only casuuals lol, anyone who'd been watching him since he started in the ufc knew his star power was close to none eventough dana did all he could to boost the f out of his career
@@mattparsons8598 good for him. But in no universe does this matter. Seeing as the big names guys are like “67k fighting thats dudes gonna cost me 90 million im out” PPVs matter because it’s in that. That guys go from 5, 10, 20 million to those wild 100 million+ numbers.
@@sECUREij Ngannou has now secured two boxing fights with the best heavyweights of this era. Even if he loses, he's gonna make more money than he did in the ufc 10-15 times over. He made the best decision he could make and we aren't even talking about his PFL money
@@markdonkor5409 LOL PFL is gonna lose between 10 and 50 million for every “PPV” they put on with Francis man. He’s gonna make money but lose everyone involved on the financial side millions. That’s why Dana and UFC weren’t offering him Conor McGregor money. They guy can’t draw money with a paper and a green marker
Sold 67k buys and literally nobody of note is calling to fight him. AJ was calling for the fight. Saw that number and immideatly was like "f this" pretty fumbled. He'll maybe get another Saudi card but thats it he'll never get the mega card he wanted
I mean Dana was right nobody cares about Francis his last event lost 100 million dollars or more. You guys act like the saudis have unlimited money to continue to funnel into a losing edouver. When ONE FC is being funded to lose money by Quatar. But even then ONE is being told they need to start turning a profit.
LOL the dudes event cost 100 miilion dollars in losses. You think any actual company that cares about being around can lose that kind of money. If anything Danas right that nobdy cares about francis. Heres the funny thing even ONE FC is being told they need to turn a profit or Quatar is gonna cut funding. Because at the end of the day NOBODY has unlimited resources to lose just so Francis can make stacks on stacks of underserved money
y’all hated on him and doubted him… now he just signed a seven figure deal with all the benefits and the platform he wanted. plus high salary for his opponent. maybe not every fighter will be able to do this but this may be huge for paving for other fighters to be heard.
Expected to make his debut mid 2024 that will be over 2 years since his last fight and it will be against a low level talent if it takes him this long between fights then his career is basically done
Sooooooooo When is your video coming saying that you wasted your time on this video and you put your foot in your mouth🤔 The Man Gambled On Himself And Really Beat Boxings World Champ!! You trashed Francis bro just for a video bro not knowing he avoided getting trapped in a bad contract with dana,he just wanted the same benefits as connor...if you are a true Journalist, you will definitely admit when you are wrong. And make you a nice video about why you were wrong💯
67k buys got beat and has nobody him for a fight. Heck the only big name is AJ and he saw those numbers and called his manager and said "nop not happening"
@@gzo737 lol so getting smoked by someone who who isn’t 50 pounds of fat in 2 rounds is so impressive. I didn’t take into account the Saudis just paying AJ and Francis to lose money
Soo, gonna take this video down now???😂😂😂 It’s ridiculous how a principled man (unlike so many UFC celebrities) like Francis was getting dragged - it turns out he was right betting on himself AGAIN!!! Lol, and we all know race was a factor too, so many people calling him uneducated or dumb
Same bro. I was called a UFC shill and I wasn't even defending the UFC. Francis is just doing everything wrong. People really thought he was gonna waltz into boxing and fight Fury, Wilder, and Joshua and make 30 million lmao
Sad reality is, that while the UFC does underpay it's fighters, it at least guarantees fights for it's fighters. If you're someone like Izzy or Volk making that champ money *AND* fighting a few times a year you're going to be a millionaire. But Francis, while a great fighter, dragged his feet a lot while he was champ. Man went 18 months without defending the title, and only did so after Dana gave an interim belt to Gane
Came back to make sure he don't delete this. He made this dickeating video meanwhile Francis signed a MASSIVE deal..let's see if he walks his comments back and admit he's wrong
Facts why was it so hard for the ufc to market this guy. Naganou knocks top contenders heads to the moon and folded the divisions Goat like a lawn chair.
@@thedreal8584 the UFC did push him. They disrespected Stipe so bad leading into the first fight and Ngannou dropped the ball and yeah he's fun to watch but he has zero personality.
@the dreal That's a lie right there! Remember the "Francis hits as hard as a Ford escort going as fast as it can" line? That line was used in the first Stipe fight IN FRONT OF Stipe. Highly disrespectful, imo to your hw champ, but Stipe won and was let his frustrations about that be known. Then Francis had that abomination of a fight against Derrick Lewis where the UFC gave up on him for a while. Francis shat the bed when the UFC was heating him up, and yall turn around and behave like the UFC didn't promote him? Stupid
@@tejvirchess Scared? he lost for one. For AJ was calling for the fight until the day the PPV numbers came in then completely cooled off. I dont think theyre scared. I think they dont want to lose 20+ million the guy.
67k buys, and the lionshare of money in boxing is the PPV points. Heck the UFC gave Jon 8 million plus PPV points on a card that sold over a million buys. The ufc won this round
@@sECUREij You mean the lionshare of money in boxing for promoters etc is PPV; sure fighters can get in on this too depending but it also doesn't really matter if someone is just going to turn around and throw a bag of money at you. The Saudi's are not playing by normal boxing rules they have enough money and interest to just do whatever they please. It was held in the middle of the day on a weekend; of course it's not going to be a PPV smash. If Francis had waited around have you considered the fight he was supposed to have with Jones would have been postponed due to Jon being injured and he'd be sitting around with 10m + less $$ right now? Ridiculous my guy - Even most of the boxing pundits have come out eating crow and admitting he did well and has set himself up for another fight. Keep on shilling for the UFC though.
@@mattparsons8598 Dude ok man I’m tired of this BS “oh it’s in the middle of the day” Islam and Volk had a rematch in the middle of the day that sold ten times as many buys as the big 67k His last PPV for the UFC sold 250k the most Francis has ever sold was with stipe at 500k but here’s the funny thing. Stipe has proven that he can sell 500k without Francis. He’s just not a draws And he’s the Saudis can lose money all they want on Francis. BUT when nobody but bums like Peter Porter and Zang whatever his name is. Are the only people who want to fight him. He’s lost. Because eventually he’s going to lose and then the Saudis will never book another Francis PPV.
Francis sold 67k buys. Do you know how much panic that should be causing in the PFL offices. Francis cant fight anywhere but a places that will literally lose money cause they can.
@@novicelifts5197 lifthing weights means u can fight ? U really are the novice? And yes finegirl is my youtube , more like find fine girls , you're a novice I don't expect u to know about that I saw the dudes balls on your face view , why ?
TJ, I think there's some additional context for 4:03 you missed. When Francis won the belt in March gainst Stipe, the UFC wanted him to turn around and fight in June. Francis said it was too soon, had visa issues that won't be resolved until June, and so he wants July or August. However, when the time came for August, Francis was shooting F9 (hence the taking a vacation angle) and was not prepared to fight. The UFC made the interim because Francis was not honest with the UFC and scheduled a movie shoot for a time frame he would've been eligible to fight. They made it interim to make it worth the money as a ppv
Yeah the UFC still has to meet their quota that they signed with ESPN. People just thought the UFC was being disrespectful when they have to make cards for ESPN
@TJlovesFights Aw man. Definitely highlight this in the future because mainstream mma👃 outlets ignore that fact because it paints Francis in a bad light, and they want the UFC to look as bad as possible.
@@tjlovesfights I don’t know if it’s anything you’ve been able to find but I remember some discussions going on about how Francis was speculated to be injured and to need time to heal. From my memory I remember Francis denying the rumours and saying that he just needed time to be on vacation. Idk if it’s anything useful but I just vividly remember that (I was thinking and planning about going to the Lewis vs gane event so I was keeping up with it)
Another thing. After beating Stipe in his post fight press conference Ngannou said he would like fight Jones in July/Augusto. Jon tweeted weeks later that he would be back in a year to bulk up. Dana keep saying Derrick was gonna be next while Ngannou was still talking about Jones. I like Ngannou but It lowkey looked like he didn't want to fight Lewis
LOL the dude has locked himself into fighting bums in the middle east cause he couldnt sell. Nobody is calling to fight francis cause nobody wnats to lose millions in PPV buy money on him
You shoulf hsve mentioned the president of bsre knuckle basically saying they are not interested in Francis because he asked for unrealistic amounts of money. I think thats a huge insight to how tough it is to truly meet and satisfy what he wants and he’s basically his own worst enemy in these negotiations. Boxing sold him a fake dream and he should have just stayed in the ufc
Boxing doesn’t allow freedom as well btw, I mean have you seen boxers randomly try to run into other organisations? And I’m not talking about the high level boxers, most journeyman boxers who make 10k a fight don’t run into the UFC and stuff because boxing also doesn’t offer freedom, no one does, it’s a fantasy.
U mean bkfc? Makes sense cos that organisation is small but growing and in pretty sure their highest purse was like 500k defo below what Francis would want
@@kevinsmoon3257 yhh thought so happens lol. And yh defo ain't getting a deal as good as that, I acc didn't k waboht the 8m I only knew about the Jon Jones aspect and doing up million ppv. Can't believe he turned that down thinking he could acc do better.
@@TY-km8hj i know dude i just think he was so infatuated with the possibility of making more in boxing he didnt think ahead. They basically just sold him a fantasy and he took the bait with no real evidence that the boxing fights were ever going to happen even in his ariel interview he admitted that no boxing promoter had reached out to him which to me was a red flag from the beginning because if promoters want you they’ll be lining up for whenever you can fight under their promotion which is what I imagine he thought was going to happen only to realize he’s not really that popular
@@jamestoney6599 He never had 2 blown knees and the one he had was not at level 4 because he never had any limp and he was able to wrestle! He wrestle because he knew that he was going to lose if he strike and he lost the first three rounds... John would finish Ngannou easily with his wrestling. Same with Jones he knew that striking against Gane was not going to work so he wrestle....
@@joannewilson6577 Francis outwrestled Stipe in the rematch not just gane and he beat gane on one knee and only wrestled because gane kept running around it’s hard to track and KO someone with a fucked up knee . Gane was cherry picked for Jones to win he was never a champion and has zero wrestling. Francis literally showed the blueprint to beat Gane cause he was undefeated until he fought Francis NOT Jones. Also gane took the Jones fight short notice with a injured hand he didn’t know he was fighting Jones until the billboard leak lmao
@@christosdemitrious449 You are wrong,Gane has decent wrestling and great striking that is why Jones AVOIDED to strike against Gane! Francis himself said that Jones did avoid striking against Gane because he was afraid to do so that is why Jones only use is wrestling. Gane has decent wrestling,he has good submission and he did prove it in many fights. Jones wrestle since +20 years and he would beat Francis the same way.
Despite this disrespectful click bait video, im glad you exposed yoursel. Still ill keep it respectful, you won't see the jones fight because of the ufc and dana whites greed. Also this is better than Connors boxing match as there's no split with the ufc. It's just soooo good to see this man stick to his guns even with videos like this slandering him for betting on himself. Tyson vs Nganau is gonna net more in one fight than his entire ufc career ever could. ONE fight. Simple as that. Ontop of his pfl deal OTHER pfl fighters will also get the bag, health insurance, more leeway w8th contracts and a guy with morals who had been called foolish since he left cameroonin search of a better life. I feel like DANA fumbled hard here and channels like this fade into obscurity. I won't advertiser the othe channel that did a way better video than this and has 2mil views on it and is new but yeah. Hate farming never pays in the long run. Trust me.
I dont think he knew that making super boxing matchups is a million times harder than making a UFC fights...and it costed him a fuck ton. Edit: (post francis fury fight) I was tripping forgot how broken and OP brodie really is XD. He is doing much better and a shit ton of avenues opened up for him. Well played Francis
Yeah I remember someone in another video said it first. "He gambled his whole career for a big payday to fight a boxer, boxers don't even fight boxers"
@@kastaway-m4x 2 fights a year maximum making under 10 million. He just needs 1 big boxing match. The problem is he will most likely lose it then will either box for way less or fight mma for way less. Francis wasn't going to defend his belt like 5 more times in the ufc.
@@Teddy-se8qb But the odds of that happening are super slim considering the highest level Boxers don’t even extend those offers to other Boxers, let alone Francis
These people mock fighters for signing shit contracts but when they try to negotiate what the'yre worth of they'll tell these same fighters to not be deluded and greedy
He can turn it around and I see 2 major options: 1. Start fighting lower level boxers and work his way up to be respected within the sport. It will take some time but his stardom will still help him progress faster. 2. Get into a MMA promotion and become their superstar. Bellator, PFL etc would love to have a name like Ngannou and will bend over backwards if he hitches his wagon to them. He has the potential to make another HW division basically from the ground up by being a potential Best in the World-contender. Other than that he might luck out with a Deontay fight or something. I think he might be aiming too high though. Either way, seems like a nice dude so I hope him the best.
Too old and too late to be working up boxing ranks. BKFC said he was asking for unrealistic money and that's concerning since they just throw money around. He's nowhere near the draw he thinks he is.
People have been telling Francis he is making foolish decisions since he left Africa to pursue his dream. He has defied the odds and continued to bet on himself. What he has accomplished is near impossible. At this point I’m not doubting him at all, and even if this path doesn’t lead him to crazy money fights, at least he can rest his head knowing he did what he wanted to do and never compromised his integrity for a check.
Racism too . Conor is a light weight 140 lbs guy 😂 . That’s a teenage girls weight Even the worst heavyweight can put Mcgregor to sleep with sheer physical power . I think fans are jealous and don’t want to see a powerful Heavyweight Black MMA fighter like Ngannou . They want to see a tiny little lightweight MMA fighter like Mcgregor 😂 Even girls are bigger than Little Mcgregor 😂
@@bobfaam5215 let's be real dude, there ain't a girl would could beat connor, connor would kill amanda dont count him put because he fights at "girl weight" when he cuts, and also wtf does "wahsism" have to do with it? Jon jones is getting insane praise(especially by dana) and money rn not to mention izzy and leon who are also african champions that make ufc headlines non stop
@@randomdude4669 Gabi Garcia can beat Connor . Gabi is a very big , strong and powerful built woman . She is 260 lbs of pure muscles and 6 feet 2 inch tall.
He's hoping to find that mayweather mcgregor crossover money but those crossover fights have lost steam and popularity. No boxing stars he can fight that's gonna generate that kind of money he's looking for. He messed up by not staying with the ufc bc its bigger fights for him over there. Especially with Jon J
@@unclejesse4271 agreed but it did way more damage to conors career than floyds. Floyd was already 50-0 and beat everybody people wanted him to beat that was just his ride off to the sunset. Conor came back and beat cowboy but his luck was terrible after that fight. The money changed conors life but it kinda pushed him outta seeing more prime years of his. But i never Get upset at these dudes wanting to feed they family
Go eat your words. Now he'll be making multiple times the amount any UFC fighter in history has ever made in ONE FIGHT VS FURY!!! All you doubters looking real dumb now 😂😂😂😂😂
I also think Jon Jones coming back and dog walking Gane the way he did hurt Francis, the narrative went from Francis being the baddest man alive to Jon would destroy him and make it look easy and that really hurts his standing in the market imo
The biggest thing to me is francis’ physical weakness right now is his knee, and Jon has been known to be horrible to his opponent’s knees. If they fight Francis will likely need knee surgery again.
The biggest thing to me is francis’ physical weakness right now is his knee, and Jon has been known to be horrible to his opponent’s knees. If they fight Francis will likely need knee surgery again.
yep I said the same thing, now it's been over 2 years and no fights are happening. I think this will go down as one of the worst decisions ever made by a UFC champ. At least Cejudo retired in the cage and admitted he F'd up and didn't make it all about the money. This Francis issue seems to have layers of BS that we don't even know about.
Ya, his manager sucked. Talking him into the contract would have given him a nice payday from the percentage cut. Kevin was to focused on his own career as a fighter to strike a boxing deal with bigger names anyways. So it's not like they had leverage to go somewhere else. Francis is my favorite fighter of all time and we probably won't get to see him fight again, because they let their egos get in the way and they've pretty much been black listed.
@@kchannel5317 Go eat your words. Now he'll be making multiple times the amount any UFC fighter in history has ever made in ONE FIGHT VS FURY!!! All you doubters looking real dumb now 😂😂😂😂😂
He was right Francis got his big payday but at the cost of his career 67k buys and nobody actively calling him out. Heck he was suppose to take the fight in december from Fury after he and his oppoenent rescheduled and crickets.
Yep. Conor had just become the first person in history to hold two UFC belts simultaneously and his last PPV earned 1.3 million buys when he went to fight Mayweather. Francis, on the other hand, has only defended the HW belt once and his last PPV card earned about 400K buys. He's not a star and he had no leverage over the UFC when he left. He has even less leverage/value now that Gane, who Francis struggled with/went the distance with, was smashed by Jon Jones inside of a round.
And Dana still regret letting his son Conor do boxing. He ain't gonna make same mistake twice by letting another mmm fighter do boxing while they are in contract with ufc.
@@ballsdeep9400Francis doesn't have the charisma or personality of McGregor or the draw either. People were barely showing up for Francis's UFC PPVs and they pushed him just as hard as Brock Lesnar and McGregor. The guy killed his own hype after being pushed to the moon then lost to Stipe then had one of the worst fights of all time with Derrick Lewis right after so by the time he got the second fight with Stipe his hype train was derailed especially since he doesn't have any charisma whatsoever.
The MMA media encouraged him to leave as an attempt to attack the UFC and now once he’s gone they turn their back on him, pathetic but predictable
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That's no one's fault but Ngannou's.
If you're gullible enough to let the media convince you to commit career suicide that sounds like a you problem.
not only the media, but the community
only casuuals lol, anyone who'd been watching him since he started in the ufc knew his star power was close to none eventough dana did all he could to boost the f out of his career
Aged like milk. This man is now setup to make a killing in boxing; and likely made more off that Fury fight than he did in his entire MMA career.
67k buys
@@sECUREij sipping the Chael Kool aid too much. Francis made bank, who cares about ppv buys when he made over 10 mil on one fight.
@@mattparsons8598 good for him. But in no universe does this matter. Seeing as the big names guys are like “67k fighting thats dudes gonna cost me 90 million im out”
PPVs matter because it’s in that. That guys go from 5, 10, 20 million to those wild 100 million+ numbers.
@@sECUREij Ngannou has now secured two boxing fights with the best heavyweights of this era. Even if he loses, he's gonna make more money than he did in the ufc 10-15 times over. He made the best decision he could make and we aren't even talking about his PFL money
@@markdonkor5409 LOL PFL is gonna lose between 10 and 50 million for every “PPV” they put on with Francis man.
He’s gonna make money but lose everyone involved on the financial side millions.
That’s why Dana and UFC weren’t offering him Conor McGregor money. They guy can’t draw money with a paper and a green marker
What happened now bro ? You have been embarrassed a lot 😂
His event lost 100 millions dollars and Dan was right nobody cares abot francis
7 months later … I am here to confirm that he did not fumble the bag but he doubled the bag
Sold 67k buys and literally nobody of note is calling to fight him. AJ was calling for the fight. Saw that number and immideatly was like "f this" pretty fumbled. He'll maybe get another Saudi card but thats it he'll never get the mega card he wanted
@@sECUREij holy shit y’all just please stop talking atp 😂😂😂
@@shumishu6019 67k buys
@@sECUREijkeep being salty, man just made 30 Million in the space of 3 months
Funny I have memory from more then 3 months ago. When Francis was talking 50 or 100 million for one fight@@artshelp2116
The milk is so spoilt its melting through the floor 😂
I mean Dana was right nobody cares about Francis his last event lost 100 million dollars or more. You guys act like the saudis have unlimited money to continue to funnel into a losing edouver. When ONE FC is being funded to lose money by Quatar. But even then ONE is being told they need to start turning a profit.
Tyson vs Francis in October lol take this post down
Apology incoming? Now he’s an all time legend
LOL the dudes event cost 100 miilion dollars in losses. You think any actual company that cares about being around can lose that kind of money. If anything Danas right that nobdy cares about francis. Heres the funny thing even ONE FC is being told they need to turn a profit or Quatar is gonna cut funding. Because at the end of the day NOBODY has unlimited resources to lose just so Francis can make stacks on stacks of underserved money
This video didn’t age well at all 😂
Aged like millk😂
Don’t delete this lol
y’all hated on him and doubted him… now he just signed a seven figure deal with all the benefits and the platform he wanted. plus high salary for his opponent. maybe not every fighter will be able to do this but this may be huge for paving for other fighters to be heard.
Expected to make his debut mid 2024 that will be over 2 years since his last fight and it will be against a low level talent if it takes him this long between fights then his career is basically done
He needs to delete this video , Francis is fighting fury for more than the ufc has paid Jon jones for his entire career 😂😂😂😂
@@papanonstoppa9686 he admitted he was wrong in a follow up video!
@@p_ttown1979 Got WORSE NOW.LMAO
😂🎉
Here after they announced Francis vs fury
He didn't kill anything, he stood up for himself and others. Somethings are more important than money
100% Facts
And he is the hottest HW boxing and mma fighter highly demanded now
This video aged extremely poorly, as did many of the comments. 😂
Just came back here after the news. Bye haters 😂
Aged like milk
aged like milk LMAO!
LOL 67k buys and literally no one wants that fight
@@sECUREijStill the best to happen in boxing 2023, legendary man
wow with two mounths this video already looks old hahahah
Lol 12/7/2023 Francis books fight with tyson fury 😂
Now Francis has another big payday coming up against Anthony Joshua.
Your boy got put to sleep.
This video and comment section might be the worst aged in RUclips history lol
You must be feeling very silly right now TJ.
Lol who fumbled now, goofball??
Looool at this video now
Sooooooooo When is your video coming saying that you wasted your time on this video and you put your foot in your mouth🤔
The Man Gambled On Himself And Really Beat Boxings World Champ!!
You trashed Francis bro just for a video bro not knowing he avoided getting trapped in a bad contract with dana,he just wanted the same benefits as connor...if you are a true Journalist, you will definitely admit when you are wrong. And make you a nice video about why you were wrong💯
67k buys got beat and has nobody him for a fight. Heck the only big name is AJ and he saw those numbers and called his manager and said "nop not happening"
@@sECUREijAged like milk
@@gzo737 lol so getting smoked by someone who who isn’t 50 pounds of fat in 2 rounds is so impressive. I didn’t take into account the Saudis just paying AJ and Francis to lose money
@@sECUREij literally just making up shit
Get ready to learn Chinese buddy.
I don't even know how this channel got popular to begin with.
Soo, gonna take this video down now???😂😂😂 It’s ridiculous how a principled man (unlike so many UFC celebrities) like Francis was getting dragged - it turns out he was right betting on himself AGAIN!!! Lol, and we all know race was a factor too, so many people calling him uneducated or dumb
Lmfao ong
Exactly, now he has to make a second video on how Francis reallllyyy proved him wrong after this fury fight announcement
This aged like fine milk
This aged like milk with a dead mouse in it
This didn't age well
67k buys
This aged like milk 😹😹😹👆
Even more now after the fight 😹
Called this months ago when everyone else was calling his ill advised behavior "stunning and brave"
Same bro. I was called a UFC shill and I wasn't even defending the UFC. Francis is just doing everything wrong. People really thought he was gonna waltz into boxing and fight Fury, Wilder, and Joshua and make 30 million lmao
Sad reality is, that while the UFC does underpay it's fighters, it at least guarantees fights for it's fighters. If you're someone like Izzy or Volk making that champ money *AND* fighting a few times a year you're going to be a millionaire. But Francis, while a great fighter, dragged his feet a lot while he was champ. Man went 18 months without defending the title, and only did so after Dana gave an interim belt to Gane
Doesn't make the UFC contract fair tho
@@sidnotthesloth1827 yes the contract is fair
If you say that a month ago they'll call you out of being jealous of him and a hater
Came back to make sure he don't delete this. He made this dickeating video meanwhile Francis signed a MASSIVE deal..let's see if he walks his comments back and admit he's wrong
Not just a massive deal.. the biggest deal in heavy weight history.l
I have never seen someone so marketable be so unmarketable if that makes sense
Facts why was it so hard for the ufc to market this guy. Naganou knocks top contenders heads to the moon and folded the divisions Goat like a lawn chair.
@@thedreal8584 the UFC did push him. They disrespected Stipe so bad leading into the first fight and Ngannou dropped the ball and yeah he's fun to watch but he has zero personality.
@@thedreal8584 cause he is an idiot that tries to fuck things up for himself.
@the dreal That's a lie right there! Remember the "Francis hits as hard as a Ford escort going as fast as it can" line? That line was used in the first Stipe fight IN FRONT OF Stipe. Highly disrespectful, imo to your hw champ, but Stipe won and was let his frustrations about that be known.
Then Francis had that abomination of a fight against Derrick Lewis where the UFC gave up on him for a while. Francis shat the bed when the UFC was heating him up, and yall turn around and behave like the UFC didn't promote him? Stupid
well his old coach warned us about Ngannou-too much ego
😂😂😂😂😂 the only thing dead is your credibility
aged well lmao
well....this video aged like milk ;))
Francis Ngannou vs. Tyson Fury October 28 Saudi Arabia
who is here after fury fight xD
67k buys and nobody calling for a fight with him
@@sECUREij yeah people are scared and its a start to the biggest payday
@@tejvirchess Scared? he lost for one. For AJ was calling for the fight until the day the PPV numbers came in then completely cooled off. I dont think theyre scared. I think they dont want to lose 20+ million the guy.
@@sECUREij you are the product of propaganda
I'm here after the Joshua fight😂 he still didn't fumble the bag tho
This aged well!! My boy just made over 10 million last night against fury and basically won that fight.
67k buys, and the lionshare of money in boxing is the PPV points. Heck the UFC gave Jon 8 million plus PPV points on a card that sold over a million buys. The ufc won this round
@@sECUREij You mean the lionshare of money in boxing for promoters etc is PPV; sure fighters can get in on this too depending but it also doesn't really matter if someone is just going to turn around and throw a bag of money at you. The Saudi's are not playing by normal boxing rules they have enough money and interest to just do whatever they please. It was held in the middle of the day on a weekend; of course it's not going to be a PPV smash.
If Francis had waited around have you considered the fight he was supposed to have with Jones would have been postponed due to Jon being injured and he'd be sitting around with 10m + less $$ right now? Ridiculous my guy - Even most of the boxing pundits have come out eating crow and admitting he did well and has set himself up for another fight. Keep on shilling for the UFC though.
@@mattparsons8598 Well you’re wrong seeing as Jon actually fought before Francis, and sold more PPVs for roughly the same pay as Francis
@@mattparsons8598 Dude ok man I’m tired of this BS “oh it’s in the middle of the day” Islam and Volk had a rematch in the middle of the day that sold ten times as many buys as the big 67k
His last PPV for the UFC sold 250k the most Francis has ever sold was with stipe at 500k but here’s the funny thing. Stipe has proven that he can sell 500k without Francis.
He’s just not a draws
And he’s the Saudis can lose money all they want on Francis. BUT when nobody but bums like Peter Porter and Zang whatever his name is. Are the only people who want to fight him. He’s lost.
Because eventually he’s going to lose and then the Saudis will never book another Francis PPV.
this video aged like bread
this video did not aged well...
You need to make PT 2 to this and own up to this L TJ
Francis sold 67k buys. Do you know how much panic that should be causing in the PFL offices. Francis cant fight anywhere but a places that will literally lose money cause they can.
@@sECUREijhe's fighting AJ next lol
@@finegirl-ko9cx doesn’t change that he’ll lose money for the suadis again
@@sECUREijwhy do you care
He is fighting AJ next 😂😂😂he really fumbled the bag ?
Your hero is still sleeping 😴 💤 🛌 🤡🤡🤡
@@novicelifts5197 ah the keyboard warrior with the name novice or child ....grow up, it's not football u win some or u got knocked out
@@finegirl-ko9cx says the guy with the name ‘finegirl’. So a kid can bench 405? Get out of your basement
@@novicelifts5197 lifthing weights means u can fight ? U really are the novice? And yes finegirl is my youtube , more like find fine girls , you're a novice I don't expect u to know about that I saw the dudes balls on your face view , why ?
Boy this aged like milk
Well this didn’t age well
Aged like milk
On God 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
LOL!
Lmao I knew this video was gonna age like milk. You really based all this because of people who couldn’t afford him like Bellator or BKFC.
Should probably delete this video
TJ, I think there's some additional context for 4:03 you missed. When Francis won the belt in March gainst Stipe, the UFC wanted him to turn around and fight in June. Francis said it was too soon, had visa issues that won't be resolved until June, and so he wants July or August.
However, when the time came for August, Francis was shooting F9 (hence the taking a vacation angle) and was not prepared to fight. The UFC made the interim because Francis was not honest with the UFC and scheduled a movie shoot for a time frame he would've been eligible to fight. They made it interim to make it worth the money as a ppv
Yeah the UFC still has to meet their quota that they signed with ESPN. People just thought the UFC was being disrespectful when they have to make cards for ESPN
Funny thing is I did read this but forgot to mention it
@TJlovesFights Aw man. Definitely highlight this in the future because mainstream mma👃 outlets ignore that fact because it paints Francis in a bad light, and they want the UFC to look as bad as possible.
@@tjlovesfights I don’t know if it’s anything you’ve been able to find but I remember some discussions going on about how Francis was speculated to be injured and to need time to heal.
From my memory I remember Francis denying the rumours and saying that he just needed time to be on vacation.
Idk if it’s anything useful but I just vividly remember that (I was thinking and planning about going to the Lewis vs gane event so I was keeping up with it)
Another thing.
After beating Stipe in his post fight press conference Ngannou said he would like fight Jones in July/Augusto.
Jon tweeted weeks later that he would be back in a year to bulk up.
Dana keep saying Derrick was gonna be next while Ngannou was still talking about Jones.
I like Ngannou but It lowkey looked like he didn't want to fight Lewis
got this one kind of wrong huh
Francis fumbled that bag, but because hes francis he immediately caught it and found it heavier than the one he fumbled
LOL the dude has locked himself into fighting bums in the middle east cause he couldnt sell. Nobody is calling to fight francis cause nobody wnats to lose millions in PPV buy money on him
@@sECUREijsay that to his face 😂
You shoulf hsve mentioned the president of bsre knuckle basically saying they are not interested in Francis because he asked for unrealistic amounts of money. I think thats a huge insight to how tough it is to truly meet and satisfy what he wants and he’s basically his own worst enemy in these negotiations. Boxing sold him a fake dream and he should have just stayed in the ufc
Boxing doesn’t allow freedom as well btw, I mean have you seen boxers randomly try to run into other organisations? And I’m not talking about the high level boxers, most journeyman boxers who make 10k a fight don’t run into the UFC and stuff because boxing also doesn’t offer freedom, no one does, it’s a fantasy.
U mean bkfc? Makes sense cos that organisation is small but growing and in pretty sure their highest purse was like 500k defo below what Francis would want
@@TY-km8hj yeah sorry it was a typo and yeah i mean i dont think anyone is giving him more or even matching the 8 mil the ufc offered him
@@kevinsmoon3257 yhh thought so happens lol. And yh defo ain't getting a deal as good as that, I acc didn't k waboht the 8m I only knew about the Jon Jones aspect and doing up million ppv. Can't believe he turned that down thinking he could acc do better.
@@TY-km8hj i know dude i just think he was so infatuated with the possibility of making more in boxing he didnt think ahead. They basically just sold him a fantasy and he took the bait with no real evidence that the boxing fights were ever going to happen even in his ariel interview he admitted that no boxing promoter had reached out to him which to me was a red flag from the beginning because if promoters want you they’ll be lining up for whenever you can fight under their promotion which is what I imagine he thought was going to happen only to realize he’s not really that popular
this aged like milk
This gotta be p4p you’re worst ever video
massive L for you
67k buys
Didn’t age well
So this didn't age so well
Jones winning and in the fashion that it happened was the worst thing that could’ve happened to Francis’ career.
Yeah now people remember how one of a kind jon jones was, they're gonna forget all about Francis
One person with two blown knees forced to blanket an opponent Jones finished in the first? Shows you are weak.
@@jamestoney6599 He never had 2 blown knees and the one he had was not at level 4 because he never had any limp and he was able to wrestle!
He wrestle because he knew that he was going to lose if he strike and he lost the first three rounds...
John would finish Ngannou easily with his wrestling.
Same with Jones he knew that striking against Gane was not going to work so he wrestle....
@@joannewilson6577 Francis outwrestled Stipe in the rematch not just gane and he beat gane on one knee and only wrestled because gane kept running around it’s hard to track and KO someone with a fucked up knee . Gane was cherry picked for Jones to win he was never a champion and has zero wrestling. Francis literally showed the blueprint to beat Gane cause he was undefeated until he fought Francis NOT Jones. Also gane took the Jones fight short notice with a injured hand he didn’t know he was fighting Jones until the billboard leak lmao
@@christosdemitrious449 You are wrong,Gane has decent wrestling and great striking that is why Jones AVOIDED to strike against Gane!
Francis himself said that Jones did avoid striking against Gane because he was afraid to do so that is why Jones only use is wrestling.
Gane has decent wrestling,he has good submission and he did prove it in many fights.
Jones wrestle since +20 years and he would beat Francis the same way.
Look at him now though. U can go ahead and delete this little video lol
People hail him as some oracle for predicting an obvious favorite Davis will beat an inexperienced Garcia.
What's that again about Francis Ngannou "fumbling a bag?" More like Francis Ngannou "overstuffing a bag," he owns that has too much money in it.
This aged like milk
This aged well
Despite this disrespectful click bait video, im glad you exposed yoursel. Still ill keep it respectful, you won't see the jones fight because of the ufc and dana whites greed. Also this is better than Connors boxing match as there's no split with the ufc. It's just soooo good to see this man stick to his guns even with videos like this slandering him for betting on himself. Tyson vs Nganau is gonna net more in one fight than his entire ufc career ever could. ONE fight.
Simple as that. Ontop of his pfl deal OTHER pfl fighters will also get the bag, health insurance, more leeway w8th contracts and a guy with morals who had been called foolish since he left cameroonin search of a better life. I feel like DANA fumbled hard here and channels like this fade into obscurity. I won't advertiser the othe channel that did a way better video than this and has 2mil views on it and is new but yeah. Hate farming never pays in the long run. Trust me.
I dont think he knew that making super boxing matchups is a million times harder than making a UFC fights...and it costed him a fuck ton.
Edit: (post francis fury fight) I was tripping forgot how broken and OP brodie really is XD. He is doing much better and a shit ton of avenues opened up for him. Well played Francis
Yeah I remember someone in another video said it first. "He gambled his whole career for a big payday to fight a boxer, boxers don't even fight boxers"
UFC also provides good security, they guarantee 3xfights a year for their fighters, it's not like that in boxing.
@@kastaway-m4x 2 fights a year maximum making under 10 million. He just needs 1 big boxing match. The problem is he will most likely lose it then will either box for way less or fight mma for way less. Francis wasn't going to defend his belt like 5 more times in the ufc.
yeah til he gets the 1 fight that pays him more than his whole ufc career combined.
@@Teddy-se8qb But the odds of that happening are super slim considering the highest level Boxers don’t even extend those offers to other Boxers, let alone Francis
This aged so terribly
Make a new video bro. Show some respect TJ
smd francis is mega brain
Racist haters gonna hate. yall hate to see a black man win.
I mean whats the purpose of this video? killing his career?
These people mock fighters for signing shit contracts but when they try to negotiate what the'yre worth of they'll tell these same fighters to not be deluded and greedy
This is aging so well …
He can turn it around and I see 2 major options:
1. Start fighting lower level boxers and work his way up to be respected within the sport. It will take some time but his stardom will still help him progress faster.
2. Get into a MMA promotion and become their superstar. Bellator, PFL etc would love to have a name like Ngannou and will bend over backwards if he hitches his wagon to them. He has the potential to make another HW division basically from the ground up by being a potential Best in the World-contender.
Other than that he might luck out with a Deontay fight or something. I think he might be aiming too high though. Either way, seems like a nice dude so I hope him the best.
Too old and too late to be working up boxing ranks. BKFC said he was asking for unrealistic money and that's concerning since they just throw money around. He's nowhere near the draw he thinks he is.
Francis is approaching his 40s, he isn't a young fighter that can climb up the rankings to fight with the Best, his career is over
He needs to sign with ONE FC
@@rentfree007_ good organization but it's dying
@@rentfree007_ they won't be willing to pay him as much as the UFC even
And to think he did this all because Tyson fury told him "trust me bro"
Tyson- (Does lines)
"Ay you wanna fight dawg?"
(Passes out.)
Francis- "Dis is de best decision for me career!"
LOL!
can't believe he fell for that, fury is a well known troll 🤣
Gypsy tendencies
One of the most consequential trolls of all time by Tyson
@@AndrezMaddcake fr hes trolled a bunch, but this troll changed the landscape of a completely different sport.
Well well well
People have been telling Francis he is making foolish decisions since he left Africa to pursue his dream. He has defied the odds and continued to bet on himself. What he has accomplished is near impossible. At this point I’m not doubting him at all, and even if this path doesn’t lead him to crazy money fights, at least he can rest his head knowing he did what he wanted to do and never compromised his integrity for a check.
Really hope he surprised us or does something to get his career back on track. Would be a waste of a once in a lifetime athlete.
He never really had to compromise his integrity for a check though. It’s just a matter of him being too out for himself.
🙄 y'all will spin anything to make dickheads sound like geniuses
🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾
He wanted to get paid what he was worth. He saw Boxers making way more money. Boxers don’t suffer as much as UFC fighters do. Good for him!
This aged like milk, to the point that even Homelander won't touch that sh!t😂
Well this didn't aged well 😹😹😹
Anyone else here after he "fumbled the bag" and basically bought PFL 🤣🤣🤣
His ego got too big for his own good, he won the belt and then acted like he was Connor Mcgregor.
Word
Racism too . Conor is a light weight 140 lbs guy 😂 . That’s a teenage girls weight
Even the worst heavyweight can put Mcgregor to sleep with sheer physical power .
I think fans are jealous and don’t want to see a powerful Heavyweight Black MMA fighter like Ngannou .
They want to see a tiny little lightweight MMA fighter like Mcgregor 😂
Even girls are bigger than Little Mcgregor 😂
@@bobfaam5215 let's be real dude, there ain't a girl would could beat connor, connor would kill amanda dont count him put because he fights at "girl weight" when he cuts, and also wtf does "wahsism" have to do with it? Jon jones is getting insane praise(especially by dana) and money rn not to mention izzy and leon who are also african champions that make ufc headlines non stop
@@randomdude4669 lol 😂
Well said 🙏🙌
@@randomdude4669 Gabi Garcia can beat Connor . Gabi is a very big , strong and powerful built woman . She is 260 lbs of pure muscles and 6 feet 2 inch tall.
He's hoping to find that mayweather mcgregor crossover money but those crossover fights have lost steam and popularity. No boxing stars he can fight that's gonna generate that kind of money he's looking for. He messed up by not staying with the ufc bc its bigger fights for him over there. Especially with Jon J
Both of those guys had LEGACIES… before taking that golden ticket fight for new yachts.
Floyd vs Conor did 4.3 million ppvs
Ngannou has never sold even over 300k ppvs
@@flyingmonke facts. He's gonna be highly disappointed tryna step to boxing
Both fighters sell a million plus ppv's. Bigger loss than 300K niche audience Francis.
@@unclejesse4271 agreed but it did way more damage to conors career than floyds. Floyd was already 50-0 and beat everybody people wanted him to beat that was just his ride off to the sunset. Conor came back and beat cowboy but his luck was terrible after that fight. The money changed conors life but it kinda pushed him outta seeing more prime years of his. But i never Get upset at these dudes wanting to feed they family
Literally dumbest decision ever to leave the UFC. Dont bite the hand that fed you.
fed you royally
I was going to comment this! Nobody would know ngannou if it wasn't for those three letters
@@gtaone1838 Those three letters are PFL now it seems.
@@icelandiccubicle3418 they are and he’s not going to fight until he leaves in 2040 because they couldn’t reach a contractual agreement
@@gtaone1838 ......
This is what happens when your fake friends give you terrible advice
Go eat your words. Now he'll be making multiple times the amount any UFC fighter in history has ever made in ONE FIGHT VS FURY!!!
All you doubters looking real dumb now 😂😂😂😂😂
Lol he just signed with the PFL, and has one of the best deals. This clown video needs a second part 😂
fumbled the bag
67k buys and how many people are calling for the francis fight?
This sure aged well lol
I also think Jon Jones coming back and dog walking Gane the way he did hurt Francis, the narrative went from Francis being the baddest man alive to Jon would destroy him and make it look easy and that really hurts his standing in the market imo
'in the market' ☠☠
The biggest thing to me is francis’ physical weakness right now is his knee, and Jon has been known to be horrible to his opponent’s knees. If they fight Francis will likely need knee surgery again.
The biggest thing to me is francis’ physical weakness right now is his knee, and Jon has been known to be horrible to his opponent’s knees. If they fight Francis will likely need knee surgery again.
@@hithro5466 I think he would have ended Francis career that’s why he walked away because the money he was offered was good
@@terrellewilliams2188 crazy how the dude that slams his fist into unconscious dudes faces is afraid of being kicked in the knee
I feel second hand gutted for him ngl, his team let him down by not talking him out of this madness
He doesn’t have an agent so I doubt his team is anyone with experience in this business, or any big business deals
He doesn't have a team he has "yes men'
He is a moron and deserves what he did to himself.
A bunch of niggas, his manager is frican Scammer
He doesn’t even have a team. He has no manager not even sure if he has an agent. He wants to keep everything
This aged like milk
This did not age well
This video aged well....😆
67k buys
The craziest part was that the contract was only 3 fights AS CHAMP. He could've done those fights by now and then pursued boxing
yep I said the same thing, now it's been over 2 years and no fights are happening. I think this will go down as one of the worst decisions ever made by a UFC champ. At least Cejudo retired in the cage and admitted he F'd up and didn't make it all about the money. This Francis issue seems to have layers of BS that we don't even know about.
Ya, his manager sucked. Talking him into the contract would have given him a nice payday from the percentage cut. Kevin was to focused on his own career as a fighter to strike a boxing deal with bigger names anyways. So it's not like they had leverage to go somewhere else. Francis is my favorite fighter of all time and we probably won't get to see him fight again, because they let their egos get in the way and they've pretty much been black listed.
Are yall really that stupid? it's been 4 months since his last fight
@@kchannel5317he dos not have a manager, hes doing all by himself, hes to greedy to pay a manager thats why he fucked himself
@@kchannel5317 Go eat your words. Now he'll be making multiple times the amount any UFC fighter in history has ever made in ONE FIGHT VS FURY!!!
All you doubters looking real dumb now 😂😂😂😂😂
This is why having professional representation is important. A proper agent would have talked him out of this decision.
Why aren’t you doing videos apologizing to Francis
He was right Francis got his big payday but at the cost of his career 67k buys and nobody actively calling him out. Heck he was suppose to take the fight in december from Fury after he and his oppoenent rescheduled and crickets.
L
This aged well😂
apologize now 😡
He sold 67k buys and nobody wants to fight him.
Francis is the perfect case of , ego bigger then starpower . the only reason Conor was allowed to box was because he the starpower...
That’s a funny way of spelling Dana privilege
Francis doesn't have Conor Charisma
Yep. Conor had just become the first person in history to hold two UFC belts simultaneously and his last PPV earned 1.3 million buys when he went to fight Mayweather. Francis, on the other hand, has only defended the HW belt once and his last PPV card earned about 400K buys. He's not a star and he had no leverage over the UFC when he left. He has even less leverage/value now that Gane, who Francis struggled with/went the distance with, was smashed by Jon Jones inside of a round.
And Dana still regret letting his son Conor do boxing. He ain't gonna make same mistake twice by letting another mmm fighter do boxing while they are in contract with ufc.
@@ballsdeep9400Francis doesn't have the charisma or personality of McGregor or the draw either. People were barely showing up for Francis's UFC PPVs and they pushed him just as hard as Brock Lesnar and McGregor. The guy killed his own hype after being pushed to the moon then lost to Stipe then had one of the worst fights of all time with Derrick Lewis right after so by the time he got the second fight with Stipe his hype train was derailed especially since he doesn't have any charisma whatsoever.
Perhaps he didn’t have the right advice in his corner.
I am looking forward to your Tank vs Ryan prediction video, and live stream next week!
hahahhahahahahhahahahaha