i dont mean to be offtopic but does anyone know of a method to get back into an Instagram account..? I somehow forgot my account password. I would appreciate any help you can offer me.
Unless Hera specifically signed an NDA barring him from talking about the contract (basically signing a contract before signing the actual contract) he's fine to talk about what he wants.
Legally yes, I think the problem is more that they or other people might reconsider giving Hera such offers if they know that he is going to reveal it. Thats at least my guess
legally, sure - that doesnt man there are not other consequences (other potential offers changing, the way people view him, if facebook would even re offer the same at a future date, etc)
Actually it only makes sense for Hera to accept that offer because Facebook is hiring Streamers NOW They won't invest the same amount of money when Facebook streaming has somewhat of a viewership (no risks for streamers etc.) Just look at how much Mixer paid Ninja
but i think there is a different mixer was (for me and i think for most people) a new platform facebook on the other hand has a image what maybe isnt the best so if you hear somebody is streaming on facebook maybe you arent that interested like on twitch or mixer etc
Exactly. In fact within a year or two it will most likely be dead. Bad call from hera. Was easy money. In any case he won't grow to massive on any other platform either. Small community, other more interesting players etc
Facebook was offering tempting amounts to a lot of streamers for years now... Weird thing is, most people who accepted those offers returned to twitch when their contract ended without talking/being allowed to talk about why or what happened... So there seems to be something fishy going on there, good call for Hera imo
Magyars are such a fun civ! Super strong heavy cav archers, discounted scout line, and ofc the mighty Magyar Huzzar! It really says something about a civ when having FU paladin is almost an afterthought.
Great game as ever, like waching an action movie :D Any chance we get to see the Viper in some more campaigns also? the forgotten empires dlc are quite different from what You played in HD. Cheers!
I don't think it was a scam. Facebook has a LOT of money to spend and they really want to make their stream grow bigger and stronger. They need big streamers with their community so bad that they can offer 18k/month easily. And to be fair I kinda understand Hera. He's young, he still has a dream : make his community grow and become a bigger streamer. He has the capacity for it and he indeed might get a better offer later. If he goes to facebook to stream, he will lose a lot of viewers and of potential growing. But it's really risky not to accept it because if somehow the AoE2 hype goes down, he could lose everything.
@@WoyWoyy no disrespect to Hera but he is still a very small streamer. If facebook hands out 18k to those one can only imagine what the bigger streamers would get offered. So i would be very sceptical. But then again facebook is dead and the Zuck is desperate.
@@WoyWoyy It still smells fishy to me and/or maybe we're missing a ton of fine print (Or he meant 1.8K / 18 Hundred a month, which sounds more reasonable). So, at $216k a year before taxes, even Facebook would still want a return on their investments. Wealth or not, they ultimately want to make money and see a return. Hera's great, but there's simply no way he could convert that many people to justify the expense. Hell, even if he got the entire player-base of AOE2 on their platform, that's still a tiny number compared to the Millions of Subs other RUclipsrs have.
If Facebook just built a completely different website with it's own branding then they'd have a chance. No one is going to go to facebook to watch games.
you would, for 216k a year most of people would. Just imagine doing this for 5 years, earning a million and after that you can still stream on mix and grow your channel, as a rich boi :D
For all we know, Hera is super loaded already ! No seriously though.. How much does get paid at the moment donations included ? If the following doesn't happen, he'll have a lot less donations.. That and all the covenants of that contract, might not have been a good deal after all..
Dude lives at home. He has food, shelter, a game he enjoys playing. What would 18k do for him? Put him in a community setting he likes significantly less.
@@Mietchannel and - if it was a legit offer - you don't know what else was in the fine print. for 18k a month for a small to medium sized streamer I would expect there to be some conditions like having to stream exclusive on fb for multiple years or having to stream a certain amount of hours. that can be huge commitment, especially at that age and at this time where age experiences such a huge growths and more and more interest from all sorts of companies... what do you want with 18k when you are neither free nor happy... and I expect Hera already to be financially more than fine with yt, twitch and tournaments... still a lot though xD
@@Mietchannel but the only point to growing your channel is to make money. Viper is suggesting that even he doesn't make that much money being the best player in the world winning all the tournaments.
@@HolyShitNew with 18k a month, who cares, viewer count can only grow from 0. Invest the cash and double it. Hera is popular in Aoe2 community, especially now, if he made a sudden return to twitch from facebook, it would get a lot of exposure and a lot would follow him to fb. Its really a risk free thing, and you get 18k a month, if its not a scam that is.
yeah maybe it would get him more money but i think its better to enjoy doing it on the way he is doing it then if he has to stream on facebook with a lot less viewers he would have to decide for the money or for what he is enjoying more and when he has enough money to not have problems he has the opportunity to decide for what he prefers
18k a month is a ton of money, it was a bad idea to not take it, but I also doubt it was real. 216k a year for some small streamer of an old game with a relatively small viewer population? Doesn't really add up
@@HolyShitNew lots of people get paid a hell of a lot less thank 18k a month to do something they don't even like. Hera would still be doing the same thing at the end of the day and could still post to RUclips probably
11:00 Viper, you're still talking about it haha. Gives us an indication of what you were getting from Mixer (a few thousand a month?). But you must still be making your own small fortune (deservedly), especially back on Twitch again. Last night you must've makde at least $2k alone.
Main objective differs from game to game, your rushing distance is bigger so you could either build scouts and support your flank or try to go for a fast castle and be stronger later in the game for example But you are not forced to play as aggressive as in a flanks position
since you are further away from your enemies as a pocket you usually want to go for mobile units. scouts into knights is the most common choice of units, especially since your flank most likely goes for archers and you usually want to have one player having a ranged unit and one playing as "meat shield" in front. and since you are most likely less pressured in the pocket position you should also focus on getting extra tcs up as fast as possible to get quick an economic advantage while not letting your flank die.
I think he's wrong too, to not accept the offer. 8.000 is a huge amount. 1 year with that, and you almost secure all your future. And the excuse that he's not accepting now, but will accept in the future, when they offer more money... i think they don't will offer more money, in fact, i think they will offer less because he will be needed the money... but, everyone has a different view. (srry for the bad english, love your channel btw)
In 3v3s or 4v4s the player/players between two most furthest players are called pocket. They are further away from their enemy and have more allies nearby thus have a safer game. The other 2 players closer to the enemy are called "flank" player. In this game for example Viper and Daniel are pocket players and Hera and MbL are flank players.
Dude nobody who is serious with that shit would ever move over to FB. Even if the decline means means turning down $20k that doesn’t make you “rich” like Viper (🖤) says lol. Way more smart to grow your channel as much as possible. Ask DrDisrespect about this lol
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@@michaelcross7665 absolutely. The Magyar unit is not bad as it is. I love it personally. Maybe 1 extra attack or 10 more HP, but it's still good as is. Even Viper ranked it B or A tier, I can't remember which
I'm sure Hera's annoyed that he opened the Facebook can of worms. But still, 18K a month is $216,000 a year before taxes. There's sellout, and then there's more than what Surgeons make. Maybe he meant it was 1.8K a month, which sounds much more reasonable for a streamer. As such, it DOES seem too good to be true. Hera's a great player, obviously, but there are very few people who are $216k a year great. Smells awfully fishy to me, so I'm glad he turned Facebook down, if it actually was Facebook. Again, he really shouldn't have opened that can of worms, but people put their foot in their months all the time.
Came for the Magyars, stayed for the banter.
Watching team games for the 'sick' gameplay: nah
Watching team games for the teamspeak: hell yes
i dont mean to be offtopic but does anyone know of a method to get back into an Instagram account..?
I somehow forgot my account password. I would appreciate any help you can offer me.
@Luis Orlando instablaster =)
I guess we'll see Viper on facebook next week
Unless Hera specifically signed an NDA barring him from talking about the contract (basically signing a contract before signing the actual contract) he's fine to talk about what he wants.
Legally yes, I think the problem is more that they or other people might reconsider giving Hera such offers if they know that he is going to reveal it. Thats at least my guess
legally, sure - that doesnt man there are not other consequences (other potential offers changing, the way people view him, if facebook would even re offer the same at a future date, etc)
It’s bad form regardless. Very bad form.
@@Kelso540 He's a young guy, I think at least he'll learn a lot from it.
To be fair to Hera, he probably mentioned it to Viper assuming it would be private and not expecting him to freak out as much as he did.
Hera: “What 18k is going to do for me?” 18 * 12 = 216k. And that's for one year. Jeez! Viper would sign with his blood!
Same
With 216k I could donate 100k to my family and friends and still be way better off than I am now
Actually it only makes sense for Hera to accept that offer because Facebook is hiring Streamers NOW
They won't invest the same amount of money when Facebook streaming has somewhat of a viewership (no risks for streamers etc.)
Just look at how much Mixer paid Ninja
but i think there is a different
mixer was (for me and i think for most people) a new platform
facebook on the other hand has a image what maybe isnt the best
so if you hear somebody is streaming on facebook maybe you arent that interested like on twitch or mixer etc
Exactly. In fact within a year or two it will most likely be dead. Bad call from hera. Was easy money. In any case he won't grow to massive on any other platform either. Small community, other more interesting players etc
@@vineetmishra2690 fuc* off we aint with the zuck brotherhood
please no deleto sneko
Facebook was offering tempting amounts to a lot of streamers for years now... Weird thing is, most people who accepted those offers returned to twitch when their contract ended without talking/being allowed to talk about why or what happened... So there seems to be something fishy going on there, good call for Hera imo
@@Naveication they all made the money tho didn't they
Viper and mbl are so much like syblings :D 13:54
Massive respect for Hera. I absolutely despise Facebook but I'm not sure I can resist a 18k/month offer from them....
This aged well
@@tag180rotax what happened for it to have aged badly ?
Facebook also offered me $18,000/month to stream there. Just as I was contemplating whether to accept the offer or not, I woke up.
Magyars are such a fun civ! Super strong heavy cav archers, discounted scout line, and ofc the mighty Magyar Huzzar! It really says something about a civ when having FU paladin is almost an afterthought.
I like how mbl shout for help like I shout my elder brother for help when I am still 5
Hera is smart “there is more to growing your channel than money”
Also massive respect to Viper “you should ask the Lord what to do” 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
BO21 Bill gates vs Mark Zuckerberg Arabia for Vipers contract xD.
Hey Viper, thanks for spreading Magyar awareness, 50 mázsa őrölt paprika will soon be delivered to your house.
I think they just tested Heras sanity and the men in the white coats are already on their way.
Viper casually lamed MBL's sheeps around 3:30 lol
Great game as ever, like waching an action movie :D Any chance we get to see the Viper in some more campaigns also? the forgotten empires dlc are quite different from what You played in HD. Cheers!
nice i love to see stuff with you and hera
first, i'm hooked on this 4v4 stuff . keep it coming :D
$18k a month is a no brainer. the idea of waiting until he grows just to possibly get a larger or same sized contract is absolutely nonsensical.
At first i thought it was 18k year. But a month? That's insane, so insane probably was a scam.
I don't think it was a scam. Facebook has a LOT of money to spend and they really want to make their stream grow bigger and stronger. They need big streamers with their community so bad that they can offer 18k/month easily.
And to be fair I kinda understand Hera. He's young, he still has a dream : make his community grow and become a bigger streamer. He has the capacity for it and he indeed might get a better offer later. If he goes to facebook to stream, he will lose a lot of viewers and of potential growing. But it's really risky not to accept it because if somehow the AoE2 hype goes down, he could lose everything.
@@WoyWoyy no disrespect to Hera but he is still a very small streamer. If facebook hands out 18k to those one can only imagine what the bigger streamers would get offered.
So i would be very sceptical. But then again facebook is dead and the Zuck is desperate.
@@weston6860 can someone time stamp where this convo came from... id love to here the logistics
@@WoyWoyy It still smells fishy to me and/or maybe we're missing a ton of fine print (Or he meant 1.8K / 18 Hundred a month, which sounds more reasonable). So, at $216k a year before taxes, even Facebook would still want a return on their investments. Wealth or not, they ultimately want to make money and see a return. Hera's great, but there's simply no way he could convert that many people to justify the expense. Hell, even if he got the entire player-base of AOE2 on their platform, that's still a tiny number compared to the Millions of Subs other RUclipsrs have.
Viper casually laming MBL as MBL lames opponent LMAO
216K a year. at 20. playing video games. man, I'm siding with the vipah there.
"Viper, buy stone" lmao
Waiting for Daniel to ask what Facebook is.
This is a very fun team to watch with the banter
I've got to say, there is something dirty in how MBL lures his boar ...
remember those 2 Plutonians from Aqua Teen Hunger Force?
inb4 dejavu MBL & Hera
also - another commentary gem
I'm with Hera on his decision, I would never follow anyone to Facebook.
If Facebook just built a completely different website with it's own branding then they'd have a chance. No one is going to go to facebook to watch games.
you would, for 216k a year most of people would. Just imagine doing this for 5 years, earning a million and after that you can still stream on mix and grow your channel, as a rich boi :D
@@lukasg4807 I agree it would be a shower, but I bet there's still a huge amount that would.
I'm calling BS on the 18k offer anyway.
Dayum Viper with all the relics.
This FB talk aged so well LMAO
4v4 banter, looking forward to more
14:47 Viper~Viper~Viper~ Viiiiiiiperrrrrrrrr!
Hera would be the only streamer of AOE on that platform. That is a competitive advantage HERA!
I'm with Hera - offer is fuckin' ridiculous, but I can't imagine the AoE2 facebook community is exactly bustling. They could just as easily drop him
It would depend on the terms of the contract. Usually it's a lock in sort of thing for a set term
How can i get the Mod like Viper? small tree and square?
For all we know, Hera is super loaded already ! No seriously though.. How much does get paid at the moment donations included ? If the following doesn't happen, he'll have a lot less donations.. That and all the covenants of that contract, might not have been a good deal after all..
Ain't no way in hell he makes 18k a month currently
You can literally calculate his approximate earnings by watching his stream
What would 18k even do for me?
uhmmm
Dude lives at home. He has food, shelter, a game he enjoys playing. What would 18k do for him? Put him in a community setting he likes significantly less.
@@Mystprism I take Dudes who should try to live on their own for 500$
The 18k dollar game
I agree with hera tho, yes itsa lot but literally nobody is on fb
@@Mietchannel and - if it was a legit offer - you don't know what else was in the fine print. for 18k a month for a small to medium sized streamer I would expect there to be some conditions like having to stream exclusive on fb for multiple years or having to stream a certain amount of hours. that can be huge commitment, especially at that age and at this time where age experiences such a huge growths and more and more interest from all sorts of companies... what do you want with 18k when you are neither free nor happy... and I expect Hera already to be financially more than fine with yt, twitch and tournaments... still a lot though xD
@@Mietchannel but the only point to growing your channel is to make money. Viper is suggesting that even he doesn't make that much money being the best player in the world winning all the tournaments.
@@darylgraham4313 guess it depends what u want in life,streaming to a small audience with a fixed contract might be boring to him
lol MBL complaining was the funniest thing
Viper sounds and plays like Daut Pocket this game :D
why hera kept making useless skirms vs cav all game and why he didnt make gunpowder units with Portugal ? LMAO
i am on heras side
18k is much but money isnt everything
if he dont need it really much and prefer to do what he likes i understand him
if he would move to facebook he would get the money but lose very much viewers i think
so its maybe not worth on the long run
@@HolyShitNew with 18k a month, who cares, viewer count can only grow from 0. Invest the cash and double it. Hera is popular in Aoe2 community, especially now, if he made a sudden return to twitch from facebook, it would get a lot of exposure and a lot would follow him to fb.
Its really a risk free thing, and you get 18k a month, if its not a scam that is.
yeah maybe it would get him more money but i think its better to enjoy doing it on the way he is doing it then if he has to stream on facebook with a lot less viewers
he would have to decide for the money or for what he is enjoying more and when he has enough money to not have problems he has the opportunity to decide for what he prefers
18k a month is a ton of money, it was a bad idea to not take it, but I also doubt it was real. 216k a year for some small streamer of an old game with a relatively small viewer population? Doesn't really add up
@@HolyShitNew lots of people get paid a hell of a lot less thank 18k a month to do something they don't even like. Hera would still be doing the same thing at the end of the day and could still post to RUclips probably
MBL is good for the stream.
An Indian guy with glasses. Let me guess, physics, mathematics, or medicine?
@@onepalproductions Finance
30:04 MBL so used to laming, he even lamed the garrison space on viper's castle, almost screwing him over. XD
11:00 Viper, you're still talking about it haha. Gives us an indication of what you were getting from Mixer (a few thousand a month?). But you must still be making your own small fortune (deservedly), especially back on Twitch again. Last night you must've makde at least $2k alone.
how can they see the relics from the beginning?
Burmese team bonus
Turning down 18k offer during Coronavirus is even more stupid.
what is my main objective as a pocket? (how can they see each other without market?)
Spam Paladins like madmen.
They can see the exploration of each other because hera is portugese, its their teambonus
Main objective differs from game to game, your rushing distance is bigger so you could either build scouts and support your flank or try to go for a fast castle and be stronger later in the game for example
But you are not forced to play as aggressive as in a flanks position
since you are further away from your enemies as a pocket you usually want to go for mobile units. scouts into knights is the most common choice of units, especially since your flank most likely goes for archers and you usually want to have one player having a ranged unit and one playing as "meat shield" in front. and since you are most likely less pressured in the pocket position you should also focus on getting extra tcs up as fast as possible to get quick an economic advantage while not letting your flank die.
Viper, how much did you get from Mixer?
5€
@@HolyShitNew It's only five dollah
5 deutsche Mark
So noone is talking about TheViper laming 4 sheep from his briton ally?
Mr Hutmus laming the lamer
I think he's wrong too, to not accept the offer. 8.000 is a huge amount. 1 year with that, and you almost secure all your future. And the excuse that he's not accepting now, but will accept in the future, when they offer more money... i think they don't will offer more money, in fact, i think they will offer less because he will be needed the money... but, everyone has a different view. (srry for the bad english, love your channel btw)
Hera was offered $18,000/month to stream on Facebook 😂 🤣😂 🤣
Yeah, and let me know when Elvis gets here.
Hilarious game!!
$18,000 A MONTH!!!! BAD LOOK FOR MY BOY HERA.
Im a simple person. I see Team Daniel and I click
I still don't understand what pocket means in the aoe context
In 3v3s or 4v4s the player/players between two most furthest players are called pocket. They are further away from their enemy and have more allies nearby thus have a safer game. The other 2 players closer to the enemy are called "flank" player. In this game for example Viper and Daniel are pocket players and Hera and MbL are flank players.
@@burakyesil4269 thanks
@@burakyesil4269 thanks, that was very helpful!
Nice team nice game
mbl the most of the time you are sound fucking
drunken:) and i love yo for that
GOOOOOOOOOOO MAGYARRRRRRRR
There is some sound financial advice at the beginning of this. 20 year olds, listen up
No chance Hera got offered that lol.
You had 150 pop and you slung all your gold and food instead of making units 🤔
Dude nobody who is serious with that shit would ever move over to FB. Even if the decline means means turning down $20k that doesn’t make you “rich” like Viper (🖤) says lol. Way more smart to grow your channel as much as possible. Ask DrDisrespect about this lol
i can´t work cause you are uploading daily videos!
No lockdown? Nice.
@@satyakisil9711 working at home
I miss "scheißdorf" :(
I dont, I think he is trying to say "Scheiss drauf" (basically the same as the expression "fuck it") but he is saying "shit village" instead...
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Andi Unruh hahaha
untertitel geben manchmal lustige ergebnisse
Daniel riut lima?
My favourite players and Daniel awesome
@5:17 he lost hunted food?
No, when you build any eco building (lumbercamp, mining camp, mill, tc) any res you are holding goes to your bank.
@@quakesquakes i've lost hours of my life bringing back resources. thank you man!
@@themetallicafan87 NP, same with me.
@@themetallicafan87 Also, the res is banked once the building is complete and applies to all the vils building it at that point.
Is it just eco Building?
They are young guys they are young... I am done. :xDDDDD The truth might hurts sometimes. :xD
18k a month? PogChamp
Hi Mixer!
I think they should make the Magyar elite unit have plus one reach like the steppe lancer
That would be absolutely broken on that unit that's a very bad idea
@@michaelcross7665 absolutely. The Magyar unit is not bad as it is. I love it personally. Maybe 1 extra attack or 10 more HP, but it's still good as is. Even Viper ranked it B or A tier, I can't remember which
lmao
Viper is a greedy boy, not everything in life is money
Valentin Bonani it is when ur nearing 30
Only when you have money do you think it isn't the answer to most problems
That offer is bullshit for sure
gg
Being rich doesn't mean having lots of money.
MBL lmfao
teal is not enough good to join this match.lower level
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I'm sure Hera's annoyed that he opened the Facebook can of worms. But still, 18K a month is $216,000 a year before taxes. There's sellout, and then there's more than what Surgeons make. Maybe he meant it was 1.8K a month, which sounds much more reasonable for a streamer. As such, it DOES seem too good to be true. Hera's a great player, obviously, but there are very few people who are $216k a year great. Smells awfully fishy to me, so I'm glad he turned Facebook down, if it actually was Facebook.
Again, he really shouldn't have opened that can of worms, but people put their foot in their months all the time.
Depending on where he lives in Canada (?), it's not more than what surgeons make.
Came for Viper left cause of Daniel
first comment
gg
Does anyone else kinda lowkey hate mbl?
no
Not at all no. All the AOE2 players are super chill
He can be annoying but nah, he's alright. Hate is a strong word to be throwing around.
No, you're just jealous because you can't walk through de elephants.