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The Bachelor slam dunk has been blocked at the net.........and Doug doesn't get it......the game is over.......and truth once again has prevailed.......
You nailed it again bro. This is so hard to believe for our church leaders to understand this clear truth. May God help us to humble our hearts to learn the truth.
Also, if perfect love had to be shared by three people then a marriage should consist in three people it would be composed of a man and a woman and... ? :-/
Amen to this video. I really don't understand where Past.Doug came with this type of faulty reasoning. hmmm keep an eye on him. Thanks Brother Mansour and God bless
I know both Pr Doug and Nader personally and love both of you. Jesus is an expression of the Fathers love, the very fragrance of His love. I believe Jesus when He says John 20:17 Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God.
What is this rubbish coming out of Doug Bachelor's mouth? God is love regardless of whether there is anyone around to be loved or not. This is 'scrapping-the-barrel' theology rather than a, "Slam dunk". Well done Nader for exposing this foolishness.
Plus when one says "God is Love" be can only he love if he has someone to love meaning God is one person who loves another thus saying God is one Person."
Amen!!! You guys over there at Revelation never cease to amaze me with your detail and dissection for meaning of everything that is said!! may the Lord continue to bless you in your ministry a present truth!!! Lol nothing skips by you guys! Praise God!
Well done. Praise God for truth. Again, I am very shocked at Pastor Doug and this answer on the description of Gods love. Very shocked. I pray the the Holy Spirit will guide him into all truth. It's terrible that so many people look up to him and he is definitely misleading alot of people.
DOES Doug Bachelor and other who promote these Doctrines believe in the Word, DELUSION ???? I believe that this is sone of the Strongest proof of people Under A STRONG DELUSION..
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God is Love and that is why He had His Son to share His Love with Him. Also we are created in their image, male and female like Adam and Eve. If you put a third person between Adam and Eve then they would be breaking the 7th commandment, adultery. If you put another person between the Father and Son, you are worshiping another god and creating spiritual adultery.
@Sweet Awe Christ came so we can learn how to be like him, so we can have the name of His Father written on our foreheads, so we can be a living temple of God... So yes having the character of Jesus is definitely a salvational issue, and that is what will separate us from the rest of this dying world, it's Christ's Righteousness we need.
Ty Gibson is saying this same thing now.. If you follow this way of thinking... You will say the more gods the more love. Why stop at 3... He should just keep going.. If Doug and Ty Gibson are saying 3 is what makes God a "relational" loving God then why not add some more gods? Smh!! No bible and all philosophy!
Starting @ the 1:56 mark of the video the pastor says: "The supreme definition of God is that 'God is love'." [1 John 4:8] That definition must harmonize with the following definition of "God": "But to us there is but ONE GOD, the FATHER,..." [1 Cor.8:6] When we understand from Scripture that "God is love" and that God is the "Father" only, 1 John 4:8 can then be read, in all truth, as follows: "He that loveth not knoweth not the FATHER [God]; for the FATHER [God] is love." [1 John 4:8] This completely nullifies the pastor's philosophical 'argument' regarding "love" and its expression in/through a "trinity" or a "triune" relationship...for only ONE person is GOD. He is the FATHER....according to the plain declaration of Scripture.
The fact that God is love does not mean that at one point in the eternity past God the father of Jesus was not the first in existence; what is the meaning of expression, " God is the father of Jesus ? " Then if they're co-enternal, then what about the expression in the bible that God created man out of His love: does this also mean that man existed at the same time with God? Elder Bachelor is not consisted in his theology. Far more importantly,the Bible put it very clearly that Jesus is the " Begotten son of God, " meaning truly He was the "SON" of God just as as a human has a son. The SDA trinitarian don't agree that they have denied the teaching of spirit of prophecy on that point which has led almost the whole church to believe in this pagan and ligaristic doctrine. May God help to open the eyes of these people.
5:38 Colossians 1:13, "Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated us into the kingdom of *his dear Son:" *Marginal says, "the Son of his love".
AgainThanks pastor Nader....7:13 👌such a great example Defining it Very well .. Happy about your evangelism!🤩 Trinity promoters are getting weaker and weaker by their definitions and videos like doug..misleading GOD's people... Truth always wins the battle as same as the CHRIST..
Nice job sorting this out with such simple clarification of the faulty logic!.. keep up the great work Nader! I must add that the trinity is not “based” upon faulty logic but “upheld” by faulty logic. The basis of the trinity is a lie though I guess that’s not directly relevant to this video revealing bad logic at work.
ayisch, Please explain the LOGIC in God said let US and HE did as US said. E.g., God said let US. Us is plural. Let US make man in OUR image. THEN it says. HE did that. He is singular. To continue, it is written, >"So God created man in HIS own image, in the image of God (< US) created HE him; male and female created HE them." SOooooo "God" said let US and HE did what God, < US said let US do?? This DOES NOT MAKE SENSE!!
Hi Allen, Thx for asking 😊 a) God spoke to His Son, Christ and said let us… “by whom also he made the worlds” - Heb 1:2 b) When a king orders a project, he is usually attributed for the work. Solomon build the temple, and no one claims he did it alone or even made a wall by his own hands, but as the monarch that ordered the temple build, Solomon is attributed as the builder. The “us” and “he” in Gen 1:26 seems no different to me. Regards
Robin Kelly, You higher than highly supremely superior no nothing nincompoop. You do not even SEE what You are saying! FIRST! WHO IS THIS God who has a Son WHO IS ALSO God? IF ANYBODY DOES NOT UNDERSTAND WHAT LET'S MEANS THEN HE/SHE WILL NOT EVEN KNOW WHO SPOT IS IN, "SEE SPOT RUN" WHICH IS A FIRST GRADE ELEMENTARY BOOK! YOU ARROGANT & HAUGHTY EDUCATED DERELICT!! YOU IMPLY I SAID GOD IS A TRINITY MEANING 3 IN 1 WHICH IS A DOCTRINE OF DEMONS. GO EDUCATE &/or GOAD EASY PREY. CAPICE??
ayisch, It IS the 3 letter ENGLISH word God, and that IS THE GOD DAMN PROBLEM!!! NOW YOU & YOUR OTHER HIGHER THAN HIGHLY EDUCATED SUPREMELY SUPERIOR DOCTORS OF THEOLOGY DEGREES THINK/SAY I HAVE USED HIS NAME IN VAIN!! GOD IS A TITLE!!! GOD IS NOT A NAME!! QUEEN IS A TITLE! FOR EXAMPLE > Queen Elizabeth
If you have better explanation why don't you explain? I have study the Bible myself and I found evidence of the Trinity's from Genesis to the book of revelation.
That is ridiculous. A person that has love will express it in some way or another, and it doesn't depend on whether or not someone else shares that love attitude. Love gifts without anyone else telling it to give. We don't know what was going on before Jesus existed. We don't know how long it was or anyting. When the Bible says all things were created through Jesus, that's written for us here on this planet. There may have been things that the father created before Jesus existed, but think about it , He would have missed sharing the joy of creating these things with someone of equal understanding, being alone. Maybe that's why he brought forth his son. And at that point he had a Co-worker ...
Mel Rich, I appreciate Your message very much. To me, ONE physical "CLUE" of how the existence of TWO Spirit beings, instead of one, came to be, is in the Creation of Adam & Eve. Always, there always has been ONE eternal intelligent ENERGY existing. YOU have, and, created within You, the same physical mechanism to bring forth other beings. I do not know how to explain it correctly. Wish I did know how, BUT I cannot explain infinity with my FINITE senses. I believe THAT infinite intelligent energy partook FROM his side and brought forth a like minded companion is the best way I know how to explain it. Is there ANYTHING impossible for him to do? As I tried to say, We just cannot explain anything infinite adequately altho I KNOW there are others who can explain what I'm trying to say much better than I can. Thank You for Your intelligent message.
I like your Teachings but I want to Understand Something, Jesus Existed in Heaven, Desolved into a fetis in Mary's womb , Then was Born as a child in Bethlehem ??
Who and what is this Light before moon and sun were created! Alef Tav את “Alef” is the first and “Tav” is the last letter of the Hebrew alphabet. Just like the English phrase “from A to Z” suggests a full spectrum of thought, Alef-Tav does the same thing in Hebrew and Aramaic. This must especially be borne in the mind because it appears inside the creative act and affirms YHWH’s authorship of creation as “the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End”. In English characters the key phrase is et hashamayim v’et ha’aretz and could literally be thought of in total as “In the beginning, Elohim sent creation to the heavens and the earth”. Alef Tav is “the energy force” behind Creation Who reveals Himself in the name of YHWH. בְּרֵאשִׁית בָּרָא אֱלֹהִים אֵת הַשָּׁמַיִם וְאֵת הָאָרֶץ׃ In the beginning, Elohim created the heavens and the earth וְהָאָרֶץ הָיְתָה תֹהוּ וָבֹהוּ וְחֹשֶׁךְ עַלפְּנֵי תְהוֹם וְרוּחַ אֱלֹהִים מְרַחֶפֶת עַלפְּנֵי הַמָּיִם׃ And the earth was without form and void and darkness was upon the face of the waters. :וַיֹּאמֶר אֱלֹהִים יְהִי אוֹר וַיְהִיאוֹר And Elohim said, “Let there be light” and there was light. Genesis (B’resheet) 1:1-3 Within these first three lines Torah reveals wonderfully deep elements of Mashiyach, that are far beyond coincidence. The very first wordִ בְּרֵאשִׁית (b’resheet) contains a hidden Messianic prophecy teaching us that the son will be the head of all things. Bar is the Aramaic word for “son” and resh means “head, chief” as well as “starting point”. The use of the direct object pointer, as showing what part of a Hebrew sentence receives an action, is also a hint for the deeper truth of the son as the Alef and Tav (the first and the last), the beginning and the completion. Notice the chronological pattern within creation itself. First YHWH speaks (“the Word”) and then He creates (became flesh). His first creation is light which is aur in Hebrew, the Aramaic word for “Torah” is related to that root and used by the rabbis of the Talmud: aurayta. So “let there be light” also suggests, “let there be Torah”; just as within the word b’resheet (in the beginning) is the word breet (covenant). These are clues about who the Son was from the very beginning (the Word), but also that he would be the Living Torah. Mashiyach himself would keep (observe) Torah and as the “first fruits” of all creation he would write Torah upon the hearts of everyone who puts their trust in him.
It's THAT WORD "God" that is confusing. E.g., God said let US. Us is plural. Let US make man in OUR image. THEN it says. HE did that. He is singular. To continue, it is written, >"So God created man in HIS own image, in the image of God created HE him; male and female created HE them." SOooooo "God" said let US and HE did what God, < US said let US do?? This DOES NOT MAKE SENSE!!
Allen Elman Yes...when understood...it does makes sense: "After the earth was created, and the beasts upon it, the Father and Son carried out their purpose, which was designed before the fall of Satan, to make man in their own image. They had wrought together in the creation of the earth and every living thing upon it. And now God said to His Son, “Let us [GOD and His SON] make man in our image.”" {SR 20.2} Ephesians 3:9 And to make all men see what is the fellowship of the mystery, which from the beginning of the world hath been hid in God, who created all things BY Jesus Christ: Hebrews 1:1-2: 1 God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets, 2 Hath in these last days spoken unto us BY HIS SON, whom he [GOD] hath appointed heir of all things, BY WHOM also he [GOD] made the worlds;
God IS Love, poison is NOT a snake but a characteristic of a snake. Its like comparing apples and pears. Your basis which you make your argument is flawed.
Pastor DOUG is telling us the FUNCTIONALITY OF LOVE, how LOVE FUNCTIONS in reality, so IF LOVE is the VERY FABRIC NATURE OF WHO GOD IS then that LOVE would have been FULLY EXPRESSED since when there was GOD in existence let us take a note of this, GOD IS NOT just LOVING but LOVE IN HIMSELF. there is a HUGE difference between these two.. and when it comes to BEGOTTEN or CREATED, the MAIN POINT is there was A PERIOD OF TIME where JESUS did not EXIST.. that's the point of Pastor DOug and not about between begotten or CREATED. Bro NADER is mentioning the LOVING GOD instead of GOD IS LOVE.. GOD IS LOVING is not the same as GOD IS LOVE.. Christ dying on the CROSS is just ANOTHER EXPRESSION OF THE LOVE of GOD to HUMANITY and that's not the EXPRESSION OF LOVE within the GODHEAD.. GOD IS LOVING it is BECAUSE in HIS VERY FABRIC, HE IS LOVE.. HE IS THE EMBODIMENT of LOVE.. GOD IS LOVE and so HE created BEINGs.. on the other hand, GOD can only become LOVING after the FACT when HE created beings.. So GOD IS NOT ONLY LOVING, HE IS LOVE HIMSELF.. so in the TRIUNE this LOVE ALREADY existed between them... ONE IS THE SUBJECT of each other's LOVE.. LOVE IS ALWAYS ABOUT OTHERS and not ABOUT SELF.. This is the BIBLICAL LOVE. Can you imagine a being WHO IS LOVE in HIMSELF being ALONE in the UNIVERSE? if we are that person then that would make us CRAZY.. IT IS LIKE, it is part of our very FABRIC but then we can't really fully express it because there is nothing to express it with.. so BELIEVING THAT GOD IS LOVE BUT there was a PERIOD OF TIME where HE WAS JUST ALONE? that's a DISTORTION.. LOVE DOES NOT FUNCTION that WAY in REALITY.. bro NADER is wrong to say that LOVE won't be LOVE if NOT expressed in his own understanding, he is misquoting what pastor Doug said.. that's not what Pastor Doug is SAYING. Pastor DOUG said, BY ITS "NATURE", LOVE MUST BE EXPRESSED in order to be LOVE. GOD COULD NOT BE LOVE UNLESS IT WAS EXPRESSED. TAKE NOTE, pastor DOUG is talking about the FUNCTIONALITY OF WHAT LOVE IS IN REALITY, HOW DOES LOVE FUNCTION IN REALITY.. and then nader said, what makes LOVE is the EXPRESSION OF LOVE. that's not what doug is saying.. He then uses the poisonous snake, the problem with that is like comparing an apple to a table.. LOVE is never a comparison to poisonous snake or poison. You don't need triunity for the poison to exist but for LOVE, the MINIMUM number to FULLY express that is THREE.. he then uses the words MERCIFUL AND FORGIVING.. PLEASE take note, in the ENTIRE BIBLE, you can never read that GOD IS FORGIVNESS or GOD IS MERCY, only GOD IS LOVE. GOD IS MERCIFUL AND FORGIVING BECAUSE GOD IS LOVE.. He said, GOD BEING LOVE is an INTRINSIC PART OF HIM, it is PART OF HIM which is CORRECT. If someone else is present to LOVE then that is what we call LOVING. When God created ADAM in His image, it didn’t mean that ADAM also became LOVE of HIMSELF.. ONLY GOD IS LOVE bro NADER. HE SAID THAT ADAM did not SUDDENLY become “LOVING BEING” after EVE was made but he could now LAVISH his love on her. HE continuous to say, THE LOVE OF ADAM as PART OF HIS NATURE which in fact is not CORRECT, GOD IS LOVE and no other being like Him. When God created ADAM in His image, that didn’t make ADAM, his very nature LOVE like GOD. That’s an ASSUMPTION. And supposing that ADAM was the only being on earth after creation and he has that nature to LOVE (not like the same as God), Adam became LONELY, something was missing and so God created EVE. This only tells us that can’t be FULLY EXPRESSED in a SOLIDARITY even if that person is LOVE in HIMSELF. Meaning. For BIBLICAL LOVE to FULLY FUNCITON IN REALITY, THERE MUST BE AT LEAST THREE minimum number, not TWO but THREE, absolutely NOT ONE. So, to say that GOD IS LOVE and there was a time when HE WAS ALONE in the entire UNIVERSE, that won’t fit in the DEFINITION OF THE BIBLICAL LOVE. 1 Corinthians 13:4-8 says that LOVE IS NOT SELF SEEKING. so if God IS LOVE in His entire being since the beginning of time then how can that LOVE be seeking OTHERS during that time when nobody else existed? AGAIN, the expression of LOVE does not make LOVE. the EXISTENCE OF LOVE makes this EXPRESSION and that means that BEING ALONE in the UNIVERSE, THIS LOVE CANNOT BE FULLY EXPRESSED, NOT FUNCTIONAL at that time... Can a God of LOVE, in his very fabric of WHO HE IS live in an environment where He is ALONE? Please think that very carefully before you answer. again, can you imagine yourself WHO IS LOVE HIMSELF being ALONE even in a week's time? that will make you crazy right? this is more than just a desire of loving someone... you will probably blow up for not being able to EXPRESS your LOVE because you are ALONE. How about if we believe that there was a PERIOD OF TIME when GOD IS LOVE but ALONE in the entire universe.. Do you think God would just sit around, doing nothing if TRULY HE HIMSELF IS LOVE? so, thinking that GOD WAS ALONE in a period of TIME is IMPOSSIBLE.. that's not HOW LOVE FUNCTIONS IN REALITY.. AND GOD IS THE AUTHOR , CREATOR OF REALITY HIMSELF..
Lol....when we need one theologian to explain and write an essay on what another theologian is saying...well.. classic religious dogma....only in trinity! Go back to the Bible!
Mansour..Stop attacking SDA pastor or SDA doctrines. It is obvious your teaching is different. SDA go to the right, you go to the left. Just make your own church, and we will see who will end up in heaven.
My dear Br, it's not attacking the SDA pastors or whosoever, but we're trying to correct them to base their teachings on Bible and the spirit of prophecy ( Rev 14:12 ) for our common good.
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The Bachelor slam dunk has been blocked at the net.........and Doug doesn't get it......the game is over.......and truth once again has prevailed.......
How much clearer could this be? So frustrating and sad that most people don’t “see” this truth.
You nailed it again bro. This is so hard to believe for our church leaders to understand this clear truth. May God help us to humble our hearts to learn the truth.
Praised the Lord. Thanks Pastor Nader.
Also, if perfect love had to be shared by three people then a marriage should consist in three people it would be composed of a man and a woman and... ? :-/
Exactly, as ty gibson said on 3abn, god is a threesome
@@niceguy9518 Ty Gibson giggled about this! Foul!!!
@@SuperRoseknows we chuckle about the absurdity but it is immoral, disgusting, demonic spiritualism at its core.
Nader, I think you just also restored the meaning of "Slam Dunk" 😁
Thank you Nader. We love "Prove All Things."
Amen to this video. I really don't understand where Past.Doug came with this type of faulty reasoning. hmmm keep an eye on him. Thanks Brother Mansour and God bless
I know both Pr Doug and Nader personally and love both of you. Jesus is an expression of the Fathers love, the very fragrance of His love. I believe Jesus when He says
John 20:17
Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God.
What is this rubbish coming out of Doug Bachelor's mouth? God is love regardless of whether there is anyone around to be loved or not. This is 'scrapping-the-barrel' theology rather than a, "Slam dunk". Well done Nader for exposing this foolishness.
Amen, thank you brother Mansour, GBU.
Plus when one says "God is Love" be can only he love if he has someone to love meaning God is one person who loves another thus saying God is one Person."
Amen!!! You guys over there at Revelation never cease to amaze me with your detail and dissection for meaning of everything that is said!! may the Lord continue to bless you in your ministry a present truth!!! Lol nothing skips by you guys! Praise God!
Amen pastor! Thank you for such a clear explanation.
Well done. Praise God for truth. Again, I am very shocked at Pastor Doug and this answer on the description of Gods love. Very shocked. I pray the the Holy Spirit will guide him into all truth. It's terrible that so many people look up to him and he is definitely misleading alot of people.
The gun to the foot LOL!!! Amen!
DOES Doug Bachelor and other who promote these Doctrines believe in the Word, DELUSION ???? I believe that this is sone of the Strongest proof of people Under A STRONG DELUSION..
Powerfully explained brother
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Doug batchelor learn bible in a cave when he is searching for truth mohamad in islam the same heathens came out from cave
God is Love and that is why He had His Son to share His Love with Him. Also we are created in their image, male and female like Adam and Eve. If you put a third person between Adam and Eve then they would be breaking the 7th commandment, adultery. If you put another person between the Father and Son, you are worshiping another god and creating spiritual adultery.
@Sweet Awe Christ came so we can learn how to be like him, so we can have the name of His Father written on our foreheads, so we can be a living temple of God... So yes having the character of Jesus is definitely a salvational issue, and that is what will separate us from the rest of this dying world, it's Christ's Righteousness we need.
Maybe this is one reason why in the past I have rarely felt consolation with Doug's message. The spirit of God is lacking.
Ty Gibson is saying this same thing now.. If you follow this way of thinking... You will say the more gods the more love. Why stop at 3... He should just keep going.. If Doug and Ty Gibson are saying 3 is what makes God a "relational" loving God then why not add some more gods? Smh!! No bible and all philosophy!
Starting @ the 1:56 mark of the video the pastor says: "The supreme definition of God is that 'God is love'." [1 John 4:8]
That definition must harmonize with the following definition of "God": "But to us there is but ONE GOD, the FATHER,..." [1 Cor.8:6]
When we understand from Scripture that "God is love" and that God is the "Father" only, 1 John 4:8 can then be read, in all truth, as follows:
"He that loveth not knoweth not the FATHER [God]; for the FATHER [God] is love." [1 John 4:8]
This completely nullifies the pastor's philosophical 'argument' regarding "love" and its expression in/through a "trinity" or a "triune" relationship...for only ONE person is GOD. He is the FATHER....according to the plain declaration of Scripture.
The fact that God is love does not mean that at one point in the eternity past God the father of Jesus was not the first in existence; what is the meaning of expression, " God is the father of Jesus ? " Then if they're co-enternal, then what about the expression in the bible that God created man out of His love: does this also mean that man existed at the same time with God?
Elder Bachelor is not consisted in his theology. Far more importantly,the Bible put it very clearly that Jesus is the " Begotten son of God, " meaning truly He was the "SON" of God just as as a human has a son.
The SDA trinitarian don't agree that they have denied the teaching of spirit of prophecy on that point which has led almost the whole church to believe in this pagan and ligaristic doctrine. May God help to open the eyes of these people.
Absolutely!
Beautiful video brother Nader
Psalms 2:7 proves brother Nader right. Where was Jesus before he was begotten?
5:38
Colossians 1:13, "Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated us into the kingdom of *his dear Son:"
*Marginal says, "the Son of his love".
AgainThanks pastor Nader....7:13 👌such a great example
Defining it Very well ..
Happy about your evangelism!🤩
Trinity promoters are getting weaker and weaker by their definitions and videos like doug..misleading GOD's people...
Truth always wins the battle as same as the CHRIST..
Good stuff!
Nice job sorting this out with such simple clarification of the faulty logic!.. keep up the great work Nader!
I must add that the trinity is not “based” upon faulty logic but “upheld” by faulty logic. The basis of the trinity is a lie though I guess that’s not directly relevant to this video revealing bad logic at work.
ayisch,
Please explain the LOGIC in God said let US and HE did as US said. E.g., God said let US. Us is plural. Let US make man in OUR image. THEN it says. HE did that. He is singular. To continue, it is written, >"So God created man in HIS own image, in the image of God (< US) created HE him; male and female created HE them." SOooooo "God" said let US and HE did what God, < US said let US do?? This DOES NOT MAKE SENSE!!
Hi Allen,
Thx for asking 😊
a) God spoke to His Son, Christ and said let us… “by whom also he made the worlds” - Heb 1:2
b) When a king orders a project, he is usually attributed for the work. Solomon build the temple, and no one claims he did it alone or even made a wall by his own hands, but as the monarch that ordered the temple build, Solomon is attributed as the builder. The “us” and “he” in Gen 1:26 seems no different to me.
Regards
Robin Kelly,
You higher than highly supremely superior no nothing nincompoop. You do not even SEE what You are saying! FIRST! WHO IS THIS God who has a Son WHO IS ALSO God? IF ANYBODY DOES NOT UNDERSTAND WHAT LET'S MEANS THEN HE/SHE WILL NOT EVEN KNOW WHO SPOT IS IN, "SEE SPOT RUN" WHICH IS A FIRST GRADE ELEMENTARY BOOK! YOU ARROGANT & HAUGHTY EDUCATED DERELICT!! YOU IMPLY I SAID GOD IS A TRINITY MEANING 3 IN 1 WHICH IS A DOCTRINE OF DEMONS. GO EDUCATE &/or GOAD EASY PREY. CAPICE??
ayisch! Thx for Your "ANSWER" ! Wunnerful wunnerful wunnerful ANSWER!
ayisch,
It IS the 3 letter ENGLISH word God, and that IS THE GOD DAMN PROBLEM!!! NOW YOU & YOUR OTHER HIGHER THAN HIGHLY EDUCATED SUPREMELY SUPERIOR DOCTORS OF THEOLOGY DEGREES THINK/SAY I HAVE USED HIS NAME IN VAIN!! GOD IS A TITLE!!! GOD IS NOT A NAME!! QUEEN IS A TITLE! FOR EXAMPLE > Queen Elizabeth
These arguments by the Trinity promoters gets weaker and more ridicules and also VERY misleading!!!!
You say trinity promoters like its a new thing they made up
@@mykzalot It is not knew but it is made up and they are promoting it. It is not Biblical.
If you have better explanation why don't you explain? I have study the Bible myself and I found evidence of the Trinity's from Genesis to the book of revelation.
Del keleti : what I bet you cannot find is irrefutable proof. Such as "hear oh Israel the Lord your God is three"?
@@keletikeleti7221 me to this video is misleading
How can a man (Doug Batchelor) whom is so profoundly intelligent, say something so profoundly goofy?
That is ridiculous. A person that has love will express it in some way or another, and it doesn't depend on whether or not someone else shares that love attitude. Love gifts without anyone else telling it to give.
We don't know what was going on before Jesus existed. We don't know how long it was or anyting. When the Bible says all things were created through Jesus, that's written for us here on this planet. There may have been things that the father created before Jesus existed, but think about it , He would have missed sharing the joy of creating these things with someone of equal understanding, being alone. Maybe that's why he brought forth his son. And at that point he had a Co-worker ...
Mel Rich,
I appreciate Your message very much.
To me, ONE physical "CLUE" of how the existence of TWO Spirit beings, instead of one, came to be, is in the Creation of Adam & Eve. Always, there always has been ONE eternal intelligent ENERGY existing. YOU have, and, created within You, the same physical mechanism to bring forth other beings. I do not know how to explain it correctly. Wish I did know how, BUT I cannot explain infinity with my FINITE senses. I believe THAT infinite intelligent energy partook FROM his side and brought forth a like minded companion is the best way I know how to explain it. Is there ANYTHING impossible for him to do? As I tried to say, We just cannot explain anything infinite adequately altho I KNOW there are others who can explain what I'm trying to say much better than I can. Thank You for Your intelligent message.
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I like your Teachings but I want to Understand Something, Jesus Existed in Heaven, Desolved into a fetis in Mary's womb , Then was Born as a child in Bethlehem ??
When God made Adam how long was it before he took a rib out of Adam and made Eve? When Adam became lonely.
May you explain the differences between God and Jesus the begotten Son?
When is there a camp meeting I'm interested in going. Please get back to me on this. I am extremely interested.
Roan Mountain TN Sept 15, 2019
Who and what is this Light before moon and sun were created!
Alef Tav
את
“Alef” is the first and “Tav” is the last letter of the Hebrew alphabet. Just like the English phrase “from A to Z” suggests a full spectrum of thought, Alef-Tav does the same thing in Hebrew and Aramaic. This must especially be borne in the mind because it appears inside the creative act and affirms YHWH’s authorship of creation as “the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End”.
In English characters the key phrase is et hashamayim v’et ha’aretz and could literally be thought of in total as “In the beginning, Elohim sent creation to the heavens and the earth”. Alef Tav is “the energy force” behind Creation Who reveals Himself in the name of YHWH.
בְּרֵאשִׁית בָּרָא אֱלֹהִים אֵת הַשָּׁמַיִם וְאֵת הָאָרֶץ׃
In the beginning, Elohim created the heavens and the earth
וְהָאָרֶץ הָיְתָה תֹהוּ וָבֹהוּ וְחֹשֶׁךְ עַלפְּנֵי תְהוֹם וְרוּחַ אֱלֹהִים מְרַחֶפֶת עַלפְּנֵי הַמָּיִם׃
And the earth was without form and void and darkness was upon the face of the waters.
:וַיֹּאמֶר אֱלֹהִים יְהִי אוֹר וַיְהִיאוֹר
And Elohim said, “Let there be light” and there was light.
Genesis (B’resheet) 1:1-3
Within these first three lines Torah reveals wonderfully deep elements of Mashiyach, that are far beyond coincidence. The very first wordִ בְּרֵאשִׁית (b’resheet) contains a hidden Messianic prophecy teaching us that the son will be the head of all things. Bar is the Aramaic word for “son” and resh means “head, chief” as well as “starting point”. The use of the direct object pointer, as showing what part of a Hebrew sentence receives an action, is also a hint for the deeper truth of the son as the Alef and Tav (the first and the last), the beginning and the completion.
Notice the chronological pattern within creation itself. First YHWH speaks (“the Word”) and then He creates (became flesh). His first creation is light which is aur in Hebrew, the Aramaic word for “Torah” is related to that root and used by the rabbis of the Talmud: aurayta. So “let there be light” also suggests, “let there be Torah”; just as within the word b’resheet (in the beginning) is the word breet (covenant). These are clues about who the Son was from the very beginning (the Word), but also that he would be the Living Torah. Mashiyach himself would keep (observe) Torah and as the “first fruits” of all creation he would write Torah upon the hearts of everyone who puts their trust in him.
Id say this is a slam dunk ;)
It's THAT WORD "God" that is confusing. E.g., God said let US. Us is plural. Let US make man in OUR image. THEN it says. HE did that. He is singular. To continue, it is written, >"So God created man in HIS own image, in the image of God created HE him; male and female created HE them." SOooooo "God" said let US and HE did what God, < US said let US do?? This DOES NOT MAKE SENSE!!
Allen Elman
Yes...when understood...it does makes sense:
"After the earth was created, and the beasts upon it, the Father and Son carried out their purpose, which was designed before the fall of Satan, to make man in their own image. They had wrought together in the creation of the earth and every living thing upon it. And now God said to His Son, “Let us [GOD and His SON] make man in our image.”" {SR 20.2}
Ephesians 3:9
And to make all men see what is the fellowship of the mystery, which from the beginning of the world hath been hid in God, who created all things BY Jesus Christ:
Hebrews 1:1-2:
1 God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets,
2 Hath in these last days spoken unto us BY HIS SON, whom he [GOD] hath appointed heir of all things, BY WHOM also he [GOD] made the worlds;
God IS Love, poison is NOT a snake but a characteristic of a snake. Its like comparing apples and pears. Your basis which you make your argument is flawed.
Pastor DOUG is telling us the FUNCTIONALITY OF LOVE, how LOVE FUNCTIONS in reality, so IF LOVE is the VERY FABRIC NATURE OF WHO GOD IS then that LOVE would have been FULLY EXPRESSED since when there was GOD in existence let us take a note of this, GOD IS NOT just LOVING but LOVE IN HIMSELF. there is a HUGE difference between these two.. and when it comes to BEGOTTEN or CREATED, the MAIN POINT is there was A PERIOD OF TIME where JESUS did not EXIST.. that's the point of Pastor DOug and not about between begotten or CREATED. Bro NADER is mentioning the LOVING GOD instead of GOD IS LOVE.. GOD IS LOVING is not the same as GOD IS LOVE.. Christ dying on the CROSS is just ANOTHER EXPRESSION OF THE LOVE of GOD to HUMANITY and that's not the EXPRESSION OF LOVE within the GODHEAD.. GOD IS LOVING it is BECAUSE in HIS VERY FABRIC, HE IS LOVE.. HE IS THE EMBODIMENT of LOVE.. GOD IS LOVE and so HE created BEINGs.. on the other hand, GOD can only become LOVING after the FACT when HE created beings.. So GOD IS NOT ONLY LOVING, HE IS LOVE HIMSELF.. so in the TRIUNE this LOVE ALREADY existed between them... ONE IS THE SUBJECT of each other's LOVE.. LOVE IS ALWAYS ABOUT OTHERS and not ABOUT SELF.. This is the BIBLICAL LOVE. Can you imagine a being WHO IS LOVE in HIMSELF being ALONE in the UNIVERSE? if we are that person then that would make us CRAZY.. IT IS LIKE, it is part of our very FABRIC but then we can't really fully express it because there is nothing to express it with.. so BELIEVING THAT GOD IS LOVE BUT there was a PERIOD OF TIME where HE WAS JUST ALONE? that's a DISTORTION.. LOVE DOES NOT FUNCTION that WAY in REALITY..
bro NADER is wrong to say that LOVE won't be LOVE if NOT expressed in his own understanding, he is misquoting what pastor Doug said.. that's not what Pastor Doug is SAYING. Pastor DOUG said, BY ITS "NATURE", LOVE MUST BE EXPRESSED in order to be LOVE. GOD COULD NOT BE LOVE UNLESS IT WAS EXPRESSED. TAKE NOTE, pastor DOUG is talking about the FUNCTIONALITY OF WHAT LOVE IS IN REALITY, HOW DOES LOVE FUNCTION IN REALITY.. and then nader said, what makes LOVE is the EXPRESSION OF LOVE. that's not what doug is saying.. He then uses the poisonous snake, the problem with that is like comparing an apple to a table.. LOVE is never a comparison to poisonous snake or poison. You don't need triunity for the poison to exist but for LOVE, the MINIMUM number to FULLY express that is THREE.. he then uses the words MERCIFUL AND FORGIVING.. PLEASE take note, in the ENTIRE BIBLE, you can never read that GOD IS FORGIVNESS or GOD IS MERCY, only GOD IS LOVE. GOD IS MERCIFUL AND FORGIVING BECAUSE GOD IS LOVE..
He said, GOD BEING LOVE is an INTRINSIC PART OF HIM, it is PART OF HIM which is CORRECT. If someone else is present to LOVE then that is what we call LOVING. When God created ADAM in His image, it didn’t mean that ADAM also became LOVE of HIMSELF.. ONLY GOD IS LOVE bro NADER. HE SAID THAT ADAM did not SUDDENLY become “LOVING BEING” after EVE was made but he could now LAVISH his love on her. HE continuous to say, THE LOVE OF ADAM as PART OF HIS NATURE which in fact is not CORRECT, GOD IS LOVE and no other being like Him. When God created ADAM in His image, that didn’t make ADAM, his very nature LOVE like GOD. That’s an ASSUMPTION. And supposing that ADAM was the only being on earth after creation and he has that nature to LOVE (not like the same as God), Adam became LONELY, something was missing and so God created EVE. This only tells us that can’t be FULLY EXPRESSED in a SOLIDARITY even if that person is LOVE in HIMSELF. Meaning. For BIBLICAL LOVE to FULLY FUNCITON IN REALITY, THERE MUST BE AT LEAST THREE minimum number, not TWO but THREE, absolutely NOT ONE. So, to say that GOD IS LOVE and there was a time when HE WAS ALONE in the entire UNIVERSE, that won’t fit in the DEFINITION OF THE BIBLICAL LOVE.
1 Corinthians 13:4-8 says that LOVE IS NOT SELF SEEKING. so if God IS LOVE in His entire being since the beginning of time then how can that LOVE be seeking OTHERS during that time when nobody else existed? AGAIN, the expression of LOVE does not make LOVE. the EXISTENCE OF LOVE makes this EXPRESSION and that means that BEING ALONE in the UNIVERSE, THIS LOVE CANNOT BE FULLY EXPRESSED, NOT FUNCTIONAL at that time... Can a God of LOVE, in his very fabric of WHO HE IS live in an environment where He is ALONE? Please think that very carefully before you answer.
again, can you imagine yourself WHO IS LOVE HIMSELF being ALONE even in a week's time? that will make you crazy right? this is more than just a desire of loving someone... you will probably blow up for not being able to EXPRESS your LOVE because you are ALONE. How about if we believe that there was a PERIOD OF TIME when GOD IS LOVE but ALONE in the entire universe.. Do you think God would just sit around, doing nothing if TRULY HE HIMSELF IS LOVE? so, thinking that GOD WAS ALONE in a period of TIME is IMPOSSIBLE.. that's not HOW LOVE FUNCTIONS IN REALITY.. AND GOD IS THE AUTHOR , CREATOR OF REALITY HIMSELF..
Lol....when we need one theologian to explain and write an essay on what another theologian is saying...well.. classic religious dogma....only in trinity!
Go back to the Bible!
Mansour..Stop attacking SDA pastor or SDA doctrines. It is obvious your teaching is different. SDA go to the right, you go to the left. Just make your own church, and we will see who will end up in heaven.
My dear Br, it's not attacking the SDA pastors or whosoever, but we're trying to correct them to base their teachings on Bible and the spirit of prophecy ( Rev 14:12 ) for our common good.
*[[Isa 58:1]] KJV* Cry aloud, spare not, lift up thy voice like a trumpet, and shew my people their transgression, and the house of Jacob their sins.
Exposing erroneous teaching is not attacking but rather a Search and Rescue operation. You would do well to take heed brother.
@@mpandamulusa8080 whatever your argument, I can guarantee you are in the wrong side..
@@Revelation1412org you are not SDA, we are not brother. You are in the wrong way..