@LinuksGuru - You wouldn't get away with the cuts taken with the 'traditional' method at 12000rpm. The tool would fail very quickly. @Travis Pena - The key of this cutting method is maintaining uniform and consistent load on the tool. Notice in the info image at the start of the video how the Traditional Method lists a consistent feedrate. The iMachining method lists a consistent chip thickness, which is maintained by adjusting the feedrate based on the approach of the cutter. Lack of coolant means no thermal shock on the carbide, which causes edges to chip very very quickly. Air blast is used to remove the swarf to keep the cutting area clear.
After countless hours of trying to get imachining to do what is shown in this video, I have reverted back to the old "faster" way of machining. I cannot get SolidCAM to create tool paths that save time.
how does that work, the imachining isnt running coolant, goes faster, and doesnt show any wear on the tool? i dont understand that the way its programmed changes that much.
Because the engagement of the tool is limited the chips don't stay long enough on the tool to transfer heat to it. If you notice the coloration of the chips when side milling steel might be silver to straw but if you try to slot it at that surface speed the chips will be blue or worse! Also it achieves a much higher feedrate with the same chipload per tooth due to the radial compensation of the chip thickness. Anything over 50% engagement limits the maximum feedrate. Edit: also the small engagement means shorter chips that are less likely to start building up in the flutes which means greater process reliability and less wear.
Sketch1994 I'm currently working with a guy that still thinks the old school way works. He took my program and dumped it and basically wrote his own because "this sturdy machine with a sturdier 1.5" inserted endmill MUST be better than your way with that dinky 5/8" nonsense" My way would be 3 minutes faster and last the entire 24 piece job with a $100 solid carbide endmill... He's already blown up a $200 box of inserts on 4 pieces. I can't wait until the insert pockets give out on the next 4 pieces.
@LinuksGuru - You wouldn't get away with the cuts taken with the 'traditional' method at 12000rpm. The tool would fail very quickly.
@Travis Pena - The key of this cutting method is maintaining uniform and consistent load on the tool. Notice in the info image at the start of the video how the Traditional Method lists a consistent feedrate. The iMachining method lists a consistent chip thickness, which is maintained by adjusting the feedrate based on the approach of the cutter. Lack of coolant means no thermal shock on the carbide, which causes edges to chip very very quickly. Air blast is used to remove the swarf to keep the cutting area clear.
After countless hours of trying to get imachining to do what is shown in this video, I have reverted back to the old "faster" way of machining. I cannot get SolidCAM to create tool paths that save time.
I suggest giving us a call and we can go over the specifics of iMachining. iMachining is very dependent on the definitions to optimize the cut.
how does that work, the imachining isnt running coolant, goes faster, and doesnt show any wear on the tool? i dont understand that the way its programmed changes that much.
Because the engagement of the tool is limited the chips don't stay long enough on the tool to transfer heat to it. If you notice the coloration of the chips when side milling steel might be silver to straw but if you try to slot it at that surface speed the chips will be blue or worse! Also it achieves a much higher feedrate with the same chipload per tooth due to the radial compensation of the chip thickness. Anything over 50% engagement limits the maximum feedrate.
Edit: also the small engagement means shorter chips that are less likely to start building up in the flutes which means greater process reliability and less wear.
Sketch1994 I'm currently working with a guy that still thinks the old school way works.
He took my program and dumped it and basically wrote his own because "this sturdy machine with a sturdier 1.5" inserted endmill MUST be better than your way with that dinky 5/8" nonsense"
My way would be 3 minutes faster and last the entire 24 piece job with a $100 solid carbide endmill...
He's already blown up a $200 box of inserts on 4 pieces.
I can't wait until the insert pockets give out on the next 4 pieces.
@@hamsteaks5541 those are the people who think "well it always worked so i wil continue to use it"
Traditional pocket milling - 4500 rpm, iMachining - 12000 rpm. IMHO rpm should be equal or at least comparable.
You can't run full RPM if you are roughing "the old style". With chip thinning you can up the RPM and feedrate and still have lower cutting forces.