree the development of ISREAL country due UN approved.
Shamsi I love your discussions.....it's so educational and highly informative 😮😮😮
Remove palestines from land of israel in bible and quran by al lah
bible says Moses ordered the Israelites to conquer the Land; Numbers 33:54-55 And ye shall divide the land by lot for an inheritance among your families: and to the more ye shall give the more inheritance, and to the fewer ye shall give the less inheritance: every man's inheritance shall be in the place where his lot falleth; according to the tribes of your fathers ye shall inherit.
But if ye will not drive out the inhabitants of the land from before you; then it shall come to pass, that those which ye let remain of them shall be pricks in your eyes, and thorns in your sides, and shall vex you in the land wherein ye dwell.
The Qur'an relates the words by which Moses ordered the Israelites to conquer the Land:
"And [remember] when Moses said to his people: 'O my people, call in remembrance the favour of God unto you, when he produced prophets among you, made you kings, and gave to you what He had not given to any other among the peoples. O my people, enter the Holy Land which God has assigned unto you, and turn not back ignominiously, for then will ye be overthrown, to your own ruin.'" [Qur'an 5:20-21]
so my friend ur al lah gave isreal a wrong land to jew
Remove palestines from land of israel first, my friend then u can cry
This speaker said not believing in bible but he quote isaiah 42 for make his point, what a hyprocite person, anyway the people of judah with all the israeli especting to meet Mesiah that came from the seed of David not arabian profit
@@mm-dg7wzdont be smart on ur keyboard, come down speaker corner then will see if youre smart enough to challenge the speaker😅😂😂😂😂
@@lacroquetalacroqueta6813 just look on your own koran, moses suppously speak an ancient hebrew in his time not speak in arabic, koran shows a big big mistake
Even UN(various religions/Countries) approve ISREAL on 1948, Arab Muslim contries attacked on Isreal. That is first wrong of Arab Muslim countries and they shouldnt involve. Isreal also wrong due they never follow up UN. Both of them are wrong.
Anyway, we all must agree the development of ISREAL country due UN approved.
Free palestina selam from albania 🇦🇱
And they called themselves Jews. If he doesn’t believe in musa pbuh and Abraham pbuh then he ain’t a Jew he is a Zionist atheist so why does he calls himself a Jew 🤯
Shamsi is right but also let’s not forget there are good Jews who protest for Palestine & you don’t see that but now it’s coming out
they're pretending to be pro palestine
palestina people love hamas they all was cheering when they attack isreal with 5k bombs now they all crying because there attack didnt do nothing but make the jews verry mad and they will get destroyed they ruled 1000 years so what XD they stole that land now the jews wil steal it get over it lol yor own moslims neigbours dont let you in there safe countries that how moslims care for moslims
Most Palestinians are terrorists.. some are innocent but most want death and destruction
That's the orthodox jews
@@badaboys2098 orthodox jews are worse because of what they believe about goyem, at least the secular jews do it out of psychopathic indoctrination and victimhood that makes them want to genocide millions, but core jewish doctrine has some insanely brutal things regarding whoever they percieve as amalek, about shiksas (goyem women), age of consent, millions of them look orthodox but they're actualy in sufi mysticism groups that are pagan and do ritualist sacrifice and murder of children, historically been kicked out from many countries do to child kidnapping and murder
Shamsi is our hero i love you for the sake of Allah,please pray for our brothers and sisters in Palestine🇦🇪☝️ ❤
Salaam 🇵🇸
@@bbginc694 👋
Even UN(various religions/Countries) approve ISREAL on 1948, Arab Muslim contries attacked on Isreal. That is first wrong of Arab Muslim countries and they shouldnt involve. Isreal also wrong due they never follow up UN. Both of them are wrong.
Anyway, we all must agree the development of ISREAL country due UN approved.
Ameen Ameen Ameen!
@@sitraveller2328
Lol?
They bought the land in 1910 after that they started genocide of course people will prepare for war
And it will happen again you and I we both know that
“It’s too many questions” .. “which ones do you want me to answer” “two different questions” ….. just pick one . 😂😂
ISRAEL SAY GOD LOVE ONLY ISRAELIS NO OTHER RELIGION PEOPLE LIKE CHRISTIANS MUSLIM AND MANY OTHERS IS THIS TRUE
Oh my, I just made the connection on why they treat the Palestinians the way they do… Could it be that some Zionists were so deeply affected by what Hitler inflicted upon them that now they are repeating how they were treated, where someone who has experienced mistreatment as a child or youth repeats the same behavior towards others, is often referred to as the cycle of abuse. This pattern can be deeply ingrained and challenging to break without appropriate intervention and support. It is a serious issue and often requires therapy, counseling, or other forms of professional help to address and prevent the cycle from continuing in future generations.
Greetings… can I ask you a question? Don’t you think the hardships they faced escaping being slaves in Egypt was equally or maybe even worse than what Hiltar did? Not saying any of it was right because it was all extremely wrong. Don’t you see why Allah (God) protected them with a prophet (Moses) and entrusted them with a huge responsibility to teach the world about God and what our purpose as humans really is? History shows they have failed miserably and Allah speaks of Bani Israel in the Quran. Literally everything happening in the world today has already been told to us that it will happen in detail. I encourage all to educate themselves, Mankind has lost their way no one prioritizes what Gods laws are. That’s why the world is falling apart and God mentions all this in the Quran Islam was the final reminder for mankind it’s as simple as that. These things happening now are signs of the end not to try to scare you or anyone else but it’s only the truth. Must see things with both eyes most only see with one.
My Allah guide you to the right path sister
@@topahk2671 I appreciate your interest, but I want to be honest about my beliefs. I’m not religious, and I don’t believe in any gods or an afterlife. I find meaning in understanding the world through science and valuing the life I have here and now. I respect your beliefs, and I hope you can respect mine as well. Let’s focus on what we have in common and share positive conversations.
If you look and listen closely.... they follow Hitler's example perfectly.
Hitler warned the world of Zionist, he said they were the root cause of issues in the world. Then he went crazy on all Jews. But.... Zionist dehumanize Palestinians just like Hitler did, Zionist put Palestinians in concentration camp just like Hitler did, Zionist are on smear campaign just like Hitler did...
You are so wrong. A very important leader of the Palestinian movement was actually allies and friends with Hitler and a lot of Nazis. His name is Amin al-Husseini, mufti of Jerusalem.
His arrogance and sense of superiority is outstanding.
Someone is sensitive lol.
@@MrUniversalLanguage101 oh really. It’s not that I’m sensitive. I learned that you don’t get anywhere in life unless you call people out on there B.S
@@issamkholoud2009 🤣🤣🤣 ok Mr Sensitive. You also don't go anywhere in life being a sissy. Man up.
@@HJ-ev7hySure there’s also archaeological evidence of pagans living there. Romans. Persians. Etruscans. Phoenicians. So…? Archaeological evidence doesn’t mean a thing.
@@HJ-ev7hy The Jewish justification to colonize the Holy Land by force and ethnic cleansing cannot be based on archaeological evidence as there is equally evidence of many other peoples and civilizations there, in case my point wasn’t clear. Your other comments are witless ad hominems that don’t warrant a response beyond this.
fun facts.. Israel was actually given to Palestinians. just not the kind that this guy loves so much. as Palestinians were people who lives in an area called Palestine, not a country.... Palestinian people were Jewish, Muslim and Christian people who lived on that land... the British said since there is no governing country in the area, we will give it to the Jews to govern to have a homeland, all the other Palestinians had the right to stay and live there, most of them ran away because they were scared, and those who stayed still live in Israel till today happily ever after...
Free free 🇵🇸
End genocide. End apartheid. Free Palestine.
And do not do mischief on the earth, after it has been set in order, and invoke Him with fear and hope; Surely, Allah's Mercy is (ever) near unto the good-doers.(QS Al A'raaf:56)
And remember Moses prayed for water for his people; We said: "Strike the rock with thy staff." Then gushed forth therefrom twelve springs. Each group knew its own place for water. So eat and drink of the sustenance provided by Allah, and do no evil nor mischief on the (face of the) earth.(QS Al Baqarah:60)
Why Egypt refuse to open its boarders to Gazans refugees? It the same thing Turkey did at the start of the Syrian war. There must be a reason behind this
Because they're all weak
HOLD ON LET THE PEOPLE OF KEDAR REJOICE ??????
what does that mean to a muslim ?
@@jared2244
All they need is safe area , food and water.
@@akifshah "..you think that Egypt is like United snakes" What does one has to do with the other?
Playing dumb is not an excuse and isn't an argument 😂
Pray for palestine 🇯🇴🇯🇴🥺
1. Before Israel there was a British Mandate, not a Palestinian state 2. Before the British Mandate, it was the Ottoman Empire, not a Palestinian state. 3. Before the Ottoman Empire Was the Islamic State of the Mamluks of Egypt, not a Palestinian state. 4. Before the Islamic State of the Mamluks from Egypt, the Arab-Kurdish Empire was the Ayyubid, not a Palestinian state. 5. Before the Ayyubid Empire was the Frankish and Christian Kingdom of Jerusalem, not a Palestinian state. 6. Before the Kingdom of Jerusalem was the Umayyad and Fatimid empire, not a Palestinian state. 7. Before the Umayyad and Fatimid empires, the Byzantine Empire was not a Palestinian state. 8. Before the Byzantine Empire, there were Sassanids, not a Palestinian state. 9. Before the Sassanid Empire was the Byzantine Empire, not a Palestinian state. 10. Before the Byzantine Empire was the Roman Empire, not a Palestinian state. 11. Before the Roman Empire it was a Hasmonean state, not a Palestinian state. 12. Before the Hasmonean state was the Seleucid, not a Palestinian state. 13. Before the Seleucid Empire was the Empire of Alexander, not a Palestinian state. 14. Before Alexander's empire it was the Persian Empire, not a Palestinian state. 15. Before the Persian Empire was the Babylonian Empire, not a Palestinian state. 16. Before the Babylonian Empire were the kingdoms of Israel and Judah, not a Palestinian state. 17. Before the kingdoms of Israel and Judah, there was the kingdom of Israel, not a Palestinian state. 18. Before the Kingdom of Israel, the theocracy of the twelve tribes of Israel was not a Palestinian state. 19. Before the theocracy of the twelve tribes of Israel, there was an accumulation of independent Canaanite city-kingdoms, not a Palestinian state. This is the Ancestral homeland of the Jews, the Palestinians (term created in 1947) are Arab migrants from neighboring countries…
The king of Gerar ruled over the land of Negev where Abram came and settled as he existed Ur of Chaldeans. Gerar is Philistine... its always been their land, even before Abram. The British had no right to give what did not belong to them.
Palestinians are not the descendants of cananites
The Jew was clever to ask, What are the criteria of having a right over a land? The Muslim brother can not answer properly and evaded the question. And went on to ask different questions. So I ended watching the video. The Jew is just hearing rubbish questions and I admire him of his calmness and patience to entertain useless conversation.
Keeps dodging question coz he doesn’t know the answer 😂😂😂
Seems like the Muslim didn’t care for the land until it was developed under Israel.
Well done Guys.
Very Civilized Discussion.
The Blonde Guy Looks Innocent 😇 😮😢❤
"Use this box you have" line killed me
27:42
Why do palestinians believe THEY have right to OTOMAN land ?
They never took offer to get land, israel did.
Prayers and love for the oppressed palastine peaple 🇵🇸 ❤❤ May Allah keep the doors of hell wide open for those who oppresse and treat peaple like dirt
Yes allah will open the doors of hell for his own people where allah is king 🤭
@@whateva2840 yes evils 😈 get away
Even UN(various religions/Countries) approve ISREAL on 1948, Arab Muslim contries attacked on Isreal. That is first wrong of Arab Muslim countries and they shouldnt involve. Isreal also wrong due they never follow up UN. Both of them are wrong.
Anyway, we all must agree the development of ISREAL country due UN approved.
The colonial British Empire gave away land that dont belong to them without consent of the people living there then, the Palestinians. Imagine the outrage if the Palestinians gave away Wales for Jewish settlement or the Red Indians gave away New York for Jewish settlement. The Israeli now occupied Palestine, Israel could choose to be a better host and treat the Palestinians with Godly grace, kindness and fairness. But the Israeli instead choose to abused and kill them, forcefully takes land, homes and property without compensation, killing their children and women. and when the men take up arms to retaliate after 75 years of brutal occupation. Israel the occupier cries 9/11 and slaughter 4000 Palestinians children, that us 100 Palestinians children for every Israeli children. Equate that to US population that will be 250,000 American children and US still refused a Ceasefire.
SubhanAllah Wal hamdulillah Wa la ilaha illallahu Wallahu Akhbar...!!!
You all, our brothers sisters, who brave themselves to do dawah voluntarily on the streets and everywhere on earth, with sincerity, your own efforts and willingness, are the best among the Ummah. We love you all. We therefore seek mercy and help from Allah SWT to grant our brothers and sisters with the strength, courage, bravery and good health, to bring the messages of our Rasulullah Mohammed PBUH to all mankind and grant you all, our brothers and sisters, with a place in Jannah. Aamiin Yarobbil Aalamiin 🕌 🌙 🤲🤲🤲 💖 🌹
Samalulabaladala ding dong
Ameen
قال سبحانه: {أَفَتُؤْمِنُونَ بِبَعْضِ الْكِتَابِ وَتَكْفُرُونَ بِبَعْضٍ فَمَا جَزَاءُ مَنْ يَفْعَلُ ذَلِكَ مِنْكُمْ إِلَّا خِزْيٌ فِي الْحَيَاةِ الدُّنْيَا وَيَوْمَ الْقِيَامَةِ يُرَدُّونَ إِلَى أَشَدِّ الْعَذَابِ وَمَا اللَّهُ بِغَافِلٍ عَمَّا تَعْمَلُونَ (85) أُولَئِكَ الَّذِينَ اشْتَرَوُا الْحَيَاةَ الدُّنْيَا بِالْآَخِرَةِ فَلَا يُخَفَّفُ عَنْهُمُ الْعَذَابُ وَلَا هُمْ يُنْصَرُونَ} (البقرة:85،86) صدق الله العظيم
The goal shouldn't be to win the argument. the goal should be understanding on both sides
We are some who have researched these things for many years and already know the evil of zionism and what it has brought.
One side is telling the truth the other side is dishonest and dealing with cognitive dissonance
@@ramzichouk4080 so why even try?
@@southphillyspud31 for the people to understand that one side is not reasonable, racist with sociopathic and psychopathic tendencies
They gave us a "white" Jesus so they can justify that they are Jews
tq for the dakwah Shamsi.
Who agrees that land belong to Palestine.
Bro doesn't want to answer a question lol ...😊
On that day the Lord made a covenant with Abram and said, "To your descendants I give this land, from the Wadi of Egypt to the great river, the Euphrates - the land of the Kenites, Kenizzites, Kadmonites, Hittites, Perizzites, Rephaites, Amorites, Canaanites, Girgashites and Jebusites." - Genesis 15:18-21.
@@GODOURSALVATION. I got leaves of papyrus dating 12000 yrs saying the entire continent was property of the pharon
@@DrEpic123 pls share
@@DrEpic123 12000 yrs ago, good joke, who's pharon?
@@GODOURSALVATION. u know . Let's not focus on the mosquito on the elephant's tail .. the big violet elephant is why ... why our leaders trying to kick off ww3 !!! Sure they don't care for Jews or Muslims or human rights .. why . Why now 🤔🤔🤔
He proved his point with the Quran by sqying in his own book that the land was given to Ireal.
1947 Palestine give you land to stay refuse people….
On that day the Lord made a covenant with Abram and said, "To your descendants I give this land, from the Wadi of Egypt to the great river, the Euphrates - the land of the Kenites, Kenizzites, Kadmonites, Hittites, Perizzites, Rephaites, Amorites, Canaanites, Girgashites and Jebusites." - Genesis 15:18-21.
Their proof is only this ayat...
QS 5:20-21 "And ˹remember˺ when Moses said to his people, “O my people! Remember Allah’s favours upon you when He raised prophets from among you, made you sovereign,1 and gave you what He had never given anyone in the world. O my people! Enter the Holy Land which Allah has destined for you ˹to enter˺. And do not turn back or else you will become losers."
Good job👍👍👍
He is talking about who gave rights to take over Palestine because the Muslins control Palestine for 1000 years. The same questions should be asked ,who gave rights to the Muslins to control Palestine for 1000 years? Who gave rights to the Muslins who enslaved millions for over 400 years?
It's essential to acknowledge the deep historical roots of both the Palestinian and Jewish peoples in the region. The historical context of this conflict is intricate, spanning thousands of years. The indigenous Canaanites, Phoenicians, Philistines, and Israelites all have historical connections to the land.
Throughout history, the region has witnessed various kingdoms and empires, with the Babylonian conquest of the Kingdom of Judah in 586 BCE and the subsequent Persian era playing significant roles. The Romans, during the Jewish-Roman Wars, notably took control and named the area 'Palestine' after the adversaries of the Kingdom of Judah.
Over time, diverse populations have inhabited the region, including indigenous descendants of Canaanites, Phoenicians, Philistines, and Israelites. On the other hand, modern Israel consists of a more diverse population, including Jewish converts with varying ancestral ties.
It's important to differentiate between the historical and cultural dimensions of the conflict and the political issues at hand. While some Orthodox Jews can trace their lineage to the Israelites, the current situation is a complex interplay of politics, history, and competing claims to the land.
In my view, a fair and just resolution should consider historical connections and shared heritage, with respect for the rights and aspirations of both Palestinians and Israelis. Such an approach could potentially lead to a more peaceful and equitable future for all involved. One possible path could involve sharing the land, with Palestinians in the southern part that includes ancient Judea and Philistines territories, and give Israelis the northern part representing the historical Kingdom of Israel.
😂😂 shamsi almost punch him 😂
حفضك الله ورعاك لأخ شمسي
On that day the Lord made a covenant with Abram and said, "To your descendants I give this land, from the Wadi of Egypt to the great river, the Euphrates - the land of the Kenites, Kenizzites, Kadmonites, Hittites, Perizzites, Rephaites, Amorites, Canaanites, Girgashites and Jebusites." - Genesis 15:18-21.
@@GODOURSALVATION.the bible means nothing… its mostly written by anonymous people…
But lets say that we accept this verse for the sake of conversation. Do you think only the tribes of israel are abrahams descendants or are there other groups of people who are also the descendants of abraham?
@@HJ-ev7hywhy are you lying? You do realize that everyone can actually see the video and how he answered immediately…
And on top of that… the tribes of israel brought the anger of god upon themselves… they killed prophets and even worshipped false gods…
Even after witnessing the miracles of moses they still worshipped an idol…
Tell me, why do orthodox jews say that they are not allowed to govern their own country?
@@HJ-ev7hywhat are you talking about??? Who is “he” in he is the son of kush? You even gave timestamps and they were talking canaanites and jacob…
What are you on?
Shamsi is Algerian so they want to fight like Mohammed but sadly, Arabs are not good fighters, the boxing pound 4 pound list has NO ARAB MUSLIMS
Algamduliellah, as we say in south africa, kwaai, really enjoyed this well done brother
Mashallah shams is on point 👌
On that day the Lord made a covenant with Abram and said, "To your descendants I give this land, from the Wadi of Egypt to the great river, the Euphrates - the land of the Kenites, Kenizzites, Kadmonites, Hittites, Perizzites, Rephaites, Amorites, Canaanites, Girgashites and Jebusites." - Genesis 15:18-21.
@@GODOURSALVATION.Gigachad, Sigma Males, Chuck Norris
@@GODOURSALVATION.
Are you sure the verse authentically sounds like that ????
My land is my land.
Your land is my land.
It's up to me if I want to take your land. It is my right!!! You have no right to stop me.
I finally found my favourite channel on RUclips
They’re but one people. So much in common. Beautiful on a human level.
No they are not people in Israel was placed there after ww2
@@shhmatdelski8386Not talking about who’s right or wrong etc. Simply an observation of the similarities they share. Just like Pakistan and India 🫶🏻
imagine where We as a planet n species would be if the birthright wasn't permitted to be stolen by antisemites. Our planet n Our species n a story that So impacted it would have been based in a GOD Blessed unity of Arab n Hebrew.
but instead the deception of a dying Man(MPUH), the violation of Hebrew laws n traditions n Blatant theft of a birthright was permitted by the ruling class n an act of Extreme antisemitism was committed and Esau(MPUH) n his Mom(Abraham's(MPUH) 2nd Wife) were sent out into the desert to die horribly simply because they were Arab n half Arab n the Hebrews were allowed to be So openly antisemitic because they were the ruling class...............
sounds just like what's been happening n has been Amped up on a Completely inHuman n devilish lvl.
@@sapphireakaneeIt is not the same. Israel is an occupying country for the indigenous Palestinian population. They have been living in an open prison without any human rights for 75 years. If they say anything or do anything, they are killed, beaten, and expelled throughout these years. Read history and know it from before World War II. Israel does not exist throughout the decades just now only 75 years since its occupation. You can see the maps of the First and Second World Wars. There is no Israel, only Palestine.
@@user-ul2uy5ww5nLike I said, I was pointing out the commonalities between everyday Jews and Palestinians. It’s not a judgement on Israel being right whatsoever. Everyone who’s not brainwashed knows how the Zionists schemed and plotted their way to where they are today.
This guy doesn’t want to admit it’s NOT there LAND
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Allahuakbar !
Surah 5:19-21 Land belong to the people of Israel
They also had King David, King Solomon that also ruled over Israel in that same land.
There has not been any Palestine country or Kingdom(They are people from different tribes that migrated there during Ottoman Empire)
Jews never left that land all through, others dispersed one just joined them wanting to become a nation once again
I don't support any killing on both sides, I support peace, love and forgiveness which can only be found in Christ Jesus
@@Figs4Life BRAVO PALESTINE !!
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@@MYWRoso It's a myth that Israel is a Muslim territory.
Israel is historically Jewish territory according to the Bible and certain interpretations of contemporaneous archeology:
Joshua entered the land of Israel in 1400BC .
The kingdom of David was found around 1,000BC.
The Temple of Solomon was built in approximately 957BC.
The 2nd Temple was built in approximately 550BC.
The Hasmonean dynasty was founded in 166BC.
Jerusalem was destroyed in 70BC and the Jews exiled from Israel in
136CE after the defeat of the **Bar Kokhba revolt**.
The Romans in an attempt to shame the Jews, renamed the area Palestine as an insult after the Jews historic enemies the Philistines...
Even during the exile, there was continuous Jewish presence in the land.
Islam, which is the religion of the Palestinian Arabs, was not even founded until the 7th Century CE or AD.
No independent Arab state has ever existed in the area known as Palestine.
@@MYWRoso The question of whether Palestinians are the descendants of the Canaanites from the Bible is a topic of debate among historians, scholars, and theologians. While there are similarities between the ancient Canaanites and the modern Palestinians in terms of geographic location and cultural heritage, it is important to note that the issue is complex and cannot be definitively resolved.
The Canaanites were an ancient Semitic people who inhabited the region of Canaan, which includes present-day Israel, Palestine, and parts of surrounding territories. Over the centuries, various groups and empires have conquered and settled in the area, leading to a mixture of different ethnic and religious identities.
The modern Palestinian people are believed to have descended from a variety of ancient populations, including the Canaanites, Israelites, Persians, Assyrians, Greeks, Romans, Arabs, and others who have settled in the region throughout history. It is important to recognize that populations evolve, migrate, intermix, and develop new identities over time.
@MySilverDestiny Israel's Zionist enemies are Christians, Muslims and even Jews... PALESTINE is not an Islamic country! But those who are brave and persistent against Israeli Zionist tyranny are the Islamic majority Palestines!
I do have a Question for Muslim’s. Can you direct me in the Quran where the Prophet speaks of end time Prophecies concerning the World? And can you show me also any Prophecies a Particular Bloodline?
The true God YHWH gave Israel to Abraham and his descendants through Isaac forever. And God gave a warning in Genesis 12:3 -
"I wll bless those who bless you (Israel), and curse thse who curse you."
😁😂😁😂 so according to you, YHWH gave Palestine to the illegal white immigrants and occupiers from Poland, Ukraine, Russia and some other parts of the Europe. hmm you probably meant by YHWH the United States of America made UN.
I guess I'm cursed... phugg israel...
[Edited].. wasn't jesus a curse, according to the bible.
Through Isaac ah.. first prove bible is trust worthy. Because old testament was not written in Mosses pbuh time. So, it doesn't carry weight. You religion is vain and solidarity of Israel.
😂 wooooow! FYI most palestinians today are the decendants of the same jews that were forced to convert to Christianity by romans so they could stay in their lands. you fanatic ....
On that day the Lord made a covenant with Abram and said, "To your descendants I give this land, from the Wadi of Egypt to the great river, the Euphrates - the land of the Kenites, Kenizzites, Kadmonites, Hittites, Perizzites, Rephaites, Amorites, Canaanites, Girgashites and Jebusites." - Genesis 15:18-21.
He cant even answer his right to the land. Zionism is finished.
To see them get at it for Something that doesn’t belong to either One is Hilarious!
If only they knew the wrath upon them all!
How do you know it doesn't belong to either one?
If you can show me why you think it does! I can show you in the Torah where it doesn’t. But why do you think it does?
Is the Proof to who it belongs to in the Quran? Islam just like Christianity is a religion. Religion is from the Creator! Religion is men who follow gods and man. gods deceive man with knowledge. In turn man deceive one another to their own Demise. Those groups Validate themselves through False Teachings and False Religion. God’s Kingdom is a Nation established by a Covenant, held by Promises, foretold in Prophecy’s that cannot come back void. The Land and the People are One. The Land rejects those in the Land that is why there is no Peace! A mother who rejects her children is not a mother to those Children. A Mother who longs for her Children celebrates the Return of her children with Open arms. And all Celebrates with her.
@@as1israelkingdom4life who are the Canaanites?
Everything the Zionists did to the Palestinians were the same thing that they experienced during the holocaust and they are so PROUD of it
Wow.. I’m surprised at how fast their memory disappears.
Smoke em shamsi
On that day the Lord made a covenant with Abram and said, "To your descendants I give this land, from the Wadi of Egypt to the great river, the Euphrates - the land of the Kenites, Kenizzites, Kadmonites, Hittites, Perizzites, Rephaites, Amorites, Canaanites, Girgashites and Jebusites." - Genesis 15:18-21.
you see the way the jewish interacted with the palestinian. Palestinians do not want to believe they conquer the land too
Philistine artefacts and pottery is Greek influence 😂
On that day the Lord made a covenant with Abram and said, "To your descendants I give this land, from the Wadi of Egypt to the great river, the Euphrates - the land of the Kenites, Kenizzites, Kadmonites, Hittites, Perizzites, Rephaites, Amorites, Canaanites, Girgashites and Jebusites." - Genesis 15:18-21.
@@GODOURSALVATION. religious scripture isn't factual its mythology and it's not historically accurate. Abraham doesn't exist he is a fictional character like Jesus and the rest. Abraham = Abram = Aries, Abraham represents the age of Aries when the Jews emerged in Israel. Look it up, I can destroy every religion on this planet with facts and evidence. The proof is in anthropology and DNA.
the Palestine land not promised by God difinitly rewarded by Britain and and jews God father America
Wow. This guy is waffling. SubhanAllah
It doesn't matter debating about God and land. Throughout the history the most powerful had the control of things.
I feel like the Jew had the better of this he was giving some good answers, Jewish guy wasn't being rude or anything like that but for some reason, shams he kept losing his patience and getting annoyed I can't see why, the Jewish dude was only asking for clarification nothing wrong with that.
especially about the archaeological Jewish relics found that shams he just kind of wanted to gloss over.
And also when he asked shamsi to define what 'ownership' of the country means, shamsi immediately sensed he would be in a trap so he completely declined to answer that and changed the subject.
Only way to solve this mess as who lived there first? Philistine or Israelite?
and forget the true original occupiers the canaanites.
Clearly you are a supporter of a
Zionist Apartheid Racists Terrorist settlers Regime calling themselves ISRAHELL must leave the State of Phalastine with immediate effect 🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸
Shamsi wax not being rude and you don't understand the tactics of jews mate. Live with them and you'll see how clever and sly they are
Zionist fan identified.
The Palestinians are descendants of Canaanites.
Jews lived under peace with Muslims. Their problems were in Europe.
ok let's give away all the continents that were DISCOVERED just a few hundred years back, give Maoris Australasia back, the French should give whatever they occupied ,back...Ok? Is
You're insane fella.. May Allah guide you, back to Germany.
Shamsi my brother in Islam, I been watching your videos and I must acknowledge that I'm a fan. Brother watched your debate with Daniel , I was frustrated to see two Muslims brothers arguing unnecessarily just to prove egotistical points, when the non Muslims see us fighting among ourselves, they all just gonna keep laughing at us.
My advice for you is patience when arguing with non Muslims and stop debating our Muslims brothers and sisters , it doesn't look good for the Ummar .. brother you very smart and I sincerely prayed to the Almighty Allah grants you more knowledge and wisdom as continued sharing the good news of Islam, may Allah protects you from any that might seeks to harm u.
The two-state solution is the answer that the land must be divided equally between the people of Canaan and Israel, two adjacent sovereign states, so there is no more bloodshed .
The two state solution idea is dead, as the Zionists want all of the land and they don’t believe Palestine even exists such is their warped ideology.
The Jews' ancestors have lived in those lands thousands of years even before the Arabs. It is their lands.
Why do Zimbabweans have rights over Rhodesia? BECAUSE ITS THEIR COUNTRY AND THEY WERE THERE FIRST!!!
My heart goes out to the Palestinians who just want to go work, provide for their family and watch their children play in the park.
Instead of using the $40 billion of aid received between 1994 and 2020 (source: Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development) to improve infrastructure, energy and water supplies, the funds were used to implement Hamas's charter (I.e. from the river to the sea). Hamas/Fatah/Palestinian Authority should have jumped at the opportunity for multiple peace deals (i.e. see failed Oslo accords) where more than 90% of their demands would have been met. Instead, Palestinian Authority left the table.
What should be done at this point? If Hamas cared about its people more than implementing its charter to eliminate Jews from Israel, it would share its stockpiled water with its citizens. It should also stop firing rockets and return hostages. Israel would then turn on water (note that only 10% of water has historically been supplied by Israel - the remaining 90% came from groundwater wells operated by the Palestinian water authority).
When this round of violence is over, Palestinians should ensure they vote in a party with a charter that includes the desire for economic growth and prosperity for all and excludes the provision to eliminate Jews from Israel.
I agree with you, but who knows if they'll ever get chance to elect anyone else.
@@ianclose123 Thanks so much for your reply!
Israel will uproot Hamas. Palestinians in Gaza will get a fresh start. Leaders of the Free Palestine movement and future leaders of Palestinians in Gaza should not repeat the same mistakes as last time.
Rather than pointing fingers at Israel / the West / everyone else and wallow in the mire resulting from wars the Arabs lost in 1948, 1967, 1973, etc. and other poor decisions made by the Palestinian Authorities, the leadership of the Free Palestine movement (inside and outside Gaza) should assist in rebuilding Gaza - not just physically but sociologically (if that's the right word).
Instead of simply shouting/marching, the leadership should encourage the Palestinians to learn about democratic values, economic prosperity and transparency. Tangible (simple) steps could include removing references to Jihadism/Jew-hatred from school textbooks. Instead, textbooks should promote/embrace economic prosperity and freedom for all and to treat others as they would like to be treated.
If the current leadership of the Free Palestine movement decides to acknowledge / accept some (or all) responsibility resulting from the previous Palestinian Authorities' ineptitude/corruption, this might end well. Otherwise, history will repeat itself. And violence will beget violence.
You fight for land and the winners get it that’s how you get land and that’s why most wars were fought
The first thing is peace ✌️🕊️ and 💕😘 love ❤
I salute this kid he was not intimidated by your loud voice you barely let him speak 😂
That’s how he is ….he ran from Bob 😂😂
What’s not clear here? The British conquered Palestine. Then they decided to give it to the Jews... Türkiye conquered Byzantium. Now they can give it to the Palestinians. Why is there a dispute?
PROOF FROM BIBLE JESUS WAS MUSLIM:*
👉Muslim means the one who submits his will to God.
*“I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my judgment is just; because I seek not mine own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent me.”*
(John 5:30)
👉Read the word of Jesus (Peace Be Upon Him). He is saying,
*I seek not my own will, but the will of my father which has sent me.*
This verse is clear in the Bible which proves that Jesus (PBUH) was a Muslim.
The fact that Jesus taught the same religion that had been presented by Moses and the other Prophets is supported even by the existing Gospels.
For example, according to the Gospel of Matthew, Jesus declared in the Sermon on the Mount:
*"Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the Prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil."* (5:17)
👉 [Jesus said],
*“And indeed, Allah is my Lord and your Lord, so worship Him. That is a straight path.”*
Qur’an 19: 36
👉But when Jesus felt [persistence in] disbelief from them, he said,
*“Who are my supporters for [the cause of] Allah?”*
The disciples said,
*We are supporters for Allah. We have believed in Allah and testify that we are Muslims [submitting to Him].*
Qur’an (3:52)
What gives rights to land?
1.He buys the land with this own hard earned cash.
2.He is born in that land and get his livelihood from that land.
3.He enherits that from his parents or grandparents.
There is nothing in the Bible that says you have the right over Palestine.
When were people who call themselves Israeli , carried away captive into all nations? Didn't happen to those people. The land belongs to Judah , the so called African American
The Israel Palestine conflict has nothing to do with religion, the fighting is over land.
If a army conquers a land, that land will be of the conquer untill it looses that land. This was before international laws and is also still after.
Israeli jews are majority Europeans.
This our land story is absolute nonsense.
FREE PALESTINA... 🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸
Everybody knows who's land it is, but most are afraid to talk about it. The almighty God has already revealed it in his word. There are Laws to keep the truth hidden.
They claimed that they lived there 3000 years ago. But at that time, there were other people there. So before that where did they live?
The answer is they came from Egypt, Moses brought them there, and before that they came from Babylon which is now Iraq. Why do they not want to live there?
One Human life on any side. NOT worth for a piece of Land.
It’s the Holy Land and it belongs to all who want to worship there. However, the Jewish people have been there for over 5,000 years long before there was a Christianity or the Muslim faith.
I absolutely loved this. Both these guys were great! @20:03 From a secular , non religious point of view, the Jews and the Canaanites were the same people. The Canaanites worshiped many gods. The two names for the Jewish God, Yaweh and/or Elohim were 2 of those Canaanite gods. Hebrew is a Canaanite language. Customs like the Mikvah baths are ancient Canaanite customs. Somewhere along the line there was a division between the people who lived there , and those who believed in only one god shunned those who still believed in many. The story of the Jews, Abraham and how they conquered Canaanites etc. became the oral folk lore passed down from generation to generation until King Josiah in the 7BCE ordered scribes to write the folk lore down. This would became the 5 books of the Torah. Ps I repeat this is a secular perspective with no disrespect to any religious people.
In religious books it is said that when Jews came Palestine there were pealready living there. Historians think they were canaanites. Where Canaanites came is not confirmed. Even Palestinians are believed to be decent of them
O DNA dos palestinos é muito mais recente e nada tem haver com os antigos Cananeus. Segundo, Abraão comprou as terras, ele não as invadiu nem as tomou. Terceiro, quando seus descendentes voltaram do Egito para Canaã tiveram de expulsar os povos que haviam tomado suas terras. Depois disso, mesmo com os domínios Babilônicos, Persas, Gregos, Romanos, Mulçumanos, Turcos, e Ingleses, sempre tiveram presença de população Judia. É a população residente a mas tempo nessa região.
@@s.s.m9936 that's a fat lie, cite your source
@@winnersfootballtv5517 I said religious books. Go search yourself the religious books of Ibrahimic religions.
Palestinians come from the Canaanites too
They were put there under the Balfour declaration
No one owns anywhere! This is the earth and all the boundaries are only created by humans
In the same argument once British took over who have you the Muilims the right to claim Palestine..
The jews were there first. The Romans kicked the jews out and named that area Palestine. Palestinians have no claim to that area since its not a state.
Most Muslims dont even know that Abraham and Moses were Jewish.
Ask the Palestinians & the Israelis to show graves of their ancestors let's see how many generations of Palestinian graves are present & how many are Israelis graves.
You'll find more that are Palestinian mate. How many ppl you seen died in Israel compared to the amount that have died in Palestine
All the Jewish registry records were destroyed in 70 CE. How can he trace his family back?
They purchased the land at 4 times the going rate at the time. They transformed the land, deserts, into modern liveable areas. They acquired the land twice, in 1948 and 1967 from winning these wars in accordance with international law. Does that answer your stupid question?
the young people do no understand. british government went to palastine and in 1948 the british said the jewish people could go to palestine and have land and stay. ever since then palestininians have been persecutted !!!!
Modern day Israelis aren't indigenous, here's the meaning of indigenous-
'Inhabiting or existing in a land from the earliest times or from before the arrival of
colonists"
They are the European colonisers and
Palestinians have been in the same spot for many millennia. Modern day Jews don't even plot close to ancient Canaanite DNA samples too,
far from it as they plot closer to Ukrainians!
Palestinians, Lebanese, Druze, Iraqis
Jordanians etc.. plot extremely close as they
are the "true indigenous" people and in the
Torah it states that "the Jewish People
will be vomited out by the land if they do not
live up to the moral standards that God
requires". I don't think the Torah condones
ethnic cleansing of the indigenous
Palestinians, or does it? So the Canaanites are the true indigenous people and the people i mentioned earlier are the true descendants of the Canaanites who have been living there for 1000's of years, unlike the modern day Europeans. End of story ✌️
I think we should have the land, we'd do a better job than both of them!
Moses was a Jew and not a Muslim or Christian.
Shamsi is dragging this Jewish brother into his own answers.
You can't ask questions and you want people to give you the answers that you want.
That is not a discussion.
Basically, the brother that got beat up turned around and beat up the brother that helped him when he was down.....
Jesus was born in Bethlehem (2000+ years ago) and there were tons of Jews in Bethlehem even then. Not sure I understand how Muzlims who took over a land originally owned by Jews and ask why are Jews back again?
The funny thing is, is that we Jews do not believe in Jesus Christ or 'Yeshua'. We are taught that it Yeshua was a completely fabricated lie. So 🤷 The only bases that we have is that we take from the Christians Bible that God promised us this land. Which is so bizarre because in the Torah it doesn't mention anything about God giving this land, at all. Now in ancient times we did have a stronghold in the land of Canaan. But we never had all of Canaan to ourselves 🤷
Also, we as Jews are not permitted to return to Holy Land until our Messiah returns. Our Torah tells us that it is a SIN to return to the stronghold of Israel without first a Messiah returning. So 🤷 I do not understand where modern Jews get these ideas from 🤷 Unless BB rewrote the Torah 😒