Osiris, Lord of the Dead - Mythillogical Podcast
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- Опубликовано: 18 янв 2022
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This time, the late Charles and Crofty venture into the dark and dangerous paths of the Egyptian underworld, to encounter the Lord of the Dead, Osiris, learn of his murder and restoration, and hopefully be granted resurrection by him.
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Great stuff as always. I'm not qualified to be pedantic and fault you for any mispronunciations of Ancient Egyptian/Greek, etc. terms, but I am qualified to be pedantic about that of 'revered', which is pronounced 'reh-VEERD' and not 'REH-veerd'. Anyway, glad to have come across your channel and this fantastic series especially - you're both clearly passionate and have some excellent academic rigour in contrast to many (more amateur/less rigorous) channels. Thanks for your work, lads!
1:53:30 the story of Isis nursing the queens child and attempting to burn away his mortality is almost identical to a story in the Homeric Hymn to Demeter, where after wandering the earth looking for Persephone she ends up in a small kingdom and in thanks for their generocity tries to burn away the queen's son's mortality before being stopped and leaving him mortal
As an Egyptian and an avid lover of Mythology, i'm so happy that i have all the books you mentioned except the academic papers. It's the first time, i can follow up and read up or even re-read after listening to this! Wish i knew of your channel earlier!
Impressive! 😊
I LOVE reading the Papyrus of Ani (the Book of The Dead) It’s amazing and the scenes which were painted on this papyrus over 3,000 years ago, are Gorgeous 🪲✨✨
Read them to me
This is a bit backwards but I discovered your RUclips channel through the Spotify podcast. This channel is a goldmine and this podcast is exactly what I've been looking for when it comes to myths.
Same same
Please do more on Egyptian mythology or any mythology, I really enjoyed this x
my earliest memory of ancient Egyptian mythology was that I always remember lending an audiobook of Roger Lancelyn Green's Tales of Ancient Egypt from my schools reading room. The tape it had a very vivid pastel blue colour and was narrated by Alex Jennings I also remember making Egyptian tombs from cardboard
Love the podcast and The Histocrat channel in general, this has become one of my favorite history RUclips channels. I hope to see a lot more from you in the future.
When is part 2 of the “At the Mountains of Kong” coming out? That was fantastic
Yes, would love to hear more!
Agreed, very intriguing.
Lul big facts
Never
For a history lover who cannot work in his field, this channel is like a godsend present!
History with Cy and Stefan Milosevic are two other good channels
@@andybeans5790 Yes indeed, I love Cy! There is also History Time, and Voices from the past - these are also brilliant.
Bless x
This was fantastic. Thank you.
I’m 4 minutes in and I think this could be my favorite episode in the series so far.
You can't imagine how much I appriciate your podcasts. 👍
Regards from Germany!
Dem kann ich nur zustimmen 👍🏼
Cool to hear you touch on Maat and the Duat; I recall both of these from the Nile album Annihilation of the Wicked. The band's lyrics are mostly about Egypt's mythology/history. The tracks are User-Maat-Re and The Burning Pits of the Duat.
I'm only about halfway through the video at the moment, so you may touch on more, but thanks for the content all the same.
Nile is gawddamn Amazing! 🤘🏻
You guys did a fantastic job of this. It is a deeply twisted narrative, as all mythologies are.
Unas whole tomb interior was excavated and is now in the Field Museum in Chicago. It was amazing to see the mortuary complex in detail.
Any thoughts on doing Mississipean culture? Cahokia, Etowah, Angel Mounds? If so, these were my areas of study, along with early aboriginal first nations.
I feel like Crofty is finding his voice and I love it.
You guys rock! Thank you for your effort and work.
I second seeing you guys dive into the Mississipeans! Chawtaw stories talk about finding the mounds long abandoned when we migrated eastward in our earliest histories! The mounds were considered a sign that we might finally have reached our new home. And the total absence whoever built the mounds was considered the Sun's clear statement that "this land is our land".
My dad has researched the archaeology of the mounds and the surrounding tribes since I was born!
Just discovered this channel. It's already a favorite.
When you were discussing sin and the weight of the heart - Crofty mentions ways to "reduce the burden". I've always found ancient religions to be "flexible" in both practice and interpretation. Within reason, surely there are ways Egyptians could "cast spells" or something?
the only bad thing about following the podcast, is that I've already heard it.
Hell ya. Look forward to this series so much. Super interesting as always. Can't wait for the next.
Also if you guys wanna spice the intro music up a bit (I am like 99% sure it is currently some Skyrim lute music), check out some microtonal guitar suites. There's a fantastic musician/professor here on youtube named Tolgahan Cogulu if you want to see some examples. It definitely has a great sound that would be appropriate for a lot of these podcasts. Anyways, feel free to not bother either. We're here for the history, the ambience is just a bonus.
It'd be interesting to hear your take on Inanna/Ishtar and her influence on later mythology.
Ishtar is isis. Fake gods. Many more names for the same person. Just like osiris
There are also elements of the Isis myth that seem very similar to the account of Moses being floated down the Nile and recovered by Pharaoh's daughter.
Yes, that happens in the epic of Gilgamesh too
The bible is based on a lot of mythology
Romulus and Remus, too, except it was the Tiber, not the Nile
Wrong
@@CM-le1yb lol
This is some of the best introduction to the Mythos you can get. Gratias maxime tibi ago!
Man every one these is so good!
Powerslave!!!!! I love you guys.
This'll keep me going for a few days!
Liked straight away for Bob Flemming 😂
I'd imagine Osiris being king would mean that his arm was used for the Cubit and well... measuring his afterwards would be simple.
No
Osiris: Schrodinger's first "cat". Is he dead or isn't he? No one knows until the box is opened.
He's dead until the end times
Thank you
Hope your back gets better*!
P.S. I love yr channel💕👍😻
I'm watching this in the spring time. Good day mates
Wow, thanks for uploading. I'm still learning pre-history ha so I'll be catching up soon to this.
Thanks!
I’m looking forward to this guys 👍
Edit ps I’m just here for the pronunciations 😎
90s british comedy is something i know nothing about.
i feel special.
Love your interaction with Crofty, sorry Bob Fuming or what that name is that I have never heard before.
Bob Fleming, a character from The Fast Show
Excited for this. Need inspiration.
You guys know about the band Nile? All their lyrics are heavily based on actual religious texts of Ancient Egypt throughout the ages, from pyramid texts to coffin texts to book of the dead and even singular spells and rituals of the living. They have numerous songs relevant to the content of this video, Unas Slayer of the Gods, Burning Pits of Duat, User Ma’at Ra, etc. It’s pretty extreme stuff but super neat, the album notes usually have little blurbs about the songs and real inspirations
Wow you two researched the youknowwhat out of this topic! Lovely bibliographies, and i want to try Skillshare for music at least which I have studied hard since age 65+🤟. Anywho, i had a new thought today 💡 around @34’ with the brilliant Crofty and you: they tell the standard lies about judgement based on a life review scenario for the afterlife. The Pharaoh ALWAYS comes back because he is immortal in that way kind of like the Dalai Lama, but Joe six pack may get his soul consumed by the Alligator God, i guess. That seems to explain the Osiris myth of being chopped up into 12 pieces. That Isis reassembles. Thanks 🙏🏻
Great episode mate. We want Kong 2.
Up the Irons!
Best channel
He is mentioned by name in Powerslave: 'Enter the risen Osiris, risen again'.
Aka anti christ
Thanks once more!
Looking forward to your upcoming upload about Count D. (aka V. T.)
1:56:17 That sounds a lot like Leto, Python and Apollo.
Oh yes!!!!!!! Woohoo!!!!! That’s my Wednesday sorted!!! Straight into bed after work!!!! Woohoo!!!🙏🙏🙏🤣🤣
Haha just found these guys, superb bedtime listening, at the mo with a glass of red 👍
@@justing1474 welcome to the party! Enjoy!! 🙏
I was first exposed to ancient egyptian mythology through Pharaoh, the 1999 city-builder for PC, and through the books of Christian Jacq, which I read in the 00s as well.
It's weird hearing the voice that puts me to sleep acting like a normal bloke.
Great voice bro 👍
The podcast of the ill.
1:12:37. Honestly sounds like something the Death Metal Band Nile would use as they use a lot of Ancient Egyptian mythology for their lyrics
If only Charles could learn to say "Revered" - Re-Veered. Seriously though, I love your podcasts, they get me through the working day. ;)
Awesome cast lads! Get well soon boys 💜
Age of Mythology was the shit! Great childhood game
Note that Plutarch also records the story of Theseus, one of the great King of Athens foiling a murderer. This guy had a bed. If you were to short, you were stretch ala rack to it's size. if you were too big, you're limbs where cut to match it's size. Theseus got the guy to lie down on the bed. /shrug
Crofty "that would stop me sinning"
Charles, completely unbothered about getting eaten by a crocodile man: meh
I have Richard H. Wikinson's book as well!
This is not a myth this was the old golden age and I'm very much alive thank you!
I'm taxing the term "slice of fried gold". ~15:00
Yay!!! This is going to make my day.
Looking forward to the Vlad the Impaler discussion 👍🏼
Nice MST3K reference!
@1:44:54 I have followed blogs from Hungary/Danube and they speak of the Finn/Maygar having a pure Christ-like figure whom you know is He because of the thousand eyes that turn into white doves/Turul Falcons. the 'O' sound was the sound of 'The Free' and their religion was Sun based and of 'The Free'. The Hungarians of Ancient times also infiltrated into the Nile Delta to mine the Black Soils as they had been doing at the Danube Delta. They were there in earliest Egyptian times and were eventually tossed out by the upper sub-saharan Pharaohs (look at the sphinx of Pharaoh Khayan). Possibly they were the builders of the ancient effigies. When the Danube peoples were chased out (it was they who introduced horses and chariots) they settled in Uru-Salem and were the KOS.
The Thousand eyes spoke to me jogging my memory!
They identify with Heiro as the Christ-like figure of 'The Free". Look up the names of Jerusalem where the KOS settled. Afterward the Horite Priesthood ... all linked.
Proud to say I'm part of the 1% :))))))
THE NEW MOVIE ‘THE GREEN KNIGHT’ IS AN ALLEGORY OF OSIRIS, THE GREEN ONE.
Shite film tho 👎
Do one on "The Beast of Gévaudan"
Congrats great video ... Thank you for ALL the content... From a Brazilian fan⚡⚡🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾
There is mention of Osiris death...it says he was chopped up by Set
Love the Iron Maiden reference guys...amazing channel....and hello from New York state🗽
You do amazing work. Thank you.
Osiris just turned from the darkness, into the light and is pulling the dead with him...as the Angel of Life starts the cycle again...⚁
Orientalist and egyptologist like to use the short chronology of 3200 bc. Manetho gave a long chronology as well beginning in 17000 bc. African civilization is way older than most contemporaries like to admit or know
When u was looking too link Oceanus I get confused, cuz I d k of pontus meant saltwater and Oceanus actually meant rivers, anyways id say the deity of the Nile closest would've been Hapi,,, no???
Can you make a video about king Solomon olz
Looking forward to Dracula
Best part: 1:14:53
I have a question is Osiris the same character as:
Aesir Loki in Nordic myths,
Asura Ravana in Hindu myths,
Yahwe in Judean myths,
Pluto in Roman myths,
Hades in Greek myths,
Bies (Veles) in Slavic myths?
Since all of those characters have the same meaning of name ("aesir"/"asura"/"osir(-is)"/"bies" means "one who is" or "entity") and are told to be invisible guardians of underground/afterlife
I might not be qualified to answer this, but no. They might share spheres of influence as well as nominal etymology, but they are not the same deities. Even if they might be extremely similar or even of the same source, each culture has its own, exclusive deities.
@@jerelehtonen8473 ah, ok so our difference in understanding definitions makes the difference.
For me, if they have the same source and un-changed spheres of influence since time of that source, they are the same diety, despite different rituals and cultures around them.
I'm skeptical about these names sharing roots. While I'm definitely aware of Aesir/Asura, the others either don't line up well with each other, or are from completely unrelated languages. Ancient Egyptian (and modern Egyptian, though a different branch), was a part of the Afro-Asiatic language family, while, with the exception of Hebrew YHWH, all the others are from Indo-European languages. Now, while there were some crossovers between those two groups, there's no evidence of that happening until much later than these names were derived. There is little agreement on the etymology on most of these names as well, especially (to my knowledge) Osiris and the tetragrammaton, and there is also a fair amount of debate over the origins of Hades and Pluto, though there's some hints that Hades may have originally been an aspect of Poseidon which was split off during the Greek dark ages.
These gods might have similar roles in their origin cultures (though I'm completely unfamiliar with Aesir Loki), but I think that's more of a factor of human nature, we're mostly asking the same questions, and mostly coming up with similar answers, we think about death, so we have death gods, we don't like thinking about bad things happening to us in the afterlife and a lot of us don't like the idea of people who don't deserve it getting in, so we think of a guardian, both of the dead and of death itself.
Jesus is Osiris
Mary is Isis
@@saxglend9439 The hell?
Osiris and Isis were siblings. And married.
17:49 It is called Copts, not "ancient Egyptians". But indeed no Copt have listened to this podcast before I wrote this comment (22.11.'23,136k views).
Hey guys, already heard the podcast but here's a view, comment and like for the algorithm 👍
2:00:00
Your guys are old enough to know iron maiden?! I don't feel so old now. Lol
Bacchus and/or Dionysus.
Hey! Drink or drown! In the sea of piss!
Too bad I'm aussie.... I just think that bacchus and dionysus are both uber cool.
history makes me rock hard
"Dyoneshes"
It is startling to find the word hour to be from Roman, Greek, Babylonians *hora*
Horus referring to time? Sun. Sun god. Lol Father Time.
"The h- has persisted in this word despite not being pronounced since Roman times. Replaced Old English tid, literally "time" (see tide (n.)) and stund "period of time, point of time, hour," from Proto-Germanic *stundo (compare German Stunde "hour"), which is of uncertain origin. German Uhr likewise is from French.
Greek hora could mean "a season; 'the season' (spring or summer)." In classical times it sometimes meant "a part of the day," such as morning, evening, noon, night. The Greek astronomers apparently borrowed the notion of dividing the day into twelve parts (mentioned in Herodotus) from the Babylonians. Night continued to be divided into four watches (see watch (n.)); but because the amount of daylight changed throughout the year, the hours were not fixed or of equal length."
Measuring Horus body 24 hours in a day minus privates 26.
Wrong
15 minutes before they get in to the subject matter
I thot the sins were pronounced in the first person.
I have never _______.
I have never _____.
Tell me why I had to be a Powerslave!
What makes religious practices different from LARPing? I fundamentally can't tell a significant difference between them.
Well if we're getting technical LARPing is largely secular whereas religious practices are well religious.
"Keep circulating the tapes." Found the MST3K fan!
im apart of the 1 percent who doesnt know about bob flemming, greetings from florida
>Philosophy Tube
... Scorching Hot Maybe... But The Same Neighbourhood MMmmmmm?😂🏴
Pagan means any religion outside of the 3 Abrahamic religions
11 mins through. I dont have time for pop narratives about ancient Egypt
The Abrahamic Faiths are obviously mythology, akin Paganism, Hellenism and ETC.
Dumb
Awesome video, love your work.
Would you consider a cross-over shout out for our fans?
5:33 oh boy i am already tearing my hair out. right there, right there my friend you properly just showed my arguement in full. We dont say "hurculeez" anymore we acknowledge that it was a mistraslation of "heracleez". I ask so kindly if i can make a response to this video, because my reaction is already priceless and im only 5 minutes in.
Dude the last guy talking blows chunks just like my tooth less ...
Is there any way you all would do a podcast on the Hindu religion, and the many deities and forms of the deities in them?
Same religion different names
Starts at about 3.20. But it really gets sidetracked with biographical commentary unrelated to Egypt. This gets tedious. I get the sense that this chap doesnt care much about Egyptology.
A prosaic predictable choice. An unusual choice would have been Khonsu.