Even in the striking islam can compete against tuporia and do very well, Islam is one of the best defensive fighters in mma, he doesn't get hit in his fights unlike max who is one of the worst fighter defensively statistically and volk who although got decent defense got knocked out. I remember luke underestimate Islam striking against oliviera, volk and poirier as well saying the same thing here, that if the fight stay on the feet poirier and oliviera would beat him, nah dude its more complicated than that, and by the way Islam beat all those elit strikers with striking. Islam's striking is very effective not just because of the threat of the take down but because he combines good basics striking techniques with unorthodox striking moves and thats the number 1 reason why his striking always confuses his opponents even against elit strikers like volk, I can recall even poirier in the post fight press talked about it he said something a long the line of (it was hard to have striking success against Islam because of his strange unorthodox movements it was hard to read them just like khabib) Topuria is a textbook boxer with strong basics but since he hits so hard it makes his striking even better, but in actuality his striking skills are not vast, he is a great boxer perhaps the best in mma right now but his kicking skills is average, he can't switch and fight southpaw, and he doesn't have the skills Islam got in the clinch ( knees elbows) .... And the way he stand striking he will be open for Islam body kicks and head kicks.
One of my favorite ever moments of MK was when Luke was hysterically laughing while high af at that discontinued food question. I still revisit that clip every now and then 😂
Islam can't go up if Belal isn't champion because there are other contenders Luke? After 4 defences?! BUT Ilia can hold up FW go up and fuck around do as he please after ONE defence? Yeah right G T F O. LT try not to suck off Ilia Challenge = Impossible.
Yeah if shavkat beat mohamed and Islam ask for a 170 title shot he is getting it, he is big enough of a star and he already deserves one, when Islam vs volk happened there was many contender at 155 too but the ufc made the fight anyway because, 1 khabib asked for it, 2 it was a big fight. But honestly if mohamed is still champion by the end of 2025, all the fun match ups and big money fights for Islam are at 155, not 170 Max holloway. Needs 1 wins and he fights Islam, Geathje. Needs one wins. Moicano is in a win streak and the build up would be funny. Tuporia needs 1 win at 155 and him vs islam is a mega fight. Fiziev would be fun but he needs more wins.
He's not saying what he wants to happen, saying what he thinks could/would happen. He's been very vocal that he doesn't want ilia to move up. Don't take analysis so personally
In competetive divisions like those, especially as stacked as 155 with neverending contenders, ideally the champ would never move up - but if they're popular enough and want to it's going to happen
Islam is taller but Interms of weight topuria is actually bigger than Islam, javier mendez said it many times Islam's never got heavier than 81 killos unlike topuria who gets to 82 kilos or more, which goes in lines with what khabib said 4 years ago too about Islam. Which makes topuria's body type semilar to khabib they can easiky gaine a lot of weight outside of competition but they can also loses a lot weight fast in camp, where as Islam is more like a gsp type who are very muscular and ripped but have a hard time gaining any weight or losing weight as well, gsp talked about it when trying to move up to 185, I believe they call his body type ectomophe or something,
@adub92199 if a low level unranked fighter like Herbert hurt topuria badly on the feet dropped him with a head kick and how zalal also roughed topuria on the feet and wen to a close decision than Islam will do cruel things to topuria anywhere the fight stays at even if it's on the feet.
@adub92199 if a can unranked fighter like Herbert can hurt illia badly on the feet dropped him with a head kick and how zalal also roughed topuria on the feet and wen to a close decision than Islam will do very cruel things to topuria anywhere the fight stays at even if it's on the feet.
Sooner or later it’s going to effect the legitimacy of the sport, and the UFC specifically, if stars like Jones and Francis, or even Islam and Topuria, aren’t making the same kind of money athletes in the other sports Dana is trying to emulate make… (NFL, NBA, etc…) 🤷♂️
A show that is to go over the year in review going over fights and fighters that have been giving themselves to the sport and fans opens yapping about a former fighter and the "what ifs" . Dont waste the fans time. Move on
To say Illia submits Islam is crazy. Islam submitted the king of submission. Illia looked impressive on Volk's fight but thats a residue of Islam's headkick after 2 months. Max also went to war n went down in Justin's fight, he admitted it too.. The stats didn't count. We all saw it was coming for Max. The names Illia beat is high level but the condition of those two men were shaky n not in their best form.I think people r riding too high on Illia's horse. Dustin gives him a hard time at 155.
Fucking agree 💯 Those weight cuts back to 145 after bulking to 155 definitely compromised them both. IMO Charles, Islam, DP, JG, Armen and maybe 55 Max all spank Ilia. Do I wanna see it? Hell yes
How long more will you haters keep making excuses, I'm sure once he beats Islam yall be like Islam is older and Khabib wasn't his corner and all that shit
Illia is not be the best boxer in the UFC, as Max outboxed him in their fight; however, his punching power is an advantage. Max himself was outboxed by Poirier, who was outboxed by Islam.
Illia should secure his title shot against Charles and in the meantime Volk and Lopes fight for an interim. Illia then comes back to unify them before moving up to face Islam
I totally agree with topuria fighter of the year. And i dont like topuria because he beat my favorite two fighters in that year. But you cant deny him.
It’s because Star Wars is for kids and kids are getting older in 20 years lol it’s the same thing with the new Star Wars. Old people hate them now and kids like them smh sheep
100% worst possible viewpoints on the Prequels.. backed up by complete brain dead opinions advocating for the (awful) Disney trilogy Luke Thomas ladies and gentlemen..
Merry Christmas Denis and Luke. The original trilogy ranks number one. Then the second trilogy is there. The one that really sucks is the JJ Abrams trilogy. Downright pure awful.
Ilia is an amazing boxer and suddenly he's going to steam roll everyone including Makhachev? Give me a break. He won't beat Arman, he won't beat Makhachev. He'll be deeply tested against Oliveira and Poirier. Let's come down to reality. He will be put in his place in the coming year. Where are his submissions? Grappling wins?
Agree, LT is the king of misquotes...he implied Dana said Aspinall vs Jones is the biggest fight in UFC history, when Dana actually said it is "the biggest fight in UFC heavyweight history", big difference, but ok Luke 🤥
Luke sounds stupid, On fight of the year, potan fought 2 fomer champion who vacated the belt don't forget volk went night night against islam makhachev 2 months before his fight against illia
Argument is stupid. Pereira and Topuria both fought the best competition that their division could offer them. Saying that Ilia is fighting higher quality fighters is stupid.
U was t to talk about reality or fantasy? The reality is tuporia faced the best compitetion and poatan fought the worst not only (205 is the worst division) but periera ducked the n1 ankalaev to cherry picked the number 9th guy, kalil who is a journey man who got koed by walker and alex pereira still struggled against that guy and even got dropped hurt badly and losing every rounds before the finish.... If periera had fought fighters on the level of max or volk he would get knocked out again like izzy did to him. Plus hill a d jirri became whapion by beating a 44 year old glover lol.
I actually feel bad for this channel. It used to be fire. Followed Colby’s decline arc. Imagine having to denigrate yourself to have Iuke Thomas on….sad day.
Luke on point always
Luke is a douche
Merry Christmas Submission Radio! 🎄Thanks for all the great content this year 💪
Merry Christmas!!! Thanks for the support!
What's up with the negative comments lmao Luke is just a guest not the permanent co host
Well said
He ain’t saying any woke stuff here
@@thesatisfiedcustomer4869do you even know what woke means or where it comes from?
P1 Luke Thomas fan here - becoming a big fan of these collabs, GG's
Cheers brotha!
Yoda vs Dooku battle shits on all lightsaber duels from the originals.
It has more whistles and bells but it's not more drama than Empire
No way can ilia submit islam. Absolutely no way. Islam is superb on the ground.
Even in the striking islam can compete against tuporia and do very well, Islam is one of the best defensive fighters in mma, he doesn't get hit in his fights unlike max who is one of the worst fighter defensively statistically and volk who although got decent defense got knocked out.
I remember luke underestimate Islam striking against oliviera, volk and poirier as well saying the same thing here, that if the fight stay on the feet poirier and oliviera would beat him, nah dude its more complicated than that, and by the way Islam beat all those elit strikers with striking.
Islam's striking is very effective not just because of the threat of the take down but because he combines good basics striking techniques with unorthodox striking moves and thats the number 1 reason why his striking always confuses his opponents even against elit strikers like volk, I can recall even poirier in the post fight press talked about it he said something a long the line of (it was hard to have striking success against Islam because of his strange unorthodox movements it was hard to read them just like khabib)
Topuria is a textbook boxer with strong basics but since he hits so hard it makes his striking even better, but in actuality his striking skills are not vast, he is a great boxer perhaps the best in mma right now but his kicking skills is average, he can't switch and fight southpaw, and he doesn't have the skills Islam got in the clinch ( knees elbows) .... And the way he stand striking he will be open for Islam body kicks and head kicks.
The crazy fight Dana is working on is Khamzat vs Pereira
No way they let Alex get mauled like that
No way he’d do that. Why sacrifice Alex? He is a cash cow
Logan vs Conor is an all TKO deal, thus making it possible.
“Nobody cares about Conor anymore” literally the very first thing discussed
One of my favorite ever moments of MK was when Luke was hysterically laughing while high af at that discontinued food question. I still revisit that clip every now and then 😂
Reluctantly agree. It's Ilia Topuria . . . And re popularity it is Poatan!!merry Xmas 🎉
Merry Xmas!!!
First lol. Great so far, fellas. From SC USA
Cheers to you brotha! Have a great Xmas!
Spend enough time talking about the logan vs conner fight?
Luke Thomas gets so emotional
Islam can't go up if Belal isn't champion because there are other contenders Luke? After 4 defences?! BUT Ilia can hold up FW go up and fuck around do as he please after ONE defence? Yeah right G T F O. LT try not to suck off Ilia Challenge = Impossible.
Yeah if shavkat beat mohamed and Islam ask for a 170 title shot he is getting it, he is big enough of a star and he already deserves one, when Islam vs volk happened there was many contender at 155 too but the ufc made the fight anyway because, 1 khabib asked for it, 2 it was a big fight.
But honestly if mohamed is still champion by the end of 2025, all the fun match ups and big money fights for Islam are at 155, not 170
Max holloway. Needs 1 wins and he fights Islam,
Geathje. Needs one wins.
Moicano is in a win streak and the build up would be funny.
Tuporia needs 1 win at 155 and him vs islam is a mega fight.
Fiziev would be fun but he needs more wins.
He's not saying what he wants to happen, saying what he thinks could/would happen. He's been very vocal that he doesn't want ilia to move up. Don't take analysis so personally
In competetive divisions like those, especially as stacked as 155 with neverending contenders, ideally the champ would never move up - but if they're popular enough and want to it's going to happen
Islam said that he won't fight Belal.
Lol I would take islam 9 out of 10 times against ilia people don't realise how good islam is..
And he's much bigger
Islam is taller but Interms of weight topuria is actually bigger than Islam, javier mendez said it many times Islam's never got heavier than 81 killos unlike topuria who gets to 82 kilos or more, which goes in lines with what khabib said 4 years ago too about Islam.
Which makes topuria's body type semilar to khabib they can easiky gaine a lot of weight outside of competition but they can also loses a lot weight fast in camp, where as Islam is more like a gsp type who are very muscular and ripped but have a hard time gaining any weight or losing weight as well, gsp talked about it when trying to move up to 185, I believe they call his body type ectomophe or something,
If volk roughed him up on the feet in their first fight I think ilia can really do damage. It all depends on how long it stays on the feet
@adub92199 if a low level unranked fighter like Herbert hurt topuria badly on the feet dropped him with a head kick and how zalal also roughed topuria on the feet and wen to a close decision than Islam will do cruel things to topuria anywhere the fight stays at even if it's on the feet.
@adub92199 if a can unranked fighter like Herbert can hurt illia badly on the feet dropped him with a head kick and how zalal also roughed topuria on the feet and wen to a close decision than Islam will do very cruel things to topuria anywhere the fight stays at even if it's on the feet.
35:08, I love Luke but I’m saving this moment. If Charles wins the strap later this year. I want to remember this statement
I can only imagine the method in which Luke wanted you to die when you started that introduction. 😂😂😂. Always enjoy these
He's kind to me 🤣
Love this show
Thanks for the love, means a lot! Have a great Xmas!
Sooner or later it’s going to effect the legitimacy of the sport, and the UFC specifically, if stars like Jones and Francis, or even Islam and Topuria, aren’t making the same kind of money athletes in the other sports Dana is trying to emulate make… (NFL, NBA, etc…)
🤷♂️
Nobody cares about Conor vs one of the Pauls. Wish media would just ignore Conor
A show that is to go over the year in review going over fights and fighters that have been giving themselves to the sport and fans opens yapping about a former fighter and the "what ifs" .
Dont waste the fans time. Move on
Dana probably make the Conor vs Logan fight for his boxing promotion
To say Illia submits Islam is crazy. Islam submitted the king of submission. Illia looked impressive on Volk's fight but thats a residue of Islam's headkick after 2 months. Max also went to war n went down in Justin's fight, he admitted it too.. The stats didn't count. We all saw it was coming for Max. The names Illia beat is high level but the condition of those two men were shaky n not in their best form.I think people r riding too high on Illia's horse. Dustin gives him a hard time at 155.
Max didn't go to war with Justin. It was literally one-sided beat down. Volk would get slept either way. Tired of the excuses.
Fucking agree 💯 Those weight cuts back to 145 after bulking to 155 definitely compromised them both. IMO Charles, Islam, DP, JG, Armen and maybe 55 Max all spank Ilia. Do I wanna see it? Hell yes
@@Jay-s4n7m that 145 scale is what max went to war with after 300 😂
Residue of islams head kick after 2 months, max had wqr bwfore and coudnt fight.
Wow another level of retard trying his best to find excuses 😂😂😂😂
How long more will you haters keep making excuses, I'm sure once he beats Islam yall be like Islam is older and Khabib wasn't his corner and all that shit
Illia is not be the best boxer in the UFC, as Max outboxed him in their fight; however, his punching power is an advantage. Max himself was outboxed by Poirier, who was outboxed by Islam.
I like these 2 together
Thanks man! Thanks for the kind words!
Illia should secure his title shot against Charles and in the meantime Volk and Lopes fight for an interim. Illia then comes back to unify them before moving up to face Islam
I totally agree with topuria fighter of the year. And i dont like topuria because he beat my favorite two fighters in that year. But you cant deny him.
Respect Luke Thomas 🫡. But still bro you’ll get wobbled! On god
It’s because Star Wars is for kids and kids are getting older in 20 years lol it’s the same thing with the new Star Wars. Old people hate them now and kids like them smh sheep
36:29
Revenge of the Sith is fire
Better than Episode 1?
Too many 15 second ads
100% worst possible viewpoints on the Prequels.. backed up by complete brain dead opinions advocating for the (awful) Disney trilogy
Luke Thomas ladies and gentlemen..
Niether here, nor there
Merry Christmas Denis and Luke. The original trilogy ranks number one. Then the second trilogy is there. The one that really sucks is the JJ Abrams trilogy. Downright pure awful.
Ilia is an amazing boxer and suddenly he's going to steam roll everyone including Makhachev? Give me a break. He won't beat Arman, he won't beat Makhachev. He'll be deeply tested against Oliveira and Poirier. Let's come down to reality. He will be put in his place in the coming year. Where are his submissions? Grappling wins?
i like the prequels
Fave one?
Topuria's last 2 wins dwarf Pereira's entire combat sports career. Enough said.
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Care to explain what’s wrong?
With that logic Chris Weidman and Ryan Bader are Goats
I agree even though max is my favorite fighter
@@DAMUSCUBASTEVE
What? How are they relevant here?
Ilia can ko islam but submit, it's 9 out of 10, no. Very rare
notorious for the wrong seasons, conor is these days
Die hard is maybe the best Christmas movie or Friday after the next. Worst Christmas movie is bad Santa 😂 movies shite
But how do you feel about Jingle All the Way? BTW that new Bateman netflix one is pretty sick too! Check it out
Luke Thomas is better than Pereira
Can you redo this episode without grey beard?
😂😂
Agree, LT is the king of misquotes...he implied Dana said Aspinall vs Jones is the biggest fight in UFC history, when Dana actually said it is "the biggest fight in UFC heavyweight history", big difference, but ok Luke 🤥
Agreed
Dude, I just can't. Please do it solo or get a better co-host/guest. This woke creep is the absolute worst. See you on the next one! Peace!
Stop it luke with that glazing tuporia submission
Luke sounds stupid, On fight of the year, potan fought 2 fomer champion who vacated the belt don't forget volk went night night against islam makhachev 2 months before his fight against illia
Argument is stupid. Pereira and Topuria both fought the best competition that their division could offer them. Saying that Ilia is fighting higher quality fighters is stupid.
Not totally true tho. Ankalaev is the best possible guy he could've fought at 205. Not his fault they didn't fight, but still they didn't fight.
U was t to talk about reality or fantasy? The reality is tuporia faced the best compitetion and poatan fought the worst not only (205 is the worst division) but periera ducked the n1 ankalaev to cherry picked the number 9th guy, kalil who is a journey man who got koed by walker and alex pereira still struggled against that guy and even got dropped hurt badly and losing every rounds before the finish.... If periera had fought fighters on the level of max or volk he would get knocked out again like izzy did to him.
Plus hill a d jirri became whapion by beating a 44 year old glover lol.
No it’s true, if Alex fought Ankalaev then what you said would be true but it’s not
@nikobellic9004 you know zero about mma. Such an ignorant comment
Are we pretending Rountree, Hill and Jiri are as skilled and good as Max and Volk? Lmao insane argument
The Phantom Menace wasn't great, HOWEVER The Clone Wars era of Star Wars was S-Tier ESPECIALLY after This Bad Fanfiction Disney Abomination
I actually feel bad for this channel. It used to be fire. Followed Colby’s decline arc.
Imagine having to denigrate yourself to have Iuke Thomas on….sad day.
Cheer up it’s nearly Christmas
Ok luke...... The irony that you live in D.C. Certainly fits.
Didn't see him there when you were smearing faecal matter on the walls?
Geez Luke is long-winded. Takes 20mins to answer one question, while mostly just repeating himself. I'd rather listen to a car alarm
Islam walk around weight claim at 179 is #1 bullshit. He every bit of 190 out of camp