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Please stop making Egyptains white. I can not and will not watch any videos when you make Egyptians white. I grew up with the lie I will not tolerate it now as am adult. White supremacist bullshit has got to end!!!!!!!!!!!
More Eurocentric nonsense. So these photoshoped white people did not develop their civilization in Europe or Asia but came to Egypt and the Sudan deep in Africa to found their civilization? How believeable. These videos are a blatant attempt to steal black African history and civilizations. Europe will forever bear the dubiuos distinction as being the only continent in the world that did not develop its own indigenous ancient civilization. Reply
Have watched several videos from this channel about several historical figures. Each video is very enjoyable to watch and Mr. Jones narration style keeps me interested to the end. Will continue to watch. Maybe Mr. Ramesses mellowed out as he got older like most of us today. Experience is a great teacher in how to make the most of your days and for me at least I don't feel the need to rush through everything anymore. Take your time and have patience and you can accomplish anything you set your mind to.
@@Oldwhiteguy We are dumbed down by masons and through school systems and the IQ of humans increases not, because we are raised up with mindsets that governments of this world cares for us = feeds us, scolds us, clothe us and heal us. With this lie, we allow ourselves willingly to rely on them 100%. Not taking into account that it is a clear lie and the "caring" governments are seeing us as USELESS EATERS worthy of depopulation. thats why these 2 agendas of masons: lgbtq++ transhumanism George guide stone - is it already forgotten? they blowed it up, but still.... the plans on it are 100% at play. + all your entertainers (you tubers, singers, actors, politics) are in the same club, FREEMASONRY - keeping you dumb and fooling you day and night. Search about them, know how and why they deceive and then reprove them as bible calls us to do: Ephesians 5:11 And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them. Ephesians 6:12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places. + watching TV = being under MK ULTRA.
Oh I love Italy I am preparing to continue my postgraduate study there it's a great country rich in history and of course my beauty icon for me is the Italian monica Bellucci ❤❤
I just watched Secrets Of The Saqqara Toombs yesterday so I've been bingeing Egypt's history all weekend. I'm so happy you've posted this excellent video!
Not sure how many battles Ramses won but Thuthmose III won over 80 battles, he turned Egypt into true empire, Egypt borders extended from south of Sudan to western Libya and across the Euphrates to Anatolia in the north hes time was the pinnacle of the empire.. Ramses however saved Egypt from third intermediate period coming way sooner, we wouldn't know much about ancient Egypt if it wasnt for him, he made the country strong when it really needed to be. Other civilization who didnt survive the sea people and the ancient apocalypse, almost nothing is left of them.
According to top Egyptologists professors Bob Brier, Zahi Hawass and many other scholars the greatest Pharaohs of Ancient Egypt were Old Kingdom Snefru (Khufu’s father) Middle Kingdom Senusret III (Sesostris III in Greek) New Kingdom 18th Dynasty Tuthmoses III (the Napoleon of Ancient Egypt) whose enemies will just lay their weapons down when they knew he was coming, and 19th Dynasty New Kingdom General Horemheb… Honorable mentions are the founding brothers of the 18th Dynasty Ahmose and Kamose for driving the established invaders Hyksos out of Egypt forever and Seti I Ramesses own father for his building works and defending strategies. A note of honor and dedication was inscribed on Sesostris III tomb for starting the irrigation canals of the arid region in the Middle Kingdom this aside, he was a great warrior and conqueror, Thutmoses 3 worshipped/honored Sesostris in his temples and did his best to emulate and surpass his conquering deeds which he succeeded.
@@ashiinsane90 💯 x a million, Tuhmoses 3 was the greatest, the Napoleon of Ancient Egypt, his conquering prowess have no equal, his enemies will just lay down their weapons when he was marching through on his horse in front of his army, yet he was righteous and just with his enemies. He also had a deep interest in botanical 🌱 plants, which he would bring back to Egypt from his conquests.
Lovely narrators voice, clear and concise narrative giving facts and not waffle and assumptions. Thank you very much for such an important era of Egyptian history.
@@colinroach7815 he looked Egyptian, as they have their own ethnicity, and the muslims didn't create it. But his family is said to be originally from northern Egypt.
People who lived and breathed in the past are ever more fascinating. We cannot begin to fathom someone living 3000 + years ago. Could they have imagined the world we have today?
I think of that type of situations a lot. I feel like the people from his time period would probably go mentally insane and wouldn’t believe our world now 😂They can’t imagine this back then just like we can’t have an exact picture of what they experienced and saw back then. Just bits here n there
@@danfromtheburghI had this conversation with a few friends recently, it’s crazy that you could literally be king of the known world in 1300 BC and have less luxuries in life than someone today who earns 100k a year simply because those luxuries hadn’t been invented yet Something as simple as a microwave or a car would have been the desire of every king in the world if you took it back in time lol Makes you think how the average teenager will be living 5000 years from now, and I wonder what kind of technology they’ll have access to, and I wonder if they’ll see us how we see people who grew up in the early 1900s without colored TV or the internet lol
Very thorough video and I'm always impressed with this channel. I have an ear worm from a cartoon called, "Courage The Cowardly Dog". King Ramesses! The man in gauze, the man in gauze. King Ramesses! The man in... My 22 yr. old son admitted that ghost scared him to death when he was a boy.
I think his recorded success was due to the amount of time he was allowed and propaganda and the size of his family. Brilliant documentary one of the best I've seen yet
U have to understand that Ramses becoming a God was the very beginning of Judaism. Moses was from a family that worship the idol 'El'. The concept 'living god' was more like a retaliation and a system of intended disrespect to the pharaohs authorities. Rastafari did the same to the British, colonialism, fascism, in the 30s then they proclaimed Selassie to be King of Kings and a living god.
honestly, if you examine yourself, do you have any means of determining that this video is well researched aside that the calm soothing matter of fact voice sounds confident? You do not... this applies to many things and many share your mistaken assumptions.
Recently discovered this channel and I have been just binging everything as the narration style is very engaging and I have a passion for long form content (particularly historical content). Watched all the videos on the WW2 German figures and really excited for this! :D
This is one of the very best documentaries I've ever watched on Ramses II. I can say actually is the best, for the accuracy and not bios speculations. Thank you.
Great documentary (thanks for this); my only qualm is that the section where you note Ramesses' construction works at Saqqara is slightly erroneous; the Serapeum was not a Temple of Serapis at this time (as Serapis is a later Hellenistic syncretic deity) but at the time was a place for the Apis bull or wsjr-ḥp/Osiris-Apis - Serapis is later conflated with this deity (as well as Osiris and others) so the mistake is understandable. Keep up the great work lads!
@@josephphoenix1376 Just such an amazing person to be person in the presence of such a great and powerful man. I could sit there for an hour without another person interrupting. It gives me great pleasure that he ended up back in the home of his people.
The people of Africa where known at time by the Ancient Greeks as people who had the longest life spans , go research it for yourselves , the Ancient Greeks documented it many times
@@Taharqo.saved.the.Hebrew They had longer lifespans than others at the time, but it’s not like it was anywhere near ours, and CERTAINLY not as long as Rameses at 91. The highest estimates is that the Egyptians lived until 45, which would have been AMAZING to the Greeks/Romans, who only lived to 25.
The Egyptians ate well due to the immense productivity of the Nile River. In Roman times they produced so much surplus that it was sufficient to help feed a million Romans. In anycase Ramesses lifespan was extraordinary
His age is awesome but you've got to remember that when you hear got the average age was around 40 you've got to remember that half of all humans born died before their first birthday and that greatly excuses the statistic if you lived past your first birthday the average age was about 65
@@syedabbas7739 Egyptians conquered the ancient known world for yeears.. and thats according to Greeks. Heroduts Said that Senusret III conquered Europe..
The research of which Pharoah is in exodus is facinating. There's a good case for an earlier pharaoh, based on how the hyksos invade after the famine, the memory of what the hykos did causing racism and enslavement, and note your mention of the couple of pre-ramesese kings who seemed to build less. There is also a pharaoh mentioned in the time of the Israelite Kings, which can aide a time hypothesis. Akhenaten is a possible post-israel pharaoh, who saw what the israelite god did and wanted to turn the people towards that god, using the best diety proxy available. And i think theres also something about how the 18th dynasty started or Akenaten himself, being not the firstborn of the previous pharaoh. And finally, the Babylonia/medes rise must join Israel's history. The temple rebuild is dated, and can help guide researchers. It's all facinating.
Not facinating at all which one the writers of a fairytale chose to include in their fairytale story. There is no historical evidence that THE israelites where ever enslaved nor set free in Egypt. None. The egypt writings also dont mention any god or any plagues that lead to the freeing of people which weren't there in the first place. It's a fairytale book.
No he wasn't. Egyptian writings never mentioned a flood that drowned everybody. Also the Chinese never mentioned it and lived on. The bible is a fairytale book@@Thisfutureman
@@ThisfuturemanExodus only says the “army of pharaoh” was drowned, not the pharaoh himself. The movie Ten Commandments accounts for this by having Pharoah stand back and watch while he sends his army into the midst of the waters
I cant say that he is, because his country was so successful great (bronze age egypt) prior to him and his rule. Show a ruler who brought absolute land of nothing into greatness, than thats something.
@@ashiinsane90 No. I think the commercialised Hollywood is far away from the actual historical truth about the Ramesses lineage. But from listening to various Historical scholars and egyptologists it gives that image that there is something dark lurking over there. And ofcourse there is the Ozzymandiaz poem by Percy...so. Not making final claims but there is plenty to be Unearthed about the past Civilizations that are in ruins today of which we know diddly squat.
Seti I was probably the best father EVER! For a start, he made his son regent, provided him with a palace to suit his status as crown prince and regent. But, best of all, he also gave him a harem. Ramses was still a teen at the time, I believe. Imagine, you're barely out of your teen years and your dad matter-of-factly gives you a harem as a 'gift'?! Like I said, best father EVER! 🤣🤣🤣
@@charlottebruce979 May have? If you have any factual evidence, then I'm all ears. Otherwise, it's all conjecture. Did some royal Egyptians marry their sisters on occasion? Yes. That is a fact, backed up with proof. Let's go a step further and ask would a royal princess be placed in the harem of their brother? I doubt it. It wasn't their function in Egyptian society. Finally, let me point I told a light-hearted joke about a historical figure who was alive just over 3000 years ago. A joke. Like, what teen wouldn't want that? Would I make the same joke if it happened in our modern society? Absolutely not. It was a different time, with different standards. I can't look upon ancient history with modern eyes and pass judgement based on my standards. But, I can make a joke, without judgement. Have a great day.
@Duncan Disorderly Many historical facts are conjecture. You have to use logical conclusions in many cases based on how a society functions. Tutankhamuns mother, possibly Kia, Akhenatens wife and sister, would have been placed in a harem along with his other wives. Royal harems were not just for concubines. These royal harems would have included Egyptian women and their children, and large numbers of foreigners married by the Egyptian king in order to establish diplomatic links outside of Egypt. So, not the sexual free for all you were hoping for, but women of high standing and kids too.
@@charlottebruce979 There's a distinct difference between a harem of royal wives, mothers and sisters, in comparison to a harem of woman for pleasure alone. My hopes for a sexual free for all? I don't recall expressing my hopes on the topic, apart from making a joke. A joke isn't about hopes, it's about a light-hearted laugh. Clearly, you're taking this far too seriously and jumping to wild, baseless, conclusions. This would also suggest why you see conjecture as a fact. It appears you want to debate the topic. I'm sorry, I don't wish to debate what was meant as a joke and won't continue replying. Good-bye.
Ramses II is particularly interesting to me for many reasons. Firstly. We share similar names (Ramsay) and secondly his proclamation of greatness from the very beginning of his reign. Similarly to US and Russia, Egypt and the Hittites were antagonists for over 2 centuries. They had several skirmishes throughout the time. But Ramses wanted to bring it to an end.
That wasn't his name that's the name the Greeks have him centuries after his death , Egypt wasn't even a word know to the Ancient Egyptians the land was known to them as Kemet , and they called themselves the kemetu even all the the cites where renamed into Greek names
Eu estou aqui,existe vida após a morte e vc reencarna e outros lugares do planeta ou em outras existências é como uma roda Samsara budista ,uma hora vc está no alto da vida e em outra vida vc é uma simples pessoa ,um pai de família vivendo uma vida simples !
@@liukang3545And he won most if not all of his other battles. We know that since thats why Ancient egypt survived the Catastrophic BA Collapse (tho weakened) on the adjacent mediterranean, and not the hittite empire or the greeks or the sea peoples nor anyone else (assyrians not as near to the mediterranean as the others) survived it.
“So this day We shall deliver your (dead) body (out from the sea) that you may be a sign to those who come after you! And verily, many among mankind are heedless of Our Ayaat” [Yoonus 10:92]
So many fascinating details about Pharoah Ramases II is mentioned in the Koran even how he died from drowning & his body being preserved. Alhamdulilah ❤️.
Ramesses didn't die of drowing and for all respect to Koran, but it can't be historical source about Ramesses life. It was written ntwo thousand years after he died.
Maurice Bucaille was the professor who auscultated the mummy of Ramses 2 in Paris. He went to the great mosque in Cairo to discuss with the Imam, he converted to Islam Al hamdulillah
Pi-Ramesses was the new capital built by the Nineteenth Dynasty Pharaoh Ramesses II at Qantir, near the old site of Avaris. The city had served as a summer palace under Seti I, and may have been founded by Ramesses I while he served under Horemheb. Jai shree Ram, ❤️ Ram ka naam har jagh hai
Fascinating video! While I agree that his fame has contributed to a lot of the speculation about him being the pharoah of the Exodus, I also with the Merneptah stele (made by his successor) appearing to mention Israel.
The Exodus has been thoroughly debunked and no scholars worth their degree buy into it.They have never found any chariots,horse skeletons,remains of Egyptian soldiers,or weapons etc in the red sea.Even William Dever dismissed it decades ago and the lack of written evidence not to mention material evidence is astounding
@@Texasmade74 I'm super not interested in a religious debate with you. It's just incorrect to claim as the video appears to that we have no idea why people think he was the pharoah of the Exodus. Regardless of what one thinks of the truth of the Exodus.
I certainly concur 100% but Ahkenathen's reign lasted only 17 to 17.5 years, not enough to put a dent in a civilization that pre-dated him for more than 1,747 years, he tried hard though, but moving the capital away from Thebes to Amarna and worshipping the Sun Aten must have been a pain in the gluteus maximus for every person that had to follow him. when Tut came into power he immediately restored back all the O'l gods and gave the priesthood their positions once again, Amarna did not last.
@Alain Delon I know I know. But you can see the ripples that it caused in Egypt, even if his son restored the old gods. Just musing on the number of times Akhenaten was mentioned in the video.
@@RobbyL 😆 Yeap Robby, some things never die indeed. BTW everyone makes a case for Rameses prowesses, but he was more of a great builder and pr man for his own glory, even his only big battle against the Hittites ended up with an impasse. You know who I consider fantastic Egyptians pharaohs Robby? in my humble research and for their achievements 12 dynasty Sesostris III & 18th dynasty Thutmose III and tough separated by hundreds of years their deeds of greatness are similar, it is said that Thutmos III did his best to emulate and even surpass his predecessor, I think both of these men were amazing in every aspect. Now if could only forget that ☀️ worshipper wanker I’d feel better, but he keeps popping up in my nightmares here and there 🤣 best regards Robby…cheers 🥂 to the land of the Nile.
It is illuminating somehow. Muchos Gracias to the high cheecky bone face, in the modern period - evolution may have changed what they were before, interesting piece of history that may resonate to some places and events. My wonder is why fate never took me to visit this place while I had visited and lived other countries but one memory of an Egyptian lady who came to our table while sat down eating our snacks and introduced herself; makes me wonder about many things. Thank you.
People lack knowledge of the Ancient Egyptians, as they lasted for 3000 years. That's a longer time between the birth of Jesus until today; it puts things in perspective as to how powerful and successful Ancient Egypt was.
@tsa3b Not true. There are Egyptians who have ancient Egyptian genes, and they are many. There are Egyptians who have Arabic and Greek genes, and all of them, without exception, are Egyptians.
@tsa3b No, you said that only a small percentage are Egyptians, and this is the fault of the Egyptian people. They were not exterminated or displaced from their country and Egyptians are not Arabs. The people of the Arabian Peninsula are different from us in dialect, customs and traditions
@@ashrafosama2406They only get that DNA from the subsequent invasions of Egypt towards the end of the dynastic periods. That's like saying ancient Americans were all Europeans or the melting pot of races it is today. 8,000-10,000 years ago, this would be a bold-faced lie. Same with Ancient Kemet...the Indigenous people were native African, period.
I remember the commercial regarding the exhibit of the Pharoah kinggs,The meta Work and we'll documented culture of ancient Egypt,. I often what the library of Alexandria could reveal,burned out, we must protect history by all means,your very fortunate to have seen that exhibit,great excuse to skip school,?😊😊
What's the movie/show called that this video uses clips of with the Pharoah's, Mosses being sent down river and other story related video clips because I've seen bits and pieces of it over the years on random channels videos but never found out what the shows title was in order to search it up to watch the full video, I know it's an older production but it's supposed to be quite interesting and informative 😊 ... last but not least, I thank whoever knows the show title ahead of time as only a response to this comment will notify me of any knowledge surrounding the movie/show title 😮😊
And what of Nefertiti? I’m fortunate to know her details and like every good king there’s a far more formidable Queen and Goddess behind him. Arkenarten took the Lion’s share of the monotheistic concept, but Nefertiti was the first person to come up with this concept. And in doing so one could, and I dearly do see the Queen and Faroe as the Very First Daughter Of the one God. And I know they have their differences but she deserves far more respect than these trivial documentaries give her. What an absolutely beautiful woman whose intellect would cumble cities.
Whatever you say weirdo. Nefertiti. Best pharaoh of any pharaoh. Smartest lady ever. Direct descendant of a god or gods. Able to crumble entire cities with her mind. Yet almost nothing is known of her and she has zero impact on historical record behind her name. Even in historical records, people try to steal the glories and deeds of well known and recorded male pharaohs to give unearned accolades on random ass females.
Could you guys maybe do franz Joseph Marshal Tito Slobodan milosevic Richard Wagner Bach Beethoven Mozart Igor Stravinsky John Williams But Wagner would be so interesting
Rameses was supposedly my distant ancestor via my maternal grandfather Capell's paternal early lineage. One of my Capell ancestors married the daughter of the Earl of ArundeI. The House of Arundel are descendants of Rameses. I made this discovery years ago when studying my mother's family genealogy. I have always wanted to visit Egypt long before I knew I found out about the family connection.
Ancient Egypt is my favourite period of time. they were clever, sophisticated, organised, and stunningly beautiful people. At the same time, in Britain, where I come from, we were living in primative dwellings and did not have a systematic form of government. You can not compare the two.
This is an excellent documentary. Thank you so much! One comment: it seems that the information presented regarding the Hebrews' enslavement in Egypt is taken solely from the Old Testament. I am mentioning this because there is little or no historical evidence about Hebrews ever having been in Egypt or having been enslaved, etc. It's possible of course, but it's important to realize that religious scripture is not reliable historical evidence in and of itself. If there is no historical record of Moses being placed in a basket, the killing of Hebrew infants, the parting of the Red Sea, etc., it should be mentioned that there is no historical record to support these alleged events.
Yup, Ramases had a big hook nose. He had over 100 kids. Today, he must have millions of descendants. So anyone with a big hookey... You could well be descendants of the mighty Ramases.
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Please stop making Egyptains white. I can not and will not watch any videos when you make Egyptians white. I grew up with the lie I will not tolerate it now as am adult. White supremacist bullshit has got to end!!!!!!!!!!!
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More Eurocentric nonsense. So these photoshoped white people did not develop their civilization in Europe or Asia but came to Egypt and the Sudan deep in Africa to found their civilization? How believeable. These videos are a blatant attempt to steal black African history and civilizations. Europe will forever bear the dubiuos distinction as being the only continent in the world that did not develop its own indigenous ancient civilization.
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Could listen to this voice for ever... thank you so much for these awesome professional documentaries.
Have watched several videos from this channel about several historical figures. Each video is very enjoyable to watch and Mr. Jones narration style keeps me interested to the end. Will continue to watch. Maybe Mr. Ramesses mellowed out as he got older like most of us today. Experience is a great teacher in how to make the most of your days and for me at least I don't feel the need to rush through everything anymore. Take your time and have patience and you can accomplish anything you set your mind to.
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@@Oldwhiteguy We are dumbed down by masons and through school systems and the IQ of humans increases not, because we are raised up with mindsets that governments of this world cares for us = feeds us, scolds us, clothe us and heal us. With this lie, we allow ourselves willingly to rely on them 100%.
Not taking into account that it is a clear lie and the "caring" governments are seeing us as USELESS EATERS worthy of depopulation.
thats why these 2 agendas of masons:
lgbtq++
transhumanism
George guide stone - is it already forgotten?
they blowed it up, but still....
the plans on it are 100% at play.
+ all your entertainers (you tubers, singers, actors, politics) are in the same club, FREEMASONRY - keeping you dumb and fooling you day and night.
Search about them, know how and why they deceive and then reprove them as bible calls us to do:
Ephesians 5:11
And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them.
Ephesians 6:12
For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.
+ watching TV = being under MK ULTRA.
Beautiful comment
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Oh I love Italy I am preparing to continue my postgraduate study there it's a great country rich in history and of course my beauty icon for me is the Italian monica Bellucci ❤❤
I love italy, were directly in line on the correct AXIS so we uhhhhhh ya know....ya....
Egypt and prince always loved the great Moses. Never stopped.
@@shawnbunn4966 never heard of her
As a history buff, I really appreciate how this documentary covers lesser-known aspects of ancient civilizations. Brilliant work!
It is amazing that one can still see Rameses mummy and clearly his face in the museum in Cairo!
I just watched Secrets Of The Saqqara Toombs yesterday so I've been bingeing Egypt's history all weekend. I'm so happy you've posted this excellent video!
Ya bukan tajuk dia..fikir
Ramesses ll was truly and genuinely the titan of ancient Egypt.This was riveting and enlightening. Another superb effort.
Not sure how many battles Ramses won but Thuthmose III won over 80 battles, he turned Egypt into true empire, Egypt borders extended from south of Sudan to western Libya and across the Euphrates to Anatolia in the north hes time was the pinnacle of the empire.. Ramses however saved Egypt from third intermediate period coming way sooner, we wouldn't know much about ancient Egypt if it wasnt for him, he made the country strong when it really needed to be. Other civilization who didnt survive the sea people and the ancient apocalypse, almost nothing is left of them.
Thutmose 3 was greater in my opinion
Umm, Thutmoses III has a huge claim to make.
According to top Egyptologists professors Bob Brier, Zahi Hawass and many other scholars the greatest Pharaohs of Ancient Egypt were Old Kingdom Snefru (Khufu’s father) Middle Kingdom Senusret III (Sesostris III in Greek) New Kingdom 18th Dynasty Tuthmoses III (the Napoleon of Ancient Egypt) whose enemies will just lay their weapons down when they knew he was coming, and 19th Dynasty New Kingdom General Horemheb…
Honorable mentions are the founding brothers of the 18th Dynasty Ahmose and Kamose for driving the established invaders Hyksos out of Egypt forever and Seti I Ramesses own father for his building works and defending strategies.
A note of honor and dedication was inscribed on Sesostris III tomb for starting the irrigation canals of the arid region in the Middle Kingdom this aside, he was a great warrior and conqueror, Thutmoses 3 worshipped/honored Sesostris in his temples and did his best to emulate and surpass his conquering deeds which he succeeded.
@@ashiinsane90 💯 x a million, Tuhmoses 3 was the greatest, the Napoleon of Ancient Egypt, his conquering prowess have no equal, his enemies will just lay down their weapons when he was marching through on his horse in front of his army, yet he was righteous and just with his enemies.
He also had a deep interest in botanical 🌱 plants, which he would bring back to Egypt from his conquests.
Fantastic timing! Thank you for the video, I look forward to this one, as an avid Egyptophile
Lovely narrators voice, clear and concise narrative giving facts and not waffle and assumptions. Thank you very much for such an important era of Egyptian history.
Agreed Note
Always great to learn about this time in history and great to fall asleep listening to 🙂🏴
Certainly one of the greatest Kings of History that ever lived. Marvelous upload!💯
And the greastet sinner and hell dweller.dont praise such cursed ppl
Excellent narrative by Rob Jones. I’ll never forget I was in awe as I looked on Ramses when he was at Los Angeles museum.
If you write alot you can never ve forgotten even in death you still remain alive, that's exactly what Ramases did
i have a video for more inf about Ramesses 2
Did he look like an Arab or an African ?
Colin roach. He looked human. What difference does it make.
@@colinroach7815 he looked Egyptian, as they have their own ethnicity, and the muslims didn't create it. But his family is said to be originally from northern Egypt.
People who lived and breathed in the past are ever more fascinating. We cannot begin to fathom someone living 3000 + years ago. Could they have imagined the world we have today?
Imagine how dull theyd feel compared to how the world is today
@@danfromtheburghnot the ones who fought in battles
I think of that type of situations a lot. I feel like the people from his time period would probably go mentally insane and wouldn’t believe our world now 😂They can’t imagine this back then just like we can’t have an exact picture of what they experienced and saw back then. Just bits here n there
@@danfromtheburghI had this conversation with a few friends recently, it’s crazy that you could literally be king of the known world in 1300 BC and have less luxuries in life than someone today who earns 100k a year simply because those luxuries hadn’t been invented yet
Something as simple as a microwave or a car would have been the desire of every king in the world if you took it back in time lol
Makes you think how the average teenager will be living 5000 years from now, and I wonder what kind of technology they’ll have access to, and I wonder if they’ll see us how we see people who grew up in the early 1900s without colored TV or the internet lol
@@MrBubblecake bro you could apply that same statement to someone living in the 19th, or even 20th century
Thank you! I have been lucky to see the Ramses 11 tour when it was touring the USA. I have been in awe of this pharaoh for a very long time.
Really interesting video! It's pretty cool to have so much detail about someone who lived 3000+ years ago. Ram2 had one hell of a PR campaign!!
And ram2 got defeated by the real God
Very thorough video and I'm always impressed with this channel.
I have an ear worm from a cartoon called, "Courage The Cowardly Dog".
King Ramesses! The man in gauze, the man in gauze. King Ramesses! The man in...
My 22 yr. old son admitted that ghost scared him to death when he was a boy.
I think his recorded success was due to the amount of time he was allowed and propaganda and the size of his family. Brilliant documentary one of the best I've seen yet
Says "Audrey Kane the Mediocre" NOTICE NOT THE GREAT?!? like someone else...mmhmmm*cough* Ramses *Cough* 😏
@@BS-qg4ep says the un named mediocre child who will die alone
@@BS-qg4ep ....... I will not trust someone who call himself God because that is so narcissistic
U have to understand that Ramses becoming a God was the very beginning of Judaism. Moses was from a family that worship the idol 'El'. The concept 'living god' was more like a retaliation and a system of intended disrespect to the pharaohs authorities. Rastafari did the same to the British, colonialism, fascism, in the 30s then they proclaimed Selassie to be King of Kings and a living god.
Thank you for creating this video. I love the combination of history, music, and knowledge.
Love Always,
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Very well researched & written piece. Well done! Thankyou for your hard work.
honestly, if you examine yourself, do you have any means of determining that this video is well researched aside that the calm soothing matter of fact voice sounds confident? You do not... this applies to many things and many share your mistaken assumptions.
Recently discovered this channel and I have been just binging everything as the narration style is very engaging and I have a passion for long form content (particularly historical content). Watched all the videos on the WW2 German figures and really excited for this! :D
Same. Love these videos.
Let the legend come to life!
Great for listening to at work! The background music and narrator's voice provide an easy and soothing experience that'll calm anyone's anxiety.
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This is one of the very best documentaries I've ever watched on Ramses II. I can say actually is the best, for the accuracy and not bios speculations. Thank you.
Thank you for this. Your histories are amazing and very enlightening. You make my love of history easy. Thank you.
These people are fkn LIARS & you believe this? 😭
I loved this episode, keep them coming. I can never get enough
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I liked that moment.
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Loved the video. Learned a lot from it. Thank you.
Love these documentaries - great to listen to in the day and to fall asleep to at night!
Notebeing a scholar I could not comment on Ramsey accomplishments. But am grateful for your presentation!!!
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Brilliant documentary - Thank You!! 👏👏👏👏
Love to see one about Queen Nefertiti! LOVE THE VIDEOS! 💚💚💚💚💚
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Great documentary (thanks for this); my only qualm is that the section where you note Ramesses' construction works at Saqqara is slightly erroneous; the Serapeum was not a Temple of Serapis at this time (as Serapis is a later Hellenistic syncretic deity) but at the time was a place for the Apis bull or wsjr-ḥp/Osiris-Apis - Serapis is later conflated with this deity (as well as Osiris and others) so the mistake is understandable.
Keep up the great work lads!
Thank you for showing me some love 💯🙏
Very informative video, love the work that goes into all this channel gives us history lovers.
I recall skipping school and driving to Niagara falls to a museum that used to hold the god king's mummy.
@@Nine_9s amazing coincidence, there is a great NOVA episode that tells the story. "The Mummy Who Would Be King"
You skipped school to go on an educational excursion? Mad respect!
That was his grandfather Rameses the 1st! His mummy was repatriated to Egypt!
@@josephphoenix1376 Just such an amazing person to be person in the presence of such a great and powerful man. I could sit there for an hour without another person interrupting. It gives me great pleasure that he ended up back in the home of his people.
You must have been dreaming
There are many wonderful stories in ancient Egypt, I like to read the history of Egypt
Excellent!
He must have been a very formidable man to have lived for that long in that time period.
Agreed, 91when he passed
Or to be remembered all these years later
The people of Africa where known at time by the Ancient Greeks as people who had the longest life spans , go research it for yourselves , the Ancient Greeks documented it many times
@@Taharqo.saved.the.Hebrew They had longer lifespans than others at the time, but it’s not like it was anywhere near ours, and CERTAINLY not as long as Rameses at 91. The highest estimates is that the Egyptians lived until 45, which would have been AMAZING to the Greeks/Romans, who only lived to 25.
The Egyptians ate well due to the immense productivity of the Nile River. In Roman times they produced so much surplus that it was sufficient to help feed a million Romans. In anycase Ramesses lifespan was extraordinary
King Ramses! The man in gauze, the man in gauze.
A wonderful video, well written and very interesting and educational! Thank you,,,, Patricia Gambino Harrington
Well done, thank you.
This accent history of egypt is amazing as god creativity.
It is something that everyone really should acknowledge it thank you for the document
Always so fascinating !!!!
As someone who lived to the unheard-of age of 91, Ramesses indeed would have seemed like a god in the eyes of the average Egyptian.
His age is awesome but you've got to remember that when you hear got the average age was around 40 you've got to remember that half of all humans born died before their first birthday and that greatly excuses the statistic if you lived past your first birthday the average age was about 65
Yes he was the greatest pharaoh as many believe of that
And you S well thank you for such a wonderful video
The greatest history of Ancient agent very knowledgeable video
Yes! the greatest Pharaoh of ancient egypt!
Ramesses was truly one of the greatest rulers of the ancient world.
Seriously? Alexander the Great would disagree.
@@lindaname9413 Ramesses ruled twice as long as Alexander lived.
@@dv2033 WEll, that and $2.25 will get you a cup of Starbucks. LOLOLOL.
@@dv2033 he ruled twice as long as Alexander lived but Alexander conquered the known world by before he died 😂😂😂
@@syedabbas7739 Egyptians conquered the ancient known world for yeears.. and thats according to Greeks. Heroduts Said that Senusret III conquered Europe..
The research of which Pharoah is in exodus is facinating.
There's a good case for an earlier pharaoh, based on how the hyksos invade after the famine, the memory of what the hykos did causing racism and enslavement, and note your mention of the couple of pre-ramesese kings who seemed to build less.
There is also a pharaoh mentioned in the time of the Israelite Kings, which can aide a time hypothesis.
Akhenaten is a possible post-israel pharaoh, who saw what the israelite god did and wanted to turn the people towards that god, using the best diety proxy available. And i think theres also something about how the 18th dynasty started or Akenaten himself, being not the firstborn of the previous pharaoh.
And finally, the Babylonia/medes rise must join Israel's history. The temple rebuild is dated, and can help guide researchers.
It's all facinating.
Evacrevasa
Not facinating at all which one the writers of a fairytale chose to include in their fairytale story. There is no historical evidence that THE israelites where ever enslaved nor set free in Egypt. None. The egypt writings also dont mention any god or any plagues that lead to the freeing of people which weren't there in the first place. It's a fairytale book.
This cant be the the pharao of the bible and jews, he was drowned
No he wasn't. Egyptian writings never mentioned a flood that drowned everybody. Also the Chinese never mentioned it and lived on. The bible is a fairytale book@@Thisfutureman
@@ThisfuturemanExodus only says the “army of pharaoh” was drowned, not the pharaoh himself. The movie Ten Commandments accounts for this by having Pharoah stand back and watch while he sends his army into the midst of the waters
Thanks for informative episode and good and correct narration of the history
"Return the slab or suffer my curse"
-King Ramesses
Eustus😂😂😂
He was a god😂😂😂
That was great thank you
You could argue that he's one of the greatest ruler in history.
And we got Brandon.
Not really
@@scottdahl1938 lmao
I cant say that he is, because his country was so successful great (bronze age egypt) prior to him and his rule.
Show a ruler who brought absolute land of nothing into greatness, than thats something.
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Ramesses the Great -- Look on his Works, ye Mighty, and despair!
Wasnt he a brutal tyrant?
@@panderingpanda4770 ah ofcourse he was, according to the mummy movies right?
@@ashiinsane90 No. I think the commercialised Hollywood is far away from the actual historical truth about the Ramesses lineage. But from listening to various Historical scholars and egyptologists it gives that image that there is something dark lurking over there. And ofcourse there is the Ozzymandiaz poem by Percy...so. Not making final claims but there is plenty to be Unearthed about the past Civilizations that are in ruins today of which we know diddly squat.
@@panderingpanda4770 😊😊
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"My name is Ozymandias, king of kings: Look on my works, ye Mighty, and despair!"
Maybe Kadesh was the first “world war” of its time, both in effect and hype. I love when history proves our modern time is not so unique .
WooHoo! I love the last hack! That will help my work immensely!!!
Seti I was probably the best father EVER! For a start, he made his son regent, provided him with a palace to suit his status as crown prince and regent. But, best of all, he also gave him a harem. Ramses was still a teen at the time, I believe.
Imagine, you're barely out of your teen years and your dad matter-of-factly gives you a harem as a 'gift'?! Like I said, best father EVER! 🤣🤣🤣
Not great for the women, though, and some of them may have been his own sisters.
@@charlottebruce979 May have? If you have any factual evidence, then I'm all ears. Otherwise, it's all conjecture.
Did some royal Egyptians marry their sisters on occasion? Yes. That is a fact, backed up with proof. Let's go a step further and ask would a royal princess be placed in the harem of their brother? I doubt it. It wasn't their function in Egyptian society.
Finally, let me point I told a light-hearted joke about a historical figure who was alive just over 3000 years ago. A joke. Like, what teen wouldn't want that?
Would I make the same joke if it happened in our modern society? Absolutely not. It was a different time, with different standards. I can't look upon ancient history with modern eyes and pass judgement based on my standards. But, I can make a joke, without judgement.
Have a great day.
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@Duncan Disorderly Many historical facts are conjecture. You have to use logical conclusions in many cases based on how a society functions. Tutankhamuns mother, possibly Kia, Akhenatens wife and sister, would have been placed in a harem along with his other wives. Royal harems were not just for concubines. These royal harems would have included Egyptian women and their children, and large numbers of foreigners married by the Egyptian king in order to establish diplomatic links outside of Egypt. So, not the sexual free for all you were hoping for, but women of high standing and kids too.
@@charlottebruce979 There's a distinct difference between a harem of royal wives, mothers and sisters, in comparison to a harem of woman for pleasure alone.
My hopes for a sexual free for all? I don't recall expressing my hopes on the topic, apart from making a joke. A joke isn't about hopes, it's about a light-hearted laugh. Clearly, you're taking this far too seriously and jumping to wild, baseless, conclusions. This would also suggest why you see conjecture as a fact.
It appears you want to debate the topic. I'm sorry, I don't wish to debate what was meant as a joke and won't continue replying. Good-bye.
Good explaining
Ramses II is particularly interesting to me for many reasons. Firstly. We share similar names (Ramsay) and secondly his proclamation of greatness from the very beginning of his reign. Similarly to US and Russia, Egypt and the Hittites were antagonists for over 2 centuries. They had several skirmishes throughout the time. But Ramses wanted to bring it to an end.
We know Rameses' genetic markers by the way.
That wasn't his name that's the name the Greeks have him centuries after his death , Egypt wasn't even a word know to the Ancient Egyptians the land was known to them as Kemet , and they called themselves the kemetu even all the the cites where renamed into Greek names
@@Taharqo.saved.the.HebrewNo, Ozymandias is the name the Greeks gave him. Rameses was his actual Regnal name
Eu estou aqui,existe vida após a morte e vc reencarna e outros lugares do planeta ou em outras existências é como uma roda Samsara budista ,uma hora vc está no alto da vida e em outra vida vc é uma simples pessoa ,um pai de família vivendo uma vida simples !
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Still the best channel going; Well done#####
Thank you for video, history of ancient Egypt!I toured all 5hose sites!! It was my life's dream 💕
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A wonderful watch. Id love you to cover the first kings of egypt
Have read many depictions of the battle of Kadesh, one of if not the most well documented battlefield engagements in antiquity.
thats pure propaganda hahahahaaahaha
he lost that battle lmao
@@liukang3545And he won most if not all of his other battles. We know that since thats why Ancient egypt survived the Catastrophic BA Collapse (tho weakened) on the adjacent mediterranean, and not the hittite empire or the greeks or the sea peoples nor anyone else (assyrians not as near to the mediterranean as the others) survived it.
Thanks 🙏 GREAT VIDEO
“So this day We shall deliver your (dead) body (out from the sea) that you may be a sign to those who come after you! And verily, many among mankind are heedless of Our Ayaat”
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Great commentator voice and pace.
So many fascinating details about Pharoah Ramases II is mentioned in the Koran even how he died from drowning & his body being preserved. Alhamdulilah ❤️.
Ramesses didn't die of drowing and for all respect to Koran, but it can't be historical source about Ramesses life. It was written ntwo thousand years after he died.
Maurice Bucaille was the professor who auscultated the mummy of Ramses 2 in Paris. He went to the great mosque in Cairo to discuss with the Imam, he converted to Islam Al hamdulillah
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Pi-Ramesses was the new capital built by the Nineteenth Dynasty Pharaoh Ramesses II at Qantir, near the old site of Avaris. The city had served as a summer palace under Seti I, and may have been founded by Ramesses I while he served under Horemheb. Jai shree Ram, ❤️ Ram ka naam har jagh hai
Jai Shree Ram 🚩 islam ka ho kaam tamaam
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Beautiful, thx u ❤
Would love to know more about who kept him alive for so long
Luck, good genes, and a fairly healthy diet, he is the absolute exception for those times. Most were dead by forty.
@@charlottebruce979 no such thing as luck.
@@JordanWallace-nb4id Luck is everything you can't control how long you live healthy or not!
@@natashabegley1346 God is in control
@@JordanWallace-nb4id demons😂😂😂..wizards
Great Video
Fascinating video! While I agree that his fame has contributed to a lot of the speculation about him being the pharoah of the Exodus, I also with the Merneptah stele (made by his successor) appearing to mention Israel.
The Exodus has been thoroughly debunked and no scholars worth their degree buy into it.They have never found any chariots,horse skeletons,remains of Egyptian soldiers,or weapons etc in the red sea.Even William Dever dismissed it decades ago and the lack of written evidence not to mention material evidence is astounding
@@Texasmade74 I'm super not interested in a religious debate with you. It's just incorrect to claim as the video appears to that we have no idea why people think he was the pharoah of the Exodus. Regardless of what one thinks of the truth of the Exodus.
@Andrew Roby try actually looking at the scholarship on the Exodus and if there's any evidence
@@Texasmade74 again, super not interested in having a religious debate with you
@@Texasmade74 the bible is not a historical record.
ПРОСТО, МЕ, ПРЕНЕСЕ* Е, МИНАЛОТО , О,О,О* ❤БЛАГОДАРЯ**!
Tut's dad really messed up Egypt's flow.
I certainly concur 100% but Ahkenathen's reign lasted only 17 to 17.5 years, not enough to put a dent in a civilization that pre-dated him for more than 1,747 years, he tried hard though, but moving the capital away from Thebes to Amarna and worshipping the Sun Aten must have been a pain in the gluteus maximus for every person that had to follow him.
when Tut came into power he immediately restored back all the O'l gods and gave the priesthood their positions once again, Amarna did not last.
@Alain Delon I know I know. But you can see the ripples that it caused in Egypt, even if his son restored the old gods. Just musing on the number of times Akhenaten was mentioned in the video.
@@RobbyL 😆 Yeap Robby, some things never die indeed. BTW everyone makes a case for Rameses prowesses, but he was more of a great builder and pr man for his own glory, even his only big battle against the Hittites ended up with an impasse.
You know who I consider fantastic Egyptians pharaohs Robby? in my humble research and for their achievements 12 dynasty Sesostris III & 18th dynasty Thutmose III and tough separated by hundreds of years their deeds of greatness are similar, it is said that Thutmos III did his best to emulate and even surpass his predecessor, I think both of these men were amazing in every aspect.
Now if could only forget that ☀️ worshipper wanker I’d feel better, but he keeps popping up in my nightmares here and there 🤣 best regards Robby…cheers 🥂 to the land of the Nile.
It is illuminating somehow. Muchos Gracias to the high cheecky bone face, in the modern period - evolution may have changed what they were before, interesting piece of history that may resonate to some places and events. My wonder is why fate never took me to visit this place while I had visited and lived other countries but one memory of an Egyptian lady who came to our table while sat down eating our snacks and introduced herself; makes me wonder about many things. Thank you.
The greatest history of Ancient agent
People lack knowledge of the Ancient Egyptians, as they lasted for 3000 years. That's a longer time between the birth of Jesus until today; it puts things in perspective as to how powerful and successful Ancient Egypt was.
Anyone else think it's ironic that the Egyptians that built the pyramids had to rely on another country to build a dam
@tsa3b Not true. There are Egyptians who have ancient Egyptian genes, and they are many. There are Egyptians who have Arabic and Greek genes, and all of them, without exception, are Egyptians.
@tsa3b No, you said that only a small percentage are Egyptians, and this is the fault of the Egyptian people. They were not exterminated or displaced from their country and Egyptians are not Arabs. The people of the Arabian Peninsula are different from us in dialect, customs and traditions
@@ashrafosama2406They only get that DNA from the subsequent invasions of Egypt towards the end of the dynastic periods. That's like saying ancient Americans were all Europeans or the melting pot of races it is today. 8,000-10,000 years ago, this would be a bold-faced lie. Same with Ancient Kemet...the Indigenous people were native African, period.
Thankyou ❤
The fact that the ultimate villain off of WATCHMEN respects this dude alone makes you have to watch the video about him.
Wow, talk about culture and knowledge.
@@lethalchocobo1886 I know right sponge talking about dr. Manhattan.
@@jeffblackard9753 That wasn't meant as a compliment.
I remember the commercial regarding the exhibit of the Pharoah kinggs,The meta
Work and we'll documented culture of ancient Egypt,. I often what the library of Alexandria could reveal,burned out, we must protect history by all means,your very fortunate to have seen that exhibit,great excuse to skip school,?😊😊
What's the movie/show called that this video uses clips of with the Pharoah's, Mosses being sent down river and other story related video clips because I've seen bits and pieces of it over the years on random channels videos but never found out what the shows title was in order to search it up to watch the full video, I know it's an older production but it's supposed to be quite interesting and informative 😊 ... last but not least, I thank whoever knows the show title ahead of time as only a response to this comment will notify me of any knowledge surrounding the movie/show title 😮😊
The name of the show is "the chosen" and I recommend it to everyone
Ramesses lived a long and amazing life, it must have been so sad to look back at those who had passed before the end of his long reign...
Always somewhat ironic to hear about competing megalomaniacs of antiquity.
It has been one of the many negative connotations of humans since man evolved.
And what of Nefertiti? I’m fortunate to know her details and like every good king there’s a far more formidable Queen and Goddess behind him. Arkenarten took the Lion’s share of the monotheistic concept, but Nefertiti was the first person to come up with this concept. And in doing so one could, and I dearly do see the Queen and Faroe as the Very First Daughter Of the one God. And I know they have their differences but she deserves far more respect than these trivial documentaries give her. What an absolutely beautiful woman whose intellect would cumble cities.
Whatever you say weirdo.
Nefertiti. Best pharaoh of any pharaoh. Smartest lady ever. Direct descendant of a god or gods. Able to crumble entire cities with her mind.
Yet almost nothing is known of her and she has zero impact on historical record behind her name.
Even in historical records, people try to steal the glories and deeds of well known and recorded male pharaohs to give unearned accolades on random ass females.
His queen was NEFERTARI....NEFERTITI IS A DIFFER PERSON
You must be an extraordinary man and achieve extraordinary things to be called Great thousands of years after your death
To the Greeks Egypt has had a special place amongst other nations.
Athena
Could you guys maybe do franz Joseph
Marshal Tito
Slobodan milosevic
Richard Wagner
Bach
Beethoven
Mozart
Igor Stravinsky
John Williams
But Wagner would be so interesting
Im skipping school, and learning from this channel 😂👑👑👑👑🌷🌷
Ramesses is the number one. His legs are the number one. His muscles are the number one
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Sounds like a way to survive 😅😅😅
Hello, where can I get the books with some of these histories.
Know this is going to be great
anyone interested in Ramses II should look into the story of Maurice Bucaille. a French scientist involved in research of the mummy a few decades ago
Rameses was supposedly my distant ancestor via my maternal grandfather Capell's paternal early lineage. One of my Capell ancestors married the daughter of the Earl of ArundeI. The House of Arundel are descendants of Rameses. I made this discovery years ago when studying my mother's family genealogy.
I have always wanted to visit Egypt long before I knew I found out about the family connection.
If like to see ur Family tree, maybe u know something the Historians do not.
Your ancestors were calling you home
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Are you back?
@@dreolwa7419 Egyptians were never black. Just go to bed and sleep if off !
Ancient Egypt is my favourite period of time. they were clever, sophisticated, organised, and stunningly beautiful people. At the same time, in Britain, where I come from, we were living in primative dwellings and did not have a systematic form of government. You can not compare the two.
All empires die. The British know that now, the Americans will learn it in the future ☺️
You don't anything about Britain with that kind of comment
Probably Britain's weather was so cold to adapt to, which hindered the population to advance quickly.
Harsh environment to deal with there.
@GORO911 she's still way off with that comment but what do I know
More than 50% of men in England carry King Tut DNA.
This is an excellent documentary. Thank you so much! One comment: it seems that the information presented regarding the Hebrews' enslavement in Egypt is taken solely from the Old Testament. I am mentioning this because there is little or no historical evidence about Hebrews ever having been in Egypt or having been enslaved, etc. It's possible of course, but it's important to realize that religious scripture is not reliable historical evidence in and of itself. If there is no historical record of Moses being placed in a basket, the killing of Hebrew infants, the parting of the Red Sea, etc., it should be mentioned that there is no historical record to support these alleged events.
Funny how he looks nothing like any of the statues he claimed. He was a legendary tagger.
Yup, Ramases had a big hook nose.
He had over 100 kids. Today, he must have millions of descendants.
So anyone with a big hookey...
You could well be descendants of the mighty Ramases.
One of my favorite historical figures. Thank you. This was excellent
Ramsès blanc c'est Faux
So is black
@@sergegregoire5004Nous étions kangs et mangions des croissants noirs!😂😂😂
"Ramesses, let my people go!!"
Nothing but a man-made myth sounds nice but there's absolutely no proof.
@@AFMMD-q8 Its on the Bible & its on the movie of Charlton Heston The Ten Commandments, bakit meron ka ba problema sa comment ko??
Sorry, Ramses was not the Pharaoh of the Exodus of 1445 BC.
@@masada2828 Although you are 💯 correct, there was no Exedus, it was just man made fairytales, colloquialism and man made up stories.
the bible is not a historical record. there is no historical evidence.