🇨🇦🇺🇸What's it like to Take 13hrs Amtrak Train from Toronto to New York? || The Maple Leaf
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- Опубликовано: 28 сен 2024
- ◆VIA Rail & AmtrakThe Maple Leaf, Coach Class (Toronto Union Station→New York Penn Station)
◆I'm a Japanese train enthusiast and stayed in the US🇺🇸 and Canada🇨🇦 for a month.
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The thing I envy about Japan is the courtesy and consideration for fellow travellers that seems to be standard. Very different over here, unfortunately. I am sorry you had to go through that, Kuga. But thanks again for another great video!
Their train system is a much more smooth ride, the trains are very well maintained and CLEAN. You'd never find a door rattling like on this train. I'd always try to convince my company to give me an extra day so I could train to my final destination there rather than fly. Never did a sleeper, but often Green Car, aka first class. Very helpful, friendly staff. Just an awesome experience.
That's Amtrak, not all americans. Amtrak had absurdly bad passenger service.
yes Japan has a very much more polite culture and for that reason Amtrak should require folks to use air plugs when using their laptops. as it is, you can get air buds for as little as a couple of dollars.
12 hours for this distance is simply brutal.
This is what happens when you rent tracks from freight company.
Its a 9 hour drive. Id take the train.
@@WalkingAccountantThis train takes about 2-3 hours longer than it should because everybody onboard needs to go through customs in Niagara Falls. If I was doing this route, I would take it from Buffalo where it only takes about 8 hours from Buffalo to NY Penn
@@andrewisvrycooleven still, in the UK a train from Edinburgh to London, which is about the same distance, takes 5 hours or less and that isn’t even really a high speed train
@@jamiesmith3396 How would that help people travel from Toronto to New York City?
The green & white trains at Union Station are GO Trains, the local passenger trains. GO is short for "Government of Ontario", which started the service in 1967.
If you come back to Toronto, you can visit the Roundhouse Museum (which has one of the original single-level GO Trains), and the Halton Radial Railway Museum (which has many old transit vehicles) in Halton.
Try it bro, you can ride the highest speed train for the first time in Southeast Asia. The highest speed is 350 kilometers per hour, the Indonesian fast train Jakarta - Bandung, the newest, most sophisticated in Southeast Asia, the first,.the way to the beautiful and comfortable and beautiful and cool and cool city of Bandung, thank you sis and bro..*,**
Several years ago, there were plans for passengers to be able to go through U.S. Customs & Immigration at Union Station, instead of at the border. However, the plans were cancelled when the pandemic hit.
I have read that they are still talking about it for Montreal. It would make a lot of sense but would only work if there were no stops before the border which is the case for the Montreal-NYC route.
Have the people never heard of headphones? Very selfish to disturb others.
So no one can ever be selfish? We can't have that moment? Not that i condone talking on speaker phone, but learn to not care about what others think sometimes
I'm American and every.single.time I use Amtrak there are rude passengers talking all night or making noises on their devices. I absolutely hate it.
Public transit in the US is so grim, I’m sorry you’ve had to endure it. Visited japan last month and the ease and frequency of transit was astounding.
Joe Biden is bad for America
Try it bro, you can ride the highest speed train for the first time in Southeast Asia. The highest speed is 350 kilometers per hour, the Indonesian fast train Jakarta - Bandung, the newest, most sophisticated in Southeast Asia, the first,.the way to the beautiful and comfortable and beautiful and cool and cool city of Bandung, thank you sis and bro..*,**
I've been watching your videos for quite awhile and this is the first time I can really relate. Unfortunately most of our public transport is crowded like this, and chaos and loud noices, etc. You would probably die from cultural shock after trying our overnight train economy class. For the context I live in Russia. Really hope someday I could visit Japan just to experience public transport of another level 😄
They should introduce quiet cars on trains in America. Ones that always have working lights, non-schizophrenic doors, and muffins that cost less than $49.99 US. That would be nice. Cheers for the upload. 😉
The sleeper cars tend to be much quieter
Amtrak does have Quiet Cars, at least on the Northeast Regional
@Beaverboy361 Good to hear! Book me a ticket and 28% of a gourmet muffin - pay day's next week...😳
That Karen on the PA system sounded nasty! 😅
Typical Metro NYC Italian accent. That's why everyone else in the world considers them to be rude cuz their accent is so horrible.
A slow Shinkansen could cover the distance in 2 hours. LOL (BTW, when I was a kid all you needed to cross the border was a driver's license, and failing that they would ask your name,, where you were born, and where you lived. Mom usually brought our birth certificates; they were never needed. PS No barbed wire border spots either.)
C’etait La belle vie de l’époque
Oh say can you see, the land of barbed wire and the home of the walls! The absolute irony is that more people try to enter Canada illegally from 'murica than the other way around.
@@roger0929 One of your fellow Canadians told me that the border changes under Bush and the walls weren't there to keep people out but to keep us in. You're right.
You're probably back in Japan, so posting this is surely too late, but if you took the Silver Meteor or the Silver Star, my town is on the route of those trains. I would meet you, and bring you a quick lunch!
Wow someone is a little desperate for the kuga
When you do pick to fly in the u.s. and Canada try porter airlines it flies at Newark international airport terminal B the planes they use are small for the Newark to Toronto route and feel like you're being pushed around . Oh as for how Amtrak is well just say that train car your in as be refurbished multiple times over the last say couple years. Most of the rolling stock on the Northeast region of Amtrak date back to the possibly 80s. I believe they've been trying to get new rolling stock for the Northeast region for years but that's a different story
ThanksMuch!
Kuga's Travel!
Unfortunately, the coach on Amtrak is bad, that's why I always heard people saying you should get a sleeper car, they're quieter and you have an amazing view out your window.
Sleeper cars add $200-$1000 to the one way trip and that is for the cheapest sleeper car. I don't know many that can afford it. I used to do sleeper car on a 10 hour stretch because I was taking the train to the airport city. Very expensive and run down.
A VIA Rail train departed on time? I've just witnessed a miracle.
It was Amtrack.
That’s a pretty no-frills dining car … on the Lakeshore Limited (the NYC-Chicago train) there are at least lovely etched glass partitions between the bench seats; all they serve, however, are microwaved boxed meals. These days the only way to get the full experience of 40 years ago is to take a route west from Chicago, then you’ll still get the meals cooked onboard and the lovely observation cars.
It looks like what you had for your second meal was a ham & cheese submarine sandwich (depending on regional preferences, they can also be called a grinder/hoagie/etc), and $19 is typical for travel food in the US. You'll likely get a better meal out of that hot dog cart you can see at the end of your video.
Not sure how long you spend in NYC, but I hope you got to go to at least one good restaurant while there, preferably a proper pizzeria or other Italian location. (There's other excellent restaurants as well, I'm just partisan for my ancestor's cuisine. 👩🍳)
I've taken the train, and taken the bus to NYC, and both were brutal, especially at customs. The plane is the way to go, and land in Newark, and take the bus into Manhattan. Penn Station is a nightmare, but once you step outside, it's New York! You mentioned that you should have taken a plane. I thought you were a train enthusiast.
So much great video.
Интересное путешествие!
Welcome to the US of A, where chaos abounds. I hope your visit is a good one. NYC is a GREAT town, but needs time....I wish I coould have welcomed you myself....I would start with apologies! 💜
Hubby and I were thinking of doing this to get to our cruise port of Boston, but it would arrive so late that we'd have to spend a night in a hotel, on top of the night we'd spend in Boston before our embarkation day. Instead, we're doing Toronto to Montreal by Via and overnight Greyhound to Boston. Plenty of time for supper, and the Montreal bus station has lockers for our suitcases. Once in Boston, we can leave our luggage at the hotel and hunt down some strong coffee and breakfast, and be tourists till check in.
جميل اتمنى اجرب هذه الرحلة
0:42 that's not the routing it takes at all. It goes all the way east to Albany, then south down to NYC.
Thanks for a another cool video. Is that a Seiko Turtle on your wrist?
This train is slow & stops often but I want to try it during autumn colours next October.
Thanks!😊
Wow, thank you!🤝
Hope you went over trains on the NEC (Northeast Corridor). This is where trains in America are actually more competent and on time. If you did I’m excited to see your review and am happy you got to experience the good side of US Rail Travel lol
Hope you come back another time to experience Brightline!
Good Job..As Always! 😊❤
Welcome to North America, where you get treated like garbage & pay for the privilege. I apologize for the crappy experience you had. And I agree: a plane would have been a better choice.
I've done that trip by bus and I'm surprised because it's about the same time. I thought it'd be faster at least... at least it's easier than a bus!
Thank you again Kuga, another great video, I wonder if Business Class would have been any better?
Apparently not really, on this route, if you pay for business class you get a roomier seat but no meal included in fare.
The roomier seats are quite nice, though, and in business class more people seem to respect the quiet car’s rules. I do usually opt for the bump-up to business class, even if it’s a little pricier and meals aren’t included, just because i appreciate the quiet and the extra room. However, Amtrak have eliminated business class on some routes - Chicago to Milwaukee, for instance - and I do sorely miss it!
hi, kuga. thanks for sharing the vid ❤
lot cheaper than the mess that flying has become and far more enjoyable
134 USD in a coach car, in my opinion is expensive, it is also possible to reduce the travel time in about 3 hours making a better border control. In Europe, even befere the Schengen agreement, they were allready made in the train, avoiding the annoing waiting at the border. In fact 42 miles per hour is in actual standards ridiculous. Even in my country (Portugal) we make better times (62 miles per hour).
The noise level seems higher than what I usually experience on the Northeast Regional. Or maybe I'm just used to the noise and tuned it out.
Ah, people in crowded transportation, all with their videos turned up to full volume, with headphones apparently literally being a foreign concept. Welcome to the US. :-/
Brutal. You can drive it in eight hours, with ease. Unless a blizzard is cooking off Lake Erie/Ontario. And what’s with the Customs hassle? Ridiculous having to debark then get back on.
If you return to Canada, please consider taking the Tshiuetin train. Yes, seriously. I'm curious. (There is a Wikipedia article and an existing documentary short.)
flight is about 45 minutes in the air
I am so sorry you took this train… if I had known you planned to do this, I would have talked you out of it.
Thnx nice video ^5s
Can I bring my own food to eat on the train?
US Customs at the border are very picky and strict about meats and fruits that you taking across. Stick with the Tim Hortons donuts and muffins and you'll be fine. Buy food after you cross over.
Wow! I can drive from Toronto to New York city in 8 hours
Or I can drive to Myrtle Beach, South Carolina in 13 hours
12 hours seems pretty long. I'd rather drive
DONE.
earphones or air buds should be required. for using laptops on Amtrak.
Boa tarde boa viagem trem amtrak
Should have the border controls at departure point either end... The journry would be 10~11 hours.
飛行機より列車での国境越えのほうが泥くさくって、
いかにも国境を跨ぎました‼️ってカンジがします。
バスならさらに感じます🤣
Amtrak's cheeseburger is quite nice, not sure if you ever tried it as part of your trip
Flatley Garden
Hope you enjoy New York!
You were better off walking out of Union Station and waiting for the shuttle bus that would take you to Toronto City Airport literally 5 minutes away from the station....you could hop on a flight and be at EWR in 1 hour. Haha.
I imagine the hotel room in New York cost more for one night than the train ride and meals.
Looks dreadful. Correcting your map, this train never enters Pennsylvania.
Good video tho overall
I used to take it and It takes me 12 hours.
13 hours is completely ridiculous for that distance. Someone would have to be really afraid of flying to put up with that
Welcome to NYC, NY, USA!🎉🎉
I am come from Hong Kong I like y show thanks
I hate how people don't use headphones when they are watching movies on a train.
Via rail >>>>>> Amtrak
I don’t remember it being that long of a trip.
After we get to NY we got a train to Florida.
And its not immigration inspection either 😅. your processing through customs unless your asian and you have a visa or something or your from Europe and a non passport holder or something like that customs and immigration are not the same thing I'm a Dual citizen Canadian American and have been my whole life so i know more and us Dual citizens would have move experience then people who are not
Japanese trains and rails cover this distance in about 2 hours. USA sucks.
Where is the immigration?
u considered flying from toronto? While flying is about an hour's journey to NYC, but there are other things that u will need to consider..first u have to be at the airport at least 2-3 hours early and going thru american customs is a hassle. Air Canada is always delayed and has the distinction of being the worst airline on the planet..plus u are limited with your baggage and they charge u for everything else. To make matters worse, AC flights are usually canceled/delayed all the time - And when u get to La Guardia, u still need to get to your hotel which will cost a little more..so overall, the flying time from toronto to NYC is short but also much more costly. ...after my experience with the Buses, trains and flying, i have decided not to travel anymore unless absolutely necessary
As you were leaving Canada and crossing over the bridge, you should have added gun shots audio as you crossed the border into the U.S.
I'm sorry my American train riders were making such a racket. They ruined what is a scenic train ride through New York!
Yeah. I noticed the train was pretty quiet until after crossing the border. Maybe they couldn't take the boredom anymore.😁
Canada is in North America at the same time as the United States.😊😊
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Why don't we ever see your face on your videos tuga
Public transit (especially trains) in North America is a complete joke.
Did anyone notice how overweight and poorly dressed the people in Toronto were compared to the clientele that Kuga usually films on his train journeys. Shame on us.
it sucks
Yeah, people have become horrible these days, never use headphones and will happily play their movies on speakers. I don't know what is wrong with these people, but they are kind of garbage...there I said it!
Why there's so much gap between the train and the Platform. How is it bridged? Many people can lose their lives by falling in the gap while boarding the train.
There is a terrible trend of people eschewing head phones in favor of blasting their devices at the public. Libraries, buses, trains nowhere is safe. Why is there no quiet car?.
In North America, train travel is very slow, because most of the tracks are owned by freight companies, which let passenger trains travel on them, for a fee. Freight trains take priority, so passenger trains have to wait for them to go by.
Despite that, the train was filled! There is a demand for rail. If it could have been non-stop and 80mph all the way it should have been only a 6-hour trip. If the rails and crossing were up to it, Amtrak could do that distance in 4.5 hours. You are right about the freight companies. TY for the comment.
So that's why it takes thirteen hours to go 500 miles.😁
@@bobmetcalfe9640 isn't that insane? A lot of this route isn't rated for anything near high speed. Road crossings and signaling are another issue. Even if those were resolved, most freight routes can only go 80 miles per hour under FRA rules. In the US we need to remember that a lot of intercity rail isn't HS but runs under 75mph or 120kph which is a doable speed and then some with current Amtrak equipment.
@@youdontknowme2915by law, yes, but in practice, no
Ah I see.. I am just bout to ask why the train so slow until I saw your comment. In Java island Indonesia, from Jakarta to Surabaya (700km) took about 8.5 hours with fastest regular train.
There is a huge demand for high speed rail in Canada and the US. I hope to one day ride those rails 🤞🏽
People should not be allowed to watch, well, anything with the sound on while on any sort of public transport. Experiencing what you did would have driven me crazy. I don't understand why Amtrak allows that.
Your map at the start of the video was really inaccurate unless the route has recently changed.
The locomotive change in Albany is the result of New York law prohibiting diesel powered trains in Penn Station and Grand Central.
The new locomotive was a GE P32-ACDM, which can take power from the third rails used by the MTA commuter trains.
The State and Amtrak and looking to replace them with new dual mode versions of the Siemens “Charger” type locomotives.
Try it bro, you can ride the highest speed train for the first time in Southeast Asia. The highest speed is 350 kilometers per hour, the Indonesian fast train Jakarta - Bandung, the newest, most sophisticated in Southeast Asia, the first,.the way to the beautiful and comfortable and beautiful and cool and cool city of Bandung, thank you sis and bro..*,**
If I knew you were going to be in Toronto area, I would have recommended you to go to Markham area for some of the best Chinese foods in the Northeast area of North America. This is due to the Hong Kong immigrants who went there in the mid 1990's. I live in NYC and I say our restaurants don't compare.
I live in Toronto and many times I visited NYC, I have a brother who lives there, but I've never take the train, just plane and bus. However now that I watched your video I really want to give it a try. I also hope to visit your country one day. Greetings!
The ride south from Albany into NYC along the Hudson is pretty any time of day, but especially at twilight in a west facing seat. Hope you got to enjoy the sunset.
Ok so when I guessed the Maple Leaf was next, I was just off by one video, ha ha.
I really hope you got to see Niagara Falls on the trip!
If you ever come back to the states, I would suggest you look at the Grand Canyon railroad from Williams AZ up to the canyon, it is…quite the experience.
Thanks as always for a great and relaxing video! Keep it up! :)
Nice video!! Thank you for that. It is kid of crazy to me how slow this journey was in compare to what we are used to here in Europe. I travel a lot by trains, including international trips, and to me this is looking all very slow and the train looks very, very, basic.
I rather take a plane. The train was so noisy. No offense.
The problem is, the plane is even noisier.
@@Daneelro With even less personal space.
@@roger0929 And less possibilities to change seats.
I avoid flying if possible, but my worst trip was a 3-hour flight from Ireland which was delayed several hours into the night, and behind me, there were two teenage boys who just could not keep themselves calm in their seats in spite of repeated scolding from their dad.
Interesting,
don't you all enjoy railroad
trams, trains etc are just so cool
take a ride in my ''transportation'' folder, (folder 2 in playlists) :)
The map was wrong. The route you drew would be the old Lackawanna route, but you went the old New York Central route (east to Albany then south along the Hudson River).
For $180 bucks Canadian, a VIA Rail Turbo Train should be running this route to NYC. BS ticket prices.
In the US and Canada, you are hoping for "the" Best, not hoping for "My" Best. Lost in translation...
Who cares about your best?
First love your videos
Thanks for the video I enjoyed it. I did this trip twice in the 1990s to go and see the ball drop on New Year’s Eve in Times Square. On my first trip we didn’t get there early enough so could not get close to the ball drop, second trip went well, got a good spot except we had to stand for four hours!! Back then we were allowed to stay in our seats on the train while the customs agents came aboard and checked everyone. Can you tell me please the name of the hotel where you stayed in New York should I ever go back.
seemed like an annoying ride. Wish people would use headphones at least
Not a mistake, but an experience even though slow. Coach seats on Amtrak are business class or better on a plane, and I can guarantee a plane would be more crowded, while sitting in economy with a bunch of Karens blasting their mouth's off. The Advantage of Amtrak is you go from downtown right into Manhattan. With a plane, you'll probably end up in Newark, where it's a shuttle bus or another train to get to Manhattan.
"Amtrak" is Latin for disappointment.
I hope the hotel was relaxing! Thank you
What a adventure that was.😏
Oh, that’s a deal breaker for me. I don’t like ignorant adult travellers that blast their stupid video games on their cell phones. I also don’t like grown ass adults that let their kids blast a cartoon, music, or games without headphones.