As someone that plays the Big 3 (US, Russia, Germany) top tier, you can instantly see the difference in the line ups. US is filled to the brim with Click-baits and AIMs with an occasional SEP thrown in. Russia is mostly BVMs or B3s with a good chunk of BMP-2Ms and 2S38( for some reason). Meanwhile German teams are absolutely stacked with Leo 2A5 and up, which just lets the hordes of them roll over anything not an MBT.
Nice to have but when your protection is lacklustre it won't make much of a difference and Gaijin acting like its protection is bad is so annoying, if they don't wanna buff its armor they don't need to make horrible excuses.
They use modern Abrams with stats from 1970's model. Refuse to add any DU armor or spall protection (which every American tank has had incorporated since the 60's). Every hit either kills you instantly with the huge internal spall or disables multiple systems making you a sitting duck. Only recourse is an honest steam review!
I agree I’m just tired of Russia getting all this cool stuff but America rarely gets it or we have to beat it out of gajin. It’s not just in ground either it’s in air as well because with the new SU you get to skip some of the “bad” missiles making for an easy grind but F-15 has no new things in my opinion.
everyone was complaining about this in the forum and the moderators pretty much telling everyone to F themselves. It is pure hypocrisy how they try to justify the fact the abrams is so horrible in regards to survivability when the tank was specifically designed to save the crew.
@@Yomahagava Russian tanks have proven to be excellent throughout history. Excellent at throwing their turrets up in the air after the first hit, yet in war thunder they’re the Jesus of tanks.
Unpopular opinion but the Abrams was never that bad, def not great but not unplayable or anything. Happy it got the reload buff, still think Gaijin should buff the hull armor at least a little like up to 500mm or something but if you play to it's strengths it's very easy to rack up klills. I think the problem with it is that in war thunder a large amount of players are zero skill just hold W and the Abrams doesn't really allow for that whereas other tanks are more forgiving with the hold W style. Leos and T series have better overall armor so you can get away with it more.
wait tanks with manual loader can reload faster if not the same as auto-loaded tanks while also having lower ammo replenishment time at about 10 seconds Vs Leclerc or Type 10 which take 30 seconds ! it also has better protection and ammunition than those two tanks ? And some people still acting like Abrams are bad ? lol
so... the challengers now lost their unique quirk of faster reload. and for abramses it covers their whole ready rack of 20-ish rounds, while on the challengers it was just the first 5.... nice gaijin, cool.
5 second reload?Gaijin being dumb cause Abrams has loader not autoloader poor loader if he had to load shots every 5 seconds and Im not talking about the gun barrel it would be worn out prerry quickly ngl and the worst is that these tanks would be out off ammunition very quickly so yeah
its only better if you pay gaijin $$ to unlock Ace - literally pay to win now but even then USA aint winning - not one person gunna have the patience to grind the mil+ xp for the crew upgrade to ace
wow 5sec the armor of the Abrams in this game is weak. Every Abrams take goes up in weight in the tons and the armor is the same, they mess over US in the game everywhere
Its still a crap tank, tusk 2 should stop tandem shape but it doesn't. Armor is the worst or equal to the worst in the top 5 nations. I just stop playing US ground and just play air.
The Abrams does everything but impress. Average speed, horrendous armor, non-existent survivability. The only thing good about it is that it has the 2nd best round in the game. Thats it. Besides that its the 2nd worst MBT in the game only beaten by the Ariete, its gonna take alot more than just a reload correction to make it good. There are plenty of other US vehicles in need of corrections too. Stryker missing 3 degrees of drepression, and a reload that is a whole second longer than it is IRL, the M1 Abrams still missing an appropriate round for its BR, the MBT-70 series being heavily over-br'd, and the XM-1s missing usable ammo (theyre officially the worst top tier premium in the game, they should have M774 at minimum) and smoke launchers.
Still the second worst MBT...still better than the challengers, of course I've never died because of 6s reload, but a lot due to the bad armor profile, and the astonishing amount of spalling enemy apfsds generated penetrating that amor... my winrate: M1A2 SEP 45% Leopard 2A6 61% T80BVM 72% lol
Not to be controversial about it, but I really don't understand why people don't like it, I maintained the same K/D in this as I did the 2A7V and T90M (which are also both amazing) 🤷♂
@@TurnyPlays The issue is the way Gaijin decided to handle things. It's clear multiple vehicles are not modeled correctly or are missing things. The playerbase has every right to complain when there's double standards, really bad judgement from Gaijin, etc. Their latest devblog shows how bad that judgement can be. The DU armor debate is a prime example of why this judgement isn't good. Despite multiple credible sources saying there were armor upgrades, Gaijin refuses to believe it. That's why people are cracking jokes about where the extra weight on later variants come from. I'm not saying the Abrams are bad tanks, but if other tanks are going to be held and modeled to a certain standard, you shouldn't exclude others.
5 second reload on ace crew with 2nd best round in the game with And yet they still need armor buff, honestly it's team issue. But before you guys angry at me hear me out. Abrams is really the most wanted tank to play in the game RN but since they introduce M1 AIM and now M1A1 HC premium many new low level player just skip and straight up buy this two tanks without experience, and thus get killed easily, and without any backup they just exit the match, and thus less support and lose the match. Even with buff armor it will not boost the winrate. Also if you know Abrams doesn't have reliable armor then play it carefully, and most importantly Situational awareness.
I completely agree with your points, but aside from the incorrectly modeled hull armor/premium spam at top tier I have one other major problem that I don’t see talked about too often, it’s the age of the Americas top MBTs compared to their Russian counterparts. The Sep and the Sep V2 were made around from 1998-2007 (respectively), and the T-80BVM and T-90M are both from around 2013-2017 (I might be a little off). Again as I stated previously, I 100% agree with your points, I just think it’s interesting to see the age gap between top tier vehicles as well
@@I-like-tanki think the age gap didn't really matter too much, because since they introduce T-90M i see a downfall of Russia WR, i believe France has better WR with tank from 2006 and ammo from 1990's, even Italy has better WR compared to Russia.
Not only is this tank a downgrade from the Sep v1 but it’s not even CLOSE to the best top tier mbt I have no idea wtf you’re on about, first of all pen doesn’t fucking matter the spalling is still shit, second of all it’s not the 2nd best round in the game like at all, third of all it’s made of paper, fourth of all the mobility is mediocre compared to other MBTs like Leclerc type 10 t80bvm and challenger 3p/2e and the even the Ariete AMV, this thing is a fucking joke
@@i_nameless_i-jgsdfEvery american tech has only ever faced 2 gens old tech...they rlly never faced propper enemies only farmers using outdated tech without combat knowledge...
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As someone that plays the Big 3 (US, Russia, Germany) top tier, you can instantly see the difference in the line ups. US is filled to the brim with Click-baits and AIMs with an occasional SEP thrown in. Russia is mostly BVMs or B3s with a good chunk of BMP-2Ms and 2S38( for some reason). Meanwhile German teams are absolutely stacked with Leo 2A5 and up, which just lets the hordes of them roll over anything not an MBT.
The big two and only two MURICA and the brits
@@johnathanrudisill7084You mean the island
I think that gajin wanted the britain to be a part of big four considering the ammount of vehicles britain has but something went wrong
Nice to have but when your protection is lacklustre it won't make much of a difference and Gaijin acting like its protection is bad is so annoying, if they don't wanna buff its armor they don't need to make horrible excuses.
Bro, are you complaining about the new Abrams being bad😂 Italy didn't even get a new MBT, and thier old ones are modeled incorrectly
@@arcroyal1258 yeah, Italy got giga griefed. lmao The Arietes even got heavier haha!
Protection is lacklustre...
Apart from not having spall liners it is excellent so be quiet freeaboo
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honestly the reload is way more useful than extra lfp armor. you can knife fight so much better now.
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6:00 lmao and thats somewhow fun to fight against?? how the fuck does t80 take 3 shoots to kill in the middle of the hull like explain this gaijin
Yep, top tier is an absolute disaster at the moment 🤣
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5sec reload? Jeez thats good. :)
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3:01 he had such a long and rich life ahead of him😔
Only thing rich was the Uranium deposit inside his tank ;)
They use modern Abrams with stats from 1970's model. Refuse to add any DU armor or spall protection (which every American tank has had incorporated since the 60's). Every hit either kills you instantly with the huge internal spall or disables multiple systems making you a sitting duck. Only recourse is an honest steam review!
I agree I’m just tired of Russia getting all this cool stuff but America rarely gets it or we have to beat it out of gajin. It’s not just in ground either it’s in air as well because with the new SU you get to skip some of the “bad” missiles making for an easy grind but F-15 has no new things in my opinion.
everyone was complaining about this in the forum and the moderators pretty much telling everyone to F themselves. It is pure hypocrisy how they try to justify the fact the abrams is so horrible in regards to survivability when the tank was specifically designed to save the crew.
i just want balance on my game. i dont care about russia america beef
Maybe abrams is just not that good ? 😂
@@Yomahagava Russian tanks have proven to be excellent throughout history. Excellent at throwing their turrets up in the air after the first hit, yet in war thunder they’re the Jesus of tanks.
It’s a nice buff I just wish it wasn’t done because of their refusal to buff the hull armor
Because There is nothing to buff in the hull
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@@288gto7 Right because why would the US not increase the hull armor thickness of their staple MBT in the span of 43 years.
@@germanspartan2659 because all they do is nuke hospitals in the middle east
@@288gto7ah yes, the increased weight over the years and resulted slower speed is just them packing extremely high density oxygen in it isn't it
Unpopular opinion but the Abrams was never that bad, def not great but not unplayable or anything. Happy it got the reload buff, still think Gaijin should buff the hull armor at least a little like up to 500mm or something but if you play to it's strengths it's very easy to rack up klills. I think the problem with it is that in war thunder a large amount of players are zero skill just hold W and the Abrams doesn't really allow for that whereas other tanks are more forgiving with the hold W style. Leos and T series have better overall armor so you can get away with it more.
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Realistic rear deck turret depression when?
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wait tanks with manual loader can reload faster if not the same as auto-loaded tanks while also having lower ammo replenishment time at about 10 seconds Vs Leclerc or Type 10 which take 30 seconds ! it also has better protection and ammunition than those two tanks ? And some people still acting like Abrams are bad ? lol
Honestly the 5 second reload speed is more op than better armor
Not gonna lie. Kinda love the Abrams now
My favourite modern MBT
Play the Turan tanks pls
Nerf nerf nerf
Oh fun a buff nobody asked for to make up for the absolute BS excuses they made to not add the increased armor or spall liner...amazing...
Why do so many cannons in war thunder sound like your just smacking someone with a dodgeball and not actually shooting a cannon lol
i feel like their drunk
so... the challengers now lost their unique quirk of faster reload. and for abramses it covers their whole ready rack of 20-ish rounds, while on the challengers it was just the first 5.... nice gaijin, cool.
5 second reload?Gaijin being dumb cause Abrams has loader not autoloader poor loader if he had to load shots every 5 seconds and Im not talking about the gun barrel it would be worn out prerry quickly ngl and the worst is that these tanks would be out off ammunition very quickly so yeah
Gaijin is jaelous the abrams is a way better design than their crap
its only better if you pay gaijin $$ to unlock Ace - literally pay to win now but even then USA aint winning - not one person gunna have the patience to grind the mil+ xp for the crew upgrade to ace
wow 5sec the armor of the Abrams in this game is weak. Every Abrams take goes up in weight in the tons and the armor is the same, they mess over US in the game everywhere
Its still a crap tank, tusk 2 should stop tandem shape but it doesn't. Armor is the worst or equal to the worst in the top 5 nations. I just stop playing US ground and just play air.
Still the same shit of armour but 20t heavier.... Since only the russians can have some magic armour that don't even work on real life
Good upload!
it's bc the Abrams hasn't been getting better like the t90m or 2a7v was. both of the seps are basically worse than the m1a2 bc it's just heavier
Theyve made the abrams too bloody powerful now. The constant America Sweden Combos are almost impossible to beat at top tier now.
This sarcasm?
Most of the time, America, Sweden and Russia will be put together against Germany and Britain. its fkd@@mastergun57
The Abrams does everything but impress. Average speed, horrendous armor, non-existent survivability. The only thing good about it is that it has the 2nd best round in the game. Thats it. Besides that its the 2nd worst MBT in the game only beaten by the Ariete, its gonna take alot more than just a reload correction to make it good. There are plenty of other US vehicles in need of corrections too. Stryker missing 3 degrees of drepression, and a reload that is a whole second longer than it is IRL, the M1 Abrams still missing an appropriate round for its BR, the MBT-70 series being heavily over-br'd, and the XM-1s missing usable ammo (theyre officially the worst top tier premium in the game, they should have M774 at minimum) and smoke launchers.
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Still the second worst MBT...still better than the challengers, of course
I've never died because of 6s reload,
but a lot due to the bad armor profile,
and the astonishing amount of spalling enemy apfsds generated penetrating that amor...
my winrate:
M1A2 SEP 45%
Leopard 2A6 61%
T80BVM 72%
lol
bro forgot ariete
Not to be controversial about it, but I really don't understand why people don't like it, I maintained the same K/D in this as I did the 2A7V and T90M (which are also both amazing) 🤷♂
Nope. Not a chance. Ariete, Leclerc are way worse, Italy France, Japan and isreal didn't even receive a new tank so please stop complaining
@@TurnyPlays The issue is the way Gaijin decided to handle things. It's clear multiple vehicles are not modeled correctly or are missing things. The playerbase has every right to complain when there's double standards, really bad judgement from Gaijin, etc. Their latest devblog shows how bad that judgement can be. The DU armor debate is a prime example of why this judgement isn't good. Despite multiple credible sources saying there were armor upgrades, Gaijin refuses to believe it. That's why people are cracking jokes about where the extra weight on later variants come from. I'm not saying the Abrams are bad tanks, but if other tanks are going to be held and modeled to a certain standard, you shouldn't exclude others.
@@arcroyal1258 the Leclerc is amazing what the fuck are you on about
5 second reload on ace crew with 2nd best round in the game with
And yet they still need armor buff, honestly it's team issue.
But before you guys angry at me hear me out. Abrams is really the most wanted tank to play in the game RN but since they introduce M1 AIM and now M1A1 HC premium many new low level player just skip and straight up buy this two tanks without experience, and thus get killed easily, and without any backup they just exit the match, and thus less support and lose the match.
Even with buff armor it will not boost the winrate.
Also if you know Abrams doesn't have reliable armor then play it carefully, and most importantly Situational awareness.
Absolutely. Usa it's only not busted rn because of the aim, kvt, and click bait
I completely agree with your points, but aside from the incorrectly modeled hull armor/premium spam at top tier I have one other major problem that I don’t see talked about too often, it’s the age of the Americas top MBTs compared to their Russian counterparts. The Sep and the Sep V2 were made around from 1998-2007 (respectively), and the T-80BVM and T-90M are both from around 2013-2017 (I might be a little off).
Again as I stated previously, I 100% agree with your points, I just think it’s interesting to see the age gap between top tier vehicles as well
@@I-like-tanki think the age gap didn't really matter too much, because since they introduce T-90M i see a downfall of Russia WR, i believe France has better WR with tank from 2006 and ammo from 1990's, even Italy has better WR compared to Russia.
Not only is this tank a downgrade from the Sep v1 but it’s not even CLOSE to the best top tier mbt I have no idea wtf you’re on about, first of all pen doesn’t fucking matter the spalling is still shit, second of all it’s not the 2nd best round in the game like at all, third of all it’s made of paper, fourth of all the mobility is mediocre compared to other MBTs like Leclerc type 10 t80bvm and challenger 3p/2e and the even the Ariete AMV, this thing is a fucking joke
Grass is always greener dude @@Optimusprime56241
Lol I don't understand the coping of us mains😅😅😂😂
beanz is the least abusive discord mod ever, imagine banning someone bc you consider lowlife a insult.
They just had to make an already great tank quite broken typical snail tactics
Because American Mains just complain:/
It’s not great and it’s nowhere near broken, terrible armor, mediocre round, mediocre mobility
@@Optimusprime56241 Skill issue
@@arcroyal1258 skill issue if you think it’s OP 💀
@@Optimusprime56241 I've just got the newest one and even without being fully upgraded it shines through above others
Lmao I'm loving the freeaboos whining here
Bu- but muh Abrams are proven against the Iraqi (cheaply knock off) T-72 therefore = it is the best tank in the world ! >:(
@@i_nameless_i-jgsdfEvery american tech has only ever faced 2 gens old tech...they rlly never faced propper enemies only farmers using outdated tech without combat knowledge...
@@i_nameless_i-jgsdf the protection analysis of every 11.7BR can speak for itself. gaslight your mom not me
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Lil bro got triggered for no reason boohoo cry to your mommy now 💀
@@M0LOCKwell shit some Ukrainian farmers with america equipment are giving the ruzzies a hard time.