They were defined as "mission specialists" for legal purposes because the vehicle wasn't licensed to carry tourists. It was a legal loophole, but technically correct to refer to them by that designation (at least retrospectively).
“With exploration, there is risk.” Ok, but that isn’t the full story of what happened here… this isn’t about an exploration that went awry, it was about an entire company being built on a lie for profit.
A blatant case of Normalization of Deviance. Normalization of Deviance- 'The gradual process through which unacceptable practice or standards become acceptable.
There are no "regulations." Also the US Navy had tested some carbon fiber diving vessels. So the Ocean Gate folks built on those ideas but very poorly and without regard to ensuring a good design.
Taking needless risks and assigning consequences to the “Danger is Inevitable” file reflects immature thinking and narcissistic behavior. Ego killed these five, not system failures.
I watched 4K video of the titanic wreckage in great detail…from the safety of my own home. $500,000 a piece to “be next to it?” I wouldn’t have gone for free.
This guy probably thought he was God like. He ignored every warning from his employees and other specialists that this was not safe. He was arrogant and cared more about his fame than people's lives. If he was some evil genius he wouldn't have put himself in the Titan sub. He just was arrogant and too "positive."
He was a descendant of 2 different founding fathers. His ancestors literally signed this country into law. Even Bobbi Kristina Brown, the daughter of Whitney Houston and Bobby Brown, who couldn’t sing or dance and had no cultivated talent of her own, believed herself to be the next one in their legacy. What people get told about themselves really can go to their heads b
Prior to the dive, difficulty arose with keeping the Titan horizontal. Descending through a fluid a craft cannot rely on free fall to arrive at its destination, but needs fins to control its direction of travel, which were lacking in the basic design. The point of failure was the brittle glue connection between the titanium cone and the carbon fibre hull. Even this expedition might have completed successfully. The Titanic was already in sight. However, the craft was descending faster than normal and an error in judgment resulted in the Titan touching the ocean floor sooner than expected and at an angle instead of landing flat on its platform. Even a relatively small jolt would have been sufficient for the epoxy to separate from the titanium ring. Epoxy glue clings tenaciously and it is almost impossible to separate two parts joined together with the application of heat, but when chilled near freezing the brittle substance cracks with ease from even a minor shock. The junction of the cone to the hull should have been similar to that in metal plumbing pipe couplings with a convex rim of the cone pressing into a concave grove in the ring so that the more outside pressure that is exerted the tighter the seal, which would also withstand failure from the application of lateral forces. Bolts, in addition to glue. Primary failure was not due to the carbon fibre hull collapsing, but spread from the point of separation of the ring.
The trip went terribly wrong bc S.Rush was at the helm of a submersible made out of home depot materials. The 3 adults with him were dumb af and the a son knew it was a disaster in the making. He just wanted to please his dad. Imagine the look on dad's face when both him and his son started hearing the crackling noises in that starfish of the sea tunacan they were stuck in with no way to escape.
Prior to the dive, difficulty arose with keeping the Titan horizontal. Descending through a fluid a craft cannot rely on free fall to arrive at its destination, but needs fins to control its direction of travel, which were lacking in the basic design. The point of failure was the brittle glue connection between the titanium cone and the carbon fibre hull. Even this expedition might have completed successfully. The Titanic was already in sight. However, the craft was descending faster than normal and an error in judgment resulted in the Titan touching the ocean floor sooner than expected and at an angle instead of landing flat on its platform. Even a relatively small jolt would have been sufficient for the epoxy to separate from the titanium ring. Epoxy glue clings tenaciously and it is almost impossible to separate two parts joined together with the application of heat, but when chilled near freezing the brittle substance cracks with ease from even a minor shock. The junction of the cone to the hull should have been similar to that in metal plumbing pipe couplings with a convex rim of the cone pressing into a concave grove in the ring so that the more outside pressure that is exerted the tighter the seal, which would also withstand failure from the application of lateral forces. Bolts, in addition to glue. Primary failure was not due to the carbon fibre hull collapsing, but spread from the point of separation of the ring.
Possibly. The violence of the implosion detached the rear cone and the entire front dome. The flow of energy seems to go from front to back of the vessel.
In the history of submaritime operation, we haven’t lost one sub that didn’t accidentally exceed its max dive depth or wasn’t intentionally destroyed, until now
@@claireconoverego was definitely involved when the titanic was trying to break a speed record to get to new york it was going30 knots .so ego definitely sank the titanic. .
Well no, the whole point is clearly the company was not operating anywhere near as professionally as they should have been so the passengers were misled.
You would have to be insane to think that there wouldn't be any kind of danger getting into any submersible and going to visit a wreck 2 km underneath the ocean. I'm sure there was concerns about the thrasher and the scorpion and those were both government approved subs.
3.77 km That is very deep. A human would be crushed down to the size of a hotdog faster than an explosion. And seeing as they more than 3 times deeper than Henry's Law would require, at that depth the air inside of the vessel would not have even formed a bubble. Even the air itself would have been instantly absorbed into the water.
“With exploration, there is risk.” Okay but there is a difference between risk and recklessness. Stockton Rush’s hubris led these people to their death.
(sigh) The US Navy uses similar devices as an input device in some applications. The use of the Logitech controller was not "dumb", nor did it play into the demise of the vessel.
Well. It takes an implosion to start an investigation? No one bother to before or attempt to stop the operation? Loopholes from dive site in international water but no flagging of red flags from port of the uncertified sub operate from or where the company is based?
Titan CEO Stockton Rush fired one of his engineers who wrote him a letter of concern on the reliability of the carbon fiber hull. Stockton was arrogant, naive, attention seeking, and put lives at risk for his “explorer” mindset.
Some Extra Salt in the Wound to use a Government Submarine to find and film the wreckage of a Libertarian Submarine that imploded due to ignoring Government regulations 😂
I understand pushing limits, that has made humanity thrive thougout history. But we should never put peoples lives at risk to get there. oh and never get in a deep dive sub that is glued in place.
Bro that sub is little af..automatic hell noooo for me..yall going that deep to see the titanic naww thats suicidal ! R.i.p to them and all man but WTF were they thinking plus the straps holding it together WTF all that pressure under their cracked It right in half like an eggshell YIKERZ yikez
I want to see the bodies. Has anybody seen the bodies? Did you see the bodies? I’m didn’t see them. Are they actually there? Did this really happen? Is god real? Did we land on the moon? Is there any other way to make cheese? If I eat nothing but kernel corn and drink only water, will I poo straight corn? These are the important questions we need answers to
The "experts" testifying are over emotional and barely understandable. How she can put it as "all exploration runs a risk" is disgusting and sad. Shame on her.
This report really didn't reveal anything new other than 1 picture of video showing more. Otherwise, from day 1 people have been saying what was presented on this weak report.
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It's terrible but it reminds me of the episode where myth busters built different things using duck tape!! What was rush thinking?? He would have been better off building the hull out of duct tape! It would have been strong but also had flexibility, I'm half joking and half serious!! What an insane asshole rush was !
I wish the news media would stop calling these people “mission specialists “.
They were defined as "mission specialists" for legal purposes because the vehicle wasn't licensed to carry tourists. It was a legal loophole, but technically correct to refer to them by that designation (at least retrospectively).
Put more emphasis on “special”
I’ve been watching the Coast Guard hearings. 😮
“With exploration, there is risk.” Ok, but that isn’t the full story of what happened here… this isn’t about an exploration that went awry, it was about an entire company being built on a lie for profit.
thank you. these people keep saying "its not supposed to be safe! its supposed to be for adventure!" like what
that's why we have governments, rules, regulations, inspections, laws, testing... morons LOL
Calling them "mission specialists" is like calling redditors "investigators"
"Ocean Gate has suspended its operations since the fatal accident." Well duh. The whole business literally and metaphorically imploded.
Hello Ocean Gate are you still doing trips down to the Titanic? Hello? Hello?
The bereaved families are said to be crushed by the loss of their loved ones.
A blatant case of Normalization of Deviance.
Normalization of Deviance- 'The gradual process through which unacceptable practice or standards become acceptable.
Money does crazy things to people
Yet so does not having money
Like Trump and the GOP
@@ssb1056like the left wanting to transexualize children.
That's life in the U.S. since 2010.
@@u.synlig my comment was deleted. Anything pro Trump gets taken down. Wonderful free country we live in.
All I needed to know is he went against regulations using carbon fiber in a submersible. FAAFO.
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There are no "regulations." Also the US Navy had tested some carbon fiber diving vessels. So the Ocean Gate folks built on those ideas but very poorly and without regard to ensuring a good design.
@@SM-Flyers"tested" is the important word there.
he had that silicon valley tech bro arrogance… but nobody ever died using an ipad or logging into a tech service.
Elizabeth Holmes comes to mind
“Tech bro”-
Sure, nothing to do with its CRT, DEI subversion promoted by your DNC/DSA/BLM/Antifa comrades, just like with Boeing 👌🏻
Exactly. Reminds me of the mindset of Enron execs
A submersible named "Titan" that used carbon fiber instead of titanium is peak irony.
Taking needless risks and assigning consequences to the “Danger is Inevitable” file reflects immature thinking and narcissistic behavior.
Ego killed these five, not system failures.
Ego and capital (e.g. aiming to be as cheap as possible)
I watched 4K video of the titanic wreckage in great detail…from the safety of my own home. $500,000 a piece to “be next to it?” I wouldn’t have gone for free.
“With exploration, there is risk.” = Rich ego denial
This guy probably thought he was God like. He ignored every warning from his employees and other specialists that this was not safe. He was arrogant and cared more about his fame than people's lives. If he was some evil genius he wouldn't have put himself in the Titan sub. He just was arrogant and too "positive."
He was a descendant of 2 different founding fathers. His ancestors literally signed this country into law. Even Bobbi Kristina Brown, the daughter of Whitney Houston and Bobby Brown, who couldn’t sing or dance and had no cultivated talent of her own, believed herself to be the next one in their legacy. What people get told about themselves really can go to their heads b
Worst guy related to a sub company since Jared Fogle
Prior to the dive, difficulty arose with keeping the Titan horizontal. Descending through a fluid a craft cannot rely on free fall to arrive at its destination, but needs fins to control its direction of travel, which were lacking in the basic design. The point of failure was the brittle glue connection between the titanium cone and the carbon fibre hull. Even this expedition might have completed successfully. The Titanic was already in sight. However, the craft was descending faster than normal and an error in judgment resulted in the Titan touching the ocean floor sooner than expected and at an angle instead of landing flat on its platform. Even a relatively small jolt would have been sufficient for the epoxy to separate from the titanium ring. Epoxy glue clings tenaciously and it is almost impossible to separate two parts joined together with the application of heat, but when chilled near freezing the brittle substance cracks with ease from even a minor shock.
The junction of the cone to the hull should have been similar to that in metal plumbing pipe couplings with a convex rim of the cone pressing into a concave grove in the ring so that the more outside pressure that is exerted the tighter the seal, which would also withstand failure from the application of lateral forces. Bolts, in addition to glue. Primary failure was not due to the carbon fibre hull collapsing, but spread from the point of separation of the ring.
aren't there laws against this LOL
ok, tomorrow, I'm sending you to Mars, ok?
That first witness….jeez.
Why does the title say new details? These are the same details I've been hearing since the disaster
Welcome to world of Click bait
Now they found the tail part? Isn’t that new?
I don't understand why people want to go down that deep to see the Titanic, its just a rotting ship 🤷♂️ what is there to see
Cuz they're fascinated with it. Some people have interests that other people can't relate to or understand. Simple as that.
Over the years the ship has changed with the metal degrading due to the ocean water and want to see what is still left of it.
Lots of treasure
The trip went terribly wrong bc S.Rush was at the helm of a submersible made out of home depot materials. The 3 adults with him were dumb af and the a son knew it was a disaster in the making. He just wanted to please his dad. Imagine the look on dad's face when both him and his son started hearing the crackling noises in that starfish of the sea tunacan they were stuck in with no way to escape.
Facts couldn't pay me to go deep to see that shhh I don't care how good the sub is built still saying no
What are the new details?
Prior to the dive, difficulty arose with keeping the Titan horizontal. Descending through a fluid a craft cannot rely on free fall to arrive at its destination, but needs fins to control its direction of travel, which were lacking in the basic design. The point of failure was the brittle glue connection between the titanium cone and the carbon fibre hull. Even this expedition might have completed successfully. The Titanic was already in sight. However, the craft was descending faster than normal and an error in judgment resulted in the Titan touching the ocean floor sooner than expected and at an angle instead of landing flat on its platform. Even a relatively small jolt would have been sufficient for the epoxy to separate from the titanium ring. Epoxy glue clings tenaciously and it is almost impossible to separate two parts joined together with the application of heat, but when chilled near freezing the brittle substance cracks with ease from even a minor shock.
The junction of the cone to the hull should have been similar to that in metal plumbing pipe couplings with a convex rim of the cone pressing into a concave grove in the ring so that the more outside pressure that is exerted the tighter the seal, which would also withstand failure from the application of lateral forces. Bolts, in addition to glue. Primary failure was not due to the carbon fibre hull collapsing, but spread from the point of separation of the ring.
Possibly. The violence of the implosion detached the rear cone and the entire front dome. The flow of energy seems to go from front to back of the vessel.
"It was never meant to be safe." What, sir?
Narcissism is dangerous, Stockton’s ego killed these people,
In the history of submaritime operation, we haven’t lost one sub that didn’t accidentally exceed its max dive depth or wasn’t intentionally destroyed, until now
"Try to prevent similar tragedies from happening again." Try to find a way how to stop dangerous people like Stokton Rush.
ego sunk titanic . same fate to this for the same reason
ego didn’t sink the titanic… but it made sure there were not enough lifeboats.
@@claireconoverego was definitely involved when the titanic was trying to break a speed record to get to new york it was going30 knots .so ego definitely sank the titanic. .
"it was never supposed to be "safe"? That makes sense if no lives were going to be involved in the project.
Its sad but they knew if risk. 😢
Well no, the whole point is clearly the company was not operating anywhere near as professionally as they should have been so the passengers were misled.
I am still amazed just how much like a subnatica screenshot that wreckage looks like.
Can the media stop referring to paying customers as “mission specialists “
You would have to be insane to think that there wouldn't be any kind of danger getting into any submersible and going to visit a wreck 2 km underneath the ocean. I'm sure there was concerns about the thrasher and the scorpion and those were both government approved subs.
After the implosion they should have renamed it the Titan-ICK!!!!!
3.77 km That is very deep. A human would be crushed down to the size of a hotdog faster than an explosion. And seeing as they more than 3 times deeper than Henry's Law would require, at that depth the air inside of the vessel would not have even formed a bubble. Even the air itself would have been instantly absorbed into the water.
“With exploration, there is risk.” Okay but there is a difference between risk and recklessness. Stockton Rush’s hubris led these people to their death.
would the crew have heard loud noises of the carbon fibre hull started to fail prior to implosion?
Probably… something happened to have them need to drop the weights to go back up
Maybe they shouldn't have used that Logitech controller...
Ok as dumb as that was it had nothing to do with it imploding
@@whatyourname7748 I agree, but it goes to show the level of bondheaded decisions put into this sub.
(sigh)
The US Navy uses similar devices as an input device in some applications. The use of the Logitech controller was not "dumb", nor did it play into the demise of the vessel.
The only details required is anyone riding it was a fool.😊
Very Tragic 😢
This said nothing new
Well. It takes an implosion to start an investigation? No one bother to before or attempt to stop the operation? Loopholes from dive site in international water but no flagging of red flags from port of the uncertified sub operate from or where the company is based?
Can you all imagine if the CEO Stockton never dived that day and was still alive to this day.
He would have either been murdered or put on death row.
Yes, because obvioulsy we need an investigation in order to inform people that "with exploration, there is risk." Who knew????
Titan CEO Stockton Rush fired one of his engineers who wrote him a letter of concern on the reliability of the carbon fiber hull. Stockton was arrogant, naive, attention seeking, and put lives at risk for his “explorer” mindset.
Some Extra Salt in the Wound to use a Government Submarine to find and film the wreckage of a Libertarian Submarine that imploded due to ignoring Government regulations 😂
With exploration there is always risk. Give me a break. It had absolutely nothing to do with exploration. Talk about self delusional people.
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Of course it could have been prevented. Is that a sick joke.
I understand pushing limits, that has made humanity thrive thougout history. But we should never put peoples lives at risk to get there. oh and never get in a deep dive sub that is glued in place.
Bro that sub is little af..automatic hell noooo for me..yall going that deep to see the titanic naww thats suicidal ! R.i.p to them and all man but WTF were they thinking plus the straps holding it together WTF all that pressure under their cracked It right in half like an eggshell YIKERZ yikez
What is going with the two men's suits? Are smaller waists the new fashion?
Hi
Why take your son with you??? 😳
The son didn't want to go but went because he didn't want to let his father down on father's day
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I want to see the bodies. Has anybody seen the bodies? Did you see the bodies? I’m didn’t see them. Are they actually there? Did this really happen? Is god real? Did we land on the moon? Is there any other way to make cheese? If I eat nothing but kernel corn and drink only water, will I poo straight corn? These are the important questions we need answers to
The "experts" testifying are over emotional and barely understandable. How she can put it as "all exploration runs a risk" is disgusting and sad. Shame on her.
Still white color without algae or what.
This report really didn't reveal anything new other than 1 picture of video showing more. Otherwise, from day 1 people have been saying what was presented on this weak report.
most of the people on titanic that died were poor people. sure there spirits didnt like rich people messing over there grave
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It's terrible but it reminds me of the episode where myth busters built different things using duck tape!! What was rush thinking?? He would have been better off building the hull out of duct tape! It would have been strong but also had flexibility, I'm half joking and half serious!! What an insane asshole rush was !
1:00 Wtf?? Did he really just say 20 23?? How did no one catch that?
Believe that is correct.