@@milliechook7375 Basically like, okay fine, maybe you'll get sent off to some far away palace but he'll keep doing whatever he wants to do. That's the most unrealistic part about most of this. The way things were back then, he just did what he wanted and people had to kinda tolerate that no matter what.
Talk about a thinly veiled threat, haha. I was sad, that Ibrahim ultimately chose to not be loyal to Süleyman, though. I thought that being given such a clear ultimatum, might finally make him come around.
Haha! His mother pulled the old fake faint trick to rein him in. He isn't caring about it now. It is her own fault. She tried to execute Hurrem with Ibraham and ended up making him realize that he couldn't live without her. But looks like he can do without both of them as he subtlety warned them.
@@PatriciaXaramentally in this series she remained slave till the end and she even installed this mindset in her daughter. Can you imagine any of Suleiman's sisters allowing their husbands to treat them as Rustem treated Mihrimah?
Mahidevran looks like she's about to genuinely keel over and faint. Also the look on Suleiman's face as it changes from happiness at the solemnisation to the slow realisation that everyone is against his decision was masterfully done by the actor.
I think he is realising that Hurrem was correct when she told him of the concerted efforts against her personally. He is seeing it for himself - they can't even be happy that he is getting what he wanted, simply because it also makes Hurrem happy.
So if it is against tradition for sultans to marry, then aren't ALL his descendants illegitimate, and aren't all the ancestors and siblings also illegitimate, including Valide, Hatice, Huban, etc.?
It was against their tradition, not forbidden in the religion. Reason being that if the empire falls, no one captures legal wifes of the king, since there are none. That's what I've read.
I think that's the reason why his mother was against the marriage because in her time until before the arrival of Hurem marriage was never an intention of the reigning Sultans. In Hurem's time. Sulieman was so captivated and deeply inlove😂
I really don't understand Hürrem's feelings! How is it possible to feel love on one hand and on the other hand feel hate? Is it possible to full a heart with these strong feelings together? On one hand fell in love with Suleyman and on the other hand fooled him about everything and everyone!!
She was sure that she protected her new family. This wish to be strong was natural for woman that had lost her parents and brothers. Оf course, feeling of love doesn't exclude a lie, an anger and a hypocrisy.
@@Dr.RENUKADEVILoving isn't a strategy. That attitude is what's wrong with the world now. Real love is unconditional and does not seek things for itself, but for the good of the one it loves.
It wasn't about love at all, or hate, but survival. Luckily, as far as history is concerned, most of this stuff wasn't real and her journey was far more harmonious than this.
She didn't fool him at that time it's not like she could go to him and say his closest advisers a terrible person or that his mother and his other wife were trying to manipulate her and cause her harm. It was the wives jobs to keep him happy I'm going to him with every little thing that was going on would have been looked upon as worse than her handling the situation the way she did she actually spared Suleiman from the aggravation of having to deal with the people around him.
Mahidevran..menjadi istri raja tidak cukup hanya kecantikan tetapi harus cerdas,tegas dan loyality n punya wawasan tinggi untuk mendukung sang raja,anda tidak miliki itu anda harus terima kekalahan,hureem miliki semua itu pantas raja pilih hureem
Ok, but why did they use proxys for the ceremony? Instead of Suleiman & Hürrem, themselves,? I thought proxy was only used if either bride or groom is not physically available...
If you have watched the series and stories of their ancestors it was way far different. It only proves that when you have almost everything you can easily change everything as well. That's how powerful they believe they were😁
Mahidevran can't have her favourite man in the first place, still she wants him with other women. At least hurrem wont let any women near her favourite man. 😂😂
It's her way of getting revenge to Hurem. She wants to hurt her. Like how she got hurt as she is always claimed when Hurem arrives. For her the other women are better than Hurem. That's how hateful she was at Hurem
Valide sultan was a Crimean princes and her father married her with suleimans father sultan selim khan , sultans can have their harem besides their wife !! Suleiman married a commoner she is not a slave anymore cuzz he freed her so she is a free woman also a shehzade mother !
I am very confused with one thing about all this. Just who got the money for her. Usually it would be the father right? But she was a former slave. So does this mean that the person agreeing to the marriage got them or her?
It was her Haq Mahar; it is a woman's right when she gets married in Islamic law. She can demand anything reasonable from the man as her Haq Mahar, it could be money, land or property or anything that she sees fit. And no, the father doesn't get the money, whatever she demands she keeps it and nobody has any right over what she demands be it her husband or her father. But obviously, there is the law and then there are people who choose to follow it or not... in many cultures the father takes the money, or the in-laws take it back in some cultures .... But to answer your Question: Hurrem Got the money and she will keep it for herself!
The look he got on his face after his mother said "I'll disown you" like "Welp, guess you'll have to disown me then lol"
Did she really think that, if she did, anything would change for him?
@@milliechook7375 Basically like, okay fine, maybe you'll get sent off to some far away palace but he'll keep doing whatever he wants to do. That's the most unrealistic part about most of this. The way things were back then, he just did what he wanted and people had to kinda tolerate that no matter what.
"Even if she trips and falls, I'll blame it on you. You should know that." What a lovely smile he had on his face as he said that. :D
Too bad sultan really didn’t mean it or Ibrahim would have been dead a long time ago
@@susanparker9581 Spoiler alert - At least he reminded Ibrahim of those words after the harem riot.
Talk about a thinly veiled threat, haha.
I was sad, that Ibrahim ultimately chose to not be loyal to Süleyman, though. I thought that being given such a clear ultimatum, might finally make him come around.
My Fave is Gulfem telling Mahi how much she suffered. Because before Hurrem had dethroned Mahi. Mahi had dethroned Gulfem.
It's not just that. Gulfem had 2 kids with Suleiman before he became the Sultan, but they died. She is the one with real reasons to suffer.
I quest question why mahi had the only heir for so long @@PatriciaXara
nigar kalfa looks on so very proudly. hurrem was her student. she seems happy here. it's a shame they became enemies later.
That pink gown Hatice was wearing was gorgeous!
Haha! His mother pulled the old fake faint trick to rein him in. He isn't caring about it now. It is her own fault. She tried to execute Hurrem with Ibraham and ended up making him realize that he couldn't live without her. But looks like he can do without both of them as he subtlety warned them.
In real life Sulieman didn't marry Hurrem till his mother died, and she's the one that gave Hurrem to Sulieman!!
he married her the year before she died, but they didn't have a celebration until after she died.
@@catherineomondi7850
It is true. 👍👍👍
Why would this series has to change its sequence then?
What a perfect prison system: two slaves fighting over their master.
True. But at this point Hurrem was not a slave anymore, Suleiman had freed her.
@@PatriciaXaramentally in this series she remained slave till the end and she even installed this mindset in her daughter. Can you imagine any of Suleiman's sisters allowing their husbands to treat them as Rustem treated Mihrimah?
@@nielubieinceli Free or not, the Sultan could have her killed at any moment.
Mahidevran looks like she's about to genuinely keel over and faint. Also the look on Suleiman's face as it changes from happiness at the solemnisation to the slow realisation that everyone is against his decision was masterfully done by the actor.
I think he is realising that Hurrem was correct when she told him of the concerted efforts against her personally. He is seeing it for himself - they can't even be happy that he is getting what he wanted, simply because it also makes Hurrem happy.
Suleyman said to hurrem " the reason of my exsistence " it is the deep word by the heart of Suleyman to hurrem ❤
Hatice looked so beautiful and happy when she was pregnant 🥰
I did feel bad for Mahidevran though. Her heart was shattered.
I love cute smile of hurrem
True authentic joy of feeling loved
Congratulations Hurrem ❤❤❤
Ibrahim should have got on the Hurrem train. He may have lived longer.
💀
So if it is against tradition for sultans to marry, then aren't ALL his descendants illegitimate, and aren't all the ancestors and siblings also illegitimate, including Valide, Hatice, Huban, etc.?
???
That is also my question, so confused as they were Muslims
It was against their tradition, not forbidden in the religion. Reason being that if the empire falls, no one captures legal wifes of the king, since there are none. That's what I've read.
I think that's the reason why his mother was against the marriage because in her time until before the arrival of Hurem marriage was never an intention of the reigning Sultans. In Hurem's time. Sulieman was so captivated and deeply inlove😂
Suleiman did not listen to valide about marraige..
Mustafa and beyzid did not listen to suleiman
Funny how they used valide sultan apartment for the feast but with a different decoration, its so obvious haha
If you marry her I will disown you the kind of threat the backfires every time
I really don't understand Hürrem's feelings! How is it possible to feel love on one hand and on the other hand feel hate? Is it possible to full a heart with these strong feelings together? On one hand fell in love with Suleyman and on the other hand fooled him about everything and everyone!!
She was sure that she protected her new family. This wish to be strong was natural for woman that had lost her parents and brothers. Оf course, feeling of love doesn't exclude a lie, an anger and a hypocrisy.
@@Dr.RENUKADEVILoving isn't a strategy. That attitude is what's wrong with the world now. Real love is unconditional and does not seek things for itself, but for the good of the one it loves.
It wasn't about love at all, or hate, but survival. Luckily, as far as history is concerned, most of this stuff wasn't real and her journey was far more harmonious than this.
She is a gold digger
She didn't fool him at that time it's not like she could go to him and say his closest advisers a terrible person or that his mother and his other wife were trying to manipulate her and cause her harm. It was the wives jobs to keep him happy I'm going to him with every little thing that was going on would have been looked upon as worse than her handling the situation the way she did she actually spared Suleiman from the aggravation of having to deal with the people around him.
Best decision of Suleman ❤
THIS EPISODE IS EPIC 🥹
Mahidevran..menjadi istri raja tidak cukup hanya kecantikan tetapi harus cerdas,tegas dan loyality n punya wawasan tinggi untuk mendukung sang raja,anda tidak miliki itu anda harus terima kekalahan,hureem miliki semua itu pantas raja pilih hureem
Ok, but why did they use proxys for the ceremony? Instead of Suleiman & Hürrem, themselves,? I thought proxy was only used if either bride or groom is not physically available...
I wondered about this, too. It's a very odd tradition.
Because harem women arent supposed to be even looked at by other men ig
You can appoint a wakeel, a wali, a lawyer for solemnization of marriage.
This was all new traditions and it was only implemented since the Ottoman conquered Constantinople. There was never a Harem before
If you have watched the series and stories of their ancestors it was way far different. It only proves that when you have almost everything you can easily change everything as well. That's how powerful they believe they were😁
Mahidevran can't have her favourite man in the first place, still she wants him with other women. At least hurrem wont let any women near her favourite man. 😂😂
She only wants him with other women in order to lessen Hurrem's influence, and to hurt Hurrem.
It's her way of getting revenge to Hurem. She wants to hurt her. Like how she got hurt as she is always claimed when Hurem arrives. For her the other women are better than Hurem. That's how hateful she was at Hurem
Most beautiful scene❤
6:22 as always, mahidevran is after throne
Yup exactly right
What kind of nikkah is this?
Ancient rule had been broken since Valide Sultan became Valide Sultan ?
Sultan Suleyman mother wasn't a slave like Hurrem, a common women.
@@simonadumitrache6396 in real life, she was a slave.
Valide sultan was a Crimean princes and her father married her with suleimans father sultan selim khan , sultans can have their harem besides their wife !! Suleiman married a commoner she is not a slave anymore cuzz he freed her so she is a free woman also a shehzade mother !
I am very confused with one thing about all this. Just who got the money for her. Usually it would be the father right? But she was a former slave. So does this mean that the person agreeing to the marriage got them or her?
It was her Haq Mahar; it is a woman's right when she gets married in Islamic law. She can demand anything reasonable from the man as her Haq Mahar, it could be money, land or property or anything that she sees fit. And no, the father doesn't get the money, whatever she demands she keeps it and nobody has any right over what she demands be it her husband or her father. But obviously, there is the law and then there are people who choose to follow it or not... in many cultures the father takes the money, or the in-laws take it back in some cultures ....
But to answer your Question: Hurrem Got the money and she will keep it for herself!
Hurrem ist wunderschön.
Ich liebe sie Beide.
i am happy for you Hurrem, Great..
Hoje dia especial vida Nova alegria felicidade nao deixe ninguem tira la de Voces
These women! So funny 😂
Weißt du eigentlich das dein Sohn alt genug ist und selber seine Frau aussuchen möchte
Hahahaha hafsas, hatices and mahidevils face. From now on she outranks hatice and mahidevran!!!
Technically she would outrank hafsa too. Though they constantly have her coming below them in the show
@@joannalee4779 yes
15:34 та, дааааааааам! Глаза Махидевран😮
15:54 🔥🔥🔥 ибо не фиг с Сашкой тягаться!!!
Die Mutter ist ja unmöglich.
Valide threatening to disown Suleyman 😂. What can she do? Put Mustafa on the throne instead? Idiocy.