During Covid I had so much freetime I rigged up a jig to hold my blades in place and a wicked edge/ edge pro style sharpening system and was basically putting knife edges on my blades. I had three sets that I changed out weekly and was mowing like every other day. That was the best my lawn has ever looked. Those were the days. Bring back covid.
Greetings from Canada! Just ordered the 5005 Gen 2 with the honda adapter kit to upgrade my small business. I searched a lot for a good product that would last for the rest of my life and that I could give to my child. Proud to support our hard working neighbors. Thanks for all the videos and take care!
Project Farm did a review about a week ago. Demonstrated your product very well. Should see an uptick in sales. LOL Great product AND Made in U.S.A. MAkes quick work of sharpening blades.
Thanks Pete! We're glad to hear that. There is definitely a positive side effect of wanting to sharpen your blades more often, ha ha! We appreciate your business and support.
After researching all the different blade sharpeners out there I bought this one because its well made portable and nearly foolproof and affordable.Mine does a great job Todd and had all four grinder pins with it so no worries there about having the right one.Thanks Jim F. from PA.
Been watching several videos on how to sharpen a lawnmower blade. From each one I gained a new piece of knowledge. From you I learned that there is a regular blade and a mulching blade. Had no idea that was a thing. But thank you for mentioning this as my mower is a mulching mower. Had no idea my blade is different from the guy next door. I gave you a “like” and subscribed.
That's great to hear! If you have any questions as you're getting set up, you can reach out to support@allamericansharpener.com, or call the Customer Support number at the bottom of our website.
What a great product !!! The wife ordered the 505 model on Thursday afternoon and we received it Monday afternoon.(would have been sooner but UPS don’t do weekends lol ) I was able to set it up and decided to try it out on some Land Pride finish mower blades I had in the shop. Was able to get the blades brought back to a decent cutting edge again. Then I sharpened the blade on my Toro push mower with fantastic results!!!!! cuts like a new mower !! Getting ready to do my Ferris next ! Easy to use,made in the USA ! What a great product the All American Sharpener is.
Thanks for your business and your comment! It's good to hear you are happy with the results. We hope and expect your 5005 will serve you well for many years.
we have a yard care company, and have at least four blades a week to sharpen it takes a lot of time to do this. This looks quick and repeatable. Going to get three of these!!!
Bought this a couple months ago and wanted to use and give honest review. Excellent product. Well built and very well thought out. Have the honda adapter and it work's excellent. Reasonable price and excellent customer service. Replacement parts are cheap and easily available although I think it would need a lot of abuse before you needed any replacement parts.
Rebecca Machado We really appreciate you taking the time to give us feedback. And of course we're glad your experience has been positive! We hope it will last you for generations.
Todd, ordered the 5005ext with Honda adapter and received it in 2 days, I just couldn’t wait to test your product out. Instructions were very clear and precise. The product material is first class you can tell a lot of time went into this and it will last a life time, I pulled my Honda blades out and went to work and oh my what a difference, I have been paying between $10 and $13 to have one blade sharpened (Honda has 2 blades), so $20 out the door, your product is awesome and makes it so easy. I just love it--- ps. The guys sharpening my blades was just tearing them up not very sharp and not at factory 30 degrees angle.
Roy - Thank you very much for the feedback and compliments! You're exactly the kind of person our sharpeners are made for, and I appreciate you taking the time to leave a comment.
So I ordered this last week and received it two days later. Setup was very straightforward and it came with four pins so there was one that fit my old Skil grinder. The build quality is excellent and looks like it should last for many years. It's easy to use and does a awesome job of sharpening the blades. Always used a bench grinder before and never could get the angles right but not a problem now with this sharpener.
I contacted the company and the developer himself; Todd responded in under 30 minutes. He clearly answered my question. This is an exceptional product and a blessing guys!!!!!
Here is some valuable information that worked for me and may work for anyone using the All American 5005 and the following blades: HONDA HRX17: W159671(UPPER BLADE) 30deg; W159977(LOWER BLADE) 35deg with All American adapter installed. John Deere: M154062(BAGGING/HIGH LIFT BLADE) 40deg; M149422(MULCHING BLADE) low outer edges 30deg, raised inner edges 25deg; GY20850(STANDARD 3-IN-1) low outer edges 35deg, raised 15deg.🤓
Thanks for the feedback. We know that angle settings vary with blade geometry and wear, but it's helpful to hear specific information from our terrific customers! Wishing you many years of great service from your 5005!
bought one of these sharpeners a couple of years ago,works great, fast , always cuts correct angle,great tool.saves time, and money, because you don't grind any more than you have too.
Thanks very much for your comment and compliment! We're glad you are happy with your 5005, and we hope it is a tool that gives you years of great service. We are grateful to have you as a customer, and we appreciate your support.
I can attest to the sheer (design) genius of this sharpener. I use a Norton 980 ceramic abrasive fiber disc on my grinder with it (over the usual flap discs) and this sharpener hones my blades with ridiculous precision! The 5000 model works like a charm, but if you're in doubt, get the 5005 model. You'll thank yourself for years to come.
I literally ordered after seeing this video on Monday 6-3-19 around 2 pm. Looked interesting and tired of paying $7 blade and drive time to shops. Research magna and $700 or $200 + $30 grinder + $ 4 flap disc. Worth trying. Simply awesome from start to finish. Arrived today around Noon, texts confirmation and order, delivery Time, etc All Exceeding my Expectations So far. Servicing equipment and it arrived, Installation on bench and was done sharpening 21 mulch blades razor sharp in 30 minutes. Superior Quality, So Simple to Use, And Well worth the Price. Thanks for sharing, being American Made and Completely Functionally upon Arrival. I appreciate it. High Quality Innovation for Sure for us LCO’s. #smithlawnscapesbyrandysmith #northlakeland #lawncare #america
Sweet! That is exactly what we like to hear! Thanks for the testimonial. We appreciate your business, and that you took the time to post your thoughts.
I've seen a bunch of blade sharpening guides, this appears to be the simplest version and most accurate by far with for mulching blades and with a common hand grinder. A nice straightforward presentation.
I was a farmer. We would use hard surface welding rods, and where ever the metal would wear on subsoiler feet, and shanks . We added the hard surface. I started my own lawn service. I use one set of blades to see where they wore down the most. So where they wore. I added hard surface, which included the cutting edge . When I sold the riding tractor. Those blades were still on the mower. Give it a try.
Hey guys, just used this jig for the first time. I promise you this company is not paying me a dime for this review. This thing has got to be in my opinion the best thing since sliced bread; I really mean it!. I'm not even a professional commercial landscaper and I sharpened my blades to the point where it sliced through the grass and made the prettiest cuts I've ever seen in my life. I purchased the model 5000 EXT Keep up the good work all American Sharpener!!!
I mow an acre of thick tall fescue with two passes from opposing directions with a 60" zero turn. Consequently I need to sharpen and balance three mulching blades every 4th time I mow. This season I mow twice a week sometimes with all the rain. So far I've sharpened three blades 6 times times this year to keep my lawn looking professionally maintained. Recently I've been asked to sharpen mower blades for neighbors. I can't justify the expensive Oregon or similar sharpening setups. Nor have I ever been satisfied with the results of sharpening the mulching blades with a bench grinder. I like the simplicity of the design and fact I can get an almost razor sharp edge on a mulching blade with the right grinding disc. I'll be ordering one soon.
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For me as a new customer this is the best video for me to learn how to mount and use it. I bought the 05 version. This is an elegantly simple design. I need to remember to position the angle correctly. Forgot that the first time and I was grinding at the wrong angle. Oops. I know you covered it but I missed it.
I’ve been in business for 18 yrs doing lawn care work trust me this is awesome and it’s also safer for employees to use!!!! You need to talk about how much safer it is to use verses holding it without the setup !!!!
My thoughts on this item? 1 - Shipping was lightning fast. I ordered Wednesday evening, and it was at my door Friday morning. 2 - The item was packaged very good, and had all hardware required to assemble along with very clear instructions on how to use the jig 3 - The quality of this product rivals anything I've seen to date. Solid and straight cut aluminum with chamfered and relieved edges gives the product a solid feel - and for the tool aficionado, it is very easy on the eyes, almost like a work of art. 4 - Assembly and installation of the jig on my work bench was very straight forward. So much so that any novice would be hard pressed to get lost installing this jig. 5 - It works GREAT! I had four sets of blades that the 30 degree edge was long lost from hand grinding. After using this jig on them, they look as good as new and has a nice sharp edge - ready to cut any lawn. I'd recommend this item to anyone that is serious about maintaining their personal lawn to the professional that does landscape as a business, or even to a small shop owner that reconditions lawnmower blades for profit.
Wow. What a generous testimonial. We really do appreciate your comment/praise. And we're even more happy that you like it as much as you do. Connecting with like-minded people has been an unexpected benefit from putting our products on the market. And it feels really good. Thanks very much for taking the time to share your thoughts!
Todd, I purchased your 5005. I have the G6 Gator blades. I decided to purchse the devuce as I don't have confidence with the mower shop , nor myself. Excellent quailty. This video was a blessing before I use the unit. Best Always.
Well, it sure impressed me, so I went to his website and bought the Model 5000, because I have 3 mulching blades in my Exmark 52-inch Radius zero-turn mower. I also bought some 40-grit flap discs for my DeWalt D28402 grinder (his grinder looks like the grinder I have). If I remember, I'll return and give my impression when I've used his jig a few times.
Just what I need but a little to price for me. This is my 2 seasons on my landscaping/lawncare business and this will be a great tool to sharpen my equipment blades.
Feedback on my new 5005. I Consider it a winner. I finally was able to sharpen a blade from my Woods 60” ZTR. It worked great. I found my blades are angled at 45 degrees. I need to sharpen and balance several blades so I will be switching over to a standard grinding wheel.
Just ordered mine today and I’m stoked. I’m sure I’ll figure out what I need to do with my mulch : gator blades but they appear to have a 30 degree and a 15 degree. I ordered the 5005 gen 2 so I’m sure I’ll just have to play with the settings to see how it needs to be ground. I do appreciate you showing how to grind half the transition at a time. I think that was another thing I found confusing.
Awesome! Thank you for your business and support! If you haven't seen it already, below is a link to a video showing the process we use when we are trying to determine the best angle settings on an unfamiliar blade. It might give you some more ideas as well. ruclips.net/video/YQd8xbZgkq0/видео.html
This absolutely would be a perfect and necessary tool for someone who has a lawn mowing business. For your average home owner however, I struggle with the cost justification to purchase this awesome tool. This is pure genius!! Thanks for your time to share this information, much appreciated!
Thank you for your compliment! We appreciate it. And we understand, it's not for everyone. It really comes down to how often you sharpen your mower blades, how many you have to sharpen, and whether you pay someone to have them sharpened. For some homeowners, the long term savings for this one time purchase makes sense. For others, it does not. Again, thank you for your interest.
@ All American Sharpener , thanks for your reply. Thanks for understanding my point. I am considering purchasing maybe later. ( I have your information now) Perhaps I can provide a service to the community for a nominal fee :) I also want to say that I have read a bunch of reviews and all seem to indicate that this product is high quality and well made. Please don’t sacrifice either of these to make the product cheaper, like so many other products have done. Respect and best wishes.
Thank you. We appreciate your kind words. And we have no intention of reducing quality. We will always want this to be a product that will last a lifetime, and be handed down to future generations. Best wishes to you as well.
True, but homeowners don’t sharpen their blades nearly as often as they should. Around here it cost ten bucks a blade to sharpen. I think it will pay for itself in the long run.
I bought one and love it. I’m constantly wanting to sharpen blades any chance I get now. I did buy a g5 gator blade setup and noticed the factory degree is 35 instead of 45 so I’m glad I saw this video. Always go with the factory angle
GrassDaddy did a review of this product, and it grabbed my attention. I've been grinding by hand for the past couple of years, and I replace the blades each year because hand grinding without a jig wrecks them as I am not very precise. After watching your videos, I took the leap and purchased one. I look forward to getting mine and getting a good grind on my blades.
We saw the video, and were happy to be included in his testing. If you have any questions about our sharpeners, and which model would be best suited to your needs, please reach out via email to support@allamericansharpener.com or call us at 419-823-7787.
Thanks! I will be ordering one very soon. I do mine by hand but I notice that my angle is moving towards 45 deg slowly. This will eliminate that creeping angle. Just what I've been looking for.
Just dawned on me. My blades are mulching blades and I would surmise that the blades cut the grass particles flying around in the deck again and again, now just once. Sorry about the “too quick” question on having to sharpen the raised section of the mulching blade. JoeB
Not a problem on the question. As you have pointed out, the inside raised cutting section does have some value. It is there to redirect airflow and help chop up the already once cut mower blades. But we do agree that the most important cutting section of the blade is the outside 2 or 3 inches. That's where all the original cutting action happens. Thanks for your comments!
I love it. I have 5 acres and use a riding mower as well as a brush hog with tractor. Do you think I could modify the blade holder so I could hold my brush hog blades in place to sharpen them with your jig too?
Hi John. We have had some customers who have been able to adapt or modify their jig to work with their brush hog blades. But, in general, we cannot recommend it. Our jigs are very sturdy, but only meant for mower blades. We fear that many brush hog blades are just a bit too hefty for the device. One day down the road we may develop a larger jig that is meant for brush hog blades. Thank you for your interest!
Using a grinder takes off a LOT of material making balancing more difficult. I sharpen my blades several times a season in a vise, using a 40-grit flapper wheel on a drill. Blade is razor sharp and I never have to worry about balancing.
I just watched your video. After checking out your website, I see that I live 10minutes from you. I will have to stop by. Looks like an awesome product!
Thank you! Not to discourage a visit, but our shop isn't very customer friendly at this time. Mostly due to everyone working to keep up with orders. Maybe give us a call first at 419-823-7787 before stopping over. Thanks for your interest!
I just received my 5005 sharpener a few days ago. My first reaction as I was unpacking it was it was a bit pricey for what you get. After setting it up and sharpening the first set of blades I was shocked how far off my hand sharpened blades were from the 30 degrees the blades needed to be. We mow about 3 acres a week around our property and the blades I sharpened with he 5005 cut like brand new blades and the yard looks amazing. I have already sharpened one of my spare set of blades and have another set that will be sharpened soon. I am now convinced it is a great buy and concept. I would purchase it again with no hesitation.
Thanks for your honest feedback about our sharpener. Our intention was to build a tool that would simplify efficiently maintaining a consistent sharp edge on blades. We're happy that you've had great results already, and hope and expect this tool will serve you for many years.
This looks like a great product! I just placed an order for the 5005. I'm hoping it works with my DeWalt cordless grinder. Also I couldn't help but notice your desk in the background. I have the same, have had since the 70s (still using). Looking forward to finally retiring my manual file and drill grinder.
That's awesome, Bob! We haven't run into a DeWalt cordless in the 4-5" size that doesn't work with our system. Please reach out if you have any questions once you receive your 5005 to support@allamericansharpener.com. We're grateful for your business!
I so need this...I cannot maintain an angle by hand even if my life depends on it. Word of advice, make something like this but for knives. I have an ESEE izula 2 that needs to be sharpened but finding a quality knife sharpener person is hard to find around here.
I have wrestled with blade sharpening for decades. Always "just OK"....but never the end results I wanted. Outstanding looking solution and product. Got to get me one...today! One question....can the All American also be used to sharpen the much heavier bush hog, tractor- type mower blades?
Thank you for your enthusiasm about our sharpeners! We have put some thought into a possible design for alternate blades, but the project hasn't gone beyond that yet. We have had some customers who were able to adapt their 5005 to work with bush hog blades, but in general, we still do not recommend it with our current jigs. Thanks for checking in with us about it. I can't make any promises for a product in the near future, but it is something that is still on our radar.
@@AllAmericanSharpener many thanks for your very quick response. I will be following your efforts to design/release a jig specifically intended for tractor mower bush-hog type blades. I have a huge need as I am certain others out there do also.
I was just online reviewing all your current models...their uses and benefits. Looks like the 5005 is the "Cat's Meow" for my current needs. With 3 different mowers using 3+ different blades, I think it would be my best choice. Will be ordering it today. Thanks again for your very timely response to my inquiry.
Hi Darren. Yes, we have "EXT" models with that added ability. See this video for details. ruclips.net/video/RxLYASrwiCw/видео.html We've also introduced a new Model 5005 with multiple angles adjustments. This model also has an 'EXT" verion for left-hand discharge blades. ruclips.net/video/zdnjOYnEe2Y/видео.html Thanks for your interest!
Can it sharpen Left hand blades? For years Simplicity, used Left hand blades. John Deere, Walker, Roper, Wheel Horse, Woods, Jacobsen, Yard-Man and many other used Left hand blades on there rear discharge deck.
Yes, you can sharpen left hand blades as well. Please see the link below in this comment for a video showing how that is done. Thank you for your question! ruclips.net/video/AmlqcATxdAQ/видео.html
I was reading the first comment, which I thought contained EXCELLELENT advice. Then I looked closer and I saw that I wrote it, three years ago! Some further advice: 1. The most important thing about sharpening a lawnmower blade is not getting the edge at exactly the right angle. The most important thing is to sharpen the blade OFTEN. In my experience, the blade always needs sharpening! 2. To sharpen the blade often the critical thing is to have the tools needed readily available. For my MTD mower, there is one central bolt holding the blade on and two supporting bolts, one on each side. Therefore, I have a separate tool kit with the two wrenches I need to extract the two small bolts, and one wrench to loosen and tighten the main bolt. I also have a purpose designed blade holder that holds the blade steady so that the bolts can be tightened or loosened without moving the blade. That's a luxury, but one I bought years ago, so why not use it? I have a piece of concrete to use to hold the mower back against the ground. exposing the blade. It's always in the same place, so it's always available. I roll the mower over a piece of tarp, so that bolts wont get lost if they drop --- avoiding having them fall in the grass. Finally, I do my mower sharpening at the entrance to my basement, the bottom of the stair well. The mower is about three feet above the floor of the basement, which is a convenient height to work on removing and replacing the blade. I use a hand file to sharpen, unless there is a significant ding. If there is, that gets cleaned up on a bench grinder and then filed as I sharpen the rest of the blade. I have two blades, and will often remove one blade and replace it with the second, already sharpened blade. I then sharpen the second blade when convenient. In short, I have the tools I need readily available and a procedure that makes blade sharpening easy and fast. That encourages frequent blade sharpening ---an important trick to keeping your mower effective.
Thanks Lou! Yes, the mounting bracket can be turned around and clamped in a vise without any issue. You can see a demonstration of this in the video at the link below. ruclips.net/video/77Qg3cVc_f4/видео.html
Yes, mulching blades are no problem for the 5005. The angle of the jig adjusts from 15 to 45 degrees, in 5 degree increments, and is designed to accommodate just about any blade geometry. Reach out anytime at support@allamericansharpener.com for more in depth questions regarding your particular blades.
I ordered the 5005 2 months ago and never have received it, turns out the company was bogus I got ripped. Anyway I just ordered one direct from you and am excited to try it out. But you need to know there are companies out there doing this sort of thing claiming to sell your product . I"ve also heard they"re advertising your product and selling cheap copies I suppose this happens alot. Hope to try this thing out soon I have alot of blades to sharpen. Tony from Ohio
Hi Tony. We're sorry to hear that. It is something that seems to be on the rise. These "companies" are overseas so they are able to avoid any litigation, and they are nearly impossible to track down. When one of their websites is shut down, another identical one pops up under a different website domain. Rest assured that we see your order with us, and our shipping team will have it ready for the carrier to pick up from our factory Monday afternoon. We are grateful for your business.
Honestly, it's a very rare occurrence. Mostly because it is a challenge to keep up with current orders. The best price you can get is likely going to be directly from our website, where I would recommend choosing the Free Shipping option. Thanks for your interest!
This my be a silly question but how do I determine the pin size for my grinder ? Also, since I use various mower blades in my fleet (i.e. standard, gator, high lift, etc.) which sharpener model would you recommend - 5000 or 5005?
We include 4 different adapter pins with our sharpeners, and one of them should fit your grinder. There are a few exceptions, and I will include a link to the spreadsheet we have been building with common grinder thread sizes. docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vQDszcT1Z3vLhwPYrQa8IxdN3aFanMZCHrbS1JR59SUGMEfMzpHl9Wq2yG_ZLJktflkmwhpD8FVtdjY/pubhtml?gid=69379172&single=true If you are sharpening a variety of blades, the Model 5005 will be best suited to that. It allows you to adjust the angle from 15 degrees to 45 degrees (in 5 degree increments), and should accommodate most anything you throw at it.
@@AllAmericanSharpener Do you have any promotions (discounts) for your 5005 blade sharpener? I would really like to purchase this model but the budget is a little tight after replacing landscaping tools due to theft (hedge trimmers, blowers, small mowers and hand held tools).
@@BroadwayJoe49 We don't offer any discounts or promotions on our products. We've made great effort to keep our sharpeners as affordable as they can be, while still maintaining the quality we believe is important. Thank you for checking in, and for your interest.
What about the angled sections of the mulch blade?They need sharpened to,as they are cutting edges as received when new.The Oregon has an attachment post to grind the entire cutting edge.Perhaps your flip adjustment could be adapted to do the other 2 edges?
I'm not sure I'm following your question. We sharpen the entire cutting edge of the mulching blade. In the video, he refers to the angle in between the two sections as the "transition area". When watching the video, you will see him sharpen half of the transition area in one position, and the other half in the other position. Then he moves on to sharpening the rest of the edge.
@@Bowtie41 I see. If it were me, and I wanted that edge sharp, I would just keep grinding further back in the same position, or maybe back in the down position. The blade edge that close to the center has relatively little circular motion, which means it is not doing much cutting, and it isn't as prone to damage and wear. So I wouldn't be overly concerned with that area. Most of the action is happening on the outer portion of the cutting edge, away from the center. Hope this helps. Thanks for your interest!
How do you adjust the 5005 to do mulching blades? It doesn’t just have to tip feature like the 5000 you’re show ing here. At what angle would you use to sharpen the top portion of a mulch blade?
I'm linking a couple of videos that demonstrate the way the 5005 works, and also walks you through how to find your angle. Every mower manufacturer has their own unique blade geometry, so it's not a one-size-fits-all approach to angles. Generally speaking, the raised mulching portion needs to be set 15 degrees LESS than the angle you're using to sharpen the cutting section. ruclips.net/video/muNntkofcYQ/видео.html ruclips.net/video/YQd8xbZgkq0/видео.html Thank you for checking in, and for your interest. I hope this is helpful.
@@AllAmericanSharpener thanks for the response. I was actually out in the garage setting everything up before I seen your reply. I was able to get it right with great success. What’s odd about mine is it’s a the same angle on the top and bottom part of the mulching blade. Worked out perfectly just going straight across it. Thanks again
Did you ever make a tool for sharpening Bush hog blades? Also, tool for shovel & hoes ? Maybe a sharpening tool for chain saws without the motor above but to pull horizontal to you to see better. I know you guys can do it. Thanks.
Thanks for your confidence, Larry. Design development and production is a pretty involved process, and at this point we've kept our focus on basic mower blade sharpening. Bush hog blades continue to pop onto our radar, and if we were to broaden our scope, that might be a direction we'd look into. No promises at this point in time. 😊
You can order directly from our website, and free shipping will be offered. I'm including a direct link to the product page for your convenience. Thank you for checking in, and for your interest. Please reach out if we can provide any additional assistance at support@allamericansharpener.com www.allamericansharpener.com/5005
Absolutely. This video has relevant information, but it was created before we made our Model 5005. That is the model you will want for those blades. You will likely need the 35 or 40 degree setting on the Model 5005 to match the factory bevels on Toro Timemaster blades. Thank you for your interest! www.allamericansharpener.com/5005
I bought the new gen 5005. It is terrific. Sharpened my Scag blades and Exmark. But my 12 foot batwing Progressive mower (7 blades) all sharpen on the left side when put on the system. Is there any way to make the Sharpener work on a left edge blade?
Hi Bill. Yes, I believe you are referring to a left hand or counter rotating mower blade. To sharpen a blade like that, you will actually be sharpening the edge below where the blade is mounted in the vise system. The link below will take you to a demonstration video of this. It's not the same blade as yours in the video, but the same principle applies. ruclips.net/video/AmlqcATxdAQ/видео.html We hope this is helpful!
@@AllAmericanSharpener Thanks for the quick reply! I will be at the shop as soon as I can get more tiime and see if I have the 5005 EXT., otherwise, as always, the All American Sharpener has figured a way to do the job! Great product.
@@billfendley7531 - No problem. If you have the 5005 Gen 2, then you have the longer arms (each will be 9.5" instead of 8"). That is the equivalent total length of the older 5005 EXT Model (which we no longer make or sell). So you should be in good shape. 👍
Question.....why sharpen the raised section on the blade. As the mower goes forward the grass is contacted by the leading edge of the blade and is cut or broken off at that time. The raised sharp area of the blade would never get to the grass first. So why sharpen it ? This is not a wise guy question. I am an engineer and this type of question will always come up. Another question, an older RUclips video was by a manufacturers rep advising against a razor sharp blade on a bush hog. If I remember correctly...his reason was that the sharper the edge, the more likely it would be chipped and damaged as the blade encountered stones, stumps , etc. Do you subscribe to his reckoning? If so, should the grass lawn mower grass blade be extremely sharp? Great video, great simple tool. Just wondering about how sharp a mower blade should be. Anyone else out there have any experience with my thoughts ? Thanks for the video. JoeB
Hi JoeB. Thank you for your comments and kind words. We agree that the inside raised section is a secondary edge. All the real action is happening on the outside cutting section. But, as you pointed out in your other comment, it does do some mulching. That section is also responsible for air redirection to help mulch up the already once cut blades of grass. So having that edge sharp is also helpful. We try not to argue about whether the mower blades should be razor sharp, or slightly dulled. There are some people that are very passionate about this topic. Personally, we do not dull or blunt our mower blades after sharpening them. The theory is that, if they are too sharp, they will take nicks more easily. This may be true. I would imagine a lot of that depends on the environment you are mowing in. We do not have any issues mowing our grass with a sharp blade. Any nicks that I see in a my blades, are likely nicks that would have happened even if the blade was slightly dulled before mowing. I suppose it also helps our decision knowing that we have a simple way to sharpen our blades. So we don't feel like it's a burden to sharpen them on a somewhat regular basis. We probably sharpen them about every 10 hours. That's when we feel a difference as they are starting to get dull. Thank you for your interest and your comments!
It's not designed to handle chipper blades. But we recently had a customer show us how they made their own adapter plate to sharpen their chipper blades. If you'd like more info about how they did that, feel free to send an email to: support@allamericansharpener.com Thanks for your interest!
How does it work on a blade in which the cutting edge is not in straight alignment. All of my blades have “wear” on the cutting portion and do not remain straight. Just wondering....
It will try to keep a straight line, but the grinder will still sharpen a worn edge that does not follow a straight line. It may take more passes with the grinder to get the whole edge sharp. The best example I have is this bi-level blade I sharpened for someone else. It was in pretty bad shape (worn with deep nicks), so I had to spend more time on it than an average blade. But I didn't have to grind until I had a straight edge just to get it sharp. I will share a photo link below: photos.app.goo.gl/crkDGD4nCYtX8YuaA
One way to improve upon your design would be to add a bearing and concentric cone to the outer portion of one of the pivots on the ‘arm.’ This would allow the operator to ‘stick’ the blade, via friction or magnetization, on the cone and allow gravity to be the decider of a truly balanced blade- assuming the bench or mounting bracket would position the arm into a relatively plumb (vertical) position. Pretty ingenious as is, however. PS- I’d take a 10% royalty if you’re able to bring this to market. 🙂
What's the point in having the angles labeled if you just quickly adjust it without looking on the mulching blade? 2 different angles, both are supposed to get a 30 degree angle ????
Hi Chris. On the Model 5000, there are 2 settings specifically for commercial bi-level mulching blades. They are marked more just so you can remember which setting is for what. On our newer Model 5005, there are multiple settings. So it is important to have them marked to come back to the same settings every time you sharpen a specific blade. Different blades need different angle settings. The angle adjustment is needed because of the tilts or twists in a blade. Here is a link to video that might give you a better idea of why the angle settings need to change. ruclips.net/video/VejPPKBv_9o/видео.html Most times, the adjustments are in order to keep the factory angle, which is usually close to a 30 degree edge. Thanks for your interest! Hope this helps. If you have more questions, you can email us at support@allamericansharpener.com
check out a locking hinged knee brace. they give you full 90 degree range of motion if you desire, otherwise you can put pins in the hinge to lock the movement from exceeding certain degree's. maybe that could be of use of the design. i want to get me one of these. I just started my own lawn service late last year but I'm looking to make a big push this year
Hi George. It is mostly made of anodized aluminum and stainless steel. You can watch the video in the link below this comment to see more about the quality of the material we use. Each unit is assembled by hand with attention to quality. ruclips.net/video/Ch67rwtAEkA/видео.html
During Covid I had so much freetime I rigged up a jig to hold my blades in place and a wicked edge/ edge pro style sharpening system and was basically putting knife edges on my blades. I had three sets that I changed out weekly and was mowing like every other day. That was the best my lawn has ever looked. Those were the days. Bring back covid.
Greetings from Canada! Just ordered the 5005 Gen 2 with the honda adapter kit to upgrade my small business. I searched a lot for a good product that would last for the rest of my life and that I could give to my child. Proud to support our hard working neighbors. Thanks for all the videos and take care!
Thank you for your business and support! We hope your 5005 serves your family well for many years. And we appreciate our neighbors to the north.
Project Farm did a review about a week ago. Demonstrated your product very well. Should see an uptick in sales. LOL Great product AND Made in U.S.A. MAkes quick work of sharpening blades.
Yes, we are grateful for the Project Farm review, and proud of our sharpener's performance. Thanks for your comment and support!
Yes this is brilliant!! And true American innovation!!👍🏻🤘🏻🇺🇸🇺🇸
@@bramwright803 Thanks for the compliment, and support!
I got my 5005 today. WOW !!! Fast and easy. Makes me want to do it. I hated sharpening blades. I clamped it to my welding table. Love it !!!
Thanks Pete! We're glad to hear that. There is definitely a positive side effect of wanting to sharpen your blades more often, ha ha! We appreciate your business and support.
Just received mine. Quality workmanship. Heavy duty. You can tell it was made by someone who took pride in his work...Works great...
Thank you! Hope the jig will last you a lifetime!
After researching all the different blade sharpeners out there I bought this one because its well made portable and nearly foolproof and affordable.Mine does a great job Todd and had all four grinder pins with it so no worries there about having the right one.Thanks Jim F. from PA.
Thanks, Jim! We appreciate your business and the kind words.
Been watching several videos on how to sharpen a lawnmower blade. From each one I gained a new piece of knowledge. From you I learned that there is a regular blade and a mulching blade. Had no idea that was a thing. But thank you for mentioning this as my mower is a mulching mower. Had no idea my blade is different from the guy next door. I gave you a “like” and subscribed.
Happy to pass along some useful information!
I ordered the 5005 2 days ago, it arrived today now I need to mount it. Super excited! Good quality!
That's great to hear! If you have any questions as you're getting set up, you can reach out to support@allamericansharpener.com, or call the Customer Support number at the bottom of our website.
What a great product !!! The wife ordered the 505 model on Thursday afternoon and we received it Monday afternoon.(would have been sooner but UPS don’t do weekends lol ) I was able to set it up and decided to try it out on some Land Pride finish mower blades I had in the shop. Was able to get the blades brought back to a decent cutting edge again. Then I sharpened the blade on my Toro push mower with fantastic results!!!!! cuts like a new mower !! Getting ready to do my Ferris next ! Easy to use,made in the USA ! What a great product the All American Sharpener is.
Thanks for your business and your comment! It's good to hear you are happy with the results. We hope and expect your 5005 will serve you well for many years.
I meant to type my 5005 but didn’t have my glasses on..... Anyway ITS A GREAT PRODUCT !!!!!
No problem. As long as you're happy with it, that is what matters. Thank you!
we have a yard care company, and have at least four blades a week to sharpen it takes a lot of time to do this. This looks quick and repeatable. Going to get three of these!!!
Sounds great! Thank you!
Used mine for the first time today....this sharpener is awesome. Quality piece of equipment. Very easy to use and the results are very consistent.
Awesome! That's good to hear! Thank you.
Awesome, I'm looking forward to using mine. It's "in the mail".
Bought this a couple months ago and wanted to use and give honest review. Excellent product. Well built and very well thought out. Have the honda adapter and it work's excellent. Reasonable price and excellent customer service. Replacement parts are cheap and easily available although I think it would need a lot of abuse before you needed any replacement parts.
Rebecca Machado We really appreciate you taking the time to give us feedback. And of course we're glad your experience has been positive! We hope it will last you for generations.
Thanks, mine is "in the mail".
Todd, ordered the 5005ext with Honda adapter and received it in 2 days, I just couldn’t wait to test your product out. Instructions were very clear and precise. The product material is first class you can tell a lot of time went into this and it will last a life time, I pulled my Honda blades out and went to work and oh my what a difference, I have been paying between $10 and $13 to have one blade sharpened (Honda has 2 blades), so $20 out the door, your product is awesome and makes it so easy. I just love it--- ps. The guys sharpening my blades was just tearing them up not very sharp and not at factory 30 degrees angle.
Roy - Thank you very much for the feedback and compliments! You're exactly the kind of person our sharpeners are made for, and I appreciate you taking the time to leave a comment.
So I ordered this last week and received it two days later. Setup was very straightforward and it came with four pins so there was one that fit my old Skil grinder. The build quality is excellent and looks like it should last for many years. It's easy to use and does a awesome job of sharpening the blades. Always used a bench grinder before and never could get the angles right but not a problem now with this sharpener.
Thanks for the comment, Rodney! We're glad you are happy with it!
I contacted the company and the developer himself; Todd responded in under 30 minutes. He clearly answered my question. This is an exceptional product and a blessing guys!!!!!
Thanks, Eric!
Here is some valuable information that worked for me and may work for anyone using the All American 5005 and the following blades: HONDA HRX17: W159671(UPPER BLADE) 30deg; W159977(LOWER BLADE) 35deg with All American adapter installed. John Deere: M154062(BAGGING/HIGH LIFT BLADE) 40deg; M149422(MULCHING BLADE) low outer edges 30deg, raised inner edges 25deg; GY20850(STANDARD 3-IN-1) low outer edges 35deg, raised 15deg.🤓
Thanks for the feedback. We know that angle settings vary with blade geometry and wear, but it's helpful to hear specific information from our terrific customers! Wishing you many years of great service from your 5005!
This might be the best presented youtube video I've watched. Very well done thank you it was a pleasure to watch someone who knows what they're doing.
Thank you, Andy. Very kind of you to say.
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bought one of these sharpeners a couple of years ago,works great, fast , always cuts correct angle,great tool.saves time, and money, because you don't grind any more than you have too.
Thanks very much for your comment and compliment! We're glad you are happy with your 5005, and we hope it is a tool that gives you years of great service. We are grateful to have you as a customer, and we appreciate your support.
I can attest to the sheer (design) genius of this sharpener. I use a Norton 980 ceramic abrasive fiber disc on my grinder with it (over the usual flap discs) and this sharpener hones my blades with ridiculous precision! The 5000 model works like a charm, but if you're in doubt, get the 5005 model. You'll thank yourself for years to come.
Zaine - Thanks so much for the positive comment. Glad to have you as a customer!
I literally ordered after seeing this video on Monday 6-3-19 around 2 pm. Looked interesting and tired of paying $7 blade and drive time to shops. Research magna and $700 or $200 + $30 grinder + $ 4 flap disc. Worth trying. Simply awesome from start to finish. Arrived today around Noon, texts confirmation and order, delivery Time, etc All Exceeding my Expectations So far. Servicing equipment and it arrived, Installation on bench and was done sharpening 21 mulch blades razor sharp in 30 minutes. Superior Quality, So Simple to Use, And Well worth the Price.
Thanks for sharing, being American Made and Completely Functionally upon Arrival. I appreciate it. High Quality Innovation for Sure for us LCO’s.
#smithlawnscapesbyrandysmith #northlakeland #lawncare #america
Sweet! That is exactly what we like to hear! Thanks for the testimonial. We appreciate your business, and that you took the time to post your thoughts.
I've seen a bunch of blade sharpening guides, this appears to be the simplest version and most accurate by far with for mulching blades and with a common hand grinder. A nice straightforward presentation.
Thank you! We admire quality and simplicity in other tools, so we strive for that in ours as well.
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I was a farmer. We would use hard surface welding rods, and where ever the metal would wear on subsoiler feet, and shanks . We added the hard surface. I started my own lawn service. I use one set of blades to see where they wore down the most. So where they wore. I added hard surface, which included the cutting edge . When I sold the riding tractor. Those blades were still on the mower. Give it a try.
Thats a great idea Charlie
Hey guys, just used this jig for the first time. I promise you this company is not paying me a dime for this review. This thing has got to be in my opinion the best thing since sliced bread; I really mean it!. I'm not even a professional commercial landscaper and I sharpened my blades to the point where it sliced through the grass and made the prettiest cuts I've ever seen in my life. I purchased the model 5000 EXT Keep up the good work all American Sharpener!!!
Thanks so much for the compliment! We appreciate it.
I mow an acre of thick tall fescue with two passes from opposing directions with a 60" zero turn. Consequently I need to sharpen and balance three mulching blades every 4th time I mow. This season I mow twice a week sometimes with all the rain. So far I've sharpened three blades 6 times times this year to keep my lawn looking professionally maintained. Recently I've been asked to sharpen mower blades for neighbors. I can't justify the expensive Oregon or similar sharpening setups. Nor have I ever been satisfied with the results of sharpening the mulching blades with a bench grinder. I like the simplicity of the design and fact I can get an almost razor sharp edge on a mulching blade with the right grinding disc. I'll be ordering one soon.
Thank you for your comment and support! We appreciate your business.
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For me as a new customer this is the best video for me to learn how to mount and use it. I bought the 05 version. This is an elegantly simple design. I need to remember to position the angle correctly. Forgot that the first time and I was grinding at the wrong angle. Oops.
I know you covered it but I missed it.
We're glad the video has been helpful. Thank you for your purchase and your feedback!
Man!!!! This is awesome you need a commercial on tv you will make a killin I’m getting one of these ,never seen before until I was looking on RUclips
Thanks, Gerald!
I’ve been in business for 18 yrs doing lawn care work trust me this is awesome and it’s also safer for employees to use!!!! You need to talk about how much safer it is to use verses holding it without the setup !!!!
My thoughts on this item?
1 - Shipping was lightning fast. I ordered Wednesday evening, and it was at my door Friday morning.
2 - The item was packaged very good, and had all hardware required to assemble along with very clear instructions on how to use the jig
3 - The quality of this product rivals anything I've seen to date. Solid and straight cut aluminum with chamfered and relieved edges gives the product a solid feel - and for the tool aficionado, it is very easy on the eyes, almost like a work of art.
4 - Assembly and installation of the jig on my work bench was very straight forward. So much so that any novice would be hard pressed to get lost installing this jig.
5 - It works GREAT! I had four sets of blades that the 30 degree edge was long lost from hand grinding. After using this jig on them, they look as good as new and has a nice sharp edge - ready to cut any lawn.
I'd recommend this item to anyone that is serious about maintaining their personal lawn to the professional that does landscape as a business, or even to a small shop owner that reconditions lawnmower blades for profit.
Wow. What a generous testimonial. We really do appreciate your comment/praise. And we're even more happy that you like it as much as you do. Connecting with like-minded people has been an unexpected benefit from putting our products on the market. And it feels really good. Thanks very much for taking the time to share your thoughts!
Todd, I purchased your 5005. I have the G6 Gator blades. I decided to purchse the devuce as I don't have confidence with the mower shop , nor myself. Excellent quailty. This video was a blessing before I use the unit. Best Always.
Thanks, Jon! Glad you are happy with it! We appreciate your business and support.
I have been using this for a couple months now and love it.
Thanks, Park! That's great to hear!
Well, it sure impressed me, so I went to his website and bought the Model 5000, because I have 3 mulching blades in my Exmark 52-inch Radius zero-turn mower. I also bought some 40-grit flap discs for my DeWalt D28402 grinder (his grinder looks like the grinder I have). If I remember, I'll return and give my impression when I've used his jig a few times.
Thanks for the compliment! We look forward to your thoughts after using it.
I have been using mine for a couple of months. It’ s a great, well made product. Thank you!!
You're welcome. We appreciate your business, and we thank you for your support!
Just what I need but a little to price for me. This is my 2 seasons on my landscaping/lawncare business and this will be a great tool to sharpen my equipment blades.
Feedback on my new 5005.
I Consider it a winner. I finally was able to sharpen a blade from my Woods 60” ZTR. It worked great. I found my blades are angled at 45 degrees. I need to sharpen and balance several blades so I will be switching over to a standard grinding wheel.
Thank you for the follow-up. We're glad that you are happy with it!
This was a very professional and informative video! I am thinking of ordering one. My blades angels are not 30 lol.
Thanks Jeff!
I can see some Harbor Freight grinders hanging on this all season if not forever! Good video.
Thank you!
Just ordered mine today and I’m stoked. I’m sure I’ll figure out what I need to do with my mulch : gator blades but they appear to have a 30 degree and a 15 degree. I ordered the 5005 gen 2 so I’m sure I’ll just have to play with the settings to see how it needs to be ground. I do appreciate you showing how to grind half the transition at a time. I think that was another thing I found confusing.
Awesome! Thank you for your business and support! If you haven't seen it already, below is a link to a video showing the process we use when we are trying to determine the best angle settings on an unfamiliar blade. It might give you some more ideas as well.
ruclips.net/video/YQd8xbZgkq0/видео.html
This absolutely would be a perfect and necessary tool for someone who has a lawn mowing business. For your average home owner however, I struggle with the cost justification to purchase this awesome tool. This is pure genius!! Thanks for your time to share this information, much appreciated!
Thank you for your compliment! We appreciate it. And we understand, it's not for everyone. It really comes down to how often you sharpen your mower blades, how many you have to sharpen, and whether you pay someone to have them sharpened. For some homeowners, the long term savings for this one time purchase makes sense. For others, it does not. Again, thank you for your interest.
@ All American Sharpener , thanks for your reply. Thanks for understanding my point. I am considering purchasing maybe later. ( I have your information now) Perhaps I can provide a service to the community for a nominal fee :) I also want to say that I have read a bunch of reviews and all seem to indicate that this product is high quality and well made. Please don’t sacrifice either of these to make the product cheaper, like so many other products have done. Respect and best wishes.
Thank you. We appreciate your kind words. And we have no intention of reducing quality. We will always want this to be a product that will last a lifetime, and be handed down to future generations. Best wishes to you as well.
True, but homeowners don’t sharpen their blades nearly as often as they should. Around here it cost ten bucks a blade to sharpen. I think it will pay for itself in the long run.
I bought one and love it. I’m constantly wanting to sharpen blades any chance I get now. I did buy a g5 gator blade setup and noticed the factory degree is 35 instead of 45 so I’m glad I saw this video. Always go with the factory angle
We're glad you are happy with it. Thank you for your business!
Very good. I’ve been trying to perfect this same idea, except on a totally different angle. Congrats
Thanks, William!
GrassDaddy did a review of this product, and it grabbed my attention. I've been grinding by hand for the past couple of years, and I replace the blades each year because hand grinding without a jig wrecks them as I am not very precise. After watching your videos, I took the leap and purchased one. I look forward to getting mine and getting a good grind on my blades.
That's great! Let us know what you think once you get a chance to use it! Thanks for giving it a try.
Project Farm just did a video comparing sharpening jigs, tools, and methods. He pretty well sold me on the All American.
We saw the video, and were happy to be included in his testing. If you have any questions about our sharpeners, and which model would be best suited to your needs, please reach out via email to support@allamericansharpener.com or call us at 419-823-7787.
I just received, anxious to use, love it. Slice my index so that satisfy my need and time to watch this instruction.
Excellent tutorial. Going to get me one,. Many thanks.
Just bought one yesterday, Will put it to use and see how great this $200 sharpener is. Hoping for the best.
Thanks! I will be ordering one very soon. I do mine by hand but I notice that my angle is moving towards 45 deg slowly. This will eliminate that creeping angle. Just what I've been looking for.
You're welcome. Thank you for your interest!
Just dawned on me. My blades are mulching blades and I would surmise that the blades cut the grass particles flying around in the deck again and again, now just once. Sorry about the “too quick” question on having to sharpen the raised section of the mulching blade.
JoeB
Not a problem on the question. As you have pointed out, the inside raised cutting section does have some value. It is there to redirect airflow and help chop up the already once cut mower blades. But we do agree that the most important cutting section of the blade is the outside 2 or 3 inches. That's where all the original cutting action happens.
Thanks for your comments!
Best demo I have seen, thanks.
Glad is was helpful. Thank you!
Just received mine yesterday i love this thing!
Thanks for your business, Mark. That's good to hear!
Just received mine today, works great easy to use..
Looks good. I just ordered the 05 model. Impressive.
Thank you! We appreciate your business!
Fast shipping too. Ordered yesterday, and got shipping notice too.
Bill
I love it. I have 5 acres and use a riding mower as well as a brush hog with tractor. Do you think I could modify the blade holder so I could hold my brush hog blades in place to sharpen them with your jig too?
Hi John. We have had some customers who have been able to adapt or modify their jig to work with their brush hog blades. But, in general, we cannot recommend it. Our jigs are very sturdy, but only meant for mower blades. We fear that many brush hog blades are just a bit too hefty for the device. One day down the road we may develop a larger jig that is meant for brush hog blades. Thank you for your interest!
Using a grinder takes off a LOT of material making balancing more difficult. I sharpen my blades several times a season in a vise, using a 40-grit flapper wheel on a drill. Blade is razor sharp and I never have to worry about balancing.
I just ordered the model 5000 and I’m eagerly waiting for it to arrive.
Thank you for your business, Michael! We hope and expect it will serve you well for many years. Have a great weekend!
I just watched your video. After checking out your website, I see that I live 10minutes from you. I will have to stop by. Looks like an awesome product!
Thank you! Not to discourage a visit, but our shop isn't very customer friendly at this time. Mostly due to everyone working to keep up with orders. Maybe give us a call first at 419-823-7787 before stopping over. Thanks for your interest!
I just received my 5005 sharpener a few days ago. My first reaction as I was unpacking it was it was a bit pricey for what you get. After setting it up and sharpening the first set of blades I was shocked how far off my hand sharpened blades were from the 30 degrees the blades needed to be. We mow about 3 acres a week around our property and the blades I sharpened with he 5005 cut like brand new blades and the yard looks amazing. I have already sharpened one of my spare set of blades and have another set that will be sharpened soon. I am now convinced it is a great buy and concept. I would purchase it again with no hesitation.
Thanks for your honest feedback about our sharpener. Our intention was to build a tool that would simplify efficiently maintaining a consistent sharp edge on blades. We're happy that you've had great results already, and hope and expect this tool will serve you for many years.
This looks like a great product! I just placed an order for the 5005. I'm hoping it works with my DeWalt cordless grinder. Also I couldn't help but notice your desk in the background. I have the same, have had since the 70s (still using). Looking forward to finally retiring my manual file and drill grinder.
That's awesome, Bob! We haven't run into a DeWalt cordless in the 4-5" size that doesn't work with our system. Please reach out if you have any questions once you receive your 5005 to support@allamericansharpener.com. We're grateful for your business!
Nice, this machinist will be ordering one!
Thank you!
Mine will be at my house today!
Thanks @@caseywalker5889! We appreciate your business. And we hope your 5005/Honda Adapter combo serves you well!
@@AllAmericanSharpener I'm not much of a video maker, but I'll give a good review on your Instagram page!!
Just purchased! Awaiting delivery 😃
Thanks for your order, Keith!
I so need this...I cannot maintain an angle by hand even if my life depends on it. Word of advice, make something like this but for knives. I have an ESEE izula 2 that needs to be sharpened but finding a quality knife sharpener person is hard to find around here.
Hi Caleb. Thanks for your input! We will add it to our list of requests. :-)
Just ordered one....hope this helps me maintain my blade angle
Thank you!
I just ordered the 5000 today through Amazon Prime and should receive it tomorrow! I can't wait to try it out.
Been looking to use with my grinder. Looks very feesable. Will order very soon
Sounds good! Thanks!
Just ordered mine. This is great!
Awesome! Thanks, Jason!
Used it for the first time today. So easy, and works great! Thank you!!
That's good to hear! Glad it's working well for you!
BRILLIANT! SPEECHLESS! looks like a homerun!
Ha ha! Thank you! Your enthusiasm is very encouraging!
I have wrestled with blade sharpening for decades. Always "just OK"....but never the end results I wanted. Outstanding looking solution and product. Got to get me one...today! One question....can the All American also be used to sharpen the much heavier bush hog, tractor- type mower blades?
Thank you for your enthusiasm about our sharpeners! We have put some thought into a possible design for alternate blades, but the project hasn't gone beyond that yet. We have had some customers who were able to adapt their 5005 to work with bush hog blades, but in general, we still do not recommend it with our current jigs.
Thanks for checking in with us about it. I can't make any promises for a product in the near future, but it is something that is still on our radar.
@@AllAmericanSharpener many thanks for your very quick response. I will be following your efforts to design/release a jig specifically intended for tractor mower bush-hog type blades. I have a huge need as I am certain others out there do also.
I was just online reviewing all your current models...their uses and benefits. Looks like the 5005 is the "Cat's Meow" for my current needs. With 3 different mowers using 3+ different blades, I think it would be my best choice. Will be ordering it today. Thanks again for your very timely response to my inquiry.
@@dwayneloftice2326 - You're very welcome. Thank you!
Oh, I like TUBAS! I also like my model 5000. Great video, thanks
Ha ha, thank you! Glad you are happy with your 5000!
Nice sharpener. Will this do left-hand discharge blades?
Hi Darren. Yes, we have "EXT" models with that added ability. See this video for details.
ruclips.net/video/RxLYASrwiCw/видео.html
We've also introduced a new Model 5005 with multiple angles adjustments. This model also has an 'EXT" verion for left-hand discharge blades.
ruclips.net/video/zdnjOYnEe2Y/видео.html
Thanks for your interest!
Great demo. Thanks for taking the time to show us how it all works.
You're welcome. Thank you for watching and leaving your comment!
Got mine. LOVE IT!
Thank you! Glad to hear it! We appreciate your support.
Can it sharpen Left hand blades? For years Simplicity, used Left hand blades. John Deere, Walker, Roper, Wheel Horse, Woods, Jacobsen, Yard-Man and many other used Left hand blades on there rear discharge deck.
Yes, you can sharpen left hand blades as well. Please see the link below in this comment for a video showing how that is done. Thank you for your question!
ruclips.net/video/AmlqcATxdAQ/видео.html
I was reading the first comment, which I thought contained EXCELLELENT advice. Then I looked closer and I saw that I wrote it, three years ago!
Some further advice:
1. The most important thing about sharpening a lawnmower blade is not getting the edge at exactly the right angle. The most important thing is to sharpen the blade OFTEN. In my experience, the blade always needs sharpening!
2. To sharpen the blade often the critical thing is to have the tools needed readily available. For my MTD mower, there is one central bolt holding the blade on and two supporting bolts, one on each side.
Therefore, I have a separate tool kit with the two wrenches I need to extract the two small bolts, and one wrench to loosen and tighten the main bolt.
I also have a purpose designed blade holder that holds the blade steady so that the bolts can be tightened or loosened without moving the blade. That's a luxury, but one I bought years ago, so why not use it?
I have a piece of concrete to use to hold the mower back against the ground. exposing the blade. It's always in the same place, so it's always available.
I roll the mower over a piece of tarp, so that bolts wont get lost if they drop --- avoiding having them fall in the grass.
Finally, I do my mower sharpening at the entrance to my basement, the bottom of the stair well. The mower is about three feet above the floor of the basement, which is a convenient height to work on removing and replacing the blade.
I use a hand file to sharpen, unless there is a significant ding. If there is, that gets cleaned up on a bench grinder and then filed as I sharpen the rest of the blade.
I have two blades, and will often remove one blade and replace it with the second, already sharpened blade. I then sharpen the second blade when convenient.
In short, I have the tools I need readily available and a procedure that makes blade sharpening easy and fast. That encourages frequent blade sharpening ---an important trick to keeping your mower effective.
Looks like a great device. Can it be made to attached to a vise with out damaging it ? It looks like it would throw off the design.
Thanks Lou! Yes, the mounting bracket can be turned around and clamped in a vise without any issue. You can see a demonstration of this in the video at the link below.
ruclips.net/video/77Qg3cVc_f4/видео.html
will the 5005 model do mulching blades?
Yes, mulching blades are no problem for the 5005. The angle of the jig adjusts from 15 to 45 degrees, in 5 degree increments, and is designed to accommodate just about any blade geometry. Reach out anytime at support@allamericansharpener.com for more in depth questions regarding your particular blades.
@@AllAmericanSharpener thank you
I ordered the 5005 2 months ago and never have received it, turns out the company was bogus I got ripped. Anyway I just ordered one direct from you and am excited to try it out. But you need to know there are companies out there doing this sort of thing claiming to sell your product . I"ve also heard they"re advertising your product and selling cheap copies I suppose this happens alot. Hope to try this thing out soon I have alot of blades to sharpen. Tony from Ohio
Hi Tony. We're sorry to hear that. It is something that seems to be on the rise. These "companies" are overseas so they are able to avoid any litigation, and they are nearly impossible to track down. When one of their websites is shut down, another identical one pops up under a different website domain. Rest assured that we see your order with us, and our shipping team will have it ready for the carrier to pick up from our factory Monday afternoon. We are grateful for your business.
@@AllAmericanSharpener thanks for the reply guys I"ll get back with you after I try this thing out.
Do you ever have specials on them?
Honestly, it's a very rare occurrence. Mostly because it is a challenge to keep up with current orders. The best price you can get is likely going to be directly from our website, where I would recommend choosing the Free Shipping option. Thanks for your interest!
Don't bother with screwing it to a bench surface. Just flip the angled piece and then mount it in a bench vice. I actually dreamt that solution!
That's definitely a great option!
This my be a silly question but how do I determine the pin size for my grinder ? Also, since I use various mower blades in my fleet (i.e. standard, gator, high lift, etc.) which sharpener model would you recommend - 5000 or 5005?
We include 4 different adapter pins with our sharpeners, and one of them should fit your grinder. There are a few exceptions, and I will include a link to the spreadsheet we have been building with common grinder thread sizes. docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vQDszcT1Z3vLhwPYrQa8IxdN3aFanMZCHrbS1JR59SUGMEfMzpHl9Wq2yG_ZLJktflkmwhpD8FVtdjY/pubhtml?gid=69379172&single=true
If you are sharpening a variety of blades, the Model 5005 will be best suited to that. It allows you to adjust the angle from 15 degrees to 45 degrees (in 5 degree increments), and should accommodate most anything you throw at it.
Thanks a million!
@@BroadwayJoe49 You're very welcome! Please reach out if we can provide any additional assistance at support@allamericansharpener.com
@@AllAmericanSharpener Do you have any promotions (discounts) for your 5005 blade sharpener? I would really like to purchase this model but the budget is a little tight after replacing landscaping tools due to theft (hedge trimmers, blowers, small mowers and hand held tools).
@@BroadwayJoe49 We don't offer any discounts or promotions on our products. We've made great effort to keep our sharpeners as affordable as they can be, while still maintaining the quality we believe is important. Thank you for checking in, and for your interest.
Just seen this on a lawn care video you new to put this on tv never will pay to get mine sharpened again
Thanks! Maybe one day we will have it on TV. We appreciate the compliment.
Great idea and execution
Thank you! We appreciate your support.
That's is really cool....hope you get em back in Stock soon.
Thanks! I'm sorry we didn't see this sooner. Hopefully you saw that we are back in stock.
What about the angled sections of the mulch blade?They need sharpened to,as they are cutting edges as received when new.The Oregon has an attachment post to grind the entire cutting edge.Perhaps your flip adjustment could be adapted to do the other 2 edges?
I'm not sure I'm following your question. We sharpen the entire cutting edge of the mulching blade. In the video, he refers to the angle in between the two sections as the "transition area". When watching the video, you will see him sharpen half of the transition area in one position, and the other half in the other position. Then he moves on to sharpening the rest of the edge.
@@AllAmericanSharpener Thank You for the reply.I am referring to the back side of the transition area(closest to the center hole)
@@DennyAustin5 Okay,or I can free-hand it.We will see when my fixture arrives ;-)
@@Bowtie41 I see. If it were me, and I wanted that edge sharp, I would just keep grinding further back in the same position, or maybe back in the down position. The blade edge that close to the center has relatively little circular motion, which means it is not doing much cutting, and it isn't as prone to damage and wear. So I wouldn't be overly concerned with that area. Most of the action is happening on the outer portion of the cutting edge, away from the center. Hope this helps. Thanks for your interest!
@@Bowtie41 I realized one of my responses was from my personal account. Hence the out of order replies. Sorry for the confusion.
Wow,very impressed by your blade sharpener device.thank you for this lesson how to use it,I'll keep it in mind as a future purchase😊
Thank you!
How do you adjust the 5005 to do mulching blades? It doesn’t just have to tip feature like the 5000 you’re show ing here. At what angle would you use to sharpen the top portion of a mulch blade?
I'm linking a couple of videos that demonstrate the way the 5005 works, and also walks you through how to find your angle. Every mower manufacturer has their own unique blade geometry, so it's not a one-size-fits-all approach to angles. Generally speaking, the raised mulching portion needs to be set 15 degrees LESS than the angle you're using to sharpen the cutting section.
ruclips.net/video/muNntkofcYQ/видео.html
ruclips.net/video/YQd8xbZgkq0/видео.html
Thank you for checking in, and for your interest. I hope this is helpful.
@@AllAmericanSharpener thanks for the response. I was actually out in the garage setting everything up before I seen your reply. I was able to get it right with great success. What’s odd about mine is it’s a the same angle on the top and bottom part of the mulching blade. Worked out perfectly just going straight across it. Thanks again
@@dailyDIYdude Glad you had a successful first go at your blades!
Did you ever make a tool for sharpening Bush hog blades? Also, tool for shovel & hoes ? Maybe a sharpening tool for chain saws without the motor above but to pull horizontal to you to see better. I know you guys can do it. Thanks.
Thanks for your confidence, Larry. Design development and production is a pretty involved process, and at this point we've kept our focus on basic mower blade sharpening. Bush hog blades continue to pop onto our radar, and if we were to broaden our scope, that might be a direction we'd look into. No promises at this point in time. 😊
How do I get one of these can you let me know
You can order directly from our website, and free shipping will be offered. I'm including a direct link to the product page for your convenience. Thank you for checking in, and for your interest. Please reach out if we can provide any additional assistance at support@allamericansharpener.com
www.allamericansharpener.com/5005
Awesome Product Semper Fi
Thank you, sir!
Great American ingenuity is the American way!
Thank you!
Great product! Just got mine tonight and love it!
Thanks, Brad! We appreciate your business and support!
Can the sharpener sharpen the Toro Timemaster 30” blades?
Thanks!
Absolutely. This video has relevant information, but it was created before we made our Model 5005. That is the model you will want for those blades. You will likely need the 35 or 40 degree setting on the Model 5005 to match the factory bevels on Toro Timemaster blades. Thank you for your interest!
www.allamericansharpener.com/5005
@@AllAmericanSharpener thank you! Will be ordering the 5005 gen 2
I bought the new gen 5005. It is terrific. Sharpened my Scag blades and Exmark. But my 12 foot batwing Progressive mower (7 blades) all sharpen on the left side when put on the system. Is there any way to make the Sharpener work on a left edge blade?
Hi Bill. Yes, I believe you are referring to a left hand or counter rotating mower blade. To sharpen a blade like that, you will actually be sharpening the edge below where the blade is mounted in the vise system. The link below will take you to a demonstration video of this. It's not the same blade as yours in the video, but the same principle applies.
ruclips.net/video/AmlqcATxdAQ/видео.html
We hope this is helpful!
@@AllAmericanSharpener Thanks for the quick reply! I will be at the shop as soon as I can get more tiime and see if I have the 5005 EXT., otherwise, as always, the All American Sharpener has figured a way to do the job! Great product.
@@billfendley7531 - No problem. If you have the 5005 Gen 2, then you have the longer arms (each will be 9.5" instead of 8"). That is the equivalent total length of the older 5005 EXT Model (which we no longer make or sell). So you should be in good shape. 👍
Question.....why sharpen the raised section on the blade. As the mower goes forward the grass is contacted by the leading edge of the blade and is cut or broken off at that time. The raised sharp area of the blade would never get to the grass first. So why sharpen it ? This is not a wise guy question. I am an engineer and this type of question will always come up. Another question, an older RUclips video was by a manufacturers rep advising against a razor sharp blade on a bush hog. If I remember correctly...his reason was that the sharper the edge, the more likely it would be chipped and damaged as the blade encountered stones, stumps , etc. Do you subscribe to his reckoning? If so, should the grass lawn mower grass blade be extremely sharp?
Great video, great simple tool. Just wondering about how sharp a mower blade should be. Anyone else out there have any experience with my thoughts ?
Thanks for the video.
JoeB
Hi JoeB. Thank you for your comments and kind words. We agree that the inside raised section is a secondary edge. All the real action is happening on the outside cutting section. But, as you pointed out in your other comment, it does do some mulching. That section is also responsible for air redirection to help mulch up the already once cut blades of grass. So having that edge sharp is also helpful.
We try not to argue about whether the mower blades should be razor sharp, or slightly dulled. There are some people that are very passionate about this topic. Personally, we do not dull or blunt our mower blades after sharpening them. The theory is that, if they are too sharp, they will take nicks more easily. This may be true. I would imagine a lot of that depends on the environment you are mowing in. We do not have any issues mowing our grass with a sharp blade. Any nicks that I see in a my blades, are likely nicks that would have happened even if the blade was slightly dulled before mowing. I suppose it also helps our decision knowing that we have a simple way to sharpen our blades. So we don't feel like it's a burden to sharpen them on a somewhat regular basis. We probably sharpen them about every 10 hours. That's when we feel a difference as they are starting to get dull.
Thank you for your interest and your comments!
Can I sharpen chipper blades with this machine?
It's not designed to handle chipper blades. But we recently had a customer show us how they made their own adapter plate to sharpen their chipper blades. If you'd like more info about how they did that, feel free to send an email to:
support@allamericansharpener.com
Thanks for your interest!
How does it work on a blade in which the cutting edge is not in straight alignment. All of my blades have “wear” on the cutting portion and do not remain straight. Just wondering....
It will try to keep a straight line, but the grinder will still sharpen a worn edge that does not follow a straight line. It may take more passes with the grinder to get the whole edge sharp. The best example I have is this bi-level blade I sharpened for someone else. It was in pretty bad shape (worn with deep nicks), so I had to spend more time on it than an average blade. But I didn't have to grind until I had a straight edge just to get it sharp. I will share a photo link below:
photos.app.goo.gl/crkDGD4nCYtX8YuaA
Such simplicity in design.
Thank you!
Nice..I need this asap!!
One way to improve upon your design would be to add a bearing and concentric cone to the outer portion of one of the pivots on the ‘arm.’ This would allow the operator to ‘stick’ the blade, via friction or magnetization, on the cone and allow gravity to be the decider of a truly balanced blade- assuming the bench or mounting bracket would position the arm into a relatively plumb (vertical) position. Pretty ingenious as is, however. PS- I’d take a 10% royalty if you’re able to bring this to market. 🙂
That would be a pretty slick upgrade!
It's called a Magna Matic blade balancer. Exact same design you're inferring that he add to his design.
Thank u! Great job my friend
Thank you!
What's the point in having the angles labeled if you just quickly adjust it without looking on the mulching blade? 2 different angles, both are supposed to get a 30 degree angle ????
Hi Chris. On the Model 5000, there are 2 settings specifically for commercial bi-level mulching blades. They are marked more just so you can remember which setting is for what. On our newer Model 5005, there are multiple settings. So it is important to have them marked to come back to the same settings every time you sharpen a specific blade. Different blades need different angle settings. The angle adjustment is needed because of the tilts or twists in a blade. Here is a link to video that might give you a better idea of why the angle settings need to change. ruclips.net/video/VejPPKBv_9o/видео.html
Most times, the adjustments are in order to keep the factory angle, which is usually close to a 30 degree edge.
Thanks for your interest! Hope this helps. If you have more questions, you can email us at support@allamericansharpener.com
@@AllAmericanSharpener Awesome, thanks for that detailed explanation !!
check out a locking hinged knee brace. they give you full 90 degree range of motion if you desire, otherwise you can put pins in the hinge to lock the movement from exceeding certain degree's. maybe that could be of use of the design. i want to get me one of these. I just started my own lawn service late last year but I'm looking to make a big push this year
You're welcome, and will do! We're all about the details.
You might want to offer a wall hung magnetic balancer also so I can buy it altogether. Just a thought ;^)
Don
A well made balancer is on our list of possible designs. Thanks for your feedback!
Great idea, I just can't see that price for a regular homeowner. Is it made of titanium?
Hi George. It is mostly made of anodized aluminum and stainless steel. You can watch the video in the link below this comment to see more about the quality of the material we use. Each unit is assembled by hand with attention to quality.
ruclips.net/video/Ch67rwtAEkA/видео.html