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  • Опубликовано: 21 май 2024
  • Learn about the Tercio Formation in medieval warfare in this quick video! Discover the tactical military strategy used in battles long ago. #shorts #fyp #medieval #tercioformation

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  • @UrbanCohort
    @UrbanCohort 28 дней назад +1834

    Tercio Formation: 😊
    Constantly Evolving Gunpowder Technology: 🤩

    • @Dicka899
      @Dicka899 23 дня назад +18

      More like the invention of the socket bayonet

    • @matiascarrpizza
      @matiascarrpizza 22 дня назад +3

      666 like

    • @dudimenthegreat9886
      @dudimenthegreat9886 22 дня назад +3

      The Chad Dutch and Swedish models vs the Virgin Tercio

    • @sometingwong2733
      @sometingwong2733 21 день назад +4

      Gun power:😊
      Nuclear bomb: 😂

    • @user-yd9rm4ds8c
      @user-yd9rm4ds8c 21 день назад +6

      Ironically enough, it was through gunpowder tech development that Tercios came to be.
      The European battlefield of the time was, off course, dominated by the heavy cavalry and the swiss style pikemen. Then, at Pavia and Bicoca battles respectively, arquebusiers truly revealed the potential they held.
      Nagashino battle is significant of this change as well.

  • @turfymarlin1143
    @turfymarlin1143 26 дней назад +2000

    Arqubussy

  • @ThomasWeaver1992
    @ThomasWeaver1992 28 дней назад +1132

    For those wondering why it went extinct:
    *bayonets made your gunmen able to fight as a melee unit, meaning you didn't have to divide the two into separate groups and could maximize power at all ranges
    *armies that deployed large quantities of cannons would destroy dense formations from a safe distance
    *swordsmen are expensive to equip
    *the evolution of the arquebus and early muskets made them gradually more effective, meaning that ranged firepower could be more devastating if firepower is concentrated on the front line instead of surrounding this square.

    • @oscaranderson5719
      @oscaranderson5719 27 дней назад +68

      should also be noted the bayonet didn’t instantly make pikemen disappear, but slowly phased out as muskets became more effective. sergeants would even carry a halberd or pike as a symbol of rank for a time after.

    • @BicornioSPA
      @BicornioSPA 24 дня назад +8

      Was the cannons, nothing more.

    • @ThomasWeaver1992
      @ThomasWeaver1992 24 дня назад +29

      @@BicornioSPA cannons were very limited during The Renaissance, and you can pin down cannons using your own cannons. Also, there are many types of battlefields, and cannons aren't useful in certain terrains; muddy hilly forests are really common in Europe.

    • @NLTops
      @NLTops 24 дня назад +24

      Disclaimer: Not trying to correct you, merely to add more information and detail.
      Plug bayonets were the first iteration and did not make "melee units" redundant. They were at most a hot-fix to alleviate the obvious weakness of musketeers when forced into melee, particularly facing cavalry. But as the name suggests, the bayonet had to be plugged into the barrel, which both took time and prevented the rifle from being shot once plugged. They had to be firmly lodged in there or it would just fall out during combat, so it was quite difficult to remove from the barrel.
      Ring bayonets allowed for more flexible use of musketeers (switching between melee and ranged combat seamlessly and not needing time to prepare), which made them far more capable at resisting cavalry charges. Imagine charging at someone on your horse with a saber, when that someone is holding a short spear that may or may not be ready to fire a deadly projectile straight at you.
      But it still did not make melee troops defunct. It just made the musketeer the most common unit on the battlefield.
      Other advancements also played a great part in the transition away from melee weapons Such as musket rifling, which increased accuracy and projectile velocity and made approaching a line formation as a melee infantry unit a very bad idea. But also new firing mechanisms that made shooting less finicky and less susceptible to weather.
      It was only when all of the firearms' weaknesses had been adequately mitigated that purely melee infantry effectively disappeared from the battlefield. And even then, only for the countries that knew how to make firearms, or were wealthy enough to buy them.

    • @cia5649
      @cia5649 24 дня назад +6

      The Swedish army effectively used the bayonet as such with their caroleans drilled into a more melee focused attack

  • @danielpetersen7856
    @danielpetersen7856 24 дня назад +181

    Born too late to join a Spanish Tercio
    Born too early for when pikes become popular again after the nuclear apocalypse (they always come back)
    Born just in time to employ this formation in Total War

    • @KingsandGenerals
      @KingsandGenerals  24 дня назад +22

      Best option

    • @Chispy204
      @Chispy204 2 дня назад +3

      De hecho ,los tercios siguen siendo una unidad del ejército español, obviamente no es lo mismo ,pero su legado e historia siguen vivas en La Legión🧐

    • @alperenelbasan7909
      @alperenelbasan7909 14 часов назад

      pikes... pikes never changes

  • @ernstschmidt4725
    @ernstschmidt4725 25 дней назад +263

    this is an VERY early tercio, since there are way too many swordsmen. they were gradually phased out and eventually pikemen were phased out too but later when bayonets became common.

    • @anthonyklanke1397
      @anthonyklanke1397 13 дней назад +1

      K ya I was wondering about that 🤔 this formation looked very different from what I've read in books

    • @user-xf2qt5il7n
      @user-xf2qt5il7n 7 дней назад

      I can't see how pikemen can effectively cover the arquebus from cavalry?

    • @doctaflo
      @doctaflo 3 дня назад

      what are the swordsmen even for?

    • @ernstschmidt4725
      @ernstschmidt4725 3 дня назад

      @@doctaflo to get under the pikes and try to break the enemy square through melee. the swiss used halberdiers instead of sword and buckle men.
      .
      at the end trying to break square through melee was a bloody and often fruitless affair. muskets and artillery proved superior breaking squares.

    • @doctaflo
      @doctaflo 3 дня назад

      @@ernstschmidt4725 interesting, thanks! i always thought for the most part spears of any type beat swords of any type. like maybe if you’re super-skilled, bypassing the striking distance of an opponent with greater range is viable, but generally the combatant with the greater reach has an advantage. in my mind, i’d rather give all the swordsmen pikes and just have that many more pikemen to throw at an enemy formation… but then i don’t know where i got that idea! you sound like you have a better idea of what you’re talking about than i do!

  • @CaribbeanHistory
    @CaribbeanHistory 28 дней назад +325

    For those interested, the final scene of the movie Alatriste starring Viggo Mortensen (Aragorn) shows a group of a tercio formation during the battle of Rocroi in 1643

    • @beazles5684
      @beazles5684 27 дней назад +7

      oh damn this is cool

    • @luxhistoriae1172
      @luxhistoriae1172 24 дня назад +17

      Bit sad they showed us the last battle of them and not the bright victories and I say tyat as a french

    • @Dark-Mustang
      @Dark-Mustang 24 дня назад +9

      Rocroi was the last hurrah of the Tercio, as it gave way to the more modern Regiments

    • @luxhistoriae1172
      @luxhistoriae1172 23 дня назад +14

      @@Dark-Mustang worse part they didn't "lost" to us , they have been abandoned by the Germans and had to fight the full french force alone. It's already fck up they decided to stay

    • @valentinkrajzelman4649
      @valentinkrajzelman4649 21 день назад +1

      uuh nice thats the movie for tonight

  • @crackuheadu633
    @crackuheadu633 27 дней назад +255

    They wouldn't stand up to the archebussy 🔥🔥

  • @FroJSimpson
    @FroJSimpson 28 дней назад +119

    It was around the thought of, *"Ooh, we do love a highly flexible formation of arquebussy around here"* that I decided I'd had enough internet for one day.

  • @AWillforY
    @AWillforY 28 дней назад +139

    For the Kings and Generals! For the algorithm!

  • @ceroilertv4101
    @ceroilertv4101 26 дней назад +100

    "Arqubussy"💀

  • @nogoodlib
    @nogoodlib 27 дней назад +115

    Arc Bussy whatsius?

  • @reality9451
    @reality9451 25 дней назад +71

    They were also phased out as artillery improved - as did the artillerists. A tercio was a WONDERFUL formation for skipping round shot through.

  • @johnclintvillanueva1578
    @johnclintvillanueva1578 28 дней назад +182

    The main weakness it was too vulnerable to a much artillery barrage just like what happened in Mohacs

    • @snugglecity3500
      @snugglecity3500 28 дней назад +2

      What about cavalry taking out the musketmen

    • @rodsin8780
      @rodsin8780 28 дней назад +48

      @@snugglecity3500 the musketmen would return to the square after shooting and then return to their positions. The main weakeness was an artillery attack as seen in Rocroi (1643)

    • @samiamrg7
      @samiamrg7 28 дней назад +27

      +snugglecity3500 The point of it being a combined arms formation is that it allowed the gunners to easily take shelter behind the pikemen if necessary.
      The Tercio and all other large-block-type formations declined in favor of long, thin, line formations as guns and artillery became more common and powerful. The line maximized the number of musketmen who could shoot at once while minimizing the number of men who could be hit by a single cannonball ripping through the formation. Instead of, like, 10 guys getting hit like in a solid square, only 3 or 4 might get hit.

    • @snugglecity3500
      @snugglecity3500 28 дней назад +2

      @@rodsin8780 if the square was surrounded by infantry with pikemen in the center where would they return to? If a cavalry unit charges them why are the infantry at the front? Shouldnt the pikemen be at the front for protection?

    • @taan1424
      @taan1424 28 дней назад +5

      Probably infantry just retreat behind the pikes and they meet the charge.

  • @zafjohn
    @zafjohn 28 дней назад +42

    So this is the tercio infantry i keep choosing in eu4

    • @cirokistermann7834
      @cirokistermann7834 24 дня назад +2

      What about Modernized Tercio?

    • @dan1_1
      @dan1_1 19 дней назад +1

      @@cirokistermann7834 space marines

  • @ROBERTNABORNEY
    @ROBERTNABORNEY 25 дней назад +27

    Master of the tercio, Gonsalvo de Cordoba, "El Gran Cpaitan"

    • @MegaBitterMan
      @MegaBitterMan 20 дней назад +5

      Gonzalo Fernández de Córdoba*

  • @stalwartlenny9883
    @stalwartlenny9883 28 дней назад +27

    Damn, this really does help visualize these formations. Yall should cover the swedish units

  • @JohnHelldiver4724
    @JohnHelldiver4724 27 дней назад +47

    Hehe, arque-bussy

  • @D990990990
    @D990990990 25 дней назад +57

    That... looks wrong.
    Why are the firelocks placed completely outside the formation, completely vulnerable to cavalry?
    And the pikes which are supposed to protect the gunners from cavalry are just bunched up in the middle?

    • @chickenmaster66
      @chickenmaster66 25 дней назад +36

      They’re outside so that they don’t misfire and hit any of the pikemen or swordsmen. They’re small so highly mobile. And go into the formation in case the enemy army decides to charge. The animation is a little off though. There’s normally 6-12 groups of arquebusiers outside the formation not just 4.

    • @chickenmaster66
      @chickenmaster66 25 дней назад +11

      Also if the pikemen were outside they’d easily get flanked.. dude are you looking at the size of those spears. How do you turn? The Macedonian phalanx could easily be flanked from the sides which is why Alexander had swordsmen next to them and cavalry protecting both flanks. With Alexander his companion cavalry always taking the right flank

    • @D990990990
      @D990990990 25 дней назад +11

      @chickenmaster66 That's the entite point of the pike square!
      You can not flank a pike square since the formation is a mixture of pikes, firelocks, and swordsmen with a 360° field of view, not 3 individual squares. The only real way to break a pike&shot formation is to outgun it with cannons, have your firmation advance and whitle them down with firelocks or grind it out in a melee eith pikes and swordsmen fighting inbetween the rows of pikes.

    • @jungoder1085
      @jungoder1085 25 дней назад

      It was so the swordsmen and gunners could move around the pikemen and use them as a wall
      If the formation as a whole wanted to move the pikemen couldn’t be facing in all directions like a pike square so that’s where the swordsmen come in to protect the flanks along with gunners as they’re more flexible
      The whole point was to get a formation that could respond to most battlefield situations

    • @zagdyo9115
      @zagdyo9115 25 дней назад +3

      Multiple of these squares were deployed at once. The shot were formed into way more than 4 squares and would rotate from the front to inside the formation (hence, sleeves).
      Similar to roman maniples, these units could maneuver somewhat independently, causing and exploiting breaches in enemy lines and it was easy for pikes to close their own line in front of any cavalry charge.

  • @nestorvetumbra
    @nestorvetumbra 28 дней назад +57

    NO. The Tercio is not a formation, but an administrative and operational unit, made up of companies of pikemen and marksmen. It is the direct successor of the colonelies of the Italian wars, and the Spanish equivalent of the Landsknecht or Swiss regiments, with the difference that unlike these it was a national troop and not mercenaries. The confusion of calling a formation "Tercio" comes from German and Anglo-Saxon historiography, which focuses on troops from other countries (for example, Austria) that adopted some formations used by the Tercios, but not their recruitment and organization model.

    • @emilioliano9411
      @emilioliano9411 28 дней назад +17

      yeah the Tercio is more similar to the Roman Legions, while a formation would be something like the Roman Triplex Acies (used by the legions, but not the same).

    • @nestorvetumbra
      @nestorvetumbra 28 дней назад +14

      @@emilioliano9411 Exactly. The formation that appears in the video is a bastioned squadron (or square).
      Another error is the mention of swordsmen as an integral part of the formations. The rodeleros were never a formal part of the Tercio: the soldiers were equipped with shields and swords if the situation required it, but they were not a type of troop on paper. Officially they were corseletes (armored pikemen), who exchanged their weapons for shields or halberds if they had to abandon formation to accompany the harquebusier sleeves or assault a breach.

    • @senseishu937
      @senseishu937 28 дней назад

      @@nestorvetumbra Really? I've always heard that there were always swordsmen nearby to help with close-quarters melee when the need arises.

    • @nestorvetumbra
      @nestorvetumbra 28 дней назад +9

      @@senseishu937 Well that's not true 😅. All the soldiers of the Tercio carried swords as sidearms, but the offensive weapons were the pike, the arquebus and later the musket. Halberds, greatswords and Rodelas (round or oval shields that are sometimes wrongly translated as bucklers) were specialist weapons that were only used in specific situations by pikemen. Of these three, the most common were halberds and other polearms. The combination of sword and shield where it was most common was in sieges, especially in breach attacks, underground warfare (tunnels), and reconnaissance missions near enemy walls; but the swordsman never existed as a type of troop.

    • @senseishu937
      @senseishu937 28 дней назад +2

      @@nestorvetumbra ah, well I didn't know that. Thanks!

  • @FiL_0
    @FiL_0 28 дней назад +98

    These bots are everywhere
    Just like Charles V's empire

    • @elbolainas4174
      @elbolainas4174 27 дней назад +2

      I missed it. Which ones this time? The "here's the clip you're looking for", the uttp ones or the "here's a clip of kings and generals doing [redacted]"?

  • @hollawar1391
    @hollawar1391 25 дней назад +22

    although good explanation, this illustration seems very stiff an inadequate..

  • @TenOrbital
    @TenOrbital 23 дня назад +2

    Some examples of change of formation to meet different threats would be interesting

  • @user-np6dm7ks3e
    @user-np6dm7ks3e 26 дней назад +29

    imagine a cannon ball . LOL

    • @theprancingprussian
      @theprancingprussian 26 дней назад +9

      The actual formation was hollow quite often to provide safety to musketeers when cavalry was nearly upon them
      When fully in roundshot from a well skimmed angle could stream through around 8-40 men

    • @1R4MgMYl7a
      @1R4MgMYl7a 6 дней назад

      i imagined it now what

    • @theprancingprussian
      @theprancingprussian 6 дней назад

      @@1R4MgMYl7a when the formation moves to force the enemy from the field ( gunmen and some melee users wait behind, rest bunch up and charge )
      A single shot could stream through up to 80 men if well placed, only limit is depth of formation

  • @theprancingprussian
    @theprancingprussian 27 дней назад +45

    Seems a bit misrepresented
    A tecio had a hollow square sometimes using 4 lines linking up
    Musketeers were in the external squares for firing on mass and in waves
    Arquebussiers would skirmish around the square
    The swordsmen were not in a line around the pikes but muxed between swords, pijes and halberds making a thin line no more than 3 ranks deep infront of the pikes so they had toom to fall back, their job was to deflect enemy pikes snd just generally shove them si theur points are too far forward and steep to comr down and hit yoir men while pikes protected from cavalry

    • @amh9494
      @amh9494 26 дней назад

      Musketeers and arquebussiers in the same army? 😑 They're the same unit with different weapons as they developed.

    • @theprancingprussian
      @theprancingprussian 26 дней назад +5

      @@amh9494 arquebuses and cavaliers were lighter than muskets and used in a role similar to Napoleonic wars light infantry, they could carry daggers, pistols if rich enough and all while having lighter kit, a less cumbersome weapon that barely required a fork due to its weight not affecting sway and trees being suitable to prop it up

  • @austinnharrisfilms7608
    @austinnharrisfilms7608 25 дней назад +9

    Surely having the pikemen in front of the sword infantry would be the best way to counter against cavalry? Or would the swordsmen retreat into the central square of pikes if a cavalry charge happens?

    • @blankspace998
      @blankspace998 24 дня назад +1

      That's what interests me as well.
      I understand that the rear pikemen are to protect the rear and the tercio used to be able to fight 360°, but I feel like the square is wider than the length of the spear. Meaning that the pikemen in the middle were not engaged all the time. There are a lot of visualisations of standing tercios but hard to find tercio in fight.

    • @desmondd1984
      @desmondd1984 19 дней назад +1

      The animation exaggerates the presence of swordsman I think. There might have been some, but the infantry would have been almost entirely pikemen and arquebusiers.

    • @nilloc93
      @nilloc93 13 дней назад +1

      The formation is flexible. The 3 elements move around/inside of each other depending on the situation.
      So if cavalry approach the pikes will move to the outside while the other move inside of the pike square. The arquebusiers did not rigidly stick to the corners of the formation and their companies would move around as needed.
      Also remember the army isn't 1 big Tercio there would be several so they could mutually support each other.

    • @blankspace998
      @blankspace998 13 дней назад

      @@nilloc93 that's what people would like to see. There are not a lot of representation of how the Tercio was moving. Mostly stationary examples.

  • @jackiecooper9439
    @jackiecooper9439 25 дней назад +16

    Wait a minute. The swordsmen were out so cav charge won't destroy them?

    • @BananaJoe-jb5kf
      @BananaJoe-jb5kf 25 дней назад +4

      The pikemen where close behind so yeah, you would take a fiew swordsmen with a charge, but it was ultimately suicidal to run into them

    • @donmanue3274
      @donmanue3274 22 дня назад

      Do yo know what a pike is? It's not a fuc***g spear.

    • @jmmh1313
      @jmmh1313 5 дней назад

      It is not well thought, when carrying a gun, to keep it exposed and in front of you. This is the same principle that operates over here.

  • @nachoolo
    @nachoolo 23 дня назад +1

    Also worth pointing out that the Tercio formation was only formed with swordmen during the first few decades. Later on they disappeared and the arquebusiers became more common.
    Also. The declined because of the development of line formations and the bayonet.

  • @bamaman6478
    @bamaman6478 28 дней назад +31

    Oh no not the arcubussies 💀

  • @nick335online
    @nick335online 25 дней назад +21

    "the answer, use a gun, and if that don't work... Use more gun"
    - a red or blue man with a plan

  • @AHersheyHere
    @AHersheyHere 26 дней назад +13

    It is interesting how it is akin to the Maniple system of the Romans

  • @potato6403
    @potato6403 12 дней назад +2

    The pikeman in the very middle 🥰

  • @darkaphelion9870
    @darkaphelion9870 28 дней назад +4

    This looks like it needs thermal paste.

  • @KharkiBoblauss
    @KharkiBoblauss 28 дней назад +7

    Mmm Arquebussy

  • @danielkrcmar5395
    @danielkrcmar5395 25 дней назад +24

    Ah yes, let's put our guys with short range weapons infront of our guys with massive pointy death sticks so the pointy death sticks can't do what they were designed to do...

    • @sirjohnbarlow7261
      @sirjohnbarlow7261 25 дней назад +20

      Actually the massive pointy death sticks were, indeed, massive and went beyond the swordmen formation so it actually covered them from direct assault from cavalry while the swordmen covered the pikemen from infantry trying to sneak up to them as the worst enemy of a pike was a double-handed sword

    • @DarrenTachimukai
      @DarrenTachimukai 21 день назад

      Actually, the pikes were like 5m long, covering the swordmen. The swordmen could also hide inside the pikes as the pikemen change their position with swordsmen and riflemen units.
      I recommend you see Alatriste Battle of Rocroi

  • @cruzaider5339
    @cruzaider5339 26 дней назад +57

    Arqu- what?

    • @ceroilertv4101
      @ceroilertv4101 26 дней назад +19

      The Arqubussy

    • @cruzaider5339
      @cruzaider5339 26 дней назад +8

      @@ceroilertv4101 No wonder the Spaniards loved it

    • @ceroilertv4101
      @ceroilertv4101 26 дней назад +4

      @@cruzaider5339 We have to use the Arqubussys Hernándo

    • @nocosa
      @nocosa 26 дней назад

      Arcabuces. Fire weapon.

  • @jm.blanco
    @jm.blanco 27 дней назад +16

    The best army of modern history ,unstoppable for 150 years. And Rocroy was a result of betrayal.
    The 🐐 army were the almogavares of course, never defeated.

    • @alexdobma4694
      @alexdobma4694 27 дней назад +2

      🗣GEKOLONISEERD 🇳🇱🇳🇱🇳🇱
      🗣WEGWEZEN VUILE SPANJOOL

    • @wisemankugelmemicus1701
      @wisemankugelmemicus1701 27 дней назад

      The spanish arqubussies were unstoppable

    • @elsalvador1489
      @elsalvador1489 27 дней назад +1

      ​@@alexdobma4694 Willem van Oranje💪💪

    • @cr1tikal_arc
      @cr1tikal_arc 26 дней назад

      ...modern history? i wouldnt call anything pre-1900s "modern history".

    • @biggusdickus819
      @biggusdickus819 26 дней назад

      ​@@cr1tikal_arc Lol such an ignorant comment, modern history officially started after the battle of cerignola

  • @gonzalammi
    @gonzalammi 28 дней назад +40

    Proud of Spanish Empire 👍

  • @remixsparten98
    @remixsparten98 25 дней назад +9

    Welcome fellow bannerlord players

    • @RealDawg-dr4ft
      @RealDawg-dr4ft 11 дней назад

      I was trying to see how this would work in BL… I dont see how the pikes would be effective if the swordsman were outside of them..

  • @speediestmoon1404
    @speediestmoon1404 28 дней назад +15

    Arquebussy?

  • @joekrafft7125
    @joekrafft7125 25 дней назад +18

    i’m very confused by this formation

    • @pexobestia
      @pexobestia 24 дня назад +2

      As described, that is the initial formation, with the arquebus "mangas" detached from the nucleus, and firing with a wide angle of vision. As enemy aproached, mangas retreated into the mass of pikemen. If engaged, pikemen fixed the enemy, while swordmen flanked, and arquebuses looked for shots of opportunity...

  • @RenierCronje
    @RenierCronje 25 дней назад +22

    I would position the pikemen in the outer square to defend against cavalry charges, with the swordsmen positioned in the second or third line, ready to move in and engage the enemy when needed. The archers would be placed in the centre to provide ranged support.

    • @jk_espana
      @jk_espana 25 дней назад +2

      It was usually on that way xd

    • @tandemcharge5114
      @tandemcharge5114 25 дней назад

      This is wrong and this is stupid. It's backwards, inflexible, and susceptible to be easily defeated. Please don't spread stupidity

    • @TaigaShark-ij8oh
      @TaigaShark-ij8oh 25 дней назад +14

      The tercio formation is deployed so that it could respond according to the situation with flexibility.
      The swords men are support units to act as rear/flank guards to ward off any that pass through the pikes. Pikemen can either form porcupine formation to ward off Calvary from getting flanked, or phalanx formation to engage the enemy in frontal assault. The musketeers, act as skirmishers to weaken the enemies.
      Should the Calvary charge come. The pike will form a defensive line (porcupine) around it. The swordsmen will position closer to pikemen. While Musketeers kite as much as possible before retreating back to centre.
      On frontal engagement, the pikemen will form the front line pike formation, the swordsmen would blend in while supporting the flanks to kill any that pass through the pikes.
      The musketeers fire through any gaps they could find.

    • @Flacto-vs6np
      @Flacto-vs6np 25 дней назад +9

      the formation shown here is the marching formation, so its used then the formation is moving around the battlefield. when a cavalry charge is immenent, the swordsmen and gunmen are pulled into the center so the pikes can protect them. when engaging against infantry, the gunmen shift to the rear and the swordsmen will move to protect the flanks of the pikrmen as well as attempt to disrupt the enemy formation. however the formation depicted is shown most commonly as its their default formation

    • @Discosn8ke
      @Discosn8ke 25 дней назад +3

      Musketeers and harquibusurs not archers. If they were bunched in the center, they wouldn't be able to shoot because their friends would block the line of fire. Like the other commenter said, this is a marching formation; it will respond to different situations depending on who is engaging them. Sowrds men can always run to the sides here and the gunners can easily run behind the large formation sincy they were already at the corners.

  • @viron6734
    @viron6734 25 дней назад +13

    It was actually highly INflexible, due to being such a large unit. Historians have struggled to understand if it was at all effective and how often it was implemented.

    • @mqdboy9278
      @mqdboy9278 25 дней назад +5

      I mean, it was effective, just look at the battles and the casualties

    • @rastafaris9121
      @rastafaris9121 22 дня назад

      Look to Bicoa, Pavía, San Quintín and shut your mouth when u dont know a shit

    • @DarrenTachimukai
      @DarrenTachimukai 21 день назад

      It was more efective and flexible compared to the units and army of the era, just look bicoca or san quintin.

    • @maximipe
      @maximipe 14 дней назад

      Apparently during Vernon's invasion to Panama the spanish being outnumbered faked the drums of an incoming Tercio, causing the british to run. That's how effective they were

  • @LordBloodraven
    @LordBloodraven 12 дней назад

    Flintlock muskets: "Yes, stand in that nice formation for the packages we're sending your way."

  • @sonm4201
    @sonm4201 26 дней назад +18

    Sorry wrong formation

  • @Gulit99
    @Gulit99 28 дней назад +2

    Great short!

  • @noone4700
    @noone4700 28 дней назад +2

    pleeeeaaaassseeee more early modern period tactics!

  • @robingood21century
    @robingood21century 28 дней назад +3

    Tercios: we are unstoppable
    Meanwhile artillery: hold my canister shot

    • @wisemankugelmemicus1701
      @wisemankugelmemicus1701 27 дней назад +1

      Arqubussies:

    • @nexting3d
      @nexting3d 26 дней назад +5

      Canister shot was not a thing in the 1570s. It appeared in the 1650, by which time the tercio was becoming obsolete

  • @StalkerQtya
    @StalkerQtya 23 дня назад +1

    Flintlock muskets and firearms becoming cheaper, but artillery becoming more accurate had an overall higher impact.
    You don't want great collumns of pikes marching, while a few enemy cannons can bombard them to nothing.

  • @toinenosoite3173
    @toinenosoite3173 26 дней назад +28

    How did it react to a cavalry charge? Now the pikemen are in the middle, i.e. totally useless towards cavalry, and the other ones are extremely vulnerable. These formations have had to have a huge amount of training to work well.

    • @christiannicolasborgenstee3092
      @christiannicolasborgenstee3092 26 дней назад +14

      it worked "slightly differently than this animation shows, but the discipline and effectiveness is written all over the 16th and 17th century

    • @UGNAvalon
      @UGNAvalon 26 дней назад +1

      I’d presume the swordsmen would kneel down &/or disperse while the pikemen come up from behind them to lower the pikes across the ranks. The pikes wouldn’t need to stick out far, just far enough to discourage incoming horses.
      But then again, this is the first time I’m hearing of it, so your guess is as good as mine. 🤷‍♂️

    • @tandemcharge5114
      @tandemcharge5114 25 дней назад

      Are you stupid?

    • @TaigaShark-ij8oh
      @TaigaShark-ij8oh 25 дней назад +5

      When Calvary charge is incoming.
      The pike men form a porcupine formation, they'll make space gaps for musketeers to come in after kiting. The swords men would position close to pikemen, crouch below the pikes and kill any Calvary riders that fell off the horse during the collision.

    • @jungoder1085
      @jungoder1085 25 дней назад +2

      It was so the swordsmen and gunners could move around the pikemen and use them as a wall
      If the formation as a whole wanted to move the pikemen couldn’t be facing in all directions like a pike square so that’s where the swordsmen come in to protect the flanks along with gunners as they’re more flexible
      The whole point was to get a formation that could respond to most battlefield situations

  • @mufalmewww
    @mufalmewww 28 дней назад +1

    Do a special on the grand leader of the tercios: sancho de londono, the great military general, who also wrote very important literary works, such as “returning to roman military discipline”

    • @Benito-lr8mz
      @Benito-lr8mz 28 дней назад

      No exactly the Román legion is similar but no exactly the Tercio is adapted to " new ages" the "creation" of Spanish Tercios is work of Gonzalo Fernández de Córdoba " El Gran Capitán".

  • @ardavan2550
    @ardavan2550 26 дней назад +23

    Thats how crasus died

  • @kidkique
    @kidkique 21 день назад

    you would do a really good video on the evolution of assault unit formations

  • @anchovygod2124
    @anchovygod2124 23 дня назад

    i remember reading the end credits during one of my first shroom trips, and damn i was crying

  • @franciscojorgesousaandrade
    @franciscojorgesousaandrade 28 дней назад +3

    Do you know what I remembered when you mentioned the tercio, Total war shorgun 2 the Portuguese tercios.

    • @madmarvshighwaywarrior2870
      @madmarvshighwaywarrior2870 28 дней назад

      Also Medieval 2 Total War: Tercio pikemen for the Spanish and Portuguese. I also complement them with arquebusiers (better if musketeers) and Sword and buckler men.

  •  20 дней назад +1

    For all those watching this video, several things should be made clear about the Tercios:
    _ The Tercio shown is only from the first Royal Ordinance of 1536 (there were several updates to the Ordinances every 10 or 30 years) and the rodeleros were already practically in disuse by then, replaced a few years later by more pikemen and arquebusiers (the rodelas were only still used in siege assaults); removing the rodeleros from the equation, of the 3,000 men that made up a Tercio, 60% were pikemen, while the arquebusiers were 40%. By the year 1568, 5% of musketeers were added (a number that grew from only 200 men, to being practically half of the total number of firearms), reducing the total number of soldiers from 3,000 to 2,500; While by 1600, there were more firearms than pikemen in the Tercios and they went from 2,500 to 1,500 men, to then be reduced in the Ordinances of 1632 to 1,000 men (by then, 60% of the soldiers were musketeers and 40% were pikemen). The Tercios continued to reduce in number until 1680 when they were the size of a Battalion of approximately 480 men and adding bayonets to the arsenal to compensate for the decrease in pikemen.
    _ The Tercios were not a tactical combat formation, but a logistical, organizational and strategic entity (as would be a Swedish Brigade), the true tactical combat unit were the 10 or 15 autonomous companies of 250 men each that formed it and that functioned like the Dutch battalions, which were grouped in different ways depending on the situation (sometimes they were grouped in a huge combat regiment as we saw in the video, other times they were subdivided into several combat battalions or functioned in loose companies), with the only exception that they always kept the sleeves of musketeers or arquebusiers separate from the main body of pikemen (to have more flexibility and maneuverability, which was the true characteristic of the Tercios) and the "formation" that everyone takes like that of the Tercios in this video, is the one they used only defensively.
    _ Each Tercio was commanded by a Field Master, who only had control of the troops at a strategic level. The companies were tactically independent as I said in the previous point, they were commanded by a captain and were subdivided into other smaller units commanded by sergeants. Of the 10 companies of 250 men, 8 were made up of 80 corslets pikemen, 120 light pikemen and 50 arquebusiers, the remaining two were made up of 250 arquebusiers; from the year 1568, 20 light pikemen were removed from each company and replaced by 20 musketeers (the division of roles in the company continued to change always in favor of introducing more firearms).
    _ The formations used by the Tercios were not monolithic as seen here, the sleeves of arquebusiers were in constant movement around the squadron and were deployed in front of the pikemen firing at the enemy, in case the cavalry attacked they would retreat within the pikemen square, which adopted a less rectangular shape to withstand the attack; on the other hand, the rodeleros fell into disuse in the middle of the 16th century, so just ignore their existence in the formation shown in the video (generally they only left the pike formation when charging against enemy pikemen). By the year 1570, the arquebusiers were located where the rodeleros are placed here and the musketeers were located in the sleeves (increasing the effectiveness and power of the shot).

    •  11 дней назад +1

      Evolution of the formations most used by the companies of the Tercios (the most common in each period, not the only one they used):
      Legend: ◇ - Arquebusiers
      ♤ - Pikemen
      ¤ - Musketeers
      Note: swordsmen with shields are only used in sieges, they are normally corselet pikemen who change their weapon configuration.
      Ordinance of 1536 - the view in the video:
      ♤: 2,000 ◇: 1,000
      ◇◇◇ ◇◇◇
      ◇◇◇♤♤♤♤♤♤♤♤♤♤◇◇◇
      ♤♤♤♤♤♤♤♤♤♤
      ♤♤♤♤♤♤♤♤♤♤
      ♤♤♤♤♤♤♤♤♤♤
      ♤♤♤♤♤♤♤♤♤♤
      ◇◇◇♤♤♤♤♤♤♤♤♤♤◇◇◇
      ◇◇◇ ◇◇◇
      Ordinance of 1568:
      ♤: 1,430 ◇: 1,420 ¤: 150
      ◇◇◇ ◇◇◇
      ◇◇◇ ◇◇◇
      ◇◇◇¤♤♤♤♤♤♤♤♤¤◇◇◇
      ¤♤♤♤♤♤♤♤♤¤
      ¤♤♤♤♤♤♤♤♤¤
      ◇◇◇¤♤♤♤♤♤♤♤♤¤◇◇◇
      ◇◇◇¤♤♤♤♤♤♤♤♤¤◇◇◇
      ◇◇◇ ◇◇◇
      Ordinance of 1598:
      ♤: 1,040 ◇: 1,260 ¤: 200
      ¤¤ ¤¤
      ¤¤◇◇◇◇◇◇◇◇◇◇¤¤
      ◇♤♤♤♤♤♤♤♤◇
      ◇♤♤♤♤♤♤♤♤◇
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      ◇◇◇◇◇◇◇◇◇◇
      ¤¤◇◇◇◇◇◇◇◇◇◇¤¤
      ¤¤ ¤¤
      Time between 1620 - 1632:
      ♤: 600 ◇: 700 ¤: 200
      ¤¤ ¤¤
      ¤¤◇◇◇◇◇◇◇◇◇◇¤¤
      ◇♤♤♤♤♤♤♤♤◇
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      ¤¤◇◇◇◇◇◇◇◇◇◇¤¤
      ¤¤ ¤¤
      Ordinance of 1632:
      ♤: 350 ◇: 400-450 ¤: 200-250
      ◇◇◇◇◇◇◇◇◇◇
      ♤♤♤♤♤♤♤♤♤♤
      ♤♤♤♤♤♤♤♤♤♤
      ¤¤¤◇◇◇◇◇◇◇◇◇◇¤¤¤
      ¤¤¤◇◇◇◇◇◇◇◇◇◇¤¤¤
      ¤¤¤ ¤¤¤
      Last Ordinances of the Tercios in 1680:
      ♤: 144 ¤: 288
      ¤¤¤¤¤¤♤♤♤♤♤♤¤¤¤¤¤¤
      ¤¤¤¤¤¤♤♤♤♤♤♤¤¤¤¤¤¤
      ....

  • @user-wj7bu9zv7i
    @user-wj7bu9zv7i 27 дней назад +5

    How does that work though? Shouldn't the pikeman be in the front, to hold of cavalry?

    • @eazy8579
      @eazy8579 27 дней назад +3

      Later, yes, but to begin, the swords men were in the front and flanks, to protect the sides and to break the deadlock during a push of pike; later they moved to the middle, and then were replaced by more pikemen altogether; Sandrhoman History has a more detailed video on the evolution on the formation

  • @dazzer3795
    @dazzer3795 18 дней назад

    The pike square was lined with musketeers/arquebusiers; the sword and buckler men were discarded

  • @dandanthetvman1819
    @dandanthetvman1819 24 дня назад

    Man cannons had to be brutal to those

  • @Block155
    @Block155 21 день назад

    I like how you can see the Roman style in it

  • @hatuletoh
    @hatuletoh 18 дней назад

    I'll bet it felt pretty safe being a pikeman in the middle of the formation...right until some accurate canon fire started coming your way.

  • @Geralt0frivia_
    @Geralt0frivia_ 14 дней назад

    Mounted cavalary has enterd the chat

  • @Trias805
    @Trias805 20 дней назад

    Okay, now I want to see them in action, because it's tough for me to imagine how it worked. Especially, how did pikemen operate from *inside* the square?

  • @thomaswright981
    @thomaswright981 18 часов назад

    It’s called a noob box in total war. Even the dwarves know of the box.

  • @gustavchambert7072
    @gustavchambert7072 14 дней назад

    Not just flintlock muskets. What REALLY made the terico obsolete was the development of lightweight field cannons.
    When the terico was developed cannon were massive, and were essentially stationary once battle was joined. But by the first third or so of the thirty years war (somewhat) lighter field cannons had been developed.
    And, as can be readily imagined, cannon fire is utterly devastating to formations that are as deep as a terico.

  • @bigsarge2085
    @bigsarge2085 28 дней назад +2

    ⚔️

  • @karnegionzzz
    @karnegionzzz 27 дней назад +5

    Do tercio groups usually were deployed in a line? Could enemy cav also go for the gap between each square? Also, wasn't tercio formation's overall firepower weaker than the usual skirmisher line tactics since the front line is also occupied by melee infantries?

    • @X.Y.Z.07
      @X.Y.Z.07 27 дней назад +6

      The musket in this era was not as efficient as in Napoleonic war..
      Its heavier, and usually requires forward support (Kind of like Bipod) when shooting.
      And also, took longer to reload.
      Bayonet wasn't developed yet, that's why Musketeers formation would be accompanied by melee infantries.
      This is why the era is called Pike and Shot Formation.
      Lastly, while it's not shown in the video, there's several of this Tercios formation in the field, protecting each other flank.
      And on the furthermost flank, there would also be cavalry division guarding it.
      On top of that, in the rear, they are usually supported by cannons..

    • @X.Y.Z.07
      @X.Y.Z.07 27 дней назад +2

      The number of pike and musket do varies as the time progress and more countries adopted it.
      Most notably were the Dutch, where they created a more flexible type of the formation.
      Make the pike square smaller, but supported by larger number of Musketeers..
      It makes them to be more mobile and flexible in the field..

  • @jestergodfield690
    @jestergodfield690 21 день назад

    The Arqubussys make for nice "sleeves"

  • @AC-mw3tz
    @AC-mw3tz 24 дня назад +2

    Vivan los Tercios de Flandes!!!!

  • @Shiftry87
    @Shiftry87 12 дней назад +2

    What was the point of having the spearmen in the middle? The greates advantage for spearmen over swordsmen is there ability to hold off cavelry and to create a long range danger zone for any swordsmen trying to get close. Placing them in the middle like this makes there entire purpose useless. Maybe they never got it to work but placing 1 or 2 lines of spearmen behind 2 lines of swordsmen and use there spears to better defend the swordsmen infront sounds like a mutch better use of them. If your not gonna use your spearmen for there longer range then they are just not worth having over regular swordsmen.

  • @taggartlawfirm
    @taggartlawfirm 2 дня назад

    And Gustavus Adolphus ran rings around Tilly’s Tercios …

  • @mrucantcheatme1
    @mrucantcheatme1 21 день назад

    Perhaps interesting to cover the 80 years war. In which the dutch was i believe the first to beat the tercio formation using new tactics

  • @morewubswithyourdubs
    @morewubswithyourdubs 20 дней назад +1

    Archabusier is going in the -ussy dictionary because I can’t unhear it

  • @cameronhanna367
    @cameronhanna367 25 дней назад +6

    Terthio

  • @The_dude_channel
    @The_dude_channel 21 день назад +1

    Dude this formation fucked Europe for like 100 years. Chad formation if you ask me.

  • @tinyguy1015
    @tinyguy1015 11 дней назад

    Wish I could get my troops in Bannerlord 2 to do this shit

  • @amindforall442
    @amindforall442 16 дней назад

    That looks like it requires extreme discipline in troops to sustain formation although you can see how it can be very effective 🤔💯

  • @rudman97
    @rudman97 15 дней назад

    This evolved into square formation which replaced pikemen and arquebusiers with infantrymen holding bayonet added rifles.
    The devastating power of square formation was shown by Napoleon at battle of pyramid fighting thousands of armed mamluk cavalrymen.

  • @johnmcgehee5484
    @johnmcgehee5484 22 дня назад

    [socket bayonet has entered the chat]

  • @chameschamek305
    @chameschamek305 28 дней назад

    Wow nice more please

  • @TrentonR
    @TrentonR 22 дня назад +1

    So where can I find some arquebusiers?

  • @lo1lawl
    @lo1lawl 22 дня назад +1

    After playing thousands of hours of Total War, I can assure you this formation is a great way to lose all your range to cavalry :(
    Also can't miss when you're firing into a blob like that.
    Also wow imagine getting targeted by the grand barrage in that formation.
    No wonder Napoleon walked over Spain.

  • @danieltaylor2340
    @danieltaylor2340 3 часа назад

    I have never understood why the large box formations existed. What do the guys in the middle of the formation do while their outside formations are being attacked, stand there? Why don’t they make their lines a bit thinner so all their soldiers can engage in the battle ?

  • @alexestevez8266
    @alexestevez8266 28 дней назад +1

    Not expected and liked

  • @fahimzahir9587
    @fahimzahir9587 25 дней назад +16

    Ah the noob square

  • @metaru6752
    @metaru6752 28 дней назад

    i'm trying this on total war now

  • @sakara4
    @sakara4 24 дня назад

    Britenfelt says hello

  • @ren-redar2055
    @ren-redar2055 18 дней назад

    Reliable field artillery has a bit to do with it as well. Great big slow moving target perfect for grazing fire or if they do manage to close canister or grape.

  • @richardmartinez5938
    @richardmartinez5938 3 дня назад +1

    Man they look like they went to west point.

  • @deborahdean8867
    @deborahdean8867 28 дней назад +3

    How do pikes repel a charge with swordsmen in front?

    • @thewheatness
      @thewheatness 27 дней назад

      the formation could open up and allow the swordsmen to fall back behind the line of pikes

    • @deborahdean8867
      @deborahdean8867 27 дней назад

      @@thewheatness and with those long pikes, it'd be hard to kill anybody running up on you with a sword. You'd be defenseless with super long sticks. I'm sure it must work some kind of way but I dont get it.

    • @thewheatness
      @thewheatness 27 дней назад

      @@deborahdean8867 massed units of pikes were primarily used defensively, and were nigh impregnable to melee attackers, a wall of spikes that extend ten to twenty-three feet in front of the users, I'd highly recommend watching SandRhoman History's video "Pike and Shot Warfare - The Spanish Tercio", he explains this topic much more in depth

    • @eazy8579
      @eazy8579 27 дней назад

      @@deborahdean8867You have the pikes stick past the swordsmen, as they’re long enough to do, and so they can stand between the individual pikes, and still be protected, while preventing anyone from pushing past them, if the multiple rows of pikes behind the first one wasn’t enough of a deterrent

    • @deborahdean8867
      @deborahdean8867 26 дней назад +1

      @@eazy8579 oh I see, that makes alot more sense!!! Good explanation!.

  • @sootcoot8712
    @sootcoot8712 23 дня назад

    Imagine standing in the middle of that. Must have been hard to breathe and move.

  • @TalesfromVirginia
    @TalesfromVirginia 21 день назад

    Cannons would have a field day

  • @singhjobim9719
    @singhjobim9719 4 дня назад

    These tactics, like the open-ended square were superior to the Aztec mob like attacks.

  • @Nicolas-qs2vq
    @Nicolas-qs2vq 28 дней назад +3

    This was a great surprise

  • @cirokistermann7834
    @cirokistermann7834 24 дня назад +1

    Is a realy early formation, not the late Tercios, with a fine pikemen line and much more Archebusiers.

  • @upload5622
    @upload5622 25 дней назад +3

    The socketed bayonet changed the benefits of tercio?

    • @ernstschmidt4725
      @ernstschmidt4725 25 дней назад +2

      yes, with bayonets pikes were no longer absolutely necessary and everyone could be armed as musketmen

  • @mango2005
    @mango2005 22 дня назад +1

    pike square!

  • @Benito-lr8mz
    @Benito-lr8mz 27 дней назад +1

    The other European powers with England and Framce enlarged the victiries over Spain in fact for exemple the Spanish Armada defeat consecuently the defeat of English Armada in 1.589 agaisnt north of Spain specially in La Coruña with enormous looses inclusively more than Spanish Armada ; France and Rocroi is true the Tercios loose but no loose the rest of battles in fact for exemple in Valenciennes or Tutligen the true is in Rocroi the Spanish Tercios is the decline of invincibility but not the end .

  • @bradinhartley6552
    @bradinhartley6552 15 дней назад

    The mortar boyz woulda had a field day with that formation🤙🫡🚀

  • @Crowsinger
    @Crowsinger День назад

    What's the point of having the units with spears on the inside instead of them being a front line? Also why the ranged units wouldn't be behind, but in front of the melee units? I don't understand.

  • @eugenecbell
    @eugenecbell 16 дней назад

    Shouldn’t the Pikemen be on the outside of the square so that can be included in the battle?