Ummmm... These are Amazon’s top recommended record players?
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- I came across an article on Amazon, with the headline: The best record players. I'm not sure about you, but I have a problem with this list.
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I'm one of those guys that looks for old Technics 70s, 80s, 90s for cheap that people don't want & have no idea they are a great piece of history. Then I help my friends transition from cheap new tables to old greatness!
SL-D2 here!!👍✌
Technics sl1200 G here 😃
Just thrifted a Technics sl-QD33 3 days ago! Came with everything including the stylus for just $50 flat
Yeah. It seems foolish to buy even "ok" entry level turntable for 100-200 € When you can easily pick up proper quality Sony/Pioneer/Technics etc... from 80's for the same price.
Somehow, Amazon equates "most purchased" and/or "most reviewed" with BEST.
It doesn't work that way.
That being said, I recommended the AT-LP60 just last Christmas. It's a good starter table, fully automatic, which is also somewhat able to be upgraded. Pair it with some modest powered speakers and you actually have a good starter system for well under $300.
Great video, Frank.
Thanks Paul!
Amazon's recommendations are not hand-picked by a team of expert audiophiles; they are put together by a marketing team which is looking at the products that most people are searching for, buying, and giving positive ratings and reviews. Like you, I am by no means recommending that people buy these players. But the Crosley Cruiser-type suitcase players have been on the market since 2012. That's an entire decade! So if they were really as bad as all the "experts" (who have never actually owned or used one) claim, surely by now we would've seen that reflected in a decline in record sales and interest in vinyl -- but instead, it keeps growing every year. So, you have to admit that despite their shortcomings, they are a net benefit to the vinyl community.
I had one for a few weeks before I had my Mum's old Sanyo serviced...they're not great with 180gm records, they skip like mad.
@@vollsticks The skipping problem is usually due to the cueing lever not lowering all the way, and easily fixed. Record-ology did a video about it: ruclips.net/video/i1YIh7y_uuU/видео.html
As always, you totally rock vwestlife! It is appropriate though to laugh at a single speaker that is "stereo". New tech like that should be big news in the audio world!
It's just like any other sport or hobby, you have to start somewhere. If you are just getting started, you might be intimidated by a component system and the price that comes along with it. If you enjoy collecting and listening to records you will quickly outgrow your suitcase player opt for something nicer.
@@gaineyjohnson6628 It could have a mono built-in speaker, but play in stereo through the headphone and line outputs. Several Crosley models are like that.
As always, I enjoyed the video.
I still recommend the LP60 to newbies, as my first choice. It’s not too expensive, it’s fully auto, and most importantly, doesn’t require any real setup. Bungling counterweight and tracking force, and anti skate, aren’t obvious to someone new to the format.
They hear sound, so to them it’s working, while potentially tearing through the media and stylus unbeknownst to them.
End of the day, while there are 100s of turntables that are better than an LP60, the unit isn’t going to destroy any records; it’s fully auto, so they can see the whole operation happen, and know that it’ll cue up right, and return itself to the cradle on its own, and for the price…they can upgrade without feeling like they spent too much on something they didn’t know much about, and now feel like they have to live with it for awhile.
I know I didn’t know what I wanted, or could even expect of a table when I found my way back to vinyl. I waited longer than most to do proper gear upgrades, but when I did…I knew what was available at my desired price point, I knew how to read and understand a spec sheet, and after seeking out several RUclips reviews and VS vids I felt confident in my chosen upgrade path. I would have screwed this up so bad, had I tried to do it when I was new?
If they have a budget and wish to dive in a little deeper, great! But. My hope is that they have a friend or someone they know who is knowledgeable/experienced enough to help them set it up properly to begin with.
My two cents.
For sure - nothing wrong with the LP60 as an entry turntable. I did a video awhile back about my recommended turntables, and I had it in there as well.
@@Channel33RPM direct drive even better , is all you need for years
When I was a youth drooling over a prospectus more features meant more better, but fully auto now has no meaning to me. If you think of all the hassle that comes with handling vinyl, surely the final step of lowering the arm manually cannot be the decisive factor in choosing a good sounding table.
Great video Frank! It's so nice to hear your thoughts on what's recommended out there. As I've said before I use a Technics SLDL1 linear tracking turntable that I bought in the 80s. It's served me well all through the years. And now that I've got back into vinyl I still love it. I may upgrade eventually because of the limited p mount cartridges available.
Keep on spinning Frank!!👍
I’d wager a large number of reviews are faked and legit products are deliberately down voted. As for helping new people into vinyl, I almost always recommend vintage. I’m lucky that there are so many available in my area and we have two vintage shops very close that can set up, refresh or restore.
Vintage is a great option for many people... Unfortunately, prices are skyrocketing.
To me a "record player" plays records straight from the box - it therefore has to have an amplifier and speaker built in.
A turntable is different to a record player - it can only play records once hooked up to an amplifier and a set of speakers.
Nothing wrong with record players - they have their place - but none are a match for a turntable, amp and speakers.
8:44 looks like it also has that metal rod up in the air to hold the fishing line for the anti-skating weight, so that's good.
I would recommend the ATLP120 or similar.
Those are decent starter turntables made by Hanpin - the first turntable I bought was a Reloop RP-2000MK3, which was basically the same thing as an ATLP120.
And now, 15 years later, they're still being made because they offer such good value for money.
Byron model "Statics" (!) should make any vinyl-friend duck and cover instinctively... 😂Maybe they should try "anti-static" instead... Oh, and good luck with a regular MM or MC cartridge on an iron platter...
Picked up a Technics SL-QD22 turntable for 6 bucks recently.also,picked up a Pioneer PL-L800 for 40 bucks.both at V.Village.once in a while some luck comes one's way.
Awesome 👌 picks and like the way your kind to cheaper vinyl record players
The AT LP60 is an awesome TT to start on. I loved mine, great sound! The only downside is, the price has progressively gone up since I bought mine new for $80.00. I gifted it to a friend who was looking to get into vinyl, and I upgraded to the AT LP5.
I'm thinking about getting the AT-LP120 and it has all the stuff I'll need, just not that great of a price..
@@mattallen6234 yea, the downside of the vinyl resurgence is ever increasing prices as demand goes up. I got lucky a few years ago when I got my AT-LP5 for $280.00, it normally goes for $450.00. Keep an eye out, you may find a good sale on the 120.
Another awesome video as always
Thanks again!
Great video, Frank. OMG ! can you imagine playing a new $50 record on those TT's ??
New $50 record?
Wow there's just no sense in that.
@@jesusgavemeaids well, any new record .
I've yet to see any new LPs for $50 yet but I wouldn't doubt some places charge that. $30 is pushing it to the limit for me & that doesn't happen often. & it's all just mark up on the price; nothing more, nothing less. I listen to a ton of DIY artists & they & their labels can get by with selling them for as little as $10-12...i would estimate the average I pay around $15-20...sometimes less, sometimes upward to $25....but there's no other reason other than greed to charge more. Especially when there's thousands or more pressed since the more you have pressed the cheaper each unit is...& the DIY artists & bands make only a few hundred or a couple thousand copies & still sell them for that cheap.
Great video Frank
I do agree with you on this subject.
Thanks Landon.
Do any of these Bluetooth turntables allow you to output to a Bluetooth speaker that doesn’t have any aux inputs? They seem to only advertise to speakers via rca cables.
Frank great video I agree with you 100% I started out with a $100 Sony automatic Bell drive work great not the best sound but then I moved up to the fluance and then I upgraded the fluance with a better stylus I kept the same fluence record player but upgraded the stylus and I love it I think a lot of people need to really just study and look into what they really want before they buy and if they're really serious about listening to vinyl records then buy something around $300 and then move up in the future if not stay around $300 and I think that it will do them fine thank you and keep on spinning 😛🤘
Thanks for your reviews! I bought
a Crosley record player for my niece who's getting into vinyl (and asked for the Crosley at Christmas). Yes, the sound is pretty poor through the speakers. So why is it, when I plugged into the headphone jack on the Crosley, did I hear amazing sound coming through my headphones? I'm assuming the supplied cartridge is not top
quality either!
My Pioneer PL-L70 may qulify as one of the best VINTAGE turntables. I got mine at a flea market for $5!
Love the vintage Pioneers! I got a 1978 PL-540 in mint condition for $35.00. I use it along with my much newer AT-LP5.
Thank you for a video that is not about the absurd pricing of new and used vinyl.
The only suitcase record player I like is the one that runs off 4 AA batteries!
I play beat up 60's mono records on it when I'm outside having a picnic with friends just like people did back in the hippie days.
Also if the power goes out I can still keep on spinning!!
Don't worry I also have two decent 80's turntables from Garrard and Technics that I use when I have electricity... haha
I got a Lenco L3808 entry level direct drive turntable. It is one of the numerous Audio Technica lookalikes but I was tempted by the direct drive over the belt driven as budget end belt drives can be a bit flaky when it comes to speed. It had decent reviews and came with an entry level AT cartridge which I upgraded to an AT-VM95ML. The whole lot came to about £300 which is $520 in Canadian dollars. The entry level cartridge would have been OK for a complete newbie and would have cut the cost down by half. It has proper counterbalance and speed adjustment which mine didn't require changing because it was on the money at both 33 and 45, but some reviewers had said theirs ran a little fast. The cartridges track at a very nice 2g and the anti-skate seems to do the job. It is fully manual, which puts off some people, but I honestly don't find that a problem. It is a more than capable deck which paired with a Technics receiver and some Mission speakers sounds pretty good to me.
I've recommended many times the Target brand HEYDAY turntable. I'm not sure if they still sell it in stores, but you can still find them on the secondary market. For $99 it's a very nice little setup. Anti-skate, counterweight, built-in preamp, auto stop, 2 speeds, AT cartridge, belt driven, bluetooth, and so on. A pretty sweet deal for under $100 USD. I bought one for my daughter and I was so impressed with it for the price point.
I have never heard of that turntable. Sounds interesting.
I have a Panasonic SGJ-500 "Triple-Take" AM/FM/Cassette/Phono boom-box, that I got as a birthday gift in '87. It's what I started my taste-driven collection of vinyl with, and now I collect different models of the same type & combo. =;)
Shame no-one will make re-pops of these types... because they'd be better than everyone else's, and everyone would want one. Especially when they learn the stylus can be upgraded to a true diamond-style, which sounds far-better than the sapphire model! =:D
I have a Sony PS-LX310BT turn table I use in my bedroom with small receiver and some decent book shelf speakers to spin vinyl when getting ready for work and for 200$ this is a killer turn table. I have a pioneer PL-530 in my listening room and I have hooked up the Sony TT and could not really tell a difference.
I can vouch for the Pioneer deck from Amazon. Same mechanism as the Audio Technica but with a strobe. I got one 3 years ago and used it alot! Sounds great for such little money.
I can’t say anything as when I got back into vinyl a few years ago, my first player was a Teac all-in-one.. after a couple of years I upgraded to a Rega P1 with an integrated amp and bookshelf speakers and haven’t looked back..
Hello Frank,I think the article states record players which in my interpretation is an all in one suitcase player. I know there are other types in this list which debunks the whole thing. The AT LP60X is the perfect starter turntable.
You know the amazon rating system can be manipulated right? Sellers do it all the time to put themselves at the top of amazons recommended list
That was a great video Frank. We couldn’t stop laughing at your comments (because we were thinking the same things). In all seriousness though, for $400, we have an Audio-Technica AT-LP120-USB turntable AND JBL Professional LSR305 speakers.
Thanks! LP120 + JBLs offers great bang for your buck. Cheers!
I buy my electronic stuff from thrift stores, here in(Oregon), our Goodwill thrift store gives you a couple days to try their electronics out, or return it if it doesn't work. I saved so much money!
It's the "best overall player" for their bottom line. THAT is what they really mean. I mean they are trying to sell stuff so I don't hold that against them, but clearly the idea is to promote a $91 table that they will move 100,000 units of as first time table/birthday gifts as oppose to a $500 table they might move 300 of.
Good point Brandon. One of those record players had 6,000 ratings. How crazy is that??? Imagine how many have sold.
I really miss my family's 1980's kenwood modular system.
AT-LP60 is probably the best entry point for new vinyl customers. The only downside is there's no good way to upgrade the stylus. I tried using LP gear elliptical stylus for this AT cart and it wasn't great. So yes, go Fluance for versatility. Another option I've enjoyed is the Crosley C6.
The used market is not a bad place to start for a first turntable. My first was a used Technics SL1200 from EBay - £300. Needed a new cart, but that would be the first thing you change due to not knowing the age and condition of the one it arrives with. I managed to sell it on for more as I could vouch for its condition too 🙂
Totally agree thanks for the heads up.espachally with the price of vinyl today.
Glad you liked the video.
I got a Crosley Cruiser for Christmas a few years back and I use it weekly. Not to play records mind you, the needle goes nowhere near my vinyl. I just use it as a powered turntable for cleaning. All it’s good for. I like to try fully convert it by removing cartridge and installing a carbon brush on the arm. Lol
I worked at one of the largest record stores in North America, and still do... and those all in one players just couldn't be fixed. It's insane that they would make a best of list that wasn't related to KINDLING... lol
Hey Frank!!! Fun look at new turntables. My newest was built almost 40 years ago so i can't speak on the quality of these ones altho i did buy my oldest a crosley a few yrs back and it broke after 4 months. haha. cheers!!!!Lee
Brother Lee!!! Always good to hear from you buddy!
The last one I could see getting for a kid that is starting to be interested in records.The Audio Technica maybe the best starter though if you want to splurge a bit more for the speakers.
#1 takeaway..Don't get your phonograph advice from Amazon! Try Crutchfield instead.
You are right, but people go to Amazon for everything, and maybe if they had links to next level equipment (in house or not) and marketed these as "beginners'"...
I use the Victrola vpro 2000 (USB) it is an amazing turntable for the money! (A great entry level turntable) just under $150. US
I bought a Marley Bluetooth Turntable at the end of 2019 on sale, I think around AUD$300 which is very similar to the Canadian Dollar. I am very happy with it and I still have a 90's Sony which is still my main setup with my amp , can't beat the old gear.
Hi Frank. I would also like to add Sony PS-LX310BT Bluetooth which is a decent entry level turntable at around 200 Euros. Very user friendly and sounds good.
My husband (68 years old) has increasing disabilities - and is losing functional abilities and has to spend way more time than he would like just resting. We got him one of these portables with some vinyls for Christmas. Did we know we were getting a "beginners" turntable - it allows him to have it near him whether he's in bed or sitting on the couch, or at times when he prefers, on the floor. He can get it out without help - and while it doesn't have the great quality of his turntables from his teens/young adult years in the 70's/80's - it is sufficient for his needs and has brought him some smiles.
I had the AT-LP60X for about a week, it's not pathetic for a starter turntable but is very light and plasticky-the lack of build quality put me off a bit, especially coming from a 1982 Sanyo given to me by my Mum (great turntable, I still have it, forgotten the exact make, though). I read in a few places that a good rule of thumb for TT weight is anything over 5kg. I now have a Sony PS-HX500, it's down from £400 to £300 on Amazon UK at the moment, I see. The design is probably Marmite to some, it's very sleek and minimal, no automatic tonearm return which isn't a big deal for me but may be a deal-breaker for some. Adjustable tonearm counterweight, anti-skate and headshell, it sounds really good, especially paired with the Sony STR-DH190 Stereo Receiver (about the same price as the turntable, iirc?). The PS-HX500 has won a bunch of awards since it came out from dedicated Hi-Fi websites and publications so that was why I went for it, though I did consider both the Rega Planar (?) and the Fluance you mentioned in the video. It also had around 150+ 4 star reviews on Amazon. It has fantastic bass response with no "overhang", sits on the ever-so-slightly trebly side of neutral and offers a wonderfully detailed sound. I got some fairly cheap passive Wharfdale "bookshelf" speakers--you would need bloody big bookshelves for these, though, they're big and really heavy and complement my set-up nicely.
I have that turntable at 7:31, although it’s a different brand, it’s the exact same design and $100 cheaper. it’s honestly not that bad, the speakers sound good for the price, and I haven’t ran into issues with skipping at all.
Ooh, a handle. I bought an untested ION USB player today for $5 that DOESN'T feature a handle. Gonna test it with a Pseudo Echo LP I found for $1.50 as well. I'm cheap.
I have one of those. Not sophisticated but is a user-friendly way of digitising the vinyl collection, which is what I use mine for.
Just an FYI...There is such a thing as a stereo speaker (singular). I don't know if that cheap record player has one or not. Single Stereo speakers are sometimes used in ceilings. Essentially it is one, dual voice coil, woofer with two tweeters where the tweeters face in different directions to give a stereo effect. Separation is not great but it does work.
Cool. Thanks for the info.
When I was a kid I had the Fisher price all in one player lol
My entry-level separates turntable was a Sony PSJ10 at the end of the 90's. I think you can still get them new, and mine was a solid workhorse for a good 10 years or more. Certainly very good value, but you do need an amp and speakers or a midi hifi with aux inout to use it, which were common when I first had mine.
Techmoan did a review of last year's suitcase models and I think they all have the same basic single-unit tonearm mechanism (hence the similarity). Whoever licenses the mechanism can spec up the case, graphics, logos etc. but they are essentially all the same unit under the skin, as are some of the cheap standalone turntables. The marketing brand doesn't make the electronics inside.
I saw that video, you can actually buy the tonearm and "platter" mechanism for 20 quid, roughly.
I love my Sony PS-HX500. Great sound. Only wish it had a higher platter but it doesn't cause any problems. I have it paired with a nice big Sony STR-DH190 receiver.
Frank, long-time viewer, first-time commenter. That black pumas record is one of my favorites!
Awesome. Thanks for the comment!
This looks more like an Amazon advertisement for products they want to move, then a real turntable rating.
These are probably the best record players for Amazon's profit margins, not the best for a consumer who would actually cares about using them.
Could be, for sure.
That Victrola doesn’t even have a magnetic cart! I would use that when I was a kid to listen to stories. Defiantly not the best!
For getting into the hobby that vinyl case records player is good for playing used vinyls just upgraded the Stylus to a diamond needle. I myself went this route then Upgraded to a AT-LP60x and also upgraded the stylus and I’m good to go now I play new records.
For the AT-LP60x.. You might want to upgrade the belt to a vivid belt.
I don’t feel I would go by this list. I am not the best gear head in the world but I trust the opinions of others over this list.
On that note, just unboxed a U-Turn Audio, Orbit Basic turntable for a stereo cabinet refurb project. Selected the U-Turn in part due to your review and the dimensions of the turntable. I ordered the cue lever and built in pre-amp as add on items. I have connected it to a Dayton audio amp and bookshelf speakers. I didn’t factor in the RCA jacks protruding from the back of the turntable so I will need to drill or cut some additional holes for access. As it will fit tight in the cabinet, I may not be able to use the dust cover. But the cabinet does have a lid. Will share photos on the Facebook page. Great show. Thanks. Sorry to ramble.
I've started with a ~80€ Dual Recordplayer from Amazon and it worked perfectly fine for about five years and now I have a ~250€ Audio Technica but to start the Hobby this cheap dual was perfect.
in Europe, Rega and Pro-Ject are hard to beat value for money turntables up to a certain level beyond 1000€ where the pool of choices gets much bigger. I know for many 2000-3000€ is impossible money but I am amazed by some of the entry level Mass Turntables from Acoustic Solid or Transrotor you can get for that money. They have the same perfect design and reliability like the reference models and are sometimes scary close to the top players. Even an entry level Linn is affordable for many and over time you can upgrade it to the max possible if you want to. Such a nice playing field with so many choices and even more opinions.
My father who just dug out of his loft a Sansui FR-3080 from 1975 ,asked me if i would like it so i said YEAH. All i had to do was change the belt and cartridge, and away i go!
One of my favorite video's of yours was when you couldn't get your oldest daughter to take the suitcase player you offered her......Your younger daughter accepted it with much thrill and excitement.....Big Fun!!!
I work for an apartment building and about 50 Crosley, Victrola and Audio Technica turntables are lurking behind those doors. The most records anyone of those apartments have is about 5.
These are not turntables that amazon think that are the best, these are the turntables that amazon for some reason need to sell, thanks for the video.
The only one on this list that I'd recommend is the Audio Technica.
I got the audio technica AT-LP120XUSB and I love it. I made it better by replacing the AT-VM95E needle with the AT-VMN95SH aka Shibata and wow. Night and day.
best course of action is to still buy any used technics u can find for around $100.
Any medium past Gramopohones can sound amazing if you buy quality and set it up well.
I almost bought one of these. But eventually I spied an early 1990s school record player (Califone 1030AV) that's way better. Mono, so what. Very loud with lots of bass. Can add a microphone or output everything to another speaker or amp. Made in USA but later ones were made in China. $49 including tax and shipping.
Here's a question though, one thing I sell a lot of is the old fashioned record CHANGERS... if you have a mess of 45s, you almost NEED one to make it tolerable. Are there no new offerings in record changers? I've found that you can equip them with nice lightweight Ortophon cartridges, even if they don't have a counterweight, and when properly set up, they are fun and don't damage the records at all... maybe a negligible amount of wear to the labels on your 45s, as that's what makes contact when they're dropped.
Imagine playing a One-Sep on that Victrola. It’s fine because it has upgraded sound.
Any recordplayer for $50 to get started is fine. The crosley/victrola suitcase players are all the same 1980's mechanism with the same lousy needle, ceramic cartridge made in the same factories in China. Are they good? No. Are they bad? At that $50 price point, they are servicable to figure out if you want to have vinyl in your music library. Don't spend more than $50 for this basic mechanism. It comes in many brand names and packages that can go as high as $200 depending on "features" that are silly like bluetooth receivers and slightly nicer cases. This channel makes excellent recommendations for a range of tables once you feel the need to climb out of the basement and get a better sound from your records. If you only have $100, buy the suitcase and $50 worth of vinyl. If you like it, start saving up because you are going to love it with a better table and gear.
1 by one high fidelity record player $179.00 amazon
For some just starting out with vinyl, I would recommend a starting level Audio-Technica turntable with a pair of powered book shelf speakers. I'm not a huge fan of the all in one variety of turntables.
I can imagine someone playing a bluetooth enabled turntable through a soundbar.
That is good advice Vince.
Yeah it almost seems like somebody paid some product placement fees to be on that list. I am far from being a turntable expert, but Ut seems like people would be better off to find an older well maintained used table… I picked up a Technics SL-QD33 for around $60 a couple of years ago. I know it’s not the top of the line model, but it’s a work horse.. hasn’t failed me yet. I think I’ve said this before, but I’ll say it again. It perplexes me why nobody is making a decent direct drive model, that’s fully automatic.
The biggest problem with these self contained "suitcase" style players is the factory set tracking weight is usually around 7 grams...which is effectively grinding the groove into trash....I know they provide a cheaper alternative for vinyl enthusiasts but they will destroy your
records...and at today's prices 😱. My main table is an ancient Technics SL1100...but I also have a Fluance RT81 (pretty good..not great) and an Audio Technica AT-140LP with an upgraded cartridge (ATVM95SH) and power cable (sounds pretty damn good)...I spend a lot of energy and time in keeping my record collection in good playing condition(cleaning, replacing inner sleeves with anti stat sleeves) etc...I can't imagine playing any of them on a cheap and poorly setup all in one solution. Just my 2 cents.
6:49 - Interesting choice of record on the player - released by *Supraphon* which was the state-owned record label in communist Czechoslovakia.
Hmmmm... interesting, indeed.
Due to budget reasons...I am very happy with my Flaunce RT81. Great quality, design & sound.
It is a good turntable for sure.
I don't understand you problem 33 RPM with the word Vinyl??? When I talk to people I always say Vinyl. Hey Tim how are you doing?..Vinyl. How much is this apple?..Vinyl. Do you know when the bus gets here?. Vinyl... And always.. I love vinyl man.. vinyl water pipe, vinyl house siding, vinyl window frames, vinyl gutters and downspouts, vinyl floor tile,. If it is made of Vinyl I LOVE IT ... What do you think of vinyl dude?. Vinyl. HA!! Like the vid.
Vinyl, gear and more...
This seems to me more of a list for best record players to get for your kid. Of course it’s not worded that way. I must stress like Frank said, I’m not judging anyone for having any of these. We all have different needs, budgets and desires. And as long as you’re enjoying the music, you’ve chosen well. That being said, the article doesn’t say that. I will say that the One By One blows away the record player I had when I was a little kid in the late 70’s.
I've got a decent system but I picked up a Crosley art deco all-in-one to use in a spare room. The tonearm was honestly the least bad thing about it. The platter motor was off-speed and unsteady, the amp had zero power with massive distortion, and all of the tuner presets would disappear if you unplugged it. I can't remember why the CD player sucked. It was cute junk that I gave to a niece pretty quickly
Why you gonna do your niece bad like that?
@@danieldaniels7571 Because it was still better than nothing.
What is it based on? Ratings from people who have been on Amazon and how many have rated the product on Amazon or what? . How many have rated, for example, in a turntable for 300 US $ without speakers. Is there such a thing even on the top list on Amazon. thus the top 20
I am not sure what it is based on. Could be ratings. It doesn't specific in the Amazon "article."
My Victrola pushes my Wilson Audio Alexx V with complete precision!!!
I got the elegant design one off amazon for £15 new
Snobery sure is a thing in the record player world
As I have said many times, there is no gate keeping here. Buy what you like. Enjoy it. Have fun. My point was: I don't understand is how some of these made the "best" record player list. That part is odd, IMHO.
Funny, I read album reviews online and there's SO MANY negative reviews because of skipping. Suitcase turntables don't track very well. Just saying. 😆
The vinyl scene was much better twenty years ago when the only people still buying vinyl were really into it and all used decent gear, and cheap junk record players were no longer being manufactured.
@@danieldaniels7571 Agreed. I always had a decent set up into the 90's. The only time I can remember a suitcase type record player in my house was when I was a kid playing children's 45s or hand me down Beatles, Herman's Hermit singles.
I’m very happy with my Fluance. I started with that Audio Technical and my cat ran over it when my dog was play chasing her and she destroyed it beyond repair so I upgraded to a Fluance which came with a Red stylus Orbotin or something like that and I upgraded the stylus to their blue model and it sounds great. Moved my system as well.
Yea, if a cat could break a turntable, that's pretty fragile! I just restored two SL-1200'S... that table would have broken the CAT...lol
I think the audio Technica lp 60 is a good entry level turntable. Brought it for my daughter's birthday last year.
Absolutely. It is also in the video I did on recommended record players.
@@Channel33RPM I know, I saw it, lol. Good choice.
Those Crowley / Victrolas don't last. Play records 2 or 3 hours a day, and the motor will die within 2 years max. They are good for starters, since maybe some will discover they were just jumping on a bandwagon, and don't really like the vinyl experience. It's good to have a low-cost way in to see if you're truly into it. For me personally, even if I wasn't into vinyl at all, I want to watch tv/ bluray and RUclips etc with a high quality beefy multi-channel system with good subs. In my case the turntable is not mutually exclusive from that, it's just part of that whole listening experience. I would hope having a nice turntable and receiver / speakers, would invite more people to hook those receivers up to everything. My outdoor cameras with audio, reel-to-reel, several turntables, 2 computers, bluray, mixer, studio etc all run through the receiver and tv. HDMI and ARC are the best things to ever happen to audio
This is the best way, but unfortunately that average consumer lacks the knowledge to either hook up or use such a system.
Frank have you noticed how Amazon doesn`t stock as many products as before (this includes vinyl records and cd`s) as well as decent top end stereo gear? for a couple of hundred dollars i would buy a vintage turntable such as a 1970`s Technics or a Pioneer as well as a vintage receiver as the newer equipment on the quality level is very poor in modern times sorry to say !! your thoughts on this Frank ????
Record player versus turntable. Record player is an all-in-one product. Turntable is a component of a system. I totally understand the market for a "record player" and I am very happy that market currently exists.
Its funny coz about 5 years I wanted to get my vinyl out of the attic and build up my HI-FI gear again. I started searching for a low end record player and was first directed to the Crosley record players. With a bit of reading you could tell they are a cheap product, and like you say we had those types of player back in the 70/80's when we first started playing records. Maybe Amazon are looking for that younger buyer with little experience but want to play vinyl. The write ups on the suitcase turntables make all them sound like top quality for very little money ????
"Carrying handle?" If you want portable, an .MP3 CD will hold eight-plus albums, and can even run on batteries. I still own all my LPs and big singles, but there's a lot I don't miss about those old days..
I think Amazon sometimes hires stoners to write the descriptions
I guess if a better TT can't be afforded, one of those little "groove grinders" in a siutcase style is OK, but don't expect to get "high mileage" out of your vinyl records.
I got one before knowing they were plastic. It skips and it plays slow. I abandoned it and use my technics sl-1300
It nearly makes me want to throw up what is today being sold under the former top brand name of Victrola. It's nothing like what Victrola used to stand for quality-wise in the 1910's and 20's. 🤢
For sure. Same with Crosley.
Hey. Don’t knock my Victrola. It’s about 4’ tall. It even has a handle to wind it and it plays 78’s. So there 😂🤣😅😁
Do you have Cartridge for 78 rpm . You should not have the same cartridge for 33 and 78 rpm
@@Andersljungberg it was built in 1910. No carts back then.
Haha yes... an entirely different beast, those were.
The AT all the way. Mostly because I can't imagine how awful those suitcase speakers sound. At least with the AT you can find an affordable receiver and speakers and get a much, much better sound
Get the crosly c6 at walmart for 90 basicaly same tt as the onebyone less the speakers
i have the “runner up” ATLP60X… pretty good table, sounds good and is much better than the suitcase ones. i had the first one, in multiple variations. it is absolutely NOT a “winner”. i had multiple, and they all died within months. platter wouldnt spin. also, about the speakers on the same surface… some people have limited spaces, and dont have a choice. i have a small space, and my speakers are on top of my tape deck. but, i dont notice any sound difference, so it should be alright. i dont tend to play music super loud, either🤷🏻♂️
I just don't understand why ppl would spend so much on record but choose to save money by buying a cheap player, which would eventually affect the sound quality of the records...