What Gun and Ammo I Carry and How Gunfights are WON
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- Опубликовано: 2 окт 2024
- I get asked the question quite a bit of what ammo is "the best" in different calibers/barrel lengths etc, but often I am asked "What gun do you carry, and what loads?". In this video I will address this question, but I will also share a story from a 2010 article from Guns & Ammo where a study was done on what really happens in a gunfight (and who are the winners typically). Always appreciative of any channel help :) www.patreon.co...
At 22:35 I meant to say "In this .357" instead of "In this .327".
great video i think the guy that knows his gun and ammo and knows his enviroment and they are ready first but calm is going to win when you get worked up you make mistakes ive learned carrying a gun be mellow and relaxed because you never know when things gonna happen being alert and aware is best way to stay alive
Knew what you meant.
I have really never paid much attention to the 327 . I see now that I was mistaken ! Good presentation thanks
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I was stupid lost the login password. I would appreciate any help you can offer me!
@Cruz Westin Instablaster ;)
No matter what we carry, our mindset is most important. The willingness to fight back, and fight back viciously, without hesitation is vital. Still, the best way to win is to avoid fights at all costs.
That's exactly why I carry a 24 Oz framing hammer in addition to my 45 auto. You haven't seen vicious until you bury the claws of an Estwing hammer into your assailants forehead, handle deep. They all know you mean business. And I agree - no hesitation. As soon as you're pretty sure that they are there to do you harm, you don't say a word. BAM! Hammer to the forehead.
Agreed wholeheartedly. I used to be bad to fistfight and carry on in other stupid ways (drinking too much/too often/in the wrong places, pool hustling, general ne’erdowell stuff), but haven’t in like 15 years and sure hope I never have to again. There’s almost ALWAYS a way to avoid a fight. Most people don’t really want one and won’t take much convincing to just let you leave and forget it. You never know who you’re messing with. You might get shot, beaten to death, or get your guts cut out. There’s also no reason to make the world an even shittier place by making trouble that’s not necessary.
@@brianwilson4861 you've seen "The Punisher" 1 too many times.
@@brianwilson4861 lol, even if you delete it now, that post is going to bite you in the ass so hard if you ever end up in court over self defense. You can pretty much guarantee yourself a one way ticket to state prison when a jury sees that.
L.E. White: I know, right?
I am 70 years old,old school guy.It good to see a young guy talk so senceable.I carry a smith and wesson model 15 and a webley mk 4 in 38sw.I think the man behind the gun and shot placement is the most important! Than you really enjoyed the video.
Thanks for watching! My parents are both 70.
@@GunSam I'm almost 70 and don't feel old !!! Have many revolvers in all calibers and would feel very secure with a 6 or 8 shot revolver.
Back in 78 I was issued a Webley Mkiv in 38 SW when I was an armored truck driver in South Africa. Nothing fancy about the gun, but it functioned fine, even after WWII use and abuse.
All three of my gunfights were w/my issued revolver. Two were at night, before night sights and VERY fast so I had no time to look at my sights. The last one was in the lobby of a hotel and I took three aimed shots at a hostage taker from just over arm’s length distance. I guess I was the winner b/c I’ve been retired since 1997 and am enjoying my grandkids. I also pocket carry a stock 340PD (no laser sights) w/my LCP filling in as my needs dictate.
Thanks for the story of your experience!
👏🏻👍🏻
@@GunSam I have health issues, back & hip, that drive my EDC habits too Sam. Pocket carry is my best option w/the lightest gun available making the $900 I paid for the 340PD well worth it. Shoulder holsters are a PIA, belt carry is painful & ankle holsters make my gun almost unaccessible b/c I hobble along on a cane.
dont you think revolvers are obsolete?
@@jmgonzales7701 absolutely not
I had no idea you had that realistic self defender side.... This is the most down-to-earth, smart, well thought, no-nonsense approach to self defense I've seen among the hundreds of super tactical/appendix carry/red dot/hybrid holster/super hi-capacity auto-loaders on ++++P ammo.... *EXCELLENT* 👍👍👍👍👍👍
Thanks!
I read in a gun magazine years ago that back in the 1980s during the good old revolver days the NYPD got a new firearms trainer.. he did two things.. he increased the amount of time the officers trained at the range... And he taught them a method of point shooting for closer ranges using just the FRONT SIGHT... Using the front sight was much more accurate than simply point shooting using no sites.. the NYPD went on to produce a fantastic record on rarely ever losing a gunfight with the bad guys
Tell Ruger to make a 3" LCR in 327 and I'll be first in line.
Hope you can find ammo
I'd be happy with a 6 shot .38+p
@@babyblue8214 Buy a Kimber K6s in 357 feed it 38+p and never look back brother
I'm thinking about the Taurus 856 Defender myself.
Ruger makes a 3 inch 327 Federal magnum in the SP101 model
Great video Sam,I'm a retired NYC Correction Officer,situational awareness is everything. I can spot trouble from a mile away. Always look at a perps hands also. I carry a Glock 48 in winter and a ruger sp101 in the summer.
Thank you.
punks will often try to distract you. what time is it etc. never look away. try to maintain distance. if you cant why not? look for the knife or sucker punch. if your too close you will never see it coming.
NYC is going to the Toilet! As long as they vote for Democrats, just like Chicago, it’s done. 2021 election will make a huge difference. Get it right this time NYC!
Good and very true sir
Dave Spaulding has written several studies on shootings with police. His work is informative and more than well done. Very good source. I attended a lecture he was part of about 20 years ago, learned a lot.
Always informative and thought provoking. I'm a Revolver convert.
Be safe, be well.
S4T
Thanks for watching!
Fellow younger (relative...) revolver enthusiast here.. I especially appreciate the duty size barrel ammo tests and I prefer the 3 and 4 inch K-frame and like sized guns. I sometimes have to carry one on a revolver only security post and actually enjoy doing so. Boggles all the tacticool kids on the range I can shoot better scores and reload faster than some of them can with autos when using my Model 64.
My sister has a 64, shot it a few times. Really a plain jane but perfect revolver.
Gave my daughter my model 64. She can keep all six in a three inch group at 30 feet double action rapid fire. Of course, she learned from her veteran Dad!!
"STOP! I'm a CONCEALED CARRIER!" I don't think so. Just plain STOP or GET BACK. Most bad guys would laugh at the concealed carrier part and think they were dealing with a victim who was a mark for themselves. Besides, it wastes precious time. BTW, I used to read Dave Spaulding back in my L.E. days. He has some very good tactical videos on RUclips from when he was working for Ruger.
Thanks for chiming in!
I seem to recall there was an law-abiding citizen who drew his gun while trying to evacuate people from the El Paso Wal-Mart. I'm not sure if he announced his conceal and carry status to any of the patrons around him, but probably not a bad idea in that circumstance. Maybe? Announcing said status to an approaching assailant? Nope.
The reason I believe the 9mm penetrated further is because the wood was braced flat against the water jugs. Energy was used to slide and move the wood for the following 2 shots. It's like when Foreman's trainer held the Heavybag still for him the energy of his punch put holes in the bag, but when no one was holding it, it would swing around the room or up to the ceiling instead of deforming.
Hi Sam, I have a theory about the reason why revolver shooters were the ones that saw their sights: a semiauto is al L shaped box and typically points low or level, due to grip angle, also, on many the trigger is shorter and takes less time to pull. The front sights has to be brought up or is already level and you have a short pull and less time to see it, also, the shape of the gun doesn't help finding it. A revolver comes up front sight first, because of grip angle, so you see it over the gun and bring it down, also, the gun is shaped like a hand pointing a finger, with a very discenrible barrel that you can index. The trigger is long and gives you a fraction of a second more to see those sights.
Youve explained what i always somehow knew. Thats it!
A thought about the discrepancy between Indiana's observation and the FBI'S. Extreme close range favors the attacker. Officers are more likely to be checking an ID or attempting a handcuffing.
I had an NCO in the Army who had been in quite a few gunfights. He threw out all the standard training crap and taught us how to shoot instinctively and reactively. Most of our shooting was done with the firearm (Beretta 92s) held close to the body or from retention positions without using sights. It translated well to my LEO career
One of the best defensive shooters in law enforcement was Jacob "Jelly" Bryce from Oklahoma. He practiced sufficiently that in close range (in the same room or similar distance) he could hit center of mass on a person without using any sights. He attributed his being alive to that skill on several occasions.
Glad to see your EDC of choice, my LCR in .38 is mine, easy to carry, no jams.
Really enjoyed this video. I like how you follow up your info and show practical shooting other regular people might be able to do.
Good choice Sam, same gun for edc for me.
Thanks.
I hope Ruger will have these available again.
Dang-might have to take a second (and LONGER) look at the .327! Good video. Been armed for 40+ years and coming back around to SOME revolvers.
Sometimes i carry my j frame in a pocket holster like you, a Desantis nemesis. I only do it when I have big pockets, but to avoid pulling the holster out, I press the gun slightly against my leg as I draw. This creates the friction necessary forthe tackiness of the holster to do the job It was designed for. This also works for jackets with big front pockets.
Man, you EXPLAINED HANDGUN BALLISICS! Size of case means different pressures, and weight of bullet means different velocities, yielding delivered power! So a smaller and lighter bullet can hit as hard as a larger one, with better expansion! I already pocket carry a .32 H&R Magnum 3" snubby, but lately I have been thinking I need a Ruger 57 for the velocity and shootabillity/lack of overpenetration. But hey, the .327 Federal ALREADY delivers that in a much smaller package, and more reliably too! By the way, you mentioned the confusion that three-dot sights can produce: I paint a "white outline sight" over all of my rear dots (with typewriter correction fluid!) and paint the whole front sight tip florescent orange---just drop the ball into the cup, and it is fast and plain instinctive, not requiring any fine focus. Thanks for a very useful vid!..............................elsullo
I've always enjoyed 3 dot sites BUT I could see getting em mixed up. My preferred sight system is the Idot from ameriglo, just place one dot on top of other
Just like I teach my Jujutsu students, situational awareness is the first layer of a prepared self-defense.
Situational Awareness,
Mindset,
Familiar Equipment,
Practice,
Practice,
Practice.
Good one Sam this no BS video is why I subscribed to your channel. Inch obliged for sharing your knowledge.
Love your videos. I have my "students" watch your videos to reinforce what I'm trying to teach them. Interesting that you and I both lean towards a small revolver for EDC. Well, I also carry an Officer's 1911 at the same time, and train with both. But your "philosophy" on muscle memory training is similar to mine; I tell them "you will fight the way you train". It's pretty much like any other Martial Art, because face it, it is a Martial Art. Anyway, thanks for taking the time to put these videos up. We really appreciate it. Now, if I can just find me an LCR in .327...
Is the Ruger LCR in .327 still in production?
Wow, I love this presentation! Well done! And now I want a pocket carry .327 now.
Thanks!
@Gun Sam _Revolver Aficionado_ Makes me regret getting the lcr 22lr I just got lol shoot!
Great video and channel. Bravo. I’ve carried a 642 for years but have been interested in the 327 recently. Looks like they will be sold out for the foreseeable future now thanks to this video. Damn lol
Thank you.
Buffalo Bore has plenty of it in stock.
I have a snubby 6 shot 32 S&W long..very accurate but it's not a .327 mag.. still hunting one..
I have started carrying my 6 shot S&W Long S&W 31-1 2", had been carrying my Glock 42 most of the time.
Bill Jordan's book No Second Place Winner still is relevant over 50 years from initial publication. Some material ( particularly on auto loading pistols ) are dated. The fundamentals of combat are spot on. If any man has earned the medal of freedom ( should be renamed The medal FOR freedom ) , it's Massed Ayoob. Very few have freely ( not always for free ) shared their experience and knowledge to those determined to keep the peace or defend against the violent .
When I hear you say how good 38 & 327 snubs are , I agree on almost all points . I always think you are talking about 44 Special , for all the same reasons . For deep cover I would carry a Charter Arms 44 Sp. 5 shot . I would like , the same gun in 38 >> Stainless , shrouded hammer with a nub .
4 minutes of information spread over 26 minutes. Focusing so much attention on powder and cases and barrels for selfdefense is such a waste of time compared to training with handguns and getting your head right for a street fight in your car or home. I like a 357 Sig with 65 grain ammo running at 2100 fps for super low recoil and massive energy myself, but the important thing is the training by far. I like this guy doing his comparison videos but this video was not his best work.
327 Federal Magnum is the best cartridge for any short barrel revolver. Everybody I know wants one but manufacturers aren’t building them fast enough to keep up with demand.
Because historically the demand doesn't exist. Ruger started it off, S&W, Taurus, and Charter Arms all followed suit but just like .32 H&R Magnum people were not interested. All the revolver guys were all saying ".357 is more powerful! Why bother?" ignoring that .327 was purpose built for short barrels. And while it's capable of going toe to toe with .357 in longer barrels there is no debate the .357 has more potential there. Then some people tested it out and said it didn't live up to expectations and etc.
So, the guns just sat there on the shelves and never went anywhere. The Charter Arms guns had such bad QC at the time that some guns were blowing up and etc. So this gave the cartridge a bad rep as a hand grenade waiting to happen. SP101's are known sometimes to not have chambers properly reamed from the factory and thus cases get stuck when trying to eject. And this also hurts it's reputation. Lastly... ammunition. You're stuck with Federal, reloading your own, or buying some small time reloading operations ammo.
I love the cartridge and the guns but I can see why it hasn't taken off that much yet. If more companies would start making ammo for it but until that happens it won't really take off.
@@Predalien195 Agreed there is not enough manufacturer support. People want Guns chambered in 327 Fed Mag and there just is not enough support.
Experience has taught me the keys to doing consistent physical damage to the upper torso of a human being 9 mm compact high capacity with deep penetrating bullets that are well placed.
Other than that cross your fingers🙏
The thing you mentioned about having a high vis front sight with blacked out rear sight is the very reason I choose to have a black rear sight and green front sight. Right now I have a green fiberoptic front sight on my XD-S and I may change it in the future to a night sight but I will always have a blacked out rear sight. I found that even during training I was having trouble focusing on the front sight when I was using 3 dot sights and I tried a friend's gun that only had a green dot on the front sight and I shot drastically better. And I found for me my eyes pick up green much better than red.
Absolutely agree Sam,
My primary is a pocket carry LCR .38 special +P and backup with a LCP .380.
Like you, I use the same grip and am confident I can hit my targets from defensive distances.
I enjoyed the video greatly, I have been a instinct shooter many years and highly recommend and encouraging it , like you I prefer pocket carrying , i make own holsters to fit my needs , thinking the other day about pocket holsters and in this video I noticed your holster coming out hitting the ground, that's not good ,I will make mine to not show the outline on pants and extend out of pocket to the belt with loops on top for belt to go through and cure that problem , plus the holster will be square to look like a cell phone in a case in my pocket and most of the time I leave my shirt tails out any way and that will hide the part of the holster from the top of pocket to the belt , and a great portion of the front pocket , as anyone can see with my papa belly it's near impossible to keep my shirt tails in any way , in my 62 years of life I never have been asked by law enforcement officers to pull up my shirt, nanna and papa wishing you well,
If I could have a choice of one revolver I'd go for the Taurus 942 22lr ultralight
I concur
I carry either a 357 mag taurus 66 4 inch barrel with 158 SJHP from magtech or a glock 17 with 115 +p+ bonded from magtech, my duty gun is a Taurus pt 100 loaded with 155 Bonded by magtech, in Brasil we mainly have only magtech ammo for "choice"....
The .327 Federal Magnum is an often overlooked caliber. It's perfect for a snub nose.
What state are you in?
Great vids, Thank you 🙏!
Your an excellent shot and quite the motivation where I'd like be. Thanks for your videos!
Great point: one grip only on auto-pilot for people who carry both revolvers and auto-loaders...
I love 327. I had an SP101 but need to switch to LCR. I agree that is the gun to use. I remember the Gold Dot had some kick in the sp101. How does it feel in the smaller lighter LCR? I imagine the tamer grip helps.
Honestly I don't remember much for recoil with the Gold Dot. I would say, if you shoot a really hot .38+P in a S&W airlite, this is about what the Gold Dot .327 is like in the LCR. No matter how you describe it, it's way less than .357 Magnum recoil.
Why do you want to switch from the sp101? Just for size/weight reasons?
@@Rossski Exactly that. Size. The SP101 didn’t have the right grip for my concealment needs (they were all pretty chunky). Only the LCR has that tamer grip. And it’s a smaller gun overall.
Miami Dale shoot out shows theFBI isn’t hitting at 18%. And somehow they thought a majic bull it would help.
I agree with your way of thinking on conceal carry,but I have a difeent way of thinking concerning choice of caliber and D-fence technique,I must admit.
Repetition of the movement never mind pistol or revolver,is groundstone.
Choosing two hand in front of one hand practice is more plesent,but under high stress short distance ( most threatening situations ) one hand - frond sight in center mass- strongest caliber and ammo which you can control is my choice.
It would be 9m +P ( 125grs Sierra Power Jacket or 124grs Gold Dot which goes 380m/s ) in pistol and 357 Magnum in revolver ( 158grs Hydra Shok 366m/s ).
Shooting not lightning fast but I rather hit precise and slower then miss or hit out of vital zone fast.
Rather hit with heavyer,energy stronger,bone braking,muscle crashing vital organ destroying bullet like 158grs Hydra Shock once or twice then that I must shoot on same target 4-5 times because there IS a big diference in terminal efficiency,I believe you agree with me.
Up to 3 meters,I practice shooting one hand to the head pistol/revolver,all the same.
From 3-5 meters I shoot one hand and two hand one in the center chest and one to the head.
After 5 meters,I use two hand and chest head is basic.
Hit the boiler room and electricity,and it goes down.
I ( unfortunate ) have seen people shot,with diferent kinds of weapons and ammo and I must say ..it s nothing like Hollywood movies or presumptions based on shooting balistic gel test.
Its ... diferent.
People dont fall fast,they move,they punch,they swing with axe,they shoot for some time .
In this situations, seconds lat hours....and you wish to be somewhere else on the planet,not here.
Presumption is mother of all fuckups.
Practice realistic,shoot maybe little slower but hit every time,hit vitals,hit with strongest ammo you can control and before everything .. move and hide.
Be hard target to oponent.
Use objects,hard objects around your self ( if there is any ) to hide and then continue the fight.
Less chance to be hit.
I wish that Ruger could take moon clips
Free recoil energy generated by the Ruger LCR (per genitron.com):
• .327 Federal Magnum with a 100-gr bullet at a muzzle velocity of 1,299 ft/s for 375 ft•lb of kinetic energy at the muzzle - 10.09 ft•lb of free recoil energy;
• .38 Special +P with a 125-gr bullet at a muzzle velocity of 853 ft/s for 202 ft•lb of kinetic energy at the muzzle - 7.17 ft•lb of free recoil energy; and,
• 9 Luger with 124-gr bullet at a muzzle velocity of 1,020 ft/s for 287 ft•lb of kinetic energy at the muzzle - 6.55 ft•lb of free recoil energy.
Relative felt recoils will be directly proportional to the above calculated free recoils, because the three calibers are being fired from the same revolver frame.
327 Fed LCR is my EDC and I pocket carry daily. It's easy to carry and has plenty of power (with 6 rds on board vs a 5 shot J frame). Even if I carry a bigger gun, I still have the LCR for a backup (or primary if needed).
The down side used to be that 327 Federal ammo was expensive and hard to find. With the current ammo situation, I'm still able to find 327 on the shelves at my local gun stores. Prices remain in the $30/50 range ammo and $24/20 defense ammo. The last 9mm, 38 spl, or 357 mag I found were running $30+/50 for range ammo and $40+/20 for defense ammo. I haven't seen any 9, 38, or 357 on the shelves for quite some time.
The added benefit is that you can also use 32 S&W, 32 Long, 32 H&R Mag if needed. I have also fired 32 ACP in mine, it is not recommended but possible.
Finding one of these now is next to impossible. When I bought mine pre Chinese virus it took me 6 months to find one. I havent seen one available since the pandemic started.
GREAT video Sam AND explaining is easy terms to understand for the 'non-gunsmiths' with the ammo dynamics. 'Thank You' so much!
No complaint from me in what you carry with whatever ammo. It's whatever works for you.
Ruger LCR is a up and coming weapon no doubt about it! Neva shot the 327 round the ballistics are impressive. What a old timer taught me is train your hand to follow your eye. For me a instinctive shot works. I try to train about 30% in not using sights but let my hand point to my eyes destination. I am not Clint Eastwood but works for me. I think the point in self defense is a hard hitting round not blowing a hole threw him. I think that's why a 158g in 38 special was carried so much. A big slug hitting so hard rather than a clean fast little projectile going plumb through the man so fast. Same as with the 45acp the shock factor upon hitting its destination.
I read an article about 100 bad guys who survived being shot by either a 327, a 38 or a 9mm and not a single bad guy had a preference as to which caliber they preferred. They said they hated them all.
'most revolvers have red ramps' ???? really ?? 'most' or a few??? NONE of mine do
That's weird.
The issue with the twenty to ten foot range is situational awareness. Anyone scoping out victims will pass on someone who appears vigilant and aware of their surroundings. Police officers, just like soldiers and marines on patrol, become complacent because their lived experiences are that of having lived in a dangerous environment. No matter how hard one tries, he will become complacent. In my world of walking patrols in bad guy country, down range, I. Mosul, Iraq, I had to stay on my soldiers every day to remain alert and pay attention to what was going on. At first, everyone in my rifle squad was alert and focused. After our first three running gun battles and several minor gunfights, the guys began walking around like they were back on the block, day dreaming about whatever they were thinking about. After 13 months, the day of our last patrol, I allowed myself to become separated by about 100 yards of open ground from my soldiers. Some assfaced sniper took a shot at me. The bullet struck low to where I was standing, hitting a piece of corrugated steel and punched a whole in it while the bullet continued it's way to stop off to my front. I picked up the bullet (which burnt my fingers through my nomex gloves and I had to pour water on it to cool it down enough to put it in my pocket. I still have it. A reminder to stay alert
Always enjoy your level-headed and logical approach to shooting in general.
So many folks just push forward their personal preferences as fact and refuse to consider anything other than what THEY do.
It just isn't possible to have the strongest round, the most rounds, the most accurate, the most accurate for YOU, the best to carry, and on and on, all rolled-up into one firearm. So, we have to make compromises and keep our minds open to things that may differ from what our family, friends, heroes, etc., do.
Me - I like heavy metal objects, I like tradition, beauty, and function. Unsurprisingly to my wife and friends, my favorites in my collection are my revolvers, 1911, Browning 12ga and Henry Golden Boy w/ real and actual wood.
Glad to see some love for the .327 Fed Mag. Great round, with the added bonus of being able to practice with .32 H&R Mag or .32 SW Long.
Great video. I enjoyed it and appreciate the thorough information. Thanks for sharing your knowledge.
I wanted to ask what you think of the Kimber K6s? I got one a few months ago and I really like it.
I've looked at some used K6S revolvers. 700 bucks. Can't swing it right now.
Thanks, I do not have any personal experience with one so I really can't comment.
With that grouping you will be ok for sure , great shooting
A hit with a .22 is better than a miss with a .45! But yesterday I shot some low recoil .45 auto 160 gr at just 900 FPS that shot as good at this .327.
I carry my CZ 52 using 85gr Privi JHP.
they are thin and deadly. was thinking that a 7.62x25 rimmed might make a good revolver round. i wonder how it would compare with 327 federal?
I love my g43, but in my limited experience the smaller the better. If ammo is ever available again I’ll probably grab an lcr with a simple MIC trigger guard holster and just start throwing it in my pocket. Iwb, owb etc is a pain.
Going on 80 years old been training that way for years lots of the so-called experts laugh their asses off. I asked them if they can do it, all of a sudden there's not much laughing... 'Nuff said!!!...
I agree with your carry choice !
Awesome Sam《☆》The LCR 327 is a win/win getting an extra round & 365 ft/lbs. Availability of the ammo might be another story🌴◇:*:◇🌴Greetings from⛾Florida🤳my friend😎🎱☮🔊✌👍
Thanks. Buffalo Bore has .327 available all the time.
@@GunSam 《☆》Cool I'll be keeping my eyes open for an LCR🙏😎👍
You make some valid points, an I would like to throw my 2 cents in here, I have been a student of the the gun since 1970, an including, military time there also. I heard everything you said ( watched the vid all the way thru) an have read all the same studys that were done, the only caveat to everything that you said is, 1. Your better off sacraficeing a little power ( FPE ) for more rounds downrange, as in 15 on board, rather than 5 or 6, after all your punching small hole's in your opponent. An unless you hit the brain or heart for a 1 stop shot ( Hard to do under extreme duress) your more likely to put multiple shots in the thoracic cavity, induceing major blood loss, which will lead to a shutdown of motor skills of your perpetrator. But an this has been Proven that if an individual is high on alcohol, pcp, meth, angel dust, or any other combination of drugs and or alcohol, this mite not even slow them down till their body completely shuts down due to blood loss and or major trauma. Their was an LA Detective that shot a perp with a 10mm 21 times an the guy was in the fight till the minute he died on his feet, still on his feet giving hell to the cops as he was high on angel dust. In this day an age with meth making zombies out of the users I would highly recommend you rethink your strategy on carrying, it mite just save your life or somebody else's, sorry for being long winded bro, but facts are facts. An its a hell of alot faster to reload a semi auto pistol an more convenient to carry a spare mag that it is to try an reload a revolver when the shit hits the fan, jus say in, thx for the vid
As an older person and been involved with hand guns for 40 years, I am inclined to agree with you over sending more during your first defensive response. I generally practice sending 4-5 shots with my 9mm semi auto's. I hope we all can appreciate who and what else may be down range, which give me pause on the volley fire. I was ranged in the times of using a 357 Mag and making that first shot count. That will end most fights, but those guns are too large to carry unless on actual service duty. Hope all us honest citizens get the first shot in on target. Peace.
Agreed
Man alot of great stuff in this one 👏. Now if I can only find an lcr in .327... been searching for two months.
Best caliber for defense is what you are comfortable with and able to stay on target easiest. Most important thing is to have something, and that it's reliable. I like 357 and 45, but I prefer 9mm or 40, due to capacity and better control.
hey man love your channel been watching for awhile i also have the ruger lcr 327 there are some badass pocket holster they are called boraii pocket holsters they are pretty cheap too but work great
Sam I WISH Ruger made the LCR with a THREE INCH Barrel. I carry either a Rossi model 89 .32 Smith and Wesson Long with wadcutters or a Smith model 30 3 inch in same Caliber. On occasion I will load a back up HKS Speedloader with .32 New Police Sellier and Bellot Flat nose lead because using wadcutters with the speed loader is much harder to line up with the chambers. I KNOW many criticize my use of .32 S&W Long but I believe it is a much under rated Cartridge as indeed YOUR Tests have shown. I also carry a Kel-tec P32 with FMJ 71 grain ball.
Charter arms make a 3 inch 7 shot in .32 H&R
Here's your next test Sam. The most powerful 9mm 124 gr+++++p+++++😄(or whatever it is) out of a 3.5 inch gun vs the most powerful 327 mag outta the snubby. Both expanding rounds of the self defense flavor.....not hard cast critter getters. The testing should be done in your 4 Layer Denim Bologna Pack Sternum Simulated Water Jug Test. I think most people that carry revolvers carry snubbies for self defense, for the rest of us :) .... 3 to 4 inch semi autos. Again good shooting and any one of these calibers would do the trick.
Great video...I too prefer revolvers, I think hands-down they are the better handgun design for any defensive situation other than a tactical/combat scenario (that is where the auto-loader's only major advantage IMO, capacity, shines). Question...where did you find .38 Long Colt ammo? I have been curious to get a hold of some to try out in my RIA .38 Special but have never seen it except as a "discontinued item" on some remote web sites...thx and keep the videos coming 👍
How about using a 327 mag revolver in a Texas hog hunt, so we might have a wider data base.Its also a good idea to bring a 9 mm and a 357 mag. hand guns. Thanks for producing these great videos.
Like you I mostly carry a 38 special. I'm also sick and tired of hearing about 9mm with it's high tech ammo. I suspect most people have FMJ ammo in abundance, how about a service size pistol test comparing ball ammo (FMJ) between the 9mm, 40 S&W and the 45acp.
If you have good "situational awareness" aka pay attention to your surroundings you are far more likely to react to the threat at 20 feet or more vrs 10 feet. Personally, I pocket carry a J-frame .38 special or .357 magnum but carry a second gun, typically a .380 LCP, in my other pocket in case there is no time to reload. If I feel the need I will carry a Glock 27 in my right pocket and a G-22 mag on my belt, but still the .380 in the left. Edit: the .327 magnum is a great little gun/round, I would carry one without hesitation.
Pretty good grouping with the LCR, impressive considering the trigger and size.
Gun Sam, that is some fine revolver shooting! The one problem you had with the catch in the draw from your pocket is what I always fear. Good job for you to show it, and continue with the draw and fire.
How about a video of the BEST .357 MAG self defense round? A .327 mag sounds pretty cool, but I want to see your know-how and insight.
I have thought about it. The thing is it's harder to do than something like .38 Special, as so many .357's perform. Now I will say, there's only been about 2 or 3 that did well in a snub, and by well I mean not brutal recoil but still performed. So a snub nose "best .357 round" is overdue.
20 foot is kinda far in the way of self defense. I’m not saying I don’t agree I just paced it out. And it’s a fairly decent distance between two individuals.
Very cool however you need to stop selling the LCR in 327 federal, i want one and am having a tough time finding one! Thanks for the video! Great comparison between the four rounds in carry guns!
Thanks!
It’s not about the caliber as much as it is about point of impact with chosen caliber.
It’s all about the load with the intended target however… if you know your target you know your appropriate caliber. Next is to match the caliber with competency of the shooter. If your playing with bad kids you better practice with the largest caliber and appropriate platform that you can handle. This will take time and $$$
Complacency has probably killed more people than any enemy you can name.
Brother Sam , I was so excited to tell you, I found a Ruger Alaskan in 44 Magnum !!! at a show Saturday
Very nice. I ordered some .44 ammo today, and yesterday. Both are lower end rounds, but still some .44 action coming!
@@GunSam Right on. I try to catch all your wheel gun videos, Your Southern neighbor in Ohio
Gun fights are won, by countless hours of training both mind and body.
Being proficient in your skills, aware of your surroundings at all times.
Being vigilant yet empty mind,no emotion.
Cold as ice yet full of rage ready to destroy who ever threatens you.
Activating the kill switch and knowing you are capable but yet holding back till the last moment when all else fails.
Is the low pressure of the old black powder cartridges the reason why most of the old "cowboy guns" have longer barrels than your typical modern double action .357 magnum?
I carry a new Colt King Cobra 357 magnum "3inch loaded with remington 125 grain semi jhp got 4 zeta 6 speed loaders in pocket & a outbag usa 3 inch holster iwb& owb
The best defense is just like vengeance , it's a dish best served unexpected and totally cold !
I think the dynamics of a officer involved shooting are much different than a citizen involved shooting. I would bet that citizen involved shootings occur much more close up as the situation is more likely to be a ambush or surprise whereas a police officer is most likely responding to a call
Mindset and skill is way more important than gun type. If you practice constantly and easily drop head shots without miss..... his 22 lr pistol is deadlier than the amateur with a FN57 who doesn’t practice.
We’ve had two “shoot outs” at our local mall in the last month. One of them - allegedly - was over a love triangle. Multiple guns and multiple shots fired, both times. ZERO hits. Apparently those boys didn’t have a river bank in their back yard for ‘muscle memory’ practice.
@@pecosjane and probably shot sideways instead of proper sight alignment and trigger squeeze.
Ur Logic is Rite On TY so many over complicate pistol shooting !
Another issue about shooting is that those who do shoot well at the range is not training their minds for battle ♦️ When we would place these shooters at our facility to hit a few targets within a few seconds ; these shooters who are good be placing their hits all over the target or missing the target ♦️ Real life situations is far different than at the ( Range ) creating dime size hits ♦️ We would train the mind of the people we were helping and there is a long direct process of doing this which doesn't including shooting a firearm 🔫🔫 There are many gun owners walking around who hasn't solved the issue of finding the right pant belt to wear 😉
Hey Sam. Another great video my friend. I have to ask… what type of holster are you using?
Have a great day
Hackathorn sights! AmeriGlo makes them for Glocks if you want a similar sight picture that you describe @2:30.
The only part of the argument that you forgot to mention....the 9mm auto is much easier to shoot accurately for most people than the snubnosed revolver...and that makes a difference.
Avoid but stand your ground , control that adrenaline, be faster more accurate than the other guy ,know your target ,rest is muscle memory , so practice practice practice traintraintrain
I enjoy videos and the way you explaining was great ,I am the same 95 % of the time when I carry,
I'd be scared to take the first shot, legally. ...but as they say " judged by 12 , buried by" ......
I pocket carry because of medical issues and found it is the only way I can carry comfortably. I rotate my carry guns , all Taurus. 85 3” .38 special, 605 .357, and a 941ul 2” .22 mag.
Same here. And there's this thing that people don't understand, where even a slightly off balance weight distribution can change a gait entirely. When I carry someway on my thighs in some way, pocket or leg holster, this isn't an issue.
Wear tactical pants and medium size hamerless pistols and revolvers work well from inside the pocket.
Good video. Very interesting discussion. Thanks for sharing. Take care.
Thank you.
I have never owned a firearm in my life. But thanks to your channel I have an idea. Home defense I think I will be happy with a Model 66 or an 8 shot 357 period but I definitely want a J frame or a small 32 revolver. I would love a semi-auto. But I like the simplicity of a revolver. Btw I always hit like before I watch cuz I like all your videos.
Thanks. You would ultimately be happier with a larger revolver if it's not going to be carried. I have been there and done that, and what seems cool at the time becomes no fun when you actually go to shoot it. The small snub nose type revolvers are frustrating if you're new to shooting handguns. A longer barrel makes staring out easier.