Bought one based on your review among a few others. Thanks for doing such a thorough job on this one, as it’s slim pickings otherwise in terms of reviews out there! And you certainly weren’t lying. I’ve been running it in for some six hours now and got hints of where this was going from the first second. Beautiful amp and digging deep enough that I won’t be needing a subwoofer in my space. Hartelijk dank!
Wow! What a positive review of this amplifier. Surprising and delightful. This and the 50n (pending your review) may make a marvelous upgrade to my current system. A little over my allotted budget but the significant improvements may be worth the hit to my bank account.
Hans, this is a great review! Thank you. We have entered a new generation of amplifiers in the middle price range, and they are truly rivaling the hi end. Maybe a new frontier of hi end will arrive too.
Bought one! It looks, feels and sounds very nice! I really appreciated you showing the interior, especially the effort on the phono stage. I didn't want the 40n or 30n because streaming apps will become obsolete. It would be nice to own this beast of an amplifier for 15 or 20 years or longer, and it would have been perfectly relevant 50 years ago. But in 10 years would HEOS still work, and could you get a compatible phone to control it?
Based on Marantz (Canada), viewer's might want to know this detail. Q: How does the sound of the MODEL 50 compares to the sound of the MODEL 40n given the same source? A: (Marantz Response) We haven't designed the two integrated amplifiers to have different sonic characteristics from each other necessarily. The only difference you might hear between the two (depending on the speakers being used) is the Model 40n's ability to drive a wider range of speaker load, as it has a more advanced power amplifier stage. What this means is, if your speakers have an easy load, you are unlikely to hear a difference between the Model 40n and the Model 50. If you have speakers with a more challenging load, the Model 40n is better equipped to handle such speaker demands, providing a fuller, more open sonic delivery - especially with livelier source content. So for those who don't need a CD player and consider saving a considerable amount of money.
I seriously doubt this. If you compare the inside of both amps, you will see they are -- especially where the power supply is concerned - about identical. It also differs from what the European technical people have told me and what I have heard. For me the amps are equal while the streaming function of the CD50n is clearly better than that of the Model 40n.
The 50 & 50n is weirdly placed in terms of naming and performance. Going by the name (lower = Better) the combination of the Model 40n + CD60 (combined MSRP of €3500) should perform better than the Model 50 + CD50n (MSRP €3600). But going by sound quality, I prefer the Model 50 set. Without a need for a CD player and going by ease of use; the Model 40n is a better buy.
Dear Hans, I leave this comment knowing that I'm writing off the topic of this video, but as it's the latest video uploaded, I thought the chances were higher for your reply. I'm an audio engineer and a studio guy, I use a pci audio interface and a pc for daily music production. I'm aware of how clean power supplies can be beneficial in audio quality, There are some solutions for usb interfaces as you have been mentioning in your previous videos, I wonder if there are practical solutions to improve a studio setup which is usually more complicated than a listening setup. Thank you for your wonderful channel, and thanks for sharing your priceless experience and knowledge.
@@yekker2245 yeah and great for home theater is what I’m thinking as well, they say in “pure direct” mode it plays a little more treble and that’s exactly what my speakers need, looks like they are still available on Amazon 👍
I have the Marantz PM8006 and the internals seem kind of similar, I wonder how much of a difference in sound quality between them? Thanks for sharing your opinion and years of expertise with us Sir.
I upgraded from 8006 to the Model 40n (same amp section as Model 50 I believe). Model 40n seems to have about 30% more (45amp vs 65 amps with larger transformer ) power, a bit more neutral and natural, and bigger soundstage. 8006 had a bit of hard time with Buchardt s400ii and KEFs at high volumes, not so with Model 40n. This is a great amp.
My music listening is an Eversolo DMP-A6 into a Denafrips Aeres II into a Yamaha RX-750 AVR in Pure Direct mode for stereo listening with Q Acoustics Concept 50 speakers. What would be your recommendation for the next upgrade on this system? Thanks for any help.
Just my opinion and experience. Changing from a AV amp to a dedicated stereo amp was a huge leap forward in performance. Dynamics, engaging sound with a believable sound stage, low noise floor too! which improved transparency. Try a home loan from a good Dealer ship. Perhaps your av amp is very good, I've not heard any of the new breed.
@@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel I guess I should’ve stated this is a home theater 5.1 / music system. Music 65% of the day and the balance of evening tv. I was thinking of a stereo into the avr but unsure of the results.
...the Model 50 is a slight update (but upgrade?) of the truly fantastic PM8006, which was available for a bit less. If you can get it still, why not? Both are pure analog units And have excellent phono stages.
@@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel This is the first time i have bought hi fi without even listening to it first. Coming from a 26 year old Linn setup, i am not dissapointed with the model 50 and cd50n powering my Linn AV5140s. I paid £1800 in total for the two. This review helped so thankyou for that. i just didnt want to do the hi fi shop auditioning thing. Been there, done that.
'High power' is a nondescript term. Yes, it is an amp that can deliver more current than others in its class. If that is enough for your loudspeakers, I can't say. I have no hands on experience with them.
Considering this amp as a pair for Dali Rubicon 6. Is it enough for these speakers? I like Marantz sound signature (I own pm6006 with Oberon 5), so Marantz should be a prior option i think
Fantastic, but to pair with an Eversolo DMP-A6 ME, I believe a power amp is a wiser choice since I don’t pay for a preamp twice. Maybe the preamp section in this is superior to that in DMP-A6 ME at least?
Hello Hans, great video as usual...!!! There's one thing to add to your final comments, that is that the ARCAM SA30 is now heavily discounted in price ($1,980 USD). Which makes it very attractive. Any thoughts on that matter?
Great review, as usual. Now I am connecting my Eversolo DMP-A6 directly to my power amp (NAD C275bee). Do you think it would be an improvement to connect the DMP A6 to a Marantz Model 50 (which I do not own)? Thanks
I have not reviewed the AS-1200. You find my reviews of amplifiers between € 1000 and € 2000 here: ruclips.net/video/NubDSsR6fP0/видео.html&pp=gAQBiAQB
If I use model 40n only as power amp and combine it with CD 50n will I get in sound quality over streaming only with 40n? I need CD player anyway and think it would be upgrade for 40n? Or Im wrong? If its not upgrade than I'm wasting money on double network options in both. Any suggestions about that... Nice review as always.
@@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel Thx for replay. They looks the same but someone write in comment that Marantz answer that 40n have better power amplifier stage. They look the same but maybe have something different that we dont see. They all are 70W for 8 ohm but they said 40n can drive more demanding speaker. If the statement in comment under is true. If 40n and model 50 have same amp spec. why they didnt name it 50n instead 40n? It seams something is different even we dont see it. Or its just commercial trick :)
That's a prejudice. Actually, streamers have an easier job getting the bits unharmed and on time to the DAC. So I fully disagree with you. I haven't used a CD-player for years now.
Hi Hans thank you again for another great review. When you mention that the speaker pairing should be more budget conscious, than the ones on your setup 2, what are your top 3 suggestions regarding pairing with this amp?
Hi Hans great review. I've just returned the PM12SE due to it not sounding as good as my PM50 from 1991! Is this one likely to be better than my PM50? I believe it may have been due to the PM12SE being a D Class.....also will this Model 50 run my Monitor Audio Silver 500's 7th Gen?
Bought one based on your review among a few others. Thanks for doing such a thorough job on this one, as it’s slim pickings otherwise in terms of reviews out there! And you certainly weren’t lying. I’ve been running it in for some six hours now and got hints of where this was going from the first second. Beautiful amp and digging deep enough that I won’t be needing a subwoofer in my space. Hartelijk dank!
Thanks!
Wow! What a positive review of this amplifier. Surprising and delightful. This and the 50n (pending your review) may make a marvelous upgrade to my current system. A little over my allotted budget but the significant improvements may be worth the hit to my bank account.
Glad you liked it!
A very favourable review of this modest amp. Thanks Hans.
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I bought the Model 50 five days ago after reading your review and you were spot on. Great amp. Thanks!
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Bob's your uncle, nice. Great review. Always been a fan of Marantz
Cool, thanks!
Thanks!
Thank you
Great review of a beautiful amp
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Very good review - thanks for the insights!
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Thanks Hans another great report, John from NY
Thanks
Hans, this is a great review! Thank you. We have entered a new generation of amplifiers in the middle price range, and they are truly rivaling the hi end. Maybe a new frontier of hi end will arrive too.
Sounds great!
Thanks
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Nice explanation of the internals!
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What a fantastic review and great format. Thank you!
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great review, thank you
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Bought one! It looks, feels and sounds very nice! I really appreciated you showing the interior, especially the effort on the phono stage. I didn't want the 40n or 30n because streaming apps will become obsolete. It would be nice to own this beast of an amplifier for 15 or 20 years or longer, and it would have been perfectly relevant 50 years ago. But in 10 years would HEOS still work, and could you get a compatible phone to control it?
👍🏼
Thank you for the video.
Thanks for watching!
Based on Marantz (Canada), viewer's might want to know this detail.
Q: How does the sound of the MODEL 50 compares to the sound of the MODEL 40n given the same source?
A: (Marantz Response) We haven't designed the two integrated amplifiers to have different sonic characteristics from each other necessarily. The only difference you might hear between the two (depending on the speakers being used) is the Model 40n's ability to drive a wider range of speaker load, as it has a more advanced power amplifier stage. What this means is, if your speakers have an easy load, you are unlikely to hear a difference between the Model 40n and the Model 50.
If you have speakers with a more challenging load, the Model 40n is better equipped to handle such speaker demands, providing a fuller, more open sonic delivery - especially with livelier source content.
So for those who don't need a CD player and consider saving a considerable amount of money.
I seriously doubt this. If you compare the inside of both amps, you will see they are -- especially where the power supply is concerned - about identical. It also differs from what the European technical people have told me and what I have heard. For me the amps are equal while the streaming function of the CD50n is clearly better than that of the Model 40n.
Maybe it’s the Made in Japan factor vs. Made in Vietnam lol (but for me I feel prouder w/ the Japan stock, like my father’s old gear) :)
The 50 & 50n is weirdly placed in terms of naming and performance. Going by the name (lower = Better) the combination of the Model 40n + CD60 (combined MSRP of €3500) should perform better than the Model 50 + CD50n (MSRP €3600). But going by sound quality, I prefer the Model 50 set. Without a need for a CD player and going by ease of use; the Model 40n is a better buy.
In term of speaker load, easy load would refer to the impedance? 4 ohm is easy vs 8 ohm is heavy? what about sensitivity?
Another excellent review by Hans. Would be interested to know what the knob feel is like.
I really don’t remember. Sorry.
Nice as usual! If not the depth dimension I would consider this apparatus, but I’m limited by 32 cm.
Fair enough!
Dear Hans, I leave this comment knowing that I'm writing off the topic of this video, but as it's the latest video uploaded, I thought the chances were higher for your reply.
I'm an audio engineer and a studio guy, I use a pci audio interface and a pc for daily music production.
I'm aware of how clean power supplies can be beneficial in audio quality, There are some solutions for usb interfaces as you have been mentioning in your previous videos, I wonder if there are practical solutions to improve a studio setup which is usually more complicated than a listening setup.
Thank you for your wonderful channel, and thanks for sharing your priceless experience and knowledge.
Sorry but I lack the time to do personal advice.
I was looking at the PM8006, and it sounds like I should be looking at this unit according to your review🤔🤔
Agreed
Me too. Looks like the 8006 isn’t being made anymore. This amp looks like what I’m after.
@@yekker2245 yeah and great for home theater is what I’m thinking as well, they say in “pure direct” mode it plays a little more treble and that’s exactly what my speakers need, looks like they are still available on Amazon 👍
I have the Marantz PM8006 and the internals seem kind of similar, I wonder how much of a difference in sound quality between them? Thanks for sharing your opinion and years of expertise with us Sir.
A I told in the video I own the PM KI Pearl Lite which I think is the 8006 upgraded by Ken Ishiwata. I like the Model 50 better.
I upgraded from 8006 to the Model 40n (same amp section as Model 50 I believe). Model 40n seems to have about 30% more (45amp vs 65 amps with larger transformer ) power, a bit more neutral and natural, and bigger soundstage. 8006 had a bit of hard time with Buchardt s400ii and KEFs at high volumes, not so with Model 40n. This is a great amp.
My music listening is an Eversolo DMP-A6 into a Denafrips Aeres II into a Yamaha RX-750 AVR in Pure Direct mode for stereo listening with Q Acoustics Concept 50 speakers. What would be your recommendation for the next upgrade on this system? Thanks for any help.
Just my opinion and experience.
Changing from a AV amp to a dedicated stereo amp was a huge leap forward in performance.
Dynamics, engaging sound with a believable sound stage, low noise floor too! which improved transparency.
Try a home loan from a good Dealer ship.
Perhaps your av amp is very good, I've not heard any of the new breed.
What do you think?
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I guess I should’ve stated this is a home theater 5.1 / music system. Music 65% of the day and the balance of evening tv. I was thinking of a stereo into the avr but unsure of the results.
...the Model 50 is a slight update (but upgrade?) of the truly fantastic PM8006, which was available for a bit less. If you can get it still, why not? Both are pure analog units And have excellent phono stages.
I have the Ken Ishiwata upgraded KI Pearl Lite version of the PM8006 and model 50 was clearly better sounding. So I disagree with you.
perhaps Marantz has got its magic back after 50 years tough competition at that price point
I don’t know if they were away. But if, they’re surely back.
the Marantz amplifiers like the 8B in the early 60's are well regarded and are now legendary. sell for many thousands used.@@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
Love this review!!! If I have a nice chord dac am I better at going with the 50 rather than the 40n? heard the 40n dac is just okay
That depends on what Chord DAC and what streamer.
@@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel chord 2Qute and a Cambridge mxn10 streamer. Still not sure ? Thank you for the help
Also just wondering given you have reviewed both the 40n and the 50. How is the build quality between the two? Thank you 🙏 love the reviews you make
it's equal
Nice review! May I ask you, would you consider the model 50 as a significant improvement in sound quality over Marantz PM6007?
I have not reviewed the PM6007 so I can't say.
This amp is on sale in the UK at the moment for less than £1000. That seems very good value. Is there a catch?
No
@@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel This is the first time i have bought hi fi without even listening to it first. Coming from a 26 year old Linn setup, i am not dissapointed with the model 50 and cd50n powering my Linn AV5140s. I paid £1800 in total for the two. This review helped so thankyou for that. i just didnt want to do the hi fi shop auditioning thing. Been there, done that.
Thanks for the great review Hans. Curious, do you know if the Marantz Model 50 uses standard junction transistors or MOSFET type for output stage?
I don't know by head and the review sample is already returned to the manufacturer. Sorry.
hi Hans , can these have enough power my Focal Aria 926 ? my music is jazz and edm . also are these HI-CURRENT amplifier? thanks and more power
'High power' is a nondescript term. Yes, it is an amp that can deliver more current than others in its class. If that is enough for your loudspeakers, I can't say. I have no hands on experience with them.
thanks so much for the reply and more power to your channel , greetings from the Philippines :) Maraming Salamat Po@@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel
Considering this amp as a pair for Dali Rubicon 6. Is it enough for these speakers? I like Marantz sound signature (I own pm6006 with Oberon 5), so Marantz should be a prior option i think
I have no hands on experience with the Rubicon 5s but I would be surprised if the Model 50 would not sound great with them.
I use PM8006 with Rubicon 6 and it works fine. So I assume this new model 50 will be fine too.
Fantastic, but to pair with an Eversolo DMP-A6 ME, I believe a power amp is a wiser choice since I don’t pay for a preamp twice. Maybe the preamp section in this is superior to that in DMP-A6 ME at least?
Well if you don't need an analog pre-amp, you are right. But if you still use a turntable, that needs an analog pre-amp.
Hello Hans, great video as usual...!!! There's one thing to add to your final comments, that is that the ARCAM SA30 is now heavily discounted in price ($1,980 USD). Which makes it very attractive. Any thoughts on that matter?
Thanks for the info!
@@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel do hans, which one has superior sound/musicality?
Great review, as usual. Now I am connecting my Eversolo DMP-A6 directly to my power amp (NAD C275bee). Do you think it would be an improvement to connect the DMP A6 to a Marantz Model 50 (which I do not own)? Thanks
It should
Will the ARIA 936 loudspeakers be too large for this amplifier?
I have no experience with this loudspeaker so I can't say.
Would the B&W 606s2 speakers play well with this amp?
I haven’t tried the B&W so I can’t say. Sorry
How would this compare to yamaha as-1200? I am currently shopping for integrated amp.
I have not reviewed the AS-1200. You find my reviews of amplifiers between € 1000 and € 2000 here: ruclips.net/video/NubDSsR6fP0/видео.html&pp=gAQBiAQB
If I use model 40n only as power amp and combine it with CD 50n will I get in sound quality over streaming only with 40n? I need CD player anyway and think it would be upgrade for 40n? Or Im wrong? If its not upgrade than I'm wasting money on double network options in both. Any suggestions about that...
Nice review as always.
If I remember well, the power amps are the same in both models. You can check that in my videos
@@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel Thx for replay.
They looks the same but someone write in comment that Marantz answer that 40n have better power amplifier stage. They look the same but maybe have something different that we dont see. They all are 70W for 8 ohm but they said 40n can drive more demanding speaker. If the statement in comment under is true.
If 40n and model 50 have same amp spec. why they didnt name it 50n instead 40n? It seams something is different even we dont see it. Or its just commercial trick :)
Hello Hans, in respect of sound ,this amp vs model30?
See my reviews
would it be possible to use this amplifier, for headphones?
it has a headphones output.
@@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel i know, but isn't danger to damage the headphones?
Have you tested the AV10?
No
The standby pwr supply looks very linear to me. Not an SMPS.
As said in the video, only the transformer is visible, the rest of the power supplies are not visible
It's not a balanced output, so what's the push pull config doing there?
I’m not the designer so I can’t say. But it must have a purpose for it costs money.
@@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel ok. Would it need a certain type of speaker to pair with?
CD60 Vs CD50 for CD only? I mean CDs can sounds better on the 60?
That's a prejudice. Actually, streamers have an easier job getting the bits unharmed and on time to the DAC. So I fully disagree with you. I haven't used a CD-player for years now.
@@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel how do you disagree with me, if I just make a question, I never set a statement. I see you up a new video of the CD50.
Hi Hans thank you again for another great review. When you mention that the speaker pairing should be more budget conscious, than the ones on your setup 2, what are your top 3 suggestions regarding pairing with this amp?
I don't do speaker reviews so I would be a poor source.
Hi Hans great review. I've just returned the PM12SE due to it not sounding as good as my PM50 from 1991! Is this one likely to be better than my PM50? I believe it may have been due to the PM12SE being a D Class.....also will this Model 50 run my Monitor Audio Silver 500's 7th Gen?
I don't know your PM50 nor your Monitor Audios but I would be surprised if the Model 50 wouldn't produce a higher sound quality.
I was thinking buy the PM12 but now I want try this, you already buy the model 50?
I think you confused your "A" and "B" speaker inputs?
did I?
@@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel I believe you highlighted one while saying it was the other. But I'm just being overly pedantic.
Outputs?