Wow thanks for putting this up online, great to practice with whilst away from home. It’s also weird to hear the ritual with the midi perfect precision, having played along with the CD with Alan Dawson for so long.
@@MichaelDSwanson Hi Michael, I came back to play along with this again today! I studied with John Ramsay a few years back and noticed a couple of things when running through, hope this is helpful? If not please feel free to delete this post. Thanks again for sharing this. bars 227 and 231 there were a couple of typos in the book and John wrote into my book three-stroke ruff paradiddlediddle (instead of paradiddle), and the second he called four-stroke ruff paradiddlediddle bar 371 dada flam - the sticking I learned from John and written in the book is a bit different from what you have here - he taught it as R R rL L L lR instead of R R lR L L rL
@@251jazzy Thank you for coming back and adding those details! I'm jealous that you were able to study with John. That had to be an amazing experience. I'll capture your notes and also leave them here for others to find. Unfortunately, I don't think that RUclips allows me to replace any of the videos, so there's no easy way to edit these versions.
@@MichaelDSwanson yeah those lessons were great! If it's not too much trouble, would you be able to upload one at 190bpm please?! I'm getting back to the ritual after a big break and finding some bits too fast at 200, but too slow at 180! Don't worry at all if that's a hassle, just thought I'd ask. Cheers, Caroline
Unfortunately, it would be a reasonable amount of work to reassemble the pieces that made these videos, since I didn't keep all of the high quality sources in an easy-to-reuse format. However, perhaps you can use RUclips playback speed feature to bump up from another speed? Not sure it it'll land exactly where you want, but I've heard that other players have done this. Good luck!
Oh my goodness! Absolutely jaw dropping Michael. Thanks for posting these. I enjoyed the 100bpm just as much too. Gorgeous articulation. You mention the Superior Drummer 3 which sounds great but what is the surface you're performing these on, and what sticks do you prefer? Thanks much. Back to the shed for me.
Thanks, Sinclair. I didn't perform this at all...it was entered (with a standard QWERTY keyboard) into Sibelius from Avid and exported as MIDI. So, it was played electronically. I did it this way to make sure that the timing was accurate.
Thanks for posting this and the slower version. One comment on this.... The Double Drag is not being played properly. You are phrasing it as an eighth and 2 sixteenths.
Thanks, Andy. I was going to direct you to a prior discussion about this phrase that I had, but I can't seem to locate it. Fortunately, I did find the image I used, which shows Alan Dawson's original recording (included on the CD with the book) of this phrase next to the one in this lesson: www.dropbox.com/s/v6ewpnji5f8w91j/Alan%20Dawson%20and%20Sibelius%20Double%20Drag%20Comparison%20on%202022-04-04.png?dl=0. Also, for what it's worth, the timing here is based on Sibelius' interpretation of the transcribed notation and not something that I influenced in any way.
@@MichaelDSwanson I was studying with Alan at Berklee in 1973, 74 and 75 when he was putting the ritual together. I have to ask... why didn't you record yourself playing this instead of have the Sibelius program do it? There are several other things like the foot pattern not syncing and the hi hat not being played most of the time. But you described it perfectly by saying that it's a "Sibelius interpretation".
Maybe you didn't see it in the description, but while I was learning this exercise, I needed an easier way to play along. So, I used Sibelius to ensure that the timing was as-transcribed (though very robotic). I also needed to slow it down. To validate some of the phrases, I then compared what Sibelius "played" to what was included on the audio CDs, and that's where the matching waveforms above came from. Also, for what it's worth, the ostinato does play throughout the entire piece...but some of the sounds seem to get "buried" by other parts.
Hi, my friend.belissimo work of transcription of the exercise. Would you mind sending the siberius file for me to open on my program? thanks again. hugs from brazil!!
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Wow thanks for putting this up online, great to practice with whilst away from home. It’s also weird to hear the ritual with the midi perfect precision, having played along with the CD with Alan Dawson for so long.
You're very welcome! I'm glad that you're finding it to be useful.
@@MichaelDSwanson Hi Michael, I came back to play along with this again today! I studied with John Ramsay a few years back and noticed a couple of things when running through, hope this is helpful? If not please feel free to delete this post. Thanks again for sharing this.
bars 227 and 231 there were a couple of typos in the book and John wrote into my book three-stroke ruff paradiddlediddle (instead of paradiddle), and the second he called four-stroke ruff paradiddlediddle
bar 371 dada flam - the sticking I learned from John and written in the book is a bit different from what you have here - he taught it as R R rL L L lR instead of R R lR L L rL
@@251jazzy Thank you for coming back and adding those details! I'm jealous that you were able to study with John. That had to be an amazing experience.
I'll capture your notes and also leave them here for others to find. Unfortunately, I don't think that RUclips allows me to replace any of the videos, so there's no easy way to edit these versions.
@@MichaelDSwanson yeah those lessons were great! If it's not too much trouble, would you be able to upload one at 190bpm please?! I'm getting back to the ritual after a big break and finding some bits too fast at 200, but too slow at 180! Don't worry at all if that's a hassle, just thought I'd ask. Cheers, Caroline
Unfortunately, it would be a reasonable amount of work to reassemble the pieces that made these videos, since I didn't keep all of the high quality sources in an easy-to-reuse format. However, perhaps you can use RUclips playback speed feature to bump up from another speed? Not sure it it'll land exactly where you want, but I've heard that other players have done this. Good luck!
Oh my goodness! Absolutely jaw dropping Michael. Thanks for posting these. I enjoyed the 100bpm just as much too. Gorgeous articulation. You mention the Superior Drummer 3 which sounds great but what is the surface you're performing these on, and what sticks do you prefer? Thanks much. Back to the shed for me.
Thanks, Sinclair. I didn't perform this at all...it was entered (with a standard QWERTY keyboard) into Sibelius from Avid and exported as MIDI. So, it was played electronically. I did it this way to make sure that the timing was accurate.
Oh...I see...ok then, pardon my naiveté. Your computer played the shit out it. Something for us mortals to shoot for.
@@SinclairLott Can anyone play this?
Of course, many snare drummers. Not with the same computer enhanced accuracy perhaps but it's very doable. That's what makes it sure a great exercise.
@@SinclairLott I'm quite the beginner and your optimism is encouraging. These tempos seem impossible.
I thought it all sounded a bit inhuman. I thought you were one of those marching dudes with crazy chops. Turns out it was as HAL playing it! 😁
Thanks for posting this and the slower version. One comment on this.... The Double Drag is not being played properly. You are phrasing it as an eighth and 2 sixteenths.
Thanks, Andy. I was going to direct you to a prior discussion about this phrase that I had, but I can't seem to locate it. Fortunately, I did find the image I used, which shows Alan Dawson's original recording (included on the CD with the book) of this phrase next to the one in this lesson: www.dropbox.com/s/v6ewpnji5f8w91j/Alan%20Dawson%20and%20Sibelius%20Double%20Drag%20Comparison%20on%202022-04-04.png?dl=0. Also, for what it's worth, the timing here is based on Sibelius' interpretation of the transcribed notation and not something that I influenced in any way.
@@MichaelDSwanson I was studying with Alan at Berklee in 1973, 74 and 75 when he was putting the ritual together. I have to ask... why didn't you record yourself playing this instead of have the Sibelius program do it? There are several other things like the foot pattern not syncing and the hi hat not being played most of the time. But you described it perfectly by saying that it's a "Sibelius interpretation".
Maybe you didn't see it in the description, but while I was learning this exercise, I needed an easier way to play along. So, I used Sibelius to ensure that the timing was as-transcribed (though very robotic). I also needed to slow it down. To validate some of the phrases, I then compared what Sibelius "played" to what was included on the audio CDs, and that's where the matching waveforms above came from. Also, for what it's worth, the ostinato does play throughout the entire piece...but some of the sounds seem to get "buried" by other parts.
@@MichaelDSwanson fair enough 🙂
Hi, my friend.belissimo work of transcription of the exercise. Would you mind sending the siberius file for me to open on my program?
thanks again. hugs from brazil!!
I'm able to play the first 1/2 of the 160 bpm version. But, this is too fast for me.
I agree. This one is definitely fast!