Now I'm SIDE EYEING JAY Z | Jay z's Lawyer is claiming DIDDY and Jay were NEVER FRIENDS

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  • Опубликовано: 23 дек 2024

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  • @ArmonWiggins
    @ArmonWiggins  7 дней назад +26

    Get your 60 day Manifestation journal here a.co/d/c4HOWGL

  • @queenteats3548
    @queenteats3548 7 дней назад +717

    2024 hasn’t had a boring day yet

    • @GilbyMinaj
      @GilbyMinaj 7 дней назад

      Like the drones invading the USA 🇺🇸 🛸 for the last 3-4 weeks. ?! 👀

    • @Wifee-je4eq
      @Wifee-je4eq 7 дней назад +19

      Man what 😂😂

    • @shiningstar5678
      @shiningstar5678 7 дней назад +18

      Facts!!!

    • @Sassyminaj
      @Sassyminaj 7 дней назад +14

      Fr I might be next 🤣💀

    • @LoveAlwaysAndBeyond
      @LoveAlwaysAndBeyond 7 дней назад +34

      Katt Williams kicked it off!😂😂😂

  • @veronicasims6285
    @veronicasims6285 7 дней назад +322

    Serious Side eye. He tried it - not going to work. Jay Z thinks he’s a warlock and he’s just gonna magically erase our memories and recorded documented history .😂

    • @josinaa9638
      @josinaa9638 7 дней назад +21

      Not a warlock 😂😂😂😂!

    • @tiffanyjay20
      @tiffanyjay20 7 дней назад +4

      😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

    • @uspeak7
      @uspeak7 7 дней назад +2

      💯🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @princesssheabutter
      @princesssheabutter 7 дней назад +13

      He is a warlock he's not pretending

    • @mrs.haynes-r5z
      @mrs.haynes-r5z 7 дней назад +6

      He's a vampire

  • @soft.pretty.pink.lifeandroses
    @soft.pretty.pink.lifeandroses 7 дней назад +773

    500+ pictures together but they’re not friends 😂, they got more pictures together than married couples.

    • @Anon92456
      @Anon92456 7 дней назад +18

      😂

    • @msrednosepit8434
      @msrednosepit8434 7 дней назад +12

      😂😂

    • @48MedUSA33
      @48MedUSA33 7 дней назад +18

      And one out of only 2 people that can call him(diddler) Sean ?! ^^
      Oh,wasn't one of the diddlers boys in a intervju saying something about Jay-Z beeing like a uncle fig or something???

    • @MarchellMatthews
      @MarchellMatthews 7 дней назад +7

      Yea that’s f up

    • @supersizedbeauty6824
      @supersizedbeauty6824 7 дней назад +28

      @@soft.pretty.pink.lifeandroses taking photos with people doesn't make you friends. Business partners don't make you friends either

  • @garealemcgill6967
    @garealemcgill6967 7 дней назад +111

    Jay Z does NOT care for anyone he will step on BEYONCE just to save his damn self 🙄 😒 and yall still don't see it

  • @whyyfelipe
    @whyyfelipe 7 дней назад +395

    The Seans are fighting!!!

  • @Elizabeth-so8od
    @Elizabeth-so8od 7 дней назад +267

    The way that Puffy tapped Jay z bootie on stage they more than friends 😅

    • @jack30ny1
      @jack30ny1 7 дней назад +7

      😮😮😂

    • @Onyxraye
      @Onyxraye 7 дней назад

      Men tap booties in the locker rooms. Be so fr

    • @lauren2108
      @lauren2108 7 дней назад +6

      WTH

    • @Dideeeee
      @Dideeeee 7 дней назад +19

      And the way he was cool with it?👀

    • @truthbetold6011
      @truthbetold6011 7 дней назад +6

      Exactly I just wrote that 🥴

  • @IAMDARCYLOVE
    @IAMDARCYLOVE 7 дней назад +202

    Next Jay Z gonna say he dont know Damon Dash 🙄

    • @Bcryptic278
      @Bcryptic278 7 дней назад +17

      Werd! WHO TF HE THINK he FOOLIN?! However I'm NOT SURPRISED JAYZ a SAVAGE SAGITTARIUS ♐! Their KNOWN to be SELFISH NON LOYAL NARCISSIST.....for example OFFSET‼️😅

    • @williesween8780
      @williesween8780 7 дней назад +8

      Well, Jay hasn’t talked to Dame in 20 plus years. So he doesn’t know Dame at this point.

    • @melissav6
      @melissav6 7 дней назад +3

      😂😂😂😂

    • @darkskinkeisha
      @darkskinkeisha 7 дней назад +7

      @williesween8780 idk how they haven’t talked in 20 plus years when dame said himself jay has apologized since then & if im not mistaken dame admitted this a years ago. Yall wanna rewrite history sooooo bad to defend someone who doesn’t even know you. & no love everyone isn’t you , I’ve had ex besties & never & still don’t say idk them I just say “we’re no longer friends but I do know of them” . Y’all are so bias

    • @ChocolateTah84
      @ChocolateTah84 7 дней назад

      @@darkskinkeishaSis they are just like him

  • @lizashley8414
    @lizashley8414 7 дней назад +205

    Diddy won't be happy when he hears this😂😂😂

    • @lilineg2193
      @lilineg2193 7 дней назад +10

      Exactly💯🤣

    • @Unique_Melanie
      @Unique_Melanie 7 дней назад +11

      Yep!! I wonder if the Diddy kids going to try to roll up on Jay like they did Ray J 😂

    • @nettegee726
      @nettegee726 7 дней назад +7

      I'M FUCCINGGGG CRYYYYYINGGG 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

    • @nettegee726
      @nettegee726 7 дней назад +2

      ​@@Unique_MelanieMANNNNNNN 😭😭😭😭😭

    • @tonyapinkston9952
      @tonyapinkston9952 7 дней назад +2

      Just turned into a co- defendant 😅

  • @ncuthukaziwebber1890
    @ncuthukaziwebber1890 7 дней назад +55

    This is not surprising. Jay Z drops people like hot potatoes once he's done with them

  • @Dee-h1l9g
    @Dee-h1l9g 7 дней назад +348

    Definitely besties. I am from New York and when Jay Z had his exhibit at the Brooklyn library, EVERY section had at least 2 or 3 pictures with him and Diddy.

    • @naturallynailah6983
      @naturallynailah6983 7 дней назад +42

      Business.... think about we've never seen them in any private situations, no vacations or anything. Just business stuff, award shows, parties and events but nothing personal

    • @pbebe438
      @pbebe438 7 дней назад +12

      @@naturallynailah6983but we never see them doing personal stuff either that’s the point

    • @naturallynailah6983
      @naturallynailah6983 7 дней назад +22

      @@pbebe438 how so? I've beyonce bday parties with Jay friends there, no puff. Vacations with everyone but puff there. kids events no puff or his kids.
      We have seen ALL of diddy real life (not industry) parties and guess who wasn't there Jay or Bey.

    • @servdv
      @servdv 7 дней назад +8

      @@naturallynailah6983 they do not think no problem we see him with bey all the time yea they probably support each other heavy that does not make them best friends.

    • @MrslovaLova_hmm
      @MrslovaLova_hmm 7 дней назад +27

      They probably were friends. But JayZ did the same to Dame Dash and Rkelly - deserted them when they needed him. That’s his MO: all about looking out from himself. He also never defended Ye even when he was his big brother and when Ye was scrutinized for defending Beyoncé in that Taylor Swift thing

  • @LoveAlwaysAndBeyond
    @LoveAlwaysAndBeyond 7 дней назад +172

    Katt Williams kicked off 2024 with the Tea ☕️ and we’ve been entertained all year! 💅🏾💅🏾💅🏾

    • @lovinglatonya3499
      @lovinglatonya3499 7 дней назад +5

      💯💯💯

    • @sistasoujax
      @sistasoujax 7 дней назад +7

      Just waiting on Uncle Murda’s Rap up 😩

    • @kyralynn5967
      @kyralynn5967 7 дней назад +3

      @@sistasoujaxright 😂😂😂😂

    • @mrsx7944
      @mrsx7944 7 дней назад +2

      My head hasn't stopped spinning since that Katt Williams interview. Everyday it's some new ness. SMH

    • @hermettawoodard2702
      @hermettawoodard2702 6 дней назад +1

      😂😂😂😂 yessss

  • @joellemarcozzi1316
    @joellemarcozzi1316 7 дней назад +314

    Jay and Bey are NOT innocent 💯🎯💯

    • @TvFanatic-ui3pw
      @TvFanatic-ui3pw 7 дней назад +19

      And i bet your proof is like this "victim"

    • @xoxoly8238
      @xoxoly8238 7 дней назад +15

      And the proof is where …

    • @spicyhot2552
      @spicyhot2552 7 дней назад

      ​@@TvFanatic-ui3pw😅

    • @lexilexi8548
      @lexilexi8548 7 дней назад +7

      And you are? 😂

    • @SheenyBeany3
      @SheenyBeany3 7 дней назад +15

      Now what is Beyonce guilty of. bird brain conspiracy theories

  • @successfulMillennial
    @successfulMillennial 7 дней назад +64

    Puff about to tell it all😅😅😅😅

    • @nitaboo008
      @nitaboo008 6 дней назад +9

      Right! I'm wondering if this will piss him off and he'll start saying stuff

    • @zerdellbui8979
      @zerdellbui8979 6 дней назад +3

      Jay better watch it😐

  • @Laurina5152
    @Laurina5152 7 дней назад +85

    You're spot on, Armon! If he can just drop Diddy as a friend so easily, that's cold-blooded. I'm giving him the side-eye now too. It's one thing to set your lawyers on that money-hungry attorney and let bygones be bygones, but to claim you were never friends? That make me wonder, hmmm... And now, I'm starting to see Dame Dash's point of view. How painful it must have been to be betrayed by someone he considered a friend.

    • @Khaizos
      @Khaizos 7 дней назад

      He dropped Kanye like he is nothing so is Dame…he is evil I think even if bey divorces him he will off her

    • @hopesdaughter5947
      @hopesdaughter5947 7 дней назад +10

      💯 yes, someone he actually considered a brother.

    • @Laurina5152
      @Laurina5152 7 дней назад +7

      @@hopesdaughter5947 EXACTLY. Also, just imagine how Diddy’s kids are feeling about what their so-called, “Unc Jay” said! WHAT A BLOW TO THE GUT and HURTFUL. SMH. Jay is a COLD ONE.

    • @tijadusenbery1877
      @tijadusenbery1877 7 дней назад

      Ya’ll in these comments are funny as hell like Diddy wouldn’t do the same damn thing if it was the other way around lol. Where’s the shock in this? What ya expect this nigga to do? Stand 10 toes down for a man as deplorable as Puff lol. This is a typical street nigga move. Jay Z is looking out for hisself and family. He don’t care how many pictures they got…..” Officer I don’t know that man like that.” lol. The average man would do the same thing if he was in this position. I’m not saying it’s right I just get the play he’s doing by distancing himself from Puff.

    • @BabyGirlTiny
      @BabyGirlTiny 6 дней назад

      @@Laurina5152y’all really living in yalls delusion lmfao. Jay Z don’t consider them kids his family and never did. Y’all just made that up.

  • @savvyAKAgyrl
    @savvyAKAgyrl 7 дней назад +88

    Jay is shaaaaady for that one

  • @Khaizos
    @Khaizos 7 дней назад +37

    YALL NEED TO KNOW ON CASSIE’s lawsuit SHE SPECIFICALLY MENTIONED “JAYZ’s PARTY”…apparently him & bey witness diddy assaulting Cassie then continued being friends with him AFTER…remember diddy trial is coming

  • @Zayisillin
    @Zayisillin 7 дней назад +52

    Seriously where is Wendy Williams when you need her 🥲🐸

  • @Moneylove23765
    @Moneylove23765 7 дней назад +329

    This exactly why I bypassed your first video last week. These ppl a mess.

    • @trulyunbothered1578
      @trulyunbothered1578 7 дней назад +77

      I bypassed that shit too 😂😂

    • @harriz2537
      @harriz2537 7 дней назад +9

      Hahaha exactly how someone who wants jay Z to fall down
      You have to be fair
      Listen to both parties
      Why skip the last video but watch the videos that make jay look
      Bad

    • @Moneylove23765
      @Moneylove23765 7 дней назад +49

      @@harriz2537 so…..you’re telling me Jay Z and Diddy have no relationship? That’s exactly why I didnt watch. Cause I’m not a fool. Also, I love Jay Z and Beyonce but again, I ain’t a fool.

    • @butterflyygyrlsworld5106
      @butterflyygyrlsworld5106 7 дней назад +4

      😂😂😂

    • @harriz2537
      @harriz2537 7 дней назад

      @@Moneylove23765 the last video was on the accuser story being fishy if you ddnt watch that. That’s one you

  • @Fannyyyyy_
    @Fannyyyyy_ 7 дней назад +27

    I almost snatched my own wig off within the first 6 seconds 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 haWHATTTTTTT you mean not friends!!!!

  • @MrslovaLova_hmm
    @MrslovaLova_hmm 7 дней назад +44

    They say Jayz sold crack to his own brother and shot his brother for owing him money. This dude does not kno me the word loyalty. That’s what he did to his OWN FAMILY. I hope Diddy talks to the Feds, especially after this statement😂

    • @debrakupsamy1539
      @debrakupsamy1539 7 дней назад +3

      I am SHOCKED, shot his own brother

    • @Mzpfpretti
      @Mzpfpretti 7 дней назад +5

      Yes!!!! Jay earlier music explains everything!!! It is very easy to see how he tolerates people in the industry but not friends!!!

    • @dontasklol1634
      @dontasklol1634 7 дней назад +2

      Exactly to watch him move over the years..this completely tracks.. we never would have thought he would turn on Dame

    • @KD2xs_
      @KD2xs_ 7 дней назад +4

      Exactlyyyyy!! people forget or didn't know JayZ been a snake and apart of all the foolery. He plays dirty behind everybody back, because he is all for himself.

  • @gin3205
    @gin3205 7 дней назад +29

    Nicki Minaj said ain't no friends in the game, you ain't learn that yet!

    • @Tam...
      @Tam... 7 дней назад +6

      And she is right... It's a business. Why the hell are you looking for friends at your job.
      .

    • @mrsx7944
      @mrsx7944 6 дней назад +1

      ​@@Tam...They were friends before they even got big though

    • @mrsx7944
      @mrsx7944 6 дней назад +3

      She's right. Most people aren't your friend they just want to be in your business

    • @Tam...
      @Tam... 6 дней назад +2

      @@mrsx7944 That is NOT true..The way ya'll make up lies is crazy work😩

    • @celined8836
      @celined8836 6 дней назад +2

      @@mrsx7944 facts

  • @tyeeali
    @tyeeali 7 дней назад +60

    they are both laying on beds together, taking pictures, but they are not friends. Very interesting.

  • @lynettepatrice2600
    @lynettepatrice2600 7 дней назад +45

    He messed up by saying that. We all heard them both independently say each is the only one who can call them Sean! There's clearly a bond of some kind. For the lawyer to say that, it calls other things into question. What else are they trying to sweep under the rug??

    • @canon60458
      @canon60458 7 дней назад +6

      Yes. A professional bond like he said. You never had work friends?

    • @ILoveTheAllCreator
      @ILoveTheAllCreator 7 дней назад +1

      ​@@canon60458Stop speaking like you know these people personally. Stay in your lane, babygirl

    • @canon60458
      @canon60458 7 дней назад +2

      @@ILoveTheAllCreatornot speaking like I know them. I’ve giving my opinion on what has always been my perception. His statement makes sense to me cuz that’s how I always viewed them. Others can see it differently which is obvious because the internet definitely made them best friends

    • @BabyGirlTiny
      @BabyGirlTiny 6 дней назад

      @@ILoveTheAllCreatoryou say, as everyone is claiming that Jay and dig were best friends based on absolutely nothing but pictures at public events lmfao

  • @lynettepatrice2600
    @lynettepatrice2600 7 дней назад +46

    So Jay-Z basically just finally publicly denounced Diddy.

    • @maggiesamson337
      @maggiesamson337 6 дней назад +4

      Diddy is going to crash out🤣 Remember when that jail call leaked and he asked his kids about J? 🤣🤣🤣

  • @veronicasims6285
    @veronicasims6285 7 дней назад +81

    Watch evidence and pictures of Diddy and Jay Z together start to slowly get scrubbed and disappear of the Internet.

    • @debbiechambers9302
      @debbiechambers9302 7 дней назад +3

      Diddy is probably kicking the cell bars and screaming right now!!😂😂😂

    • @mrsx7944
      @mrsx7944 7 дней назад +1

      Definitely. it's why I don't trust Google

    • @mrsx7944
      @mrsx7944 7 дней назад +4

      Kamala Harris did the same with her father

    • @LadySweet777
      @LadySweet777 6 дней назад

      The bloggers gottem

    • @BabyGirlTiny
      @BabyGirlTiny 6 дней назад +1

      You mean pictures of them at public events?? Because then that means everyone who has taken a picture with diddy at a public event is his friend and should get it scrubbed

  • @flowerybee3729
    @flowerybee3729 7 дней назад +218

    Who needs enemy with friends like Jay Z 😢. Such an obvious lie as we all remember Diddy stating only his mum & Jay Z were allowed to call him Sean‼️‼️‼️

    • @MsJared1994
      @MsJared1994 7 дней назад +12

      OMG I JUST SAID THAT !!!!!!!! Factssssssss

    • @b.michelle2393
      @b.michelle2393 7 дней назад +11

      And Jay Z said the same thing about him!

    • @melissav6
      @melissav6 7 дней назад +1

      💯💯💯💯

    • @KahtiaMusic
      @KahtiaMusic 7 дней назад

      Probably because they have the same first name lol

    • @AngeBiampandou
      @AngeBiampandou 7 дней назад

      ​@@b.michelle2393When Jay-Z even said that. A white girl said that on Tiktok and y'all run with it. He did many David Letterman interview and never even said that

  • @Theymama2004
    @Theymama2004 7 дней назад +112

    Armon, I'm not in the mood! It ain't no damn conspiracy! Nobody with that much power IS EVER CLEAN!!

    • @DAnthony14
      @DAnthony14 7 дней назад +16

      Exactly !!!! People need to stop tryna play blind.

    • @ChocolateTah84
      @ChocolateTah84 7 дней назад +13

      @@DAnthony14they are idolizing these folks. Sheeple

    • @ochacal7794
      @ochacal7794 7 дней назад +1

      So why not do that to guys who have 100 or 200 billions, why a black man who has 3 bil? why, he is not in forbe 100, why conspire about him?

    • @ayaNjah
      @ayaNjah 7 дней назад +1

      ​@@ochacal7794Selective much?? Did you miss all the white male celebs, CEOs, billionaires etc. that were exposed? Prince Andrew, Epstein, Weinstein, Army Hammer, Kevin Spacey, Dan Schneider! And many more.. Tf step out of your bubble!

  • @EHCBunny4real
    @EHCBunny4real 7 дней назад +147

    JZ's lawyer did his best Keke Palmer. "Sorry to this man."

    • @victoriar5965
      @victoriar5965 7 дней назад +2

      😂😂

    • @DontTakeItLiteral
      @DontTakeItLiteral 7 дней назад +1

      😭😭😭

    • @bellaiarose
      @bellaiarose 7 дней назад

      😂😂😂😂

    • @cw2424
      @cw2424 7 дней назад

      😭😭😭😭😂😂 yesss

    • @NC-tt4gc
      @NC-tt4gc 7 дней назад +2

      I thought he pulled a Mariah "I don't know her".

  • @uhnyia
    @uhnyia 7 дней назад +40

    If you watch the interview with DeHaven, you wouldn’t be surprised Jay-Z is denying friendships… yikess

    • @mykhaelbrandon
      @mykhaelbrandon 7 дней назад

      Kanye, Dame, RKelly, other people. JZ and Bey seem fake af and will put their money over friendship

  • @riteousone2619
    @riteousone2619 7 дней назад +170

    They playing in everyone’s face. I’m an 80’s baby, came up in the 90’s. Social media is new. We been knew all of these so-called allegations about these celebrities. EVERYONE!!!!!! Your favorite’s fave……Y’all are new, those of us that came up on hip hop KNOW WHAT THE TRUTH IS….These allegations are NOT FAR FETCHED….,IJS🤦🏽‍♀️🤷🏽‍♀️🤷🏽‍♀️🤷🏽‍♀️🤷🏽‍♀️🤷🏽‍♀️

    • @savvyAKAgyrl
      @savvyAKAgyrl 7 дней назад +17

      Agree. 80's baby here too

    • @daniellegrant9252
      @daniellegrant9252 7 дней назад +27

      Agreed he’s clearly disassociating himself but we know it’s dirt in the water.

    • @lovinglatonya3499
      @lovinglatonya3499 7 дней назад +15

      All the way from the Source Awards when Suge called him out😂

    • @MFBURNS7909
      @MFBURNS7909 7 дней назад +9

      Unless someone is at the very least 35,they don't know diddy and Z and all the others in this. 35 is probably being too nice 😅

    • @sistasoujax
      @sistasoujax 7 дней назад +16

      Not far fetched AT ALLLL. I always say I can tell one’s age bracket by what they comment on these topics 😩

  • @purplebutterfly8888
    @purplebutterfly8888 7 дней назад +47

    Beyoncé and Jay Z were never married, just business partners.

  • @RetroDutch77
    @RetroDutch77 7 дней назад +31

    This looks good Armon crystal clear babeee

  • @diva146
    @diva146 7 дней назад +14

    Dame dash was right all along he been saying Jay a snake.

  • @1smartmom2024
    @1smartmom2024 7 дней назад +131

    This speaks to why people want him to be humbled, because he thinks he's smarter than everybody

    • @DAnthony14
      @DAnthony14 7 дней назад +22

      The audacity of him especially looking the way he be looking 😂😂 he ain’t who he think he is 🤦🏽‍♂️

    • @plwhite40
      @plwhite40 7 дней назад +2

      @@DAnthony14amen

    • @missraeray
      @missraeray 7 дней назад +4

      @@DAnthony14I still can’t believe with that face he cheated on Bey

    • @ochacal7794
      @ochacal7794 7 дней назад

      He has almost 3 billion dollars and you are broke, maybe he is smarter than you... Jealous!!! you will never going UP because you are a evil one, wanting someone to lose everything just because

    • @ochacal7794
      @ochacal7794 7 дней назад

      @@missraeray so he only could if he was handsome... you stupid, he has money, power and influence,

  • @shoonkey
    @shoonkey 7 дней назад +34

    More than friends , intimate intimate .

  • @1Davine1
    @1Davine1 7 дней назад +46

    His lawyer gave a whole PowerPoint presentation. It was giving…over doing it, like there is something to try to cover up.

    • @lorenzobailey2860
      @lorenzobailey2860 7 дней назад +2

      What??? How the hell is proving your innocent with facts, over doing it? Sorry, but you sound remedial for this statement.

    • @celined8836
      @celined8836 6 дней назад

      @@lorenzobailey2860 because why do u have a whole powerpoint when ppl know about your dirt already SHORT BUS

    • @celined8836
      @celined8836 6 дней назад

      @@lorenzobailey2860 do we need to bring FREE to the stand to ?? lmao oh ok

  • @jazzyjujubee4493
    @jazzyjujubee4493 7 дней назад +52

    However Diddy was asking about Jay on the jail call talking to Christian lol Now he wanna distance himself like he did Kanye when they started calling him crazy! Same move different player I can't stand Jay y'all need to catch up we don't know this man

    • @FoougieTV
      @FoougieTV 7 дней назад +1

      That was AI, sis. You late. Puff did not ask about Jay on a call.

  • @Therealfibanks
    @Therealfibanks 7 дней назад +27

    Trying to distance himself after the fact instead of when he found out what was going on is the weird part

    • @lorenzobailey2860
      @lorenzobailey2860 7 дней назад

      No its not. If he did that, people would just scrutinize him for doing it earlier. However, the most important part is that he didn't want to get involved with the Diddy drama in the first place. Therefore, you just don't talk about it at all, unless you are forced to.

    • @tyrantmaloka1273
      @tyrantmaloka1273 7 дней назад

      ​@@lorenzobailey2860lol you are working overtime to prove him innocent huh .🤣🤣🤣

  • @Therealfibanks
    @Therealfibanks 7 дней назад +50

    Plus saying we not friends after reaping the benefits ALL THESE YEARS is wild af

    • @Bcryptic278
      @Bcryptic278 7 дней назад +3

      I LITERALLY JUST POST THIS With EXAMPLES to BACK IT UP 😅.....yeah JIGGA AIN'T FOOLING the FREE THINKERS ijs 🥱🙄🤣

    • @simplydeep2009
      @simplydeep2009 7 дней назад +1

      That's the industry.

    • @BabyGirlTiny
      @BabyGirlTiny 6 дней назад

      @@Bcryptic278your examples are that they took pictures at public business events lmfao

    • @Bcryptic278
      @Bcryptic278 6 дней назад

      @BabyGirlTiny honey I ain't NEVER said nothing bout pics lol I literally described their character traits and how they MUTUALLY BENEFITTED TOGETHER AFTER the DEMISE AND BLACKBALLIN of certain MORE TALENTED rappers that's all 👀😉🫠

  • @kenzoffgrid
    @kenzoffgrid 7 дней назад +28

    ppl use the term friend too loosely.

  • @Akire202
    @Akire202 7 дней назад +12

    Literally Piddy said JayZ and his momma the only people on earth that can call him Sean.

  • @kateriaknows
    @kateriaknows 7 дней назад +5

    Thanks for covering this.

  • @IvyWynne
    @IvyWynne 7 дней назад +31

    Jay Z to Diddy: If you get jammed up don't mention my name

  • @dionnehook7990
    @dionnehook7990 7 дней назад +10

    Have they ever been seen on vacation together? Having family day with the wives and kiddies? All I see are pics of them at events together. It's giving business, collaborations and being at places that the millionaires frequent. "Friends" is a strong word to me. I dnt have many. I can believe they were never friends.

    • @LS-ot9rp
      @LS-ot9rp 7 дней назад +6

      I’ve definitely heard one of Diddy’s sons call him uncle

    • @baileyhemsworth7857
      @baileyhemsworth7857 7 дней назад +6

      Are you slow

    • @LV84CC
      @LV84CC 7 дней назад

      🎯🎯🎯 i have homies like that too as a grown man i honestly don’t want you at my house in my personal space but ill
      Pull on you at a bar and we can kick it

    • @Imsmarterthanallyall
      @Imsmarterthanallyall 7 дней назад +4

      @@baileyhemsworth7857you must can’t comprehend well. Nothing she said gave “slow” !! You must don’t have a rebuttal

    • @Imsmarterthanallyall
      @Imsmarterthanallyall 7 дней назад

      @@LS-ot9rpoh you heard it yourself??

  • @laceygarrin7957
    @laceygarrin7957 7 дней назад +29

    The plot thickens 😊

  • @tramarparker7725
    @tramarparker7725 7 дней назад +12

    That don’t make them friends, just because we see them in pictures and stuff together don’t make them friends….two different labels two different teams…they just were both successful black men that was not beefing

    • @openworld6337
      @openworld6337 7 дней назад

      Exactly just because some one took a picture of them in bed together and other 500 plus picture don't mean they were friends... hell jay z in those probably clones using AI voices 😂😂

    • @canon60458
      @canon60458 7 дней назад

      @@openworld6337that was a club that has beds…🙄

    • @canon60458
      @canon60458 7 дней назад

      @@openworld6337it was a gimmick. But you think they were really in a bed in a room or something smh

    • @tonyapinkston9952
      @tonyapinkston9952 7 дней назад

      On the surface they were not beefing.....

  • @Calicandyy
    @Calicandyy 7 дней назад +50

    Super clear and high quality looking video good job Armon. And I agree this made me side eye Jay Z cuz it’s like come on now 😂😂

    • @TamekaMelvin
      @TamekaMelvin 7 дней назад +1

      Yes, his quality is amazing

  • @richajo
    @richajo 7 дней назад +10

    I feel like non of these celebrities are really truly friends! They only out for themselves. They appear to all be friends for business stake. All these celebrities be fronted in front of us the public.

  • @jahquehill8854
    @jahquehill8854 7 дней назад +9

    #1. Where are the tapes? #2. When diddy hears they aren't friends...will he be hurt/pissed feel abandoned/betrayed & start talking? It's all 😢sad.

    • @openworld6337
      @openworld6337 7 дней назад

      I heard diddy stopped doing bail and now trying for plea... jay z found out... and begun to panic...

  • @Nintendosa
    @Nintendosa 7 дней назад +28

    Jay Z is a BUSINESS man.
    Puffy is a PUBLIC man.
    I’m in MULTIPLE pictures with varying people that are in my working industry and that attend the same events that I do. I have even worked on projects with these people. That does not make them my “friend” and make me automatically associated with all aspects of their lives just because we run in the same circles and invite each other or get invited to the same events. Y’all can’t be for real with this thought process…

    • @EmpressHolyy
      @EmpressHolyy 7 дней назад +4

      Yeah but do they invite you to parties? Do they keep you hours later after the party is over because you and them are so close?

    • @Nintendosa
      @Nintendosa 7 дней назад +4

      @@EmpressHolyy your question as a whole doesn’t even make sense. I answered the first part of your question in my initial comment (read it slowly).
      Your second question is just overall confusing and lacking.

    • @JadoreDomo09
      @JadoreDomo09 4 дня назад

      Girl there are multiple interviews/videos of them both acknowledging they are close and have been friends for decades. Google and RUclips is free.

  • @Leon-talks_TV
    @Leon-talks_TV 7 дней назад +8

    Personally, I don’t think they were friends; they were more like industry associates. Plus, in the '90s and early 2000s, they weren’t really around each other like that. People started seeing them around each other more after the 2010s.

    • @openworld6337
      @openworld6337 7 дней назад

      Yes only industry's associates is allowed to call diddy by his legal name 😂😂😂😂

    • @Leon-talks_TV
      @Leon-talks_TV 7 дней назад +4

      @ I mean, it’s his legal name. What’s wrong with that, considering they both have the same first name? Just because I call you by your legal name doesn’t mean I like you like that.

    • @neishawnjohnson7602
      @neishawnjohnson7602 7 дней назад

      ​@@Leon-talks_TV because they were the only ones outside their families that could say it. Y'all are just delusional and don't wanna see it 🥴🤦

  • @IAMDARCYLOVE
    @IAMDARCYLOVE 7 дней назад +11

    This is exactly why 50 cent stay on they necks 😂

  • @Purple-qi4hj
    @Purple-qi4hj 7 дней назад +14

    They actually weren't friends in that way. The people know, their relationship was about building business. Maybe you're not old enough but they were not friends Jay-Z was friends with Big and Junior Mafia. Diddy was the pathway to get what he wanted. Industry associates over 30 years doesn't make you friends. You are business associates. Armon are you "friends" with all the RUclipsrs reporting on what you report? You may attend the same events, run in similar circles.

    • @Mzpfpretti
      @Mzpfpretti 7 дней назад +7

      It’s like the internet doesn’t know how to separate business and personal life.. Not one image of their kids together or anything else.. This was an industry relationship!! U can find more images of Jay with Jack Dorsey personally than him with Diddy

    • @TatiSaysSo
      @TatiSaysSo 7 дней назад +4

      Basically Diddy thought they were friends but Jay Z couldn’t stand him. He tolerated him.

    • @mrsx7944
      @mrsx7944 6 дней назад

      ​​@@TatiSaysSobingo. They were one sided friends

  • @Stephanie-wf6xr
    @Stephanie-wf6xr 7 дней назад +22

    Diddy said only Jay Z can call him by his name Sean, nobody else. 😂😂

    • @KamillaPeck
      @KamillaPeck 7 дней назад +3

      Correct . This makes Jay looks like a liar 😊

    • @jack30ny1
      @jack30ny1 7 дней назад +5

      To me, it looks like Diddy was a friend to Jay Z, but Jay Z and Bey weren't friends to him. 🤔

    • @ryanfgrantjr3009
      @ryanfgrantjr3009 7 дней назад +1

      That part

    • @Mzpfpretti
      @Mzpfpretti 7 дней назад +1

      And notice Jay never made a response to that statement publicly. The feelings weren’t mutual!!

    • @Imsmarterthanallyall
      @Imsmarterthanallyall 7 дней назад

      Cause they both rich and have the same name… duh! He sees him as his equal

  • @MarieReddd
    @MarieReddd 7 дней назад +5

    Jay and Diddy are friends, but since the lawyer says they are not…what kind of games is Jay playing, I wouldn’t want a friend like Jay Z , he will throw you to the wolves and never think twice about it, he’s all for himself, but the truth will come out about him also.

  • @BrookEngland-do3uh
    @BrookEngland-do3uh 7 дней назад +33

    I believe they not that close. That it’s more of an industry relationship. Jay’s close friends are Tata, Bleek, and Biggs. We all know this.

    • @Nintendosa
      @Nintendosa 7 дней назад +14

      40+ year olds who are true hip hop fans definitely know this.

    • @BrookEngland-do3uh
      @BrookEngland-do3uh 7 дней назад +14

      @@Nintendosappl want Hov to be guilty so bad they done made Diddy his best friend is nasty work 😂 all the lawyer said is they weren’t close beyond a business relationship lol

    • @Nintendosa
      @Nintendosa 7 дней назад +9

      @@BrookEngland-do3uh it’s really sad. And these are the type of people with this type of intellect who end up on jury trials. Facts over feelings for justice people. FACTS OVER FEELINGS.

    • @yennydude3768
      @yennydude3768 7 дней назад +5

      Hell, Diddy smacked him on the ass on stage hahaha. Very professional

    • @aoescool
      @aoescool 7 дней назад +1

      and Emory

  • @christinelomax3903
    @christinelomax3903 7 дней назад +14

    And the attorney Busby doesn't have to do anything because he knows that Diddy is going to take Jay-Z down

  • @MILLZ-808
    @MILLZ-808 7 дней назад +5

    No friendship 😂this is hilarious 😂
    Jay-z is showing us who he really is!😂

  • @naturallynailah6983
    @naturallynailah6983 7 дней назад +7

    I have never believed that Jay and Puff were friends just that they were INDUSTRY FRIENDS (WORK ASSOCIATES) we have never seen them outaide of industry events and parties.
    Shit the chicks at work think were are friends ... nope we are work friendly... I can't even think of any business partnerships they've had outside of rap

    • @shoonkey
      @shoonkey 7 дней назад +2

      They where intimate intimate friends

    • @naturallynailah6983
      @naturallynailah6983 7 дней назад +3

      ​@@shoonkeyBS!!! Give an example outside of industry events

  • @Neabeverly
    @Neabeverly 7 дней назад +15

    I have known, partied, worked, laughed, cried, been generous with people for years that I have hundreds of photos with but they are NOT my friends. They’re associates, coworkers and peers. If you listen to the song “Friends” on The Carter’s album, Jay Z explains this and actually list who his friends are. Y’all throw the word around to loosely. Us Sagittarius overuse discernment when using that word

    • @nicolemorlte6227
      @nicolemorlte6227 7 дней назад +1

      @@Neabeverly Saggy ♐️

    • @talkoftheTL
      @talkoftheTL 7 дней назад +4

      so you're telling me you can do everything a friendship Intel's but not be friends ???? and do these things for DECADES???? that doesn't make sense . Dont gaslight us .

    • @karilane4400
      @karilane4400 7 дней назад +1

      THIS! ♌️♐️

    • @srank421
      @srank421 7 дней назад +2

      I dont think your parties involved s3x trafficking. whether they were friends or not, they partied together ALOT and thats the most crucial piece in this case

    • @Neabeverly
      @Neabeverly 7 дней назад

      @ whoosh….
      Clearly your classroom was in the basement and reading comprehension isn’t one of your strengths. None of that has anything to do with the price of a goat’s foot. What the Diddler eats… doesn’t make Shawn Corey Carter 💩 use your noodle. Did you even watch the press conferences or are you another troll of headline culture?

  • @courtney.malone
    @courtney.malone 6 дней назад +1

    Spiro making a case for the accusers inconsistencies at the same time making a statement that they aren't friends is the epitome of INCONSISTENT.

  • @Islandspice116
    @Islandspice116 7 дней назад +6

    Actually, Jay Z is not the only celebrity distancing themselves from P. Diddy many celebrities are. Truth be told the media can dig up as many pictures on other celebrities including Caucasian celebrities as they’re doing Jay-Z you know the media can shape a narrative. Just because they hung out and did business together. There were also other celebrities that he did business with and that he was on stage with and hung out with, are they “good“ friends as well? I don’t think he’s saying he doesn’t know him because I associate with a lot of people some of the same people, but I would not classify them as my friend period!!

    • @canon60458
      @canon60458 7 дней назад +1

      They just want to make them good friends because they are both black rappers from the same place. So it’s an easier sell

  • @enjoli-xp3rh
    @enjoli-xp3rh 7 дней назад +11

    Next he’s going to say he Beyonce were never married 🙄 Come on now. Okay so you were friendly associates?

  • @Kelly.Stefani
    @Kelly.Stefani 7 дней назад +6

    Armon you just read the statement verbatim and turned it to something else. Not once did that statement say they were NEVER nor that he doesn’t know that man. Those are your words.
    They may have done business together but that doesn’t define a friendship. Like let’s be forreal.

  • @angelicapeterson2249
    @angelicapeterson2249 7 дней назад +26

    Armon your talking sense now like HELLO .. EXACTLY.. you have to know what he’s done to try to distance yourself… you likely were around it!

    • @itsasiamariee
      @itsasiamariee 7 дней назад +3

      Right sis, because he was talking that bs at first

    • @BabyGirlTiny
      @BabyGirlTiny 6 дней назад

      He’s not talking sense, he’s talking what you want to hear. And y’all don’t like Jay z so anything to slander him is sense to y’all

    • @angelicapeterson2249
      @angelicapeterson2249 6 дней назад +1

      @ I have no problem with Jay Z I listen to his blue print 3 album daily… problem is I know how to shut that off and criticize and be truthful when needed! It’s been out there about him being next to be exposed I’m 32 I’ve been hearing bad things about him… it’s clear why they aren’t that vocal on no platform.. they know what their history entails!!!!! You liking him and feeling like u can’t criticize him is what’s scary baby… stop worshipping these celebrities

  • @Milan_knowles
    @Milan_knowles 7 дней назад +18

    All them Pictures Jay-Z & Diddy got Together Says Otherwise jay tells diddy he love him Yea ok jay 😂

    • @Myhandle718
      @Myhandle718 7 дней назад +6

      It was mutual respect because of their successes. They weren’t friends

    • @baileyhemsworth7857
      @baileyhemsworth7857 7 дней назад

      Is your upstairs working

    • @BabyGirlTiny
      @BabyGirlTiny 6 дней назад +1

      Business picture. Y’all so dumb. You just be friend with anyone and everyone at your job that you’ve taken a picture with

  • @Onyxraye
    @Onyxraye 7 дней назад +4

    “They worked on albums together, they created record labels together.” Armon this is a flat out lie. Diddy was with Bad Boy and Jay Z was with Roc-A-fella. They never made music together because Jay called Diddy a bad rapper in public.

  • @trini_islandboi
    @trini_islandboi 7 дней назад +20

    I think there is a distinction between being co-workers and being friendly with someone VS being actual friends with someone! Please know the difference!

  • @lynettepatrice2600
    @lynettepatrice2600 7 дней назад +4

    Exactly, Armon. He could just say, yeah we're cool, but don't tie me with that case because it has nothing to do with me. That's better than trying to gaslight people into believing they weren't friends.

    • @opinionladyy
      @opinionladyy 7 дней назад

      But he didn’t say anything his lawyer did.

    • @BabyGirlTiny
      @BabyGirlTiny 6 дней назад

      Y’all don’t know anything about their relationship besides they have pictures at business and public events. Y’all dumb and don’t know what the word gaslight mean

    • @cheriecobb449
      @cheriecobb449 6 дней назад

      Word...💯💯💯

  • @akl000
    @akl000 7 дней назад +4

    They are playing in everyone's face. And y'all want me to think Jay Z innocent. His actions showing guilty before today.

  • @BriBri82
    @BriBri82 7 дней назад +3

    JayZ told y’all he’s not a businessman, he’s a business man. That alone should tell folks all they need to know about him.

  • @JessicaLeeAnnWrites
    @JessicaLeeAnnWrites 7 дней назад +19

    Now Sean Carter 😩

  • @Yeaster
    @Yeaster 6 дней назад +1

    People want Jay Z to be guilty of something SO bad, and they have to ask themselves why a successful Black man bothers them so much.
    Diddy and Jay Z are peers. They came up around the same time and are probably acquaintances or work friends. Jay Z acting like he never had a relationship with Diddy is dishonest, but self-preservation is human instinct.
    I don't put anything past anyone, but I'm going to wait for more facts to come back before I say one thing or the other.

  • @tyrodriguez9417
    @tyrodriguez9417 7 дней назад +18

    I think it’s very possible for them to never have been friends just business associates

    • @myacrystal6564
      @myacrystal6564 7 дней назад +5

      😂😂

    • @openworld6337
      @openworld6337 7 дней назад +3

      Yes they were never friends just guy bros... bro code... 😂😂

    • @ChocolateTah84
      @ChocolateTah84 7 дней назад +4

      You a grown man! Think like one please!!!🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @FoougieTV
      @FoougieTV 7 дней назад

      Exactly! It's just two men from NY who have a mutual respect for each other because they came from humble beginnings.

  • @duchessdame150
    @duchessdame150 7 дней назад +3

    If you believe that Jay has nothing to do with any of Diddy's shenanigans, you should also believe when they tell you that he has no friendship with Diddy

  • @amarojunk
    @amarojunk 7 дней назад +10

    😂😂 This statement is so laughable; it’s screaming desperation

  • @moniqueredman
    @moniqueredman 7 дней назад +14

    That’s just common sense. Because they worked together and partied together, doesn’t define a personal friendship. That article did not provide receipts of a personal friendship.

    • @nadiakindle4303
      @nadiakindle4303 7 дней назад +8

      Thank you!! Every picture was a public event nothing personal or with close friends or family

    • @servdv
      @servdv 7 дней назад +1

      Exacty

    • @MILLZ-808
      @MILLZ-808 7 дней назад +3

      Stop😂 Now Jay-z not friends with Diddy 😂Jay-z is lame for real!

  • @blujee1
    @blujee1 6 дней назад +2

    My antennas been up. SMH. I feel sorry for the kids.

  • @garbles1970
    @garbles1970 7 дней назад +8

    I believe jay z…..I never believed they were friends….it always seemed like business Diddy always seemed too weird for jay z

    • @deshawnbrinson2298
      @deshawnbrinson2298 7 дней назад +4

      Were you there tell us more 😂about

    • @garbles1970
      @garbles1970 7 дней назад +3

      @ no Deshawn I wasn’t there Deshawn I can’t tell anything about it Deshawn it was me stating my opinion Deshawn is that okay Deshawn 😂

    • @deshawnbrinson2298
      @deshawnbrinson2298 7 дней назад +2

      @@garbles1970 🤣🤣🤣

    • @tiffanybarefield1227
      @tiffanybarefield1227 7 дней назад

      Exactly!

    • @tiffanybarefield1227
      @tiffanybarefield1227 7 дней назад +1

      ​@deshawnbrinson2298 were you there?

  • @besslee7905
    @besslee7905 7 дней назад +3

    With friends like this who need enemies

  • @yblimited
    @yblimited 7 дней назад +5

    They both have repeatedly said publicly the only person that can call them Sean/Shawn besides their moms is each other. SLOAN did a video on it recently

    • @BabyGirlTiny
      @BabyGirlTiny 6 дней назад

      So what your sayings, is that Beyoncé can’t call him Sean, that his wife calls him Jay?? And you’re saying that Jay-z family can’t call him Sean? Or those that are actually close to him, like bleak and all them? Just diddy?
      See how stupid y’all sound

  • @sweettee8186
    @sweettee8186 7 дней назад +4

    I don't trust none of these celebrities.

  • @loveyourselflivelife2847
    @loveyourselflivelife2847 7 дней назад +3

    He hit them with The Clive Davis Dementia!

  • @CaramelCutie-l2b
    @CaramelCutie-l2b 7 дней назад +12

    I never thought Jay and Diddy were close like that . They just spoke to each other at events and that’s was it . I never heard them say they call up one another and talk about life . Plus if they were friends , that doesn’t mean Jay do what he do . Or knows what he’s doing

    • @Khaizos
      @Khaizos 7 дней назад

      He was at diddy’s party on sweats and diddy was live saying he was there since morning smoking cigars…look for the video…they were very close to a point even bey posted diddy with jay on their main page

  • @lovehopesdream
    @lovehopesdream 7 дней назад +2

    It's giving Judas, "I never knew him", it's giving Mariah Carey, "I don't know her". Its giving KeKe Palmer "Sorry to that man, i dont know who that man is" But whatever. 👀

  • @Rarepanthrr
    @Rarepanthrr 7 дней назад +23

    Y’all learn the difference between associates and friends.

    • @nadiakindle4303
      @nadiakindle4303 7 дней назад +3

      lol that’s what I’m saying not to bring him up but Trump does this all the time yes I took pics and worked with them but I don’t know them like that or friends to that nature

    • @Purple-qi4hj
      @Purple-qi4hj 7 дней назад +1

      Thank you, they are too young. They ae in a small industry, even worked together doesn't make you my friend. When they learn this lesson, they wont be in their feelings as much in these social media streets.

    • @dbtheboss85
      @dbtheboss85 7 дней назад +4

      Y’all are so delusional

    • @neishawnjohnson7602
      @neishawnjohnson7602 7 дней назад +5

      We are not about to do that. Associates don't allow each other to be the only ones outside of their family to call them by their first name. That alone already shows that their relationship is deeper than an "associates".

  • @jadechanel90210
    @jadechanel90210 7 дней назад +2

    I think they jumped the gun with trying to distance himself from Diddy that quick and direct. I definitely gave that statement the side eye!!!

  • @b.michelle2393
    @b.michelle2393 7 дней назад +3

    This is definitely on brand for Jay Z! Check his history with other so called “friends” and business associates.

  • @Pros2mycons
    @Pros2mycons 6 дней назад +2

    Them saying that goes to show you how they think the public is stupid

  • @EricaAsjaee
    @EricaAsjaee 7 дней назад +3

    He should’ve shut the hell up after the girl lies came out . He needs a new lawyer

    • @CircumstancesNeverMatter
      @CircumstancesNeverMatter День назад

      Yeah because as high profile as that lawyer is he should’ve known better than to say that because it’s likely going to cause more harm than good. Who knows maybe Alex Spiro said that on purpose for his own personal reasons you never know!

  • @just-a-jerseygirl-lori9109
    @just-a-jerseygirl-lori9109 5 дней назад +1

    You noticed he did the same thing with r. Kelly. He definitely did a lot of young girls and is trying to separate himself from all the them.Everyone has patterns

  • @nellybelly3751
    @nellybelly3751 7 дней назад +3

    There is a difference between friends and business partners I don’t think that they were friends either I also don’t think there is a bond

  • @wendyy2376
    @wendyy2376 7 дней назад +2

    People use the word “friend” too loosely and that’s why yall get your feelings hurt because you consider associates to be friends. I’ve known ppl for 15+ years, done business with them, worked with them, even went out together and I don’t consider them friends. If you’re not a person I’m going to call when I’m in need or share secrets with, we’re not friends, we’re just associates that get along well together. Let’s be real, Armon has considered a lot of his celebrity connects friends and got upset when they made it clear through words and action that they were only associates with common business interests. There’s a difference! 🤷🏽‍♀️ I would separate myself from an associate caught up in foolishness like this.

  • @hopesdaughter5947
    @hopesdaughter5947 7 дней назад +5

    At 1:32 😐 ...WTF kind of stupid legal statement was that. He's trying to gaslight the world... Lol OMG ⛽💡

    • @corneliushall-q1x
      @corneliushall-q1x 7 дней назад +1

      He won't win

    • @BabyGirlTiny
      @BabyGirlTiny 6 дней назад

      You don’t know what gaslight means. Don’t use that word

    • @hopesdaughter5947
      @hopesdaughter5947 6 дней назад

      @BabyGirlTiny My social and behavioral science higher education and my life experience tells me I do. Go police someone else's comments bully.

  • @xogemgem
    @xogemgem 7 дней назад +2

    this fr gave that they will smile for the cameras and for money but truly never friends. like fr that’s truly what it gave they was cool for business opportunities and that’s it

  • @FoougieTV
    @FoougieTV 7 дней назад +3

    We don't know these people personally. Ever seen Jay & Diddy's kids together? Ever seen them together for holidays? Birthdays? Christening? Baby showers? Funerals? I haven't. They are not real friends. Please stop it.

  • @amotherofcolour5989
    @amotherofcolour5989 7 дней назад +1

    My personal opinion is that he should have settled and never posted his message. His actions caused more harm to his personal brand than good. One thing I have to give to Beyonce is that she never responds to criticism publicly, and I think that would have been best for his situation.

  • @SchawanaJenkins
    @SchawanaJenkins 7 дней назад +3

    How they wasn't friend when Diddy said Jay-Z the only friend that can call him Sean

  • @mybookoflife748
    @mybookoflife748 7 дней назад +2

    Knowing how jay keeps the Circe small, Sean and Shawn def been besties this last two decades