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the way all pedal comparisons should be. great video.
i also have the wiretap and same ammoon looper. is there anything you like better about the 720?
Thanks! Much appreciated.
I've honestly not noticed a huge difference so far. I suspect the A to D conversion on the 720 might be higher quality, and the footswitches aren't as smooth, but that's pretty much it.
Excellent test. No messing and the looper gives a uniform sound.
Just to publicly agree with the many others who appreciate your hard work on these excellent videos: easy to follow, brilliant clear comparisons between different pedals and their settings, great observations on your part and good music too. I keep coming back to your videos for the entertainment - not just to buy another pedal (although that happens too!). Thank you for all your hard work, the internet is a better place.
This is really nice - thank you!
Hi! Just a "Thank you" for the public service that you're providing by doing this. Also: very methodical (using the looper, to maintain consistency across pedals). I've been thinking about getting a Leslie simulator (**not** a Uni-vibe or vibrato/chorus sound!) -- and your demo (and commentary) helps tremendously! :) --GG
You sold me on the Nux. Still love coming back and checking these out, you did well with the format of these
I would really like to see the Fender Pinwheel as part of this comparison on the next one. Thanks for having such a great comparison setup, and consistency
Kudos on the "production values". That video took time to produce, record and edit. Appreciated. Thank you.
love how neil gaiman's "sandman" was put beside the pedals. its like the music was the soundtrack for the book. :) great vid though..
Even though it's more Univibey, I really dig the BBE. Warm, smooth, and sweet! :)
I've had the Big Spender (as well as some of the non-footswitchable ones) for a while and liked it but it's fascinating putting it up against these others. The ramp time is SO LONG! Unexpectedly surprised by the quality of the cheap-ish Nux Roctary. The Line 6 is a beast. I like the EHX Lester a lot.
The pedals that are really Univibes just don't cut it for me unfortunately.
My main takeaway from this is that I probably don't like much drive in a rotary pedal.
Hey Mr. Bored, Great video. Did you think the TC electronic pedal lacked volume ? I bought one and it basically halved the volume when I turned it on. Great sound but totally un useable
Just one correction, the Nux Roctary have a ramp time control, you have to press the fast button for a little time and at the same time adjust the ramp time with the slow knob. You can also set the amount od dry signal along the octaves (by default set to 0) using the same trick with the +1 octave knob.
My compliments on your format and presentation. I've dug some of your other vids too. Of course you can't do them all. But for people who are interested, my choice after going thru several over the years, going back to my H&K Rotosphere (and btw, the 75 pound Tonecore is the only one of your bunch that I've got), my choice is the Tech21 RotoChoir. The only thing it lacks is adjustable ramp speed. A great feature is mic position that can take you from smooth & fluid to deep throbbing close mic'ing. It's a keeper and it's on my board.
jolt1 The RotoChoir is the only one I'm irritated I left off! Have been looking at it for ages and totally forgot about when I got round to this
I've got the RotoChoir too. The Stereo output is something important to me. I play near the bridge for the best sound.
jolt1 ..Try the Roctary , you'll be pleasantly surprised. I have one.
My main choice would be the Full Neo Vent ll if I could spend all that i wanted to.
I used to play Hammond organ in bands, so I used to live with a Leslie 145 in my ear. The most convincing of these are the Leslie (it should be, at that steep price), and the Nux. I was surprised that the neo mini was not as good as its big brother Vent. Even more surprised by the inexpensive Nux...really good, especially on the fast mode, where most of the emulators fall apart.
Including the Strymon Lex would have been a good contestant.
Yeah, couldn’t get my hands on a Strymon at the time sadly.
To me, the Leslie is the only one that come close to capturing the “chewiness” of the real thing. I only had the choice to record with a real one once, and have never been able to replicate it. That said, they all sound pretty cool in their own way.
@@mrmoa "Chewiness", exactly the right word.
Love the Sandman cameos!
Aamazing content and video quality. (Y)
And if I could I would give a second thumbs up on the vid for the Sandman cameo! As someone else commented, Gaiman's Sandman and the univibes go perfectly together.
I also LOVE how you presented the Sandman stories/issues in order of publications as you progressed with the pedals. This touch of detail would deserve a third thumbs up!!! ^^
The Nux one actually does have a ramp speed control, it's just a "shift" function of one of the knobs.
Indeed. And it has gotten cheaper, about 90€ now
Great demo! I have an 80s Arion Chorus that does a nice rotary sound - no ramp up, but still sounds great.
Plus 1. Arion SCH-Z (reissue) is great too.
@@realcoyotekings and Dod fx65 (early models)
The nux roctary does have ramp control, in fact it's one the best you can buy,
andrew strong Well that's subjective of course - I guess the point of these videos is to help everyone make up their own minds. But I do rate it quite highly compared to some of the others.
And examining the manual I see there is indeed a way to change the acceleration - hold down a footswitch and turn a control knob - but there isn't the dedicated primary control for it which some other pedals have.
But this will certainly remind me to read the manuals more carefully next time!
I have the neo ventilator 2 for my keyboards, in the past i had a leslie 122 a real one sounds ferry good, bud the problem was the wight en how big that beast whas, i tread to self made a electric one whit new ic's, it was working bud whit a problem it has a rumble when it rotate and the speakers kome out the seatings ha ha, now 35 jears later there it is the neo ventilator 2 is a digital copie from the leslie 122 u cant hear a divrent i realy think there is no better than these.
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I agree. The Vent has a very rich tone, and a beautiful emulation. I just could drop the coin for it. Maybe Christmas. The Strymon LEX is a close second, IMHO. I got a used one for way less than the near-Vent retail price. They both have a good fast speed (which is where most emulators do not sound "real"), adjustable ramp times, good tone and very realistic emulations. The Vent does have the fattest tone of all of 'em, tho.
EXCELLENT PRESENTATION. Using exact program for all pedals....the way it should be!!
Great comparison. I really think the EH Lester K is the best of all.
Fantastic format and very helpful. Thanks for creating this!
I have the Ventura Vibe and I am very happy with it
my favourites were the EHX Lester and the Hermida Audio Rotary Reverb
Excellent comparison! The Dyno My Roto is the most natural sounding (minus the low and high speed control). It would sound even better with the TEXTURE knob at 10 o'clock it adds more proximity effect.
Thank you!
Keeley Electronics is releasing a new rotary simulator in less than 2 hours! You may really enjoy the sound and added features. We've been working on Rotary sounds for a while ;-)
Firstly, thank you for this perfect comparison vid! I personally dig the Electro-Harmonix version.
Well done, the only way to fairly compare pedals. Thanks for posting.
tommc49 Thanks!
Good stuff. I use a Dual Analog Ibanez Flanger FL99 to emulate a high speed rotary kind of effect. Obviously it fails at that but it sounds superb [followed by a chorus to add shimer and a bit of reverb to taste for extra dimension].
Ooh. Nice idea. Like it.
I listened to most of these in other videos and I like the Line 6 but bought the Tech 21 Roto Choir ; to my ears it seemed the most like a Leslie.
The nux it's my fav sounding one on this video
It's pretty good value for money too
This is soothing. helps me relax.
Subscribed because I like your format. It is so difficult to compare pedals when watching demos done by different people because there are so many variables in the equipment used. Well done. Nux was surprisingly good. Like the Soul Vibe but it's not a rotary.
The Vent 2 or Strymon Lex would be my preference.
The sandman and Univibes? Perfect
They all pretty good, but the venti is amazing
love this firmat.. prob the one vid that could do with stereo though.
Bought a vent II. Love it! Now thinking about adding a Leslie G. It’s a favorite effect for me.
Dr/\gonfly ...I've had them all, except the Neo Vent ll. I've used the Neo Vent ll and its hands down the best
. The next which I own is the NUX Roctary . , if I were Frampton and didn't want to carry around 2 Leslie cabs.
I'd choose the Neo Vent, But I don't use the Leslie sound all of the time. In the mix , you can't tell the difference
between the Neo Vent ll and the NUX Roctary ... If I had tons of $ I'd buy the No Vent, but the NUX excellent.
Great video. Filled with some of my favorite gear. Honorable mention.... The JHS Unicorn.
I bought three of the Danelectro Big Spenders. My music partner sometimes uses one on her electro-harp. I use one on the 12-string guitar board & one for the 6-string, slow, at 7 o'clock (slowest) or 8 o'clock. Beats chorus every time.
Holy cow… I just noticed you have all the prices listed… Nice touch!
I'm late to this, but the NUX Roctary does have a ramp speed function. You hold the speed switch and adjust the slow knob to change the ramp. There's a few hidden functions to the pedal in the manual. My only complaint is that it's a little loud and lacks a volume knob unattached to the drive function, so you need to adjust your guitar volume when you engage it. But, otherwise, it's a damn solid pedal for the price.
I just bought a Behringer RM600 Rotary Machine and I like it a lot. It's a clone of the Line 6( I've had two of them) but it sounds better to me. Some of you might think I'm full of it or crazy but it sounds really good !!
kevin malone ..Why did you need to buy 2 ? Did one break.
@@jamiemorgan4146 I've had two of the Line 6. Bought one, sold it. Bought another and traded it for an OCD
Great vid, loved the Sandman comics up top
I have the Roctary and the Vibraclone and the eno-octave mini. they all are different and are useful. Eno is a niche pedal.
Neo mini Vent sounds so great, but is quite expensive. I find the that the Nux roctary sounds good, but it is quite difficult to appreciate the real quality on RUclips. Could you tell us if you've got the same feeling under live conditions?
Danke für den Test. Das erste war gleich das Beste!
The Mooer mini sounds good. At slow speed, it's got that phasey Univibe sound and at high speed, it gets a little of that Leslie high freq buzzimg without the intense thud & warble of a Univibe. I personally prefer the slow vibe sound to the slow Leslie 16/ Vibratone but I prefer the fast Leslie to the fast vibe.
The Ventura Vibe would be a homerun for me but for some reason they made the ramp a momentary function... WHY?! To play on fast speed, you have to keep your foot on it or set it to fast and lose your slow speed. That's silly!
It seems like every rotary pedal designer drops the ball in at least one area(Like the endless ramp time on the Big Spender or the Vibroclone's loss of highs and volume). They should let a few players try out the prototype before they put them into production?
I believe Leslie simulators are tough to crack in a pedal format, that’s why they may come with some “problems”. But yeah it’s good enough I’d say. I have a Hardwire TR-7 and it’s pretty sick, I can have that warbling sound in a small package, it’s great for studio or live situations. Try this one if you’re looking for something that doesn’t reck out your highs and drops your volume (: I recommend it
Im looking for an afforfdable leslie type pedal.this video helps a lot.
The Danelectro Big Spender is very affordable! I know your comment is a year old but did you end up getting one?
@@Thurston86 yep, got the t.c vibraclone.
@@marcalving1753 Noice! 🤘👽
I like the Digitech Ventura and the Rotary sound on my Keeley Darkside.
If I wanted one dedicated Rotary pedal, for the $ I think the Tech21 Roto Choir is the one FTW
As mentioned above, you can adjust the ramp speed on the Nux with a secondary control set.
a shame that the digitech one cant be found anywhere.. really does everything and more than i want, all in Boss format!
Like that Big Spender! There are also the DLS Rotosim/Rotospin which are worth a look (I have the Spin). I also have the BBE and VL Microvibe which are both Univibes, definitely a different animal than the Rotary effects.
I did a blind listen (looking in to see what they were of course) And the big hitters sounded best to me, some others are just tweaked flangers to my ear. And I forgot how much I loved the tonecore series, even though it does transform your sound a bit too much.
Tonecore=Jorge Tripps. One of the best pedal designers ever IMO
I really should buy the Echo Park. It's so fkin good.
Very good presentation, thanks! I like the dirty sound of the Nux best. Would love to try with an organ.
Nekonome2011 ... I've asked NUX to do one, they said great idea , but never did one.
I need to hear them all played through a B3 to really decide.
In my opinion, The undisputed Lester G or K is better but, don't leave out the Nux Roctray Pedal as well for the money and a little tweaking of the two pedals, close to the real leslie speaker, you've got something.😊😊😊
Love your demos! Always makes me relax listening to your playing! So for me the mini Vent and the NUX were the best ones but honestly liked the NUX better! I have the Tech 21 Roto Choir and it's not nearly as good as the NUX.
I bought the NUX a few days ago, so far I'm really pleased with it. As well as the rotary speaker effect it also allows me to simulate an organ well enough to avoid purchasing the EHX B9 or C9 pedals,
Am I the only one who liked the Hermida (lovepedal)?
The others seemed to add too much dirt to the sound and/or a harsh high frequency.
Still have it, so I must like it! (Mainly for its chorus/vibrato sounds though...)
No, I liked it too. Also the Hammond.
I finally got one at a great price. The rotary mode is probably its weakest mode and yet it's still great. The vibrato and chorus modes are outstanding. Thought I'd be turning the reverb all the way down because I play a 70's Deluxe Reverb and the reverb is always on, and I like my reverb post dirt, yet adding a touch from the pedal helps it sound even better (while also having the amp reverb). Freaking great pedal. I thought the Keeley sounded really good too and gotta check it out now, also the Mooer or whatever sounded really good, can't lie! Anyway, the Rotary Reverb is awesome for any kind of quiver sound you're after and it kills a few birds with one stone.
what a brilliant way to compare pedals! instant subscribe from me haha
Im digging the Ammoon looper! I might have to try one!
What's with the book? Weird shoe...
The digitech sounds frighteningly close to the Lester and Neo Vent, at least on fast speed. The Mooer surprised me as well. It's good that you included used/out of production units.
I got the Nux when it came out. Best Rotary I've ever heard (and I've owned quite a few since the 80's).
IT DOES HAVE ramp speed (Attack and Decay as seconday functions, OR plug in an expression ped).
The High and Low are NOT Tone controls, they control the level of the Hi and Low horns.
The Poly Octave is also insanely good, literally sounds like a real bass.
The Drive is a bit too much though, need to keep that dialed down low.
Stereo outs. Definately the best of this bunch :)
Just a word of caution. I also bought the Nux when it came out. After a few months it started making odd noises then stopped working altogether. Maybe I was unlucky but I see it is now discontinued. Mmmm...
@@kingstumble I think it was discontinued over copyright of the digital code of the polyphonic octaver and it's similarity to one of EHX's pitch devices. Mine still works, but I always use PSU's with 'true ground' (where the DC outputs ground has continuity with the earth pin of the mains plug), otherwise, with all those cheap pedal PSU's with no ground pin, they have a vitual ground, which has a 'potential difference' with true ground.
(I've blown a digital pedal this way before)
This video saved me at least $100. I love you.
Ha! You’re welcome 😉
The Quest - I've had them all, except the Neo Vent ll. I've used the Neo Vent ll and its hands down the best
. The next which I own is the NUX Roctary . , if I were Frampton and didn't want to carry around 2 Leslie cabs.
I'd choose the Neo Vent, But I don't use the Leslie sound all of the time. In the mix , you can't tell the difference
between the Neo Vent ll and the NUX Roctary ... If I had tons of $ I'd buy the Neo Vent, but the NUX i.
The next is the Leslie G37.
Problem is some leslie sims, like the Vent, work/sound better for guitar in an fx loop...It's recommended in the Vent Manual
George Bertok Well I - and a lot of people, I think - don't have an amp with an effects loop so I can't use effects that way.
But if I did it would certainly be interesting to see the difference. Perhaps there are some other demos out there that do that?
The Pedal Show's demo (for example) uses the Vent out front so I presume that's how most people are going to use it.
I use my LEX rotary pedal at the very end of my pedal chain. Being a former Hammond player, I want the Leslie to be out front when I hit it. Both the Vent and the LEX have the option of Stereo output, which can really increase the effect in a room. How many of the other pedals have that?
Superb demo. Thank you..! 👍
I have an ehx Lester g, it's pretty good. I also have a gt10, it has a rotary but it's kinda naff. Thanks for the video.
The Line 6 is the real deal if you can find one,just grab it..
And keep the Drive under 10 o'clock and the Blend to 2 the most,to have the best sound..
Another good video. Well done the Ammoon cheap looper.
Thanks! I have my EHX 320 back on form now, but the Ammoon will always be ready.
Stereo would be nice! Remember that a real Leslie trows the sound back and forth in the room...
Quite.
Thanks for this! I've been looking at getting a rotary pedal, now I know which ones to avoid, as well as a few I'd like to take a closer look at.
Muggsy Lauer Check out the TR-7, by Hardwire. It has some nice features to offer
Some of the pedals clip a bit, like the Mooer for exemple. Is that coming from the pedal or from further down the line?
i will stick with my boss rt 20 stereo rotary effect thanx.......works great with both my guitars and keyboards.....
electro harmonix K - is for keyboards
they have EH G which is for guitar
just a remark
That's mentioned in the onscreen text in the video, it even says what the differences are, non-of which matter for the standard rotary sound in particular.
They're all cool in their own way but the NU-X had the nastiest, most grindin', rippin' rock organ swirl! Why did he cut the overdrive right when it was taking off? The Ventura had the best Univibe sound and can be ramped up, but it's rotary sound is just meh. You can add some cool tone prints.
Yeah i was trying to hear the overdrive. Haha
@@randylahey9953 I bought the NUX and it's killer! It's complicated but you can adjust the ramp time, switch on a cab simulator instead of full-range, it cuts through at slow speeds and can functions just as an overdrive. Plus the octave effects track perfectly... Jeez Louize!
Great demo... thx 👏👍
Great comparison my dude!
Great video! Is it just me, or did anybody else skip to the next one as soon as I saw having to turn a knob to change speed? Seems kinda silly, especially for keyboard where you want that acceleration and deceleration, that's the whole point! Gimme a switch, dang it!
Clearly NUX for the 'bux' but it also nails the "grind" of the Leslie tubes better than any of the other pedals. But then, I just scored the BEST for just $37 - the real licensed Leslie/Suzuki plug in from IK is just killer - all 5 Leslie amps and 6 cabs - tubes glow when you turn it on all knobs work virtually- variable mic placement, several rooms blah blah. Simply the best - albeit for recording or on stage via Mainstage 3 or the like. 🎶🎵
I own the IK Leslie. I've never heard anything better. It really is something special.
Very good video, but couldn't you find time for the Boss RT-20 Rotary ensemble ?
Thanks for doing this. Would have been great if you also used a Hammond / ep / sound as well.
You didn't play a Strymon LEX! It is up there with the Vent and Leslie pedals in quality of sound and build, tho it does have an 18v proprietary adapter.
The most "authentic" sound (I toured with those hippos, the Hammond + Leslie, so I have a lot of familiarity with the effect) from your selections comes from the Leslie and the Neo Vent II. The Nux, after you turned off its drive function was a suprpize, not bad at all for the $ ...The Billionaire (must have been low on funds) has the ramp-up time of a Leslie's lower drum rotor, and only has that one spinning speaker in its emulation. The real Leslies had 2 rotors, one woofer drum in the lower part of the cabinet, and the high-mid and treble horn in the upper half. You can hear the 2 rotors ramping up at different speeds in the Vent and the Leslie very clearly.
I had the strymon Lex, it sucked
This is a GREAT video. No BS, prices, opinion, and a standin looper! Seriously though, tsup with those hands lol
Hammond and Nux for me
Thanks for doing this
Rotovibe by Dulop...?
I bought the Nux rotary...Im not dissapointed.
How do I play the riff you used its amazing?
Pick it out best you can with your ears..you'll learn stuff along the way. It is amazing.. I love all the different riffs he uses for these videos!
It reminds me of the incidental music in the game "Diablo".
I am not sure why you do not have the best Univibe out there today...Made by Bob Sweet The Mojo Vibe that uses REAL Photocells by Sweet Sound totally blows away any other Vibe in its class. I get that classic Leslie tone easily with mine. I have heard the others Deja-Vibe, and all the rest they don't come close to the Mojo Vibe.
Darth Slater ‘Cos this is a Rotary pedal comparison - not a UniVibe one. When I do Uni Vibes I’ll definitely try and include it!
Thanks for your post. I’m subscribing, I like the shoot out format. I’ve seen a few of your demos. Honestly don’t know why more people don’t use a looper? It is a great control. It is also great to get a general over view of a bunch of different pedals, fast. I also like how your videos look. However, it would have been great to have a loop where you bring the effect in. I really need to know what happens when bring the effect in vs. the dry sound? How dramatic is the volume and/or tone drop? I know there is a perceived volume drop with vibrato, rotary, tremolo effects in general. Some pedals can compensate, some can’t.
I have a TC Vibraclone, which actually sounds ok as a stand alone kind of effect (when you can compensate for the volume and tone drop off). I can’t use it on my board. Plus you have to manually switch between speeds. I really want a good rotary effect, that I can switch speeds on on the fly, can stand up in the mix of pedals (doesn’t drop the volume or tone too much), and isn’t too complicated to use...oh, right and doesn’t cost more than $200! ;)
I have the Big Spender pedal and it’s a real disappointment!
I guess you really have to spend some money to get great rotary speaker sounds...
Can the balance control on the Nux be used to blend the dry signal with the rotary or is it something else?
Yes
i like strymon mobius it has good rotary
I was more focused on that sandman collection. You shlouh make a shoutout video of them
They all sound like albums by The Mission and Sisters of Mercy.
Rotary Reverb wins for me.
Your demos are great! Would you mind telling us about your tone setting on your Katana?
Keith Shelley Sure! I have it on the Clean setting / channel (whatever you prefer to call it) with flat EQ - Treble, Bass and Mids at 12 o'clock.
Strymon lex is the best, try it
Ah Strymons. If only I could afford them!
Had the Lex, close, but the NUX wins.. Remember ,Strymon guys designed the NUX
Jamie Morgan Wow. Where did you hear this?
Did you leave out the Lester G you should’ve put that in
There are a ton of rotary speaker pedals out there so I left out more pedals than I put in.
It would have been nice if they were in stereo if the pedal allows it.
Only got one amp, sadly.
How's that Ammoon compared to the 720? any issues or lacking in sound quality?
The build quality's not as good, but otherwise I can't see much difference. It also has a fun additional feature where if you change the loop number during playback, it starts playing the new loop automatically, which is fun.
The Pedal Bored I see. I heard ppl complained about the non instantaneous footswitches of 720’s, is that true?
hey, do you guys reccomend the ammon looper???]
The First one !
Where was the Legendary Tech 21 Roto Choir?