I'll never understand fans that forget that actors are just people living their own lives too, not their property or whatever parasocial delusions they might have 😢 Fanservice can be soo cringey and I hate when it feels like they're forced to have any intimate moments, even if just friendly. 'OMG, they touched shoulders!' Sheesh.... Anyway, love these q&a's and congrats on POT! 🎾😊
The actors and film makers do it as well. You see them purposely hanging all over each other without fans asking for it. that's because they want their product to be successful. You can't just blame the fans when the film makers understand the actors getting shipped helps make their movies or TV shows more successful. So they "show off" when in public for exactly that reason.
I think it might be one of those chicken and the egg things. Maybe fans spotted a real spontaneous 'moment', reacted to it and that made people want to do fan service to generate a similar response. Or maybe fan-service came first.
I agree here. I am gay and I find it cringey when fanservice gets too touchy and they are not interested and I can feel that. I don't know enough about BL actors but my experience with Kpop is similar when they played the pepero stick candy games or the use your mouths only to transfer this paper. It just feels off...
It’s hella cringey, I would prefer to see legit LGBTQIA+ actors playing main lead BL roles and the straight actors can either do the side support or keep doing the Lakorns.
Whenever I think of fan-service, my mind just goes, “Why?, just why?” Personally for me, the couple starts and ends with the series. Shipping actor’s is weird. People need to be able to separate the actor’s from the character’s they play. I honestly do not get why they make something so simple, so complicated. Anyways, great video. It was a great way to end my day.❤
I am so glad that the only thing I've ever tweeted at you is "The most relatable part of Cutie Pie is Perth trying to eat his own bills, because same bro, same." Some of the things I see "fans" tweet at actors... I just want to walk up to them and go "Would you say this to their faces? No? Then shut up." It's just social decency.
True, some people are brave or stuipid, I don't know which one it is, like yes I've caught myself thinking some intresting ish and ocassionally even give myself a golly for it but if it was sth funny that still wasn't worth to put out in the world...momentarily I have the luxury of a colleague who has fallen into the same entertainment and therefore understands. But, I too, lived years without that 2 and sometimes am as surprised and am like "Seriously guys, you do realize that they do read and understand that?!" "I sometimes really don't want to know what our favourite Artists thinks what's going in the heads of their audiences!" It goes from "lol not wrong but did you have to put that online? Gonna be so embarrassing in xy time!" to "This now in the end is just delulu and 2nd hand embarrseement!" (and most likey that are the softest of them) because I left blue bird Island a long time ago....
One of my best memories is from when I first joined twitter and I had decided that I would follow only 10 people. So when I followed the 11th, I unfollowed and @ the guy "sorry, but u have exceeded my limit so I am unfollowing you". And well, he retweeted it with "sorry to hear that I was rejected and I hope it will work out next time" or something to that effect and it's been 15 years and it still keeps me up at night lmfao. P.S. he is a pretty famous actor. The Male Lead of Warehouse 13 (I don't remember his name). He was replaced by Nathan Fillion in my list lmao.
"It's just people loving people" you are so right and you're such a sweetheart! I REALLY want to see you in more works because you're a good actor and a lovely guy. Congratulations for being in "Prince of Tennis" musical. Love from Brazil!
As always, I appreciated how sincerely you answered each question. Granted, you speak from your own experience however I do believe that it gives us a great insight in the industry whose products we consume. I also appreciated that you mentioned the s. harassment that the actors are constantly being putting through since it quite often, feels way too out of control (my guess is that sometimes, some people, forget that you guys are human being that will see that specific comment!). So again, thank you Perth for the video and good luck with your projects in Japan!
I think the kind of interesting thing is that I don't think the people saying those things would say them to you if they met you in real life. But since everything is online there's a sense of anonymity and also they might not think that the actors actually read their comments (we do).
10:59 speaking as a bi person with some gender fluidity, at the core it is very simply a person loving another person. The differences are superficial and also come down to the individual. Gender is an aspect of a person but there are so many other factors. You don't love them because they're a girl or a guy, you love them for the person they are. When you describe the things about someone you love, many of those things won't be gender-specific, for some examples, a sense of humour, kindness, passion for art, dedication to their family or their business, shared values, adventurous, quiet... Anyone can be those things.
exactly! 🙌 when someone asks that question "what did you first notice/were first attracted to... ?" who says "he was a boy/she was a girl" ? it might be something physical yes, but not that they were purely a 'male/female'.
@@kristalclearly9777because it goes without saying. It's different for bi people since they are attracted to both genders but for straight or gay people it is the first thing, which is so basic that it doesn't need to be mentioned. You are just not gonna see any other characteristics in a romantic light otherwise. We form our first impressions of people in the first 10 seconds. We decide if we are attracted to them in that time too. So yeah, you notice a nice smile, a good sense of humor etc but it's always in regards to platonic or romantic feelings (friendships or sexual/romantic relationships).
This is all of course true, but I think most people are more skeptical about straight people playing gay roles because straight people won't ever fully understand the nuances of homophobia and discrimination that gay and LGBTQ+ people in general face, as well as just the complex identities they formed growing up that straight people just didn't experience and thus would kind of only gain some sort of understanding by talking to queer friends. Thus, people think straight people may not completely get the character their playing, which is a fair concern. However, when the characters someone's playing don't really deal with the complexities of a queer identity in a drama, as Perth's really haven't, then I think the concern about straight people playing them can be soothed since a straight actor could understand them more easily.
Really enjoyed your video! I'm an old lady (56 now, ugh) from Kentucky, but I love watching all sorts of shows from lots of different countries. Thanks for sharing all your knowledge about the Thai BL industry. Also, congratulations on your new project! Imaging the difficulty of just being in a musical, but adding to singing, acting, and dancing you are throwing in another language AND a sport?? That's amazing! Good luck to you, young one!
@@catmacg I'm just outside of Lexington in Georgetown. Nice to see another BL fan since I was certain I was it. :D I visit my Kpop friend in Lville occasionally.
Love that you pointed out the BL stories have become more complex. I think in the past the themes were quite repetitive and kind of one dimensional but now the stories have so much depth and character development and that’s been my favorite part of the evolution of BL. I’m also so so happy that GLs are becoming more of a thing because queer girls deserve representation too!! That being said regarding the comment about “mature content” I think it makes sense when it fits the story, but sometimes it does feel forced and when it’s forced it leaves a bad taste in my mouth. The great thing is that because there’s so many BLs you can really choose what fits your preferences, there’s plenty of soft and cute dramas and there’s plenty that have mature content as well (and by mature I mean not just sex but themes that include violence, trauma, etc).
I agree that recently actors have calmed down with the fanservice and I appreciate it a lot. As you've said some like it and some don't, I personally just like to see the cast getting along, including the lead couple but putting on an act for fans usually feels weird to me, especially because it creates such a problematic interaction between fans who do and the ones who don't like it meaning especially the ones that do like it also always "fall" for it in the sense that they throw big words like homophobia around whenever people tell them that it's in fact just fan service and that said actors have neither confirmed nor denied dating or even being into people of the same sex. As you've said, it's cool just taking it with a pinch of salt and having fun with it but unfortunately there will always be people reading way too much into it and genuinely believing these interactions to be true without there being any form of confirmation. But I feel like recently it has calmed down, everyone is just promoting their shows, having fun and getting along in a friendly way which is so fun to watch.
This video was really interesting and I always love to get your honest and fresh perspective on what's going on with the industry but the real reason I had to make a comment is... Perth you are absolutely GLOWING right now. Drop the skin care routine ASAP😂
For someone who just started watching Thai shows 6 months ago and started watching BLs 5 months ago Cutie Pie and My Engineer was one of the first 5 BLs I binged watched and I have been hooked ever since on anything Thai BL. For me it's my comfort zone. I just love the stories that are told and the different level of intimacy. Thank you for doing this there are a lot that I am still trying to binge between new ones that have come out. It is a lot!
Thai BLs will always hold a special place in my heart. Back when there was almost no representation, Love of Siam was a story about people I could (secretly) relate to for once. I’m happy to see how it has grown more robust
I feel like the fan service debacle can clearly divide fandom, and from what Ive noticed, international fans are the ones who don't need/want fan service, who don't care about it, while the Thai fans want it, sometimes even demand it. It seems to me like a lot of Thai fans can't distinguish between onscreen stuff and reality.
It also seems quite connected to the age of the fans, from what I've observed. Some younger fans seem to have less awareness of fan service being part of people's job.
Actually, it's more about the age of the fans. Not all Thai fans want fan service, I mean, they do enjoy it at some certain levels but not all wants it. And like I said, it's about the age of the fans, younger fans seems less aware of fan service being part of the actor's job. The older fans are very aware of it, they can differentiate whether the pairing's relationship is real or fan service. They enjoy it at certain levels of fan service and some likes to joke with actors about the actors being in a relationship, it's a way of their joking and dream, that's all. Yes, they want their pairings to date for real but they also know the limits too. Younger fans are less aware.
The thing about the sex sells (I know you covered it with "mature content" but let's call it what it is), it's true that having intimate scenes in a series makes people talk and even watch it. We've seen it with some series going viral beyong the BL community. Personally, I don't mind intimate scenes but sometimes it's quite obvious they're added just to "satisfy" a certain audience. I wish BL producers would focus more on writing complex characters and leave out these scenes that are just there to make people scream at their screens. Or rather implement them better into the story. There's a series currently airing that perfectly does that, it's a fun watch while also offering great plot and drama. It's all about being authentic while still making something fun or exciting. We've come a long way since those early BLs and at this point there's some really great stuff out there. I hope we'll continue to make good content and not add scenes without context just for one sole purpose
@TheNychthemeronThing Only Friends. While they have a lot of 18+ scenes in the beginning they later on focus on the characters and make it emotionally dramatic
Congratulations on being in Tenimyu! My last time watching tenimyu was in Generation 5. Now you are in it, it’s time to pick up tenimyu again! I have to find out which team you are on. Anyway for recent BL, it’s not just saturated, it’s over saturated so for me, it’s simple, any trailer than doesn’t catch my attention automatically gets pushed down and I wait and watch for stories which trailers catches me. Mature content or not, for me it’s the story. Yeah I can consume mature content for the sake of it but it’s kinda like fast food, people can get bored easily even though it’s yummy, fast and convenient. Great job Perth with the Q&A. Thanks for sharing so much with us!!
i so agree with this!! i too get tired of catching up on everything like back then and now just watch what i feel like i would like because theres just too much 😭
Oh, your English is so “clean” that I could understand everything without making pauses and it was a very nice experience. Thanks so much for talking about BL industry and fan service (I hate it 😅).
Thank you for coming out and telling us some of this information. Normally on the fan side there is a lot of mis information and also fans claiming to like know how people feel or actors. So it is nice to finally hear it from the source. Thanks for always being an awesome person
Can we talk about how amazing Perth look in this video? I needed to watch the first minutes again because I didn't listen because he looks so handsome. I love his hair like that so much. Ok, back to thr content. I really love how honestly perth speaks about the industry and about fanservice. I hope there will be more videos like this in the future. And also great questions. I love perths kind of view about love. Such a great guy. I really want to know which novel he reads for a series. 😂 Great video. Love it!
It's so interesting to hear about your perspective from a thai (bl) actor himself! I personally mostly dislike fanservice, especially when the actors are forced to do things they are not really comfortable with it, but do it bc they know the fans love it + their series get more recognition. Also, fake/pretend relationships are so awkward. I do love real life chemistry though, whether that's just because you are great friends, have a close bond, or in some cases, a more romantic connection. It's just nice seeing people work together and actually having fun together! 11:21 "we are all going to die anyway" 😂 But seriously, I've always said this myself; as long as you are not hurting someone, just do whatever you want/makes you happy! Congrats on your role in a musical 🎉
I am rooting for natural chemistry only like you do but I think they've already got it that it's way much better and more successful that way so they created those workshops for actors to give them time to adjust and dig deeper in the connection they have. So it's happening. It's not so depressing if you think about it. Basically most actors have an intention of being really friendly, lovable and understanding of each other and it's not for the sake of money or fame, it's for genuine purposes. For us.
I would just like to say that I am doing my master's thesis about the LGBT community in Thailand and I have a chapter dedicated to the BL industry and these videos have been very helpful within my work as great evidence from someone who has experienced the industry, so I would just like to thank you so much for this. I've been learning Thai but I am still only on a basic level, so having this input in English and like first hand knowledge is really going to help with my paper. You are a life saver and I absolutely love all your work, and I can't wait to see what you do next!
Literally every answer I was like “oooh yeah that makes sense” or “oh wow so insightful!” or “this is so cool Perth is so cool for doing this for fans” thanks dude!
Wow just found your channel and you are so insightful. Loved your answers, especially in response to straight actor playing gay role. You are right love is love no matter the person. If people would focus on being kind and being happy and not worrying about who’s loving who the world would be a better place
How can't I love Perth more? This Q&A was so interesting because his point of view is a nice thing to ear. I'm very grateful for give us a opinion sincere
I legit nearly screamed when I heard you'll be in the Prince of Tennis musical! I've been a fan of Prince of Tennis for several years, musicals included and hearing you say you'll be part of the musical literally made my day! I'm going to take a shot in the dark and guess which character you'll be portraying if you'll be in Seigaku and that's Oishi Shuichiro.
I think Intouch did an amazing job with that show! Some fan service is over the top, as an adult i enjoy seeing my ship together but also i know the difference from reality and entertainment. Love is love!
Also congrats to you for realizing all of the awesome opportunities you get as an actor vs. the typical “family dad” you will not regret this time I promise you! I missed out, being a stay at home mom myself even tho I graduated from college with honors. And now I barely just got a job as a front office receptionist. Take the life opportunities you can! Experience as much as possible while you can! Love will be there but it will take a lot of your time so it will be better to have experienced life first and then settle down you will feel like you have lived your life and are ready for the next chapter. So don’t compare yourself to others from your personal life. You’re doing amazing!
he is so insightful i really appreciate this. it’s good to know how accepting and understanding people are in respect to their careers, especially actors in playing certain characters or roles.
At the beginning I did not know of fan service, so I thought everything is genuine and they are together in real life. 😂 But honestly, I’d rather there would be no fan service pressure at all. Fans have gone too crazy because of fan service. Going to the extent of hating specific actors because they broke the “couple” and decided to act in straight dramas only or couple with someone else. Some fans forget that actors just do their jobs at the end of the day. Or fans hating on the actor’s real life partners because of the show “couple”. This is just wrong. If I like an actor I like him or her for their talent and for how they portray a role. Some fans just want to dictate everything that the actor is doing in his or her life.
Regarding the last question, I think there's still plenty of innocent school story type of BLs - it's nice to have a range of series to choose from! I've kind of outgrown school stories, but as for innocent vs. steamy, it just depends on what I'm in the mood for. And now I can pick according to my tastes rather than just watching the few crumbs I could find :P
I love how real and wholesome you are. I also like knowing what the acting world [BL or mot] is like behind the scenes. I personally could never, ‘cause performance anxiety, but I admire the people who work that line of business and are making a name for themselves. You’re one of my favorite actors, so I like knowing your opinion and learning how your mind works. Keep slaying the game as an awesome human!
Every bl has one job and that is to show that the characters love each other. Some have started using the mature scenes more to do this but the rest of the show doesn't have the dialog and depth for us to truly believe it. You gotta show the attraction, the care, the worry, and everything else that comes with loving someone. With the amount out there now you can find characters that suit you and make you happy to rewatch and I love that our selection has become so broad now we can't even watch it all
Perth looks so handsome in this video. His skins looks so healthy and I really liked his hair style. Also appreciated the perspective and comments he made in this video, I just really noticed that he looks very handsome. 😂
You are so good at analyzing situations and just seeing the honesty and rationale in them. Every time I listen to you do an episode like this it reaffirms why I have so much respect for you as an Entertainer and a person in general. Your success is great never compare yourself to others. Everything you want will come in due time. It seems you are truly enjoying your life and living it to the fullest. Keep up the good work, you truly are an awesome person.
I really liked your take on the maturity of how BL is being produced. When I first got into Thai BL, I was in college and really enjoyed ones that took place in university settings because it was relatable, buuuut now I'm 25. I skip many of those now because they aren't as mature as I want them to be. Which is perfectly fine for the genre, but as an adult, I like watching other adults in adult settings. I am glad that actors aren't being pressured into those roles though as it is a job at the end of the day, and they shouldn't feel harassed into fan service. Thanks for your candid responses!
I'm glad you shed light on that last question. I know there is talk with the cast members on how far things would go in certain scenes before they're even hired on, at least letting the actors know so that they can make informed decisions. When we see the end product, we have to understand those actors went through workshops and managed to create a connection and are comfortable with each other. I don't think there is any pressure placed on them to do more mature things, you explained it very well and I thank you for it Perth.
Perth thank you for this video! I’ve watched all your work and have been a fan of BL for about 5 years. After watching nearly all series from the Thai Bl industry it has made me look for deeper connections with people. I know it’s all acting but the love and strength you find in friendships and relationships within the different series made me want them connections in real life. You as a actor give us all a much wider look about life around us and always there to help us understand things within the Bl acting world. Thank you for being you and sharing your thoughts with us. I look forward to seeing what other work you do. Ram is still one of my favourite characters!
19:55 Felt that: a while back I was able to watch every bl as it was airing (not only thai but also chinese, taiwanese and korean) but now.. I can't keep up, especially with thai bls. I still watch a ton of them, but I've definitely not seen everything that aired in the last 1-2 years. I mean, at least now we can be more picky about what to watch, as we have more content to choose from, whilist back in the day those 3 series were all we had and it was either that or nothing. If you think about it, all the other genres are "oversaturated", as it would be impossible to watch i.e. every single horror or romance or fantasy movie/series ever (also because they've been around for longer). We are noticing it with bls because we saw this genre grow over time, from niche to more mainstream, but i think this is just the normalization (?) process. Having said that, I do feel like some of the more recent series are a bit rushed, and it seems like they prioritize quantity over quality- while I think most people would prefer less stuff but done with care. On the other hand I do see some growth, and I'm very happy that the industry is evolving! Having been around for a while now and having seen almost 400 bl dramas (ik, I have issues and I keep track of everything), sometimes I feel like a proud mama lol Anyways, as always, thank you for the video and good luck for the new project! :) (english is not my first language and while I'm usually not too bad at it, my brain ain't braining at the moment, so excuse my mistakes '^^)
thank you so much for sharing your thoughts and personal experiences, the way you’re always talking about your job is so mesmerizing. honestly you’re always so respectful with every topic you talk about and i really agree with the way your think about the bl industry, wishing you the best in your future projects!
I recently watched My Engineer and I was very impressed with how you played Ram. You managed to convey so much emotion with how few lines you had in that show. 👏
i love hearing your thoughts about the BL industry because i'm always a little bit worried about the cast involved in any BL drama and the pressure they're under in terms of the ship and fanservice. i'm happy to hear international worry and comments gets back to the producers etc so they can rectify things in another project. you explain it all so well and eloquently; thank you so much!
Perth, I'll rush past my compliment on how great your hair looks as it gets longer and get right to content. Besides giving us the truth tea, your personality is so great and what you share about your life is quite interesting. Thank you.
I think the ott, manufactured fanservice has chilled out alot and the more natural fanservice is much more common now. Its also much more pleasant to watch as a fan. Guys who are close friends act kind of gay lol. I think that's true in many cultures. So its not necessary to force anything if you find 2 guys who are compatible and become close easily. And fans can tell. Fans can feel it when 1 guy is uncomfortable or when theyre putting on a show. Natural fanservice is the way to go imo
When you mentioned that nowadays there are so many bl series coming out that we can't finish them unless we use all our free time watching bl to finish half of it I chocked on air 😂 Me as a free student who goes to school rarely with 67% attendance and spends all her free time watching bl, I can't even finish a bl drama in 3 days 🥲 Or maybe it's cause I start rewatching my old ones-
no bestie ik the life of the creatives could be difficult stability wise but i’m a business grad and believe me the happiness isn’t there. i’m still working on figuring myself out, where do i go in life and how do i deal with my mental stuff. whereas i think if i’ve went down a creative path (like i’ve always wanted before) it could’ve been much more liberating. and lastly, even if you have a more “conventional” job money isn’t a guarantee either. ofc it’s your choice but honestly, have no regrets. anyways love you millions, my day maker!! it’s always such a pleasure listening to you talk about anything and everything < 3
Thanks for the Q&A! It was really interesting. "Unless you're super duper famous, beggars can't be choosers." This makes a lot of sense haha I also love what you said about people loving people, I don't think I've heard from a lot...or from any Japanese 2.5D actors talk about their thoughts like that but it would be great if you could be open about that in Japanese too. Unless you're somehow not allowed to be (in Japanese(??)) Anyway!! Good luck at Osaka and see you at the end of your Tokyo run!! Can't wait to see you sing and dance about tennis!
Thank you, Perth! Please keep doing these, I love them! I'm pretty new to Thai BL and you've given me so much fascinating info about it. I'm really glad you addressed fanservice - I know it's popular, but I've seen SO many fans saying, and I agree, that we'd rather not have it if it makes the actors at all uncomfortable or causes them any trouble. Personally, I think if the couple is not actually real, they should stick to only behaving like friends at events and such. I cracked up when you said "ain't so good at reading Thai," I immediately thought of Gemini raging at his documents in Cutie Pie, LOL. I hope this doesn't come across as offensive, I don't mean it to be, but I have to say - I wasn't aware you're straight, Perth, and while yes, you're right, people are people, it doesn't matter...not every actor is willing to portray characters who don't share their orientation, so permit me to respect you even more than I previously did. Omigod, you're doing Tenimyu?! Congrats! Jesus, what generation are they up to now? Can you tell us who you're playing?
Guys we need more actors like Perth i'm so serious. He's such a well spoken, educated and chill person ever and the way he chooses to pick a topic and explains it to us is so friendly and genuine. it's always so good to listen to him speaking. I'm a fan since his multilingual IG lives lol. Keep it up, Perth.
I started watching bl in 2018, back then I watched basically anything I could get my hands on 😅, but for the last couple of years the quality of a lot of shows has dropped because there are now so many being produced. But the quality of the good ones has definitely improved since 2018, there is now a large variety of storylines and characters. I don’t really mind fan service but I don’t pay much attention to it, I prefer just to watch the drama, I do watch a lot of kpop fan service though so my views are a bit conflicted. I don’t like forced fan service, I am also not a fan of fan service that is portrayed as being real or ambiguous.
Perth, I just want to say that you're awesome. It's hard, in the entertainment world today, who to believe. I love your honesty and candor and wish you nothing but love and success.
I loved this! The mature series question, I 100 % agree with. Some days I want fluffy, like MSP, some days I want sweet romance, like ATOTS, and other days spicy, like KinnPorsch. However, I don't feel any entertainer should be pushed into doing more then they are comfortable doing. The last question's answer was so honest and I feel the same way. If the scene is just gratuitous, leave it out. I want the romance, the storyline, the emotions. Thanks Perth. ❤❤ from America
Love what you're saying - around the thought that producers have about people wanting more mature content that you mentioned at 20:55, the truth is we as viewers may enjoy more mature content but we don't enjoy it if the acting quality and story isn't there. KinnPorsche was a great balance of an enthralling story, interesting characters, great acting, and intimate moments that made the viewer feel they were seeing people express love, looking behind the curtain. Always needs to be a balance. There are so many BLs that are basically softcore p*rn that the BL audiences collectively disavow as crap.
Love your channel. Just here to tell your followers that there is another group of fans of BL series. Yes we retired people over 60 😍Many of us older folks are only discovering BL. Unlike your younger followers we see BL series as a wonderful travel back in time. The stories, places, fashion and styles may be different but the emotions of gay love, the hunting, the jealousy and finally finding the person you love remains the same. Keep up the good work and hope to see as a very successful actor soon. 😍😍😍
I enjoyed this video alot and I really wanna see perth in a really complex character where we can see his acting shine whether that be in or out of the bl genre. I really believe that if given the opportunity he could bring some really complex and deep characters to life. Hope your hard work comes to fruition, perth! You're a cool dude and a good actor.
You are one of my favourite actors (note *ACTORS) in the world because you seem like a very wholesome human being! I have loved your acting in everything I've seen you in. But I think I particularly like you because of RUclips and the philosophy you bring with every BL-themed video on here. You are also very handsome. Thank you! 😊
Awesome video! Love you insight into the acting world and Thai Industry. Also I saw you in Prince of Tennis, you did soo good! I didn’t except you to sing so well! 😅❤
14:19 I get it what you’re saying. Specially whatever stuff happened in Kinnporsche set, including actors who were then underage got harassed by the writers. Not every production has a safe environment. Even if majority people are genuinely good, even one or two people can act inappropriately and ruin the good atmosphere. I hope everyone gets to work in a safer and warmer environment, no matter what their role in the production is.
I wasn't actually referring to a production or on set environment. After watching the video back my explanation wasn't very clear but I was actually referencing comments made by fans directed at myself and other actors. That being said I'm not saying that there aren't issues on sets.
@@PerthNakhun Thanks for clarifying, Perth. Yes I agree about the comments, and there are often malicious comments including harassment related ones. However the good thing is these haters get called out by majority of the fans and it’s good when companies take action including legal action when some fans get too problematic with their comments or actions. Also although I mentioned about the workplace harassment issues I am aware that majority of the people are friendly and kind to each other. However in some companies, from a fan perspective, the whole group including the directors, producers, staff, etc do feel like one big family and I think actors would feel more at ease to give their best performances, whereas in other circumstances this might not be true. It’s natural for fans to not be aware of every behind the scenes issues, so we don’t really have the right to judge, but as long as issues are addressed and properly sorted out it’s fine I guess. 😇
@@PerthNakhun I understood what you meant, some of the comments I've seen are disturbing. For me, the line is blurred of what's okay and what's too personal. Like those channels where idols read thirst tweets... Sometimes it's funny and sometimes it seems really uncomfortable.
He was talking about fans and he was absolutely right but most people out there just choose to ignore that they are actually hurting artists. It's gone crazy and I hate that. And you just proved my point that most fans are just like that. Ignorant even when it is shoved right in their faces.
@@erinskvi don’t think there was a need to have a rude reply, that’s what the tone of your comment gives anyways. it seems they just misinterpreted what was said, it happens, even Perth said his explanation wasn’t as clear.
Wow you doing some heavy lifting for us international fans, thank you for your candid comments and insights. Thank you for reminding us about the s.h. Bl actors experience from fans. I wonder how much of that occurs within the production system though itself. Unfortunately I imagine it's not unknown. And you are for sure right! I used to watch every BL out there, now I can't keep up with the few I do watch!!
I’m voicing out then: I don’t like fan service because I feel like although you can ship people healthily, many people cannot, then you have cases of it coming out that one person in the ship is dating someone else and they get death threats and harassment. Fan service definitely contributes to people’s feeling of entitlement inside a relationship they are not in. Like, when the Freen thing came out, I saw people going “oh, poor Becky, she’s heartbroken” and use that to justify being bad to Freen because she “hurt Becky”, as if she was cheating on her, but we have nothing to do with their personal lives and, let’s be real, most likely Becky was well aware of it always and never cared
I don’t have an issue with fan service because it’s the fans who choose how to view it. I personally think fans overthink it if they are is a pair that spend a lot of time together it’s natural for them to care for each other so watching 2ppl take care of each other isn’t a manipulation of the fan I think its a natural by product of ppl working together and forming a relationship
Absolutely agree on that. People manipulate themselves thinking a certain way. You choose the way you think about anything you see and no one can force you to see that at a certain angle. In most cases there is nothing romantic and suspicious going on between the actors so basically fans are just overthinking and sexualising those actors they "like". But what I hate the most is that they so obviously spread their negative perception of such things on other fans and the actors themselves. It's just ignorance and a lack of intelligence, that's all. As simple as that.
Personally I’m okay with fan service IF it’s not completely forced and uncomfortable for the actors! I like it more when they’re doing it because it’s fun for them or they genuinely enjoy doing it.
Thank you for taking the time to talk with us and help us understand the BL industry a little more. I have a few thoughts to share as a BL fan. Fan Service - I find it confusing because sometimes it looks so real and come to find out it's "fake", so it leaves me with a not very good impression. Mature Content - I personally feel less is better than more about how explicit a scene really needs to be. Unless it truly fits the story in an authentic way. Most of the time a more tasteful thoughtful scene without everything being shown, is way more expressive and emotionally fulfilling as the viewer. Best of luck with your role in Japan!! PS - I visited Thailand this summer and watched your Thai language video first. Thank you for everything! ❤❤❤
Fan service is not always negative and is not always fake. Even normal people do fan service for a certain reason and level too. Fan service is made by an agreement from the actors of which level they want to show their fans, but those services are NOT always fake. You have to realize which is fake and which is genuine, but if you can't tell by facial expressions and action microscopes then you won't be able to differentiate it. You have to look at their facial expressions and body language, if you see their comfort of being around one another then they are genuine. But if you see stiff body language or slightly a face that aren't "real", then that means it's fan service. However, doing a fan service, both actors have to make an agreement.
I love how Perth makes his videos omg So informative, structured and funny) I like to listen to your talk while doing housework,so, please we wait for new videos
I think context is everything for whether or not playing a different sexuality would be difficult to do. I have seen plenty of BLs where the setting doesn't have much (or even any) prejudice. In which case I agree that there's virtually no difference to playing a gay or straight character. But if the setting is more realistic, there is something to be said for how to approach a character that may have very different life experiences - being closeted, dealing with bigotry or even violence, internalized homophobia, self-hatred, shame, etc - and how that would affect their personality and ways expressing themselves. It's a different headspace to play a character that has to be constantly concerned with how others see them, being "found out", being stereotyped, etc.
You’re an amazing actor and between 2020 to date, I have deliberately watched most if not all of your tv shows. Your character (Ram) and your ship on my engineer were my favorite part of the entire series. I am still waiting on season 2 🤞🏽
Well articulated!! Your opinions and thoughts were well phrased. Perth your voice is incredibly soothing..best of luck in your career. We would love to see you in more series !
Thank you for this episode Perth! I totally enjoyed the content that you’ve produced on all these BL related stuff! And all the best for your Japanese works, luve ya dude!
I love how casual this video felt, like at the end of it I said "Bye Perth" 😅
Ha! I’m glad I wasn’t the only one 😸
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Like talking to a good friend❤
Fudge, I found myself doing the same thing 😅
can't agree more !
Don't underestimate the popularity of Ram King! They're pretty much the entire reason we all still want My Engineer 2!
I'm agree with that!!😍😍🤩🤩
@moony8086 Me too!!🤣🤣
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But they r not there in the 2nd season ... i am really sad abt this
@@komalmunakhiya5259 really?? too bad! 😭😭
I love how he's ALSO a RUclipsr!!! These Thai BL actors really go above and beyond for us.
I knew him as youtuber
he literally just said that "bl actor" is an odd label.
@@dearbangtan9668is "Thai actor" better?
i just cringed at your comment, can't explain why.
@@বেড়াল same
I'll never understand fans that forget that actors are just people living their own lives too, not their property or whatever parasocial delusions they might have 😢 Fanservice can be soo cringey and I hate when it feels like they're forced to have any intimate moments, even if just friendly. 'OMG, they touched shoulders!' Sheesh.... Anyway, love these q&a's and congrats on POT! 🎾😊
The actors and film makers do it as well. You see them purposely hanging all over each other without fans asking for it. that's because they want their product to be successful. You can't just blame the fans when the film makers understand the actors getting shipped helps make their movies or TV shows more successful. So they "show off" when in public for exactly that reason.
I think it might be one of those chicken and the egg things. Maybe fans spotted a real spontaneous 'moment', reacted to it and that made people want to do fan service to generate a similar response. Or maybe fan-service came first.
I agree here. I am gay and I find it cringey when fanservice gets too touchy and they are not interested and I can feel that. I don't know enough about BL actors but my experience with Kpop is similar when they played the pepero stick candy games or the use your mouths only to transfer this paper. It just feels off...
@@PerthNakhun haha love the analogy lol I didn't think of the fans being the ones to instigate it but that could be true.
It’s hella cringey, I would prefer to see legit LGBTQIA+ actors playing main lead BL roles and the straight actors can either do the side support or keep doing the Lakorns.
perth you really should consider creating a podcast, your voice is so soothing to listen to 🩷
TOTALLY
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I thought this was a podcast lol
Absolutely ❤
Whenever I think of fan-service, my mind just goes, “Why?, just why?” Personally for me, the couple starts and ends with the series. Shipping actor’s is weird. People need to be able to separate the actor’s from the character’s they play. I honestly do not get why they make something so simple, so complicated.
Anyways, great video. It was a great way to end my day.❤
I am so glad that the only thing I've ever tweeted at you is "The most relatable part of Cutie Pie is Perth trying to eat his own bills, because same bro, same." Some of the things I see "fans" tweet at actors... I just want to walk up to them and go "Would you say this to their faces? No? Then shut up."
It's just social decency.
True, some people are brave or stuipid, I don't know which one it is, like yes I've caught myself thinking some intresting ish and ocassionally even give myself a golly for it but if it was sth funny that still wasn't worth to put out in the world...momentarily I have the luxury of a colleague who has fallen into the same entertainment and therefore understands.
But, I too, lived years without that 2 and sometimes am as surprised and am like "Seriously guys, you do realize that they do read and understand that?!" "I sometimes really don't want to know what our favourite Artists thinks what's going in the heads of their audiences!" It goes from "lol not wrong but did you have to put that online? Gonna be so embarrassing in xy time!" to "This now in the end is just delulu and 2nd hand embarrseement!" (and most likey that are the softest of them) because I left blue bird Island a long time ago....
right? I always imagine them seeing my tweets, if I tweet mean things I would be so mortified
One of my best memories is from when I first joined twitter and I had decided that I would follow only 10 people. So when I followed the 11th, I unfollowed and @ the guy "sorry, but u have exceeded my limit so I am unfollowing you". And well, he retweeted it with "sorry to hear that I was rejected and I hope it will work out next time" or something to that effect and it's been 15 years and it still keeps me up at night lmfao.
P.S. he is a pretty famous actor. The Male Lead of Warehouse 13 (I don't remember his name). He was replaced by Nathan Fillion in my list lmao.
@@Furrina89 that's WILDDDD 😭
"It's just people loving people" you are so right and you're such a sweetheart! I REALLY want to see you in more works because you're a good actor and a lovely guy. Congratulations for being in "Prince of Tennis" musical. Love from Brazil!
This man has an insanely lovable personality, and a really comforting voice!
Gonna start watching his shows!!
As always, I appreciated how sincerely you answered each question. Granted, you speak from your own experience however I do believe that it gives us a great insight in the industry whose products we consume. I also appreciated that you mentioned the s. harassment that the actors are constantly being putting through since it quite often, feels way too out of control (my guess is that sometimes, some people, forget that you guys are human being that will see that specific comment!). So again, thank you Perth for the video and good luck with your projects in Japan!
I think the kind of interesting thing is that I don't think the people saying those things would say them to you if they met you in real life. But since everything is online there's a sense of anonymity and also they might not think that the actors actually read their comments (we do).
@@PerthNakhun thank you for caring, we'll try to be better fans too!
I read ‘tea’ i click 🍵👀
I read 'Perth' i click x)
10:59 speaking as a bi person with some gender fluidity, at the core it is very simply a person loving another person. The differences are superficial and also come down to the individual. Gender is an aspect of a person but there are so many other factors. You don't love them because they're a girl or a guy, you love them for the person they are. When you describe the things about someone you love, many of those things won't be gender-specific, for some examples, a sense of humour, kindness, passion for art, dedication to their family or their business, shared values, adventurous, quiet... Anyone can be those things.
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exactly! 🙌 when someone asks that question "what did you first notice/were first attracted to... ?" who says "he was a boy/she was a girl" ? it might be something physical yes, but not that they were purely a 'male/female'.
@@kristalclearly9777because it goes without saying. It's different for bi people since they are attracted to both genders but for straight or gay people it is the first thing, which is so basic that it doesn't need to be mentioned. You are just not gonna see any other characteristics in a romantic light otherwise. We form our first impressions of people in the first 10 seconds. We decide if we are attracted to them in that time too. So yeah, you notice a nice smile, a good sense of humor etc but it's always in regards to platonic or romantic feelings (friendships or sexual/romantic relationships).
This is all of course true, but I think most people are more skeptical about straight people playing gay roles because straight people won't ever fully understand the nuances of homophobia and discrimination that gay and LGBTQ+ people in general face, as well as just the complex identities they formed growing up that straight people just didn't experience and thus would kind of only gain some sort of understanding by talking to queer friends. Thus, people think straight people may not completely get the character their playing, which is a fair concern. However, when the characters someone's playing don't really deal with the complexities of a queer identity in a drama, as Perth's really haven't, then I think the concern about straight people playing them can be soothed since a straight actor could understand them more easily.
Congratulations on the new musical, dear Perth, and thanks for the video! I've missed you!
Really enjoyed your video! I'm an old lady (56 now, ugh) from Kentucky, but I love watching all sorts of shows from lots of different countries. Thanks for sharing all your knowledge about the Thai BL industry. Also, congratulations on your new project! Imaging the difficulty of just being in a musical, but adding to singing, acting, and dancing you are throwing in another language AND a sport?? That's amazing! Good luck to you, young one!
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@@Vonnels woot! Cool! Louisville for me!
@@catmacg I'm just outside of Lexington in Georgetown. Nice to see another BL fan since I was certain I was it. :D I visit my Kpop friend in Lville occasionally.
@@Vonnels Ahhhh, Kpop, my second addiction! Saw Oneus when they came, it was so fun.
Love that you pointed out the BL stories have become more complex. I think in the past the themes were quite repetitive and kind of one dimensional but now the stories have so much depth and character development and that’s been my favorite part of the evolution of BL. I’m also so so happy that GLs are becoming more of a thing because queer girls deserve representation too!! That being said regarding the comment about “mature content” I think it makes sense when it fits the story, but sometimes it does feel forced and when it’s forced it leaves a bad taste in my mouth. The great thing is that because there’s so many BLs you can really choose what fits your preferences, there’s plenty of soft and cute dramas and there’s plenty that have mature content as well (and by mature I mean not just sex but themes that include violence, trauma, etc).
watching as a queer fan, i appreciate the phrasing of "people loving people" so much. it was subtle, but it impacted me. i adore you perth
I agree that recently actors have calmed down with the fanservice and I appreciate it a lot. As you've said some like it and some don't, I personally just like to see the cast getting along, including the lead couple but putting on an act for fans usually feels weird to me, especially because it creates such a problematic interaction between fans who do and the ones who don't like it meaning especially the ones that do like it also always "fall" for it in the sense that they throw big words like homophobia around whenever people tell them that it's in fact just fan service and that said actors have neither confirmed nor denied dating or even being into people of the same sex. As you've said, it's cool just taking it with a pinch of salt and having fun with it but unfortunately there will always be people reading way too much into it and genuinely believing these interactions to be true without there being any form of confirmation. But I feel like recently it has calmed down, everyone is just promoting their shows, having fun and getting along in a friendly way which is so fun to watch.
" Prince of Tennis" is one of my favorites! Congratulations to you! And that's gonna be fun watching my favorite actor playing that as well!!!
This video was really interesting and I always love to get your honest and fresh perspective on what's going on with the industry but the real reason I had to make a comment is...
Perth you are absolutely GLOWING right now. Drop the skin care routine ASAP😂
I had make up on in this video...
@@PerthNakhun I'm sure you still have some great tips and tricks for us though makeup is best when you're taking care of your skin otherwise 😊
The main things that have helped me the most is cleansing properly and keeping my skin hydrated/moisturised. @@MssMercedes
@@PerthNakhun thank you!
@@PerthNakhun thank u for being honest about that ppl look at a lot of asian celebrities these days and feel bad about their skins
For someone who just started watching Thai shows 6 months ago and started watching BLs 5 months ago Cutie Pie and My Engineer was one of the first 5 BLs I binged watched and I have been hooked ever since on anything Thai BL. For me it's my comfort zone. I just love the stories that are told and the different level of intimacy. Thank you for doing this there are a lot that I am still trying to binge between new ones that have come out. It is a lot!
few months ago i started cutie pie the saw the reel to the engineer - when did perth leave australia to have that beautiful aussieland accent!
It's true how our comfort zones are literally bl dramas🤝💓
Thai BLs will always hold a special place in my heart. Back when there was almost no representation, Love of Siam was a story about people I could (secretly) relate to for once. I’m happy to see how it has grown more robust
I feel like the fan service debacle can clearly divide fandom, and from what Ive noticed, international fans are the ones who don't need/want fan service, who don't care about it, while the Thai fans want it, sometimes even demand it. It seems to me like a lot of Thai fans can't distinguish between onscreen stuff and reality.
It also seems quite connected to the age of the fans, from what I've observed. Some younger fans seem to have less awareness of fan service being part of people's job.
Actually, it's more about the age of the fans. Not all Thai fans want fan service, I mean, they do enjoy it at some certain levels but not all wants it. And like I said, it's about the age of the fans, younger fans seems less aware of fan service being part of the actor's job. The older fans are very aware of it, they can differentiate whether the pairing's relationship is real or fan service. They enjoy it at certain levels of fan service and some likes to joke with actors about the actors being in a relationship, it's a way of their joking and dream, that's all. Yes, they want their pairings to date for real but they also know the limits too. Younger fans are less aware.
The thing about the sex sells (I know you covered it with "mature content" but let's call it what it is), it's true that having intimate scenes in a series makes people talk and even watch it. We've seen it with some series going viral beyong the BL community. Personally, I don't mind intimate scenes but sometimes it's quite obvious they're added just to "satisfy" a certain audience. I wish BL producers would focus more on writing complex characters and leave out these scenes that are just there to make people scream at their screens. Or rather implement them better into the story. There's a series currently airing that perfectly does that, it's a fun watch while also offering great plot and drama. It's all about being authentic while still making something fun or exciting.
We've come a long way since those early BLs and at this point there's some really great stuff out there. I hope we'll continue to make good content and not add scenes without context just for one sole purpose
Which series were you referring to that does it perfectly?
@TheNychthemeronThing Only Friends. While they have a lot of 18+ scenes in the beginning they later on focus on the characters and make it emotionally dramatic
Congratulations on being in Tenimyu! My last time watching tenimyu was in Generation 5. Now you are in it, it’s time to pick up tenimyu again! I have to find out which team you are on. Anyway for recent BL, it’s not just saturated, it’s over saturated so for me, it’s simple, any trailer than doesn’t catch my attention automatically gets pushed down and I wait and watch for stories which trailers catches me. Mature content or not, for me it’s the story. Yeah I can consume mature content for the sake of it but it’s kinda like fast food, people can get bored easily even though it’s yummy, fast and convenient. Great job Perth with the Q&A. Thanks for sharing so much with us!!
i so agree with this!! i too get tired of catching up on everything like back then and now just watch what i feel like i would like because theres just too much 😭
I really appreciate how honest but also diplomatic you are, it is a fine balance to spill the tea without burning yourself and you manage to do it❤
Oh, your English is so “clean” that I could understand everything without making pauses and it was a very nice experience. Thanks so much for talking about BL industry and fan service (I hate it 😅).
Thank you for coming out and telling us some of this information. Normally on the fan side there is a lot of mis information and also fans claiming to like know how people feel or actors. So it is nice to finally hear it from the source.
Thanks for always being an awesome person
Yes but I often think that it's immature fans who don't really have good understand on how the world works in general.
Can we talk about how amazing Perth look in this video? I needed to watch the first minutes again because I didn't listen because he looks so handsome. I love his hair like that so much.
Ok, back to thr content. I really love how honestly perth speaks about the industry and about fanservice. I hope there will be more videos like this in the future. And also great questions. I love perths kind of view about love. Such a great guy.
I really want to know which novel he reads for a series. 😂
Great video. Love it!
It's so interesting to hear about your perspective from a thai (bl) actor himself!
I personally mostly dislike fanservice, especially when the actors are forced to do things they are not really comfortable with it, but do it bc they know the fans love it + their series get more recognition. Also, fake/pretend relationships are so awkward. I do love real life chemistry though, whether that's just because you are great friends, have a close bond, or in some cases, a more romantic connection. It's just nice seeing people work together and actually having fun together!
11:21 "we are all going to die anyway" 😂 But seriously, I've always said this myself; as long as you are not hurting someone, just do whatever you want/makes you happy!
Congrats on your role in a musical 🎉
Yeah me too I'm not comfortable with fan service
I am rooting for natural chemistry only like you do but I think they've already got it that it's way much better and more successful that way so they created those workshops for actors to give them time to adjust and dig deeper in the connection they have. So it's happening. It's not so depressing if you think about it. Basically most actors have an intention of being really friendly, lovable and understanding of each other and it's not for the sake of money or fame, it's for genuine purposes. For us.
This dude is so chill, love it, barely anyone in BL is chill like this
I would just like to say that I am doing my master's thesis about the LGBT community in Thailand and I have a chapter dedicated to the BL industry and these videos have been very helpful within my work as great evidence from someone who has experienced the industry, so I would just like to thank you so much for this. I've been learning Thai but I am still only on a basic level, so having this input in English and like first hand knowledge is really going to help with my paper. You are a life saver and I absolutely love all your work, and I can't wait to see what you do next!
0:25 LIKE WHAT!?! Perth was literally one of my ult ships. I still can’t get over RamKing and don’t think I ever will
Literally every answer I was like “oooh yeah that makes sense” or “oh wow so insightful!” or “this is so cool Perth is so cool for doing this for fans” thanks dude!
Wow just found your channel and you are so insightful. Loved your answers, especially in response to straight actor playing gay role. You are right love is love no matter the person. If people would focus on being kind and being happy and not worrying about who’s loving who the world would be a better place
How can't I love Perth more? This Q&A was so interesting because his point of view is a nice thing to ear. I'm very grateful for give us a opinion sincere
Just got into BL last year and KinnPorsche is my favorite so far so it’s great to hear your input on things
Perth’s voice so calming, I love hearing about his thoughts on things and his experiences but honestly half the time in just at peace with his tone. 🙂
I legit nearly screamed when I heard you'll be in the Prince of Tennis musical! I've been a fan of Prince of Tennis for several years, musicals included and hearing you say you'll be part of the musical literally made my day! I'm going to take a shot in the dark and guess which character you'll be portraying if you'll be in Seigaku and that's Oishi Shuichiro.
I think Intouch did an amazing job with that show! Some fan service is over the top, as an adult i enjoy seeing my ship together but also i know the difference from reality and entertainment. Love is love!
Also congrats to you for realizing all of the awesome opportunities you get as an actor vs. the typical “family dad” you will not regret this time I promise you! I missed out, being a stay at home mom myself even tho I graduated from college with honors. And now I barely just got a job as a front office receptionist. Take the life opportunities you can! Experience as much as possible while you can! Love will be there but it will take a lot of your time so it will be better to have experienced life first and then settle down you will feel like you have lived your life and are ready for the next chapter. So don’t compare yourself to others from your personal life. You’re doing amazing!
he is so insightful i really appreciate this. it’s good to know how accepting and understanding people are in respect to their careers, especially actors in playing certain characters or roles.
At the beginning I did not know of fan service, so I thought everything is genuine and they are together in real life. 😂 But honestly, I’d rather there would be no fan service pressure at all. Fans have gone too crazy because of fan service. Going to the extent of hating specific actors because they broke the “couple” and decided to act in straight dramas only or couple with someone else. Some fans forget that actors just do their jobs at the end of the day. Or fans hating on the actor’s real life partners because of the show “couple”. This is just wrong. If I like an actor I like him or her for their talent and for how they portray a role. Some fans just want to dictate everything that the actor is doing in his or her life.
Read my comment above
I think it should limit the fan service or fans have awareness to separate reality and illusions
Regarding the last question, I think there's still plenty of innocent school story type of BLs - it's nice to have a range of series to choose from! I've kind of outgrown school stories, but as for innocent vs. steamy, it just depends on what I'm in the mood for. And now I can pick according to my tastes rather than just watching the few crumbs I could find :P
I love how real and wholesome you are. I also like knowing what the acting world [BL or mot] is like behind the scenes. I personally could never, ‘cause performance anxiety, but I admire the people who work that line of business and are making a name for themselves. You’re one of my favorite actors, so I like knowing your opinion and learning how your mind works. Keep slaying the game as an awesome human!
Every bl has one job and that is to show that the characters love each other. Some have started using the mature scenes more to do this but the rest of the show doesn't have the dialog and depth for us to truly believe it. You gotta show the attraction, the care, the worry, and everything else that comes with loving someone. With the amount out there now you can find characters that suit you and make you happy to rewatch and I love that our selection has become so broad now we can't even watch it all
I love the vibe of this video and the genuine answers! Very interesting questions you picked too! Thank you for making this!! :)
He was literally my favorite actor in kin Porsche soooo happy he had this RUclips channel love his videos
Perth looks so handsome in this video. His skins looks so healthy and I really liked his hair style. Also appreciated the perspective and comments he made in this video, I just really noticed that he looks very handsome. 😂
You are so good at analyzing situations and just seeing the honesty and rationale in them. Every time I listen to you do an episode like this it reaffirms why I have so much respect for you as an Entertainer and a person in general. Your success is great never compare yourself to others. Everything you want will come in due time. It seems you are truly enjoying your life and living it to the fullest. Keep up the good work, you truly are an awesome person.
I really liked your take on the maturity of how BL is being produced. When I first got into Thai BL, I was in college and really enjoyed ones that took place in university settings because it was relatable, buuuut now I'm 25. I skip many of those now because they aren't as mature as I want them to be. Which is perfectly fine for the genre, but as an adult, I like watching other adults in adult settings. I am glad that actors aren't being pressured into those roles though as it is a job at the end of the day, and they shouldn't feel harassed into fan service. Thanks for your candid responses!
Keeping doing you Perth. I love how natural and real the Q&A was. Your videos are always nice.
I'm glad you shed light on that last question. I know there is talk with the cast members on how far things would go in certain scenes before they're even hired on, at least letting the actors know so that they can make informed decisions. When we see the end product, we have to understand those actors went through workshops and managed to create a connection and are comfortable with each other. I don't think there is any pressure placed on them to do more mature things, you explained it very well and I thank you for it Perth.
Perth thank you for this video! I’ve watched all your work and have been a fan of BL for about 5 years. After watching nearly all series from the Thai Bl industry it has made me look for deeper connections with people. I know it’s all acting but the love and strength you find in friendships and relationships within the different series made me want them connections in real life. You as a actor give us all a much wider look about life around us and always there to help us understand things within the Bl acting world. Thank you for being you and sharing your thoughts with us. I look forward to seeing what other work you do. Ram is still one of my favourite characters!
19:55 Felt that: a while back I was able to watch every bl as it was airing (not only thai but also chinese, taiwanese and korean) but now.. I can't keep up, especially with thai bls. I still watch a ton of them, but I've definitely not seen everything that aired in the last 1-2 years. I mean, at least now we can be more picky about what to watch, as we have more content to choose from, whilist back in the day those 3 series were all we had and it was either that or nothing. If you think about it, all the other genres are "oversaturated", as it would be impossible to watch i.e. every single horror or romance or fantasy movie/series ever (also because they've been around for longer). We are noticing it with bls because we saw this genre grow over time, from niche to more mainstream, but i think this is just the normalization (?) process.
Having said that, I do feel like some of the more recent series are a bit rushed, and it seems like they prioritize quantity over quality- while I think most people would prefer less stuff but done with care.
On the other hand I do see some growth, and I'm very happy that the industry is evolving! Having been around for a while now and having seen almost 400 bl dramas (ik, I have issues and I keep track of everything), sometimes I feel like a proud mama lol
Anyways, as always, thank you for the video and good luck for the new project! :)
(english is not my first language and while I'm usually not too bad at it, my brain ain't braining at the moment, so excuse my mistakes '^^)
thank you so much for sharing your thoughts and personal experiences, the way you’re always talking about your job is so mesmerizing. honestly you’re always so respectful with every topic you talk about and i really agree with the way your think about the bl industry, wishing you the best in your future projects!
I could honestly listen to you chat about things all day. Thanks for this. 😸
I recently watched My Engineer and I was very impressed with how you played Ram. You managed to convey so much emotion with how few lines you had in that show. 👏
You really need to have a podcast in the future. You always make sense when you speak.
his voice is so soothing too!
he does have plans (just not the time yet, I guess). But it's definitely something he wants to do!
i love hearing your thoughts about the BL industry because i'm always a little bit worried about the cast involved in any BL drama and the pressure they're under in terms of the ship and fanservice. i'm happy to hear international worry and comments gets back to the producers etc so they can rectify things in another project. you explain it all so well and eloquently; thank you so much!
We love these Q&A with you mate.
Perth, I'll rush past my compliment on how great your hair looks as it gets longer and get right to content. Besides giving us the truth tea, your personality is so great and what you share about your life is quite interesting. Thank you.
I think the ott, manufactured fanservice has chilled out alot and the more natural fanservice is much more common now. Its also much more pleasant to watch as a fan. Guys who are close friends act kind of gay lol. I think that's true in many cultures. So its not necessary to force anything if you find 2 guys who are compatible and become close easily. And fans can tell. Fans can feel it when 1 guy is uncomfortable or when theyre putting on a show. Natural fanservice is the way to go imo
When you mentioned that nowadays there are so many bl series coming out that we can't finish them unless we use all our free time watching bl to finish half of it I chocked on air 😂 Me as a free student who goes to school rarely with 67% attendance and spends all her free time watching bl, I can't even finish a bl drama in 3 days 🥲 Or maybe it's cause I start rewatching my old ones-
no bestie ik the life of the creatives could be difficult stability wise but i’m a business grad and believe me the happiness isn’t there. i’m still working on figuring myself out, where do i go in life and how do i deal with my mental stuff. whereas i think if i’ve went down a creative path (like i’ve always wanted before) it could’ve been much more liberating. and lastly, even if you have a more “conventional” job money isn’t a guarantee either. ofc it’s your choice but honestly, have no regrets.
anyways love you millions, my day maker!! it’s always such a pleasure listening to you talk about anything and everything < 3
Thanks for the Q&A! It was really interesting. "Unless you're super duper famous, beggars can't be choosers." This makes a lot of sense haha
I also love what you said about people loving people, I don't think I've heard from a lot...or from any Japanese 2.5D actors talk about their thoughts like that but it would be great if you could be open about that in Japanese too. Unless you're somehow not allowed to be (in Japanese(??))
Anyway!! Good luck at Osaka and see you at the end of your Tokyo run!! Can't wait to see you sing and dance about tennis!
Thank you, Perth! Please keep doing these, I love them! I'm pretty new to Thai BL and you've given me so much fascinating info about it. I'm really glad you addressed fanservice - I know it's popular, but I've seen SO many fans saying, and I agree, that we'd rather not have it if it makes the actors at all uncomfortable or causes them any trouble. Personally, I think if the couple is not actually real, they should stick to only behaving like friends at events and such.
I cracked up when you said "ain't so good at reading Thai," I immediately thought of Gemini raging at his documents in Cutie Pie, LOL.
I hope this doesn't come across as offensive, I don't mean it to be, but I have to say - I wasn't aware you're straight, Perth, and while yes, you're right, people are people, it doesn't matter...not every actor is willing to portray characters who don't share their orientation, so permit me to respect you even more than I previously did.
Omigod, you're doing Tenimyu?! Congrats! Jesus, what generation are they up to now? Can you tell us who you're playing?
So refreshing to hear your perspective on things! Have you thought about doing a podcast?
Many times... but I've yet to start one.
@@PerthNakhun Please do! Would be awesome, so many interesting things you could talk about
Guys we need more actors like Perth i'm so serious. He's such a well spoken, educated and chill person ever and the way he chooses to pick a topic and explains it to us is so friendly and genuine. it's always so good to listen to him speaking. I'm a fan since his multilingual IG lives lol. Keep it up, Perth.
I started watching bl in 2018, back then I watched basically anything I could get my hands on 😅, but for the last couple of years the quality of a lot of shows has dropped because there are now so many being produced. But the quality of the good ones has definitely improved since 2018, there is now a large variety of storylines and characters.
I don’t really mind fan service but I don’t pay much attention to it, I prefer just to watch the drama, I do watch a lot of kpop fan service though so my views are a bit conflicted. I don’t like forced fan service, I am also not a fan of fan service that is portrayed as being real or ambiguous.
Perth, I just want to say that you're awesome. It's hard, in the entertainment world today, who to believe. I love your honesty and candor and wish you nothing but love and success.
I loved this! The mature series question, I 100 % agree with. Some days I want fluffy, like MSP, some days I want sweet romance, like ATOTS, and other days spicy, like KinnPorsch. However, I don't feel any entertainer should be pushed into doing more then they are comfortable doing. The last question's answer was so honest and I feel the same way. If the scene is just gratuitous, leave it out. I want the romance, the storyline, the emotions. Thanks Perth. ❤❤ from America
Love what you're saying - around the thought that producers have about people wanting more mature content that you mentioned at 20:55, the truth is we as viewers may enjoy more mature content but we don't enjoy it if the acting quality and story isn't there. KinnPorsche was a great balance of an enthralling story, interesting characters, great acting, and intimate moments that made the viewer feel they were seeing people express love, looking behind the curtain. Always needs to be a balance. There are so many BLs that are basically softcore p*rn that the BL audiences collectively disavow as crap.
Love your channel. Just here to tell your followers that there is another group of fans of BL series. Yes we retired people over 60 😍Many of us older folks are only discovering BL. Unlike your younger followers we see BL series as a wonderful travel back in time. The stories, places, fashion and styles may be different but the emotions of gay love, the hunting, the jealousy and finally finding the person you love remains the same. Keep up the good work and hope to see as a very successful actor soon. 😍😍😍
I love Perth! He’s so sweet and like a close friend to all of us
I find every one of Perth’s posts enlightening. He is a great communicator. Thanks Perth for sharing your insights and experiences with us.
"As long as you're not hurting anyone, then who the hell cares!" Exactly what I think!
I enjoyed this video alot and I really wanna see perth in a really complex character where we can see his acting shine whether that be in or out of the bl genre. I really believe that if given the opportunity he could bring some really complex and deep characters to life. Hope your hard work comes to fruition, perth! You're a cool dude and a good actor.
Hey. It is acting. It is your work. You are creating art.
Just live. Enjoy your life.
You are one of my favourite actors (note *ACTORS) in the world because you seem like a very wholesome human being! I have loved your acting in everything I've seen you in. But I think I particularly like you because of RUclips and the philosophy you bring with every BL-themed video on here. You are also very handsome. Thank you! 😊
As a bl fan, I’m am so thankful for this video. The way you answered those questions make me want to invest more in your channel.
Awesome video! Love you insight into the acting world and Thai Industry. Also I saw you in Prince of Tennis, you did soo good! I didn’t except you to sing so well! 😅❤
Thank you!
I hope to see you in more BL! and I just watched a couple of bls not even realizing that it is you . Kudos to your acting!
14:19 I get it what you’re saying. Specially whatever stuff happened in Kinnporsche set, including actors who were then underage got harassed by the writers. Not every production has a safe environment. Even if majority people are genuinely good, even one or two people can act inappropriately and ruin the good atmosphere. I hope everyone gets to work in a safer and warmer environment, no matter what their role in the production is.
I wasn't actually referring to a production or on set environment. After watching the video back my explanation wasn't very clear but I was actually referencing comments made by fans directed at myself and other actors. That being said I'm not saying that there aren't issues on sets.
@@PerthNakhun Thanks for clarifying, Perth. Yes I agree about the comments, and there are often malicious comments including harassment related ones. However the good thing is these haters get called out by majority of the fans and it’s good when companies take action including legal action when some fans get too problematic with their comments or actions.
Also although I mentioned about the workplace harassment issues I am aware that majority of the people are friendly and kind to each other. However in some companies, from a fan perspective, the whole group including the directors, producers, staff, etc do feel like one big family and I think actors would feel more at ease to give their best performances, whereas in other circumstances this might not be true. It’s natural for fans to not be aware of every behind the scenes issues, so we don’t really have the right to judge, but as long as issues are addressed and properly sorted out it’s fine I guess. 😇
@@PerthNakhun I understood what you meant, some of the comments I've seen are disturbing. For me, the line is blurred of what's okay and what's too personal. Like those channels where idols read thirst tweets... Sometimes it's funny and sometimes it seems really uncomfortable.
He was talking about fans and he was absolutely right but most people out there just choose to ignore that they are actually hurting artists. It's gone crazy and I hate that. And you just proved my point that most fans are just like that. Ignorant even when it is shoved right in their faces.
@@erinskvi don’t think there was a need to have a rude reply, that’s what the tone of your comment gives anyways. it seems they just misinterpreted what was said, it happens, even Perth said his explanation wasn’t as clear.
Wow you doing some heavy lifting for us international fans, thank you for your candid comments and insights. Thank you for reminding us about the s.h. Bl actors experience from fans. I wonder how much of that occurs within the production system though itself. Unfortunately I imagine it's not unknown. And you are for sure right! I used to watch every BL out there, now I can't keep up with the few I do watch!!
I’m voicing out then: I don’t like fan service because I feel like although you can ship people healthily, many people cannot, then you have cases of it coming out that one person in the ship is dating someone else and they get death threats and harassment. Fan service definitely contributes to people’s feeling of entitlement inside a relationship they are not in. Like, when the Freen thing came out, I saw people going “oh, poor Becky, she’s heartbroken” and use that to justify being bad to Freen because she “hurt Becky”, as if she was cheating on her, but we have nothing to do with their personal lives and, let’s be real, most likely Becky was well aware of it always and never cared
Feels like I'm just out for a drink with a friend and he's just telling me about his job. Really comfortable.
I don’t have an issue with fan service because it’s the fans who choose how to view it. I personally think fans overthink it if they are is a pair that spend a lot of time together it’s natural for them to care for each other so watching 2ppl take care of each other isn’t a manipulation of the fan I think its a natural by product of ppl working together and forming a relationship
Absolutely agree on that. People manipulate themselves thinking a certain way. You choose the way you think about anything you see and no one can force you to see that at a certain angle. In most cases there is nothing romantic and suspicious going on between the actors so basically fans are just overthinking and sexualising those actors they "like". But what I hate the most is that they so obviously spread their negative perception of such things on other fans and the actors themselves. It's just ignorance and a lack of intelligence, that's all. As simple as that.
Personally I’m okay with fan service IF it’s not completely forced and uncomfortable for the actors! I like it more when they’re doing it because it’s fun for them or they genuinely enjoy doing it.
Thank you for taking the time to talk with us and help us understand the BL industry a little more. I have a few thoughts to share as a BL fan.
Fan Service - I find it confusing because sometimes it looks so real and come to find out it's "fake", so it leaves me with a not very good impression.
Mature Content - I personally feel less is better than more about how explicit a scene really needs to be. Unless it truly fits the story in an authentic way. Most of the time a more tasteful thoughtful scene without everything being shown, is way more expressive and emotionally fulfilling as the viewer.
Best of luck with your role in Japan!! PS - I visited Thailand this summer and watched your Thai language video first. Thank you for everything! ❤❤❤
Fan service is not always negative and is not always fake. Even normal people do fan service for a certain reason and level too. Fan service is made by an agreement from the actors of which level they want to show their fans, but those services are NOT always fake. You have to realize which is fake and which is genuine, but if you can't tell by facial expressions and action microscopes then you won't be able to differentiate it. You have to look at their facial expressions and body language, if you see their comfort of being around one another then they are genuine. But if you see stiff body language or slightly a face that aren't "real", then that means it's fan service. However, doing a fan service, both actors have to make an agreement.
His acting skill as ram in my engineer is 🔥🔥 and also his English is so good
It just feels so confortable in here. I love it! ❤
Perth, I love you. You’re just the best. This is so chill it’s literally like talking to that cool friend at a Starbucks.
I love how Perth makes his videos omg
So informative, structured and funny)
I like to listen to your talk while doing housework,so, please we wait for new videos
I think context is everything for whether or not playing a different sexuality would be difficult to do. I have seen plenty of BLs where the setting doesn't have much (or even any) prejudice. In which case I agree that there's virtually no difference to playing a gay or straight character.
But if the setting is more realistic, there is something to be said for how to approach a character that may have very different life experiences - being closeted, dealing with bigotry or even violence, internalized homophobia, self-hatred, shame, etc - and how that would affect their personality and ways expressing themselves. It's a different headspace to play a character that has to be constantly concerned with how others see them, being "found out", being stereotyped, etc.
"That's what she said." 😂😂 Sir, I had to pause the video so I could stop laughing! 😂😂😂
You’re an amazing actor and between 2020 to date, I have deliberately watched most if not all of your tv shows. Your character (Ram) and your ship on my engineer were my favorite part of the entire series. I am still waiting on season 2 🤞🏽
Thank you for the "industrial" Q & A video...I found it relaxed and genuine... well done!
Well articulated!! Your opinions and thoughts were well phrased. Perth your voice is incredibly soothing..best of luck in your career. We would love to see you in more series !
Thank you for this episode Perth! I totally enjoyed the content that you’ve produced on all these BL related stuff! And all the best for your Japanese works, luve ya dude!
2:52 Thai Pink movies have been waaaaay popular before the BL Series came out! Only legends know!