That is what i like about the movie Shrek; it is a parody of basically every fairy tail Disney out there, but the one thing it takes absolutely dead serious is following the steps in the Hero's Journey. And it just works.
That must be why he's never sold a single script to a major (or even minor) studio. That is quite remarkable indeed that so many will listen to a man who cannot do what he teaches.
DDumbrille, except that was not Michael's role in the industry. He CAN do what he teaches, but that is not what he does. He understands what and works and helps the best in the business be able to do that and he has been in Hollywood long enough to understand all that stuff. And most that can do, CANNOT teach. They just aren't able to do it. And he has sold scripts. How do you figure he got his foot in the door in the first place.
As much as I agree that he’s a great teacher, and as much as he does make valid, interesting points New writers shouldn’t obsess with structure rules. Scorsese says throw the structures out the window. Create something that hasn’t been created before. Which is exactly what Scorsese has done over and over. Unless of course, you want to write Shrek.
Yeah i agree. I like his character arc structure, but having it take place exactly at certain points of the story is where i disagree with him. I write fantasy and the scope is so large that each premise has unusual predicates that don't fit neatly into a 3 act structure or any of the save the cat plot points, and i'm happy with my stories. I'm just doing the final revision of my first book before submission, and i've already planned out 4 books in the series.
I think these ideas also apply to some classic movies. In Billy Wilder's "The Apartment" C.C. Baxter (Jack Lemmon) is getting taken advantage of by the senior execs at the insurance company where he works. He makes his apartment available and makes himself scarce so that they can have a place to chase women without word getting back to their wives. Baxter takes this because he wants to get ahead quickly and believes these guys will honor their IOUs that he's holding. That is until the VP of Personnel finds out and artfully gets Baxter under his thumb and cuts the other members of "the club" out. Baxter gets another view of himself as regarding this game when the girl he has a crush on, Fran Kubelik, (Shirley MacLaine) who is the boss's girl of the moment wants out of the affair so badly she swallows half a bottle of sleeping pills. Baxter gets her back to health and falls in love with her. He plans to tell his boss that "good old" Baxter will marry Miss Kubelik allowing the boss to go back to his wife and family. Except that the boss doesn't want to go back. In fact, he can't because the boss's secretary, an earlier mistress, tells all to the boss's wife who wants a really big settlement. Baxter thinks he best leave Fran alone and concentrate on his new job, assistant to the V.P.. of Personnel. Until he learns that the boss doesn't want to "rush in" to a new marriage. Why spoil things now? And then he pushes Baxter last button when he asks for a new key to Baxter's apartment. He had thrown his copy away when he thought Fran might die and the key could implicate him. Baxter gives him the key to the executive washroom, Baxter walks out Fran later chases after him and they start a new life symbolized by a gin rummy game.
Shrek, Sleepless in seatle, Titanic....wow really, yes that are awesome films to put on someone top 10 list who loves cinema. Ofcourse those rule work on those films cause they are made for children, simply to entertain, to watch and be stupid, not that they are bad, but come on how do you put these rules on for example La cienaga from Martel or 100.000 other films that are actually meaningful to cinema.
Martijn Maria Smits these movies are rudimentary teaching tools. You can’t master calculus till you understand the basic math concepts. Not to mention that life does get complicated, but the fundamentals can and do save you from those complications.
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The second he admitted that something he had believed previously was wrong I knew I needed to listen to this man.
He's awesome!
Agreed
FTL Studios me too. I was seconds away from clicking to another video until he admitted that
That is what i like about the movie Shrek; it is a parody of basically every fairy tail Disney out there, but the one thing it takes absolutely dead serious is following the steps in the Hero's Journey.
And it just works.
Honestly, this was more than advice for writing. It touched a deeper cord! Thank you
This is a great video. Even to the end he still told a story of actual character development.
He just gave so much insight on how to develop your characters. Thanks a ton, Michael! Gotta love RUclips and the content creators. Subbed.
Michael is pretty amazing.
Word life
Amazing teacher.
Wow this is the guy you want in the writing process. Priceless advice. Ty.
Hauge is one of the best!
Yup!
Howard Koor ii
Excellent, Inspiring, and Awakening!
Well i can't describe this guy's wisdom in words
Michael is remarkable.
That must be why he's never sold a single script to a major (or even minor) studio. That is quite remarkable indeed that so many will listen to a man who cannot do what he teaches.
DDumbrille dont confuse teaching with doing... just look at the best sports coaches.
DDumbrille, except that was not Michael's role in the industry. He CAN do what he teaches, but that is not what he does. He understands what and works and helps the best in the business be able to do that and he has been in Hollywood long enough to understand all that stuff. And most that can do, CANNOT teach. They just aren't able to do it.
And he has sold scripts. How do you figure he got his foot in the door in the first place.
I’m writing my short film for my thesis project. This helped a lot thanks
This arc is similar to real life and how we develop as humans.
that's why it hits home in feature films
Brilliant!! Thanks for posting!
As much as I agree that he’s a great teacher, and as much as he does make valid, interesting points New writers shouldn’t obsess with structure rules. Scorsese says throw the structures out the window. Create something that hasn’t been created before. Which is exactly what Scorsese has done over and over. Unless of course, you want to write Shrek.
Yeah i agree. I like his character arc structure, but having it take place exactly at certain points of the story is where i disagree with him. I write fantasy and the scope is so large that each premise has unusual predicates that don't fit neatly into a 3 act structure or any of the save the cat plot points, and i'm happy with my stories. I'm just doing the final revision of my first book before submission, and i've already planned out 4 books in the series.
Amazing! Helpful and insightful!
ur welcome!
brilliant
Thx u!!!
amazing
amazing!
I think 'Taxi driver' could be a better example with regards to this aspect. What is the book he wrote? Going to place an order...
Shrek is love. Shrek is life.
you have seen things
That was super accurate and great but also Shrek is love,Shrek is life.💕💪🏼🙌🏻✨
This man is a freakin genious ¡¡¡
joseafalvel Not to be a jerk but try googling Genious. ^_^ (I get how you would assume the "U" has a place in there but sadly it doesn't.)
I love this... I hate this...
I think these ideas also apply to some classic movies. In Billy Wilder's "The Apartment" C.C. Baxter (Jack Lemmon) is getting taken advantage of by the senior execs at the insurance company where he works. He makes his apartment available and makes himself scarce so that they can have a place to chase women without word getting back to their wives. Baxter takes this because he wants to get ahead quickly and believes these guys will honor their IOUs that he's holding. That is until the VP of Personnel finds out and artfully gets Baxter under his thumb and cuts the other members of "the club" out. Baxter gets another view of himself as regarding this game when the girl he has a crush on, Fran Kubelik, (Shirley MacLaine) who is the boss's girl of the moment wants out of the affair so badly she swallows half a bottle of sleeping pills. Baxter gets her back to health and falls in love with her. He plans to tell his boss that "good old" Baxter will marry Miss Kubelik allowing the boss to go back to his wife and family. Except that the boss doesn't want to go back. In fact, he can't because the boss's secretary, an earlier mistress, tells all to the boss's wife who wants a really big settlement. Baxter thinks he best leave Fran alone and concentrate on his new job, assistant to the V.P.. of Personnel. Until he learns that the boss doesn't want to "rush in" to a new marriage. Why spoil things now? And then he pushes Baxter last button when he asks for a new key to Baxter's apartment. He had thrown his copy away when he thought Fran might die and the key could implicate him. Baxter gives him the key to the executive washroom, Baxter walks out Fran later chases after him and they start a new life symbolized by a gin rummy game.
Steven Bosch that's the way it crumbles, cookie-wise.
*When you think you're taking a film class and get schooled on life
Ladies and gentlemen this is why Shrek is one of the greatest story ever told
After walking dead, bioshock infinite and last of us
WWF
To be fair, they _used_ to be WWF until 2002 (when they were taken to court) before they were WWE
Some of your links seem to be infected, I won't be clicking any more.
Thx u. They've been fixed.
what, no bullshit comments about, 'don't box yourself in creatively by writing using a formula!'?
cool, butttttt so formulaic
skeletonbite That's basically the point. It's letting the plot write itself.
Shrek, Sleepless in seatle, Titanic....wow really, yes that are awesome films to put on someone top 10 list who loves cinema. Ofcourse those rule work on those films cause they are made for children, simply to entertain, to watch and be stupid, not that they are bad, but come on how do you put these rules on for example La cienaga from Martel or 100.000 other films that are actually meaningful to cinema.
Martijn Maria Smits these movies are rudimentary teaching tools. You can’t master calculus till you understand the basic math concepts. Not to mention that life does get complicated, but the fundamentals can and do save you from those complications.
The volume is way too low and I can't hear what the guy is saying!
Just read Joseph Campbell. He wrote a book called "The Hero's Journey" .....Shrek as worthy of film analysis? no wonder shitty movies get made.
Fuck you. Shrek is a masterpiece.