It's comforting to know I'm not the only one who swings the camera around while using the Indignatus Crusher. I'm almost entirely convinced it makes a difference.
I know it as "screen swiping" so you are literally changing where your attack travels and lands and it's an essential crowd control technique. Let's you hit far wider with that control and you may even be able to swipe at an enemy behind you because of it.
this is the mf in vermintide going 1v50 against a horde of elites and chaos warriors that all one shot him and coming away unscathed after 10 minutes of kiting
@@Reginald-sc9tk he'd struggle a bit with the multiple crushers but that's because I suck and don't get much opportunity to practice this build against these scenarios solo. I'm certain someone better at the game could annihilate this squad in 45 seconds without taking any health damage using my funny pickaxe build. :3
in an open space dealing with an infinite amount of crushers and maulers is pretty chill they have one of the slowest most telegraphed attacks i dont know why someone would doubt anyones ability to pull stuff like this off
Especially if you know the layout of the space. If they have a particularly bad attack order you can just reset. Doing this in some corner with horde blocking your retreat and/or rangers gunning you down is more realistic and most times literally impossible
I struggle with actually seeing the attack animation when enough of them are clipping through each other. My brain just turns it into a blur of swinging limbs. Obviously kiting them such that you only ever face a couple at a time is important, but enemy collision (or lack thereof) does kinda bum me out.
I think it would be really instructive to do a few more of these, not necessarily with all 16 of the elites, but on different maps showing off different kite routes! My map knowledge is very basic as far as kiting goes.
@@Reginald-sc9tk what do you think about crusher having slaughterer now? Over the top maybe? Because I feel like after I switched hammerblow with slaughterer I'm basically just a space marine pulverizing heretics
I think fatshark is scared. Fatshark is scared that if they introduce solo play they will get a bunch of idiotic feedback from a bunch of idiots who shouldn't even be playing solo. This game is already way more fair than VT1 thanks to the truesolo community despite the fact that their focus with vt1 was to make a game balanced for coop. (Remember when the assassin was actually silent? But it was okay because 4 players could just look everywhere while true solo players made mods and cried about its existence?) I think fs is afraid somerhing similar will happen which is dumb because they can always ignore dumb feedback. But they like to take dumb feedback to heart.
Type of situation in game that can be easier after the rest of your team is dead. I had a patrol last week just like this test one wipe my team because they scattered, panicked, and tried to shoot them once they were close. It was a really easy kite area and I had a thunder hammer so I was able to fix it pretty quick but it does seem like most people see that much armor and rager and either freeze up or give up.
You could definitely manage that with some practice. The most important part is looking at how he's using the dropdown to train them and spread them out to be able to make the front end manageable.
that's why i was so opposed to the introduction of the daemonhost because it goes against everything tide games are (in my opinion) like requiring a specific build instead of your skill using just blocks, dodges, the enviroment and being able to solo everything.
Daemonhost attacks are both consistent and predictable. You can dodge the 5-hit combo with 3 dodges every time, at which point they will do 2-3 single hits and loop the chain. You can also manipulate them around terrain, as they always teleport in front of the player.
Nicely done. Chain weapons are almost perfect! I just want them to be LOUDER!!! I also wish they had built in bleed for fun... like 1 - 2 stacks nothing crazy. Could prob have some fun blessings to go with that.
Patience with a chain axe? Yeah that's hard. Patience with the crusher? Yeah fam if you can't be patient with the crusher and it's insane cc potential whatchya doing. 😅
I just tried this myself, took a few attempts, but i was able to do it with the eviscerator in the psykhanium. I think i'm gonna work on trying to make it happen with the thunder hammer and knife as well.
It wouldn't let me do it on the other video for reasons i can't fathom. But you can find my funny single target pickaxe build on darktide lantern by searching Jim's pickaxe
The stamina is literally the least important thing going on here, it has no effect on his dodges and 99% of it was used for push attacks the spacing, capitalizing on making the mobs path in certain ways and geometry knowledge were what made it possible.
You can totally do melee only on any difficulty even in maelstrom. I have a zealot character in which I've never fired a single shot into an enemy. I started it as a challenge to myself because I wanted to make a Khorne worshiper character. With several hundred hours into that character alone I can confirm that you have to play it very aggressively. If there is a gunner you are running at them if there is a sniper you are running at them. With the new itemization overhaul I imagine this is only going to be easier with building weapons that support the gameplay style. I'd like to say many of your videos definitely helped me with that character. Your early videos on chain weapons saved me a lot of time in testing and allowed me to get two more gameplay.
@@Reginald-sc9tk I have not but I'm guessing you would have to use mods to accomplish playing solo. Myself I am not much of a modder in any game, even RPGs. So respectfully I will decline. Besides co-op is my favorite way to play any game. If you have any interest I would love to play with you for a game or two. No worries if you can't I'm sure you get that request often from people.
@@PhantomHacksaw You're welcome to come hang out for a game or two or more. The goobers in my server are a goofy lot but everyone is generally speaking nice. discord.gg/GgYfBgm8
It seems like a lot of players never think about the fact that they can run away from enemies and kite them around. Obviously this would be impossible if you just charged in, stood still, and hammered m1. But like... don't do that? With enough space you could kill 1000 crushers. Nice vid.
I somewhat understand saying that in mention of the chainaxe but did they seriously say this about Crusher? Crusher might be the single best weapon when outnumbered by armor if I'm being honest. Well except for whatever an Ogryn can bring because there's truly very little that can withstand spamming Heavy 1 Slab Shield with Ogryns silly toughness regen and stagger.
@@Reginald-sc9tk The temp is alright, already found the cause probably because of latency issue most of the time its happening after i finish the mission i have like 400ms in ping
B-B-BUT IF YOU USE THE META WEAPONS AND MY COOKIE CUTTER META BUILD YOU CAN KILL THEM ALL IN 10 SECONDS. YOU'RE JUST WASTING TIME, STOP HAVING FUN YOU HAVE TO USE THE META REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE. Cool showcase. Just goes to show anything can be usable when player skill is backing it up.
Throw in the random grunt spawn behind you to body block your dodge or hit you and id call lit good. I've made plenty of clutch moments like this myself. Not even close to being too hard. it does require map knowledge and good decision making though.
I genuinely don't understand what's going on here. Are you trying to do a melee only run. Seems like that would be really really really easy for veteran players to do if nothing is shooting at you from every direction.
Thats correct. Its just a melee only challenge that someone said could not be done. Its not really easy but its completely within the skill set of a skilled player.
Why don't you try using Bloodthirsty for the first part? I run with Slaugtherer + Bloodthirsty and after the first special kill things become easy with activated special + light attack on Maulers and special + heavy on crushers ,no need to use awkwardly use the Thrust blessing Seems you are using the Rev it up + Slaughterer ,which is also a fine choice for the showcase. Also you have stamina up the whazoo ,I haven't seen people run 3x stamina curios ,but for this kind of test is ok. As for the Crusher weapon ,this thing can solo 100100101 crushers if you put an impact blessing on it ,it just takes time.
Bloodletter and Headtaker is king for MK4 Chaxe. The point of the showcase is to use my usual gear so I wouldn't generally run bloodthirsty so I didn't here. The crusher has the traditional best blessings as well, though this was before Unlocked and Loaded which puts Slaughterer on the table. +9 stamina is just how i play.
@@Reginald-sc9tk oh ,I thought you were using Mk12 ,which is why I suggested the blessings I run with / slaughterer and bloodthirsty/ I should try the mk4 i guess
@@FirelordLafiel If you're especially bored I wrote the manual on the Mk4, i've got a video in my catalogue. I'll take your advice on trying out bloodthirsty for the MK12. Though with the improved stagger push attack on it its much better than it was much to my joy.
In a real game you back out into terrain that works in your favor, but much like real life chokes make this easier as the number of positions enemies are allowed to attack you from is reduced. I could probably do it no problem with a Crusher but not a Chaxe.
I've never played a war hammer game, but im confident i could pull this off, why?, because i have terrible accuracy but im a badass with melee, in resident evil 4 remake i failed to kill one regenerator with a full mag but killed 3 back to back with a knife 😂
Very good play, but how do you judge melee distance? One of the biggest reasons I kinda quit playing (other than no ammo so it's practically just Vermentide 2) is the melee ranges felt so off and like I would get hit way out of what the range of the weapon looks to be, and my melee would miss when they are up my ass.
It just depends on the weapon, some weapons have weird ranges others feel more natural. Lately thats improved with player feedback. But it ultimately comes down to experience. For the chaxe I have like 500 hours in the weapon. The crusher is just so good at stagger that ranges aren't as important.
I feel like it would be almost binary win loss; either you are able to dodge all the disablers, or a dog or trapper could wonk out, and all the snipers had extra mountain dew that morning
@@Reginald-sc9tki hope they make it better and I have a really good chain axe on my vet I just suck dealing with basic hordes with it. I always end up taking chip damage somehow. Push attack followup i somehow screw up sometimes. I do just need to play with the weapon more though.
Can i ask what's the challenge here exactly? Not to brag but there are no annoying specialists to really mess with player's decisions, and this point of a map is great for running circles. Is it a practice for a solo auric maelstrom melee only? That's sounds interesting then!
@@Leo.23232 I don't think someone said that he's just beating himself off bc its more badass to prove someone wrong on a challenge than set your own goal for yourself
Someone did, in fact, tell me and several other people that it absolutely could not be done and was impossible. I think its a very good testing system though.
Its reasonably hard by itself I will say. I can't do it with my psyker, I can do it within a few tries with my zealot and a few more tries with Vet (not shout). Both using Chain Axe Mk4. The indycrusher is great and it took like two tries to do it thanks to all the stagger. I invented a melee only challenge you can play solo on hab drayko if you really want to test your mettle across a whole game with specialists and all.
Oh, so it is mostly a chainaxe challenge then? It shouldn't be that hard with a dueling sword and skier gaze. But i can see that this would be hard with chainaxe on psyker. Only melee Hab Drayko? Thanks, but i am not a fan of putting my balls in a hydraulic press! At least not yet
Based sprint-acceleration canceler. I feel like this game kinda misses the "stand your ground" sweetspot that modded Vermintide managed to achieve. At high level group-play in Darktide, you don't need to stand your ground because you just instantly murder everything. At high level solo or duo play, you generally CAN'T stand your ground, and just have to kite forever. Kiting isn't necessarily unenjoyable, but I miss the hold-the-line mentality that a coordinated team in Vermintide would take, picking a position and attempting to avoid giving up ground for as long as possible. I don't know if that's because just not enough stuff spawns in Darktide, or because movement is much stronger - maybe a combination of both. And while I complain about this, Velsix is cooking up his Kite Together verminmod to incentivize MORE kiting. Grass is always greener I guess.
Disable enemy spawns is on... The problem isn't can you do this, it's can you do it consistently in an actual mission where more enemies are continuously spawning and you might get disablers like nets or dogs flanking you while you kite everything I mean imagine a boss appeared during this, or a horde spawned in, or a pack of dogs showed up Yes, it's theoretically possible to deal with all that solo, but usually it'll be a wipe
The third video is just a live solo game. But the point you are making is not wholly wrong. At the same time you can go watch true duos monstrous specialists and in most games you are not solo so two or three players diving into melee don't even need to kite like this.
Have you seen telopots play this game or choco B? Telopots does exactly what youre referrencing all the time on stream. Also the same enemies are always the most dangerous in this game no matter what youre doing. Trappers and dogs and chaos spawns and bombers and flamers are always lethal. If you watch people true duo or clutch enough sometimes they get trapped or pounced on it happens sometimes.
"Can you do it consistently in an actual mission, with continuous spawns?" Yes, because crushers and maulers are predictable 99% of the time, unless they silent spawn. Manipulating elites while fighting other enemies is a skill you need to learn, much like everything else in this game. "Yes, it's theoretically possible to deal with all that solo, but usually it'll be a wipe." If you're bad, this is true. In actuality, it's only a wipe if you have no space and a bad loadout you took on purpose. You can kite enemies infinitely and it isn't hard, you just need a space wide enough to do it, which you'll only ever not have if you just dropped from a ledge into a tight room.
You can absolutely do this consistently in an actual mission, if by consistently you mean "for absurdly long periods of time" as opposed to by win-rate. Hishock is beatable solo, although it's far from easy. The hardest barrier once you've got the mechanics down is doing this for 60+ minutes without making a mistake or dying to a bug.
Who said you couldn't kite the A.I. ? If you run away enough you win ... sure, the A.I. can't think and mindlessly pursues you into any bottleneck, environmental obstacle, etc. The same people who think Darktide is hard is the same group who thinks Dark Souls is impossible, with enough patience you can solo at least Auric HI-STG.
It's 2024 mate, no one considers Souls impossible, which does not change the fact that the game is hard and so is highest difficulty Darktide cause both require a lot of patience and training
@@OniGanon light attack on mark 4 also stagger. First tick does the impact follow up tick does numbers. This also works with push then follow up attack. The main drawback is sticky lights against chaff. The camera gets wonky when poxxer doesn't die on first hit.
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dont let fatshark see the 6 second clip when you run this test with dueling sword
DS on zealot is very strong
my friend group has a rule not run duelling swords so we can actually play the game
@@Reginald-sc9tk sir the administration wishes to speak with you. we don't talk about that here
Behold my Krak appearing every 60s as if delivered by the emp himself
You can't just keep calling me "your krak grenade" every time I charge into melee
@@Reginald-sc9tk Mechanicus class with Reginald-Servitor minion when?
@@mr6291 just play with pubs
@@Reginald-sc9tk HAHAHAH
It's comforting to know I'm not the only one who swings the camera around while using the Indignatus Crusher.
I'm almost entirely convinced it makes a difference.
It does. Same with the ogryn pickaxe and shield. You may not damage those outside of cleave limits, but you are staggering them or knocking them down.
I know it as "screen swiping" so you are literally changing where your attack travels and lands and it's an essential crowd control technique. Let's you hit far wider with that control and you may even be able to swipe at an enemy behind you because of it.
Its not just cool, it does (as the others have said) actually work. Up to the stagger cleave cap. You may not deal damage but it can knock stuff over.
Also works with catachan parries.
I kinda play this game like Chivalry or Mordhau, even tho i'm almost convinced you cant drag or accel 😂
this is the mf in vermintide going 1v50 against a horde of elites and chaos warriors that all one shot him and coming away unscathed after 10 minutes of kiting
For some reason I never got comfortable with dealing with a big pack of elites in vermintide 2. Maybe it just really clicked in darktide
Best way to prove someone wrong is to show 'em how it's done.
WP Reg.
Crusher is truly the definition of "slow and steady, dont panic"
Only their overheads are slow. Regular attacks aren't slow at all, you don't have much time to react.
If someone says this can't be done, just direct them to Dray's channel. This is like Tuesday for him.
Got a link?
@@Reginald-sc9tk Too many to link and I can't link in a comment. You can probably search for "darktide 1 hp completely surrounded" to find an example.
Or ChocoB
I just like my pickaxe build that one shots anything that doesn't have a health bar
I bet ogryn solo's this easypz
@@Reginald-sc9tk he'd struggle a bit with the multiple crushers but that's because I suck and don't get much opportunity to practice this build against these scenarios solo.
I'm certain someone better at the game could annihilate this squad in 45 seconds without taking any health damage using my funny pickaxe build. :3
in an open space dealing with an infinite amount of crushers and maulers is pretty chill they have one of the slowest most telegraphed attacks i dont know why someone would doubt anyones ability to pull stuff like this off
Especially if you know the layout of the space. If they have a particularly bad attack order you can just reset. Doing this in some corner with horde blocking your retreat and/or rangers gunning you down is more realistic and most times literally impossible
I struggle with actually seeing the attack animation when enough of them are clipping through each other. My brain just turns it into a blur of swinging limbs. Obviously kiting them such that you only ever face a couple at a time is important, but enemy collision (or lack thereof) does kinda bum me out.
That is the core threat for a lot of enemies, because otherwise they're very predictable. Its a flaw IMO.
god I wish the dodge tracker was built into the base UI.
Its really helpful
This is the situation my psyker finds herself in while i look away for one second and my team dissapears
Armor clowncar surprise visit
Looking forward to seeing more vids with other weapons. Am keen to see with a thunderhammer.
I'm working my way there for sure
1:34 that scab rager stepped back knowing he was about to get his dome shredded lol
ah yes, the long awaited sequel to " french kruber smacking 25 chaos warriors about with a bigass sword"
I think it would be really instructive to do a few more of these, not necessarily with all 16 of the elites, but on different maps showing off different kite routes! My map knowledge is very basic as far as kiting goes.
maybe I could do kite routes in midpoints?
I love the flow of Crushers swings
I feel that
This is a masterclass in kiting and position.
Brav-fucking-O
average zealot:
Behold the power of the stagger stick.
Too true.
The biggest secret to Darktide is realising that you have all the time in the world and dont have to stand and constantly rush forward 😂
Tell that to randoms
Rough day at the office
Well, that someone just forgot one detail...
... the Emperor protects.
The emperor protects!
@@Reginald-sc9tk The EMPRA PROTECTS!
The rest is fancy footwork and target priority. Well done.
Love it when people give the crusher a whirl. I rarely see it being used.
That was a great display of how to handle situations like these 👍
well played, but lets be honest you could have kill three times that amount with the crusher if you had to.
The crusher is super strong, without a doubt. It was very easy compared to the chaxe.
Chain axe has a different role than the crusher yeah
@@Reginald-sc9tk what do you think about crusher having slaughterer now? Over the top maybe? Because I feel like after I switched hammerblow with slaughterer I'm basically just a space marine pulverizing heretics
@@Lucas92191 Pretty sure putting Slaughterer on it is insane. I've heard tale of 2 shots on crushers. It was already zealots strongest weapon.
I think fatshark is scared. Fatshark is scared that if they introduce solo play they will get a bunch of idiotic feedback from a bunch of idiots who shouldn't even be playing solo. This game is already way more fair than VT1 thanks to the truesolo community despite the fact that their focus with vt1 was to make a game balanced for coop. (Remember when the assassin was actually silent? But it was okay because 4 players could just look everywhere while true solo players made mods and cried about its existence?) I think fs is afraid somerhing similar will happen which is dumb because they can always ignore dumb feedback. But they like to take dumb feedback to heart.
Type of situation in game that can be easier after the rest of your team is dead. I had a patrol last week just like this test one wipe my team because they scattered, panicked, and tried to shoot them once they were close. It was a really easy kite area and I had a thunder hammer so I was able to fix it pretty quick but it does seem like most people see that much armor and rager and either freeze up or give up.
Well I couldn't do that. But that's a skill issue on my part. Nice work.
I bet you could with practice
You could definitely manage that with some practice. The most important part is looking at how he's using the dropdown to train them and spread them out to be able to make the front end manageable.
didnt ever think i was good enough to get out of malice, but now me and my buddy are running auric. anyone can cook!
@@Reginald-sc9tk Oh yeah totally. Just a time and effort sort of thing.
The guy who said that is capable of only shooting crushers with hand-cannon zarona, lol
Lol prolly
And I thought I was good at this game...
The skill curve is the best part of DT
@@Reginald-sc9tk And like the Inquisition, a HARSH MISTRESS!
that's why i was so opposed to the introduction of the daemonhost because it goes against everything tide games are (in my opinion) like requiring a specific build instead of your skill using just blocks, dodges, the enviroment and being able to solo everything.
I don't dislike daemonhost, I mostly just avoid them. I think the worst part of that enemy is that I mostly don't engage with it
Daemonhost attacks are both consistent and predictable. You can dodge the 5-hit combo with 3 dodges every time, at which point they will do 2-3 single hits and loop the chain. You can also manipulate them around terrain, as they always teleport in front of the player.
@@justind5098 or you can 3 shot them with thunderhammer :D
@@justind5098 really? I need to practice then.
They have way less health than you’d expect
Definitely seeing a Khorne Cultist Build in action 👌🏻😎
Master see my deeds! This line hits hard especially in a video like this
Playing with a console player once drove bro crazy enough to record a message
It's the size of the fight in the dog
Average zealot enjoyer.
Now try that with no rending sword. That's gonna be too easy for you. Also add 3 bulwarks and 1 flamer and 1 trapper.
Just so you know you can set up hotkeys to toggle invisibility and invincibility in Creature Spawner.
I dont have any more room lol
Nicely done. Chain weapons are almost perfect! I just want them to be LOUDER!!! I also wish they had built in bleed for fun... like 1 - 2 stacks nothing crazy. Could prob have some fun blessings to go with that.
I wish they had built in bleed too.
Man, i do NOT miss the chainaxe we had two years ago...
I kinda miss the funny left->left strike though.
Very impressive, Reg! :)
Patience with a chain axe? Yeah that's hard.
Patience with the crusher? Yeah fam if you can't be patient with the crusher and it's insane cc potential whatchya doing. 😅
You had me at chainaxe
holy terra
I just tried this myself, took a few attempts, but i was able to do it with the eviscerator in the psykhanium. I think i'm gonna work on trying to make it happen with the thunder hammer and knife as well.
Nice. I'm using it to test my builds for melee capacity myself.
It wouldn't let me do it on the other video for reasons i can't fathom. But you can find my funny single target pickaxe build on darktide lantern by searching Jim's pickaxe
Found it
@@Reginald-sc9tk Yahoo!
Based Chain Axe enjoyer
God I love chain axe
@@Reginald-sc9tki remember when there were only like 2 chain axe chuds in the... Shall i say "thread". Good times.
dude this is impressive now lets see you do it with a pox flamer. Add some pressure to the mix.
I applaud the skill and I actually think I could do this. Definitely with all that stamina
The stamina is literally the least important thing going on here, it has no effect on his dodges and 99% of it was used for push attacks the spacing, capitalizing on making the mobs path in certain ways and geometry knowledge were what made it possible.
Is this an accolade finally?
definitely not. I don't have any accolades, remember?
You can totally do melee only on any difficulty even in maelstrom. I have a zealot character in which I've never fired a single shot into an enemy. I started it as a challenge to myself because I wanted to make a Khorne worshiper character. With several hundred hours into that character alone I can confirm that you have to play it very aggressively. If there is a gunner you are running at them if there is a sniper you are running at them. With the new itemization overhaul I imagine this is only going to be easier with building weapons that support the gameplay style.
I'd like to say many of your videos definitely helped me with that character. Your early videos on chain weapons saved me a lot of time in testing and allowed me to get two more gameplay.
I'm glad my videos helped. Have you tried my solo melee only challenge? It's a bit deranged but its fun.
@@Reginald-sc9tk I have not but I'm guessing you would have to use mods to accomplish playing solo. Myself I am not much of a modder in any game, even RPGs. So respectfully I will decline. Besides co-op is my favorite way to play any game. If you have any interest I would love to play with you for a game or two. No worries if you can't I'm sure you get that request often from people.
@@PhantomHacksaw You're welcome to come hang out for a game or two or more. The goobers in my server are a goofy lot but everyone is generally speaking nice.
discord.gg/GgYfBgm8
@@Reginald-sc9tk Sorry lol I saw this to late and it is a dead link now.
@@PhantomHacksaw discord.gg/bpjuVdRw
here's a new one.
It seems like a lot of players never think about the fact that they can run away from enemies and kite them around. Obviously this would be impossible if you just charged in, stood still, and hammered m1. But like... don't do that? With enough space you could kill 1000 crushers. Nice vid.
I somewhat understand saying that in mention of the chainaxe but did they seriously say this about Crusher? Crusher might be the single best weapon when outnumbered by armor if I'm being honest. Well except for whatever an Ogryn can bring because there's truly very little that can withstand spamming Heavy 1 Slab Shield with Ogryns silly toughness regen and stagger.
They seriously said zealot could not do it with any weapon. Obviously the Crusher can do it with barely a whinge.
No bulwarks?
I hate bulwarks. They're so tedious.
Rinse and repeat for 25-30 minutes, ez pz
Too true. Or just bring an ogryn lol
over 700 hrs in this game, i still havent touched it in months. it sucks man, i loved this game, but i wholeheartedly despise fatshark
I understand but if you like the game, just play it and don't buy anything.
yeah well maybe it's just that you're hard
IM A THICK AND HARD GUY
The king the mk4
Wait, CRUSHER good? 😮
Yea it got buffed a while back and is very likely Zealot's strongest weapon.
Anyone know how to reduce stutters, i've been experiencing it a lot
Maybe check that your system is getting properly cooled
@@Reginald-sc9tk The temp is alright, already found the cause probably because of latency issue most of the time its happening after i finish the mission i have like 400ms in ping
B-B-BUT IF YOU USE THE META WEAPONS AND MY COOKIE CUTTER META BUILD YOU CAN KILL THEM ALL IN 10 SECONDS. YOU'RE JUST WASTING TIME, STOP HAVING FUN YOU HAVE TO USE THE META REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE.
Cool showcase. Just goes to show anything can be usable when player skill is backing it up.
Noooo you HAVE to play meta! Nooooo!
Could you give the build for the crusher setup? It's my personal favorite weapon for zealot
I dont have it handy. Telopots probably has a good build for it though.
Cool video but how many stamina curios are you running?
Throw in the random grunt spawn behind you to body block your dodge or hit you and id call lit good. I've made plenty of clutch moments like this myself. Not even close to being too hard. it does require map knowledge and good decision making though.
That one little groaner ruining your perfect run. I cry every teim.
Holy shit
I appreciate your high praise.
@@Reginald-sc9tk I appreciate your hard work.
I genuinely don't understand what's going on here. Are you trying to do a melee only run. Seems like that would be really really really easy for veteran players to do if nothing is shooting at you from every direction.
Thats correct. Its just a melee only challenge that someone said could not be done. Its not really easy but its completely within the skill set of a skilled player.
what's the takeaway, beside Chainaxe being a struggle ?
Its simply proof that the challenge can be achieved. Really someone said zealot cannot melee this kind of enemy ball and win, ever.
Why don't you try using Bloodthirsty for the first part? I run with Slaugtherer + Bloodthirsty and after the first special kill things become easy with activated special + light attack on Maulers and special + heavy on crushers ,no need to use awkwardly use the Thrust blessing
Seems you are using the Rev it up + Slaughterer ,which is also a fine choice for the showcase.
Also you have stamina up the whazoo ,I haven't seen people run 3x stamina curios ,but for this kind of test is ok.
As for the Crusher weapon ,this thing can solo 100100101 crushers if you put an impact blessing on it ,it just takes time.
Bloodletter and Headtaker is king for MK4 Chaxe. The point of the showcase is to use my usual gear so I wouldn't generally run bloodthirsty so I didn't here.
The crusher has the traditional best blessings as well, though this was before Unlocked and Loaded which puts Slaughterer on the table.
+9 stamina is just how i play.
@@Reginald-sc9tk oh ,I thought you were using Mk12 ,which is why I suggested the blessings I run with / slaughterer and bloodthirsty/ I should try the mk4 i guess
@@FirelordLafiel If you're especially bored I wrote the manual on the Mk4, i've got a video in my catalogue. I'll take your advice on trying out bloodthirsty for the MK12. Though with the improved stagger push attack on it its much better than it was much to my joy.
Now try doing it in a narrow street, nerd, not in an open field.
In a real game you back out into terrain that works in your favor, but much like real life chokes make this easier as the number of positions enemies are allowed to attack you from is reduced. I could probably do it no problem with a Crusher but not a Chaxe.
Oh damn
I've never played a war hammer game, but im confident i could pull this off, why?, because i have terrible accuracy but im a badass with melee, in resident evil 4 remake i failed to kill one regenerator with a full mag but killed 3 back to back with a knife 😂
Nice!
Wait what was the challenge? Just a bunch of melee enemies? and they possed it to you the "solo melee only with pre-buffed chainaxe" guy?
Yes lol. Correct.
Very good play, but how do you judge melee distance? One of the biggest reasons I kinda quit playing (other than no ammo so it's practically just Vermentide 2) is the melee ranges felt so off and like I would get hit way out of what the range of the weapon looks to be, and my melee would miss when they are up my ass.
It just depends on the weapon, some weapons have weird ranges others feel more natural. Lately thats improved with player feedback. But it ultimately comes down to experience. For the chaxe I have like 500 hours in the weapon. The crusher is just so good at stagger that ranges aren't as important.
Okay but can you fight 5 of every special at once??
That would likely be easier in a way.
I feel like it would be almost binary win loss; either you are able to dodge all the disablers, or a dog or trapper could wonk out, and all the snipers had extra mountain dew that morning
Is the power maul as good as that crusher is now? Never see anyone using power maul but I have one thats well rolled.
No, its a very sad weapon
@@Reginald-sc9tki hope they make it better and I have a really good chain axe on my vet I just suck dealing with basic hordes with it. I always end up taking chip damage somehow. Push attack followup i somehow screw up sometimes. I do just need to play with the weapon more though.
Which mod shows your true level?
True Level! That's the name of it.
Can i ask what's the challenge here exactly? Not to brag but there are no annoying specialists to really mess with player's decisions, and this point of a map is great for running circles.
Is it a practice for a solo auric maelstrom melee only? That's sounds interesting then!
read the description, apparantly someone told him it couldn't be done. he never claimed its super hard to do or anything
@@Leo.23232 I don't think someone said that he's just beating himself off bc its more badass to prove someone wrong on a challenge than set your own goal for yourself
Someone did, in fact, tell me and several other people that it absolutely could not be done and was impossible. I think its a very good testing system though.
Its reasonably hard by itself I will say. I can't do it with my psyker, I can do it within a few tries with my zealot and a few more tries with Vet (not shout). Both using Chain Axe Mk4. The indycrusher is great and it took like two tries to do it thanks to all the stagger. I invented a melee only challenge you can play solo on hab drayko if you really want to test your mettle across a whole game with specialists and all.
Oh, so it is mostly a chainaxe challenge then? It shouldn't be that hard with a dueling sword and skier gaze. But i can see that this would be hard with chainaxe on psyker.
Only melee Hab Drayko? Thanks, but i am not a fan of putting my balls in a hydraulic press!
At least not yet
Nah, i'd win.l
I believe you
Yet the hammer can one shot every elite in this game.
After it recieved the buffs i hoped for, yes.
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Niceeee
Based sprint-acceleration canceler.
I feel like this game kinda misses the "stand your ground" sweetspot that modded Vermintide managed to achieve. At high level group-play in Darktide, you don't need to stand your ground because you just instantly murder everything. At high level solo or duo play, you generally CAN'T stand your ground, and just have to kite forever. Kiting isn't necessarily unenjoyable, but I miss the hold-the-line mentality that a coordinated team in Vermintide would take, picking a position and attempting to avoid giving up ground for as long as possible. I don't know if that's because just not enough stuff spawns in Darktide, or because movement is much stronger - maybe a combination of both. And while I complain about this, Velsix is cooking up his Kite Together verminmod to incentivize MORE kiting. Grass is always greener I guess.
Grass is always greener i guess. I do feel you. It's nice to be able to just fight.
Disable enemy spawns is on...
The problem isn't can you do this, it's can you do it consistently in an actual mission where more enemies are continuously spawning and you might get disablers like nets or dogs flanking you while you kite everything
I mean imagine a boss appeared during this, or a horde spawned in, or a pack of dogs showed up
Yes, it's theoretically possible to deal with all that solo, but usually it'll be a wipe
The third video is just a live solo game. But the point you are making is not wholly wrong. At the same time you can go watch true duos monstrous specialists and in most games you are not solo so two or three players diving into melee don't even need to kite like this.
Have you seen telopots play this game or choco B? Telopots does exactly what youre referrencing all the time on stream. Also the same enemies are always the most dangerous in this game no matter what youre doing. Trappers and dogs and chaos spawns and bombers and flamers are always lethal. If you watch people true duo or clutch enough sometimes they get trapped or pounced on it happens sometimes.
"Can you do it consistently in an actual mission, with continuous spawns?"
Yes, because crushers and maulers are predictable 99% of the time, unless they silent spawn. Manipulating elites while fighting other enemies is a skill you need to learn, much like everything else in this game.
"Yes, it's theoretically possible to deal with all that solo, but usually it'll be a wipe."
If you're bad, this is true. In actuality, it's only a wipe if you have no space and a bad loadout you took on purpose. You can kite enemies infinitely and it isn't hard, you just need a space wide enough to do it, which you'll only ever not have if you just dropped from a ledge into a tight room.
You can absolutely do this consistently in an actual mission, if by consistently you mean "for absurdly long periods of time" as opposed to by win-rate. Hishock is beatable solo, although it's far from easy. The hardest barrier once you've got the mechanics down is doing this for 60+ minutes without making a mistake or dying to a bug.
Who said you couldn't kite the A.I. ? If you run away enough you win ... sure, the A.I. can't think and mindlessly pursues you into any bottleneck, environmental obstacle, etc. The same people who think Darktide is hard is the same group who thinks Dark Souls is impossible, with enough patience you can solo at least Auric HI-STG.
Absolutely. That's the best part about Darktide really. You can do what you have the skill to achieve.
You can solo auric maelstrom monster special missions and people do lol
It's 2024 mate, no one considers Souls impossible, which does not change the fact that the game is hard and so is highest difficulty Darktide cause both require a lot of patience and training
@@infrared6973 I haven't seen anyone run a full solo on monstrous yet, telopots mostly did one. Got a link?
Slow.
Chainaxe + opportunist is op and deserves a try by most people.
Haven't had a chance to test it myself, yet.
Opportunist? Rending vs Staggered enemies? What exactly counts as a staggered enemy? Is the special attack a stagger?
@@OniGanon light attack on mark 4 also stagger. First tick does the impact follow up tick does numbers. This also works with push then follow up attack. The main drawback is sticky lights against chaff. The camera gets wonky when poxxer doesn't die on first hit.
@@OniGanon enemies who are staggered look like they've been staggered. Its really that simple.