2007 Moto Guzzi Griso | Owners Review
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- Опубликовано: 14 дек 2019
- Fair to say it's been an inconsistent start to my ownership so far but the Griso is deffinitely growing on me.
It's reliable where it counts but I wish I had a little more confidence in it starting in the morning. A lot of that can be blamed on a combination of the datatool alarm and the battery but I can't help but feel like a little bit of the blame is pinned on the Griso and its picky nervous system.
If you are in need of a replacement battery you'll commonly find links to the motobat but i'd recommend spending a little extra and hunting for a Yuasa
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Otherwise the Griso has been a peach. It's a solid little lump.
Links to info on Griso 8V and its flat tappet issue
www.guzzitech.com/forums/thre...
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I’ve purchased 2007 Griso 1100 new. Moved the bike to Florida in 2014, but had no time to ride it. Sold in 2017 to a Moto Guzzi enthusiast.
Could not live without it. Purchased it back in 2018. Spent a fortune to bring it back to Illinois and a perfect condition. Waiting to ride it again this Spring.
It will be in my family room next winter!
That's a love story for the ages :) glad you managed to find it again.
i hit the thumbs up button before the video even started, just for making a 2007 bike review in 2019. thanks man.
This is one of the truest and most accurate accounts of Griso ownership that I’ve yet seen. I own the same model and back up all said with one exception, my clutch remains noisy whether warm or cold. This is likely due to slight differences between individual machines though. This bike has caused me more problems than any other BUT, there is something about this modern day Vincent that really gets under your skin. Specs / stats etc mean little. Go and ride one for 30 plus miles before forming an opinion! If you don’t like it, fair enough. I came to the Griso after riding a Honda Blackbird for years and at first I wasn’t sure what the hell I’d just bought. The thing has grown on me so strongly though, that I often just daydream about riding it. It doesn’t matter that it’s not very quick, a bit heavy and a bit cramped, it has presence and soul in spades.
That's a very accurate account too. I really wasn't sure about it the first time I set off down the road but it's definitely grown on me the longer I've owned it.
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I've had my 4v 2008 for about eight years and it's a keeper, cracking motor, decent handling and brakes, looks to die for and that thing practally no modern bike has - C H A R A C T E R
I'm looking to buy a 2006 model, 74,000 km / 46,000 miles.
Is that excessive? How far is your odometer gone on it?
@@jockejocke1
I would say totally depends on condition and history, if the owner has either used a Guzzi specialist, or maintained it themselves, and CAN SHOW they know what they're doing, then no worse than any other 46k mile bike.
Be aware that some spares, like clocks, plastics, etc are no longer offered by Guzzi, possibly some of the mechanicals as well although they do tend to share some things with other models.
Griso meaning from 'Promessi sposi': He is the head of the 'bravi' of Don Rodrigo and his story is full of criminal violence, which went unpunished for the protection of the noble master. A rough character, but who in his roughness does not lack cunning, practical skills, so much so that his master he entrusts him with delicate assignments and commissions risky undertakings, such as that of kidnapping Lucia in the first part of the novel.
My last name is Griso, funny
Grey is "grigio" but sounds similar, a bit harsher in pronouncement
Nice review. I picked mine up in April with 14k on it and the same exhaust. Having ridden many types of bikes over the years I have to say this one is so unique. Absolutely love it!
I enjoy the vocabulary and vernacular, so much so that I sought out the podcast and subscribed to both. Good channel!
I’ve had my 2006 for 11 years and after riding for 40+ years - this is my fave! I call it my "locomotive". :-)
I’ve owned my 2007 Griso since new too, and have, sadly, only put 9500 miles on it.
My goal is to go from here to Alaska and put another 8000 miles on it in 3 weeks.
Yuh...Third video of yours that I've watched now. Enjoyed it. Funny and engaging. Good review with humour as well. I like your formula. Really clicking to it.
Enjoyed the vlog. The temp gauge is really quite important. Whilst we all know water freezes at 0 degrees, add in wind chill and other anomalies when it gets to 4 degrees or below you CAN get icy conditions so you do need to be extra vigilant.
Great review; what a cool bike...I love it!! Thanks!!
Thank you for a wonderful review. Fun, informative and well done! J/Sweden
I initially thought the Griso was hideous, but with time and more angles, I became enamored with it. So I bought a virgin 2007 model and It still looks as sexy as it did in 2007.
I still believe this motorcycle will be timeless.
If only human females could age as gracefully…
I've used Yuasa batteries on all my bikes, never had a problem with them. They're the best!
I found this video because I've been asked to put a clutch in one. Not heard of one or seen one as far as I know & I'm in the club scene so thats odd. What a really well done video & great review. I know how much effort went into that. Im subscribing on the strength of this video. Ill probably have a binge session through more later. Good job.
Thanks, I appreciate it. I always had the fear about the clutch going on mine just because I know how difficult it is to change.
Something I learned from a harley rider who was having battery issues, he bought a battery trickle charger so when he was not on it it was constantly charging the battery. Bike alarms etc are always a big drain on battery if the bike is not used regularly. In colder weather the battery loses a percentage per day again if not used regularly. To keep mine going I take it out for a good 4 or 5 hour run at least every two weeks or as weather permits. I have a Moto Guzzi California EV 1100. I had trouble with it until I replaced the catalytic converter with a cross flow pipe, have not had trouble with it since.
Griso - the best looking Guzzi IMO. Have a 2016 Stelvio myself. Heavy.
I'd agree. It was the looks that sucked me in.
Has to be one of the best looking bikes on the road. I test rode the same model years ago and loved it. If the made the bank 4L larger I’d buy one. Clutches and gear boxes on these newer Guzzi are much more precise and easier to use than either of my Le Mans Guzzis. The art of gear changes on those is to hold the gear lever in place after the clutch is fully released and then a fraction longer. If you try quick shifts you’re going to miss a lot of gears.if the clocks are so temperamental change them for some after market ones. I think they had similar issues with the Breva 1100 too. Thanks for the Very good and honest review......oh yeah. Ditch the alarm. They are pointless problematic luxuries that don’t stop theft but ensure battery overload with all the grief that brings. Lock it up and don’t leave it in a dodgy place.
Yeah the previous owner fitted the alarm, I would never put one on myself, datatool are useless. I'd be tempted to change the clock but the problem is actually with the sensor on the wheel and in the tank after research, not so much the screen as the brains of the thing. Shame, but at least it still starts and runs, I'll take electrical issues over mechanical failings any day.
For now living with 1100 griso , live in hope guzzi bring us new griso in the near future
Looking at one now this is the best review of it on you tube
Thanks man
you won't regret it. getva 2012 or latter if you can, or if earlier make sur it has the roller tappet conversion, it's a must to prevent failure and is covered for parts by motor guzzi if you have a full service history. best to get 1 already done most old ones have been.
I have an '07 Breva 1100...for 2.5 years now. This bike is special and I love riding her. Brakes are not only good (as you say) they are amazing! So much braking power there you'd best be careful first time out. Mine is a 4 valve engine. It is a bit quirky but has been very reliable. I agree that you do want a strong battery for this bike. Anything less and she'll leave you stuck. The suspension is great - rock-solid and predictable. The bike geometry (foot pegs) is a little tight for taller people but manageable. These are gorgeous machines to look at. They are rare in my neck-of-the-woods (Ontario, Canada) and I feel very lucky to have found her. Hope to put on many miles over many more years on this great bike!
I’ve just picked up the ‘04 Breva 750 and have nothing but good things to say about the bike! However, it does lack a bit of power initially but I’m going to upgrade to this GPS exhaust system and see if I can’t get a little more out of it on the low end.
your deliveries are getting so good! informative and soooo amusing! keep up the great work!
Thanks Joseph, it's a fun little hobby.
Just acquired a Griso 1100, 2006 model. First time on a Guzzi after many years in the m'cycle trade. Pretty impressed, quite smooth and enough power for me. Only done about 60 odd miles so far, weather in the UK is crap at the moment and living in London can be a little hectic on the roads. Overall a nice bike. Like your review apart from the pushing bit..:-)
Another griso 1100 in London? I'll have to keep an eye out for you. I know what you mean though, the weather's been shocking, I need a good day to take it out and enjoy it.
I had one (same exact year) and I loved it. I never had the issues you had when I got mine used. So, perhaps the issues have been ironed out. But anyhow, the sound is exactly the way it sounds on a cold start...I really miss that bike. After watching this video, I am interested in getting another one.
They're not a bad price second hand, especially the 4 valves.
great review of this model. Nice one 👍
Griso is a character on Manzoni's novel "I promessi sposi".
Quite badass bullying character of course
And grey = grigio
@@Jonathan-L exactly. it has nothing to do with grey.
I also have a 1200 stelvio love the four valve power very addictive. Griso look nice and still lighter than a stevio.
Congratulations on the Griso, great choice. I am 54 and I just bought me a 2014 with only 7Kl, In excellent shape. After riding for over 20 years. This is the best bike I have ever ridden. It is heavy but I can handle it. You are right about the bike having great performance and comfort. It is not an ordinary bike. Extremely rare in Northern California. This is a gentlemen's bike. It is almost like a cafe racer on steroids. Extremely powerful bike. The guy that sold me the bike did not like it because he wanted a sports bike??. This is a sports bike for the right person. I enjoy the tight corners, the bike handles very well, in the hands of a young inexperience person would be very dangerous. Great sound, people always turn around to see me
IT does handle well, it's a really versatile satisfying ride. Best quick description I read was from an old review that the bike was in the category of "going far, fast" it'll handle and tour just as happily with decent compromises in both.
Good choice but would say that as made the same one about 18 months ago as a second bike. I have not experienced the same electrical issues but then again try to keep it dry. I did go onto the Griso ghetto forum which is a fantastic source of info on these and friendly. Fitted the 1200 bars which are narrower and with a bit more of a pull back, still keeps that open riding position but less of a sail. Also had bike bike remapped by BSD performance - no noticeable gain in power but smooths out those holes in the torque/power curve and beefs up the available power right from the start. A joy to ride . Keep up the good work will check out your other posts.
Thanks Peter. I've heard about the engine remap as well actually, I was curious to see if it actually made much of a difference.
The one vidoe I was wanting for!!! Guzzi motorcycles not only look after your soul but also after your physical health clearly you needed that exercise my good Sir!! I'm dreading the day when I will need to push my Audace to the nearest petrol station!! But that sound proper ear orgasm!! We need to go for a ride I will try to ask my mate on his MGX-21 to come along as well :)
Definitely, we can have a swap again some time in the new year. I saw a pretty tasty looking stelvio on your Instagram recently, deffinitely caught my eye.
I appreciate your honest review, got onto this because I'm looking for a review on a 99 v11 sport. ...yeh I know I'm old ridden virtually everything from a bsa bantam to blades givers etc looking for quirky 😁 thanks for sharing
Thanks, a good informative review. The Griso is on my short list but they seem to be few and far between
You don't find that many of them. Worth hunting around for a good one though.
This video clinched the deal for me.
Went out and bought a 4 valve 1100 Griso.
What a unique looking beast.
£3000 can't beat it for the appeal.
Huge head turner everywhere it goes.
Original muffler quite ugly but loads of aftermarket slip ons available in the £200-£300 price range.
Glad you like it mate. It does tend to turn a few heads as a unique set of wheels.
Brilliant video thanks. I was about to buy one nut I’m glad I didn’t now!
Always had a soft spot for the Griso. I've got a Ducati Scrambler which is sat in my garage hooked up to my Optimate. I doubt the battery would cope as well without it. Great video :)
Thanks man. Yeah I've never had as many issues with a battery as this one. makes me a little nervous about the deep winter if it snows and has to sit for a couple of weeks but we'll see.
Griso is a character from a famous Italian book called "I promessi sposi". He was a sort of bad guy/criminal. They chose the name to give the bike a mean sort-of vibe!
Griso is a caracter of I Promessi Sposi from Alessandro Manzoni, one of the most important books of the italian licterature, and yes it means grey in ancient italian language.
Very interesting and informative video. The clutch rattle is because it is a dry clutch, normal noise for this type of clutch.......:-) Cool bike with typical Moto Guzzi quirks and problems, unique and somewhat agricultural feel, i love them.......:-)
Good and honest review. Had Guzzi’s all my motorcycling life, but never owned a Griso. I think they look fantastic, especially the later SE in black & silver. A long-lasting, sturdy and characterful steed that sets the rider apart from, dare I say, the biking hoi polloi! Alas, the Griso is now to heavy for my old bones so I’ll stick with my Monza and T3.
Re: the name Griso, it isn't named after the color, it's named after a character from a story written around Lake Como, the area surrounding Mandello del Lario where the Guzzis are built. Griso is one of the villains. Good on you for leaving Italian stereotypes out of it this time around. Not knowing Italian culture and folk stories is one thing, making light of racial stereotypes is another thing altogether.
GREAT Review!!! thanks
I have the V1200 Sport with the 2 valve heads, similar to your Griso. I've now done 30,000 miles in the last five years, mostly on my annual ride across Europe. It sits in the garage for the other 11 months. Mine too has been fussy with batteries-the Motobatt got junked after lasting just a year.
Put a Memjet and Quill end can on mine-sounds great and pops on the over run if I turn the Memjet up.
Big Guzzis are great bikes, only appreciated by those that have an open mind
I love a good overrun pop. And I have to say the V7 was nice but I like having that bit of extra power for longer trips.
Enjoyed your coverage of the motorcycle real world 🌎 review,, thanks ☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️ from northern Ireland
This is why I run older bikes. My 1000S has been very reliable. My old bmw boxer is the same. I nearly bought a Benelli trek, but the ecu went awol on pick up day! Got left with the PO.
As far as Italian bikes, I have owned a ducati 860, moto morini 500 camel, laverda 3cl 1000, cagiva 650, and currently have a 1989 Moto Guzzi Mille GT 1000 and a 2013 Moto Guzzi Stone 750. Have owned several German bikes to include BMW and Zundaps. Grew up with British bikes--meaning Triumph and BSA. Have never been interested in Harley. Owned several Suzuki's to include 2-stroke models and the Wankel rotary 750. The Moto Guzzis have been my favorite above all the rest. Quirky, reliable, tractor-like in that the Japanese "refinement" is not there--but if you love just being connected to machinery and sound--Moto Guzzi!--mike battle
I just finished rollerizing my 8v. I originally wanted the pushrod engine but I bought the 8v.
Great video, you gotta love a Griso. I bought an 8V last year and modified frame, panels and bars etc to Cafe Racer. Rides superb but just started experiencing starter problems. Ive read all of the blogs on starter issues which sound a little vague to be honest, I think the battery is the source. It is a Yuasa but quite old. Its recently had a new starter motor so going to invest at £186 but otherwise what a ride. Keep those videos coming, very entertaining!
Thanks man, sorry to hear you've had problems too but someone posted something from grisoghetto.com that might help.
Hope you manage to sort it.
get a volt meter there cheap and you could test the battery and other stuff when needed
Bought a leftover V7 Stone last year and the transmission is the same way. Take off cold and it takes a pretty good hit to get it into 2nd gear, but a few miles from home and it's perfectly smooth.
Yeah it doesn't concern me, just an idiosyncrasy of the brand I think.
My V7ii has no issue engaging gear but the clutch clatter is annoying, however the sound seems to come from the gearbox in neutral, when the gearbox shafts are unloaded. I'm currently thinking wrong oil or wrong amount of oil; workshops have been known to put the wrong amount of the wrong (cheap) oil in. The V7 5sp takes 1 litre but the 6sp takes 500ml, both Eni Rotra synth 75W/90 which is not quite the same spec as normal gear oil.
Guzzi have best reliability of the italian bikes✊🔥
I have a very similar Griso and absolutely love it. Looks amazing, plus handles and rides beautifully - faster than it looks too. Sadly, I’ve got to sell it now ☹️
Shame man, you'll miss it in sure. Mine is probably getting sold this year too
@@RarefiedRoad what motivated the sale? Seen your ad on FB and figured the Indian FTR tempted you.
I was really fancying one but after riding and R9T Racer I'm not sure if the Griso could compare.
I have a 1200 8V of 2008: to me this bike is a mix between a Harley Davidson Sportster and a Ducati Monster. I always had another bike but kept the Griso for the wonderful look and the old style riding experience.
I can see that. They guy that bought it off me thought it reminded him of a Harley too.
Mines a 2008 that I bought in. 2012. I love it so much that when I moved to France, the multistrada got sold and the Griso was kept and moved with me. Not sure about the battery comments, I have the motoblatt unit that you have replaced and mine behaves faultlessly but I will be a little more fussy when it finally dies. I run my Griso with the Rapidbike engine management kit and that seems to have smoothed out a lot of the power delivery issues, certainly around town. The clutch is heavy but when you get out of town and open her up she is a delight - you know your riding a "proper bike" - you feel the road, the engine, everything, its really what a bike should be. Yes she is long, yes she is heavy but wow, what a love affair she starts. I agree, not everybody thinks she is as beautiful as I do but there is someone for everybody in this world and she is for me. I will sell her when I am forced to by health or wealth (lack of) but otherwise, never.
I loved your video. I just picked up a 2007 with 1,100 miles on it. I've owned many bikes over the years. This is my first Moto Guzzi. It blends so many different aspects into a unique package. It's got torque and a sound similar to my Sportster 1200. It handles and rides like my old Honda Interceptor (1986). It has a look and personality similar to the Ducati Monster, but with better fit, finish and comfort. As mentioned by others, the Griso has a lot of personality.
I've seen others with the thermal wrap around the pipes like yours. I have such a hard time understanding why someone would want to hide those beautiful stainless pipes.
It's a shame you had problems with yours. I suspect if you hadn't, you may have kept it around longer. I bet those electrical problems were caused by the battery. Low voltage is very confusing to modern electronics.
I was watching the odometer for the first few tanks of fuel, prepared to punch out and find fuel if my light didn't come on by 150 miles (keeping your push in mind). My light comes on between 125-140 miles after refill. Interestingly, once I do fill up, the light remains on until after I pull off and ride a 1/4 mile or so.
I look forward to watching more of your videos. Entertaining and informative.
How was your summer with the Griso?
There is a 2006 1100 Griso for sale near me, 46,000 miles on it.
Is that excessive?
It's not crazy expensive, the price is fair I guess. Maybe it's a good thing it's run for so long, shows that everything works on it.
But what about the shaft? After that distance it might be tired and very worn.
Any advice would be greatly appreciated :)
Yes l had the Griso 1100 l fell in love with the looks and when l rode it l had to have one! BUT........... l had problems with the electrics, problems with gaskets and trouble with fuel pump shame because it was great to ride and this was on a brand new bike! I now ride a Truimph and don’t belong to the AA anymore!
😂 Yeah a reliable bike is worth it's weight. Especially if you ever have to push the bloody thing when it decides to stop on you. Triumphs build quality has improved a lot in recent years.
I love this bike ❤️🔥
Griso is an imaginary character of promessi sposi ( the first and most famous italian novel) written by Alessandro Manzoni.
Griso's character is sly and evil. Directly from the novel "s'imponevano le imprese più rischiose e più inique" means the one who does the most unfair and dangerous actions. The best desirables features in a bike.
That makes sense. Thanks.
Nice I bought an mint 07 in the fall
Very beautiful bike. I've a local bike shop selling 2014 model unregistered with no mileage. In conversion to USD the price is $11,800 and it has been hovering over my mind for a while. Time will tell...
Hi there, I enjoyed the video. I own a 2010 Griso 1200 (non SE) with the "issue" solved.
I think it's probably the prettiest bike that I have owned and there aren´t many like that.
That said, as a cruiser I find that there is a backround noise that's characteristic of the Griso and after a few miles of long straights it starts to get annoying. I don't feel that when riding on twisty roads though.
Also the lack of ABS which meant it couldn't fill the Euro4 requirements is actually a letdown as I did block the back wheel once and on that note, the 240 Kg wet were thoroughly felt at that time...
That's my fear. Glad you didn't come off but I reckon if it decided to lose traction it'll be a beast to wrestle back. I'm just longing for spring so I can try it on some dry twisty roads.
My V7ii would fire up the ABS and MGCT with very little effort on the stock Pirelli but has never done so on the Avon. When the tyres grip as they should there's no problem, but when they let go the toys are very effective. When a bike does decide to let go you get so little time to react before you hit the deck. If you have to think about what to do it will be too late.
Thanks for the review. My son has a new V7 Stone night pack. I love Guzzi’s but can’t bring myself to like the taped exhaust. It reminds me of Exhaust Bandage we used to use years ago to fix rusting car exhausts. Otherwise it looks good. Regards, Bob M. South Wales
Thanks Bob. Tbh I hate the pipe wraps, previous owner put them on but I think they look tatty. Otherwise I'm a fan of the looks.
Agree on this!
Pipe wrapping was done of old to hide scars after dropping the bike - serves no other purpose. No idea why anyone copies that look.
At least on cars header wrap is for heat
I never had problems with the bike other than what was standard: ABS sensor failed(easy fix), instrument cluster fogged(allways try to not spray directly at it, but it will dry off on a good trip). Other than that the bikes are very sensitive to wrong air pressure, worn tires and suspension settings. The feeling of "falling into the turn" he was talking about is easely fixed. All in all it is a fantastic bike.
Probably the best bike ever build. Try the 1200 SE from 2012 to present. It is even better. Way better. Much more power.
I agree iv'e got a 2012 with arrows exhaustand beetle maped and I fuckin love it. lol
My 2006 1100 was recently swamped in recent 2022 new south Wales flooding, so it didn't like drowning. It was by far my favourite guzzi Ive owned out of 5 others. Reliable, a little cramped (i am 6'2) sounded as an authentic guzzi push rod should and unique. Best of all, handled as well as many many current bikes. Biggest concern, rear brake deadly in the wet, prone to going from stopping to locking up with out warning. Dry clutch not good in heavy traffic. From 2017, I clocked up about 35,000 bought in 17 with about 20,000 kms from new. When insurance comes in, I'm in the market for another griso or an 1100 sport. Any leads would be appreciated. Can't live with out at least 1 guzzi and a airhead bmw,.......
Griso is a character in Alessandro Manzoni's book I Promessi Sposi/The Betrothed. That's where Moto Guzzi nicked that name
What a great review! Nice looking bike, lots of character lol, interpret that how you like! Haha, but i do like this bike.
Griso is much nicer looking than the bimmer, imo. I’m trying to decide between a brand new 2017 Griso 1200 S.E. (still in crate) and a 2020 Kawasaki Z900rs. I owned and regret selling my 2014 Guzzi California Custom, what a nice machine that was, 3 years...........zero issues.
So.. what did you choose? I'm on the fence between these two and a Triump Speed Twin. Would greatly appreciate your ideas!
@@rutgerpeters1152 I skipped a year and now looking to wait for the new MG V100 and I tried the new CB1000R Black Line and that was marvellous.
@@pierremartin9048 Yeah that V100 really seems stunning!
I was test riding a katana and this guy pulls up in this beautiful looking red Moto guzzi, we all started staring at it--- turned out to be grismo.... what a bike!!!! my r18 was parked right next to it, and no one was looking at the r18 after this bike showed up! True story, lost all my motivation to ride my bike, but I had to go home...
Description of ( griso) A character in ( i promessi sposi) by Alessandro Manzoni once of thé most famous work of italian literature. In the book Griso is a tough and fearles leader of the so called Bravi and a men, who naturally undertook all thé most daring and dangerous enterprises. So now you hnow ☺️ keep on the good work. Jacques 😎
Make sure you the battery fully topped up
Ooh I was thinking of getting one of these
It's a pretty sturdy lump with decent handling. I'd recommend it.
Actually it was this or the V7. But you have given my mind some peace as I was worried about the reliability
@@misterborntodrill4167 Which way did you go? I'd also like one of these two next. Thanks.
Congrats on he new bike, I guess? Its a good looking set of wheels (and sounds amazing too) but seems like a lot of headaches too. For me reliability is the most important - what good is performance if it can't be ridden? What happened to the V7? Are you just swapping through bikes because of the channel or were there issues, or some other reason?
Also, please don't let some cranks ruin your style. I love your style and your jokes. I watch a lot of motorcycle vids and sub to a bunch of channels from people around the world riding lots of different bikes, but your vids are some of my favorites and I would hate to see you muzzled. Whenever I see you posted another I immediate head to your channel. They are always informative and just entertaining. That's why I watch even the ones that are of little interest/concern to me personally (like your anti-theft vids, since there is so little bike theft where I live and my biggest fear is A-holes knocking it over when parking or leaving).
Thanks Dom that's really encouraging to hear. I don't think I could neutralise my style if I tried to be honest, I only make reference to previous comments to entertain myself really and tease them as subtly as I can. The V7 was great but basically I took it on two long trips and found its only real achilles heal was touring so I fancied something similar with more comfort and speed and found this for a respectable price so I had to satisfy my curiosity. Who knows how long I'll keep it but I'm liking it a lot now that I've sorted the starter problems. Thanks for the comment. See you in the next one.
@@RarefiedRoad Perhaps check out the new V85? More touring oriented than the V7, but perhaps with more reliability than the Griso.
Great build up and delivery of the electronics gag!😁 Love these Grisos, but I think I'm a bit short at 5'7"? A V7II, perhaps?
I think the V7 would be a good choice. Very comfortable height. I really miss mine.
8v with over 80t miles with only small problems i have seen✊🔥🔥
Nice vid! I have a Griso 1200SE. Traded in my V7racer&V11 Sport for it (brand new and 💸). In weak moments I consider going back to a V7. A mark 3 with a 820 kit from Guzzitech perhaps would be perfect.
It's always going to be a temptation. TBH I'm pretty happy with anything from Moto Guzzi.
Tu Jo
As it so happens Todd (GuzziTech) has his V7III Racer 820 for sale at the moment, and it's a great bike! He has it dyno'ed to 61 h.p. at the wheel and weighed it at less than 400 lbs (I think it was 397 with a full tank of gas) - I know. I know. CA is a long ways away from Norway 😢💁♂️ p.s. I used to own a 2007 Griso 1100. Wonderful bike for all the reasons mentioned here. In weak moments I consider going back and finding myself another one 😂👍
@@christophers_verified I believe import of such a tuned machine is not allowed...
My 2008 Moto Guzzi 1200 Sport was also very picky about battery voltage. If the battery had less than 12v it would not even try to start. 11.7 volts? Nope, sorry. But if you ride it regularly the battery stays topped up and there’s no issue. Battery tender highly recommended for the winter storage months. I just sold my 1200 Sport and plan on getting a V7 Stone S next season to go with my KTM Duke 390. Once Guzzi gets in your blood it’s hard to let go.
Very true, I'm still really tempted to get another V7, it's a really good second bike.
Nice report
Thumbnail made me happy in the trousers
Had a early 4 valve and loved it. Tried a 8 valve and didn't like the power delivery: solution? Have MPC build you a BB1, a water-jacketed 1,420cc , using in my case back in '11, a 1100 Griso. Still got it, a 'wild child' of a 'bike and never fails to put a huge grin on my face! TragoGT
Nice solution.
Sounds like you have too much money and own a Spanish villa near tremoreland!! 😂
Here are some more details to consider: The kick stand can fall off (ask me how I know)- you must reinstall bolts using loc tite. The three fasteners for the Grimeca clutch slave are flanged hex heads. You MUST remove them and replace them with flat heads. As soon as you remove the factory screws you'll see that the case is made with tapered countersinks for flat heads. If you do not replace them, then the originals can rattle loose, the clutch juice drains out, and the shift rod can seize in the transmission. The 2V engine and the CARC final drive are good units. However, the nobs at the factory install the final drive with no grease on the splines of the drive shaft- this could lead to a bad wear condition. ...which would be problem if you actually find that you spend more time in the saddle rather than time spent disassembling and rebuilding the unit. RE the PC boards in the dash. You are f**cked if/when corrosion starts eating the board. I found my bike and ungrateful bitch and heaved it. I'm a 4 time recovered Guzzi owner who is now comfortably settled down with a 2014 BMW R1200R- a superior machine in every respect.
Griso's a very handsome bike (particularly love the "tenni green" version with the darker brown seat). Recent-year used examples here in the States are almost insultingly cheap, so the market there must be considerably more competitive for you to have to reach back before the 8v SE versions to 2007. Even putting aside the electrical gremlins and other eccentricities, doesn't sound like you're smitten, so why'd you part with the V7? Of course, the Griso is sportier, but the V7 is a fair bit lighter and therefore perhaps more nimble. Guzzi ownership seems to be binary - love or hate. We'll see where you land. Enjoyed the review, as always.
I like a Guzzi. And I do like this one but no I wouldn't say I'm smitten I loved the V7 so this one had its work cut out to impress me, very hard act to follow. Only thing I missed in the V7 was high speed touring which is pretty much the only reason I changed. Sensible reasons and it does make sense for comfort and distance but I probably won't keep it longer than a year.
My Griso 1100 that I've had for 30,000 + miles, purchased used with 30,000 miles, has been a great bike. I don't leave it or ride it in the rain so my dash has been good. I can service the Griso in less than an hour which is great and cheap. I also will confirm that you only get about 170 miles out of a tank but I'm not going to complain and I was a 64 year old Construction worker when I pushed it. The Griso 1100 is heavier than a wheelbarrow full of concrete but pushes easier due to the wide bars. The only bike I might replace it with is a V85 Griso or V85 Lemans. (My other bike is a V11 Lemans Rosso Corsa).
Hey I'm not the only one :)
To be fair it was comfortable enough to push I just wasnt a fan when I got to the hill. Still a charming machine though and it handled really well.
How far has yours gone now? Close to 70,000 miles?
There is a 2006 1100 Griso for sale near me, 46,000 miles on it.
Is that excessive? Should I look for any particular wear on it? Like the shaft or anything else?
thanks :)
Check to see if the clutch and fuel filter has been changed. Sure you have to grease the driveshaft splines, repack the headset bearings and repack the swingarm bearings but you'd have to do that with any nearly 20 year old bike regardless of the mileage unless you live in a yearly cool climate. @@jockejocke1
@@not-fishing4730 thank you for the quick answer 👍
Sounds great for a big Vtwin
It does have a satisfying burble to it.
Nice vid/review. Always liked this bike. Really hoping they make an 850 Griso with the engine from the V85 TT & put some high spec suspension & brakes on it too. Everything crossed it happens!
Same, I've heard the V85 has a decent engine, I'd love to see it in something as pretty as the Griso.
@@RarefiedRoad Agreed. It"s too nice a design to just disappear because of Euro 5 etc. I think there's a good chance that it or something similar will surface next year with a modern refresh, even if it's just a prototype at Eicma.
You will probably not see this comment, but for those who do “Griso” has the same meaning as “Bravo” in old Italian. This makes more sense for naming the motorcycle as such as well.
Griso in como lake's dialet means "the gry one" but is reffered not to his letteral meaning but to a "Promessi Sposi" character, a romance every italian study at school
Yeeessss, thank you! Griso is awesome bike, at least, it looks like that. Too bad you had some issues with it, it ruins the experience defintely. Does the last couple of bike rewiews tell us that Royal Enfield are the next ones? ;) Norton bikes also look great...
It certainly takes the shine off when you have to fix things on a new bike. I'm still happy with it though, at least for the next 6 months ;)
It's comments about long legs and cramped made me buy a harley, later this year discovered a thread on Griso Ghetto where a large proprtion of Griso owners were 6.2 plus with a range of inseams from 30 - 34 instolling its virtues. You can raise the bars, fit a stelvio shock for an inch in height increase then fit inch lower pegs, lots are happy as is.
So you relied on the warning light instead of using the trip hence the two mile push.
The 1200 8 valves ran from 2008 in mainly gloss white, red, black, in 2010/11 they brought out the Tenni Green SE with spoke wheels and a brown seat, the later 2013 to 2015 models were all SE with spoke wheels. They made them in silver and black and orange and black. The starting problems affect all griso's even the last of them other models too I believe. Some from the factory. The cure is to run a heavy gauge fused cable from the front starter relay grafted in, to the solenoid starter connection. For some reason the original cable is too thin and runs a convoluted journey of loss to the solenoid. Guzzi made a fix but the cable was still not heavy duty enough.
Looks like a dream to work on. I had a BMW R1150R and to get the battery out you're looking at lifting the tank up and dismembering half the bike...
Hey bro, thanks for the review, how tall are you? Is it ok for 6’3 rider?
Great video informative and entertaining, i like your sense of humour, but you haven't really lived until you have pushed a Vmax 1200(270kgs) 3 miles down a country lane in the pouring rain, after the fuel reserve solenoid switch stopped working.....after two hours pushing i arrived at a Texaco garage, i manged to get the bike on it's centre stand in a state of extreme panting redness, my legs gave way and i fell the floor, bearing in mind i was 67 years old and weighed 75kgs. Anyway I'm looking to buy a Stornello, at least this way if i run out of petrol i won't suffer a stroke.......:-)
😂 That sounds less than enjoyable, fair play to you. I'd only sold the V7 about a month before getting this, that would have been a doddle to push.
Love me some dry clutch rattle along with straight cut gears! Idk if the griso whines, but my v7 iii has that whine from the transmission. who knows how long it will last though as I head that the whine goes away with break in
Louis Valdivia yeah Grisos have a whine too
As you went thru junctions or overtook people I found myself looking in your mirrors to check with any cars coming up on the inside or whatever!!!
I think it will be a good idea for Moto Guzzi to open a quality assurance department
Great stuff this , Where can I find your pod cast ?
Thanks. It's called the full tank motorcycle podcast, started it with motobob a while back.
www.stitcher.com/podcast/anchor-podcasts/the-full-tank-motorcycle-podcast
Ok no problem
What is it with Italian bikes and clutches? Is it supposed to be a "mechanical" noise thing?
Other than it being because it's a dry clutch I don't know. This is one of the loudest that I've heard.
Guzzi connectoids aren't fully waterproof, and the dash is exposed to the elements. Pull the dash connector and a small dose of switch cleaner (Servisol 10) will clean, de-water and waterproof. A condition not unique to Italian bikes but be happy you don't have a Laverda.
Thanks Jeff. I will definitely be giving the switch cleaner a go. Each bike teaches me something new if nothing else.
Great review! What is the jacket you are wearing?
It's Resergence Shirpa. Really nice spring or autumn jacket.
@@RarefiedRoad Sherpa
Entertaining and informative as always. I assume you sold the V7II. True? If so, what prompted the move?
I did. Unfortunately I've only got room for one bike at a time in London. I was just curious of the bigger capacity, the V7 was great but it felt a bit limited on a long trip so I wanted something that would tour a bit easier. I miss the V7 though.
@@RarefiedRoad Similar story: I bought a V7II Special in 2015. Loved it. Three months later, my wife was rear-ended at a stop light. She wasn't seriously injured, but the impact bent the bike's frame and totaled it. With the insurance money, I bought a brand spanking new V9 Bobber, which had just arrived at the Moto Guzzi shop. After a couple of years, I traded that for a bike similar to the Griso: a Suzuki Bandit 1250s, which I got new for a song. Rationale was similar to yours: I wanted something that would be better on a long trip, especially with a pillion rider. It's a fantastic motorcycle, perfect for why I bought it. But I miss the V7. I don't miss the V9, which was kind of a bummer in a variety of ways. But I miss the V7 badly. So much so that I'm considering selling the Suzuki and buying another V7 next spring. Turns out I don't really like long-distance riding all that much, especially on a freeway among trucks going 80mph. I love commuting and riding on the lovely country roads we have here in Wisconsin. The Suzuki is way too much bike for either of those purposes. So, who knows? We shall see.
@@kylehsings Hi i'm very interested in a v9 can you explain why you dont miss the v9/ it was a bummer? very little long term reviews online. Thank you.
@@kylehsings Hi, I'm very interested in the v9, could you please explain why it bummed you out and you don't miss it? very few/non existant long term reviews online. Thanks
@@explorationmoss1015 Sorry for the delay. I didn't realize my wordy story prompted a question. The V9's engine was great. Plump and powerful. I always thought of the V7 and V9 as brothers: the former, wiry and thin; the latter, muscular and thick. But the V9's handling, ergonomics and comfort were all meh at best and just lousy at worst. It's as if the designers at Moto Guzzi couldn't decide whether the V9 was a standard or a cruiser. It was something in between, and not in a good way. Plus the seat (and I had the upgraded "confort" seat) was just awful on a ride more than 20 miles. Even a 50-minute ride to a lake in south Wisconsin killed my butt. Looking back, I much preferred the V7II, despite its thinner, snatchier power.
I wonder if a taller screen might help keep some of the rain off the clocks?
I know it might look a bit odd.. but I'd be tempted to wrap a plaggy bag around them, with
a bungee or similar to secure. Not pretty - but worth doing if it knocks the issue on the head.
Pity about the electronics - as you say, they have a lot going for them, other than that.
It had a bigger screen but it wouldn't make much difference to the bike. The damp does the damage when it's parked up, and I've just found out the sensor is actually located near the rear wheel. It's going to need replacing some time soon.
@@RarefiedRoad (by the rear wheel) - Why would they do that! Why why why!
Heard of quite a few things like that w/ Italian bikes ... they make these beautiful
bikes ... and then .... stick stuff somewhere according to a game of pin the tail on the donkey!
I suppose if it a box of some sort, you could bang some silicon in there?
Rarefied Road, I cured the speed sensor problem by applying a bead of silicon sealant to the sensor wire / body junction. This has completely cured the ‘crazy speedo’ symptoms. As for starting issues, contact MPH Cycles in Houston Texas. For about £30 they’ll make and post you a starter relay bypass kit. Along with the Yuasa battery trick which you know, this SHOULD alleviate the starting problems.