Why Write A 75 Page Screenplay? by West Liang
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I get it.... I have a 73 page script and with my budget, it will allow me to shoot 8 pages a day...but I only have 3 locations, this plays a huge part. Great interview.
Christopher Nolan's Dunkirk was 75 pages long. I see what he's saying.
These videos are really good. I'm currently working on a script, and these videos really inspire and just make me want to keep on writing. I might not feel like writing sometimes but then I watch these and they really make me want to get on with it, good job Film Courage and keep the interviews coming. I've finally given in and am going to subscribe.
Thanks Cody! And welcome to the channel. Hope we can continue to inform and inspire.
Wes is very smart. I aim for around 80 pages for most of my low budget scripts. if you do get all your pages shot you may have bad coverage...kinda something we faced when I directed Turn Around Jake with him.
keep it short...oh and don't rush into production. another thing my screenwriting instructor, Corey Mandell, would say, "Does your conflict support your page count?". sometimes the overly verbose scripts just become really boring and uninteresting.
let's remember this guy writes fairly normal dramas or comedies. It's not like he's written Reservoir Dogs or Whiplash which have a cinematic vision. Liang is basically a traditional indie filmmaker focused on friendships and relationships in rooms
@Biruk Tebase keep us posted. Excited to see your progress. If you wanna chat hmu.
No need to act all condescending. Jesus Christ.
And there ARE good movies under 80 minutes with "cinematic visions" -- Ju-on the Curse comes to mind, not perfect but DEFINITELY had vision, and was only *70 minutes* in total runtime. Much lower budget but imho the best film in the franchise (Part 2 is pretty good as well). Having a long run time doesn't mean shit, imho.
(That said I could've totally misinterpreted your comment.)
Great insights into the exciting and tumultuous world of indie film making!
Yeah interesting. Reminds me of an unknown Australian writer/director I read about who had a philosophy of writing less knowing it would "blow out" in shooting. (You can end up with way more than your gonna use ) so he wrote something like 1-2 min script for a 6 min short film festival (don't quote me on exact numbers) He won it. He went on later to direct the third Expendables movie if my memory serves me correctly.not a bad gig- directing sly stallone, Mel Gibson and Harrison Ford in one movie!
Interesting thoughts on this, I seem to be experiencing the opposite a bit. I just shot a short film, it was only 12 pages long. Turned out to be 23 min at first then cut to 18. The current film I am shooting is around 60 pages in script but is turning into a full 1.5 hour or so movie. Seems I see things missing in the script to make it flow more smoothly and add as need be. but again, I'm not pinning myself down with I have only 10 days to shoot the entire thing and I am small still to be able to just do most of it myself. Shooting shorts and commercials at the moment ramping up for the big spec scripts i have written, all at 95 pages. Cheers.
85 pages Im very much aware of the number of pages and sometimes that hinders my storytelling and I know I have get better than that.
where can I watch the movie I looked cant find anything...
I learned to write by watching tons of movies. Unfortunately, I developed a disability but thankful it didn’t affect my fingers and imagination. I have no intentions to direct so I still have to seek the approval of a producer.
One of my goals is to actually write a 75-page first draft and have the script no longer than 87 pages on the rewrite. So far, IMO my scripts have been too long (99-120) for an unsold screenwriter.
Keeping it short and precise, It's weird but I understand it from a money point of view.
When you're planning on shooting the movie after writing it, then what's the point of making it longer an leaving out stuff afterwards. I really understand this way of writing and I do it this way as well. My first short was 45 pages long and now I'm aiming for something around 60.
But for me, I just write the story, that's in my head and when it's over after whatever pages, then it's over and I don't see a point in elongating the script just for the sake of length, at least for me. I do understand shortening it for budget or time related reasons though.
I understand the benefits of doing things this way. Less is more, quality over quantity... His stories can be more concise, yeah, yeah! I'm all for cutting unnecessary crap out of a script but what ever happened to writing the story YOU wanna write?
He sounds like he's going pretty out of his way to cut content from so and so scripts. Content that SOMEONE could love. Content that no one or not many will get to see. Content that coulda, woulda, shoulda been in. He's basically letting constraints such as budget and time shape his scripts rather than his boundless imagination. I couldn't do this man, but that's just me.
MrMagnificentMedia Because he knows that there will be a money limitation he takes creative control before the shoot so HE can decide what to leave in there and what not. In his last project other forces determined what wasn't shot. So basically he optimizes his creative control over the resulting film. It's a tough balance between imagination and reality that every film maker eventually has to master if he or she doesn't want to let the result be determined by other influences.
Yeah but why not build up your name, reputation and finances to the point where you can make that script exactly how (or at least close to how) you envisioned it? There's nothing wrong with leaving scripts/ ideas on the back-burner, some projects just have to wait. Wait for what? For technology to advance, for trends to pick up and for your name to become a little bit more renowned.
Take James Cameron for example, he waited several years before he could make Avatar... And look how that paid off. But like I said, I understand both sides of the argument, me personally though, I'd rather not compromise or restrain my ideas because "Oh, this might cost a lot to make" or "Movie studio X or Y would never take a chance on this script".
I can understand your side aswell but I'm afraid it's often not possible in reality. For example: How should he build up his reputation if he's not making any movies? The way I see it he might have some ambitious ideas in his backdrawer but this was one he COULD develop in 75 pages so he was able to make a better movie than his last one. I love James Cameron. But there are three key differences: 1. He writes Science Fiction where minimalism in effects and sets (= a smaller budget) is harder to pull off. 2. He started in times when it would have been hard or impossible to make a movie like The Terminator without a bigger production company but it was also easier to get a green light for such a production. He is in his own way a screenwriter genius. But what do you do if you want to make a movie in this day and age when you are not a genius? You most likely fund and produce it yourself so you get some recognition if the finished product is any good. Thats what this guy did (I suppose) and it was a smart tactic of him because now we at least talk about him (while 1000s of wanna be film makers get no recognition at all). Maybe I will check out his movies so I know wtf we are talking about here. Maybe you are right and his 75 page movie does feel cut down. ;)
We need to remember that we are there for audience not the other way around.
For sale, baby's shoes, never worn. There is your answer.
I'm currently writing a family drama and from the look of things, I may finish at around 70-something pages, and this freaks me out because I always hear that a script needs to be 90-100 pages. So I find myself adding unnecessary scenes just to elongate the script. Is it such a crime to write short feature length scripts?! Cuz my mind is saying YES.
Depends where you're thinking of placing it but 90-100 pages is what I aim for and I have done what you do by adding bits to get that page count up but I found it elevates the script by developing characters a little bit more. Most people over write with too many characters, too many subplots, too many locations; I keep it down to a few characters; I generally around 5 and no subplots. It's often useful to think who will be reading; your work has to be better than the hundreds of other scripts they've read; needs to stand out but most of all it must be commercial. I have readers and audience with me on every page.
I like aiming for 100 now. That's the golden number for me. I've written three that clocked in at 75 though that I plan to get to 90.
85-90 is the ideal I think.
You know?
Shit i've written 2 screenplays both of them over 100 pages.
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