The Parf Guide system sat in a box for almost two years because I was intimidated by it. I couldn’t believe how simple it was. The accuracy is almost astonishing to me. I know that’s what it’s designed for, but I was just blown away by it. Love this system. Not much need for angles but I don’t want to be caught without having the option haha. I love all my ujk stuff
It's amazing how far woodworking tools have come since I started with some very crude tools half a lifetime ago. Another excellent tool to work with my workstation created with Peter's system. Simple, inexpensive and accurate is a hard combination to deliver. Thanks Peter.
One more point to add. It's made with QUALITY in mind. There's nothing chintzy about the kit. I know it's going to last me decades if not more. It's kind of nice knowing you're not buying some cheap knockoff. I'm just a happy customer.
Hi Peter, Good demonstration on the Parf Protractor. A brilliant and accurate set up this is a good system. As always a great video, catch you soon take care
I’m glad UJK and yourself changed your minds. I asked you about something like this a couple years ago on FOG, and was told UJK didn’t think it was a marketable product. Outstanding.
Yes, I remember that. At that time I had produced a vernier scale protractor prototype but it was just not accurate enough. The idea was shelved for about a year and then we started looking at new ways of doing it. The criteria was 0.5 degree resolution but better than 0.1 degree precision. This new approach works brilliantly and I will demonstrate this in my next video. Cheers. Peter
@NewBritWorkshop You managed to come up with an innovative solution. The traditional way did not work for you, so you approached it from a different angle (unintentional pun).
I can’t envisage boring more holes over an existing MFT style 96mm grid. More practical would be to make an ancillary board with the minimum necessary 20mm holes. Then lock the ancillary down on top of the “mother” board with a pair of TSO Power-Loc connector dogs. That way you would build up a library of ancillary boards with various angles made for successive projects, but leaving the original geometry of the MFT intact.
Hiya I have been making 5 sided jewellery boxes by hand and I can say from experience that getting the joints on the lid correct is not easy I did mine with a homemade jig and a smoothing plane frustrating at first but got it going well now thanks to a version of a Paul sellers planing jig👍
Hi Peter, This looks very interesting. A very clever solution to a tricky problem. I might use this in my new workshop in Midhurst and avoid having to buy another Kapex. I think that this would allow me to do any cuts I need on the bench or cutting station although a little slower than the Kapex but once set up probably not and once I have set up the two or three max angles I might need very quick to use. Mike
Wow that's great Peter. I think this would be excellent for making segments for segmented woodturning blanks. It may have to go on My Christmas list. I'm sure there's loads of swift and sure jokes I could make about cutting on a track saw cutting station set out using the Parf system.
Peter, meus parabéns por mais uma ferramenta de altíssima precisão e qualidade de construção também, certamente vc se tornou um grande engenheiro criando dispositivos de altíssima qualidade de construção, isso é louvável ❤ muito obrigado por toda explicação, ferramenta maravilhosa, se cuida amigo querido ❤
Hallo Peter schön dich wieder zu sehen. Danke für dei informatives Video. Bis zum nächsten Video. Liebe Grüße aus meiner Meenzer Bastel Bude und bleib mit deinen Liebsten gesund.
Hi Barry, Sorry about the delay on the Axminster web site - a minor technical issue. I am making a video this week which will demonstrate its astonishing accuracy. Cheers. Peter
Peter, this is quite an interesting product, I'm very impressed. Is there a way that it can be used without the need to drill holes for every new angle needed, perhaps using the protractor bar as a fence?
Hi Roy, Not really as the angle required is between the horizontal row of holes and the Parf ruler and not with the protractor. I understand your point and will give it some thought. Cheers. Peter
The point about a mitre saw is worth considering. Many mitre saws are limited to 45 degrees either way with a resolution barely able to achieve a half degree if you’ve got good eyesight. (Festool KSs have a vernier device which is helpful). To cut angles sharper than 45 you would normally make a 45 spacer. I.E. to get 30 degrees, use the spacer & set the mitre to 15 degrees. With this protractor you can make a 44.5 or 45.5 spacer to cut sharp mitres at half degree increments! Useful to some folks?
When will it be available? And where? Will it be available as a kit or can just the protractor ruler be purchased for those that already own the parf guide system?
It should be going up on the Axminster web site later today. They ship world wide if your local Axminster partner or stockist has yet to receive orders. Cheers. Peter
@ I believe I saw you at the Molly Pitcher service area just off Interstate 95. I saw the name, Peter Millard, written on the back collar of a gentleman’s shirt. By the time it came together in my mind you were off. Does any of that ring a bell?
I think there could be a risk of errors creeping in with the smaller angles. The rulers could distort if you are not careful. I will certainly buy one once they are available.
Hi David, Just wait until you see the next video - 10 pieces with 20 cut faces and even the slightest error will show as it will be magnified 20 times. Peter
Good day. I'm from South Africa now living in peaceful Uruguay. Just found your channel and this was the first video that I saw. I'm a little lost but would like to know more about this system. Where can I find more info please ?
@@matstaraldsvik2363 it appears that it's just for the mkii... as per the axminster website: "the ultimate addition to the UJK Parf MKII Guide System"... a shame! I wish that they offered some type of exchange for the mkii
I am afraid not as the protractor has to join one of the Parf rulers with a 6 mm diameter joining piece. Any work-around would be risky and certainly affect accuracy. Peter
Could Axminster not create a version to work with the mark 1, or perhaps an adapter piece? It's a great shame that people who first bought into the system lose out to future new products for the system because they decided to alter it!
Unfortunately, the Mk1 has a serious flaw with the 3mm ruler. Mine has been meticulously maintained & carefully used, but eventually a hole will get damaged & 'Voila!' a Mk2 will be ordered. Still, a very impressive system.
Hi Peter - this looks similar to what I think was called line of chords? Is that right? Well done for getting this out - I’m sure it’s massively more accurate than a protractor based saw guide even after it’s been “calibrated”
Hi Mick Yes, I tried all sorts of traditional protractors and nothing came close to this and even my Kapex cannot get anywhere near the precision that this gives. Cheers.. Peter
Help yourself a little and pop a link to the product in your description. I'm still gonna go find it. And thank you for developing this. It is a great addition.
In the final demo, to get a one degree offset, as I understand Peter’s description, the dog holes that are offset are over laying the line of orthogonal holes. If I’m correct drilling out any of these new hole would cut into the existing holes! Surely that is not going to work.
I know that we normally see a protractor as a curved object and so you are right but what else could we choose - Parf Angle Ruler? Many thanks. Cheers. Peter
This looks like enormous amounts of faf (probably expense too). Your tiny protractor insuficient? Common sense says just get a bigger one thats up to the the task. Something like a Trend DAR/500 (little over £30 on ebay) will give a half meter straight edge at any angle (instantly) - which would be fine most needs. Odd occasion you need more, just use it in conjunction with whatever long staight edge is lying around the shop (tracksaw guide etc). Probably I'm being dumb & missing some enormous advantage to the system you are demonstrating....
Agreed. I have an MFT with the protractor and never use it I just mark a line and lay the track down. I will admit I am not a commercial woodworker, if I was making large batches of something and needed to repeat an angle many times this might be the perfect item. Same point, maybe I'm being dumb and missing something.
Hi Dave, Just wait until you see how accurate it is. I am working on a video of a pentagon and then a decagon ! The latter will be 10 pieces or 20 cut faces to come together. The slightest error will be magnified 20 times. Peter
Dave, with respect I think you have missed the point. Yes, the Trend has the resolution but how do you lock that to a guide rail?Woodpeckers version is about £400, while this is only £60 assuming you have the Parf rule already, which you will have if you’ve made your own MFT.
Being off by 1 deg (sometimes 1/2 deg) on a miter joint will leave a gap. Can it be fixed with sawdust and glue? Sure. But what if you have to make a hexagon? Every cut gets compounded error. In theory, even a cheap protractor will show you the angle you need. The problem is that you CANNOT line up your tracksaw EXACTLY to that angle. This system is so accurate that you can just put the holes in, butt the track to the dogs and make your cut. It makes making complicated angles brain dead simply. When you make your hexagon wine rack, you'll appreciate the simplicity and accuracy of this system.
Well stated. Some critics just don’t get the point about repeated accuracy that this relatively inexpensive tool offers to those who have the mind to explore and exploit its potential.
Next time I'm looking for accuracy to 0.05' I'll be sure to go to Axminster to pay, no doubt, several hundreds of £'s for the kit, spend many days making my 'track saw station' and in the meantime watch this video again at least ten times (with the Listerine adverts at the exact moment you drill your 3mm holes) to ensure I'm up to speed with and can understand the technique. Or maybe I won't 😂😂
@@nickdawson9270 I was being humorous, but I do think for most it's complicated and unnecessary, and a quite expensive, time consuming way to achieve an unwanted degree of accuracy. But I also know a lot of people wouldn't agree, so that's fine too.
@@David-ee9zg I guessed you were but lets be serious for just a moment and stop knocking the product. It's not expensive at £60 compared with a Woodpecker Adjustable Track Square at £400. It's not time consuming to set up if you have a number of pieces to make. For the sake of argument suppose you were making a spiral stairway with wooden treads, would this tool at £60 be useful? How does that compare with the cost of a track saw, the guide rail and the dust extractor that you already have? I am guessing you use a track saw otherwise you would not be watching Peter's videos.
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The Parf Guide system sat in a box for almost two years because I was intimidated by it. I couldn’t believe how simple it was. The accuracy is almost astonishing to me. I know that’s what it’s designed for, but I was just blown away by it. Love this system. Not much need for angles but I don’t want to be caught without having the option haha. I love all my ujk stuff
Mate, mine is still in the packing tube. I'm not sure if I want to get into woodworking again
@@66meikou don’t give it up!
Great. Cheers. Peter
It's amazing how far woodworking tools have come since I started with some very crude tools half a lifetime ago. Another excellent tool to work with my workstation created with Peter's system. Simple, inexpensive and accurate is a hard combination to deliver. Thanks Peter.
Hi Todd, Thank you so much. Cheers. Peter
One more point to add. It's made with QUALITY in mind. There's nothing chintzy about the kit. I know it's going to last me decades if not more. It's kind of nice knowing you're not buying some cheap knockoff. I'm just a happy customer.
That level of accuracy is impressive! A worthy addition to the Parf guide system. Good to see your ideas evolve Peter, and well done Axminster too.
Many thanks! Yes, it is amazing. Cheers. Peter
Hi Peter, Good demonstration on the Parf Protractor. A brilliant and accurate set up this is a good system. As always a great video, catch you soon take care
Hi Shaun, Many thanks for this. Cheers. Peter
I’m glad UJK and yourself changed your minds. I asked you about something like this a couple years ago on FOG, and was told UJK didn’t think it was a marketable product. Outstanding.
Yes, I remember that. At that time I had produced a vernier scale protractor prototype but it was just not accurate enough. The idea was shelved for about a year and then we started looking at new ways of doing it. The criteria was 0.5 degree resolution but better than 0.1 degree precision. This new approach works brilliantly and I will demonstrate this in my next video. Cheers. Peter
@@NewBritWorkshop I look forward to that, Peter.
@NewBritWorkshop You managed to come up with an innovative solution. The traditional way did not work for you, so you approached it from a different angle (unintentional pun).
Thanks Peter, something I have never seen before. Very interesting.
Many thanks!
I can’t envisage boring more holes over an existing MFT style 96mm grid. More practical would be to make an ancillary board with the minimum necessary 20mm holes. Then lock the ancillary down on top of the “mother” board with a pair of TSO Power-Loc connector dogs. That way you would build up a library of ancillary boards with various angles made for successive projects, but leaving the original geometry of the MFT intact.
Hiya I have been making 5 sided jewellery boxes by hand and I can say from experience that getting the joints on the lid correct is not easy I did mine with a homemade jig and a smoothing plane frustrating at first but got it going well now thanks to a version of a Paul sellers planing jig👍
Brilliant, great video as usual. Thank you Peter
Many thanks
Very nicely done, Peter!
Hi Peter and impressive and very instructive video. A very interesting tool. Thank you.
Hi Peter, This looks very interesting. A very clever solution to a tricky problem. I might use this in my new workshop in Midhurst and avoid having to buy another Kapex. I think that this would allow me to do any cuts I need on the bench or cutting station although a little slower than the Kapex but once set up probably not and once I have set up the two or three max angles I might need very quick to use. Mike
Hi Mike, It really works well and far better than I had expected. Cheers. Peter
Love the parf products. I really hope to pick up the all in one kit with systainer soon.
Good luck!!
Wow that's great Peter. I think this would be excellent for making segments for segmented woodturning blanks. It may have to go on My Christmas list. I'm sure there's loads of swift and sure jokes I could make about cutting on a track saw cutting station set out using the Parf system.
Hi Ian, Yes, several woodturners have asked for this and I hope to demonstrate the accuracy in my next video. Cheers. Peter
@@NewBritWorkshopI have one for Christmas looking forward to giving it a go
Peter, meus parabéns por mais uma ferramenta de altíssima precisão e qualidade de construção também, certamente vc se tornou um grande engenheiro criando dispositivos de altíssima qualidade de construção, isso é louvável ❤ muito obrigado por toda explicação, ferramenta maravilhosa, se cuida amigo querido ❤
Many thanks Marcos. Cheers. Peter
Olá Peter, fique bem com sua família, saude pra vc também 🙏@@NewBritWorkshop
Thank you!
Hallo Peter schön dich wieder zu sehen. Danke für dei informatives Video.
Bis zum nächsten Video.
Liebe Grüße aus meiner Meenzer Bastel Bude und bleib mit deinen Liebsten gesund.
Many thanks and stay safe. Cheers. Peter
@@NewBritWorkshop Thank you and haveca beautiful Week.
Nice one Peter 👍🏼
Shame it's not available on its own though as I already own the revision dogs and 3mm pins 🤷🏼♂️...
Solves my next top construction. As yet not listed online. Yes, cutting the pie into half a degree is fun, doable, but not repeatable with such ease.👏
Hi Barry, Sorry about the delay on the Axminster web site - a minor technical issue. I am making a video this week which will demonstrate its astonishing accuracy. Cheers. Peter
Peter, this is quite an interesting product, I'm very impressed. Is there a way that it can be used without the need to drill holes for every new angle needed, perhaps using the protractor bar as a fence?
Hi Roy, Not really as the angle required is between the horizontal row of holes and the Parf ruler and not with the protractor. I understand your point and will give it some thought. Cheers. Peter
The point about a mitre saw is worth considering. Many mitre saws are limited to 45 degrees either way with a resolution barely able to achieve a half degree if you’ve got good eyesight. (Festool KSs have a vernier device which is helpful).
To cut angles sharper than 45 you would normally make a 45 spacer. I.E. to get 30 degrees, use the spacer & set the mitre to 15 degrees. With this protractor you can make a 44.5 or 45.5 spacer to cut sharp mitres at half degree increments! Useful to some folks?
Thanks Nick. You are right. Cheers. Peter
When will it be available? And where? Will it be available as a kit or can just the protractor ruler be purchased for those that already own the parf guide system?
It should be going up on the Axminster web site later today. They ship world wide if your local Axminster partner or stockist has yet to receive orders. Cheers. Peter
Hey there. Did I see you at a rest stop in New Jersey, USA on November 10th?
Hi Darren, Was that near Red Bank, perhaps the Molly Pitcher Inn?
That sounds about right. There is the Molly Pitcher service area just off I 95.
@ I believe I saw you at the Molly Pitcher service area just off Interstate 95. I saw the name, Peter Millard, written on the back collar of a gentleman’s shirt. By the time it came together in my mind you were off. Does any of that ring a bell?
Hi Darren, I was pulling your leg - I have not been to Red Bank for 42 years ! Sorry.
@@NewBritWorkshop That is funny. I appreciate the humor and response.
I think there could be a risk of errors creeping in with the smaller angles. The rulers could distort if you are not careful. I will certainly buy one once they are available.
Hi David, Just wait until you see the next video - 10 pieces with 20 cut faces and even the slightest error will show as it will be magnified 20 times. Peter
Good day. I'm from South Africa now living in peaceful Uruguay. Just found your channel and this was the first video that I saw. I'm a little lost but would like to know more about this system. Where can I find more info please ?
Just put "Parf Guide System" into your search engine and also visit the Axminster Tools web site. Oh, and look through my videos ! Peter
Wonderful development, as always, Peter, well done. Will this work with both mkI and mkII parf guide systems? Best wishes Evangelos
I have the mk1 as well (a brilliant system, btw), and was about to ask the same question.. :)
@@matstaraldsvik2363 it appears that it's just for the mkii... as per the axminster website: "the ultimate addition to the UJK Parf MKII Guide System"... a shame! I wish that they offered some type of exchange for the mkii
Peter, for those of us with the classic PGS Mk 1, would this work?
I am afraid not as the protractor has to join one of the Parf rulers with a 6 mm diameter joining piece. Any work-around would be risky and certainly affect accuracy. Peter
Could Axminster not create a version to work with the mark 1, or perhaps an adapter piece? It's a great shame that people who first bought into the system lose out to future new products for the system because they decided to alter it!
Unfortunately, the Mk1 has a serious flaw with the 3mm ruler. Mine has been meticulously maintained & carefully used, but eventually a hole will get damaged & 'Voila!' a Mk2 will be ordered. Still, a very impressive system.
Hi Peter - this looks similar to what I think was called line of chords? Is that right? Well done for getting this out - I’m sure it’s massively more accurate than a protractor based saw guide even after it’s been “calibrated”
Hi Mick Yes, I tried all sorts of traditional protractors and nothing came close to this and even my Kapex cannot get anywhere near the precision that this gives. Cheers.. Peter
Will it be available in the US?
TSO usually stocks UJK components.
@@robertpearce8394 That's what I'm hoping for! Don't think they carry ALL tools though
Help yourself a little and pop a link to the product in your description. I'm still gonna go find it. And thank you for developing this. It is a great addition.
Hi Gary, I will when it finally gets up on the Axminster web site ! Cheers. Peter
@@NewBritWorkshop Thank you sir. 👍
Stock ref 112023 .... about £60, and free delivery
Purchased. Awaiting arrival. Much appreciated.
Wanneer is het te koop, ik ben een groot fan van parf
It should be on the Axminster web site later today. Peter
Is the tso triangle best to use mtr-18
???
Axminster sells it
In the final demo, to get a one degree offset, as I understand Peter’s description, the dog holes that are offset are over laying the line of orthogonal holes. If I’m correct drilling out any of these new hole would cut into the existing holes! Surely that is not going to work.
Hi Nick, You do not need to drill out every hole - I did say this in the video. Peter
Nooice!
have you got a price
Hi Jim, Not yet as it is not up on the Axminster web site yet.. Cheers. Peter
Well thought out accessory for the Parf Guide, but it's not a protractor.
I know that we normally see a protractor as a curved object and so you are right but what else could we choose - Parf Angle Ruler? Many thanks. Cheers. Peter
@@NewBritWorkshop Angle Stick -- It's a stick similar to the 2 sticks included with the system, but it's used for angles.
This might be a little easier to understand if you draw out the theory behind it before demonstrating it.
This looks like enormous amounts of faf (probably expense too). Your tiny protractor insuficient? Common sense says just get a bigger one thats up to the the task. Something like a Trend DAR/500 (little over £30 on ebay) will give a half meter straight edge at any angle (instantly) - which would be fine most needs. Odd occasion you need more, just use it in conjunction with whatever long staight edge is lying around the shop (tracksaw guide etc). Probably I'm being dumb & missing some enormous advantage to the system you are demonstrating....
Agreed. I have an MFT with the protractor and never use it I just mark a line and lay the track down. I will admit I am not a commercial woodworker, if I was making large batches of something and needed to repeat an angle many times this might be the perfect item. Same point, maybe I'm being dumb and missing something.
Hi Dave, Just wait until you see how accurate it is. I am working on a video of a pentagon and then a decagon ! The latter will be 10 pieces or 20 cut faces to come together. The slightest error will be magnified 20 times. Peter
Dave, with respect I think you have missed the point. Yes, the Trend has the resolution but how do you lock that to a guide rail?Woodpeckers version is about £400, while this is only £60 assuming you have the Parf rule already, which you will have if you’ve made your own MFT.
Being off by 1 deg (sometimes 1/2 deg) on a miter joint will leave a gap. Can it be fixed with sawdust and glue? Sure. But what if you have to make a hexagon? Every cut gets compounded error. In theory, even a cheap protractor will show you the angle you need. The problem is that you CANNOT line up your tracksaw EXACTLY to that angle. This system is so accurate that you can just put the holes in, butt the track to the dogs and make your cut. It makes making complicated angles brain dead simply. When you make your hexagon wine rack, you'll appreciate the simplicity and accuracy of this system.
Well stated. Some critics just don’t get the point about repeated accuracy that this relatively inexpensive tool offers to those who have the mind to explore and exploit its potential.
Ya. No.
Next time I'm looking for accuracy to 0.05' I'll be sure to go to Axminster to pay, no doubt, several hundreds of £'s for the kit, spend many days making my 'track saw station' and in the meantime watch this video again at least ten times (with the Listerine adverts at the exact moment you drill your 3mm holes) to ensure I'm up to speed with and can understand the technique. Or maybe I won't 😂😂
Maybe you’re right. What’s the point of jigs that make woodworking easier?
@@nickdawson9270 I was being humorous, but I do think for most it's complicated and unnecessary, and a quite expensive, time consuming way to achieve an unwanted degree of accuracy. But I also know a lot of people wouldn't agree, so that's fine too.
@@David-ee9zg I guessed you were but lets be serious for just a moment and stop knocking the product. It's not expensive at £60 compared with a Woodpecker Adjustable Track Square at £400. It's not time consuming to set up if you have a number of pieces to make. For the sake of argument suppose you were making a spiral stairway with wooden treads, would this tool at £60 be useful? How does that compare with the cost of a track saw, the guide rail and the dust extractor that you already have? I am guessing you use a track saw otherwise you would not be watching Peter's videos.
@@nickdawson9270 I did say it was fine by me if others don't agree.