i mean, it's obvious in hindsight that if you just converted Orthodox and back to Muslim 4 times, all of your relations issues with the Muslims would be solved, but it might not have been clear back then.
Also a tip for the religion flipping part: you can force dominant religion recalculation by privateering (or switching node if you were already privateering) and letting a day pass, instead of waiting for the month tick Edit: also you don't need to dev to get 30% crown land, because you'll get the Dhimmi lands when you swap to Orthodox the first time.
@@Donerci_Pikacu_Usta I formed Persia as Ardabil after I switched to Zoroastrianism. The game took away my holy order button and all the ones I created.
Stronger than HRE without privilegia, as you can increase your income from them with Income from Vassals, you don't need to be stuck as Catholic, you don't need to worry about votes, you don't need to worry about diplo slots (allying electors), you aren't limited to only europe, or to directly bordering existing imperial provinces, you don't incur buckets of AE for expanding your "empire", You can reconquest their cores and control the war, they won't be infighting and lowering your Imperial Authority. you don't need to convert them to your state religion. I'm sure more that I don't know about.
For the Heavy Ships, that Burgher privilege does wonders. depending on the size of your nation you get 6 or so heavy ships for half the time and no cost
i've been playing this game for like 6k hours and I'm actually amazed how much weird and different playstyles there are out there, lol. Cool campaign, it was fun to watch. It's starts like Bob Ross "RUINED" moment and turns into "SAVED" pretty quickly. Thanks for the upload.
a tip for future videos, dont say "Proclaim guarantee "Here" " or "rival this "guy" ", "This province "here" " the quality will improve a lot if you say the country names, province names and character names even if they might be hard to pronounce...
@@Theplaymaker57 Don't worry about the pronunciation, most top EU4 youtubers make big pronunciation mistakes aswell. But when you just say "Guy" "Place" "This one" instead of the names its not that fun to watch... Just a tip.
You can get a WC by 1600 with eyalets then integrate them to the endgame ıf you stack War score cost take the whole country release countryies ıf you have to then one point you will have literally infinite manpower
Tried it. Works. I'll have to do this again at some point to get good at it, but here are some tips: 1. Make sure you promote to eyelet at the right time, or not only will you lose diplo their liberty desire will go through the roof. 2. Also make sure Orthodox and Suni are as even as possible. It was very annoying for me to switch back and forth. I had to exploit in all Orthodox provinces. 3. Swap religions 5 times, not 4. You can't get 250 relation, but there are some debuffs that might happen, and it will keep them happy for longer. 4. Hire a diplo reputation guy ASAP. That's one of the things that counts towards vassalizing points. 5. Only ally or guarantee countries which get the boost. 6. Don't hire a mill adviser. I always forget when playing Ottobros.
Remember me from ur old videos? x) I'm glad you kept at it, you make some of the best eu4 content nowadays and I really enjoyed this vid as well. Great job!
I wonder how much of the HRE you could diplo-vassalize if you dismantle (obviously, while at low AE). Always trickier with other religions but certainly possible. There's some special glory for conquering half the world without taking any provinces xD
i started as ardabil opm formed persia then eranshahr... had to console command in zoroatrianism cos i dont have any dlcs after emperor and its normally on a mission i think.. now i have yemen and syria as vassals... thought id spread the love before america gets too strong! lol
Thanks for this. I've seen a lot of people on the EU4 subreddit talk about doing that "flip back and forth between Orthodox and Sunni for the +200 opinion", but I hadn't entirely understood it until now. E: Also, for extra eyalet fun, you can justify an invasion on countries which will become subjects of another country, and take the overlord as an eyalet. One dude posted on the EU4 subreddit about getting Poland as an eyalet in 1454 that way by justifying on Moldavia, and you can get Austria the same way using the CB on Hungary you get from the mission tree.
That's the switch to Orthodox in the beginning and sending the marriage offer to Burgundy. Even switching back to Sunni, you have the chance to inherit a Christian junior partner.
Ottos: I'm Orthodox now. Everyone: Awww Ottos: And now I'm Sunni! Everyone: YAY! Ottos: Haha just kidding guys, Orthodox this week. Everyone: Awww Ottos: No I'm really Sunni! I double pinky promise! Everyone: WOOOOO TAKE MY CROWN! I LOVE YOU OTTOMAN!
Actually just finished an Ottomans run with Eyleat heavy play. And yeah, wow was it easy to world conquest. I don't generally seek to do speed fur such things, but was easily the fastest one I've ever done.
I’m good enough to go for non easy Ironman runs (just got master of India+Hormuz Aden+Paris Pasha + Triple Rome achievement as Ottoblob and am starting a revoke run but I don’t think I’m ready for WC yet. Any thoughts on tips especially for how you manage war pace (over extension/AE/coring). Coalitions aren’t an issue to fight of course just massively slows progress
@@Speedster___ Really it is all about the snowballing. Independent of who you start as in the early game, if you set yourself up with a solid power base and the ability to grow you should be good to go in terms of prep. If you can get to the late 1500s as the top ranked major power that's generally a good sign. When you start your world expansions over the next century, you'll have to worry about agressive expansion of course, but do push the limits there and make good use of different paths of expansion through very different religious groups. If you can ping wars between 3 faith groups, you'll probably be good to go. And make sure to focus attention on the other major powers. Eat up the small states when available or when you need a route through their area, but reducing the strength of the majors so they become very manageable late game is ideal. Then in the last century, if you've managed to field an army of half a million or so, you can start ignoring aggressive expansion as no one will think it worth it coalitioning you as they'd lose. But if you still have trouble there, always remember: they can't ally against you if they're already at war with you. Ideally fully occupied while you focus on the main target of the war.
@@DrIzixs how much do a cooldown between wars do you do? In my last big blob campaign I always did a war or two peace both out then had like 2 years of peace before I considered another war. Really appreciate the through response.
@@Speedster___ By the late 1600s if I'm going full conquest I shift to having as little time between wars as possible. Fight the next war while the cores finish from the previous war. Which is another reason to have multiple fronts of expansion. If you finish a war in Europe and then attack in southern Asia, those cores your making are less likely to get disrupted via occupation. The complications to this is making sure you have the army to support this (moving a bunch of armies from Europe to India takes time after all) and you can manage war exhaustion so you don't have rebellions everywhere constantly.
@@Speedster___ I know this is kinda late, but honestly WC is a lot easier than you think. I was the same way. The guideline I used was 1000 dev 1500 3000 dev 1600 10000 dev 1700 wc by 1800. I thought I was really behind, but pulled it off pretty easily in the 1750s. Once you have absolutism and imperialism just saty at permanent war and countries kind of vanish from the map. That said I think the runs are kind of boring because you manage so many wars for so long, so I probably won't do another soon.
did not understood that eyalets that are not reigned in have liberty desire calculated like regular vassals.... all vassals have their strength calculated together against you. while eyalets that are reigned in are like personal unions, with their strength calculated alone against you.
They have not fixed it, to my understanding. I tested it on 1.37 (Not 1.37.1 however) but I saw nothing in the patch notes to indicate it has been fixed.
Orthodox can never be the Dominant faith of the HRE, so no Orthodox emperors. You'd have to convert to Catholicism, or join the reformation and win the league war.
Ah yes, the time when Mehmed the conqueror changed his religion from muslim to christian over and over again and then half of islamic world decided to accept his tyle for some reason.
Ah yes, the five year turbulent time in Turkish history where the sultan kept burning down settlements on both sides of the Bosporus so he could keep switching between Christianity and Islam…
i think its cool mechanic. considering you need to use favors to call them in and that they are treated as ally in the war. where enemy can separate peace deal with them and even take their provinces while still in war with you. just dont call all 100 vassals every time. use couple that are in good positions for the war.
i did that mistake in one of my runs. when you not reign in at least some of the eyalets. they start getting high liberty desire when you have like 30 eyalets. basically all eyalets that are not core eyalets get liberty desire calculated together like normal vassal. while core eyalets are more like personal union. with their liberty desire being calculated alone against you.
Игры
Such a skill issue from Mehmed II for not doing this irl
i mean, it's obvious in hindsight that if you just converted Orthodox and back to Muslim 4 times, all of your relations issues with the Muslims would be solved, but it might not have been clear back then.
Well, in history, Pope offered Mehmed II to convert Christianity and give him the Europe. He refused the offer 😂
At least he took İstanbul and secured Ottoman dominance for 50 years
I think this is one of the most hilariously absurd playthroughs I've seen
Next to majapahit shogun vassal swarm
Would be funny if someone did a serious AAR of this playthrough. "And then Mehmed decided on second thought he preferred Islam"
This guy always finds disgusting ways of playing every nation.
When you play any country is op but you outdid yourself on this
ah yes. the Holy Ottoman Empire
more roman than the hre
we out here scaring the HOE
I think this is the cheesiest strat I saw since the Minghals 🤣
damn Minghals that was a while ago
I guess the Ottomans didn't get nerfed enough in 1.36, wow
Also a tip for the religion flipping part: you can force dominant religion recalculation by privateering (or switching node if you were already privateering) and letting a day pass, instead of waiting for the month tick
Edit: also you don't need to dev to get 30% crown land, because you'll get the Dhimmi lands when you swap to Orthodox the first time.
The Ai isnt that bad. They dont really have to be nerfed. Esspecially when there is Persia
@@Donerci_Pikacu_Usta Persia buff to silk is nuts.
@@kylekelly1167 They can increase the prices of silk and cloth through a mission which is crazy
@@Donerci_Pikacu_Usta I formed Persia as Ardabil after I switched to Zoroastrianism. The game took away my holy order button and all the ones I created.
I think the Eyalets are the strongest mechanic in the entire game. Basically HRE without privilegia.
Stronger than HRE without privilegia, as you can increase your income from them with Income from Vassals, you don't need to be stuck as Catholic, you don't need to worry about votes, you don't need to worry about diplo slots (allying electors), you aren't limited to only europe, or to directly bordering existing imperial provinces, you don't incur buckets of AE for expanding your "empire", You can reconquest their cores and control the war, they won't be infighting and lowering your Imperial Authority. you don't need to convert them to your state religion. I'm sure more that I don't know about.
But no vassal swarm
@@Speedster___ Good
Diplomatic victory on EU4 is wild
I have learned more about EU4 in the last two months watching your content, than I have from watching any other creator for the last 5 years.
This guy can do pre 1500 world conquest one faith
For the Heavy Ships, that Burgher privilege does wonders. depending on the size of your nation you get 6 or so heavy ships for half the time and no cost
All one province tho which is super annoying
This would make Mehmed's ambition so much easier. You were kind of inefficient and still made it that far before 1490s. Imma try it.
100% agree
man came out of nowhere and decided to make the best eu4 content on youtube, love the style of your videos
i've been playing this game for like 6k hours and I'm actually amazed how much weird and different playstyles there are out there, lol. Cool campaign, it was fun to watch. It's starts like Bob Ross "RUINED" moment and turns into "SAVED" pretty quickly. Thanks for the upload.
a tip for future videos, dont say "Proclaim guarantee "Here" " or "rival this "guy" ", "This province "here" " the quality will improve a lot if you say the country names, province names and character names even if they might be hard to pronounce...
Yeah, I'll honestly say sometimes I do that because I'm worried to fail the pronunciation.
@@Theplaymaker57 Don't worry about the pronunciation, most top EU4 youtubers make big pronunciation mistakes aswell. But when you just say "Guy" "Place" "This one" instead of the names its not that fun to watch... Just a tip.
@@Sabel12 Okay, but I'm blaming you for everytime I say something wrong 🤣. But noted and will be Making that change, thanks for the feedback.
❤@@Theplaymaker57
@@Theplaymaker57I would respect the hell out of you for actually pronouncing Qara Qoyunlu
It's a lot easier than you expect.
As if the Ottomans werent strong enough without cheesing it :D Awesome strategy, I might steal this
You can get a WC by 1600 with eyalets then integrate them to the endgame ıf you stack War score cost take the whole country release countryies ıf you have to then one point you will have literally infinite manpower
This is hilarious. You are currently my favourite eu4 content creator.
Good editing, clear explanations, no bad jokes. Keep up the good work!
I had no idea the Eyalet Mechanism was that powerful! The gameplay is on another level. 👍
HRE is like regular Roman Empire when you compare it with Holy Ottoman Empire
Tried it. Works. I'll have to do this again at some point to get good at it, but here are some tips:
1. Make sure you promote to eyelet at the right time, or not only will you lose diplo their liberty desire will go through the roof.
2. Also make sure Orthodox and Suni are as even as possible. It was very annoying for me to switch back and forth. I had to exploit in all Orthodox provinces.
3. Swap religions 5 times, not 4. You can't get 250 relation, but there are some debuffs that might happen, and it will keep them happy for longer.
4. Hire a diplo reputation guy ASAP. That's one of the things that counts towards vassalizing points.
5. Only ally or guarantee countries which get the boost.
6. Don't hire a mill adviser. I always forget when playing Ottobros.
Holy!! That's actually insane!
I wonder how quickly you could do a world conquest with this
Remember me from ur old videos? x) I'm glad you kept at it, you make some of the best eu4 content nowadays and I really enjoyed this vid as well. Great job!
For sure, I remember. great advice!
Didnt see something that overpowered in a long time lol
my guy not doing the mehmets ambition he is doing whatever is the ambition of turks in germany now
18:22 literally what ottomans did in the irish famine irl
Helped me to do Mehmets ambitions achiev, thanks for video
i bursted everytime he looked at burgandy at 15min :DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD my boy getting trolled
This strategy is so scuffed, I love it! 😂
This is definitely a Mehmet's Ambition moment
thank you. this game will never be the same.
Thats incredible! i have to do this like now!!
2:40 You prounance Mentese as Ment ash a.
Thank you for making glorius Ottoman MORE GLORİUS!
Thank you for that, I will try my best to remember!
Would it be worth vassalizing the balkans/ italians while orthodox?
I wonder how much of the HRE you could diplo-vassalize if you dismantle (obviously, while at low AE). Always trickier with other religions but certainly possible. There's some special glory for conquering half the world without taking any provinces xD
Holy Ottoman Empire isnt real, it cant hurt you.
Holy Ottoman Empire:
The last time I played EU IV was in 2016, and man I see so many new features I think I couldn't play it at this day lol
This was absolutely ridiculous and i loved it. Doing a similar run now 😂
bro just created holy ottoman empire in south germany
gonna give a like this video for achievement objetive, thx
after everything disgusting in this video, the not happening of burgundian inheritance was a bless
great year to show off a game save
Hey. That's free real estates here.
The title was not clickbait. Wow.
I have 3500 hours and I feel like a noob watching this
0:01 I get the reference
Bro has its own HRE as Ottomans lol
i started as ardabil opm formed persia then eranshahr... had to console command in zoroatrianism cos i dont have any dlcs after emperor and its normally on a mission i think.. now i have yemen and syria as vassals... thought id spread the love before america gets too strong! lol
This is the one that's gonna put you at the top.
This is so disgusting... I need to try it. Do you think it would make it easier to get Mehmet's Ambitions achievement that way?
Wonder what Austria is thinking looking at this while the HRE is in complete dissaray.
1:12 if you send an insult, you would’ve got the claims the very next day instead waiting till the following month.
Thanks for this. I've seen a lot of people on the EU4 subreddit talk about doing that "flip back and forth between Orthodox and Sunni for the +200 opinion", but I hadn't entirely understood it until now.
E: Also, for extra eyalet fun, you can justify an invasion on countries which will become subjects of another country, and take the overlord as an eyalet. One dude posted on the EU4 subreddit about getting Poland as an eyalet in 1454 that way by justifying on Moldavia, and you can get Austria the same way using the CB on Hungary you get from the mission tree.
Can it works with pronoyas?
What buttons do you press to carpet seige so fast? Im always fumbling with my troops for that
Check out budgetmonk carpet siege guide
Stay on a enemy province, hold d (iirc) to split into 1k stacks, select all stacks, rightclick + esc every province
@@MrTiminho1is there a way to split into 2k stacks instead?
my mouth dropped, i am such a noob
I heard you played along with the parabellum challenges. Will you upload that as I would watch it.
Yes, I'm planning to soon.
now why would you dangle this in front of EU4 players
Next video : ottoman tax whole the world
Mehmet: You call that a HRE? Pathetic. Let me show you how it's done.
what is the song on 14:30?
I wonder, if you get that rare event that lets you convert Mehmed to catholic Can you royal Marry burgund to get Burgundian Inheritance?
That's the switch to Orthodox in the beginning and sending the marriage offer to Burgundy. Even switching back to Sunni, you have the chance to inherit a Christian junior partner.
Ottos: I'm Orthodox now.
Everyone: Awww
Ottos: And now I'm Sunni!
Everyone: YAY!
Ottos: Haha just kidding guys, Orthodox this week.
Everyone: Awww
Ottos: No I'm really Sunni! I double pinky promise!
Everyone: WOOOOO TAKE MY CROWN! I LOVE YOU OTTOMAN!
Actually just finished an Ottomans run with Eyleat heavy play. And yeah, wow was it easy to world conquest. I don't generally seek to do speed fur such things, but was easily the fastest one I've ever done.
I’m good enough to go for non easy Ironman runs (just got master of India+Hormuz Aden+Paris Pasha + Triple Rome achievement as Ottoblob and am starting a revoke run but I don’t think I’m ready for WC yet.
Any thoughts on tips especially for how you manage war pace (over extension/AE/coring).
Coalitions aren’t an issue to fight of course just massively slows progress
@@Speedster___ Really it is all about the snowballing. Independent of who you start as in the early game, if you set yourself up with a solid power base and the ability to grow you should be good to go in terms of prep. If you can get to the late 1500s as the top ranked major power that's generally a good sign. When you start your world expansions over the next century, you'll have to worry about agressive expansion of course, but do push the limits there and make good use of different paths of expansion through very different religious groups. If you can ping wars between 3 faith groups, you'll probably be good to go. And make sure to focus attention on the other major powers. Eat up the small states when available or when you need a route through their area, but reducing the strength of the majors so they become very manageable late game is ideal. Then in the last century, if you've managed to field an army of half a million or so, you can start ignoring aggressive expansion as no one will think it worth it coalitioning you as they'd lose. But if you still have trouble there, always remember: they can't ally against you if they're already at war with you. Ideally fully occupied while you focus on the main target of the war.
@@DrIzixs how much do a cooldown between wars do you do? In my last big blob campaign I always did a war or two peace both out then had like 2 years of peace before I considered another war.
Really appreciate the through response.
@@Speedster___ By the late 1600s if I'm going full conquest I shift to having as little time between wars as possible. Fight the next war while the cores finish from the previous war. Which is another reason to have multiple fronts of expansion. If you finish a war in Europe and then attack in southern Asia, those cores your making are less likely to get disrupted via occupation.
The complications to this is making sure you have the army to support this (moving a bunch of armies from Europe to India takes time after all) and you can manage war exhaustion so you don't have rebellions everywhere constantly.
@@Speedster___ I know this is kinda late, but honestly WC is a lot easier than you think. I was the same way. The guideline I used was
1000 dev 1500
3000 dev 1600
10000 dev 1700
wc by 1800.
I thought I was really behind, but pulled it off pretty easily in the 1750s. Once you have absolutism and imperialism just saty at permanent war and countries kind of vanish from the map. That said I think the runs are kind of boring because you manage so many wars for so long, so I probably won't do another soon.
Part 2 when?
Still you don't have entire world , can we see a world conquest as Ottomans with this strat?
Holy Turkish Empire
Daymn....absolute chad. o.o
If you break thE HRE you Can vassalize it too
i seen guys do smilar income to this without clowning in multiplayer
Bro did US Ottomans
My mistake was forgetting to reign in and having all my subjects hate me lol
same
did not understood that eyalets that are not reigned in have liberty desire calculated like regular vassals....
all vassals have their strength calculated together against you.
while eyalets that are reigned in are like personal unions, with their strength calculated alone against you.
This is both disgusting and hilarious. Great job
Would this work In mp
eye eye eyalet
Hope they dont nerf this before i give it a go haha
I was howling for the first 10 minutes! wtf is this playthrough brooooooo 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Hello in my EU4 i don't have the estate dhimmi and jannissaries and my mission tree is also different than in the video can someone help me ?
Mb you have only vanilla vithout dlc?
Apple I-lets
What version exactly was this played on? I’m assuming they’ve fixed this exploit but I’m too lazy to run a test to check it.
They have not fixed it, to my understanding. I tested it on 1.37 (Not 1.37.1 however) but I saw nothing in the patch notes to indicate it has been fixed.
Is it possible to become HRE emperor as Byzantium after mending the schism without converting to Catholicism of course?
You can just set the date to 1821, then back to 1444 and be a Bizantine Orthodox Holy Roman Emperor.
Orthodox can never be the Dominant faith of the HRE, so no Orthodox emperors. You'd have to convert to Catholicism, or join the reformation and win the league war.
Lol, one of your best videos
Ah yes, the time when Mehmed the conqueror changed his religion from muslim to christian over and over again and then half of islamic world decided to accept his tyle for some reason.
Well, obviously he had a close relationship with God which the rest of the Sunni world recognized.
I feel so bad for your editor! These videos must take days to edit!
Poor editor that is me, but no these take like 30 mins to edit its chill
Shouldnt PROCLAIN GUARANTEE costs you dip cap?
Genius...❤
Uhhh WHAT DID I JUST WITNESS??? 🤪🤪🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆
Thats so disgusting. Loving it
The real question is, can switch to Shia?
For higher morale and jafari shock damage
most broken thing is to switch to orthodox and get burgundian inheritance
All this because Paradox forgot to make an opinion modifier non-stackable.
Ah yes, the five year turbulent time
in Turkish history where the sultan kept burning down settlements on both sides of the Bosporus so he could keep switching between Christianity and Islam…
RNG start with epirus allying ragusa :(
It's not often you just find yourself laughing out load at the absurdity of a game in the 1480's, yet here I am.
That was an amazing video!
Very tiring with calling all these eyelet clicking to war I have like 100 vassals.
i think its cool mechanic.
considering you need to use favors to call them in and that they are treated as ally in the war.
where enemy can separate peace deal with them and even take their provinces while still in war with you.
just dont call all 100 vassals every time.
use couple that are in good positions for the war.
I thought this man said he didnt know how to play ottomans
I don't! anyone can do decent with infinite money and manpower though.
you don't need to wait for the month tick for religion swap. hire 1k army and delete it. it forces to game for calculate
Why did you reign them all in instead of having the greatest vassal swarm ever?
i did that mistake in one of my runs.
when you not reign in at least some of the eyalets.
they start getting high liberty desire when you have like 30 eyalets.
basically all eyalets that are not core eyalets get liberty desire calculated together like normal vassal.
while core eyalets are more like personal union. with their liberty desire being calculated alone against you.
That was one of the stupidest things ive ever seen. Im going to try it when i play next.
Why not "send warning" to the mamluks at the beginning?
Can't warn a powerful nation