To be born on a feral world means being guaranteed a life devoid of peace and happiness? Pretty sure imperial citizens aren't happy or at peace either....
actually outside of pleasure worlds. Places like Ultramar aren't so bad.. think about it in terms of the real world.. There's a high chance you can be born into a developing country, into a poor family having to dig through mountains of garbage to survive. That sounds dystopic, but that's the reality of atleast 1 billion people IRL..
rikki kingston yet mere mortals have held the line against the warp abominations for thousands of years. Faith is a powerful tool and the Emperor... protects.
The Salamanders, Ultramarines and Space Wolves would like to have a word. The Salamanders are expected to retain family ties and be pillars of their community when not on deployment. The Ultramarines become Politicians in their hometowns/homeworlds essentially when not deployed. The Space Wolves remember enough to know who they wanted to Bone.
@@PugMaxer ESPECIALLY Arch Warhammer. I could and often do listen to Arch for hours. His delivery and his insights are truly worthy of the Emperor's blessing.
I dunno, there's some worlds with comparable living standards to our own. The problem is they tend to be few and far between, and by dint of population sizes you're more likely to be crapped out onto a hive world. Enjoy your toxic dust storms and buggery by Genestealer cults!
I believe that the reason why Space Marines don't recruit from Imperial Guard planets is because if they did, then those planets wouldn't provide a tithe anymore. For example: If Space Marines started recruiting Catachans, then Catachan would no longer be raising regiments. Note: I'm not a huge Warhammer40k fan, just a casual fan. If I'm wrong please correct me.
Emmm everything is explained in the vid also the bolter bitches don't recruit from PDF or Guards because women are to hard to indoctrinate as they are to old.
@J D: The Imperial Fists chapter of Space Marines are known to recruit from the hive world of Necromunda. The world also raises many regiments of Necromundan Guard.
@Matt the Ultramarines and some of their second generation orders recruits from the worlds of ultramar and their from the recuiting army camps. It's an honour for the Familys of Ultramar if one of their childs Chosen to be a space marine. Their are more ways to recruit new space marine aspirants for the space marine orders, i read 16 or more years GW books, white dwarfs and storys there's no word in it that this recruits has natural psychotic killerinstincts, the children are strong in body and in mind. Sorry 4 my bad english, i hope you will understand what i wish to say.
I've become obsessed with the lore of warhammer thanks to this channel. Ive directed maybe 10+ people this way. Keep it up. You guys are doing the emperor's work.
I'd imagine even the kids taken from warrior societies have had it pretty rough too. Look at Klingon kids, who though they live in a technologically and philosophically sophisticated society, are still put through the wringer to mold them into warriors. Same with training children of medieval knights, a full belly means you have the means to train that much harder.
THEY participate in glorious combat for humanity! What are you, a traitor to your Emperor for creating such blessed creatures. (Slams exterminatus button!)
Random Typer002 if the emperor gave you the finger, you'd wish you'd been exterminatus'd. the psychic might of that Man is enormous, if the Emperor didn't want what was best for you, would he have sat in the torture chair, immobilized, constantly assaulted by the vile entities of the warp, which burned his best friend and 2nd most powerful psyker, into dust in only a few hours, for 10,000 years? And how do you repay him? you and your ungrateful followers go and make friends with foul xenos scum, or worse, daemons? You'd be lucky to receive exterminatus.
I meant to say was, if i was a travelling random nigh-omnipotent being and ends up visiting the 40k universe and i just witnessed what this universe is up to. Plus i get caught in the crossfire and someone just slammed the exterminatus button, then my physical puppet body will be vaporized while i was busy watching everything from outside the galaxy. So i gave the entire universe a middle finger and said, "Hope you burn and stay in hell forever, you sadistic religious zealot nutjobs." Also another middle finger to the chaos gods. (Sorry if my comment didn't make sense.)
You are aware that the "god emperor" humie lazor eyes only exists in the mind of the ORK? An ork believes there is an endless emperium ruled by a humie with lazerz for eyes, and thus it is so. The belief of orks is what powers such a violent and beautiful universe!
Suggestion: Horrible realities of Necrontyr civilians! (before them being turned into Necrons for anyone who is about to yell at me that there are no Necrontyr anymore)
Please do not ignore, that the term "Infantry" comes from the word "infant" and was in Europe of early modern history those regiments where poor and desperate families gave their children when they were not able to feet them or searched for compensation in case of the kid being killed in combat! So child-soldiers are a phenomenon that was common around the globe!
A fantastically correct lore video. Thank you for having the attention to detail to mention pretty much everything they do to break and remake these humans into space marines.
That movie sucked, it was full of stereotypes and I could hardly sympathize with the clichè characters. No one had any unique personality or felt like a real person.
1:56 actually it's not as hard to breed savagery in children as you would think. Compassion and knowing right from wrong aren't things most children understand and add bad circumstances on it and you have monsters. There's a reason children soldiers are so effective. I forgot who said it but there was a quote akin to "the only problem with children soldiers is their size"
Some chapters allow their marines to stay in contact with their families, though I'm not sure that's a good thing. It may only cause him more grief to bear witness to what all he has lost and will never retain. I for one would choose to forget it all completely, let no seed of doubt gain bearing in an already tormented soul.
I wonder what kind of relationship the aspirants build between themselves? how do they view their masters? What kind of reaction do they get from seeing one of them fail or succeed? Suggestion: Aspirant point of view of the recruitment process.
When Grimdark doesn't just veer into Grimderp but goes screaming into it at 10,000mph. I'm sure this process or some variation occurs with chapters like the Carcharadons, Flesh Tearers or Marines Malevolent. But it would be hugely out of character for one's like the Ultramarines, Salamanders or even the Space Wolves.
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I don't really agree with saying "it's almost impossible to remember their past" from what we see from the book, a lot of marines talk about their childhood and it seems to come quite easy too them, do they care? Not really, they don't NEED to remember their past, but realistically they can
~ 10:20 and ~ 12:00 So do they worship Emperor as a god or no? Also, recruitment is different in every chapter just look at Salamanders, they still visit and take care of their families etc.
No, most chapters do not. The Black Templars and the salamander are all examples that do but the majority know that he was just a really bas ass psyker. And yes we were going to go in deeper on all the different recruitment methods but that's not what the video was about. Check out our 40 facts on becoming a spacemarine to get that lore.
I'm questioning whether or not Space Marines are actually needed. The Imperial Guard have proven themselves capable of holding their own against the greatest threats the galaxy has to offer (cadia). You don't need gene seeds to use power armor, bolter weapons, plasma weapons, etc. (sisters of battle). Nor do you need gene seeds to accumulate centuries worth of combat experience (life extension drugs used by the nobility). Why not give experienced Guard better weapons and armor (like the sisters) and life extension for effective officers/troops (like the nobility)? Unlike Space Marines, or Sisters, these Guardsmen/Guardswomen would be under the direct authority of the Lords of Terra (no going against their orders). They have children, spouses, etc. that would keep them attached/loyal to the Imperium (if they went rogue who would protect those people, keep them fed, provide them with medicine, etc.?). They can be mixed to prevent tribal loyalties from overriding empire loyalties (ultramarines consider ultramar their home. if it came down to a choice between protecting ultramar and another part of the imperium there is a chance they choose ultramar. however if only a portion of ultramarines came from ultramar that chance is far less likely.) They can be recruited from their best and brightest (issue mandatory military service for everyone in the Imperium. have them go through military training. this can be done at an early age. those showing a high ability to control themselves, coordinate/lead their squad, think under pressure, and come up with brilliant plans in bad situations are kept as recruits for these special squads and/or given officers status. the rest are kept as grunts or relived from duty. this also has the added ability of minimizing losses.) They have less prone to violent outbursts which can lead to poor decision making (angry people do not make good decisions)
Because Guardsmen tend to win by throwing wave after wave of men at the enemy until the guns are clogged with the bodies of dead guardsmen. Lords of Terra have been proven to be utterly incompetent in the past(War of the Beast) and giving them direct control is an easy way to see the Imperium plummet as the lords command armies to fight for their personal gain. Guardsmen already have kids, they're called Whiteshields. Imperium already has mandatory service, that's that the tithe is. They are far more prone to a serious case of stupid, which only gets worse the more promotions they get.
Nope, sure you have a ton of guardsmen but when they come against orks and the like it is out number and outkill guards men 1 to 100 sure a guardsmen hold the line but only for so long, the better weaponry can only be operated by beings of stronger threshold, well guards man could be upgraded with battle much suits and such, then you have the immaterial world that infects men to turn them into cultists and demons
Kingneo Yea, no. Space Marines are also much more resistant to Chaos corruption, 100x times more loyal, smarter, stronger. Most of Space Marine weapons cannot be fired by normal humans because recoil would break bones, etc. In a world where creatures bigger than apartment blocks roam around wanting to kill you, you need genetically modified super soldiers. Also Imperial Guard has many times lost worlds or barely kept them until Space Marines were brought in to take control.
Kingneo because games workshop wants a reason to have a cool other army called "space marines." They'll make up whatever story they need to maintain its reason for existence.
Sisters of Battle are even less likely to turn to Chaos than Space Marines and they are regular people. The loyalty of a Space Marine is due to their recruitment and training at an early age. That can be replicated. Matter of fact we can use the fact that they have family that Chaos/Xenos want to destroy as an additional reason for them to fight/not rebel (unlike Space Marines). Sisters of Battle use Bolters and Power Armor. Not the same strength than what Space Marines are using, but far better than what the Guard are using now. That will drastically improve performance. Apartment sized creatures are dealt with through Air Support and Titans. The weapons equipped on Imperial Ships and Titans are more than enough to deal with that.
I my self was old enough to remember seeing the late two thousands thing "the invisible children project" but am just now where u were then in the late 2000's but in the 20, tens' I know the feeling of that point c-;
I think it was a lot better back during the great crusade when the primarchs and the emperor were around because you do see astartes like loken or tarvis having actual personalities and "lives".
Great vid :D Was surprised, that the life of a space- marine is that horrible. Suggestion: Horrible realities in the life of a soldier in the death korps of krieg.
Would LOVE to see a video on Legion Moritat (Space Marine Assassins) and Legion Destroyers who sometimes worked with the Moritat. 30k stuff - don't know if any of these exist in 40k, but I know the Night Lords were very into being Destroyers and it is a big part of their history.
Not all space marines grow up in a shit environment like death worlds and the like, Ultramarines can be raised to become Astartes from birth in a civilised place
I personally think primaris are NOT replacement, of their more seasoned, hardened, experienced brothers. They are a step further. Most people tend to forget that but normal space marines, despite their age CAN become Primaris, you can convert a normal Space Marine into a Primaris. Furthermore, the process to create a Primaris cost even more than creating a normal Astartes, and losing a Primaris is an even worse loss than a normal space marine. In that regard, I think that the process of becoming a Primaris will become for many chapters a way to strenghten their veterans. Instead of risking to waste a recruit with an even more hazardous process that is the Primaris changement, the transformation into a Primaris will be gifted to veterans, sometimes maybe as a sign of entering the chapter's first company. That way, the primaris that result from that is not only a stronger, faster, and tougher space marine. Compared to the first Primaris, it would create a hardened, battle forged Primaris that has already fought everything the galaxy has thrown at him. And now, the galaxy will have to try even harder if they ever want to even hope to destroy that new Space Marine.
They absolutely are a replacement though. GW made them so that people would ultimately have to buy new models, since they ones they already have aren't good enough.
Well. Good video. Bad points. When you started talking about recruitement.... well. NOPE Not at all. You are speaking as if all chapters were similar. First, that's false Second, lot of chapters have a home world that is not a feral world. Third, the kids are not choose for being psychotic killers . They are chosen for their strength, abilities, potential. For exemple, In the astral knights, you were chosen because of your nobility In the black Templars, for you FUCKING ZEAL, in the spaces Wolves, for your bravery, in the ultramarines, you can simply volunteer and you can be recruited if you manage to pass on the test. And by the way. The aspirant can be taken until the age of 30.
Everything you mention is an outlier. Yeah there are other factors that play into becoming a spacemarine but that's not what this video is about. And an aspirant who's already past puberty is just a bad call by a chaplain.
Valerius Wolf Dude, are you high??? Neophytes can be taken up until the age of early puberty, there's extensive mention of this in the Canonical literature, so where the fuck did you get 30 from? The whole point is young boys go through a natural growing spurt that makes for an even larger individual then what girls go through... So... They have a narrow window of opportunity to time their implantation process, ie, they Need to keep up with the boy's natural growth, it's meant to be one of the reasons only boys can survive the implantation process, I think, ie, it's so traumatic to the body that this small window of opportunity during the cusp of puberty is the only chance they get... Read the original Ragnar Blackmane novels and The Emperor's gifts for specific examples or any of the wiki pages for 40k. Jesus, where do you dumbarses get some of the bullshit you regurgitate? And to One Mind Syndicate, I'm sorry, did you get some kinda certificate in being some kind of a lore master nerd lord or something, cos you're doing a shithouse job... Whether it be the annoying, monotonous voice, the regular mispronunciation of words or the downright abominably ignorant misuse of some (deerrrp 'psychotic' isn't the adjective for a fucking psychopath, psychosis is a disconnection from reality, whereas psychopathy refers to the condition of being a psychopath). On this note, imbecile, you've literally shat all over the well established fiction that depicts the Astartes, and by the way, even though we don't know how exactly that word is pronounced, Hmmm... Basically, I'm just gonna put it out there that the way you say most things is probably a good indicator on how not to say something... Fuck me sideways.. Anyway... Have you actually read ANY of the God damned library of novels in order to misinterpret them so idiotically?.. Is where that accusation as going.. Seriously, your blinkered and childish interpretation miss soooo much of the incredibly rich story that you're implying you're well verses in, that I'm actually offended to the point of kicking up the necessary fuss of getting your entire shitty channel shut down for being full of shit and ruining entirely the fiction that so many people love. Look, it's great you love 40k, but maybe until they find a cure for not being a one of the less intelligent people on the autism spectrum and/or for having the world's most annoying voice right up there with 'Chills', keep that shit to yourself and thank the sweet Lord you don't actually work in radio or haven't thought to embarrass yourself on one of those shitty music idol shows. Fuck mate, wise up or fuck off for dignity's sake.
Holy Emperor dude.... Please calm down a little... I mean i too find the points mentioned in this particular video do not represent the lore of 40k correctly, but you really should change your attitude... Maybe it would be a good idea to step back from being just rude and unfriendly and rephrase your criticism in a way that it's more than just a raging insult to the guys working for this channel? Or go on and make your own videos about WH40k lore if you think that they are doing such a bad job. I am sure nobody would stop you from doing exactly that. And please... stop talking about dignity if you behave like that...
The whole Primaris thing caused me to stop buying and painting models... It is such a money grab. I just can't do it anymore. That along with the destruction of warhammer fantasy... I haven't purchased or painted a model for a while now... Anyways, great video man!
I love your content and so glad I discovered you months ago dont know why I'm just subbing...it is heresy of the highest order..the inquisition shall hear of this! Loli got into warhammer very young with Space Hulk for PS i believe and even more when i played the dawn of war series, thank you for the lore videos i need to get into the novels :)keep it up
When I was in high school the invisible children people came to our school as well, along with a girl our age from Uganda who they had saved. They were all on about writing your senator to take action and what not because no official military involvement was going on and this part of the world wasnt talking about it yet. I got the chance to go up and talk to her privately. I grabbed her hands and told her that my father was In the US army special forces and was correctly deployed to Uganda to hunt Joseph Kony. That we ARE there and things will get better. She just broke down in tears of joy and sorrow.I held her in my arms as she did. It was one of the most powerful moments of my life. Always remember. The Emperor Protects.
I want to write a short story with space marines, but I just can't wrap my head around how to write one. I have no idea what's it's like to be one, so I have no point of reference.
I feel like Warhammer went a little beyond believable in their effort to be dark and intense. Some parts are cool. Others are a little ridiculous. Beasts of No Nation is horribly depressing.
I’m not sure the astartes are aware of the imperial truth in 40k. It seems like it would be easier if they were as convinced of the emporers divinity as the average citizen.
Question: I have heard about that separate members of Magnus fleet. Fans speculate that this is orygin of Blood Ravens but I alsow heard that some of them form other brotherhood and still fight for the Emperor. What do You guys think about this concept?
Sorrow to those that have the will to break the demons edge, sorrow to those that will stand in a blaze, sorrow to those willing to look affliction in the eye and laugh before taking aim with cruel intent.
QUESTION : Hi and thanks for answering my question. This time nothing connected to 40k. Whats was the most complicated or contrived dish You've ever made? Mine was a pork-ribs pizza. Where first of all You needed to make a dough (that will grow for about 12hours), then prepare homely ribs, after they've done "peel" them (or strip them of that delicous meat), make the pizza souce [best check the Binging with Babish chanell on YT], assamble the base - rolled up dough, pizza souce, ribs -> off to 220C preheated oven for a few minutes, after it add rucola and cheese (lots of it), again off to oven for a few minutes. And then nomingtons... have a nice one, don't worry Your hard labor will be rewarded greatly ;)
There are plenty of historical examples of society’s resorting to seemingly horrific acts that are ultimately self defeating in the long run if not successful in the short imagine this on a galactic scale
Black Templar : So turns out I was immune to Chaos energy and next thing I know these buttholes had me put on trial , had my brain wiped of all memories and told me to write a 500 word letter of apology to the emperor . WHO IM PRETTY SURE SAID ITS COOL TO BE IMMUNE TO CHAOS ! any way catch you later man . Oh please just call me Titus (☞ ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)☞
**OMS**suggestion Hey Guys, Unless Games Workshop has changed the info about space marines..(I first played in the early 90s)..it is not uncommon for a marine to recall his past life, some chapters do strip the memories or block them but it didn't used to be universal across the board of all space marines
Hey, well done for talking about the real world issues of child soldiers. A dark subject to broach, but important to be aware and do whatever we can to tackle.
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"It sucks to be me." Said everyone in the 40k universe.
I mean they aren't wrong.
Except for the orks
Living and Dying for the Blood God is it’s own reward. Remember that.
Lamentors: "Hold my beer"
not for inhabitants of pleasure worlds or maybe agri-worlds
To be born on a feral world means being guaranteed a life devoid of peace and happiness? Pretty sure imperial citizens aren't happy or at peace either....
I think he's referring to even the most basal of human pleasures(water-food-shelter)
40k universe doesnt do happy
Nah sok mate, Aussies have plenty of public holidays. S'all good.
actually outside of pleasure worlds. Places like Ultramar aren't so bad..
think about it in terms of the real world.. There's a high chance you can be born into a developing country, into a poor family having to dig through mountains of garbage to survive.
That sounds dystopic, but that's the reality of atleast 1 billion people IRL..
Except if you live on a ultramarine world like maccrag.
Jesus Christ, no wonder people turn to Chaos
Chaos is a party compared to this.
Better to live and die for the Emperor and his Imperium than live as a rotting corpse!
Ikr? Brutal as hell
rikki kingston yet mere mortals have held the line against the warp abominations for thousands of years. Faith is a powerful tool and the Emperor... protects.
Not Alpharius They hold the line because Matt Ward wills it. Can't sell minifigs of a dead faction.
With all of the trials that aspirants have to go through, it's amazing that Space Marines even exist, much less exist in bulk.
they really dont exist in bulk when u think about it. theres quadrillion humans but only a million astartes.
I'm new to the warhammer 40k. All these stories are really intriguing.
The Salamanders, Ultramarines and Space Wolves would like to have a word. The Salamanders are expected to retain family ties and be pillars of their community when not on deployment. The Ultramarines become Politicians in their hometowns/homeworlds essentially when not deployed. The Space Wolves remember enough to know who they wanted to Bone.
And the blood angels were the first LGBTQ friendly chapter bc... well. Sanguinious was a member of the community.
The 40k universe can't even survive the 40k universe
I like the content, but bloody hell, the delivery...
These guys literally read word for word off the Wiki's. It's very lazy. They offer no interpretation or insights of their own.
Look up luetin09 thank me later, he has the best 40k content with a wonderful delivery that's not reading off a wiki page that sounds half slow.
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And arch Warhammer
@@PugMaxer ESPECIALLY Arch Warhammer. I could and often do listen to Arch for hours. His delivery and his insights are truly worthy of the Emperor's blessing.
agree
Wow there are no good endings in warhammer
I dunno, there's some worlds with comparable living standards to our own. The problem is they tend to be few and far between, and by dint of population sizes you're more likely to be crapped out onto a hive world. Enjoy your toxic dust storms and buggery by Genestealer cults!
Pappa Nurgle is always jubilant. He's basically the 40K Santa Claus, only his gifts tend to be Beubonic plague instead of toys
the only good ending in 40K is die in the name of the holy EMPEROR !!!!!!!!
Orks know whats good
In the far and distant future of warhammer 40k there is only war!
Star wars fan: I want to fly an X wing!
Star trek fan: I want to Captain the enterprise!
Warhammer fan: ummmmm
Warhammer 40k fan: "I just wanna live in peace"
Yes!!! Thank you!!!!
Suggestion: Horrible Realities of Chaos Space Marines
Victory!
Persistence pays off I guess
I guess all of it?
No problem more coming soon.
Yes, this! Loving the horrible realities series.
Guardsman are simular in some ways.
Still surprised that Space Marines don't recruit at some of the Guard Planets
I believe that the reason why Space Marines don't recruit from Imperial Guard planets is because if they did, then those planets wouldn't provide a tithe anymore. For example: If Space Marines started recruiting Catachans, then Catachan would no longer be raising regiments.
Note: I'm not a huge Warhammer40k fan, just a casual fan. If I'm wrong please correct me.
Why not tho? I mean, what would stop them from raising regiments just because a few exceptional guardsmen becomes astartes?
Emmm everything is explained in the vid also the bolter bitches don't recruit from PDF or Guards because women are to hard to indoctrinate as they are to old.
@J D: The Imperial Fists chapter of Space Marines are known to recruit from the hive world of Necromunda. The world also raises many regiments of Necromundan Guard.
@Matt the Ultramarines and some of their second generation orders recruits from the worlds of ultramar and their from the recuiting army camps.
It's an honour for the Familys of Ultramar if one of their childs Chosen to be a space marine.
Their are more ways to recruit new space marine aspirants for the space marine orders, i read 16 or more years GW books, white dwarfs and storys there's no word in it that this recruits has natural psychotic killerinstincts, the children are strong in body and in mind.
Sorry 4 my bad english, i hope you will understand what i wish to say.
I've become obsessed with the lore of warhammer thanks to this channel. Ive directed maybe 10+ people this way. Keep it up. You guys are doing the emperor's work.
Warhammer 40k: What if the future is like, super metal?
Its not metal. Its fucking titanium
I remember Kony 2012 was a thing in high school. Also congratulations on the guy who requested this. Almost as dedicated as my Malcador requests.
I'd imagine even the kids taken from warrior societies have had it pretty rough too. Look at Klingon kids, who though they live in a technologically and philosophically sophisticated society, are still put through the wringer to mold them into warriors. Same with training children of medieval knights, a full belly means you have the means to train that much harder.
Grats to the guy that suggested this
Bright Glory I keep requesting this so it’s possible
THEY participate in glorious combat for humanity! What are you, a traitor to your Emperor for creating such blessed creatures. (Slams exterminatus button!)
God Emperor of Mankind indeed hertic
*Avoids Exterminatus and gives you a huge galaxy sized MIDDLE FINGER of 'fuck you'.*
Random Typer002 if the emperor gave you the finger, you'd wish you'd been exterminatus'd. the psychic might of that Man is enormous, if the Emperor didn't want what was best for you, would he have sat in the torture chair, immobilized, constantly assaulted by the vile entities of the warp, which burned his best friend and 2nd most powerful psyker, into dust in only a few hours, for 10,000 years? And how do you repay him? you and your ungrateful followers go and make friends with foul xenos scum, or worse, daemons? You'd be lucky to receive exterminatus.
I meant to say was, if i was a travelling random nigh-omnipotent being and ends up visiting the 40k universe and i just witnessed what this universe is up to.
Plus i get caught in the crossfire and someone just slammed the exterminatus button, then my physical puppet body will be vaporized while i was busy watching everything from outside the galaxy.
So i gave the entire universe a middle finger and said, "Hope you burn and stay in hell forever, you sadistic religious zealot nutjobs."
Also another middle finger to the chaos gods.
(Sorry if my comment didn't make sense.)
You are aware that the "god emperor" humie lazor eyes only exists in the mind of the ORK? An ork believes there is an endless emperium ruled by a humie with lazerz for eyes, and thus it is so. The belief of orks is what powers such a violent and beautiful universe!
Suggestion: Horrible realities of Necrontyr civilians! (before them being turned into Necrons for anyone who is about to yell at me that there are no Necrontyr anymore)
Life was shitty. You died young from cancer and/or radiation poisoning. Then you get turned into a mindless drone. Overall an improvement
Bump +1 for this suggestion
Please do not ignore, that the term "Infantry" comes from the word "infant" and was in Europe of early modern history those regiments where poor and desperate families gave their children when they were not able to feet them or searched for compensation in case of the kid being killed in combat! So child-soldiers are a phenomenon that was common around the globe!
A fantastically correct lore video. Thank you for having the attention to detail to mention pretty much everything they do to break and remake these humans into space marines.
Suggestion: The Horrible Realities of a RUclipsr's Life.
"Beasts of no Nation" is a good movie. Highly recommended.
Jeffery Brown Not as good as the original Invisible Children documentary.
That movie sucked, it was full of stereotypes and I could hardly sympathize with the clichè characters.
No one had any unique personality or felt like a real person.
1:56 actually it's not as hard to breed savagery in children as you would think. Compassion and knowing right from wrong aren't things most children understand and add bad circumstances on it and you have monsters. There's a reason children soldiers are so effective. I forgot who said it but there was a quote akin to "the only problem with children soldiers is their size"
The reason to why I want to be an astarte, is because I WANT THAT DAMN HELMET!
Some chapters allow their marines to stay in contact with their families, though I'm not sure that's a good thing. It may only cause him more grief to bear witness to what all he has lost and will never retain. I for one would choose to forget it all completely, let no seed of doubt gain bearing in an already tormented soul.
Rock lee would be a space marine
@Vince Wilson the Chuck Norrises?
* *Looks behind his back to check if Chuck Norris will accept this use of his name
I wonder what kind of relationship the aspirants build between themselves? how do they view their masters? What kind of reaction do they get from seeing one of them fail or succeed?
Suggestion: Aspirant point of view of the recruitment process.
I have to tell you, I appreciate the supplemental real world information in this video. Well done.
6:52 wtf is that a pic of... Metal Lee? Or Maito Gai or Rock Lee?
😂😂 Yo that's Rock Lee
When Grimdark doesn't just veer into Grimderp but goes screaming into it at 10,000mph.
I'm sure this process or some variation occurs with chapters like the Carcharadons, Flesh Tearers or Marines Malevolent. But it would be hugely out of character for one's like the Ultramarines, Salamanders or even the Space Wolves.
One of the best videos i've seen on this channel! Great way of breaking it down!!!
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Archwarhammer-spacemarine life: just the basics of how to become one, 1 hour and 30 Minutes.
Well
point?
Again, details.
Arch is a prat.
The recruitment process for the space marine comes of as unnecessarily brutal and hard core.
Jakub Policht 40k is unnecessarily brutal and hardcore, just the way we like it 😀
Yeah, GW really turned it up to 11 in recent years. Remember when Space Marines just used to be normal dudes?
I don't really agree with saying "it's almost impossible to remember their past" from what we see from the book, a lot of marines talk about their childhood and it seems to come quite easy too them, do they care? Not really, they don't NEED to remember their past, but realistically they can
~ 10:20 and ~ 12:00 So do they worship Emperor as a god or no? Also, recruitment is different in every chapter just look at Salamanders, they still visit and take care of their families etc.
It differs from chapter to chapter. Some treat him as a mortal man whilst others embrace the idea of his Godhood.
No, most chapters do not. The Black Templars and the salamander are all examples that do but the majority know that he was just a really bas ass psyker. And yes we were going to go in deeper on all the different recruitment methods but that's not what the video was about. Check out our 40 facts on becoming a spacemarine to get that lore.
OneMindSyndicate Alot more than you think get to go back to there home's
I'm questioning whether or not Space Marines are actually needed.
The Imperial Guard have proven themselves capable of holding their own against the greatest threats the galaxy has to offer (cadia). You don't need gene seeds to use power armor, bolter weapons, plasma weapons, etc. (sisters of battle). Nor do you need gene seeds to accumulate centuries worth of combat experience (life extension drugs used by the nobility).
Why not give experienced Guard better weapons and armor (like the sisters) and life extension for effective officers/troops (like the nobility)?
Unlike Space Marines, or Sisters, these Guardsmen/Guardswomen would be under the direct authority of the Lords of Terra (no going against their orders).
They have children, spouses, etc. that would keep them attached/loyal to the Imperium (if they went rogue who would protect those people, keep them fed, provide them with medicine, etc.?).
They can be mixed to prevent tribal loyalties from overriding empire loyalties (ultramarines consider ultramar their home. if it came down to a choice between protecting ultramar and another part of the imperium there is a chance they choose ultramar. however if only a portion of ultramarines came from ultramar that chance is far less likely.)
They can be recruited from their best and brightest (issue mandatory military service for everyone in the Imperium. have them go through military training. this can be done at an early age. those showing a high ability to control themselves, coordinate/lead their squad, think under pressure, and come up with brilliant plans in bad situations are kept as recruits for these special squads and/or given officers status. the rest are kept as grunts or relived from duty. this also has the added ability of minimizing losses.)
They have less prone to violent outbursts which can lead to poor decision making (angry people do not make good decisions)
Because Guardsmen tend to win by throwing wave after wave of men at the enemy until the guns are clogged with the bodies of dead guardsmen.
Lords of Terra have been proven to be utterly incompetent in the past(War of the Beast) and giving them direct control is an easy way to see the Imperium plummet as the lords command armies to fight for their personal gain.
Guardsmen already have kids, they're called Whiteshields.
Imperium already has mandatory service, that's that the tithe is.
They are far more prone to a serious case of stupid, which only gets worse the more promotions they get.
Nope, sure you have a ton of guardsmen but when they come against orks and the like it is out number and outkill guards men 1 to 100 sure a guardsmen hold the line but only for so long, the better weaponry can only be operated by beings of stronger threshold, well guards man could be upgraded with battle much suits and such, then you have the immaterial world that infects men to turn them into cultists and demons
Kingneo Yea, no. Space Marines are also much more resistant to Chaos corruption, 100x times more loyal, smarter, stronger. Most of Space Marine weapons cannot be fired by normal humans because recoil would break bones, etc. In a world where creatures bigger than apartment blocks roam around wanting to kill you, you need genetically modified super soldiers. Also Imperial Guard has many times lost worlds or barely kept them until Space Marines were brought in to take control.
Kingneo because games workshop wants a reason to have a cool other army called "space marines." They'll make up whatever story they need to maintain its reason for existence.
Sisters of Battle are even less likely to turn to Chaos than Space Marines and they are regular people.
The loyalty of a Space Marine is due to their recruitment and training at an early age. That can be replicated. Matter of fact we can use the fact that they have family that Chaos/Xenos want to destroy as an additional reason for them to fight/not rebel (unlike Space Marines).
Sisters of Battle use Bolters and Power Armor. Not the same strength than what Space Marines are using, but far better than what the Guard are using now. That will drastically improve performance.
Apartment sized creatures are dealt with through Air Support and Titans. The weapons equipped on Imperial Ships and Titans are more than enough to deal with that.
Holy fuck this is dark.
Bonefetcher Brimley welcome to 40K
Oh, thanks Nicholas, I appreciate the welcome. *Fights to survive in hivecity and eats some hobos.*
I mean... it *IS* a grimdark
I my self was old enough to remember seeing the late two thousands thing "the invisible children project" but am just now where u were then in the late 2000's but in the 20, tens' I know the feeling of that point c-;
Really was a great video Gursh and I appreciate your thoughts at the end
I think it was a lot better back during the great crusade when the primarchs and the emperor were around because you do see astartes like loken or tarvis having actual personalities and "lives".
Great vid :D Was surprised, that the life of a space- marine is that horrible. Suggestion: Horrible realities in the life of a soldier in the death korps of krieg.
According to several of the novels Space Marines do remember their past only after centuries of warfare and strife do the memories fade.
Would LOVE to see a video on Legion Moritat (Space Marine Assassins) and Legion Destroyers who sometimes worked with the Moritat. 30k stuff - don't know if any of these exist in 40k, but I know the Night Lords were very into being Destroyers and it is a big part of their history.
Not all space marines grow up in a shit environment like death worlds and the like, Ultramarines can be raised to become Astartes from birth in a civilised place
Is the Imperial Truth still the belief of Space Marines? I thought they prayed several times a day and before going into battle?
And these guys are the good guys in the setting. Welcome to 40k.
If the good guys are this bad imagine the bad guy's
I personally think primaris are NOT replacement, of their more seasoned, hardened, experienced brothers. They are a step further. Most people tend to forget that but normal space marines, despite their age CAN become Primaris, you can convert a normal Space Marine into a Primaris.
Furthermore, the process to create a Primaris cost even more than creating a normal Astartes, and losing a Primaris is an even worse loss than a normal space marine. In that regard, I think that the process of becoming a Primaris will become for many chapters a way to strenghten their veterans.
Instead of risking to waste a recruit with an even more hazardous process that is the Primaris changement, the transformation into a Primaris will be gifted to veterans, sometimes maybe as a sign of entering the chapter's first company. That way, the primaris that result from that is not only a stronger, faster, and tougher space marine. Compared to the first Primaris, it would create a hardened, battle forged Primaris that has already fought everything the galaxy has thrown at him. And now, the galaxy will have to try even harder if they ever want to even hope to destroy that new Space Marine.
They absolutely are a replacement though. GW made them so that people would ultimately have to buy new models, since they ones they already have aren't good enough.
1:46 - Lol didnt expect Nivanh Chantharas Babiru kids art to be in the video.
Well now I know why space marines turn to chaos to be free from slavery
Well. Good video. Bad points.
When you started talking about recruitement.... well.
NOPE
Not at all. You are speaking as if all chapters were similar. First, that's false
Second, lot of chapters have a home world that is not a feral world.
Third, the kids are not choose for being psychotic killers . They are chosen for their strength, abilities, potential.
For exemple, In the astral knights, you were chosen because of your nobility
In the black Templars, for you FUCKING ZEAL, in the spaces Wolves, for your bravery, in the ultramarines, you can simply volunteer and you can be recruited if you manage to pass on the test.
And by the way. The aspirant can be taken until the age of 30.
Everything you mention is an outlier. Yeah there are other factors that play into becoming a spacemarine but that's not what this video is about. And an aspirant who's already past puberty is just a bad call by a chaplain.
OneMindSyndicate I'm only speaking about the recruitement in your video about spaces marines life's.
Don't take it badly. I just wanted to help you^^
how can the ultramarines qualify as an outlier ? did their successor chapter not follow similar recrutement patterns ?
Valerius Wolf
Dude, are you high??? Neophytes can be taken up until the age of early puberty, there's extensive mention of this in the Canonical literature, so where the fuck did you get 30 from? The whole point is young boys go through a natural growing spurt that makes for an even larger individual then what girls go through... So... They have a narrow window of opportunity to time their implantation process, ie, they Need to keep up with the boy's natural growth, it's meant to be one of the reasons only boys can survive the implantation process, I think, ie, it's so traumatic to the body that this small window of opportunity during the cusp of puberty is the only chance they get...
Read the original Ragnar Blackmane novels and The Emperor's gifts for specific examples or any of the wiki pages for 40k.
Jesus, where do you dumbarses get some of the bullshit you regurgitate?
And to One Mind Syndicate, I'm sorry, did you get some kinda certificate in being some kind of a lore master nerd lord or something, cos you're doing a shithouse job...
Whether it be the annoying, monotonous voice, the regular mispronunciation of words or the downright abominably ignorant misuse of some (deerrrp 'psychotic' isn't the adjective for a fucking psychopath, psychosis is a disconnection from reality, whereas psychopathy refers to the condition of being a psychopath).
On this note, imbecile, you've literally shat all over the well established fiction that depicts the Astartes, and by the way, even though we don't know how exactly that word is pronounced, Hmmm... Basically, I'm just gonna put it out there that the way you say most things is probably a good indicator on how not to say something... Fuck me sideways.. Anyway... Have you actually read ANY of the God damned library of novels in order to misinterpret them so idiotically?.. Is where that accusation as going..
Seriously, your blinkered and childish interpretation miss soooo much of the incredibly rich story that you're implying you're well verses in, that I'm actually offended to the point of kicking up the necessary fuss of getting your entire shitty channel shut down for being full of shit and ruining entirely the fiction that so many people love.
Look, it's great you love 40k, but maybe until they find a cure for not being a one of the less intelligent people on the autism spectrum and/or for having the world's most annoying voice right up there with 'Chills', keep that shit to yourself and thank the sweet Lord you don't actually work in radio or haven't thought to embarrass yourself on one of those shitty music idol shows.
Fuck mate, wise up or fuck off for dignity's sake.
Holy Emperor dude.... Please calm down a little...
I mean i too find the points mentioned in this particular video do not represent the lore of 40k correctly, but you really should change your attitude...
Maybe it would be a good idea to step back from being just rude and unfriendly and rephrase your criticism in a way that it's more than just a raging insult to the guys working for this channel?
Or go on and make your own videos about WH40k lore if you think that they are doing such a bad job. I am sure nobody would stop you from doing exactly that.
And please... stop talking about dignity if you behave like that...
The whole Primaris thing caused me to stop buying and painting models... It is such a money grab. I just can't do it anymore. That along with the destruction of warhammer fantasy... I haven't purchased or painted a model for a while now... Anyways, great video man!
Ya introducing a “new” space marine so u have to replace ur whole army 😂 fuk that
I like that none if these horrible things apply to the Ultrasmurfs, its a calling to them and the discards just join the auxiliaries.
I love your content and so glad I discovered you months ago dont know why I'm just subbing...it is heresy of the highest order..the inquisition shall hear of this! Loli got into warhammer very young with Space Hulk for PS i believe and even more when i played the dawn of war series, thank you for the lore videos i need to get into the novels :)keep it up
When I was in high school the invisible children people came to our school as well, along with a girl our age from Uganda who they had saved. They were all on about writing your senator to take action and what not because no official military involvement was going on and this part of the world wasnt talking about it yet. I got the chance to go up and talk to her privately. I grabbed her hands and told her that my father was In the US army special forces and was correctly deployed to Uganda to hunt Joseph Kony. That we ARE there and things will get better. She just broke down in tears of joy and sorrow.I held her in my arms as she did. It was one of the most powerful moments of my life. Always remember. The Emperor Protects.
the brutality of 40k holy shit bud, you are hella doing a good job getting me into this
I've seen comments criticizing your voice. I like it.
I want to write a short story with space marines, but I just can't wrap my head around how to write one. I have no idea what's it's like to be one, so I have no point of reference.
Suggestion: Horrible realities of the kroot who ate the Emperor
What?
That would make a great kids book! The Kroot who ate the Emperor!
11:36 is it just me or does that imperial guard look like Thor when his hair is cut? XD
I feel like Warhammer went a little beyond believable in their effort to be dark and intense. Some parts are cool. Others are a little ridiculous. Beasts of No Nation is horribly depressing.
I’m not sure the astartes are aware of the imperial truth in 40k. It seems like it would be easier if they were as convinced of the emporers divinity as the average citizen.
Suggestions: How being in each faction would be better than real life. Tau Empire, Chaos, Orks, etc
Suggestion: The Relictors and why they are loyal to the Emperor using Daemon Artifacts against Chaos.
best way to live in 40k universe - don't.
that awkward moment when your friend asks who are the good guys in 40k...
Question:
I have heard about that separate members of Magnus fleet.
Fans speculate that this is orygin of Blood Ravens but I alsow heard that some of them form other brotherhood and still fight for the Emperor.
What do You guys think about this concept?
Sorrow to those that have the will to break the demons edge, sorrow to those that will stand in a blaze, sorrow to those willing to look affliction in the eye and laugh before taking aim with cruel intent.
I hope relic consulting your assistance for the next Dow game !!!
Thanks great vid ! :)
Well done video OMS.
thanks
come join the Adepta Sororitas, we have cake
And puss. Lots of puss. Nothing _but_ puss, actually.
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That you can never, ever touch.
@@JamesPolymer Actually you can...
Sometimes...
Maybe...
I really like the point that you had of the primaris Marines.
A space marine is basically someone that wants to be a Spartan that comes from the world of Fallout, and watches way to much Rick abd Morty
Except that it was written decades before any of those texts existed.
Suggestion: what would happen in a life after war? Not of how it may happen but what happens to the imperium in a void of war.
QUESTION : Hi and thanks for answering my question. This time nothing connected to 40k. Whats was the most complicated or contrived dish You've ever made?
Mine was a pork-ribs pizza. Where first of all You needed to make a dough (that will grow for about 12hours), then prepare homely ribs,
after they've done "peel" them (or strip them of that delicous meat), make the pizza souce [best check the Binging with Babish chanell on YT],
assamble the base - rolled up dough, pizza souce, ribs -> off to 220C preheated oven for a few minutes, after it add rucola and cheese (lots of it), again off to oven for a few minutes.
And then nomingtons... have a nice one, don't worry Your hard labor will be rewarded greatly ;)
Can we get some sources for those images? They're frakking awesome!
Is the thumbnail a space marine taking bullets in the forehead!?
No those are implanted studs to denote # centuries of service, silver is 100 years gold is like a thousand or some such
Suggestion: Horrible Realities of an Eldar Aspect Warrior
There are plenty of historical examples of society’s resorting to seemingly horrific acts that are ultimately self defeating in the long run if not successful in the short imagine this on a galactic scale
The 40K universe would be better off just ending.
Black Templar : So turns out I was immune to Chaos energy and next thing I know these buttholes had me put on trial , had my brain wiped of all memories and told me to write a 500 word letter of apology to the emperor . WHO IM PRETTY SURE SAID ITS COOL TO BE IMMUNE TO CHAOS ! any way catch you later man . Oh please just call me Titus (☞ ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)☞
**OMS**suggestion
Hey Guys,
Unless Games Workshop has changed the info about space marines..(I first played in the early 90s)..it is not uncommon for a marine to recall his past life, some chapters do strip the memories or block them but it didn't used to be universal across the board of all space marines
Every single reason qiven is exactly why they are venerated by every loyal imperial.
The tau must have it good
Suggestion: Horrible realitys of the Eldar
The more I hear about what "The Emperor" created, the more I realize he is a demon who created hell on Earth
The process took this long ... Last time I remember it only took minutes / secs ...
Good video...and great message toward the end 👍🏼
The Wh40k space marine game is what got me into warhammer besides the influence from my father
Suggestion: 40 Facts about Abhuman Palagers.
No lie, by the fifth time you said "these children" I was like "for fucks sake I get it"
Horrible realities of a Space Marine: Primaris are replacing normal astartes.
I fucking hate the Primaris.
@13:00 that's how they should always portray space marines, with bandoleers for ammo and nades
Unless you're recruited from McCragge. All Smurfs basically start off as ROTC brats.
Suggestion: The galaxy of 40k and the various "landmarks" and nature of each Segmentum, it is so big it can seem like a big amorphous unmappable blob
Lmfao they put Rock Lee in the pic collage 6:50 😂😂😂😂😂
Suggestion: Lost Son worlds. The worlds that have not been brought into compliance.
Hey, well done for talking about the real world issues of child soldiers. A dark subject to broach, but important to be aware and do whatever we can to tackle.
Only the Primaris Marines have shiny armour. The Space Marines have had their armour tested in combat. Experience trumps, gene-seed.
Leave the Corpse Emperor and your dying Imperium behind! Walk the Red Path of Khorne and live through endless glory!
Or the neverending orgies and rock ballads of Slaanesh. Either one is fine.
Welp, if I could choose to be someone in the 40k universe I would choose the Tyranids. A life of eating is better than this.
I would choose orks, tyranids have no free will and orks are pretty much always happy